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Drones Strike · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast along with my partners Brian Siegel and
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  Jonathan Talley. I am Curtis Wilson in this
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  episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the
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  Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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  Your friendly neighborhood pharmacy, 301 S Main St.
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  Blacksburg, VA Boys. It's tough for me to say because
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  we've been working on this one for a while to have.
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  This episode? Yeah, for a bit, man.
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  For at least since last spring. In some ways, last spring.
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  In some ways, last spring. But.
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  I don't want to waste any time because we got a lot of
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  questions to ask him. He is a busy young man, an all
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  academic young man. Shout out Kyron making that
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  list, man, but bring him on. I guess tonight your quarterback
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  one Virginia Tech Okies. Kyron.
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  Drones. Kyron, how are you this evening?
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  I'm good. How about y'all?
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  Doing good, man. Doing good.
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  He won. There it is.
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  You funny, Tyler. You, Tyler said it.
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  Tyler said it. He did say it, man.
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  He ain't even lie. Well, Kyra, man, you got to be a
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  you got to be a bad man to to even get number one.
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  Do y'all understand what kind of bullseye puts on you when you
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  get that number one? They ain't talking about what
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  you had in the depth chart when you wear that number one.
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  Hey, you're the dude. That's you the man.
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  So I'm just saying. Go ahead, Curtis.
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  Go ahead, Curtis. Well Kyron, you are the man
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  right now and man, we've got a lot of stuff we want to ask.
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  And again, we appreciate you taking your time.
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  I'm going to throw some up here real quick.
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  That's right, QB one in the house with us and let's just
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  start straight out how winter workouts going for you so far.
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  And we saw yesterday y'all started Hunger Games.
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  How's that going for you as well?
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  Winter workout's been fine before hunger drill started.
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  It was just lifting and running. So that's been like just the
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  normal lifting and running. And then hunger drill started
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  Tuesdays every Tuesday and Thursday.
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  So we back at it tomorrow. But the first day it was, it was
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  good. It wasn't up to coach
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  prostanders, but it was good. It's just a bunch of
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  competition. One on ones, you trying to get a
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  win every time you go it's they tally up the win.
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  So you know, you get the bragging rights every time when
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  you see that. So it's just a good day.
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  Good morning. The competition.
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  You know, having been a coach at one point, there's no way coach
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  is going to let day one be a good day.
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  He he going to have to give you something to grow on him.
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  Yeah, he wasn't really happy on day one, so you got to make that
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  Day 2 the better. That's awesome.
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  That's awesome. Yeah.
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  I mean. Go ahead.
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  How cold do we get in that Beamer barn?
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  Hey, it it it's different. Is we still waiting on the
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  heater? Hopefully we get that by spring
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  ball, so we ain't got to deal with that, but it's way coated
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  in the indoor than it is outside, I can tell.
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  You. Yeah, I hurt.
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  No, no, wait a minute. The coaches aren't sneaking on.
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  Y'all the heaters aren't ready to go.
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  They just ain't cranking them up to give y'all a little harder
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  time in there, are they? I I don't think anybody wouldn't
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  just be coding that. I like hearing that.
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  Yeah, you got you got to have something to to fight, right?
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  They got to make it cold. So you got something to fight.
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  All right, let's let's flip into some football real quick.
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  You know, season started last year, you know, started in the
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  fall. You were #2 on the depth chart.
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  But you kept working, kept your confidence up, got an
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  opportunity. What did you do personally to
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  kind of keep that confidence high during the season when you
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  weren't named the start of this start 2023?
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  I just believed in myself. Basically all I can do.
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  I started sometimes I went to one of our little therapists to
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  like get myself going through just the fall camp.
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  But that was before the decision happened.
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  And I just believed in myself knowing that all I got to do is
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  work hard and my time is going to come and I just believe in
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  God's journey for me. And I knew my time was going to
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  come at some point in the season.
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  I didn't know when it was going to come, but I know when my
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  number was called, I wasn't going to look back.
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  And that's right. That's what happened.
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  Yeah, just know that everybody on this podcast had you at QB 1
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  coming out of spring and and stayed that path the whole way
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  man. So I'm I'm I'm glad you stuck
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  with it and when you got your chance to shine you did big
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  things. I.
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  Appreciate you. Now, another thing I'll say real
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  quick. Go ahead.
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  We were all three in the house when you did get that
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  opportunity at the end of the Purdue game, man.
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  And the way you zip the ball and tally go away.
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  I know you're going. I know you want to talk about
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  that run. Yeah, no man.
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  I mean it. Shoot, he did it.
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  He know what it is. I mean we sitting in there we
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  don't went through a monsoon you know we don't been fighting the
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  elements as well as y'all that snuck down to the sideline.
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  I'm. I think I could have reached out
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  and touch y'all I'm like you know I was put up at the top
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  when it started. So when we get in now I'm like,
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  hey, they got to give my boy a chance Just give them a chance
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  just give them an opportunity. And then I have been hearing all
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  of the, you know, that's the whole another time he ain't
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  ready, he can't throw this and that.
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  You get in, you complete the pass to to the tight end across
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  the middle. Oh, he can throw a little bit.
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  Then you get the run where you break free again.
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  Offense had been moving. You break free, hit the
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  sidelines, he said. No, I don't want to go out of
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  bounds. We got a cornerback.
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  We got a cornerback up here. Let me go ahead and see.
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  Let me go ahead and see how tough he is.
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  Lord just showed him how. How'd that make you feel?
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  I was. It was.
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  It was a good feeling, but I was definitely trying to get out of
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  bounds. He said he was in the way.
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  I was springing straight towards out of bounds though.
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  He just got me last minute, so I had to do something like when I
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  run, I don't want to ever get delivered to hit.
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  So if I know I'm going to get hit, I'm going to deliver it
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  first. Yeah, yeah, I understand.
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  What we loved about that is fans, man.
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  And watching you and being in the, you know, being in the
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  stadium and even feeling it, you know, it wasn't just that you
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  know, you delivered the hit. It was the mentality that we've
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  been missing on this team for a while.
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  It was you know we've been the we've been the nail for a long
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  time and I ain't going to say a long time, but it's been some
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  years before we had that attitude of we can go out and we
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  can deliver those hits. And you know, it wasn't just
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  what you did physically when you, you know what I'm saying,
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  you came with the impact. It was, I think it was Tucker
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  Holloway on the sideline with you like you got up and you kind
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  of start going about your business and you can see him
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  gain some confidence as well. So you know just that mentality
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  man was cool to watch play out. But I mean it kind of take us to
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  our next question watching you do stuff like that and you know
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  even in the spring game when we were in the house they doing
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  this two hand touch thing. You know, you know you get
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  somebody to break free and come and tap you on the back and I'm
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  like that ain't going to take him down.
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  So I guess the question would be like how how many times was you
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  begging them to take that non contact off so they can really
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  see what you can do in practice you?
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  Guys, Coach Pry, ask them all the time.
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  The defense asked me. They they don't want me live
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  because I be talking trash knowing like when I'm working
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  like that's not going to be a tackle and they swear it is.
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  But I hate the two hand touch because sometimes Pride caught a
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  whistle too fast just because you get too close to me.
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  But yeah, I don't like it at all.
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  Sometimes I wish I was just live like before I was QV one right
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  now like everybody know what it is.
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  So if you think you made that tackle, then you made that
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  tackle, but. Protect that man now.
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  We Hey, you want two jerkers now?
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  We needed. We needed you out of it at
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  first, but you want two of them. Everybody knows what it is now.
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  It doesn't matter anymore. Guy, I just love the mentality.
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  As soon as they touch you, I'm sure it's immediately, you know,
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  that ain't a tackle. You know that's not a tackle.
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  You know, I'm not down right here.
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  Come on now. Do you ever just take the ball
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  and move it up like 8 yards and be like coach?
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  He might have brought me down here.
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  He didn't bring me back back here.
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  I'd be tied where I argue with Pride, but most of the time he
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  argue with Pride coach Marr. But most of the time they agree
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  with me, like sometimes they agree, like he know that's not a
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  tackle, but. Like we know.
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  It is what it is. It is.
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  It is all. Right, let's do this, man.
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  What a what a finish to the season.
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  Y'all. Blow the doors off the
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  Cavaliers, Get the Commonwealth Cup, keep it home.
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  Go up to Annapolis where I attended to the Military Bowl.
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  Great performance there in a monsoon of and a monsoon up
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  there. But then between that game and
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  the bowl game, we start seeing the Twitter messages, guys
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  coming back, you know, Jennings coming back, you know your
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  running backs coming back, more wide receivers coming back.
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  And you know we start seeing this and it's like they're
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  taking the step, guys are staying, guys aren't leaving.
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  And what does that say not only about those players, but the
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  coaching staff? And then we won't know.
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  You know, how much of A role did you have in that process?
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  You know how many conversations with, you know, guys like Ollie
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  Jennings, guys like Jay Lane and saying, you know, look what we
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  did, you know, starting here to the end of the season.
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  For them guys to come back at first is to start off with the
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  guys they just know. It's like a brotherhood coming
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  back and they know like we have a chance to be special.
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  Like, like you said, our whole offense came back.
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  So we have a chance to be special to coaches.
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  That mean just they really love our, they really love the
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  coaches. I love the coaches.
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  Everybody love Coach Pride. He like the coolest coach we can
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  meet. But that just says a lot about
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  him and what he the mentality that he brings to the team and
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  what he's trying to build. But my impact with Ali and the
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  rest of the guys, like, I'm real close with the people I
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  transferred with just because we, like, got a group chat and
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  all. But Ali, like, I'm the closer
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  with him because, like, that's basically my roommate.
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  Like we live by ourselves, but we live right next door to each
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  other. But Ali just telling him to come
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  back knowing like he got hurt in the second game.
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  And I know he came to Virginia Tech for a reason.
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  He could have went to the league, but he wanted to prove
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  that he could do it on the biggest stage.
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  And then Jay Lane, Quan Bayshaw, just them coming back, just to
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  be able to do the same thing, do it again.
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  And then like the playoffs, get into 12 teams.
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  You make that playoff, The more you win, the more coaches going
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  to look at you, Coaches look at you.
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  That's a better opportunity for you to get to the league, get to
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  where you want to be. So we get that going.
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  We do. We do.
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  We know we're capable of get to winning games, get to be in that
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  offense that we want to be in there and it's just better looks
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  for everybody. That's I love hearing that.
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  That's awesome. That's that's awesome to hear.
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  Love hearing you kind of stepping up with a leadership
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  role from that perspective and getting guys on board and
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  saying, all right, we got some unfinished business and the
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  better, the better we come back and do it next year, the more
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  that that kind of raises everybody's ship for for the
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  future. Right.
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  Yeah, it's basically a win, win situation for everybody.
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  Virginia Tech win games, you get seen, you get to the goal, you
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  want to be in the league and that's where everybody want to
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  go in college football. So it's a win win situation.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  Poor Tally. Hold on, Tally, real quick.
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  But before before Tally asked this question, we just got to
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  let you know we see them out there hollering at you.
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  I think that's your mom. I know that's your dad right
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  there. So they are they are watching
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  you live tonight. Got to do that.
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  Your your dad's been following us for a while, man.
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  So we we appreciate that Tally. Floor is yours, my friend.
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  Kevin My God, this drones how y'all doing.
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  But yeah, man, so I know they're getting a little technical,
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  asking you some some questions about the team and stuff, and I
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  love that, man. I love the mentality that you
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  that you have being a leader. But I got to, you know, I got to
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  ask the the, the, the fun questions.
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  I think I was the first person. I don't like patting myself on
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  the back too much, but whenever we was watching the game and
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  after the game, I'm like that's the play of the season.
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  When I see you, you make the long touchdown pass against Pitt
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  and it may be like the first one of the game and you running down
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  the field the whole way. I'm talking about all three
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  levels, lineman, linebackers, DVS and you saying something.
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  You ain't got to tell me exactly what you're saying.
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  But I'm just asking kind of what should we go to when something
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  like that happened and we doing a little trash talking like what
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  what, what we need to say Because I'm trying to, you know,
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  I'm going to go back and play a little bit of touch football.
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  So I want to know what I need to say on the field.
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  I ain't going to lie, that's always been me like in the game,
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  just I've always the game just always brings talking out of me.
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  I don't really don't be knowing what I'd be saying.
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  But I know what I said to the D line in that time just because
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  something happened before the game where like he followed me
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  on Instagram before the game and basically just liked some
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  pictures and I just told him to ever do that again.
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  Just like I don't know what you're doing it for because I'm
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  not scared. Like, yeah, it might be whatever
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  start it was, but you ain't going to scare me just by
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  following me. But just being in the game, like
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  people say I might be quiet, which I am kind of quiet off the
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  field, but during the game I I know I've been talking the most
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  out of everybody on any team I've been on.
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  So the game that's. Crazy.
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  That's crazy. But I like it.
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  So this this ain't even on script.
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  I'm going to ask you something, too, to see.
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  I'm an old guy now, so I'm 38. So when I was playing football
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  back in the early 2000s and 2003, like I listen to a lot of
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  Texas music, but it was like screw music.
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  Slim Thug, you know, Mike Jones, Swisher, House TomTom, Fat
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  Bastard, all of them. What kind of music?
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  Like if I want to, if I want to hear some good Texas music right
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  now, who I need to listen to right now.
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  Right now, I'll probably say this dude called Big Ex to plug
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  he out of Dallas. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I know who big now ain't that old Kyra, man.
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  I I mean, I got oh. Really.
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  This is like that many Texas people.
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  It's just a big ex to plug. He definitely one of them, but
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  growing up. Yeah.
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  All the screw. Like that's all my dad listened
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  to growing up. So that's his.
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  That's his go to. Bug.
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  Bug. Right now for sure.
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  That's what's up. That's what's up.
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  So we're going to pivot it back to football here a little bit.
