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Tronald Trump: Tron: Ares Failure, PAX Aus Recap & Weapons Review · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Welcome to Multiple Nerdgasm with your hosts Matt, Luke, and
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Dan. Multiple Nerdgasm, your guide to
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all things nerdy. There's a lot of dead people
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because it's been 2 weeks. That's why.
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I was like how the fuck did I watch so many movies?
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It's because it's been 2 weeks. It's been 2 weeks.
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We disappeared to Pax which God I had fun again.
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Dan, you need to do the Sunday. You miss out on the Sunday.
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The Sunday is the best day. Yeah, I had to leave early
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because I I bought a ticket to the poor airline and so I had to
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take a bus out to some field and get on a plane.
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Oh yeah. Gatwick Sundays, a day I like.
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To go on in fucking Melbourne. Avalon.
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Avalon That's right, because Sundays, a day we eventually
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women talk to people. Actually, you're right, I did a
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lot of talking on Sunday morning because Sunday mornings when I
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went back to the video game section, which for some reason,
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even though I assume that's where I'm going to spend most of
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my time, we barely even hung out there because we're just a whole
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time. Yeah, right.
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He's infected you. I.
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Really did. And tabletop games.
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I know, right? Yeah.
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But no, it's actually because it's actually part of my plan.
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I like to do walk around the sort of the games to begin with,
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then spend the rest of time at tabletop.
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And then on Sundays, today, I like to go and talk to the
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people who have made the games and stuff because that's the
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quietest day for them. Yeah, that's sort of Family Day,
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yeah. I was gonna say Sunday for me is
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usually just kind of mopping up, which sounds gross, but it's
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like, oh, I saw a thing, but there were too many people.
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So yeah, Sunday, let's go back and retread all that stuff,
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yeah? Yeah, there's some good stuff,
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which I'll I'm not prepared to talk about this week because
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I've been trying to build a bed, a dishwasher.
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Yeah, and ask me. Yeah, the police have asked me
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enough questions. Yeah, at this point.
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Look, I think we should talk about the medals we won, so
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because that's exciting. So yeah.
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I've met this. PAX medal here that says
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tabletop tournament champion, which is pretty nice.
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You. What medal have you got, Luke?
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I have a pity medal from 10 years ago, but it was a pity
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medal. I've never won an official
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medal. Then who I taught to play King
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of Tokyo goes on and wins the tournament.
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It appears The Apprentice has become the master.
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Yes, yes, yeah. Full credit to Luke.
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He he did teach me to play after I played two or three games of
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it last year. I was like, Luke, how do you
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play this game? I think it's fun, but I don't
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know what I'm doing. I do know what I'm doing now,
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but I still think I accidentally won.
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But I'll still take the win. Good enough that.
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Happens a lot. I will sit down and I will help
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people learn to play the game and they go on to win the
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tournament. Even that is that comedian.
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She's got ATV show. I forget who she is.
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Melanie Bracewell, I taught her to play the game.
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She went on to win the game and then she went on to her show to
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brag about how she won with people who play all the time.
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I taught you, bitch. Yeah, I'm also going on my show
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to brag on it. So I mean, who am I to judge?
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She's not lying, Luke. She did win.
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She. Did win.
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I understand. Did she name check you though?
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Did she say no thanks? Shout out to Luke Aldous.
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Now see that's. What?
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No, she was bragging that she beat people who had been playing
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it for years and stuff like that.
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And that's what. Annoyed.
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You're the person, all right? So she not only did she not name
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you, but she shamed you instead. Yes.
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It had it been like they say, Luke, those who can't do teach,
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teach. Yeah.
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I'm a great teacher. I do have to buy this game.
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I do have to get a copy of this game.
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Buy King of New York. OK, maybe.
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Maybe. Yeah.
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New York Just that might cost a little bit more.
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Might want to avoid the US ones right now.
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That also true. Also true.
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Yeah, New York just adds a few extra elements.
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Yeah, just a random few extra elements on top depending on
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what day it is. Yeah, that's right.
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Can I enter Trump Tower when I'm there?
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There are towers which you have to destroy.
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Oh, too soon, topical too soon. Yeah, it's only been 24 years.
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Yeah, I do have to buy that. And I bought I bought one game
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at PAX and then I also bought another game from PAX after I
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came home because for some reason I saw something else that
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I liked there and then didn't buy it.
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And I came home and I was like, I do want to, I do want to own
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that. So I I also bought Buffet Boss
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which is coming yes. Buffet Boss is a great name.
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That's a that, yeah, that is a great game.
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It's a bit like some pressure luck like getting getting sort
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of ingredients and trying to you have to sort of make them sit on
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a towel type of thing that falls over.
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Yeah, so I think it's like Jenga with food with with Asian food.
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And I figure Harper can play it with us even if she doesn't, you
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know, roll the dice. Play by the the real rules.
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Yes. She can still just.
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Stop far away from playing some of the Quacker games, but.
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How dare you? Which I think that'll be quite
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good for her. And you just stop playing.
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Which of those? Daughter also play them Luke or
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is it just? Yeah, no, no, no.
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OK. Because Luke has to teach her
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how to do it, and it's much easier for him to come here and
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teach Harper than he is. Luke doesn't like playing with
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people as he can teach them to beat him.
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Yes. No, but I think a lot of those,
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even for Matt, even for yes, she can play as well.
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I think they're getting to the age where they keep.
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Thanks. Mate, they're sort of simple
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games and just card games and I think they're nearly, they're
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nearly there. Yeah, yeah, maybe a year or two.
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Harper enjoys Snap now. She's like stuff like that.
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She's she's, she's at the level for Snap.
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She she understands C2 Snap it. Yeah, we do the memory game that
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she's. Oh yeah.
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Yeah, she she likes doing that. She's good at.
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That we've got a great one that's a yes up Cheats as well.
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Yeah, yeah, they think. She's very clever too.
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Yes, they just think they're better at the game than us.
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Yeah, like dad doesn't turn over cars.
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This shortcut where I just cheat.
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Have a little look. Yeah, yeah, and she could be all
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the ones I'm not supposed to know about.
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Harper cheats at Snakes and Ladders too, by just going up
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and down as she pleases. Yes, there it does it, too.
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We've got this Disney one where it's like a big board and you
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move up the board and you have to look for pictures.
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Have you got that one? Yes.
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And then yeah, Yeah. And Larry goes, oh, I'll just
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take the shortcut. And it's like, well, hang on a
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minute, You can't just go up on because you're near it.
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Yeah.
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Well, whatever. Why not?
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Yeah, exactly. It's just not worth arguing.
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Then there was my dad, who never ever let me win at chess and I
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still to this day I've never had the satisfaction of beating my
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father at chess. And also, I'm not a lot.
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Now what if our listeners grant I'd beat you at chess?
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Yes. Never playing, Yeah.
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Once the one time you played. Didn't we 20 years Patriots a
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rematch? You agreed to do a rematch.
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If you paid $100. A. $100 tease.
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I think somebody. Did that he was more than
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willing to pay $100 for a rematch.
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I also said though, we had to recreate, so we had to go ahead
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and get very, very, very drunk. Yeah, and we have to we have to
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go to my old my old apartment in Summerhill.
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Knock on the door. Sorry, I used to live here.
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I don't know if you bought this for me.
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You were. Very drunk and we need to
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reenact something. Yeah, yeah, we've bought a chess
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board if that clears anything up.
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Yeah. Speaking of listeners, I think
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the highlight of packs this year for me was that I met a
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listener. You.
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Finally met him this show. Yes, I did.
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I met Matthew. Have you met?
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Have I met listeners before? I've met the listeners, yeah.
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I've not met the listener you're talking about.
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No, no, it's less likely these days.
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Yeah, we lassie. Yeah, I think I'm, I'm confident
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that lassie's OK being named. Yeah, I'm sure all I met.
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Is. Pomniac Legion.
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Did you? It was Cognac Legion there.
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At PAX. A measure on Sunday.
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There. You go.
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That's awesome. Hey, guys.
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So The funny thing about my meeting with Darcy was the fact
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that he was standing behind me for a good 10 minutes trying to
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get Luke's attention, unsuccessfully, and not knowing
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who I was. That's funny.
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And then when we thinking about he's like, oh, I've seen you
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like for the past two days. I didn't know that that you were
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you so and I didn't know he was here.
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And you are his favorite and he's excellent.
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He's my favorite listener now. Yep.
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Oh, you heard me listeners. He's my favorite.
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Geez. Gotta pick it up.
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You're all my favorites. I've hugged multiple listeners
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now. OK, what?
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Let's not, let's not get. What?
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I've hugged multiple listeners, Hugged, hugged.
