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10-28 H1: What's On Tap, Thirst For Hirst & BEARS · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, great Wednesday morning to you all. It is the
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say hyped, and then I was
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  Speaker 1: going to say pumped, and it came out piped. But
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  Speaker 1: get piped. Yeah, if you want to get swole. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I didn't even know he noticed that. But nonetheless, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. Really good for you.
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  Speaker 8: It's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 6: It's a good way, like, you know. As long as
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  Speaker 6: They shouldn't swear. I got five minutes here. And then
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  Speaker 6: that one time someone swears, you see me pop up,
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  Speaker 6: hit the dump button, and you're like, oh, he's on it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would say you could do your push-ups during Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell without any worries. I would say you could do
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  Speaker 1: it during Al Koniski with no worries. But to do
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  Speaker 1: it during Hugh's segment, no.
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  Speaker 5: I get nervous.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. No, don't do it during
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  Speaker 1: Hugh's segment.
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  Speaker 8: I get very nervous.
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  Speaker 6: I'm down there like, God, Hugh, you're saying it freaking
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Cam Cleland gets fired up, and although he's never
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  Speaker 1: violated the rule, I wouldn't do push-ups during Cam's segments either.
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  Speaker 6: And as perfect as Hugh is like, when you have
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. Gene's territory,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that guy's ever cussed in his life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I'm on the board. We're not moving. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: great morning to you all. It's good to have you
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  Speaker 1: with us here on this Wednesday. I do want to
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  Speaker 1: at 75 and a 60 and let me go this morning.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I was really worried. I was really worried.
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  Speaker 8: Did you say you have to get to a radio show?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. He didn't let me go.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, geez.
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  Speaker 7: It's that feeling of, oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Where you just look in your rear view and you're expecting.
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  Speaker 1: Waiting for the lights.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: What was your stomach at that time?
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  Speaker 1: Not bad.
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  Speaker 7: Because I get like.
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  Speaker 1: Me too. I'm with you. Not bad. But I would
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  Speaker 1: have been a little predicament. uh, on that because, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I have a new car and I don't think I've
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  Speaker 1: changed over yet. So anyway, so anyway, thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, well, let's get it going here on the radio
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  Speaker 1: program as, um, we have a big story and it
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  Speaker 1: was a story, a breaking story that landed on our
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  Speaker 1: show at the end of the show. We were in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of a perfectly, uh, awesome conversation about s'mores
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  Speaker 1: or wieners um it was awesome all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: we get an alert that uh there's been a trade
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  Speaker 1: but not some minor trade um when andrews first interrupted
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  Speaker 1: me i said this better be newsworthy because this s'mores
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  Speaker 1: wieners stuff is gold Yeah. So this better be I
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  Speaker 1: better be being interrupted for a great reason. And it
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  Speaker 1: turns out you should have interrupted me three minutes earlier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just that the even if it was even
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  Speaker 1: if it would have cost us the entire s'mores wiener conversation.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a good trade off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Maybe the balance of the two. Just
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  Speaker 1: like at your campfire, you want the balance of the two.
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  Speaker 1: You do want to have your hot dog and then
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  Speaker 1: your s'mores. You want them both. But we are having
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  Speaker 1: a conversation about either. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: John Schneider drops another trade bomb on us. We should
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  Speaker 1: have known. It's trading deadline time, and we have the GM,
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  Speaker 1: the GM in the National Football League that makes sure
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  Speaker 1: he delivers something special every single year for this fan base,
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  Speaker 1: for this franchise. I love the way he operates at
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  Speaker 1: the trading deadline. I think it's better than any other
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  Speaker 1: general manager in any other sport. the way that he
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  Speaker 1: saves cap space so that he can make that move
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  Speaker 1: that either one assesses where the need is that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't know we had a need there. Because that's one way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a league, let's face it, where
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  Speaker 1: injuries do kind of dictate what kind of season you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have. And so if you sit back and
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  Speaker 1: you wait and try to identify your weakness in the September,
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  Speaker 1: it might not be the same thing as it is
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  Speaker 1: in late October. And so he always, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: always playing. He always leaves that cap space so that
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  Speaker 1: he can make that move to assess the biggest hole
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  Speaker 1: or a little bit of both here. Or you can
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  Speaker 1: just get that one guy that you love, that guy
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  Speaker 1: that you covet, that guy that maybe you don't have
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  Speaker 1: a hole, but you just feel, man, we have an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to get someone special. that we might not have
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  Speaker 1: this opportunity in the offseason. We didn't have it this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts thought they were going to be really
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  Speaker 1: good this year, so they certainly weren't going to trade
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  Speaker 1: away their best offensive linemen. But all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: they become sellers, and while everybody in the nation is
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  Speaker 1: talking about how the Seahawks need a running back, we
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  Speaker 1: just need to improve our running game. Let's go get
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  Speaker 1: the best interior blocking offensive linemen in the entire National
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  Speaker 1: Football League. a Hall of Famer, a legend who's still
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  Speaker 1: maybe not in his prime. I mean, he's eight years
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of football, but he's still ranked number
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  Speaker 1: one guard in all of the national football league by
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  Speaker 1: pro football focus. And he is considered to be the
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  Speaker 1: best blocker in the outside zone scheme that we employ.