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  You know, we we've already mentioned we talked to your pops
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  over the holidays, talked about the relationship forward with
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  Coach Bowen. You know, right when the
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  transfer portal opened last year, how did that relationship
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  play into your role committing to Virginia Tech, and how have
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  you kind of taken over as a leader based on that offense and
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  your relationship with Bowen? The relationship started like
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  basically when he hit me up in the portal and then first day
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  the portal opened, he flew to Waco, had lunch with me and then
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  I was just like, it was a good moment for like a coach to do
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  that. Like the first day of Portal
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  open and that was his main priority.
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  Like he wanted to see me. And then ever since I had lunch
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  with him, it was just like an instant connection.
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  He asked all the right questions, I asked him all the
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  right questions and he gave me straight up answers.
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  That's not, that's all I want from a coach.
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  Just being my second time doing the recruiting process.
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  Like I already know like what what coaches be saying just to
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  get you there. So I didn't want to hear that.
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  And then just what when he told me what he wanted me to do and
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  his offense, like he his vision for me, it just grew me.
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  Like it grew up on me. Like where I wanted to come
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  visit Virginia Tech and then on a visit like, I knew that
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  solidified, especially when they played inner Sandman and they
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  showed me the video because I ain't never seen nothing like
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  that coming from Baylor. Like the atmosphere don't get
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  like that. And I just love playing there.
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  And in my leadership role, I just knew I had to grow.
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  I knew I was a good like leader, like lead by example.
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  I knew I had to grow vocally. So it's just been gradually
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  growing ever since then, especially when I first got my
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  first starting and every week my leadership it grew and then now
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  it's just it's at its peak right now.
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  But I still got a ways to go. All right, I'm going to, I'm
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  going to ask. I'm going to pivot a little bit
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  way. I'm going to ask a fun question,
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  Tally. All right, let's go back.
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  Let's go back. Game one.
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  ODU you you've seen the entrance.
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  You've heard them play it the first time walking from Merriman
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  as you walking behind the North End zone around through the
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  tunnel. What's that feeling like?
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  Because when y'all walking back there, the chance back and
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  forth, the place is starting to rock.
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  What's that feeling like? And then maybe go to the pit
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  game, because when you did first start and you were that QB 1
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  stepping out, what's that feeling like in that tunnel?
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  Yeah, the ODU game, it was cool. But it's like a different
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  feeling when you know like you going out there to start.
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  So like, I know warming up in the game, the the Pit game, I
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  know warming up. Like, I was just waiting to see
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  that Jumbotron where they announced like who QB One is,
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  and then my face pop up and then I smile when that happened and
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  then going back out the tunnel hearing that inner Sandman.
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  When you know you the starter. It's a different feeling.
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  Like, I wouldn't say, I would say it's loud, but like, I kind
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  of like zone everything out. Like I run out, just look at all
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  the stands, like every game is sold out and you can tell like
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  there's no seat empty in there. But it's a crazy feeling.
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  It's a great atmosphere and I enjoy the fans and I'm glad they
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  show out every weekend. Let me ask this since we're
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  doing fun questions. Now I'm going to get one in
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  here. You, you mentioned the
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  atmosphere at Baylor. What?
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  What? What's more crazy, a home
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  playoff game at Shadow Creek or a home game at Baylor?
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  Because I know, I know. I know how crazy they get about
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  high school football down there in Texas.
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  Playoff game at Shadow Creek with it was it was crazy.
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  Yeah, I can imagine it was different.
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  Especially like we went to State and everybody travel to the
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  state game. It's basically a home game.
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  So it's it's special. Texas high school football is
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  special. Yeah, no, we don't watch the
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  What is We don't watch the What's My Friday Night Lights.
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  Yeah, them folks crazy down now. If you're a little bit older,
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  you watch Varsity Blues too so. And I will throw this in for the
• 19:29
  record too. Kyrie, you ain't got to say
• 19:31
  much. I'll say it for you, everybody
• 19:33
  was watching that damn camera when they because we, hey these
• 19:37
  hokey fans was on edge and when they was like QB one Kyron
• 19:40
  drones, somebody had took a video of it and that place went
• 19:44
  crazy. I'm talking crazy.
• 19:46
  No, hey, no disrespect to nobody else but motherfuckers was
• 19:50
  sitting on the edge of their seats like who they what they
• 19:53
  fit to say, you know what I'm saying?
• 19:55
  We need to know what they fit to say.
• 19:56
  When they heard that? When they heard Kyron drones.
• 19:58
  Hey, we was ready to rock then. I was at home.
• 20:02
  I already knew what it was. I felt good.
• 20:05
  Yeah, I've seen the video. My teammates be getting on me,
• 20:08
  telling me when they my video, my name popped up my chance
• 20:12
  almost be as loud as Coach Pride.
• 20:14
  So that's good. You deserve it.
• 20:16
  You work for it. I appreciate the fans for just
• 20:19
  being there, congratulating me for that.
• 20:23
  Yeah, we we appreciate you giving us the, the feeling that
• 20:27
  we get back when you know these guys in here were you know
• 20:31
  17/18/1920 that the feeling of those teams that we had back
• 20:35
  then like watching you out there, it's that very same
• 20:38
  feeling. So we appreciate that about you.
• 20:40
  You took us back. Man, you you really did what
• 20:44
  Y'all did. The back half of the season took
• 20:46
  these guys back. I'm 40, bronze 39, tally's 38.
• 20:50
  So you do the math. Victoria Tyrod Brian Randall I
• 20:55
  mean you I'm sure you see those names all the time in in in the
• 20:58
  sound of that it you took us back last year and.
• 21:01
  I mean, you know. We went to games like when we
• 21:05
  were younger. I mean, we were wild, we were
• 21:06
  crazy, we did stupid stuff. I mean, let's let's you know
• 21:10
  there's things we've done, but but when you have that feeling
• 21:12
  and the brain comes back, it's like this is the way it was,
• 21:15
  this is the way it was, this is the way it should be.
• 21:18
  And to see you guys, you leading the way with that crew there is
• 21:22
  great. Brian Shelton is our 4th host.
• 21:26
  He is on unfortunately on a trip to right now and he cannot join
• 21:30
  us. But he got with Brian yesterday
• 21:32
  and he's got a little question about the offense he wants to
• 21:34
  ask you about. So let's bring that up for
• 21:37
  Kyron. So Sheldon get his question
• 21:38
  answered. So, Kyron.
• 21:41
  Obviously the RPO is a huge element of Tyler Bowen's
• 21:43
  offense. I wanted to ask how do you feel
• 21:46
  you progress in terms of being able to make those those reads
• 21:50
  on the read option, the RPO just making those pre and post snap
• 21:54
  reads to sort of execute the offense?
• 21:55
  How much do you feel like you progressed throughout the course
• 21:57
  of the season with those? I feel like RPOS really came
• 22:02
  easy to me, just because that's kind of like the same offense I
• 22:05
  ran in high school. So RPOS has been nothing.
• 22:09
  It's just knowing like who to read and you can't be wrong,
• 22:13
  like you got to, you got to always be right.
• 22:16
  If the person you read and take the runaway, you got a pass and
• 22:19
  they take, if you doing reads where either I run or they run
• 22:23
  or the running back runs, it's you can't be wrong during the
• 22:25
  RPO. So that's why it's so hard to
• 22:27
  defend just learning from and then Coach Bowen's perspective,
• 22:32
  the way he teaches it, just him being gone from going to the
• 22:36
  league, doing it at Penn State, he always brings different
• 22:38
  elements, different styles of learning and teaching.
• 22:42
  And then just getting it from him is just it expands your
• 22:47
  knowledge on not just going based off just one person, just
• 22:50
  seeing like the whole defense, the whole shell unfold and then
• 22:53
  just knowing where to go with the football let.
• 22:55
  Me piggyback off that a little bit real quick.
• 22:57
  Because one of the things that happened at the kind of
• 22:59
  beginning of last offseason is that, you know, you came in, you
• 23:03
  were, you were in winter workouts and all of a sudden,
• 23:06
  you know Coach Bowen slides into the quarterback.
• 23:09
  Coach. You know, when when all the
• 23:12
  shuffling was made with the coaches, what was that like for
• 23:14
  you? And was that kind of seamless
• 23:16
  because you know Coach Bowen was your guy to begin with.
• 23:19
  He he was kind of that that that big reason why you committed to
• 23:22
  begin with. So what was that like for you?
• 23:25
  I. Was I was glad that happened?
• 23:28
  Not. I was glad that coach left and
• 23:31
  went to Cincinnati. That's a big thing for him.
• 23:33
  But I was glad top coach Bowen made that move to be the OC.
• 23:37
  And then from being the OC to the quarterback coach to just, I
• 23:41
  feel like that's how it should be where the OC is the
• 23:44
  quarterback coach because he wants to you to like understand
• 23:47
  the offense, how he sees it. So it's basically like he wants
• 23:50
  you to be another coach on the field.
• 23:52
  So just him doing that, I feel like that's what really brought
• 23:55
  this offense together, just him being in the room and then just
• 23:59
  us getting that perspective where he sees the offense going
• 24:02
  and as just us understanding from him.
• 24:06
  What's, what's? What's Tyler, What's Coach Bowen
• 24:08
  like? Like, what's his, what's like
• 24:10
  the sense of humor? Is he dry?
• 24:12
  Is he just outlandish? Is he, You know, is he quiet?
• 24:16
  I mean, because he's an offensive lineman, because we
• 24:18
  see the pictures, like when we see the pictures of him out on
• 24:21
  recruiting trips, most of the time he's he's head and
• 24:25
  shoulders above everybody else. So when we're like when they're
• 24:27
  recruiting offensive lineman, is an offensive lineman as big as
• 24:30
  he is, it's like, oh, that's a big kid.
• 24:32
  But what's he like? Yeah he a real big dude but
• 24:36
  cause boring funny. He he he he'll he not quiet at
• 24:40
  all he wild with what he say. He say a lot of out out of
• 24:44
  pocket stuff just out of pocket and just he'll say anything
• 24:49
  anywhere and out of just you wouldn't expect the stuff he
• 24:52
  says but he a funny dude and he real fun to be around and that's
• 24:57
  how I wouldn't want any other coach like that.
• 24:59
  I don't want to. I don't want to be with any
• 25:01
  boring coach that don't talk, don't really interact with his
• 25:05
  players. But he tried to interact with
• 25:07
  everybody he sees and that's just a big thing.
• 25:09
  Just for him just to be a coach that really, like, loves his
• 25:13
  players, interact with his players and then just be that
• 25:16
  funny coach that always just make somebody laugh every day.
• 25:21
  That's what's up. That's what's up.
• 25:23
  So to clarify I can say it, Kyron probably can't.
• 25:26
  When I was playing, when I was playing ball, we had a coach
• 25:29
  that he would start like individual drill with some kind
• 25:32
  of outlandish question. He would say something like for
• 25:36
  a billion dollars, would you go to Neverland and and sleep in
• 25:38
  the same bed as Michael Jackson? Like, you know, just stuff like
• 25:42
  that. And I'm like, how much a bill?
• 25:47
  Shoot. Hey.
• 25:48
  I believe I can fight Mike off if I need to, but I'm going for
• 25:51
  that bill. But anyway, Kyra, we going to
• 25:53
  go, we going to kind of go to something different besides
• 25:56
  football, you know, Like I said, we met your pops.
• 25:59
  I didn't know your mom until, you know, she started tuning in
• 26:03
  and I kind of met her through your through your pops.
• 26:05
  I think she was hopping on, hopping on the podcast in the
• 26:08
  back. And we learned a little bit
• 26:10
  about your family and how athletic they are, man.
• 26:13
  You got a brother that was down at Florida State, a sister
• 26:16
  that's running track. We know your pops are still
• 26:18
  coaching, and I didn't know your mom ran track as well, right?
• 26:21
  Yeah. She ran track, but her main
• 26:24
  thing was softball. Softball.
• 26:25
  OK, so we we got another letter. So if I had to, if I had $100
• 26:30
  and we had to, we had a the family reunion, the cookout out
• 26:35
  of out of everybody in your family, who's the most athletic?
• 26:39
  Oh man, he said it too quick. He said.
• 26:45
  No question. Kevin, you got to get it, man.
• 26:48
  He said it too quick. He didn't get nobody, no room to
• 26:50
  live. He he didn't even hype anybody
• 26:53
  else up like, hey, you can he does this well.
• 26:55
  She does this well, but it's still big my mom got.
• 26:59
  Stories of how she was I got to see it my dad got to say stories
• 27:04
  I got to see it D lineman. So I really don't like I can't
• 27:10
  say he more athletic than me my brother O lineman.
• 27:13
  I don't. I can't say he more athletic
• 27:15
  than so you. Got everybody?
• 27:17
  What about your sister? She running, right?
• 27:19
  Nah, she threw. So oh, OK.
• 27:23
  So throwing. Is not really.
• 27:24
  I mean, it's just throwing oh. OK, hold on, hold on.
• 27:28
  Hold on. OK, before, before you answer
• 27:30
  this question, let me just go ahead because Mama's out here.
• 27:34
  She says she's next. Does Mama.
• 27:37
  Win the silver medal of the Drones Family Olympics or is it
• 27:40
  somebody else? Remember, she's.
• 27:42
  I'm gonna. I'm gonna put it back up here so
• 27:43
  you can see. I want you.
• 27:44
  Don't ask when. You go back home, I'm.
• 27:45
  I'm gonna go. It's a trap.
• 27:49
  She might. She might be.
• 27:51
  There she might. We'll tell.
• 27:53
  You that you smart man. By the way, just if you're
• 27:56
  wondering, Missus drones played the hot corner and in the hole
• 28:00
  there shortstop. Nice.
• 28:01
  That's. What's?
• 28:03
  Up there we. Go there we.
• 28:05
  Go what up? Can I ask question sister?
• 28:07
  Does she throw shot foot or hammer or disk?
• 28:10
  She throw shot. In disk got this OK.
• 28:12
  Yeah, I'm. Surprised.
• 28:14
  They're watching right now. She, she playing right now.