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I don't get weird you. Could have done 3 or 4.
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Whoa. Maybe five.
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I've not done 5 listeners. Let me put that out there.
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I've not done 5 listeners. No, I definitely haven't.
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What else you guys been doing? Luke's not prepared to talk
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about everything at PAX yet. PAX what else need to do?
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I went to the movies and saw a couple of movies.
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OK, I do want to talk about this.
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I saw the Naked gun. Oh, what do you think?
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It was, it was great. It was.
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Yeah. Like watching it was like
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watching the original. And I quite even quite like
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remember the they did a reboot of Walter Chevy Chase movie.
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Fletch. National Lampoon.
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Fletch. They did a reboot of that as
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well and I think Yep, they continued both of those series.
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That was really funny. I was surprised.
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I thought they're not going to, they're not going to nail
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Fletch. Who's in that?
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I was going to say Matt Hamm, Jon Hamm.
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Yep. Your brother.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, no, both, yeah, both of
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them. I reckon that there's a series
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there that they could continue again.
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Oh, Luke, hear me out. Stripes.
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Oh, that's. Going to be.
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Next, please. And he could be topical because
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I'm sure they're doing military drives, recruitment drives in
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America right now. Because no offence, Matt, but
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you guys are going to war, right?
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I don't know who with. I do not know.
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I honestly can't tell who with, but you're going to.
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Be anybody you're going to be. Shooting at someone, it could.
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Be anybody. Yeah, so I think a new stripes
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is warranted for sure. So you know what you could do
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against Murray? Play like the dual Sergeant or
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something, you know? Oh yeah, it could be the general
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that comes in at the end to look at the the weapons
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demonstration. As long as you checked his
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voicemail, he might do it. Yeah.
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The other movie I went and saw was Tron.
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I'm very interested to hear and Matt so.
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You saw Tron while it was still alive.
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Yeah, Was it alive? Murdered by Jared Leto,
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apparently. You see Tron what wasn't even
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dialled in child movie Tron earthing Jared Leto.
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Trump wasn't back. No, I heard that.
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Trump was not in it. No.
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Right. And the movie made zero sense,
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even less sense than it was made in the past.
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It was about Trump. Trump.
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The name of this episode? Sorry, yeah, let me just make a
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quick note of that. But the.
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Music in it was amazing. Yeah, that's what I've heard.
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I've heard that it's basically it's two out in music.
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That's fine. Yeah.
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Why don't we just listen to the soundtrack then?
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Oh, I mean. I still I have to get in.
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Yeah, fair enough. Yeah.
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I kind of want to see it. So now I'm like, OK, so it's
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doing atrociously at the box office to the point where
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apparently I don't know if this is true because who knows, But
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Disney apparently have have just said I'm going to we're going to
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bury the franchise at this point.
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And it's like, I, I think that's a little bit extreme just
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because you made a dud movie, but whatever they want to do.
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What did How did Trump legacy do?
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I mean I think better than this, but not not great.
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I. Don't think it did great either.
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No. So maybe Trump legacy I thought
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was good. I thought it was good as music.
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And that was. It's not perfect too.
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Yeah, no. No, no at.
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Least they had the right in it, the right music, the right
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amount of neon. Yeah, and I'm there, but.
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I mean Tron isn't that good either.
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Like it's good in a nostalgic way and it was kind of ground
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breaking special effects wise, but it's not like.
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Yes. Plot wise it's pretty podge
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like. The plot in all three movies
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makes zero sense. Somehow.
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Exactly. In the third one they managed to
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find out a way to bring them into the real world, but only
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for 29 minutes. Oh, I didn't know at a time.
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OK. And then they have.
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And then they then they die and then they can just bring them
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back again. And they're trying to poke, look
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at a way to have them permanently here.
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And it's sort of like that's like a.
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Really shit version of the Battlestar Galactica.
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Like Cylon 17 minute cycle thing but it's just like not as good.
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Yep. Yeah, don't.
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Don't bother. I've heard no, I will.
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I've heard it's visually good. Is that true?
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I've seen some of the shots I've seen look look really cool.
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No, I'm not impressed. No, I wasn't that impressed with
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that. All right.
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Because I was thinking maybe I should go see it in 3D because
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I'll never see that. Maybe what they're saying is
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that Jared Leto is very handsome, but he's not very good
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at acting. Well, this is he's been blamed
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for a lot of the failures of this.
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And there was a quite funny exchange I saw online where
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somebody, it was an article said they've spoken to an anonymous
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screenwriter from Disney who said that the film would have
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had the same issues with any actor.
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It's not Jared Leto's fault. Sure.
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And and then I saw a response from Gary Witter, who wrote
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films such as Rogue One and. And yeah, yeah, quite famous
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Screenwriter said not anonymous screenwriter from Disney here.
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And I can tell you that Jared Leto has had a serious effect on
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this film because people are avoiding it because he's in it.
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Yeah, I must admit, and I don't know when this started to
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happen, but I do cringe when I see that he's in a film.
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When people talk about the fact that movies, what's that?
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What's some good movie that he's been in?
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Oh look, I mean other than fighter.
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Club Fight Club. Yeah, but he's not the star of
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any of those, although I think he's not the star of this one
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either, but. Stuff.
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But it's. More the fact that people talk
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about now, the culty behaviour and the potential.
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I think that must be. It too like that girls are too
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young. People talk about this in a way
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that it's become yeah, he's, he's got like a yeah.
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He doesn't go, he doesn't actually go and see his movies.
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He goes and lives in the forest. That's the little.
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Line stuff that people think he's a douchebag because of.
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All that stuff too, the method acting, sending people used
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condoms and stuff like. Yeah, I mean, that's not.
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Don't like him? Right, that is not on.
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No, people just don't like him. How big a role does he play in
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Tron? He is.
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He's a star. Yeah, OK, so when you when you
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say it, the script wasn't good in the modern, not even a great
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movie. Anyway, hiring someone that
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nobody likes as the main character is probably.
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It doesn't help. Yeah, he starts off as the bad
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guy and then he becomes the good guy.
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Right. I think Gary Wood's point was
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that, yeah, like, yeah, sure, the script was bad, but like
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when you put someone who's people don't like in the movie,
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obviously has an effect. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, just just stop. That's why they.
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Tried TV? Ahead of movies.
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Yeah, there's plenty of movies with bad scripts that I fucking
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love. All right?
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So, you know, Yeah. And honestly, there are plenty
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of actors out there that. Yeah.
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If someone else should have done it, plenty of good actors it.
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Looked like any of us didn't call.
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Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. You guys want to be in Tron
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Aries? No, Yeah.
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No. No, not interested.
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No, just kidding. We're there.
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Yeah. Yep.
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Yeah, you want me in a movie? My own my own Neon.
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We saw the Tron bike at Pais I. Saw that that was there.
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And we're so uninterested, we didn't even sit on it.
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No, it was pretty cool. There was no line for us, like
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because the first time I saw it went, oh, they're just going to
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cordon off. No one can sit on it or touch
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it. No, no, just no line they
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wanted. No interest no one had.
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It I saw some influencer posted a video of them on it and I was
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like, oh, that back looks pretty cool to be honest, yeah.
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If you saw it up close. It did not.
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Yeah, it looks better on film than up close.
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But look, mind you, you should have taken pictures.
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Luke and I, Luke and I was were in both in cosplay.
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Matt, I don't know if you know this.
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We didn't. Take photos of this.
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No, we didn't really, did we? Other people took photos of us,
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a couple at least we've got. A couple.
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Yes, I see other couples came up to us and said.
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We know what you we. Noticed you guys across the room
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and we were wondering. I mean, that kind of is what
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happened. But but, but like more awkwardly
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and less sexually. It was more like I'm one of six
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people here that knows who you're dressed up as.
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Can I take a picture? Who were you dressed up as?
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You're going to tell me What? Do I have to figure it out?
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I did my normal Babylon 5. Oh, OK.
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And I was the 7th Doctor. Yep, OK.
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Doogie Howser, MD No Sylvester Mccoy's Doctor Who.
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Very cool. It was fun.
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Yeah, only a few people noticed. Yeah, because which that's the.
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Best way to do it, because also if you happen to know, yeah, but
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that's why I like my Doctor Who costume is because if you don't
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know who that is, you don't think I'm in costume.
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You just think that's the thing. Yeah, you could just be a person
18:53
who dresses strangely and it's packs, so who gives?
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You actually there was one time I got called out for the oh,
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that's a great costume Marine and I'm sort of this is just my
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clothes. I'm Naked.
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I will admit I did win a a jacket fall out like Oh yeah, 76
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jacket. So I was wearing Jack and
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they've gone. That's a great, close play, you
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know? Yeah.