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  Speaker 1: And so here's John Schneider. And I said it last week,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mention it. I didn't spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time on it. I said, everybody's going to think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to go running back. And if I know John,
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  Speaker 1: he'll probably go for Quentin Nelson. And he went for
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  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson yesterday. So big blockbuster trade right in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the most meaningful conversation in the history of KJR.
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  Speaker 1: And yet it was worth it to find out that
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  Speaker 1: Nelson was acquired in exchange for a third round pick
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  Speaker 1: this year, a fifth round pick next year. And even
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  Speaker 1: though it didn't look like some big glaring need, I
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  Speaker 1: think it certainly makes this team better, more formidable. And
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  Speaker 1: the San Francisco 49ers didn't wait too long to try
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  Speaker 1: to counter that.
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  Speaker 7: No, they did not.
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  Speaker 1: By going to get DeForest Buckner. And I think there
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  Speaker 1: are a couple teams that were probably kicking themselves for
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  Speaker 1: not being more aggressive toward getting Quentin Nelson. Because I
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  Speaker 1: would think a lot of teams had a bigger need
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  Speaker 1: on their offensive line than what the Seahawks have right
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  Speaker 1: now that consider themselves contenders. And because we've got the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's best, he doesn't sit there and... monkey around
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  Speaker 1: with this stuff. I'm not going to wait to the
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  Speaker 1: very end of the deadline. If I can get him
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  Speaker 1: now for the price point that I want him at,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get him right now. So we have
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  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson and you don't National Football League. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a glorious, glorious day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And I think the Niners were one of those teams.
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  Speaker 9: They were looking at some offensive line help. So they
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  Speaker 9: were like, dang it. All right, let's quickly shift into
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  Speaker 9: You know, the defensive line, and they obviously make the
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  Speaker 9: buck in a trade. But I just want to say
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  Speaker 9: a quick thank you to Daniel Jones, because the Giants
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  Speaker 9: thought they were in competition mode in 2023 when they
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  Speaker 9: traded for Leonard Williams, and then that Them being bad
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  Speaker 9: because they had Daniel Jones at quarterback allowed the Seahawks
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  Speaker 9: to trade for Leonard Williams. And then the same thing
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  Speaker 9: happened with the Colts in 2026. They thought they were
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  Speaker 9: in contention mode with Daniel Jones. And thanks to Daniel
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  Speaker 9: Jones being their quarterback, they were not. So we trade
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  Speaker 9: for Quentin Nelson. So we get two of our best
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  Speaker 9: players because of Daniel freaking Jones.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? Very interesting. You know something, Daniel, go
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  Speaker 1: play for the Cardinals next.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We'd like Trey McBride in two years.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's do that. Let's absolutely do that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe go play for the Rams. Make them better.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and look, I mean, I think overwhelmingly what I saw,
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  Speaker 1: what I heard yesterday, um, I mean, there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shows that weren't focused on this. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that I thought was kind of dumb. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: talking to locally. I'm just talking about just my entire,
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  Speaker 1: of course, like sports consumption, uh, that I did yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a show called NFL live
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  Speaker 1: and you didn't spend more than a couple minutes on this, uh, What?