• 28:16
  She got a basketball game right now.
• 28:20
  Yeah, I don't know. You so you you the more you got
• 28:22
  one eye on the. Game one eye on the but the
• 28:24
  more. You talking, you giving us so
• 28:25
  much stuff than everybody else doing Kyra?
• 28:27
  I don't know, man, because she playing basketball and throwing,
• 28:30
  she might give you buckets. I was on.
• 28:34
  Varsity basketball Before I was on varsity football.
• 28:36
  OK, my bad, OK. Kelly said.
• 28:40
  I will take a seat, then hang on, hold on, Wait A. 2nd just so
• 28:43
  you know. Yep, they at the game watching
• 28:46
  and they watching you all here with us and we love that's.
• 28:49
  Love right there, Jerome's family.
• 28:50
  Out in Texas, Brian, I know we get near the end.
• 28:53
  We know Kyron, we know you've got, we know you got to be up
• 28:57
  early tomorrow. So we got just a couple more fun
• 28:59
  questions to ask here before we drop it.
• 29:02
  Yeah, I mean, we got. To go to any time we get a
• 29:05
  player, we get a coach on here, we got to know what's your go to
• 29:07
  food spot in the bird. Go to a lot of people say.
• 29:13
  I would say PKS, PKS. Yeah, we go.
• 29:17
  We go to PKS a lot and it's either like PKS or Kabuki you
• 29:22
  you own. Them cheetah wings, yeah.
• 29:24
  They own them good. I just told my dad said next
• 29:28
  time he open, you got to try. He never had it before.
• 29:30
  But yeah, that was good right there.
• 29:32
  And then Kevin? Tripping.
• 29:33
  I thought all black folks had lemon pepper wings with mile on
• 29:36
  it. I don't think he.
• 29:38
  Know what That's what cheetah wings are.
• 29:39
  He just heard. Cheetah wings, he just heard.
• 29:41
  Yeah, Coach Cheetah. Coach Cheetah just threw his
• 29:43
  name on something but we going to let him have that there.
• 29:45
  We will let him call that Cheetah wings.
• 29:47
  But hey, that's that's a that's a staple right there.
• 29:50
  Yeah. It definitely is.
• 29:52
  A staple. So Kyron, just real quick before
• 29:54
  you before we let you get out of here, what time do you have to
• 29:57
  get up in the morning? Because obviously, I mean, are
• 29:59
  you living off campus, we assume, Yeah, it's like. 8
• 30:04
  minutes away. All right, what time?
• 30:05
  You got to be up in the morning to get I get up at. 4:45.
• 30:11
  I haven't seen. That in a minute my dog wants to
• 30:14
  be up at. 445 man, kudos to you man.
• 30:17
  Tuesdays and Thursday. Though I get about 4:45.
• 30:19
  OK, Tuesday. Thursday.
• 30:21
  Cigla. Tally, I've got anything else
• 30:23
  before we wrap it up with this young man.
• 30:25
  I'm just going. To say I appreciate the time,
• 30:27
  man, it's been, it's been a pleasure and looking forward to
• 30:29
  seeing what you guys have for us, you know, come spring and
• 30:32
  fall this year. Yeah, it was fun.
• 30:33
  I. Appreciate y'all having me
• 30:35
  definitely. Man, we appreciate you coming
• 30:36
  through again, man. Big appreciation for you talking
• 30:39
  to me about my son, your attention to detail, man,
• 30:42
  Everything that you're doing with the team on and off the
• 30:45
  field, us as fans, it's it's wonderful to see.
• 30:49
  And I mean the grades, all of that.
• 30:52
  Keep doing it, man. Just keep doing what you're
• 30:54
  doing. That's I appreciate it.
• 30:57
  Yes, Sir. You have a good night.
• 30:59
  I appreciate. Having you, man, take care of
• 31:00
  yourself. I know Brian will see you in
• 31:03
  spring. Tally might see you in spring.
• 31:04
  I'm trying to see you in the spring.
• 31:05
  So you take care of yourself. Keep doing what you're doing.
• 31:08
  Keep your head up. Because man, your future is so
• 31:12
  bright ahead. And we, we, we appreciate you
• 31:14
  taking 30 minutes out of your day because we know you were a
• 31:17
  busy young man. Yeah, that's all I love.
• 31:19
  I appreciate all of you. Thank you, Sir.
• 31:21
  Appreciate you. Thank.
• 31:23
  You man. Awesome.
• 31:29
  Boys, that's pretty good, man. Sure, we can hit it right there.
• 31:31
  That's a good night. We all cut it.
• 31:35
  Here we're going to all get up at 4:45 and we going to go.
• 31:38
  I'm going to sit outside and and call Brian and see if he's
• 31:41
  working out. He's doing all the game.
• 31:45
  Listen, the dog wakes me up about 4:45 at least three days a
• 31:48
  week. So I'm doing it and I try to
• 31:50
  trudge back to bed. But I mean, y'all he He chatted
• 31:54
  with us a few minutes beforehand, and he did ask
• 31:56
  directly about Tally Sun. If y'all don't get Tally Sun
• 31:59
  guys like I mean. He is an.
• 32:02
  Outstanding young man. You can tell it.
• 32:03
  You can tell it by how he speaks.
• 32:07
  He very thorough, very thoughtful.
• 32:10
  He's funny. He's funny.
• 32:12
  I mean, he's one of those you feel like you could just sit and
• 32:15
  talk with him at a bar or at the field about anything.
• 32:19
  And a lot of guys aren't like that.
• 32:21
  And you can tell he's very genuine.
• 32:23
  Young man. Miss Miss Drones.
• 32:26
  Mr. Drones. I know y'all are out there
• 32:28
  watching tonight. Y'all raised a very good young
• 32:30
  man in his shows in every way. Boys, awesome young man.
• 32:36
  We got a lot. More to unload?
• 32:39
  Yeah, we do. We got a lot to.
• 32:40
  Unload in this. So let's hit it up because
• 32:44
  basketball season's going on and well Saturday the Hokies had one
• 32:50
  of those games that make you want to throw things and
• 32:54
  Sheldon's not with us. But we asked Sheldon some
• 32:56
  questions and Sheldon had some things he want to broke down.
• 32:59
  Brian and him got together for a few minutes yesterday And Brian,
• 33:02
  let's kick it off because we did talk about that loss or Shelton
• 33:05
  did talk about that loss and where we stand.
• 33:07
  So let's hit that up first about.
• 33:10
  Do we even have a? Chance to make the tournament.
• 33:13
  Here we go. So after the.
• 33:15
  Loss to Miami Without winning the ACC Tournament, what are the
• 33:19
  chances the Hokies get into March Madness this year?
• 33:23
  Unfortunately, the chances are not looking great right now.
• 33:26
  So we have There's a stats website called Bart Torvick that
• 33:30
  does NCAA tournament simulators. So you run a bunch of
• 33:34
  simulations and it spits out a percentage chance to make the
• 33:36
  tournament. Right now the Hokies have a
• 33:38
  23.3% chance to make the tournament as I last checked it,
• 33:43
  and that includes 4% chance for an automatic bid if they win, if
• 33:46
  they win the ACC tournament and a 19% chance for an at large
• 33:49
  bid. So I think for me you're looking
• 33:51
  more at that at large bid because I think it's it's, you
• 33:53
  know, pretty unlikely that you'd win the ACC, you know, a second
• 33:55
  time in three years. But you know, bottom line, A1 in
• 33:59
  five chance right now for the Hokies.
• 34:01
  They certainly have the work cut out for them in this final
• 34:02
  stretch. I mean.
• 34:09
  I think before it was something what 3334% chance before we lost
• 34:15
  that game and that game was frustrating Saturday, that game
• 34:19
  was frustrating Saturday afternoon to watch because I
• 34:23
  went to a birthday party. We're up 9, I'm keeping we still
• 34:26
  up 9, and me and one of the the dads there just get chatting
• 34:29
  about something else and I ain't paying attention to my phone
• 34:31
  talk 10 minutes, I go look back at the phone and they got four.
• 34:34
  It's like. This team is.
• 34:40
  I mean it. It's it's frustrating to watch.
• 34:43
  I know Sheldon had probably a little bit more to say on that
• 34:45
  Miami game, too. So we can run that, Let him
• 34:48
  finish that thing out. Yeah, let's finish.
• 34:50
  It out and with that. Loss to Miami, it looks like
• 34:52
  that percentage dropped pretty sharply.
• 34:54
  I think they, if I remember correctly seeing something about
• 34:57
  right at 5050 ahead of that game.
• 35:00
  So it seems like that was a kind of a a, a winner stay home type
• 35:04
  situation. For the Hokies, it was, yes.
• 35:07
  And again, it depends on the model you look at.
• 35:08
  Some of them were a little bit more bullish.
• 35:10
  Some of them were not so rosy on Hokies chances.
• 35:12
  I mean I saw some at 33% before the Miami game.
• 35:15
  But Needless to say, I mean that was a rogue game against a quad
• 35:18
  one team and the fact that the Hokies LED slip play was pretty
• 35:22
  pretty, you know, pretty devastating.
• 35:24
  I mean that that game had a huge delta in terms of you know, what
• 35:27
  it would have done for them had they had they won the game
• 35:29
  versus you know, them losing it in terms of their their
• 35:31
  probability to make the tournament so big missed
• 35:33
  opportunity for sure. That says it all.
• 35:38
  Man, I mean you know when you when you when you look at the
• 35:41
  the chances there that was a game that.
• 35:44
  For all intents and. Purposes was kind of a must win
• 35:46
  if the Hokies wanted to get into the tournament without having to
• 35:49
  run the table in the ACC Tournament.
• 35:52
  Yeah, I. Mean.
• 35:55
  It's frustrating. Frustrating to talk about and
• 35:57
  watch and think about when you start digging into it a little
• 36:01
  bit and looking at the game. I mean, handling pressure is
• 36:05
  usually tough when you play the teams that are physical, it's
• 36:09
  pressuring you coming down the floor.
• 36:10
  It's tough. We're turning it over.
• 36:13
  We're living in, dying by the three, you know, and we just
• 36:16
  don't have enough guys that can create their own shot in
• 36:20
  basketball. That's the name of the game, you
• 36:22
  know? That's what kind of worried me
• 36:23
  before the season when you have smaller guards, no disrespect to
• 36:29
  Medula and and Couture and any of those guys that's playing,
• 36:34
  but you know, you play against some bigger guards that some of
• 36:37
  the ACC has to offer and just getting physical on you and it's
• 36:41
  hard to create your shot. That's why when you, when you
• 36:44
  get some of these guys that have left, like, you know, Rodney
• 36:48
  Rice and Buchanan and Darius Maddux, some of these, you know,
• 36:53
  bigger guards like it, it's frustrating because those guys
• 36:56
  you feel like could help in those situations where you where
• 37:00
  you need somebody that can create a shot or even just shoot
• 37:03
  over somebody because they're taller.
• 37:05
  So that's what it feels like kind of watching it to me.
• 37:09
  Yeah. And.
• 37:09
  Now Sheldon went in, You and Brian.
• 37:11
  Brian, you and Sheldon went in a little deeper because I I want
• 37:15
  to know because as I'm watching the game and sometimes y'all
• 37:18
  know as well as I do, we get pulled away times whether it be
• 37:22
  a kids hoops game or birthday parties or hey run to the store
• 37:26
  need to get something and you're trying to follow it on your
• 37:28
  phone. Can I ask Sheldon?
• 37:30
  I wanted Sheldon to talk about what metric do we need to watch?
• 37:33
  Because when I do get pulled away to go to a birthday party
• 37:36
  on Saturday when we playing at 2:00.
• 37:38
  What? What's?
• 37:39
  What data point do I need to watch them?
• 37:41
  I see it going a certain direction.
• 37:42
  What is it? So let's let's hear what he's
• 37:44
  found out through his research. Yeah, and this Hokies.
• 37:47
  Team has kind of been a little, a little up and down.
• 37:50
  They've had some games where they've looked looked better.
• 37:52
  They've had some games where they just can't really put out
• 37:54
  all the pieces together. Is there a metric that's kind of
• 37:58
  proving to be most predictive for a Hokies win or a Hokies
• 38:01
  loss? Well, I mean.
• 38:03
  Generally speaking in basketball, obviously shooting
• 38:05
  is the name of the game, right. So you got to hit a, you got to
• 38:08
  hit a good field goal percentage if you want to win.
• 38:10
  And you know you can look at effective field goal percentage,
• 38:12
  which is obviously a very big predictor of who wins the game.
• 38:14
  I mean that's probably the single biggest predictor on a
• 38:16
  night by night basis. But I thought that looking at
• 38:19
  turnover percentage, turnovers in general for the Hokies have
• 38:21
  been sort of a bugaboo this year and that seems to me to be the
• 38:25
  biggest predictor of whether or not they win the game.
• 38:28
  So when Tech has a a turnover percentage lower than 17%, they
• 38:33
  are 10 and three and what it is over 17% there are three and
• 38:37
  six. So to me that kind of speaks to
• 38:39
  their issues. If they limit the turnovers to,
• 38:42
  you know, say 1213 less than that, that's about, you know,
• 38:45
  that translates to about 17% and a 70 possession game.
• 38:49
  That's probably the ideal spot. But they just, they just haven't
• 38:51
  been really taking care of the ball in these past few weeks in
• 38:54
  ACC play and that's really been the biggest thing hurting them.
• 38:57
  They're like in a crunch. Time of of the Miami game and
• 38:59
  you have kind of three or four possessions back-to-back where
• 39:02
  there's turnovers and you go from a nine point lead to a, you
• 39:05
  know, three or four point deficit pretty quick.
• 39:08
  That's really been the thing that's been been killing,
• 39:10
  killing them, you say? Right.