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Aaron, I just got this. I got this over there.
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Yeah. That was a lucky win too,
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because they only had that one size right and it was just a
19:27
case of. Benefits because sometimes if
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there's a competition, Luke will just stand in front of them and
19:32
refuse to move until they give him the prize.
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I mean, do the story of that's all you really have to do.
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Oh, I wish I knew where the photo was.
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There was a signing that was happening at 2:30.
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I just happened to be standing there at the time.
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So I was like third in line, right.
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So I got a signature. I got a photo with this with
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with this girl. I have no idea who her who she
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is but posted on sex lost control.
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Oh shit, bloody hell, now I can't quite see where that it
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looks. Is it just graffitied or does it
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Is it tie in with something? Little skull I don't know is.
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She like a voice actor or something?
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No, I I honestly have no idea she was she was meant to be
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signing with Remember the old the guy from Good Game.
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Yeah, Barger. Yeah, she was meant to be
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signing with him, but he was sick, so it was only her there.
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So I don't know, they've got a project or something happening,
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but I wish she was there. And I went, yeah, I'll take
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that. It's not Steph, right?
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You know that that's. Not Steph.
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No. Yeah, yeah, no.
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She was there, though. She was there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that in an audition once.
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I was gonna say you were an audition.
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You've met her. I know you've met her.
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Yes, yes. Luke hates her so.
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Does he? Yeah, he hates.
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Her. Well, I applied to be on that
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show. I was rejected, so screw that.
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By her. By her, Yeah, yeah.
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They were like, it's down to Luke or this beautiful woman.
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I would have been. Great on good game because they
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spoke down to people and I did not like that.
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Yeah, it was very condescending. Yeah, I did that at an audition
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once, Luke. I arrived at an audition.
21:13
So this enormous line and. And the guy right there was like
21:17
back of the line, buddy. And I was like, oh, and I walked
21:20
all the way up, stood at the very end, and then a guy with a
21:22
clipboard came out. Right.
21:23
Right. You in number one?
21:25
I was like. OK.
21:30
Yeah, I did get some free stuff. I got like some yeah, jackets,
21:34
controllers, pins, just my normal.
21:39
Pens. I got a mouse pad which I threw
21:42
in the bin. See also why we were making fun
21:48
of. We were making fun of people
21:50
really not knowing our cosplay. There was so much cosplay there
21:53
that we have no idea who they are.
21:56
No, some anime we haven't seen, yeah.
21:59
Yeah. Yeah, well, there's a lot.
22:03
Only only ever more and more things that we haven't seen,
22:06
yeah. Because ain't that.
22:07
True, I've been watching stuff, but it's not new stuff.
22:10
You've been watching some some really old stuff.
22:13
I've been watching some really old stuff.
22:14
Well, before we get to that, I have been watching some.
22:16
Just really quickly. I watched.
22:17
I know something that I know Luke has watched.
22:18
I don't know if Dan's watched. I watched 28 Years Later.
22:20
Oh. I haven't watched it.
22:23
And I will say this, it's very good.
22:26
OK, then gets very weird. Then it gets fucking weird, man.
22:30
I don't know what's going on so, but I'm excited to see what's
22:32
happening. I do want to watch this, but I
22:34
must say I I have to make time to go back and watch 28 weeks
22:37
later because as opposed to 28 days later which I saw dozens of
22:40
times, I've only seen that one once.
22:42
Didn't. Remember it?
22:44
Yeah, it didn't. Didn't.
22:45
But you don't really. Honestly, no.
22:47
Yes, it doesn't matter because I feel like unless.
22:49
I'm mistaken. The they've changed this, the
22:54
the direction that this has gone is kind of odd in a way.
22:57
It's not it's not really a spoiler the way that they've
22:59
treated the they do call them zombies a little bit now, OK.
23:03
And it's got almost like video game stuff about the zombies
23:07
where there's like alpha zombies and and things in a way that
23:11
are. Smarter and.
23:13
Yeah, and it's cool. It's just, it's just quite
23:16
different to 28 Days Later but. Yeah, like I think you don't
23:19
have to see either of them to enjoy this movie.
23:24
No, it gives you a little recap. Very.
23:26
There are zombies. The UK has now been.
23:30
It's a no go zone. So if you live there, you live
23:32
there. You can't go.
23:34
Yeah. It's got more of a.
23:35
Fantasy ending still is just Power Rangers arrive.
23:40
It's really strange. It's really strange.
23:43
I hope you're being literal because if the Power Rangers
23:46
don't arrive. I'm old lady doesn't.
23:48
Make my monster grow, then I'm going to be very.
23:51
I knew that the ending was weird.
23:53
Luke had mentioned it and I knew broadly what?
23:55
Like, I kind of knew what happened because I've seen
23:57
people discussing online and still watching it.
23:59
I was like, what? What?
24:01
Oh, I can't wait. I can't.
24:02
What? Yeah.
24:04
Look, before we go on to what you watched Matt and I do.
24:06
I really want to hear about this and and quiz you further, but I
24:09
just want to bring up quickly, Luke, when you told me the other
24:13
day that you would watch The Naked Gun, yes, I immediately
24:18
just thought to myself, I've got to rewatch Police Squad and fuck
24:22
me. Oh yeah.
24:23
We did that up. Forgetting there's only 6
24:25
episodes of. This I know.
24:26
Isn't it crazy? Like, it's incredible that
24:28
there's so few episodes. They're very funny.
24:31
It's a little bit hit and miss. They reuse quite a few of the
24:35
same gags throughout the six episodes, and sometimes it's
24:39
funny that they keep coming back and sometimes it's like, no,
24:41
you've used that one. Did you forget?
24:44
Did you forget you made that joke last episode I.
24:46
Did that's why they went through your TV show?
24:50
I think that's why they went from the TV show to the movies,
24:54
because. Yeah.
24:56
You could say a little bit longer.
24:58
The Leslie Nielsen plays a character Frank Dreven.
25:04
Yeah, in in the police squad and he plays a completely different
25:07
character also named Frank Dreven in the films.
25:10
They're not the same character. You know, the character in the
25:13
films is getting fucking fallen over shit.
25:15
And like he plays it so deadpan in police Squad and so does is
25:21
it Alan N his other his Lieutenant?
25:25
Yeah. They're deliveries to one
25:27
another like they're not. It's like no one told them they
25:30
were in a comment. I think I like the show more the
25:33
the movies. I love the movies but the show I
25:35
think is just is is just perfection.
25:38
And anytime it's just them two, it's like I I texted you guys
25:41
the other night because I was in literal tears when he was like,
25:44
he got married one child that didn't work out.
25:46
So we married a full grown woman and I was fucking.
25:49
That's such great dialogue. Yeah.
25:52
You would not get away with that on today.
25:55
No. And like, it's just so like all
25:59
the site gags and stuff because we watched after we watched the
26:01
movie, we watched a couple episodes and it was the one
26:03
where they poses the locksmiths to like to bust the mafia crime
26:09
bosses who are like shaking people down for protection
26:10
money. And then there's just like this
26:12
bit where he's trying to do a key and it just flies off
26:15
camera. And then and then just later on,
26:17
it's because of why shut? It's just all these keys stuck
26:19
in the roof. Yeah, yeah.
26:20
It's like just all these little and like.
26:22
Anytime someone shuts the door too hard, keys just fall down.
26:25
From. The roof, it's so funny.
26:28
It's. Very funny, super good.
26:30
That's what, look, I know we're not going to get the show again,
26:32
but I hope we do get more movies because I think that there's
26:36
more movies the way this went, and Leslie Lee Neeson did a
26:40
fantastic job. Cooper Yeah.
26:43
Yeah, I think. I wonder if his little scene on
26:48
Was it Life's Too Short? I wonder if that got him this,
26:51
because I would. Never have picked him.
26:54
Yeah, I would never liked him to be able to do it, but then he
26:56
was so funny in that scene and life's too short.
27:01
I got it from a well known homosexual actor.
27:05
You can't say that. Fine, I got.
27:07
It we could change the. I'm so good with AIDS.
27:14
I riddled with it, riddled with it.
27:20
Selling her body was her only recourse.
27:23
OK, right. If I could just lighten the
27:25
we're. Doing this again, aren't we?
27:29
You can't say stuff like that. Why can he?
27:32
We don't know. We don't.
27:36
I've watched six more James Bond movies.
27:40
Amazing. How are you?
27:41
Finding time for this like that was just insane.
27:44
My first. Christmas there because I can
27:46
kind of pop them on when I get a minute, like, and watch half an
27:50
hour to an hour of it and I'm OK, yeah, you know, to pick it
27:53
up, coming back later to finish it off.