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  Speaker 1: Bad decisions. But those that did spend time on it
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  Speaker 1: seem to believe that the Seahawks got a steal. I
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  Speaker 1: did see a couple of, hmm, I'm kind of surprised
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks did that. I even saw a, hey, or
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  Speaker 1: more than one, a more than a, hey. I know
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  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson's a really good player and the Seahawks got
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  Speaker 1: a really good player, but good on the Colts for
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  Speaker 1: recognizing where they are and considering that it was an
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  Speaker 1: expiring contract on a player that wasn't going to return
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  Speaker 1: to them. Yeah. To get two picks out of that
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  Speaker 1: was pretty good move on their part.
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  Speaker 4: Fine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I mean, these trades, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fans want to be able to steal
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  Speaker 1: a trade. To me, I hope both teams get something
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  Speaker 1: out of a deal. Agreed. And the Indianapolis Colts, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to get two picks, a third and a fifth.
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  Speaker 1: It's another thing to get the right guys. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they were getting them under Chris Ballard. They'll
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  Speaker 1: have a new GM going forward. But this is the
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  Speaker 1: type of move that they need to make right now.
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  Speaker 1: And for the Seahawks to be able to take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of that, I have no problem, Anders, giving up a
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  Speaker 1: third-rounder and a fifth-rounder next year. This team's going to
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  Speaker 1: have 11 draft picks, it looks like, for this next draft.
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  Speaker 1: And 2028, you've still got time to bolster your... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: John will probably trade one of those 10 remaining drafts
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  Speaker 1: picks that he'll have for something in 2028 to offset that.
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  Speaker 1: But I have zero, zero problem with the price point
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  Speaker 1: for getting maybe the best interior offensive lineman in the world.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 9: And I don't think it's a quote unquote steal in
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  Speaker 9: terms of like, man, what are the Colts doing?
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  Speaker 7: Just doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's a steal, even though I see,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Colts got out of it, what they
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  Speaker 1: can get out of it. But I do think that
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  Speaker 1: this is, if not, steal against the Colts. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a steal against everybody else that was in contention.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 7: I agree with that for sure.
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  Speaker 9: I think if, if you're a, a team that needs
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  Speaker 9: some offensive line help that you feel like you're in
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  Speaker 9: a contention window, you're, you're kicking yourself like, dang, we
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  Speaker 9: couldn't have given up two picks for the best one.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 9: So I, I agree with you on that part, but
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  Speaker 9: from the Seattle Colts perspective in terms of who won
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  Speaker 9: the trade or anything like that, the Colts needed to
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  Speaker 9: do this. They can't, He's an expiring contract. He's going
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  Speaker 9: to be a free agent at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 9: Getting two picks out of that, I think both things
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  Speaker 9: can be true. It's absolutely worth it for the Seattle Seahawks,
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  Speaker 9: and they feel like they got one of the best players,
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  Speaker 9: if not the best player, at that position for a
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  Speaker 9: couple mid-round selections. And the Colts were like, yeah, we
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  Speaker 9: needed to do it. We're not in a contention window anymore.
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  Speaker 9: We're getting a new GM. We needed to make sure
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  Speaker 9: we got something out of it. And you're not starting
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  Speaker 9: a rebuild with a 30-year-old guard.
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  Speaker 7: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 9: And it's a win-win trade, to be completely honest. And
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  Speaker 9: I'm with you. I don't necessarily think we need to
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  Speaker 9: win every single trade we do. I think a lot
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  Speaker 9: of GMs and fans feel like they need to. But
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  Speaker 9: it's all about doing what's best for you in the
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  Speaker 9: moment right now. And the Seahawks are in a contention
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  Speaker 9: Super Bowl window. They can give up. A couple picks
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  Speaker 9: in which they have a ton of them next year
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  Speaker 9: to go get a guy that would absolutely help your
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  Speaker 9: team this year and hopefully for years to come.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best for where you are with the state
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  Speaker 1: of your franchise. And our franchise, fortunately, you're in the
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  Speaker 1: better prime position of we're trying to win another Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to go back-to-back on this thing. And it's
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  Speaker 1: the type of thing that an aggressive general manager who's
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  Speaker 1: not satisfied, who's not satiated by winning just two Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowls in his career... And just because he won one
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  Speaker 1: a few months ago, it's an absolute sign that you
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  Speaker 1: better believe that we will do. We'll turn over every
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  Speaker 1: rock and stone to go back to back on this sucker.
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  Speaker 1: And I love it. I love it. I love it
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  Speaker 1: for the team. Now it does create another monster question.