• 39:12
  And The funny thing is they've actually shot the lights out of
• 39:14
  the ball. You know, if if you look at
• 39:16
  their shooting sets and ACC play, I mean, they're pretty
• 39:18
  much the best in the conference. But the problem is, you know,
• 39:20
  they're turning the ball over and they're not getting
• 39:22
  offensive rebounds. So those two things, you know,
• 39:24
  they're they're losing that. They're losing out in those
• 39:27
  extra possessions. And so you know you can shoot
• 39:29
  the ball as well as you can, but if you're not, if you're not
• 39:32
  getting those extra possessions and the other team is, it's not,
• 39:35
  it's not going to go well for you.
• 39:40
  Name of the game? Turnovers.
• 39:42
  But it's. Wild.
• 39:44
  But it's wild, though. Could you all imagine what this
• 39:46
  team would be like if they weren't the best shooting team
• 39:48
  in the ACC? You imagine that.
• 39:52
  What, like, nine wins, maybe? Yeah.
• 39:54
  Conversely, if you know they didn't turn the ball over at
• 39:56
  such a rate, you know where would they be as well as they're
• 39:59
  shooting. So it's like you know if you if
• 40:02
  you if you have one other guy out there that can handle the
• 40:05
  ball a little bit more. Lean on them at times when you
• 40:09
  know you're getting that pressure.
• 40:11
  A guy like Padula does not have to kind of be a ball stopping
• 40:16
  point guard at times when the scoring just isn't quite coming
• 40:20
  as as as at the rate that we need to because we're not
• 40:22
  getting those X possessions with offensive rebounds, we're losing
• 40:25
  X possessions with them getting offensive rebounds.
• 40:30
  Yep. So we hit one last piece here
• 40:32
  with Shell because we kind of wanted to know who's the pivot
• 40:35
  player, who's the player? So we now we now we know, right,
• 40:40
  if we start looking at a 70 possession game, if we're aiming
• 40:43
  towards trying to do the math here, what, 141415 turnovers in
• 40:48
  a 70 possession game, we ain't going to win the game.
• 40:52
  But we taught and wanted Sheldon to say who's the player that
• 40:56
  effectively if they have a game, we have a chance to win.
• 40:59
  So he hit that up too, All right.
• 41:02
  Let's switch it over to this. Is there a player on this team
• 41:06
  that's kind of that pivot type player where if they play kind
• 41:08
  of above their average, it's more than likely gonna lead to a
• 41:11
  Hokies win? Or if they're below that
• 41:12
  average, go ahead and put AL on the board.
• 41:16
  Yeah. So for this question, I
• 41:17
  initially thought about Sean Padula, just because he's been
• 41:19
  such a high usage guy for the Hokies.
• 41:21
  I mean if you look at the statistics, there are very few
• 41:25
  teams in the country that are more reliant on their point
• 41:28
  guard than the Hokies are and Pedulas had to, you know, bear a
• 41:31
  really huge load this season. But with that being said,
• 41:33
  looking at the stats, I actually think Glenn Kidd is a his.
• 41:37
  His performance in the games is a much bigger indicator of
• 41:40
  whether or not the Hokies win or lose.
• 41:41
  So just looking at you know his his offensive rating here I mean
• 41:44
  he was really good against my against Miami in that game a few
• 41:47
  weeks ago you know going a for a from the field and he's always
• 41:50
  had a good field goal percentage.
• 41:52
  But you know typically you know the the more effective he is and
• 41:54
  and the more shots he takes during a game because he's such
• 41:57
  a good shooter and he takes shots at that fit his game.
• 42:00
  You know that's that's going to help focus win when he's not off
• 42:03
  or excuse me when I shouldn't say he's off and he's not
• 42:06
  hitting shots that's a big that's a really bad sign because
• 42:09
  I think you know he's he's been the presence down low obviously
• 42:13
  and we we when you're not getting production from from
• 42:15
  that five spot in the Mike Young offense and obviously Malaysia
• 42:18
  potee he's not offensive really isn't quite his game.
• 42:20
  That's going to be a problem because now you know you don't
• 42:23
  have the spacing and you got to you know force yourself to shoot
• 42:26
  threes and that hurts you all around.
• 42:27
  So I think Len Kidd is probably the biggest, you know, guy where
• 42:31
  you say as as he goes, so go the Hokies.
• 42:35
  All right, so he's kind of The X Factor with with for this team
• 42:40
  and it makes sense. Because if you all remember what
• 42:42
  the early part of ACC play, he struggled.
• 42:45
  And as did Virginia. Tech struggling out of the gate
• 42:48
  with that back in January, you know, like the loss at Florida
• 42:53
  State, I don't think he had a good game there.
• 42:55
  Definitely the Wake Forest game. I know he struggled down there
• 42:58
  and it's, you know, I mean, you look at what's left on the
• 43:03
  schedule for this team right now.
• 43:05
  I mean they got a they got Notre Dame this weekend.
• 43:09
  If they don't beat Notre Dame, that 20% is going to go to like
• 43:12
  5 because you cannot have that bad a loss.
• 43:15
  Then you got Florida State and North Carolina.
• 43:19
  Virginia. Pitt.
• 43:20
  Syracuse. Wake Forest, Louisville.
• 43:23
  Notre Dame. There's like.
• 43:25
  A. They can't.
• 43:27
  Lose any of the bad ones. They can't lose either Notre
• 43:29
  Dames or Louisville's. It's.
• 43:31
  Almost like they got to just run, right?
• 43:33
  Yeah. For.
• 43:34
  Real. You got to just run if.
• 43:35
  You want if you want to. If you want at large, you got to
• 43:37
  run table. Yep.
• 43:40
  Pretty much. Yeah, I.
• 43:41
  Mean. It's grim.
• 43:43
  It's grim to think about. It's grim to do right now, man.
• 43:45
  Like you got to win it. You got to win the ACC, or like
• 43:48
  you said, pretty much got to run the table.
• 43:50
  They have a better. Chance of running the table than
• 43:52
  they do winning the ACC, yes. But do.
• 43:56
  You know why? It's grim.
• 43:57
  It's because you look and you see there's some talent on this
• 43:59
  team, right? Like you see, like Tal, you
• 44:01
  mentioned it. It is literally one player way.
• 44:04
  If they had, if Rodney Rice was still here or one of those guys
• 44:09
  who transferred, they could get their own shot occasionally.
• 44:14
  I'm not saying like a top 15 team, but I think definitely a
• 44:17
  top 35 team and easily in and that's where it's getting
• 44:21
  frustrating where people leave. You know what, you got the kid
• 44:24
  that went to Mason's playing good Bamasil.
• 44:27
  Bamasil's been all over the place.
• 44:28
  I don't know if he's a good boy because.
• 44:31
  I had kids. Made a cross country journey of
• 44:33
  a college career. But you mentioned Buchanan early
• 44:36
  and you made them Maddox and you know, and even somebody like
• 44:39
  Naheem Allen that that played a pivotal role in Uconn's
• 44:42
  championship last year. He didn't score all the points,
• 44:44
  but he was still a pivotal role so.
• 44:47
  I don't know. I don't.
• 44:49
  Know and I I think the problem. We're looking at is that you
• 44:52
  know? From a.
• 44:54
  Offensive mind perspective and just from an overall coaching
• 44:56
  perspective, I think Mike Young is doing a damn good job.
• 44:59
  I think the problem is that we have had a problem bringing in
• 45:04
  and retaining good talent. And at some?
• 45:08
  Point you know the guys that he brought in when he first got
• 45:11
  here, they jailed really quick in that first year when it
• 45:14
  didn't matter what the number on the left hand side of the the
• 45:17
  win loss was was going to be. You know, everybody knew that
• 45:20
  that was going to be a struggle bust of a season to a point but
• 45:23
  they jailed, you know year two and three.
• 45:27
  You know, you see some action right, with with those guys
• 45:31
  gelling maturing, getting into the back half of their career
• 45:34
  and now we're starting to see with all that attrition and kind
• 45:37
  of that churn of the roster that we're seeing every year, you're
• 45:41
  not getting that cohesive team that we've seen before.
• 45:46
  And I think you know, the right situation is kind of a microcosm
• 45:50
  of that. Bigger picture is that you know
• 45:53
  if if you had one guy like that they could give you those
• 45:56
  minutes that can handle the ball in those key moments that could
• 45:59
  take a three but also get his own shot.
• 46:01
  If you had something like that, you know this team might be, you
• 46:05
  know, 3-4 five wins better and really on the on the inside
• 46:09
  instead of having to scratch and claw just to even have a chance.
• 46:13
  I don't know. My Co host just said Microcosm,
• 46:17
  I think is the word that he used.
• 46:19
  I don't know what the fuck that means, but I do know Mike Young,
• 46:25
  you better go out and you better get some people who can dunk on
• 46:27
  folks. You better go out and you better
• 46:30
  get some people who can jump hide in the other team because
• 46:32
  we just shooting threes and it ain't happened.
• 46:35
  It ain't going to get us what we need to be tally, Tally.
• 46:39
  You've been nice to Mike Young the year you've been with us and
• 46:42
  you said you give him a little grace.
• 46:43
  But I I think the grace is slowly falling off.
• 46:46
  I. Told y'all.
• 46:47
  I mean, him winning the ACC was. Like so I guess it was.
• 46:51
  Big because I I didn't expect it.
• 46:53
  You know, when he first got here, I was on him pretty heavy
• 46:56
  and you know, I said well, I got to give him some time and I got
• 46:59
  to. But you know again, when you got
• 47:03
  a coach like Mike Young, you know you got to have some people
• 47:06
  around you that can recruit and we start getting people in and
• 47:09
  then those coaches start leaving and we start getting players in
• 47:12
  because basketball is much different than football in a lot
• 47:15
  of ways. When we talking, recruiting when
• 47:17
  we're talking. Retaining.
• 47:19
  People, I mean you can really go out and get one player in in
• 47:25
  basketball and the whole team changes like it it it 11 player
• 47:32
  can make that team a deep run NCAA team, you know?
• 47:40
  But if. You can't.
• 47:41
  If you are not getting those people or if they're not getting
• 47:44
  chances or you're not, you know, able to retain them, shit you,
• 47:48
  you're not going, you're not going to go deep, you know,
• 47:51
  because I was a, hey man, I don't care about the regular
• 47:52
  season, I don't care about this. We got to get to the tournament.
• 47:55
  We got to win a game in the tournament, you know, things
• 47:57
  like that is what I was saying. So I gave them a little bit of a
• 48:00
  pass. And then looking at this season,
• 48:02
  it's been, it's been kind of, you know, getting back to it and
• 48:05
  I've been kind of quiet, but it's a it's starting to creep
• 48:08
  back up, man. Basketball is a different beast,
• 48:10
  man. We got to get some, we got to
• 48:12
  get some athletic players. Not saying the guys on the team
• 48:14
  aren't athletic, but we're getting a lot of shooters.
• 48:18
  We're getting a lot of, you know, three and D guys.
• 48:21
  No, man, you got to get some fucking animals.
• 48:24
  You got to get some people who are certified bucket getters.
• 48:29
  That's what we need and and if we.
• 48:31
  Had just been able to, I mean I know that's a different
• 48:33
  situation but we talked, we've already talked about Rodney
• 48:36
  Rice. If you get Rodney Rice and
• 48:37
  you're able to you know get somebody like Basili back on
• 48:40
  this team and that that's a that's a true you know top four,
• 48:46
  top three ACC team compared to like you know we're we're kind
• 48:51
  of in that bottom half of the top ten right now and and you
• 48:55
  know scratching scratching to go further back.
• 48:58
  Even to think. About, Yeah, even to think about
• 49:00
  like Basili, like he came in, you know, had a good year and
• 49:04
  then he's never heard of again. Like he said, oh fuck it, I'm
• 49:07
  going to Italy or wherever he went.
• 49:08
  You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know the money
• 49:11
  situations or you know how they handle it, what Nil looks like
• 49:15
  in in in basketball. But they got to change some
• 49:18
  things if they want to start making, making these runs
• 49:20
  because the old school game of any sport is gone.
• 49:24
  Yeah, you just can't play the game like that.
• 49:26
  You can't coach the game like that.
• 49:28
  It's much different. So again, I'm still giving Mike
• 49:32
  Young a little grace because of what he's done, but it's getting
• 49:36
  shot, It's getting real shot and.
• 49:39
  Especially now. Football's doing good.
• 49:41
  You want everybody do good, like everybody's do good.
• 49:43
  I will say this. Though I will say this on tape,
• 49:45
  I'll fucking sacrifice basketball all day tomorrow.
• 49:50
  If we can goddamn have a good football team, Give me a good
• 49:54
  football team every year. I ain't saying shit about
• 49:56
  basketball. I didn't let me get one of them
• 49:58
  baseball jerseys because baseball been killed.
• 50:00
  Them fucking baseball jerseys is nice.
• 50:02
  So give me a baseball jersey. Give me jerseys.
• 50:05
  A good football. Team.
• 50:06
  Shit, we good. There we go.
• 50:08
  But I say I don't care about y'all basketball.
• 50:09
  Y'all got to do better too. He loves you.
• 50:12
  Yeah. Different child.
• 50:15
  Different child. All right, let's roll over this,
• 50:17
  boys. Let's get back to football for a
• 50:18
  little while the rest of the way.
• 50:20
  Believe it or not, y'all know what today was.
• 50:23
  What's the day? What's?
• 50:24
  The best. Don't nobody even care.
• 50:26
  About it no more, nobody don't care anymore.
• 50:28
  About it because everything happened December, I remember.
• 50:30
  Forgot all about. It 10 years ago.
• 50:32
  I used to take off half a day to watch what was going on real.
• 50:36
  That's a little. Joke.
• 50:37
  You just take. Off.
• 50:38
  Had a had a computer up had a TV on ESP on your phone.
• 50:42
  Now you trying to watch. You trying to watch the the,
• 50:45
  the, the, the, the Texas or the the facts come in.
• 50:50
  I don't even care no more. We're doing this in December.
• 50:53
  Yeah, it's all December. Now they should move back to
• 50:56
  February though. That's my opinion.