27:54
Because it's not, you know, when I get to Shakespeare, like when
27:58
I get to Casino Royale, I'm going to sit down and I'm just
28:01
going to watch it because I fucking love that movie.
28:03
And there've been some of these. Well, like I've said before,
28:05
when I started to watch From Russia With Love, I stopped and
28:09
I was like, I'm going to sit down and watch this one because
28:11
I really like it. So it's happened a couple of
28:12
times. And do you know, so I won't
28:15
spend too long because it's a lot of movies I watched Diamonds
28:18
Are Forever Living, Let Die, All the Roger Moore ones up until
28:24
now, I've seen For Your Eyes Only.
28:27
I've watched quite a few and. Thunderball.
28:29
Moonraker. Thunderball was earlier.
28:32
That was Connery before. What am I thinking of?
28:35
You're thinking of Oh no, I'm thinking me and Rica.
28:38
Are you getting close with the? Girls in Bron.
28:41
Yeah, well, he's got. He's got a whole other, He's got
28:43
a whole other Bond who? Did two never say never again
28:46
with Conor Ray coming back? Yes.
28:48
I got to watch that and then I've got Octopussy.
28:51
Matt, do you know who choreographed the fight scenes
28:54
in Never Say Never Again? I don't I know who that.
28:58
'D be. That'd be sensei Steven Seagal.
29:01
Fuck off. Are you serious?
29:03
I'm so excited to watch then there's so much interesting Bond
29:06
trivia. We we could do a whole episode
29:08
on it. I don't want to, but there's
29:09
just so many interesting, like every.
29:11
I'll be watching the movies and something weird will happen.
29:14
Yeah. And you're like, the fuck is
29:15
that? And you look it up and there's
29:16
always some interesting horseshit, you know, like behind
29:20
the scenes thing. It's like, like for example, the
29:23
the this is the most recent one in my mind.
29:26
For your eyes only, right? Moonraker happens and then
29:30
Fioris only is next and then. So Moonraker is obviously.
29:33
Fioris only is one of those titles that I it it doesn't
29:36
instantly connote the plot for me.
29:38
Remind me which one that is? It's the one.
29:40
So it it was a return to a more grounded story about they've got
29:44
this targeted weapon weapon system that gets like it, it
29:50
something happens and then they lose track of it.
29:52
And then the they're trying to stop all the other governments
29:54
from getting control of this system because then they could
29:56
make them shoot all the weapons at each other or no world
29:59
defense systems are it's like a very grounded like spy thriller.
30:03
If you had to say it's the one with what it's.
30:06
The one with it's the one with BB, the I, the skiing girl who's
30:11
too young and Bond won't have sex with her, It's that.
30:14
Right. OK, too young.
30:16
If I have to mention, yeah, he's the one with the intro, it's the
30:19
one with the intro. I'm going to tell you about
30:20
that. That is very memorable.
30:22
So you had Moonraker, which got ridiculous.
30:24
It got really ridiculous at the end.
30:27
Yeah, I love it. I think it's great, but he can
30:29
they go into space and there's a space station and then all of a
30:32
sudden everybody's got fucking laser guns for no reason.
30:35
There's they never mention it. Everyone just if.
30:37
This happened to come out the year of Star Wars.
30:39
Is it Like, what else was that that year?
30:41
Yeah. Yeah, it's got Jaws is in it.
30:44
Jaws is the the villain. Oh, he's exactly the same
30:47
character. He's just he.
30:49
Was a Spielberg Lucas? Tribute he's he's just murders
30:53
people and then Bonnie. Just said clarify Luke, Jaws is
30:55
not the name of the shark I know.
31:02
John Jaws even in in the movie someone says who's that?
31:08
And then Bond says, oh, that's George.
31:10
He kills people, right? That's his character is that
31:12
he's got metal teeth and he fucking kills people.
31:14
But then at the end of Moonraker, because the bad guy
31:19
is trying to basically he's a Nazi and he's taken all the
31:22
beautiful people to space to make, to repopulate the Earth.
31:25
He's going to kill everybody with this nerve gas, right?
31:27
That's the plot of Moonraker. He's built this space station,
31:30
fly up there in these space shuttles, have laser battles and
31:33
he's going to wipe out the Earth and repopulate it.
31:36
And then he says only the most perfect people will be allowed
31:39
to exist now and that. And then Bond is like saying to
31:42
Jaws, you think you'll be part of this.
31:45
And then Jaws all of a sudden because of that is now a good
31:48
guy, right? Not just like self interested.
31:51
He literally is now a good guy and sacrifices himself to save
31:55
James Bond. Like it just gets so ridiculous.
31:58
That reminds you of a book by Ben Elton Stark where he's going
32:03
to, They're all going to. All the rich people are going to
32:06
leave Earth and they're going to basically just dump oil and
32:10
destroy the Earth, so. Lego, that's the plot of
32:13
Moonraker. But anyway, so it got it gets
32:15
really ridiculous. So like I said, laser battles
32:16
and and and nonsense. And then they were like, what do
32:22
we do now? And they also apparently after
32:26
that Roger Moore had signed on for three.
32:28
He'd done 3. He'd done Moonraker as like a
32:33
kind of contract on a per film basis.
32:36
He'd said, yeah, I'll do Moonraker.
32:38
And they were like, is he going to do another one?
32:41
Do we want to replace him? So they start looking around for
32:44
people to replace Roger Moore. They talk to Timothy Dalton.
32:47
They offer it to Timothy Dalton. And he says, no, the movies are
32:52
fucking ridiculous. I'm I'm not doing that.
32:54
If I was to do James Bond, it would be like the books, right?
32:59
And so they're like, OK, we need to pivot back.
33:02
So for your eyes only is more grounded.
33:05
It's like a political thriller. It's got this scene at the start
33:09
and it's so Roger Moore eventually after he gets the
33:11
shits because he finds out they're they're auditioning new
33:15
people, says fuck you. I'm not doing another one.
33:17
They Yeah. Fair enough.
33:19
They pay him enough to talk him into it because they can't find
33:21
anyone. Yeah, not the only time I've
33:24
done that either. Yeah, so the opening of your
33:26
eyes only Bond visits the grave of his dead wife from.
33:31
Oh. From his from.
33:34
His Secret Service. Yeah, Tracy visits the grave.
33:36
He's visiting the grave of his wife.
33:38
The the priest comes over and says, you they're sending a
33:42
helicopter for you. They said it's an emergency.
33:44
And he's like, well, yes, that happens.
33:46
And then so this helicopter comes and then he gets in the
33:48
helicopter and then he sees the priest doing this and he goes
33:50
fuck. And then it's Blofeld remote
33:54
controlling the helicopter, right?
33:56
And it's it's fucking insane. But and so he's like it and it
34:03
but they can't say blow felt. It's basically you see someone
34:06
in a wheelchair, bald with a neck brace on.
34:09
So it's clearly he survived on Her Majesty's Secret Service and
34:12
he's trying to go harvest a bond.
34:14
I've got you now. And he's like remote controlling
34:16
this helicopter precariously around for some reason, not just
34:20
killing him. Not just gone straight to the
34:21
ground, yeah. Yeah, not just, well, not just
34:23
fucking shooting him like for. Sure.
34:25
Yeah, infinite ways you could have murdered him.
34:27
But anyway, so Bond manages to get into the pilot seat,
34:32
disconnect the thing, and then he scoops Blofeld up on the
34:35
prongs of the helicopter because for some reason Bofeld doesn't
34:40
have any hench men with him or whatever.
34:42
And then? Just hang in there, yeah?
34:44
As they're flying through the air, with Blofeld stuck on the
34:48
prongs of the helicopter, Blofeld says I'll make you a
34:51
deal. I'll buy you a delicatessen in
34:53
stainless steel. Remember that line?
34:56
Yes. What do not remember?
34:59
You never heard about this? When he said it, I was like, oh
35:01
fuck, I've heard about this. It's apparently it's some mafia
35:03
thing. Oh.
35:05
Like it's because like. Cutting cold meats, something.
35:08
Like delicatessen is like a food preparation thing and apparently
35:11
some mafia thing is like I'll cut you a deal by your destiny.
35:15
Stainless steel. Like it's like the quality
35:18
kitchen, but but like now it just sounds like insanity.
35:21
Like what? The fuck is he talking about?
35:23
Yeah. Dumps him into a chimney.
35:26
Blofeld's done with. And apparently the whole point
35:28
of that was some one of the other producers owns the rights
35:32
to Thunderball and therefore Spectre and therefore Blofeld.
35:36
So this, the whole intro to the movie was we're going to
35:40
introduce a new actor as James Bond.