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  Speaker 1: Where does he play? Our assumption is there's no way
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  Speaker 1: that you're going to take a guy who's best at
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  Speaker 1: the league at what he does and is steeped in that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't some rookie.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't some rookie left guard out of Georgia that
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  Speaker 1: can't be moved. This is a 30-year-old, like one of
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  Speaker 1: the best left guards in the history of football type players.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to move him. So it is... going
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  Speaker 1: to be Gray's able that gets moved and certainly not
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  Speaker 1: out of the starting lineup. So in the coming days,
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  Speaker 1: we'll try to figure out before Monday. where Gray Zabel's
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  Speaker 1: going to play on the offensive line, who's going to
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  Speaker 1: be removed from the starting lineup. And I would think
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  Speaker 1: that you've got three candidates. Actually, you've got four candidates.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know when Charles Cross is going
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  Speaker 1: to be back. I would assume Josh Jones takes over
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  Speaker 1: in that role. I don't know if he'd go Zabel
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  Speaker 1: left guard to left tackle like that, but who knows?
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: But Gray Zabel, one of the keys to his entire
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: draft process and draft profile is, I mean, we did Draftmas.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: We invented it, and it's the greatest holiday on earth.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: So we did Draftmas, and I distinctly remember that we
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: put him in the Draftmas catalog. As a center, because
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that's the way they were talking about him in the offseason,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: in the draft process, at the draft combine. He was
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: being listed as a center, even though he played more
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: guard and tackle at the collegiate level there at North
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Dakota State. I don't know if that, I'm not saying
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: that he's going to replace Sundell. Matter of fact, I
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: would doubt that. But I'm just trying to describe the
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: versatility of this player. And he played tackle in his
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: last year, and he played guard earlier. So I think
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: he's just a terrific young offensive lineman. And he's very smart.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: And I think that he can probably improve any of
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the other three positions from what you have right now.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll find out more from Greg coming
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: up at 7.05 what he's hearing. But that's a good
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: problem to have. I mean, too bad for whoever's playing
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: time gets cut. Sorry about it. But that's not how
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: John's going to operate. He's going to operate with... I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: got a chance to get Quentin Nelson... I'm going to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: get him. Yeah. And I'm going to get him for
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: pennies on the dollar because he has an expiring contract.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And because everybody that comes here right now, everybody that
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: goes to Renton, everybody goes to the V Mac, everybody
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: plays for Mike McDonald. Everybody that plays in the Seahawks
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: organization seems to absolutely get one over by it within
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a week or two. Um, maybe there's a chance to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: get him on a cheaper deal and keep him here
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: beyond this season. So to me, it's just win-win all
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: around for the Seahawks. And, um, Whether that was the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: biggest hole on the team, I don't care. You improved
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: your football team yesterday by adding an elite player. Yeah.
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: And, you know, it's kind of a situation where you
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: get the elite player and you figure the rest out later.
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: That's what I kind of feel like John Schneider was thinking.
• 17:37
  Speaker 9: It's just like I don't care what it means for
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: everything else. I need to get this player on my
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: team and to get him. Because I feel like it's probably,
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: I think, the best way to upgrade your running game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: I think it would be more of an upgrade of
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: your running game than getting a running back.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: To be completely honest.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they're trying to... I think that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the message that they're sending. Plus, you know, he's stubborn. Yeah,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: he is. And he also doesn't want to admit with
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all of the national conversation about his running backs that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: his running back room can't get the job done. So
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: now I'm going to get just a pile driver at
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: left guard and look how much better... I don't need
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to make, I don't need, it's not going to make
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: them and it's not going to turn them overnight into
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, but if I can make their jobs easier,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: it will make them look better. And now all of
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a sudden, all of you people that think that I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: blew the Ken Walker thing, you can shove it where
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it don't shine. So it's a creative way to improve
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: a subpar running game to this point in the season. And,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and I think it's just a spectacular trade. I mean,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like if the Mariners would have had
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a chance at Tarek Skubal with a third and a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: fifth round pick. Right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Who cares if your strength is starting pitching? You just improve.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: You got a chance to get a guy at a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: rate that you can live with that makes you better,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and then you deal with the ramifications of that on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the backside. All right, well, we're going to talk more
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: about it later on in the show. As a matter
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of fact, we are going to hear a little bit
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: from our experts on a Wednesday, both of them here
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: at the station. So let's find out what's on tap.