• 50:57
  But let's let's talk about a few things that happened.
• 50:59
  The 1st that happened is we got a preferred walk on offer.
• 51:02
  Usually that ain't a big deal, is it not?
• 51:05
  Usually. Not usually, but.
• 51:07
  Then we got the name. His name is Lamar, goes by LJ
• 51:11
  Booker. He is a six, 290 LB wide
• 51:14
  receiver right here in the RVA, down at Collegiate, about 3
• 51:17
  miles from my house here. He is a.
• 51:20
  Top 30 player in Virginia. He's a top 1000 player.
• 51:24
  His composite is dead on the air at 87.
• 51:29
  He's got offers, Duke, Rutgers. He had some interest from Penn
• 51:33
  State. He had some interest from
• 51:35
  Maryland, North Carolina. Y'all, can we talk?
• 51:39
  Real quick, I I, I hate throwing the old regime under the bus,
• 51:43
  but you know how many people we gave scholarships to outside of
• 51:46
  the top 1000? A lot.
• 51:48
  Everybody. And we got a.
• 51:51
  Preferred Walk on inside the Top, 1000.
• 51:55
  Yeah. Crazy walk on.
• 51:58
  It's crazy. He could have went.
• 52:00
  To a number of schools and got on a scholarship and and and you
• 52:04
  we said it a few weeks ago somebody said it.
• 52:07
  You talk about winning the state of Virginia.
• 52:10
  This is how you do it right here.
• 52:13
  Not even a. Joke about it.
• 52:16
  So I know. Glad to have him.
• 52:19
  I guess he'll be joining in the spring.
• 52:20
  But while to see LJ Booker, I don't think Brian had a chance
• 52:25
  to get some tape on him because we've both been busy at work.
• 52:28
  But maybe try to look at it something here, just because I
• 52:31
  always. I always refer to Chris.
• 52:33
  Chris is in the in the comments and of course y'all know, you
• 52:37
  know, that's Brody's dad, Keelan Adams dad.
• 52:41
  Chris said he can play, which I've seen a little tape on him
• 52:43
  because we were recruiting him during the season.
• 52:46
  And if Chris says he can play him being there in Virginia and
• 52:49
  he's watching wide receivers and he watches a lot of tape, I'll
• 52:52
  take his word for it. We.
• 52:54
  Know we know he's watching wide receiver tape.
• 52:58
  By the way, Robbie going to throw a joke on here at you
• 53:01
  Tally say you need to get a wrestling singlet but.
• 53:04
  You know what actually we going to do a little talking on some
• 53:07
  wrestling, man. I got, I got somebody we're
• 53:09
  going to bring on. We're going to do a little
• 53:10
  talking on some wrestling because I don't know about
• 53:11
  wrestling, but I want to know and I want us to win.
• 53:14
  If we can get some wins in wrestling, I'll take it.
• 53:16
  So we going to save that for another time, but we going to
• 53:19
  talk a little wrestling. That's a teaser.
• 53:21
  That's a teaser about a month from now.
• 53:23
  Pay attention. Pay.
• 53:24
  Attention. All right, so let's go real
• 53:26
  quick. Where did we end up as a class?
• 53:28
  So I mean the numbers don't look great 45 and 57.
• 53:32
  Can I go on a tangent? Right, quick, before you even
• 53:34
  talk numbers. Go on, let me say this right
• 53:36
  quick. Hold on.
• 53:38
  I want to put my glasses on. Oh, man.
• 53:40
  That's why. I talk he getting serious here
• 53:41
  we're. Going to have Mateo on here a
• 53:44
  little bit later on, right? Oh yeah, not a month.
• 53:47
  Yeah, we love you, Mateo. A little less than a month.
• 53:49
  From now, we love you, Mateo. But close your ears.
• 53:52
  That fucking ranking system man has got to go.
• 53:55
  It's on my fucking nerves. It's nothing, but they lie it.
• 53:59
  It's I I went to a basketball game the other day and we got a
• 54:04
  kid that was here in school, went to the high school my son
• 54:08
  will go to and his dad, he he he plays down at UAB now.
• 54:12
  He's a sophomore at UAB and he probably was the best kid.
• 54:17
  He was probably the best kid in Huntsville when he graduated 2
• 54:20
  years ago. But he definitely was, you know,
• 54:22
  one of the top players in in Alabama and the ranking systems
• 54:27
  man is just so screwed up. And he talked to me, he gave me
• 54:31
  like maybe a 30 minute rundown of how you get your kid ranked
• 54:36
  the highest and it's all bullshit.
• 54:38
  It's just going to the right camp and kissing the right ass
• 54:43
  and fucking rubbing the right feet, man.
• 54:45
  If a kid can play, fucking let him play.
• 54:48
  That is so much bull crap to take somebody star or you know,
• 54:53
  oh he he, he he ain't as tall as this guy.
• 54:55
  He ain't as big as this or his competition.
• 54:57
  Like if he's if you setting records and you playing in
• 55:01
  decent competition. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:03
  And I understand you got to do some camps, but it's all about
• 55:06
  just gaining us more money and more subscriptions and more of
• 55:10
  this instead of actually watching what these kids do.
• 55:13
  And again we say it all the time.
• 55:16
  Somebody commits somewhere, they messing with some rankings
• 55:20
  either way it goes. You commit to Alabama, you're
• 55:23
  90, you commit to Virginia Tech, What are you Brian?
• 55:26
  What number are you 87? 80. 8687, they're gonna move
• 55:30
  this up a little bit. I mean, dude, it it's just
• 55:33
  ridiculous, man, when you start thinking about how they do these
• 55:36
  rankings. And we'll come back to it maybe
• 55:39
  next week because we got some stuff in the works and we want
• 55:43
  to let it play out. Yeah, we do.
• 55:44
  But if some of these kids, I'm like, how does he have no
• 55:47
  ranking? How does he have that ranking?
• 55:49
  He's better than this guy. He beat this guy or he locked it
• 55:53
  anyway. Curtis, go ahead.
• 55:55
  We got. You know we we've been talking
• 55:58
  about that for a while now and I mean Robbie, we had him on one
• 56:02
  time. We talked to him about all the
• 56:03
  camps and you know when when he was doing evaluations at the
• 56:07
  camps and things like that. And you know he backed up a lot
• 56:10
  of what you just said in a lot of ways.
• 56:14
  So it it's funny circling back like that.
• 56:23
  Oh, that was good, Jim. That was good, so.
• 56:25
  So where we are? As far as like nationally goes,
• 56:29
  if you look at just the the raw number data, we didn't do good
• 56:32
  45 and 57, like 10th in the ACC. But that ain't the important
• 56:38
  part right now because the important part is where we rank
• 56:43
  both nationally and in the ACC. When it comes to the average of
• 56:47
  the player, we only took sixteen players.
• 56:50
  There are not a lot of teams in the country that took that
• 56:54
  little of a player this year. Most of them are 20.
• 56:57
  To 22, that's that's that's your average 20.
• 56:59
  Two, we're we're way down at 16. So you start looking at the
• 57:02
  actual average is where it gets key.
• 57:05
  Y'all know we rank average player wise because we got some
• 57:07
  players that got some balls because I think tally had some
• 57:10
  influence somehow on 2. Players.
• 57:12
  Got. Build up to four stars, guys.
• 57:17
  Next thing we know. We don't talking.
• 57:18
  Next thing we know four guys get bumped up.
• 57:20
  Y'all, we are 28th in the country as far as average player
• 57:24
  goes, 4th in the ACC over the 88, which that's Bronze magic
• 57:29
  number he's told y'all for the last four years.
• 57:31
  He's been preaching that for years, though.
• 57:34
  He's been preaching that for years.
• 57:36
  So you know, you sit. Here, and you wonder and and
• 57:39
  y'all know we got Sheldon. Sheldon's got all sorts of
• 57:42
  things. He looks at things that interest
• 57:44
  him and pique him. But I wanted to know, all right,
• 57:48
  where are the playoff teams at? Like, where are their rankings?
• 57:50
  Don't think Sheldon got the rankings, like the number
• 57:53
  average. But he did get some interesting
• 57:56
  information both on the teams that played for the national
• 57:58
  title and then a run of the new year six teams, excluding G5 S
• 58:02
  Brian press that because this is about 5 minutes.
• 58:06
  Everybody hold with us. We'll come back because this is
• 58:10
  some good, this is some good stuff right here to.
• 58:15
  Some of the ranks for the teams that are making the playoffs
• 58:17
  consistently that are making those New Year's 6 bowls.
• 58:19
  So let's focus first on Washington and Michigan.
• 58:24
  Sheldon, I know you've kind of crunched the numbers there.
• 58:26
  What are the average player rankings per 247 and kind of
• 58:29
  what is that telling you? Sure.
• 58:31
  So I went back the last four years and took the average
• 58:34
  player ranking for each team's class in a season.
• 58:39
  And so for Michigan, it averaged out to about 15th.
• 58:42
  That's typically where they've been and and that's not far off
• 58:44
  from their composite ranking. Also for Washington, it was 26.
• 58:48
  So it's sort of a tale of two different teams.
• 58:50
  I think for Michigan, you know, one of the things that I've
• 58:53
  noticed over the past four or five years is that recruiting
• 58:55
  rankings aren't quite as predictive of success as they
• 58:58
  used to be. And the biggest reason in my
• 59:00
  opinion is a combination of of course the the COVID year, so
• 59:03
  the fifth year from COVID and how it impacted high school
• 59:06
  evaluations as well as players coming up using that extra year
• 59:10
  and the transfer portal because guys are just moving all over
• 59:13
  the place and you don't have time to develop guys like you
• 59:15
  like you used to. So so you know because of that,
• 59:19
  I think what we've seen over the past couple years is that a lot
• 59:21
  of teams like Michigan, TCU, Washington who maybe don't have
• 59:25
  elite recruiting rankings find themselves playing for a
• 59:27
  national title. You know, I think Michigan and
• 59:29
  and and John Harbor staff has done a great job of developing
• 59:32
  players and and hitting on those evaluations for Washington.
• 59:35
  I think they were a team that was you know not to not to take
• 59:38
  away from their from their overall offensive defense.
• 59:40
  But I think they were a team that was very reliant on Michael
• 59:42
  Pennix at quarterback. And we look at some of the
• 59:45
  advanced metrics, they weren't quite as high on the Huskies
• 59:47
  this year just because they won a ton of close games and
• 59:49
  generally speaking winning close games at that rate is not
• 59:51
  sustainable. But the bottom line is, you know
• 59:55
  these are two great examples of where good player development
• 1:00:00
  will get you. So you know, I think, I think
• 1:00:03
  looking at Michigan and Washington, it is.
• 1:00:05
  It is sort of a case of, you know, just because you're not
• 1:00:08
  you don't recruit in the top 10 or top 15 doesn't necessarily
• 1:00:11
  mean you can't play for a natural title because these
• 1:00:13
  those two teams absolutely earned it and they they did a
• 1:00:16
  great job of developing players. So in the case of.
• 1:00:19
  Washington Kind of a combination of being a really good
• 1:00:22
  development program and hitting the hitting it at the park with
• 1:00:25
  the most important player on the field.
• 1:00:28
  Yes, and. I think.
• 1:00:28
  That's the one thing that makes evaluating recruiting rankings
• 1:00:31
  difficult is because the the quarterback position as we all
• 1:00:34
  know has such an outsize influence in the game.
• 1:00:37
  So it really, I think it's less a case of maybe, you know,
• 1:00:40
  getting you know, 85 scholarship guys out of nowhere and more so
• 1:00:44
  just you know, you you you recruit 3 stars, you got to
• 1:00:47
  develop them, but you have to hit on that right quarterback.
• 1:00:49
  If you don't have the quarterback who can who can make
• 1:00:51
  all those throws, make all those plays, you know you're not,
• 1:00:53
  you're not going to be at that level.
• 1:00:54
  That's just a reality. And and obviously, you know,
• 1:00:56
  Washington benefited usually from having a a stud arm like
• 1:00:59
  Michael Pennix. Yeah, it seems like for.
• 1:01:03
  Michigan, it seems more like that they were recruiting kind
• 1:01:05
  of in that higher average range that you see with some of the
• 1:01:09
  other blue chip programs. But they have a hit rate that's
• 1:01:13
  kind of out of the park. They're doing doing well
• 1:01:15
  developmentally, but if they're bringing in four and five star
• 1:01:18
  caliber players you're you're seeing those players get on the
• 1:01:21
  field quickly and and make an impact pretty quick.
• 1:01:24
  Yes, exactly. And I think honestly, if you ask
• 1:01:27
  Michigan fans, they might say that, you know, the the star
• 1:01:30
  rankings were not an accurate reflection of how talented they
• 1:01:32
  were. And I think you can make a
• 1:01:33
  pretty good argument for that just based on, you know, they're
• 1:01:35
  playing on the field. But I think Michigan is sort of
• 1:01:38
  a team like Clemson. Those, those title teams under
• 1:01:40
  Dabo, Dabo, Sweeney, where they're sort of on that, on that
• 1:01:44
  cusp of where typically you expect national title teams to
• 1:01:46
  be kind of on that lower edge where you sort of need to get
• 1:01:48
  into that, you know, cool kids club so to speak.
• 1:01:51
  But you know, bottom line Michigan, they've just done a
• 1:01:54
  great job of evaluating high school prospects and and
• 1:01:57
  bringing them up. And you know, I was listening to
• 1:01:59
  to Joel Class Podcast that day, he was talking about the
• 1:02:01
  importance of their strength coach as well.
• 1:02:03
  So all those factors kind of lead into Michigan's success and
• 1:02:05
  I think there was, there was certainly nothing fluky about
• 1:02:07
  it. Very good, very good.
• 1:02:11
  And now let's let's take a look a little broader here.
• 1:02:13
  Let's look at average player rankings for kind of those New
• 1:02:15
  Year's Six teams over kind of the last three or five years.