35:42
Didn't happen. We're gonna.
35:44
Remove the old. We're gonna remove all the.
35:48
We don't need that shit anymore. Yeah.
35:50
Dumping down a chimney. This is a message.
35:51
Fuck you. We don't need your fucking
35:53
property. Intellectual property.
35:55
Yeah. So this this just weird thing at
35:56
the start. And then it's like, OK, serious
35:59
spider. Movie.
36:00
Now this is the one with the the smuggler on the boat, right?
36:04
The guy with the mustache? Yep.
36:05
Yes, you get shot, it'll hit the girl, it's the woman.
36:09
So it apparently the the idea of it was that Bond meets this
36:14
woman who he can't have sex with because she's so driven by
36:17
revenge. I was like that because she is
36:19
so young. That's the other.
36:23
That's the other woman in the movie, right?
36:25
Yeah. But but yeah, the whole what?
36:26
He got to draw the other woman. Yeah.
36:28
Who does he? He's gonna have to do his job,
36:30
Luke. There's no time in.
36:34
This, you know what? Roger Moore cracks me up.
36:36
There's so many times in the Roger Moore ones where he
36:38
literally gets fucking caught because he'll walk into a
36:41
volcano like a secret base with some villain and then some
36:44
woman's like, and he's like, yeah, fuck it.
36:47
Oh yeah, what? He walks in this literally just
36:49
walks into a trap because like a woman's doing this like.
36:54
Too funny. Also he is very rapey,
36:58
especially in the early ones. I forget that because I always
37:01
think Connery is the rapist. So Connery has a very funny
37:05
moment in Diamonds Are Forever. Connery is intentionally.
37:10
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
37:12
And the start of Diamonds are forever and the start of
37:15
Diamonds are forever. He's looking for Blofeld because
37:17
his wife's been murdered and he's like beating up all these
37:19
people. Where the fuck is Blofeld?
37:21
And then he there's this bit where he walks up to this pool.
37:23
You don't know who this person is.
37:25
They've never met this woman's there in a bikini.
37:27
And she goes, who are you? And he goes, my name's Bond,
37:30
James Bond. And then he, like, sits down
37:32
next to him and she goes, can I help you with something?
37:34
And he goes, it's something I'd like you to get off your chest.
37:37
Rips the top off. She's with it and says where our
37:41
clock is, Blurfeld. She's like, I'm just a lady at
37:47
the pool mate. Yeah, yes.
37:50
Matt, your favorite part of Diamonds Are Forever, though, is
37:52
this. He's hiding.
37:58
Yeah. Such a mixed bag because it's
38:02
also got you have the 2 gay hit men.
38:05
Yes, that's right. Bruce Glover the 2 gay hit men
38:07
and their theme the is so good. Yeah, that like I don't know,
38:15
it's such a mixed. Bag They creeped me out when I
38:17
was a kid. Like I know people say that's
38:19
that's the worst. Like what?
38:20
The worst Connery? No, they're good, but.
38:23
But when I was a kid, I thought those dudes were fucking creepy.
38:26
Not because they're they. Are they're interesting?
38:27
They're not made for children. Yeah, no.
38:32
And then because they're not like, they don't come out and
38:35
say, like this is a gay couple or anything, but they just, they
38:38
say things like, you know. Oh, yeah, she's quite pretty, if
38:40
you're into that, that kind of thing.
38:41
Like they make little clips like that.
38:43
And it's just, I don't know, it's very like, subversive for
38:45
the time. I think.
38:46
I like that they did that, yeah. Yeah.
38:49
Yeah. But you kind of remember, like,
38:51
this was back in the time when we were watching movies that
38:54
were way too old for us, and that was OK because it was the
38:56
80s. Was it the early 90s?
38:58
Particularly the broader, more ones.
39:00
So in in Living Let Die. It's got what's her name who
39:03
played Doctor Quinn? She's Jane Solitaire, Jane
39:06
Seymour. She plays Solitaire the the the
39:09
psychic woman who works for. Who he tricks into having sex
39:13
with her. Yeah, like, literally like he
39:16
says to her, oh, you believe in tarot cards, right?
39:18
You do whatever they say, wouldn't you?
39:20
And she's like, yes, of course. And then he like has a deck that
39:22
basically all the cards are the lovers.
39:24
And so he's just like, well, you know, we have to fuck.
39:26
And she's. Like yes, we have to.
39:28
And she's like, I can't, I can't, I'm a virgin, I'll lose
39:30
my powers. And he's like the Cards said.
39:33
Yeah, that's right. So and then afterwards, he's he,
39:38
he goes, by the way, I might have, I might have rigged, lied
39:42
about that. Yeah.
39:43
And she goes, oh, it doesn't matter now.
39:44
Yeah. Yeah, because she's she like,
39:47
because. I'll be killed.
39:48
Yeah. I'm useless now to my but.
39:51
He's yeah, he's very, yeah. Because I was like, oh, that's.
39:56
Can't do that. He tricks him.
39:59
He does it's a bunch of times and then also he'll like he'll
40:03
like sleep with them and then pull a gun on them because
40:05
they're the villain. He does that a couple of times.
40:07
Where? He waits, you wait.
40:09
Dude, like yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
40:14
But I guess at the time audiences didn't see it as
40:17
rapey. They just was like, oh, got me,
40:19
got me. Yeah, he's just.
40:21
He's. Just.
40:22
He's just seducing them. Yeah.
40:24
Like that's, yeah, that's how you get women.
40:29
You trick him? Yeah, Yeah.
40:32
I mean, you got to trick him a little bit.
40:35
I'm enjoying them. Yeah, definitely.
40:39
Always. Oh yeah, I got to say too, Roger
40:41
Moore, I know he is well dressed for the time, but he is.
40:46
He got the rough edge because. It's the 70s.
40:49
Style. Yeah, because you go from
40:51
Connery. Connery's like the suit Connery
40:54
wears in Goldfinger. Yeah, he's just.
40:56
You could wear it now. Amazing.
40:58
Yeah, exactly it. It just holds up.
41:00
It's like timeless. He looks fucking awesome.
41:03
You could literally go buy that suit right now and you'd look
41:05
sick. Roger Moore has very few
41:08
outfits. Thanks, Claire.
41:10
Now and not look fucking insane. Yeah.
41:12
We could do. It Let's give it a go.
41:14
Yeah, he'd probably pick it off, yeah.
41:18
All about confidence. He's also drives the Lotus which
41:22
is of it's time. In a way.
41:23
Yes as well you could. The DB 5 still looks cool.
41:27
The Lotus is like. Would you remember in the, in
41:31
the Brosnan bonds, they, they, they ditch all those
41:35
sponsorships again? BMW, it's nice in the first
41:38
movie because they've got the Z3 and then after that he basically
41:41
just stripes a family sedan. Yeah, he's got like the three
41:44
series. Yeah, BMWs.
41:46
They basically found the just because they lost even a sport
41:49
it's cut into storage and then someone just purchased a storage
41:54
locker because they stopped paying for it and was the Lotus
41:57
from the movie. Really.
41:59
Yes, that's cool. Storage walls.
42:03
I think they rebuilt it, right? What's?
42:07
That what's that? It got blown up.
42:09
It gets blown up a couple times I think.
42:12
But doesn't it turn into a boat or go?
42:13
Away. Yeah, it's a submarine.
42:16
Yes, that's right. Christ was introduced.
42:19
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he's in Italy or
42:22
something. Yeah, there's also the gondola
42:26
that inexplicably turns into a car for, like, no good reason.
42:30
Yeah, because he just drives up and then drives off, and then
42:32
it's never in the movie again. It's like he could have just
42:34
stepped off it onto the onto the dock.
42:37
Like he didn't need to have it do that.
42:40
Yeah. Oh, and that one little Easter
42:43
egg I sent you guys the video of that I obviously hadn't picked
42:46
up on when I was young is in Moonraker when he punches the
42:50
code in to get into where they're developing the.
42:52
Nerves. It's the close Encounters.
42:57
Musically funny. Hate that movie.
42:58
That blew my mind. Yeah, it's an amazing movie.
43:02
Horrible movie. Name one other movie that has a
43:05
Mashed potato mountain in it. That's one of the reasons why I
43:09
hate the movie. Idiot from UHF.
43:12
Yeah, that one episode of The Simpsons.
43:16
This whole 10 minute thing just makes sense.
43:18
Melted at a potato? How is that good viewing it's?
43:24
Incredible. Him and everyone else, they're
43:27
drawn to this place. Oh man, It's got that classic
43:30
Spielberg thing where you just, he stays on their face as they
43:33
go up and see, and then it doesn't turn to the very end.