• 19:15
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• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Bumsy way to say Hugh Millen's going to join us
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: today on a rare Wednesday appearance. Nobody's going to go
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to the film room, and we could try to reach
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: out to someone else who's different, but is anybody going
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to give us the analysis that Hugh's going to give us?
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Nope.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you he went right into this cave yesterday
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and broke down every play Quentin Nelson's ever made. made
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: since he was in peewee football. So we'll get him
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: on at eight o'clock, get his thoughts on Quentin Nelson.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And of course. Greg will join us at 7.05, what
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: went into the trade and what the plan is with
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the offensive line going forward. Whatever information Greg has, he'll
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: spill at 7.05. 49ers did acquire another Indianapolis Colt yesterday
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for a fourth-rounder DeForest Buckner, a very good defensive lineman
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: who they've had on their roster before, so he's back
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Colt's fire sale is obvious at this point.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: They're not done. We still have a little less than
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: two weeks from the NFL trading deadline. Jonathan Taylor, it
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: sounds like they're going to try to keep from what
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: we're hearing now, but pretty much everything else that's not
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: pinned down is going to go. We'll talk about that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: with our Waiver Wire Wednesday segment at 7.30. Hump Day,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, by now we would have already been 20
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: minutes deep into Chicago Bears analysis, but when you make
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a blockbuster trade, you lead with that the next morning. So,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Seahawks Bears, we do have an extra day to analyze
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: this game. We'll get into it a little bit. It
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is a Monday Night Football affair, so we'll talk about
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams specifically today. and our hump day episode of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Chuck in the mornings, college football, Huskies heading to Lincoln
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to take on Nebraska Saturday night. Cam Cleland will join
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: us today at nine o'clock and week nine, kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the week that could have been in college football. I mean,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, this was shaping up
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to be one of the better weeks of college football,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but because of the parody that we've seen so far
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in this college football season, some of the teams we
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: expected to be great. Aren't so great. Like Oregon, um, Well,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Oregon plays Ohio State next week, but they'll face Northwestern
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: this week. But Ohio State-USC, I mean, that was expected
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to be a monster of a game, and maybe it's
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: not as sexy as it once was, and there are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a few others. like that throughout the college football landscape.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Same thing with next week. World Series, the Rays stayed
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: alive last night with a 12-inning comeback, another sensational game
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in the World Series. And so we will have a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: game five tonight back in Tampa. The Miz is going
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to start for Milwaukee. They're going to have four opportunities
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to close this thing out. So people that dared to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: suggest on my drive this morning that all the pressure
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: is now on Milwaukee, Do you just not know sports?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Do you just not get anything?
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, what on earth?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You're a sports talk show host. Shouldn't you know something
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: about sports?
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: The momentum has changed.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Mariners managerial search apparently down to two guys. Neither of
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: them you're going to like. Kraken are taking on the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Leafs tonight. Sounders are taking on the Houston Dynamo, so
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it is match day tonight. For the Sounders, as I mentioned,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Game 5 of the World Series will be played tonight
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: as well. So a very busy night in sports. And
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: WNBA Finals Game 6 tomorrow morning at 9.30 as the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Golden State Valkyries can close things out on a Thursday
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: afternoon in Atlanta, Georgia tomorrow. That in and of itself
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is a very interesting story there. But as we get
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: started here on this day, It is now in its
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: new segment, and I think it's permanent time. We're going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to have a thirst, I'm sure. A thirst. A thirst
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: for Anders Hurst. It's coming your way next on Sports
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR FM. A thirst for Anders Hurst. What
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: do you got?
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Welcome.
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: I hope this cleanses your palate, so to speak.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: We'll be the judge of that. Okay.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: I guess you will. Let's start with the Mariners' managerial search.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Whoa. All right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: It is widely reported, as you mentioned earlier, the Mariners
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: search has reached its final two names, Joe Espada and
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: Jason Kanzler. I admittedly don't know anything about Kanzler or
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: like it's just he's kind of a relatively unknown to
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: me about what he brings to the table. So I'll
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: save the speculation on him. But I wanted to talk
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: about Joe Espada for a second. It's an interesting case
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: study because while the obvious arrival fired him and his
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: fans wanted him out is a red flag for sure.