• 1:02:19
  Are are those kind of landing in that 10 to 15 range of the the
• 1:02:26
  Michigan's or are they lower end with with the Washington's or
• 1:02:30
  the TCU's or are most of those kind of landing in that top
• 1:02:33
  eight spot where you see those perennial powerhouses from the
• 1:02:36
  blue blood programs. So.
• 1:02:38
  It's a little bit closer to being blue blood.
• 1:02:40
  For this analysis, I decided to exclude group of five teams just
• 1:02:45
  because it kind of, you know, messes with the numbers a little
• 1:02:47
  bit. And obviously group of five
• 1:02:48
  teams are entitled to one of those spots in the new Year 6.
• 1:02:50
  But that doesn't necessarily mean they are, you know, always
• 1:02:53
  as talented as as those Power Five teams.
• 1:02:55
  So when I average out the player rankings for those teams that
• 1:02:57
  made the new Year 6 bowls, I went back over the last five
• 1:02:59
  years and the average ranking was around 17th.
• 1:03:02
  And I was pretty consistent across different metrics, which
• 1:03:05
  you can look at, but 17th is pretty much the standard.
• 1:03:08
  And you know, obviously there's going to be some outliers like
• 1:03:11
  you know UVA in 2019 when they went to the Orange Bowl, they
• 1:03:16
  won the Coastal Division, but they were a five loss team.
• 1:03:19
  So obviously that can throw rich into things because you know
• 1:03:22
  there are certain conferences where you're guaranteed those
• 1:03:24
  ball tie insurance. And so if you may be luck into
• 1:03:26
  playing in a bad division or you win a bunch of close games, you
• 1:03:30
  can find yourself in one of those spots even if you weren't,
• 1:03:32
  you know, necessarily a quote UN quote one of the most talented
• 1:03:35
  teams you can sort of find yourself in there.
• 1:03:37
  But generally speaking, yes, I would say that you want to be in
• 1:03:40
  that top 15 to 20 range is ideal for making those New York 6
• 1:03:43
  balls. Because you know, the reality is
• 1:03:44
  you got to win, you know, 10-11 games in a powerpuff conference
• 1:03:48
  to get there and that's that's a lot more difficult than people,
• 1:03:51
  people realize. Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  And so you're saying about 17 is kind of the average there across
• 1:03:58
  all those teams. You know looking at it that that
• 1:04:03
  kind of trends with kind of what we expected I think because like
• 1:04:06
  as you said, you've got those teams that are on the lower end
• 1:04:10
  that have those four or five losses that you know they're
• 1:04:13
  playing in that game. But when we look at the College
• 1:04:16
  Football Playoff, with the exception of kind of
• 1:04:19
  Washington's or ATCU here or there, you kind of get the usual
• 1:04:23
  suspects every year and that that's going to definitely trend
• 1:04:26
  in the favor of the blue bloods for sure.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah. And one thing I would stress is
• 1:04:31
  that I think people sometimes conflate talent at the very top
• 1:04:35
  with sort of being applicable to all the other teams.
• 1:04:38
  For instance, obviously teams like Alabama, Georgia, you know,
• 1:04:43
  Florida State, Clemson, whoever, they recruit very well every
• 1:04:46
  single year and they're able to, you know, replace those players
• 1:04:49
  because they recruit so well and sustain success for teams in the
• 1:04:52
  middle or even in that upper tier.
• 1:04:54
  I would say once you get outside the top ten it becomes much more
• 1:04:57
  of a question of you know can you evaluate guys, I don't think
• 1:05:00
  there's any necessarily a specific barometer for for team
• 1:05:04
  success in that sense once you sort of get into that more
• 1:05:06
  middle tier range. But clearly you know recruiting
• 1:05:10
  the top ten, top 12 level is going to help you a lot.
• 1:05:12
  And I think for you know for an average program like Virginia
• 1:05:15
  Tech, you know it's a question of you know can we recruit maybe
• 1:05:18
  in that 25 to 30 range and with good player development we can
• 1:05:23
  sort of be in you know that that sort of which might say standard
• 1:05:27
  deviation of you know just being right on that outside edge of of
• 1:05:30
  where you would expect a new year six team to be based on
• 1:05:32
  recruiting rankings. And I think it's you know it's
• 1:05:36
  it's a case study and just how how numbers can sometimes be
• 1:05:39
  flawed. But generally speaking when you
• 1:05:40
  average it out, generally you know the the recruiting ranks
• 1:05:43
  are going to win out in the end and and that that you know 17 to
• 1:05:46
  20 range is ideal for for most teams there.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah, and that. Would you know you talk about
• 1:05:51
  the Hokies there if you pull in, you know you you bump your
• 1:05:54
  recruiting up a little bit as we're starting to see those
• 1:05:58
  trends come into play and you get the right player at the
• 1:06:03
  right position when we're talking about a quarterback.
• 1:06:05
  And you get a right combination of that development that that's
• 1:06:09
  when you kind of get into that conversation.
• 1:06:11
  And I I think you know collectively here we're, we're
• 1:06:14
  hoping that you know maybe that right combination is is going to
• 1:06:18
  hit out for us this year heading into 2024 with the returning
• 1:06:23
  talent that we have. I know we've been looking out
• 1:06:26
  there and we've seen the percentage of returning talent
• 1:06:30
  for the Hokies is number one in the nation right now.
• 1:06:32
  So that that bodes well I feel like for having that continuity,
• 1:06:37
  having the development that you're talking about and
• 1:06:39
  hopefully having the the right pieces at the key positions to
• 1:06:42
  kind of put us over the top. Yep.
• 1:06:44
  And the biggest thing is, you know, it's important sometimes
• 1:06:47
  not to get too, too caught up in the in the star rankings.
• 1:06:50
  The biggest indicator of how good a team is going to be in
• 1:06:53
  one year is how good they were the previous season.
• 1:06:55
  If you look at Tech, they had a great end of last season, they
• 1:06:58
  won seven games. But you know, you look at their,
• 1:07:01
  their results against conference teams, I mean they just blew the
• 1:07:04
  competition out of the water. And I think that that bodes very
• 1:07:06
  well for you know how they're going to be next season with a
• 1:07:08
  pretty similar strength of schedule overall.
• 1:07:10
  And you combine that of course with the returning production,
• 1:07:12
  number one in the country according to Bill Connolly of
• 1:07:14
  ESPNI. Think it's going to be, it's
• 1:07:16
  going to, it's going to set up for really good teams.
• 1:07:17
  So in this case, I don't think that, you know Tech fans should
• 1:07:20
  get too caught up in the recruiting rankings.
• 1:07:22
  I think we, we saw the body of work from the team last year.
• 1:07:25
  We see how many players are returning and those two factors
• 1:07:27
  are the most important ultimately, in determining how
• 1:07:29
  successful they'll be next season.
• 1:07:33
  Good stuff. There from Shelton all the way
• 1:07:35
  across but I but I threw this number out because it's the one
• 1:07:38
  that when when I listened to it earlier today Brian called me at
• 1:07:40
  17. The average team they got in the
• 1:07:43
  new year six is 17 we're. Going.
• 1:07:46
  To 12 teams in the playoff, right?
• 1:07:50
  That's why I asked about the New Year 6, because you look at the
• 1:07:52
  New Year 6 normally you're going to have the best 12 teams are in
• 1:07:56
  those games, 17. We're 28 and you can say what
• 1:08:01
  you want as far as talent index goes, what this staff has done
• 1:08:05
  in the portal both this year and last year, what they've done in
• 1:08:10
  recruiting the last few years. It's.
• 1:08:13
  Trending that way. It's trending that way to that
• 1:08:16
  17 number. And like Kyron said, Kyron said
• 1:08:19
  it just a little while ago here, it's a 12 team playoff.
• 1:08:22
  This year it's a 12 team playoff.
• 1:08:25
  I love the. Players are talking about it,
• 1:08:27
  too. They understand the stakes and
• 1:08:29
  the changes and how that impacts their visibility in this whole
• 1:08:33
  thing, because it's what we've been talking about.
• 1:08:36
  Getting a seat at the table matters.
• 1:08:38
  Getting a seat at the table is going to help teams like
• 1:08:40
  Virginia Tech keep guys at Virginia Tech for longer,
• 1:08:44
  especially when you can get the nil pot, at least in a
• 1:08:47
  competitive range against some of those bigger schools that are
• 1:08:50
  trying to lure them away. So that's where we need to make
• 1:08:54
  our hay, 'cause you you talk about 17, so you're talking
• 1:08:57
  about a plus minus margin of of error there, you know, five one
• 1:09:01
  way, 5 the other. If if you're, you know, just
• 1:09:04
  going off recruiting rankings, getting in the top 25, top 22
• 1:09:08
  puts you right there in that fucking conversation.
• 1:09:14
  And then you also go with go with mean, go with average if
• 1:09:18
  the number one team, there's going to be a team that's
• 1:09:20
  sitting down there in the 30s. That, as I know what, Sheldon
• 1:09:24
  said, find the right combination of player development and
• 1:09:27
  quarterback. There's going to be a team
• 1:09:29
  that's in the 30s rankings that's going to make a run,
• 1:09:32
  that's going to get in the playoffs.
• 1:09:36
  Agreed. Let's hope it's US.
• 1:09:38
  One more quick thing before we go to break, you know, and this
• 1:09:41
  again goes to the competition piece.
• 1:09:44
  We've had nine guys into the portal.
• 1:09:46
  Y'all noticed. None of them have went to FCS
• 1:09:49
  schools. None of them have went to a
• 1:09:51
  lower level of football yet. True.
• 1:09:55
  For the beat. Why are you stepping?
• 1:09:56
  Down. Three went to P Fives, Baquan
• 1:10:00
  Wright Canteen and Dwayne Lofton went to Oklahoma State.
• 1:10:05
  Three team went to P5P4. Now three stayed at the G5
• 1:10:09
  level. We said it a few.
• 1:10:12
  Years ago, about talent, you tally.
• 1:10:15
  You said it here about this time last year.
• 1:10:19
  You've got to. Have.
• 1:10:20
  Talent. You've got to have talent now
• 1:10:23
  when I see who's left. We brought in some really.
• 1:10:26
  Good guys. But we let some guys, we had
• 1:10:29
  some good players leave that could have been role players
• 1:10:32
  that would have us follow this team.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah, and. And you know, when we look at
• 1:10:35
  the guys that left, the guys that left, that landed in P5
• 1:10:38
  were guys that were either starters or in the rotation
• 1:10:42
  enough to get, Yep. Heavy.
• 1:10:44
  Reps get good tape out there, right?
• 1:10:46
  So you had Wright Canteen. Obviously they're starters, or
• 1:10:50
  at least you know, 1A1B at their positions.
• 1:10:54
  And then you had Lofton, that he was.
• 1:11:00
  He. Was in that five or six man wide
• 1:11:01
  receiver rotation for most of the year.
• 1:11:03
  Had some catches so. You know guys that were getting
• 1:11:07
  reps on this team that were starting and rotational caliber
• 1:11:11
  players are being looked at by those Power Five teams as
• 1:11:16
  commodity. Still they're they're we're not
• 1:11:19
  just having to. When we look, when we look at
• 1:11:22
  years past, we had one or two guys that were dudes and then
• 1:11:25
  they got out of town because they were dudes for one reason
• 1:11:28
  or another, right? Whether we talk about hidden
• 1:11:30
  hooker or somebody else, right. But then everybody else you know
• 1:11:34
  ended up finding lower level G5 positions drop down to FCS and
• 1:11:40
  that's not knocking FCS or those players.
• 1:11:43
  But it it definitely speaks to the caliber of player that we
• 1:11:48
  were bringing in after those kind of you know handful of
• 1:11:52
  studs in a in a class and what we're doing now top to bottom,
• 1:11:56
  yeah you it's. It's kind of like the, I mean
• 1:11:58
  the floor has been raised. I mean we've got a, we've got a
• 1:12:03
  preferred walk on that. We talked about earlier that
• 1:12:06
  probably in 19 or 20, whatever year that was, he might have
• 1:12:10
  been the highest ranked guy in that class.
• 1:12:13
  I mean, before the Texas to Vt movement, he would have been.
• 1:12:17
  He would have been. He might have been.
• 1:12:18
  The he might have. Been the highest ranked guy in
• 1:12:20
  that class. So you know the floor has been
• 1:12:22
  raised. And it's kudos to the coaches,
• 1:12:25
  man. It's kudos to the coaches that
• 1:12:27
  can go out and sell what Virginia Tech heels so. 100
• 1:12:31
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• 1:14:19
  Put a good bowl on 24, but soon as that happened just a few days
• 1:14:24
  ago. We get our.
• 1:14:25
  Second commit, not our first. Because Kelton Ryan committed.
• 1:14:30
  I'll get to date. Sometime long time ago.
• 1:14:34
  But we got our first in state in local in Carter Starlet, a 6-7
• 1:14:38
  and a half 315 LB offensive Tackle out of Christiansburg
• 1:14:42
  High School. He is ranked 16th.
• 1:14:45
  In the state of Virginia, he is an 87 per 247.
• 1:14:51
  What a way to? Kick it off, kid.
• 1:14:53
  Right down the street that if you look at it, you saw that
• 1:14:56
  picture. He is one of those guy that
• 1:14:58
  looked a lot bigger than bowling and there ain't many of those.
• 1:15:00
  That happens. I have Brian, did you get a
• 1:15:03
  chance to look at tape tally? Did you get a chance to look at
• 1:15:05
  any tapes since he committed? No, I didn't.
• 1:15:08
  Look at no tape. I just know he's 67300 pounds.
• 1:15:12
  And he's. BMF.
• 1:15:14
  Man, and he's. That, I mean take the lay UPS.
• 1:15:17
  He's that. Close to the He's that close to
• 1:15:19
  campus or you close on that kid, especially for offensive
• 1:15:21
  lineman, can I can I say? Something He was getting a big
• 1:15:24
  push from Duke before the coaching change.
• 1:15:29
  Oh. OK.