43:36
Then you see what they're looking at.
43:37
Oh, it's classic. Spielberg got lucky.
43:40
He's speaking with Jaws. Spielberg got lucky with Jaws.
43:45
I don't know man, because duels would have been.
43:47
A different movie, George would have been a different movie if
43:51
the shark had have worked. George the shark's name was
43:53
George George from Jaws. Yeah.
43:58
Yep, if that, if George had have worked the way they wanted,
44:01
would have been a different movie and would not have been as
44:03
good. His name is Bruce, right?
44:05
Actually, Bruce. Yeah, thinking.
44:06
About it, yeah. No, it was big chap, Matt.
44:08
Big chap. His name was Bruce on set, so
44:12
you've got to call him Bruce. That's how these.
44:14
That's canonical. Yeah, that's his fucking name.
44:17
Yeah, the Predator in Predator is named Jean-Claude Van Damme.
44:21
OK. Oh man.
44:28
Anyway, yeah, so Bond, I'll keep watching him and I'll report
44:31
back if anything else is interesting.
44:32
Speaking of reporting back. You don't care about James Bond.
44:35
No, I care about him, care about him deeply.
44:39
I'm very, very keen to see where they take the franchise.
44:43
Yes, same. I'll.
44:46
Hold my breath. I'm fucking excited for Danny to
44:49
be doing a Bond film. I hope.
44:50
It would be fun again. You know what looks fucking fun
44:54
is the fucking Double O 7 video game that we're getting in a
44:57
couple of months. Bring that on.
45:00
Yeah, when is that? In fact, because I need
45:03
something to play, I purchased Shadows, but I haven't really
45:06
played it. That's why.
45:10
Catching up on so many games at the moment is crazy.
45:15
Coming out? When is it coming out?
45:17
This next year, Oh. March 2026?
45:20
That's not good news. Yep.
45:21
That's that's too far. That is way too far.
45:24
What games are still coming out this year?
45:27
Out of Worlds 2. No, you don't.
45:29
Oh, yeah. Hey, look, Speaking of games, we
45:32
should probably talk about the Xbox a bit.
45:34
Oh yeah. Make Luke, Luke, Luke.
45:35
There's some hope for you. Well, let me.
45:37
Just comment on this too because.
45:41
Oh, OK. We went to there was an Xbox
45:43
booth that packed, which there hasn't been an actual booth
45:45
there in a while. That's true.
45:47
And like we, we can't comment with any authority.
45:50
It's just that there was a conspicuous lack of something in
45:53
the booth. Do you want to guess what it is?
45:56
Yes. Yeah.
45:57
Right. And the whole point of it was
46:00
they have York, they have pictures of a laptop and they go
46:03
this is an Xbox. And then they have that little
46:05
dongle and they say this is an Xbox and.
46:08
Yeah, that's why it's so weird that they, like, they literally
46:12
saying they're not, they don't, consoles don't matter anymore.
46:15
But then they've come out and they've said no, no, no, we're
46:17
committed to Xbox hardware. This people, you know, these
46:19
reports of us exiting. False.
46:23
Yeah, you're not. They have.
46:24
They have, they've always confirmed there's going to be at
46:26
least one more physical like Xbox that's coming out.
46:30
But they are preparing for the future where, yeah, you don't
46:33
need the hardware and it's just all going to be streaming.
46:36
It's just you got to wait for the world to be able to handle
46:38
that. Yeah.
46:40
Mm, hmm. Mm hmm.
46:42
Yeah, because there was also this week people over here
46:45
saying other stores like Walmart and Target also no longer have
46:50
any Xbox stuff. And Microsoft has come out and
46:52
denied that as well and said that was just a coincidence,
46:55
like, and then but people who work there said no, no, no,
46:59
Microsoft doesn't pay for display space anymore the way
47:03
that the others do. So we're not going to they're
47:06
not going to put the stuff out. And it's like, oh, OK, I didn't
47:08
realize that they had to pay for their stuff to be in shops.
47:11
They. Get to play their new handheld.
47:14
Yes, we did. That's not theirs though.
47:16
No, it's not theirs, but my God, it's amazing.
47:21
Yeah. Right, I I I found it too big.
47:23
I found it too big. It was.
47:25
I found it perfect. I had to make my hands.
47:27
Further apart than I'd like to have.
47:30
And I mine arrived in. I'm not.
47:33
Used to holding something that big, you know what I mean?
47:35
Mine arrived in 12 days. Hey.
47:39
Oh fuck. All right.
47:41
Yep. I'm, well, it's good because
47:44
it's like you're playing it and it's the same as like an Xbox.
47:47
So if I want, it's got the quick play.
47:48
So if I want to switch the game quickly, I can just do that.
47:52
And I was able to switch. Like 4 to 5 to Indiana Jones,
47:55
like in an instant. I can do that on on my absolute.
47:59
So I'm not interested. But can you install it?
48:05
Well, I don't need to because I can play games that I have
48:10
installed on my Xbox. Yeah, but this I can install
48:15
straight on, so I don't need to worry about having to have Wi-Fi
48:18
or hotspot off my phone. I can just play it.
48:22
Yeah, true, true, true, true. Any games that don't require you
48:25
to be online, which we'll see. Yep.
48:30
No, I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited for it.
48:32
And I was right. They're aiming.
48:34
They're aiming for the future. Yeah, all the.
48:36
Circular evidence points, but here's the thing.
48:39
Look, if you wanted a classic console like say a Nintendo,
48:44
like an S, you'd want to buy a console, you'd want to buy the
48:48
controllers and you'd want to buy a bunch of carts as well so
48:51
that you could play them. Games aren't like that anymore.
48:54
It's like movies aren't like that.
48:56
Like if, if, if Xbox said no, it's just fucking download an
48:59
app onto your smart TV and then just boot up the the interface
49:04
like you would. It's like, well, I don't care if
49:05
there's a box there or not. I just want my account logged in
49:08
with the stuff I've paid for got going for them.
49:11
If you look at PCs and the controllers you people buy for
49:15
them, they're not buying Sony controllers, they're buying the
49:19
basic Xbox controllers to plug in.
49:22
The Sony controllers suck. Yeah, I've been playing some.
49:27
PlayStation 5 stuff and what have you been controllers kind
49:31
of like? I've been playing Gran Turismo
49:33
and I've been playing Silent Hill 2.
49:37
I do. Want to Yeah, yeah, the.
49:39
Sound is very good. I'm very.
49:41
Envious of anyone who can play silent.
49:43
Hill too. Have you been playing GT in VR?
49:47
I've I have played it in. VR generally no, because it's
49:51
it's a hassle to set it up and if I've got time to play, I just
49:55
want to play. I don't want to have to plugging
49:58
all that in. So.
49:59
So it's not. So much better.
50:01
That you're like, fuck, I'm missing out.
50:03
I've got to put, I've got to get the headset.
50:07
Well, so. The GT greater is more when I'm
50:11
playing usually. Like if I want to just make some
50:14
money so I can buy a new car or parts or whatever, I just want
50:16
to play, I'll just jump in and do a race on the TVI don't worry
50:19
about it. Yeah, but yeah, and you know,
50:20
you've got a good TV and you've got good speakers and all of.
50:23
That so yeah. Well, I I use the headphones
50:25
anyway. So it's a good experience, yeah.
50:29
Is there I was thinking about. This the other day because I.
50:31
Don't play any. Of the F1 games, never played an
50:35
F1 on the Omega like since then, but is there a retro F1 game
50:41
where you can play like Monza 1965 like you know, in the in
50:45
the like old timey cars and stuff, because I would play the
50:47
shit out of that. I don't know.
50:51
I think so do play the F1 games and I think.
50:54
Sometimes do have like flashback races where you are playing
50:58
right? Like you like the six wheel.
51:02
Yeah, Formula One cars. Yeah.
51:05
Oh, the. Real.
51:06
That was really long while. Yeah.
51:10
That's some Formula One. News it's.
51:13
Funny and. You think Formula One cars
51:15
always kind? Of looked like that and then you
51:17
go here's 1 from 1995 and one from now and you're like holy
51:20
shit yeah they they get paid at times look at the.
51:23
Ones from like the very. Very early ones, they were like
51:27
just really long monster cars that killed people, yeah.
51:34
Stole their souls yeah OK went weird and.
51:37
Transformed in the robots. And at the end of the race
51:41
they'd interview the car and he'd say I'll did my best.
51:47
Some F1 news just. Quickly, Apple has purchased the
51:51
exclusive rights to stream F1 in the US.
51:56
It'll be the only place you can watch Formula One in the US next
52:01
year for for four years, and you're gonna have to pay more.