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: I do also think on the surface, looking at the
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: rosters he had in the past three seasons, getting 88,
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: 87 and 81 wins, I think is better than that
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: roster is, to be completely honest. So getting more out
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: of the players that you have. is a quality that
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: I want in a man in an MLB manager. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that he'd be my first choice or
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: anything like that. Um, but I'm not writing him off
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: as a competent manager because he didn't win 90 games
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: for a team that should have been rebuilding three years ago. Uh,
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: he kind of staved off, stoved off, staved off that, um,
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: that process with Houston because he was able to kind
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: of get more out of that roster than they really
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: should have been. They've had zero pitching, a bunch of injuries.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: I know they had Jordan Alvarez, uh, in his likely
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: MVP season last year.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I like your premise, but I think your facts are off.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: This was not a rebuilding team by any stretch. Maybe
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: this year. Maybe this year they were facing that. And
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: they did not have zero pitching. They had Frambois Valdez
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and Hunter Brown each of the last two years, which
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: were all-star caliber pitchers. And that's just those two alone.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not even recalling other guys that they had to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: fill in the cracks. I don't think he overachieved with
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that roster the last three years. I don't think that
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he grossly underachieved with it. They were admittedly sort of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: hitting harder times, but there was, I mean, we took
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the division from them two years ago. And the previous
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: year from that, they were supposed to win the division easily.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that your facts are right. I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: think the Astros expected to be better in each of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the last three years than they actually were. But it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: not like they had some tank 70 wins, 75 win
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: season like we did a year ago. I don't think
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he did as bad a job as Dan Wilson did
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: last year, I'll tell you that much.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess I just see it a little bit differently. I've... admittedly,
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: for the last three years, been like, all right, this
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: is the year the Astros fall off the face of
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: the earth. Kind of like what you were saying about
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: the 49ers. All right, this is the year the Astros
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: fall off the face of the earth and they finally
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: hit rock bottom or go into rebuild mode. And they
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: haven't done that. I'm not saying that the reason is
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: because of Joe Espada, but I just feel like looking
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: at that roster, it's been aging.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: They just kind of... What's the.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: very like on a whim traded for Carlos Correa because
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: they were desperate for any sort of situation in 2025
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: to kind of get them back in that mode.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: It just seemed like maybe he didn't necessarily, um, grossly
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: outperform expectations, but I do think that there wasn't necessarily
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: a underperformance either.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, there's not a lot of great
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: experience candidates out there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Um, I mean, at one point, Joe Espada was thought
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of highly. Yeah. My only argument to it is that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: no one's going to like it. You might, it sounds like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, the fan base, it's not going
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to move the needle for the fan base. No, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: understand that. And the other guy, forget about it. Because
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that's a complete unknown to most people. Zero managerial experience
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: at any level. And the same old criticisms of Jerry
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and Justin and John are going to come out if
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you hire that guy. They're going to take a PR hit.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just bottom line. They're going to take
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a PR hit. And I'm not sure which one I'd
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: rather have. I mean, I guess on paper, Espada seems
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like with a little bit of managerial experience, a slight
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: upgrade over Dan. But on the other hand, if you're
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: not going to give me a proven manager that knows
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: how to win a championship for a third time in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a row. Then maybe I do just want to, hey,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: go with your gut.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Take a shot.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And if you go down, go down in flames as
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a front office. And so because I don't think a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: spot is going to move the needle any more than
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what Kanzler. Yeah, no.
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: And as I mentioned, I don't it wouldn't be my
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: first choice. I wouldn't necessarily be jumping on, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: jumping for joy if that was announced today or tomorrow
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: or whatever. But I just I'm waiting to fully judge
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: until tomorrow. um you know we at least at least
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: with him even if it's not with the mariners that
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: you know that outcome before we see a little bit
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: more from that besides him just being the houston manager
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: all right uh sticking with baseball for a second rapid
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: fire through here world series just want to get on
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: my soapbox just because it's two small market teams and
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: even if it doesn't go six or seven games that
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: does not mean it was a bad world series period
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: just i want to stop that take from everyone that's
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: telling me that oh what a crappy world series.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: That's my reckless at breakfast topic.