• 1:15:31
  Big push. From Duke before the coaching
• 1:15:33
  change, and we know what type of lineman that they were bringing
• 1:15:37
  in to rebuild that program. If he was getting that type of
• 1:15:41
  heat from them, that's somebody you want to watch.
• 1:15:46
  So that that's another good way to start the class off there.
• 1:15:50
  And yeah, and. And and Render has definitely
• 1:15:52
  taken him under his wing. You've seen him posting a lot
• 1:15:54
  too, so get getting him out there on the lake doing all
• 1:15:59
  sorts of fun stuff, so he's been training with.
• 1:16:01
  Him too. So it ain't just been fun stuff.
• 1:16:03
  It ain't just fun. It's still been fun.
• 1:16:05
  But it probably ain't been fun. He's been working.
• 1:16:07
  With him, he's been working with him for a while, so I've seen
• 1:16:11
  some of that stuff. But you can't teach size.
• 1:16:14
  You know you can't teach size. You can't teach speed.
• 1:16:17
  For offensive lineman that is that close to campus?
• 1:16:21
  Yeah, I'll take it. I'll take him, yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Now Matay saying still 66290, Jim, that's still a big yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Hey, Jim. Only today Jim ain't playing,
• 1:16:30
  man. Yeah, Jim, you got to come down
• 1:16:32
  for me. You're going to have Matay mad
• 1:16:34
  at us. You ain't going.
• 1:16:35
  To be mad at us. Matay loves us.
• 1:16:36
  All right, so two other things. I don't know if y'all saw this.
• 1:16:39
  Obviously I'm going to hit the fun, the fun one first.
• 1:16:43
  Y'all see, Jay Ham got hired. I did.
• 1:16:46
  I paid. Attention.
• 1:16:47
  To that I know you did. I.
• 1:16:49
  Got the. Alert.
• 1:16:51
  Did he coaching, Did he coaching?
• 1:16:53
  He. Coached in some game.
• 1:16:55
  He coached in the. He was coaching for your team.
• 1:16:58
  Now he's coaching for my team. No, but.
• 1:17:00
  He's coaching for somebody. He was like, he did All Star
• 1:17:02
  game or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:04
  Yeah. Yeah, he did.
• 1:17:06
  Sorry man, shout out to Jay Ham. I'm sorry you got lumped with
• 1:17:10
  fuckhead clown, but you know. You know, hey.
• 1:17:17
  I'm glad you're out here prospering, my boy.
• 1:17:20
  You know what? It's it's good for him.
• 1:17:21
  I mean he he bare, he he burned a lot of load.
• 1:17:24
  He was put in a position that there's no way he could be a win
• 1:17:27
  and he's turning it around, man. So Brian, you have to keep us
• 1:17:30
  apprised of how the secondary is doing next year.
• 1:17:32
  Oh yeah, Andy. Yeah, and and with him being
• 1:17:36
  with my team, I didn't even have to watch none of like what he
• 1:17:39
  did because our fucking front office was a a mess.
• 1:17:44
  If you did anything good and your name wasn't Derrick Henry,
• 1:17:47
  you were definitely getting traded.
• 1:17:50
  If you did. Anything good?
• 1:17:52
  They was getting rid of you. I was like, what are we doing?
• 1:17:54
  We gave A.J. Brown to the to the Eagles and
• 1:17:57
  gave so on and so forth. So it didn't even matter what we
• 1:18:01
  did. You know it didn't.
• 1:18:03
  I mean, the defense has been solid, but I didn't.
• 1:18:07
  I didn't watch Jay Hamm's, you know, coaching this year.
• 1:18:11
  But again, it's just, I'm glad to see him, all jokes aside, see
• 1:18:15
  him progressing and and continuing his coaching career.
• 1:18:20
  Because that just goes to show you kind of like.
• 1:18:24
  When people talk. About, you know, coaching hires
• 1:18:28
  or you look at when people go home.
• 1:18:31
  Like if your first big job is at home, you got nowhere to go.
• 1:18:35
  You know, like he was kind of doomed from the beginning.
• 1:18:40
  For real. Like, you talk about Shane.
• 1:18:41
  Seriously, when people talk about Shane, that was my knock
• 1:18:44
  on that because of Shane's first job is Virginia Tech and he
• 1:18:49
  fucking flops with us already being where we were.
• 1:18:55
  Where does he go? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:57
  You got nowhere to go. So again, I'm.
• 1:19:00
  I'm. We ain't got to go to for no,
• 1:19:01
  not go birds. But anyway, we.
• 1:19:05
  You. Know that's just what I think
• 1:19:06
  about when it comes to the the, the coaching and oh, he's from
• 1:19:10
  here, he's the coach. Like sometimes you got to spread
• 1:19:12
  your wings somewhere else and and build your name and then go
• 1:19:16
  back where you started. So 100%. 100% All right, the
• 1:19:19
  other. Big coaching news, I'm sure.
• 1:19:21
  Y'all been probably somewhat following was Jeff Haffley left
• 1:19:24
  BC to go to Green Bay to be the defensive coordinator, which
• 1:19:29
  was. I mean, hey, we were in that
• 1:19:31
  situation last year, right? Laden the.
• 1:19:33
  Laden the Laden the late in the game and your head coach leaves.
• 1:19:37
  And right now, and I'm reading this, Bill O'Brien has
• 1:19:42
  interviewed with them. Jeff Monken.
• 1:19:45
  I swear to God they hired Jeff Monken.
• 1:19:47
  I'm going to hate our life. I'm glad we're not going to play
• 1:19:49
  in him Every run. A damn triple option.
• 1:19:52
  Paul, Chris the old Wisconsin head coach.
• 1:19:54
  Troy Calhoun, Air Force head coach and Al Al Washington from
• 1:20:01
  Notre Dame, who's their D line coach.
• 1:20:04
  I do not want Monken. Just because we dealt with Paul
• 1:20:08
  Johnson for all those years, I that that's the only one.
• 1:20:11
  The other ones I don't care about.
• 1:20:12
  I think they are what they are. Y'all.
• 1:20:14
  Got any feelings on that? I'm right with?
• 1:20:17
  You, any anybody but Monken is fine with me.
• 1:20:19
  No triple option. Monkey.
• 1:20:21
  Monkey 8 whoever I don't want to nobody to run.
• 1:20:24
  No triple option up there. Don't don't get anybody to run.
• 1:20:28
  No triple option that we got to play.
• 1:20:30
  But you know, BC is one of those jobs, man, that like that's
• 1:20:33
  always a gritty team and it's always a, you know, a tough game
• 1:20:37
  for most people to play. But it's like, I know it's got
• 1:20:40
  to be hard to just sustain and win there, you know what I'm
• 1:20:43
  saying? So I don't know.
• 1:20:46
  Interesting to see what they'll do.
• 1:20:48
  Yeah, Belichick. Belichick ain't going there.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah, I mean it it's it's got even harder for them I think
• 1:20:56
  since you know when you look at the transfer portal and then I
• 1:20:59
  feel like you know that really put them in a bad spot.
• 1:21:02
  The way recruiting shifted kind of towards late 2000s, early 20
• 1:21:07
  tens put them behind the 8 ball. Before that they were pretty
• 1:21:11
  damn competitive given their stature in in in the recruiting
• 1:21:15
  game, in retaining town and things like that.
• 1:21:18
  But once things started to shift and it became an arms race.
• 1:21:24
  They they've really. Fallen off?
• 1:21:25
  They weren't going to. Win that at all.
• 1:21:27
  All righty. We got one last piece to hit
• 1:21:29
  today because the day after we had our dream schedules that we
• 1:21:34
  put all of them up here. The actual final schedule was
• 1:21:38
  released, date set a couple times set that we know and I
• 1:21:44
  just wanted to talk with them about it.
• 1:21:46
  Tally wasn't here. Tally had things going on last
• 1:21:48
  week with Greg. Glad to have him back this week,
• 1:21:50
  but Brian, pull up that thing. And.
• 1:21:54
  We see it there. We kick off Vanderbilt,
• 1:21:57
  Nashville. Brian's going, Tally's going.
• 1:21:59
  I'm going to try to go. They asked me the other day,
• 1:22:02
  what do you think, Kurt? I'm like, I don't know what I'm
• 1:22:04
  doing next week. August is a long ways away.
• 1:22:09
  Then we got Marshall at home, ODU on the road, Rutgers at
• 1:22:12
  home, Miami, Stanford back-to-back on the road.
• 1:22:14
  B CS A Thursday night Georgia Tech at home late in October to
• 1:22:20
  the Carrier Dome in early November.
• 1:22:24
  Clemson. 11. 9/11, 9, Remember that one by week after that, the
• 1:22:31
  Duke game and the UVA game to wrap the season.
• 1:22:35
  So I'm going to pitch it to you boys.
• 1:22:36
  I'm going to pitch it to Tally first because he won't hear last
• 1:22:39
  week to kind of defend why he had his perfect schedule the way
• 1:22:42
  he had it. But Tally looking at this
• 1:22:44
  schedule, what do you like? What games like you think that's
• 1:22:48
  a good spot. I like where that is and what do
• 1:22:51
  you like first I. Mean the start of the season is
• 1:22:54
  good. I definitely like that
• 1:22:56
  Vanderbilt game. Being the first game for me,
• 1:23:00
  it's two hours away, a little less than two hours away, so I
• 1:23:04
  can be there. But playing the SEC team, a
• 1:23:06
  lower level SEC team, I think it's a good, a good call for us,
• 1:23:10
  a good shot for us to go show what we can do.
• 1:23:12
  We just got to show up and do what we need to do.
• 1:23:15
  And then, you know, you got Marshall, ODU and Rutgers.
• 1:23:21
  So three teams that we played last year that we, I feel we
• 1:23:26
  underperformed in all of those games.
• 1:23:29
  So it's kind of a a revenge tour on those games.
• 1:23:33
  You know what I'm saying? Even though we won the ODU game,
• 1:23:35
  I I don't think we played to our potential.
• 1:23:38
  No, he didn't. So I think that first four games
• 1:23:42
  can give us a big boost moving up and going into the season.
• 1:23:47
  So I like that again. It's going to be fun to watch.
• 1:23:51
  All right. Brian, what?
• 1:23:52
  About you, what do you like? I like that we're getting those
• 1:23:56
  long ass Rd. trips out of the way.
• 1:23:59
  We're going to Miami, going to Stanford, hopefully going to
• 1:24:03
  beat their ass on both cases there.
• 1:24:07
  I like getting big Rd. trips out of the way early in the season.
• 1:24:11
  That way we're kind of as as we hit towards that tail end, we're
• 1:24:14
  sticking close to home. Got a lot of home games on the
• 1:24:16
  back end and the two Rd. trips aren't that bad.
• 1:24:21
  Nope, not at all. Two of the road trips, one of
• 1:24:24
  them is going to be a home game. You already know that with that
• 1:24:27
  Duke game. I I'm with Brian and I preached
• 1:24:30
  this. This was all my perfect
• 1:24:31
  schedule. I actually, you know, I wanted
• 1:24:34
  Stanford early. I wanted Stanford early.
• 1:24:36
  I wanted Miami. I wanted them late, but I wanted
• 1:24:38
  Stanford early. But getting the two longest Rd.
• 1:24:40
  trips out of the way is my biggest.
• 1:24:42
  Like I love, I like that. I love that.
• 1:24:45
  I also love it that we got two vibes this year effectively
• 1:24:48
  because after the Stanford game we don't play the next weekend
• 1:24:51
  and play the next Thursday. So we we we we sort of get that
• 1:24:55
  middle of the season. Take take a look at that after
• 1:24:57
  the Stanford game, we played six games and in the stretch of what
• 1:25:01
  how many days is that going to be?
• 1:25:02
  Brian Like trying to look here. So.
• 1:25:06
  In a. 24 In a 22 day span. We're going to play one game, 22
• 1:25:12
  day span. So we want to talk about y'all.
• 1:25:14
  Both played 6-7 games into a season.
• 1:25:16
  A lot of people are nicked. A lot of people are hurting.
• 1:25:19
  We're going to play one game in 22 days.
• 1:25:22
  Great point to, hey, let's get everybody healthy.
• 1:25:24
  Let's get these things healed up and things like that.
• 1:25:27
  All right, I'm going to go back to Tally again.
• 1:25:31
  Tally, what do you hate on this schedule?
• 1:25:34
  What do you throw your middle finger at and throw things at
• 1:25:36
  the TV? What do you hate on this
• 1:25:38
  schedule? Man, I guess what I hate is, you
• 1:25:42
  know, just even that stretch of that Georgia Tech hold on before
• 1:25:47
  we talk to any of that. Fucking going to Syracuse is
• 1:25:50
  what I definitely hate. I fucking hate that Carrier
• 1:25:52
  Dome. I don't care what kind of team
• 1:25:54
  they got. I don't give a fuck who is the
• 1:25:56
  quarterback. I don't care if they put a
• 1:25:58
  middle school team out there. I fucking hate going there and
• 1:26:01
  playing because it's always some bullshit that happens.
• 1:26:04
  It's always some dumb ass shit that happens.
• 1:26:06
  I fucking hate that. But we want to be a little bit
• 1:26:10
  more technical. That stretch of Georgia Tech,
• 1:26:14
  Syracuse and Clemson and even Duke, you know, group them in
• 1:26:18
  there as well, know they got new coaches and stuff.
• 1:26:20
  But that's just, that's a a lot of like, Nat ass teams that just
• 1:26:26
  fucking get in your ear and fuck with you, you know what I'm
• 1:26:28
  saying? Georgia Tech's one of those
• 1:26:30
  teams and Duke's one of those teams.
• 1:26:32
  And Syracuse, I know we don't know we got.
• 1:26:34
  But we got to go there and I know everybody's going to be
• 1:26:37
  looking forward to that Clemson game.
• 1:26:38
  Just all that kind of smashed in together.
• 1:26:41
  I don't love that Brown. Yep.