52:05
Or do you just? Need Apple TV to watch?
52:07
It's included in Apple TV, so technically.
52:09
I'll be paying less because I already have.
52:12
That yet so. And I already got an e-mail from
52:15
the F1 TV thing that I subscribed to saying, sorry,
52:18
we're done, we're going away. It's just like, fuck, all right,
52:21
that's happening, but you're just, you're actually.
52:24
Just saving money for a change, yeah, yeah, I mean the F1 it's.
52:29
What like I think it's 80 bucks a year, which I mean into like
52:33
it sounds, I guess it's a lot, but I mean compared to like
52:36
buying a space, it's not when you in Australia, if you want to
52:38
watch it, you have to. Get it's not that bad and it's
52:41
20 kaos in kaos some yeah Ko is saving. $80 a year so.
52:46
They always want to use and the only.
52:48
Saving grace about KO is that they absolutely do not mind you
52:51
cancelling and then pick it up later.
52:54
Yeah, there's no, no, because all because they know the second
52:57
point. The NRL starts, I get it, the
53:00
second it finishes I can't slip and then once I start being.
53:05
That e-mail where you go. Hey, yes, you know what you like
53:08
now, don't you guys that accidentally.
53:11
Got into golf this year. Watching it or playing?
53:15
It series. Watching it so.
53:18
What? Yeah, so I was, I was at the gym
53:22
and the, the, the, the American, what's it called?
53:25
The The Tour, the PGA Tour, Yeah, was just on.
53:30
And. I've never liked golf.
53:33
I would, if you'd asked me, I would have said it's not a
53:35
sport. It's the at best, it's the most
53:38
boring sport there is. And I only started paying
53:41
attention because I started going and they dressed so
53:44
smartly. These golfers, you know, like
53:46
they're so old. They're a.
53:48
Nice. Narrow pant Fisher polo 2 tone
53:53
brogue shoes, little glove. I'm like, would you like to go
53:57
play golf glove? And I was like.
54:01
One glove. Love that.
54:09
Oh shit, my monitor's just gone off.
54:11
I thought I'd fix that problem, but and then I started being
54:15
like, but shame they're playing such a boring sport.
54:17
But then you start watching it every day, you know, at the gym
54:20
I go at the same time and it was always, it was always on.
54:22
And I started being like, oh, he's this guy again, Willie.
54:25
Oh, OK. He's playing a bit worse than
54:26
yesterday. OK, bad luck.
54:28
Bad luck. I'll stand here and I'll watch.
54:30
I'll watch till you get better. OK, Good.
54:31
You got it. And then I'm at home and I'm
54:33
going. Hmm.
54:34
Pop the golf on. I wonder.
54:36
Yeah, I. Might pop the golf on SO.
54:38
I watched a bit of golf this year so I sell some.
54:41
I am a bit like me with lawn. Balls.
54:44
I think the lawn balls comes on TV.
54:47
I have to watch it. This has to trump me.
54:50
I get. Into I get into a.
54:51
Middle-aged sport and he's like fuck it, I'm going straight to
54:54
the elderly person. Retired geriatric sport but do
54:57
you want to go and play a round of golf?
54:59
Because I'll happily do. That, yeah, I wouldn't mind it.
55:01
Fuck. Off if if nobody minds that I
55:04
you guys aren't allowed. To socialize.
55:05
That so much without me it's not.
55:06
Fair. They won't be in America soon.
55:11
Matt, you'll have to come home. Yeah, I suppose no offence, but
55:15
something's. Happening in your.
55:16
Country. Yeah, I'm.
55:18
Aware. I'm aware.
55:20
How many states do you have now? I'm not sure anymore.
55:26
You do. Do you have to?
55:28
You've got to include Israel. Now, I assume as a state, right?
55:31
Yeah, potentially. I mean, it's essentially.
55:33
Bankrolled by the USA at this point, I think.
55:35
Isn't it? We've got some.
55:36
You've just reminded me. We've got some news.
55:38
It's like, oh, we love talking about Israel news on this show
55:41
talk. About Israel, we don't have to
55:43
get into the politics of any of that.
55:44
Kind of stuff. I was just this, this caught my
55:46
eye and then I was like, oh, there's just something about
55:48
this that made me go oh, OK, so Brussels, there was going to be
55:52
a disturbed show, you know, disturbed the band.
55:55
Yep, Yep. They were draining.
55:57
Yeah, they were playing in. They were supposed to play in
56:00
Brussels and they've cancelled it.
56:02
They've cancelled the show. Brussels have cancelled the
56:04
show. Brussels on behalf of.
56:06
Yeah, they've said no, you're. Not allowed to play here.
56:08
Due to security concerns over David Draymond's support of
56:13
Israel. And I was like, oh, that's
56:15
interesting. Like, you know, I mean whether
56:18
you agree. To my mind, I'm not saying you
56:19
don't. Have to.
56:20
Be Jewish to support. Israel, but no taking a heart.
56:23
And I was like, Oh, well, he just said that he supports
56:25
Israel, that. Seems, you know, a lot of people
56:27
are doing that, like, you know, cancelling the show.
56:29
And then I was like, what? And then you read the article.
56:31
It's like, no, no, no, he's been over there signing the missiles
56:36
that they're launching at fucking Palestine.
56:38
Oh God. I was like, I was like, I was
56:40
like, OK, that should be extreme, like just for signing
56:44
them. Jesus.
56:45
But yeah, OK, OK, that's. I mean, look, his band is called
56:50
that is. Support.
56:52
Yeah, in a way that I. Did not expense.
56:54
I'm sorry if you saw that's going to go and kill.
56:56
People that that's like, that's very.
56:58
Strange behaviour to be honest. Yeah, this.
57:02
Mohammed signed David. Yeah, that's weird.
57:06
That's that's a weird thing to do.
57:08
And it's a weird thing to do. Yeah, AI wouldn't have thought.
57:12
He was that popular. In Israel he is.
57:17
Now, I guess I know, but you know, I mean, I mean, this is
57:19
one way to drop rock and heavy metal in in the military.
57:22
Knock on the door and go Hi can I sign some?
57:25
Missiles there are very. Twitter views visiting the IDF
57:30
and he's got photos of him. Standing there with with with
57:32
them and he's literally just signing shells and stuff.
57:35
I'm an Australian born and bred, but if somebody said to.
57:38
Me can can you guys from, you know, famous Australian podcast
57:42
multiple Nogasm, can you come and sign some missiles that were
57:45
going to fire at any country? Yeah, I'd be like it doesn't
57:49
matter. Don't think so.
57:51
No, nothing. It's not a country on earth.
57:53
I'd be. Like yeah, fuck.
57:54
If if we've got time travel back to World War 2 and they.
57:56
Said Will you sign these shows? We don't look at the Nazis?
57:59
I'd still say, you know what? I'm not comfortable with that.
58:01
Yeah, unless it was the those people firing.
58:03
Directly at Adolf Hitler, Yeah. In which case maybe I'd be like,
58:07
those are people. I'm from the future again, I
58:09
just. Think it's a very.
58:10
Strange thing to do. Regardless of who you're
58:13
launching them at anyway. So yeah, funny show.
58:18
Cancelled. Yeah, Yep.
58:21
Fair enough. Fair enough.
58:23
Honestly, that's very political. That is very political.
58:28
You know, Jerry Seinfeld saying, look, I'm a Jew, so of course
58:32
I'm pro Israel, but like, don't ask me because I, I, I don't, I
58:34
don't know the politics of and I'm not going to get into it
58:36
like it's a different thing. He hates Palestine and.
58:39
Like he never said that there's. Having an opinion.
58:41
And then there's whatever this. Is yes.
58:45
I want my name on every missile. That fucking takes out.
58:49
Or even because then it's like, OK, maybe he doesn't feel that
58:51
strongly. About it then why are you
58:53
signing the missiles? Why are you there?
58:55
They just asked you to autograph.
58:57
Some stuff, did you not? Ask them what the fuck they were
58:59
going to do with them. Like, I'll just take this
59:03
missile. Home.
59:04
Can you just? Yeah.
59:04
That's the thing, I feel like there's no, there's no way.
59:07
To spin this where it's just like, yeah, OK, that makes sense
59:09
that you did that. I've never signed an autograph
59:12
in my life. Not once.
59:13
Not ever. I have you have It was awesome
59:16
was when was in a band someone asked me.
59:18
To sign the setlist I've never signed.
59:19
I will sign the setlist. Yeah, 100% the best day of my
59:22
life. Yeah, 100%.
59:25
But it's great. But if somebody said sign, you
59:28
know my autograph book, great, of course.
59:31
Sign my T-shirt, Sure, you know, here's a sucker to sign my list.