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm sorry. We'll get more into it a little later.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: Cause I have two more, um, Quentin Nelson. If the
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: Seahawks made the Quentin Nelson deal in the off season,
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks would have been in the same super team
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: conversation with the Rams. That's how significant of an acquisition
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: this is.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: Woo.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think a guard does that. Like an edge
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: rusher does that. Agreed. Um, I think it's an interesting
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: point that you bring up. Nobody else has brought up
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that point. I don't think that two plus two equals
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: four on that. But I get what you're saying.
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying it would have outdone what the Rams
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: hype was going into the season because it was, well,
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: it was a lot.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: But I feel like it would have at least.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: Nobody would have been saying the Seahawks are going undefeated. No,
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: no one would say that. But I would at least
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: have been in like. similar conversations of, oh man, the
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: Seahawks and Rams loading up, the rich get richer sort
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: of situation.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: That's it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: They would have said, the rich get richer. Oh, geez,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: now they've added Quentin Nelson.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But it wouldn't have been the runaway... train totally that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the Rams offseason ended.
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: Up all right last one here soccer second as I
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: like to call it and someone think it's a second
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: too long Harry Kane was announced as the Ballon d'Or
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: winner which is the equivalent to soccer's MVP.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the group that Harry Potter was in Ballon
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: d'Or if I'm not mistaken.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah Ballon d'Or for Dumbledore something like that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that the group I might not know my Harry Potter. No,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it's OK.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: You're thinking of Dumbledore's Army, the D.A.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm thinking.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It just sounded like a Harry Potter. Well, Ballon d'Or
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is French.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Ballon d'Or.
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: He had a fantastic season for Bayern Munich in England.
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: There are some in the soccer world that are upset
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: because he neither won the Champions League or the World Cup,
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: went to the semifinal in both of those competitions. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: the last few years, due to a lack of truly
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: dominant player we've seen in the previous decade and a half,
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: it has seemed like whoever won the Champions League or
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: World Cup, the voters just took the best player from
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: whoever won those competitions and called it a day. I
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: am very glad that wasn't the case this year. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: the result was clearly just the best player in soccer
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: who won the award, not whoever was on that winning team.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: We can kind of apply that logic to all the
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: MVP talk and every other sport. But, um, I just
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: want to point out one more fact here from 2008
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: to 2023, 15 seasons, because there was no award given
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: in 2020, 13 of the 15 were either one by
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo and, We will never see
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: dominance like that ever again in soccer. And the fact
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: that they are obviously past their primes now, it's been
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: tougher to find a truly dominant player in soccer. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: I'm glad they kind of went with just the best
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: player instead of the guy who was on the winning team.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to have to trust you on that one.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: That wet my whistle. Yep, all right. Just out of
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  Speaker 1: All right, headlines at the top of the hour. Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell's going to join us at 7.05, but it is
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  Speaker 1: a hump day, and so we start our conversation about
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  Speaker 1: We did. Yeah, I already talked about it. I already
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  Speaker 1: is hump day. Normally we would have already started this
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  Speaker 1: conversation about the Bears, but a couple of things. It's
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  Speaker 1: not every day that you trade for the best guard
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League, so that ended up being
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  Speaker 1: our top story. Secondly, we've got an extra day to
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  Speaker 1: prepare for the Chicago Bears because the game's going to
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  Speaker 1: when it is a Monday night football game or a
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Football games. So that said, I do
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  Speaker 1: want to at least start that conversation now. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that with the Chicago Bears, and I think they're
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good team all around. I think people sleep
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  Speaker 1: on their defense because they think so highly of Ben
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  Speaker 1: Johnson and the offense and Ben Johnson's going to get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of. conversation and it's going to be one
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  Speaker 1: heck of a matchup probably the best young offensive mind
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League well it's not like Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan and Sean McVay are old but he certainly forced
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  Speaker 1: his way into the conversation with those two guys which
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  Speaker 1: is quite an accomplishment from Ben Johnson versus I think
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  Speaker 1: undoubtedly the best defensive mind right now in the game
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  Speaker 1: in Mike McDonald so that's going to be fascinating a
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  Speaker 1: huge story angle for this game and But Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 1: is who first comes to mind. And I've already asked
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  Speaker 1: Greg this, so I won't ask him about it today.
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  Speaker 1: I will ask you about it at some point before
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  Speaker 1: Monday morning or Monday night. But the ability of Caleb
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  Speaker 1: Williams to play off schedule, you know, is that going
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  Speaker 1: to work to Mike McDonald's advantage as a defensive expert?