• 1:26:47
  I'm I'm right there with you, Tally.
• 1:26:49
  Really. You know I can.
• 1:26:52
  Say that Really. That four-game stretch between
• 1:26:54
  Georgia Tech and Duke with the trip to the Carrier Dome being
• 1:26:59
  the the bitch of it all because you know you hate making that
• 1:27:03
  trip and then having to turn right around and play arguably
• 1:27:08
  the best teaming on your schedule right after that.
• 1:27:12
  So that that that's kind of, that's kind of my my least
• 1:27:14
  favorable match up. The only thing that's kind of
• 1:27:17
  helping us there is that we get that as Curtis was talking about
• 1:27:20
  those days to kind of gear up for that run, right.
• 1:27:22
  So I think that's going to be a saving grace in that period.
• 1:27:27
  But then you know you're going to have to to go on the road at
• 1:27:31
  Syracuse. Never fun fucking visitor to
• 1:27:33
  locker room at the top of the damn stadium.
• 1:27:36
  All sorts of goofy shit. Like if it can happen, it will
• 1:27:39
  happen. It's not quite ODU.
• 1:27:40
  We get stuck in an elevator, but pretty much anything else is on
• 1:27:43
  the table. And then you got Clemson coming
• 1:27:46
  off of that. You know that that's going to be
• 1:27:48
  a big game. Everybody's circling that one
• 1:27:49
  all. Right, so.
• 1:27:51
  It is a resounding majority, super majority win.
• 1:27:57
  I hate playing Syracuse. Hate, hate.
• 1:27:59
  Everybody hates it. Nobody likes it.
• 1:28:01
  I hate it even doubly more that the freaking assholes down in
• 1:28:05
  Charlotte chose to put Clemson the game.
• 1:28:08
  After that the. Game.
• 1:28:10
  After that I'm. An orange lover.
• 1:28:12
  I love orange. That's too much orange.
• 1:28:14
  That's too much orange. We.
• 1:28:15
  Don't need that. Much fucking orange at one time.
• 1:28:17
  My second now I got a two y'all stuck with that.
• 1:28:21
  And even though I. Like going down to Miami and
• 1:28:23
  getting that out of the way early.
• 1:28:24
  I hate that. That is after Rutgers, and I set
• 1:28:27
  it back two weeks ago. I hate.
• 1:28:29
  That's after Rutgers and I hate. It's a short week because y'all
• 1:28:33
  know and I said it, I'll repeat myself again.
• 1:28:35
  She, I know, is going to play very physical.
• 1:28:38
  We're going to come. Out of that game, soar.
• 1:28:42
  And now we got to. Get in a flight, go down to
• 1:28:44
  Miami, so you know it's going to screw up the schedule and
• 1:28:47
  everything for that week. That's my second, but still with
• 1:28:50
  Syracuse. Let's look here, y'all kind of
• 1:28:54
  mentioned it. The hardest stretch.
• 1:28:56
  I think y'all are right. Even though we get a, we do get
• 1:28:59
  a bye week between Clemson and Duke.
• 1:29:02
  That stretch right there, it's like, you know, you know what?
• 1:29:05
  What is it Haynes King did down at Georgia Tech last year.
• 1:29:08
  He's a good football player. He's a good football player.
• 1:29:12
  Got a good coach, too. Yeah, good coach too.
• 1:29:15
  Carrier Dome Dean Clemson in town.
• 1:29:18
  Then you get a bye week and you got to go Natty Duke before the
• 1:29:21
  UVA game. So I agree.
• 1:29:24
  I think that is the hardest stretch of the season.
• 1:29:29
  What game I mean are? You what?
• 1:29:32
  What? What's y'all's opinions?
• 1:29:33
  On the Thursdays night games we on Thursday night.
• 1:29:40
  We on Thursday night, Man, Thursday night is us.
• 1:29:42
  We invented you. Know what I mean?
• 1:29:44
  We invented Thursday night. Let's go fuck somebody up on
• 1:29:47
  Thursday night and quit playing Who we played on Thursday night
• 1:29:50
  this year. Was it Sierra C?
• 1:29:51
  No BC, No last year. Like this past year, Syracuse,
• 1:29:54
  Yeah. Syracuse OK, we fucked them up.
• 1:29:57
  Yeah. Syracuse got fucked in the ass
• 1:29:59
  on Thursday night, so that's a good ass fucking night.
• 1:30:01
  All right, so BC get the league coach.
• 1:30:04
  Your coach just quit on you. No, no, Luke, no last league.
• 1:30:09
  Your coach doesn't quit on you. We ain't going to quit.
• 1:30:12
  We're going to keep pounding. Come on in here Thursday night.
• 1:30:16
  And it's on metaphorically. And literally, yeah, don't.
• 1:30:19
  Worry about that. But to go back kind of to what
• 1:30:21
  Curtis said when he's talking about the stretches, that kind
• 1:30:24
  of, you know, of course the one that I said, it's kind of the
• 1:30:28
  main one. But that stretch where you go
• 1:30:31
  Rutgers, then Miami, then Stanford all the way across the
• 1:30:35
  fucking country and then BC, who knows what they going to come
• 1:30:40
  out in. They might come out in some
• 1:30:42
  fucking blood socks or something.
• 1:30:44
  I don't know, bandanas around their Knicks.
• 1:30:46
  I don't know what they going to come out of here.
• 1:30:48
  So just that little that that is a stretch.
• 1:30:51
  That's not. I'm not loving that either.
• 1:30:54
  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I like.
• 1:30:56
  The opening stretch though you said it tally.
• 1:30:58
  That opening stretch is really good.
• 1:31:00
  See where we are. I like what Chris said here.
• 1:31:04
  That will be a Friday night under the lights down in Miami
• 1:31:07
  and it like you said that that might be the coming out party
• 1:31:10
  because every it seems like I know people hate like we're on
• 1:31:14
  Friday night but usually a Friday night game you going to
• 1:31:17
  get 2 to 4 million dives on you maybe more but yeah but over
• 1:31:22
  over overall I I I'm not this isn't a terrible schedule like
• 1:31:29
  the flow isn't the flow is OK it's not as bad.
• 1:31:32
  As it could be, it's not as good as it could be.
• 1:31:34
  But I mean it it's it's it's definitely manageable because
• 1:31:37
  there's really only one team on this schedule that on paper is
• 1:31:42
  better than us, right, Two. Well, technically two.
• 1:31:45
  Technically, who's the? Who's the second one?
• 1:31:47
  Miami's. Technically, on paper, better
• 1:31:48
  than us. I disagree.
• 1:31:50
  The mother fuckers. Don't know how to coach them.
• 1:31:52
  They they decide they going to run the ball on 3rd down when
• 1:31:55
  all you got to do is take a knee to win.
• 1:31:56
  I disagree. That they are better than us on
• 1:31:58
  paper. OK.
• 1:31:59
  Yeah. Oh, no, I I understand where
• 1:32:02
  Curtis is coming from when he's talking about the average,
• 1:32:04
  probably have drinking and recruits and things like that.
• 1:32:07
  But I understand where Brian is coming from because we're
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  looking at actual production and what we have going back, you
• 1:32:15
  know what I'm saying? So I get that.
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  But yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I I understand both ways of like
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  what where we're going. But like I said, kind of going
• 1:32:25
  back to what Curtis says, man, like just digging in and looking
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  at that at that schedule, like Rutgers is going to be physical.
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  That's going to be a physical game.
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  And then to go out of that and then go to Miami, Yes.
• 1:32:39
  Oh man. But I I just had a, like a a
• 1:32:43
  flashback of US playing Rutgers this year.
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  I think they beat us and had like 40 yards passing.
• 1:32:53
  It's crazy like that ain't going down in lane this year, man.
• 1:32:58
  No, I don't know how that game is going to go, but that game
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  ain't going like that. And and I'll tell.
• 1:33:02
  You something else. Is that the the team that?
• 1:33:06
  Could have played. Rutgers in this spot this year
• 1:33:08
  is a completely different team that played them in this spot
• 1:33:10
  last year. Oh yeah, definitely.
• 1:33:11
  And we'll be talking. About and Curtis we talking
• 1:33:14
  about Miami in that bowl game in the Penn Straight Bowl.
• 1:33:18
  Rutgers beat Miami. Rutgers beat Miami.
• 1:33:20
  We had the same record overall. Rutgers beat Miami.
• 1:33:23
  They they are not. I.
• 1:33:26
  If you're if we're just talking recruiting rankings.
• 1:33:28
  If we're just talking recruiting, yeah, talent, fine.
• 1:33:30
  Talent, fine. But on paper they're not a
• 1:33:32
  better team than us. There we go.
• 1:33:34
  There we go. OK.
• 1:33:35
  All right. Boys, we didn't win.
• 1:33:38
  Hour and hour and 30. What else?
• 1:33:40
  Y'all got anything else out there for tonight?
• 1:33:43
  Man, I'm just. Thankful to be back, man.
• 1:33:45
  Thankful to be back. I feel like it's been a month or
• 1:33:48
  four months with. So many extra days between
• 1:33:52
  episodes with the offseason and then you missing one.
• 1:33:54
  It's it's feel like it's been. Yeah, feels.
• 1:33:57
  Like feels like it's been a long time, man.
• 1:33:59
  It's good to be back. I want to give a shout out to
• 1:34:01
  all the people who've been reaching out to me, man, asking
• 1:34:03
  about my son. Just keeping me encouraged, you
• 1:34:06
  know, all of my all of my family on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
• 1:34:12
  all of you guys has reached out, man.
• 1:34:14
  Definitely appreciate it. Definitely.
• 1:34:16
  You know, even if I don't get back to you right then I do see
• 1:34:19
  it. I want to say thank you to the
• 1:34:22
  Drones family man. From from Kevin to Tyron to Miss
• 1:34:26
  drones all of them and great family thank you know very
• 1:34:30
  thankful for them reaching out and and just giving their
• 1:34:33
  condolences and everything as well for my son's injury and and
• 1:34:37
  shout out to Kyron for coming home man and and spending his
• 1:34:41
  time just talking to 3 old guys about how much we love Virginia
• 1:34:45
  Tech football. So, man, it's been it's been
• 1:34:48
  awesome, man. 2024 is here, You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:52
  It's already, you know, almost the middle.
• 1:34:54
  I hope everybody's got their Valentine's stuff picked out.
• 1:34:59
  Guys, wheels out there, you. Ain't got reservations.
• 1:35:03
  You need to get on that shit fast, I walked through.
• 1:35:05
  Walmart today and I seen all kind of like little bears on the
• 1:35:08
  floor and stuff like that. So I hope y'all got your stuff
• 1:35:12
  ready, man, because it's coming up quick.
• 1:35:14
  I get my wife taking a trip. So I'm.
• 1:35:16
  I'm excited. Where you going?
• 1:35:17
  Y'all. Going.
• 1:35:18
  I I. Can't tell because my.
• 1:35:20
  Wife might be listening to complete.
• 1:35:21
  Oh, OK. Yeah, put in the.
• 1:35:23
  Chat. She can't see that he's.
• 1:35:25
  Doing. He's doing it big.
• 1:35:26
  So he is going, yeah, I got my son's birthday on the 12th.
• 1:35:30
  I got Valentine's Day, of course, the 14th.
• 1:35:33
  Then I got my wife's birthday on the 27th.
• 1:35:35
  Oh my God. Every.
• 1:35:36
  Every. Every February.
• 1:35:38
  Every February. Yeah.
• 1:35:40
  Definitely. Definitely, You sound like me.
• 1:35:42
  January or December to January 25th when I got kids birthday,
• 1:35:48
  Christmas, wife's birthday, other kids birthday.
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, I'm have fun. With that, I'm broke at the end.
• 1:35:53
  Of the year. All right.
• 1:35:54
  Well, boys, let's wrap up this episode of the Boundary Corner
• 1:35:57
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  going to get back into the swing of doing some gigs now that
• 1:36:46
  wrestling season's over. We got a second.
• 1:36:50
  Finish the farmers market. We back at granted.
• 1:36:52
  Is he back at? Granted.
• 1:36:56
  Let's see what we got here. He's doing stuff.
• 1:36:59
  Down at the farmers market. He was down there last weekend,
• 1:37:03
  so likely down at the former Marcus down in Granon village in
• 1:37:07
  Roanoke to check him out. And you know what?
• 1:37:09
  And you know what else, Curtis? Before we get out of here, man,
• 1:37:12
  we got to give a shout out to young Jack, man.
• 1:37:15
  Yes. Jack No.
• 1:37:16
  Me off, he is doing his thing. He is putting out some fire
• 1:37:21
  graphics right now. That's our young guy that's
• 1:37:24
  behind the scenes. We might, hey, we might have a
• 1:37:28
  face reveal and show y'all Jack one day.
• 1:37:30
  Just know we got some stuff working.
• 1:37:31
  Jack is doing his thing in the background.
• 1:37:34
  So a lot of the graphics that you guys are seeing, a lot of
• 1:37:36
  the shorts that you guys are seeing.
• 1:37:38
  Jack's doing a great job man. Just would definitely want to
• 1:37:41
  give him, give him a shout out and tell him we appreciate it.
• 1:37:44
  Yeah, Jack, we do. Appreciate man those reels you
• 1:37:46
  put out last week. I mean that it pop up and it was
• 1:37:49
  just, it captured, it captured the conversation.
• 1:37:52
  The stuff you put in the background look great, man, and
• 1:37:55
  you are doing a hell of a job and we really appreciate it
• 1:37:58
  because. We.
• 1:38:00
  Working, you know? Eight to seven.
• 1:38:03
  Some days so, Jack. You keep it up, man.
• 1:38:07
  Because we know where you want to go, and with the way you got
• 1:38:10
  the stuff looking here, you're going to get there, all right.
• 1:38:12
  Anything else, boys? Oh.
• 1:38:14
  We good, man. We got a ride, man.
• 1:38:16
  We thank you. Guys for always listening and as
• 1:38:19
  always, let's go.