59:36
Also fine, if you came to me with a missile and said could
59:39
you write your name on this, I'd be like, absolutely fucking not,
59:43
mate, Yeah. What are you going to do with it
59:44
then? Why no first?
59:46
Yeah, no. What are you going to do with?
59:49
It How did you get the in here? Yeah.
59:52
And. Then to be clear.
59:54
The the answer to the. What are you going to do with
59:56
that question is not going to nullify my previous answer which
59:58
is relevant. I just need to be able to tell
1:00:00
the authorities. Where this is going?
1:00:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it was not the best.
1:00:06
Day of my life I was being. Hyperbolic in case anybody's
1:00:08
gonna anyone's upset by the fact that I've ranked.
1:00:12
Yeah, signing a. Piece of paper My child are
1:00:14
listening to this podcast. Exactly.
1:00:17
Yeah, in case it's the future and Lyra's catching up on all
1:00:19
this shit ever so slightly hyperbolic.
1:00:23
Just a teeny tiny bit. Look, I want to go over into.
1:00:29
The after party Les soiree derriere.
1:00:34
But before we do, I just want to say that I watched a movie this
1:00:38
week too. It's Halloween season.
1:00:43
I try to watch horror movies in October and I watched a movie
1:00:47
called Weapons this week and it was, what's the word, very good.
1:00:54
It was very good. Excellent movie.
1:00:57
It was excellent. It was.
1:00:58
A very good. Premise, but also the payoff.
1:01:02
Not A twist or anything like that, but just the, the the
1:01:05
explanation to why crazy shit is happening was perfectly
1:01:09
satisfying in a way that, for example, if this had been a
1:01:13
Stephen King movie, the 1st 3/4 would be fucking excellent.
1:01:17
And then at the end I'd be like, OK, well, you've ruined it
1:01:19
there, but fine. Yeah, no, this was like, yeah,
1:01:22
great. Because I feel like.
1:01:24
The difference is. This started with what is the
1:01:28
base premise and then kind of teased bits out and like, OK,
1:01:32
how can we make this kind of mysterious and and compelling in
1:01:35
a way that Stephen King starts the other way around where he's
1:01:37
like, here's this big mystery and then he works his way and
1:01:40
then he gets the middle and he goes, oh, fuck, I don't know how
1:01:41
to tie this all together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:44
There you go. Nothing to do with it.
1:01:45
Something that I'm. Writing Aliens.
1:01:48
Yeah. Yeah, as I think this.
1:01:51
This works the. Other way around where it's
1:01:53
actually on paper it is more straightforward than it appears.
1:01:57
Sure, yes, sort of. And it's not a.
1:01:59
Normal movie where because you. Decide what the ending is,
1:02:03
right? No, they tell you.
1:02:06
But. They they tell the story in a
1:02:09
fragmented way. So you find out, they they drip
1:02:13
feed you information, but you already know the beginning,
1:02:18
middle and end of the story. Yeah, at the start.
1:02:22
But they just give you they. Recontextual.
1:02:24
They constantly recontextualize and it's it's very good.
1:02:29
It's got some stuff in this is so.
1:02:31
Disturbing for I'll just say, like if you're from the 80s like
1:02:36
we are and you're terrified of fucking needles as we are, there
1:02:40
are some stuff in this that's just like, Oh my God, oh man,
1:02:44
yes. Yes, I know it's not even like
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that. I'm not trying to give it a.
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Watch this week. You should very.
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Good. It's just very good if you it's
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not. Necessarily into horror movies
1:02:55
but you just like good movies. Well told stories.
1:02:58
This is 1. I wanna say one thing before we
1:03:01
go the after party on Lukes thing.
1:03:02
About Christopher Nolan, right? Yes.
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Have you heard this anecdote? This is from?
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Craig's. Podcast Craig's one of Craig's
1:03:08
friends, I forget which one. The the inception thing have you
1:03:11
did you need the story at the end?
1:03:13
You know the story. If I did, I don't remember it.
1:03:15
I I've kind of stopped. Listening to be honest, but this
1:03:18
may be from an old one they were talking about how?
1:03:20
The inception, how it's ambiguous at the end, Right,
1:03:23
right. And then one of them, maybe
1:03:25
Bruce. Oh yes, it was, you guys know,
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in LA with the editor who was working on Oppenheimer or
1:03:32
something like that, and they were having lunch.
1:03:33
And he said, oh. You know, I've got to, we could
1:03:35
have lunch and then I've got to go back to Chris's place to keep
1:03:37
editing. And he said, oh, yeah, no, I
1:03:39
love Christmas movies and that I love, you know how the ending of
1:03:41
Inception is ambiguous? And he said, do you want me to
1:03:45
ask him what the what happens at the end?
1:03:48
And he. I don't know.
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And he goes, all right. And then he said later on, he
1:03:52
got a text. He got a text from him.
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And he goes, I asked him and he said, yeah, no, those are his
1:03:56
kids. It's it's not a dream.
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And he was like, fuck, you ruined it.
1:04:00
Yeah. What did you tell me that for?
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So because I want to. Know he came to the movie.
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I'm not happy to work it out if this is true.
1:04:10
If this is true. According to Christopher Nolan,
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it's not a dream. Those are really his kids.
1:04:16
Excellent. How?
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Close. That's so funny because he point
1:04:20
was he got a text. He read it and he.
1:04:22
Was. Like, yeah.
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Right. But that's like that Japanese
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radio interview with Stanley Kubrick where the the the
1:04:30
translator's going. He's asking you what the ending
1:04:33
of 2001's about. And he's like, I'm not going to
1:04:35
tell you. It's supposed to make up your
1:04:36
own mind. He's like, she's like he doesn't
1:04:38
get understand that. He just wants you to explain the
1:04:40
ending. He goes oh fine and then just
1:04:43
explains it like he never has in any other media.
1:04:47
Like if you want. To know what that ending is,
1:04:49
just Google Japanese interview. All right, I'll have a look.
1:04:56
I love that though. Like, because back then I guess
1:04:59
they thought, oh, it's not going to air in no one or I'm in
1:05:01
Japan. Yeah, yeah.
1:05:02
No one's ever. Going to see this, they're not
1:05:04
going to invent something. It'd have to be some
1:05:06
international network. Of computers for me to be some
1:05:09
sort of tube of for. You for you, yeah.
1:05:14
Not for me. For you, I'll be dead.
1:05:17
It's it's a tube for you, something else that's.
1:05:22
For you, listener, it's the after party.
1:05:24
Yeah, and if you want, give it to you.
1:05:26
Yeah, it's it's. Available at
1:05:29
patreon.com/multiple Knickers for as little as $1.00 a month,
1:05:34
you can support the show and get the episodes early and pop into
1:05:37
the community. And then at 5 bucks a month you
1:05:39
get the after party, which is where we will continue talking
1:05:42
for about half an hour or so. You'll see, you'll see it's
1:05:45
getting like $100. You get to do.
1:05:48
Something with me. Stop offering it if you're not
1:05:51
going to. Clarify what it is, how many
1:05:53
times I told you what it is. Yes, follow through.
1:05:56
Zero times you can offer it once you know what it is OK.
1:06:01
I mean, there's, there's people. Putting money down on the.
1:06:03
Table. We've had people give you the
1:06:05
money and. They're waiting.
1:06:08
Waiting to decide what it is. No, we're not allowed to do
1:06:13
that. We're not.
1:06:14
Allowed to do that on Patreon? No, I think there's something on
1:06:17
Patreon that. Says if you promise something.
1:06:20
And. Six months pass and you haven't
1:06:22
done it. You have to suck them off.
1:06:24
Yeah, that's just that's in the terms.
1:06:26
And conditions, yeah. I mean, that's on Kickstarter,
1:06:29
right? If you don't get.
1:06:30
Like if you back a game on Kickstarter, it doesn't come
1:06:32
out. They have to come and suck you
1:06:33
off. Yeah, I owed a lot of blow.
1:06:36
Jobs then and you can't you can't say no, I don't want it
1:06:39
either because. It's a contract.
1:06:40
They have to do it. They have to.
1:06:42
They have to do it. Legally obligated to do it.
1:06:43
You have to let them, yeah. And you have to finish it says
1:06:47
it in the. So I have to let them suck me
1:06:49
off. Yeah.
1:06:50
Oh, OK then. Yeah, yeah.
1:06:53
And you have to like it. Yeah.
1:06:57
You have to like it and if you don't like it gets worse from
1:07:00
there, mate. Yeah, that's way worse.
1:07:03
Yeah, you. You want to like it?
1:07:05
Just let that be the end of it, all right?
1:07:10
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