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  Speaker 1: That Because let's face it, guys that are good at
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  Speaker 1: working off schedule, Russell Wilson was the great example, love
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  Speaker 1: to work off schedule. And sometimes it creates bad moments
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  Speaker 1: for the teams. And so even though he's terrific at
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  Speaker 1: it and Russell was fantastic at it, if you can
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  Speaker 1: get him to be confused and sort of pull the
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  Speaker 1: rip cord and the parachute comes out on the play
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  Speaker 1: frequently well that's what leads you to more pickoffs and
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  Speaker 1: that's what leads you to more second and 21s that
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  Speaker 1: you might be able to get to but also for
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  Speaker 1: all of us that know when the quarterbacks that play
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  Speaker 1: off script i mean russell also killed a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams doing that as well and caleb is exceptional at
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  Speaker 1: it there's no question he's can throw off platform, which
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  Speaker 1: is different than off script. Patrick Mahomes is probably the
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  Speaker 1: most famous. And so one might argue, well, we've got
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  Speaker 1: a great example. We just beat that guy. But Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: even though he can throw from all sorts of different
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  Speaker 1: angles and he's great when he's improvising, He plays within
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  Speaker 1: the system. That's something that gets missed on Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: Totally agree. He is devoted to the system. It just
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  Speaker 1: so happens that if the play does break down, he's
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  Speaker 1: exceptional at it. And one of the reasons he's exceptional
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  Speaker 1: at it is because he doesn't do it too much.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, you could probably coax into doing it every play.
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  Speaker 1: He'd probably welcome that. He loves doing that. And so
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  Speaker 1: does that make you vulnerable? to his abilities, his maybe
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  Speaker 1: one-of-a-kind right now in the National Football League abilities to improvise,
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  Speaker 1: or is it exactly what Mike McDonald wants to create
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  Speaker 1: Monday night because that plays right into his hand? I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the answer to that. Hugh would probably have
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  Speaker 1: a better answer than I would because I don't have
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  Speaker 1: one at all. I'm not sure who it would benefit,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it's the Seahawks. I'm guessing if you can...
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  Speaker 1: continuously confuse him to where he bails on the play consistently,
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  Speaker 1: you will live with the one or two or three
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  Speaker 1: big plays that he creates out of that because all
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the plays, he's probably playing right into
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  Speaker 1: your hands.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think if you look at the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 9: that have had more success against the Seahawks in the
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  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald tenure, it has been the Josh Owens, Matthew Staffords,
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  Speaker 9: Guys that can kind of do.
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  Speaker 7: That, right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they are also the best.
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  Speaker 7: They are just the best. It's hard to really say
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  Speaker 7: any other thing, yes.
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  Speaker 9: But I think as of right now, and you mentioned
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  Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes, it might be weird to say, but I
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  Speaker 9: think Caleb Williams right now is a better quarterback than
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  Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes. If you were to say, go beat me
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  Speaker 9: right now, I would... Fear, I get not fear, but
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  Speaker 9: I would be a little more concerned about that being
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  Speaker 9: Caleb Williams because of his trajectory compared to Patrick Mahomes'
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  Speaker 9: trajectory at this point in his career. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 9: anything about career long, but right now, 2026 in October,
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  Speaker 9: I think it's Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's got more proving to do to be
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that way.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes been pretty good this year. He's been good.
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  Speaker 1: He just looked bad against us. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So I think he's got a little more
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  Speaker 1: to prove than that. I think Mike McDonald's going to
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  Speaker 1: welcome like this guy. We're going to, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: just throw different looks at him. We're going to confuse
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of him. We're going to get him
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  Speaker 1: to bail on plays faster than he'll ever bail on plays,
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  Speaker 1: which he has a pension to do for anyway. And
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  Speaker 1: that's going to play right into our hands. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: live with a couple of gashes deep down the field
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  Speaker 1: because those are unavoidable. He is going to make some
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  Speaker 1: plays against you. Those are unavoidable. But if we can
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  Speaker 1: spend four hours getting this guy confused and bailing on
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  Speaker 1: what Ben Johnson's calling, that's going to play right into
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  Speaker 1: our defense's hands. And we've got some pretty savvy defensive
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  Speaker 1: backs back there that would do nothing more than to
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  Speaker 1: feast off of a confused Caleb Williams. All right, headlines next.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bell's next on KJR.