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- Lucas: So the U.S. just announced a 25% tariff on most Brazilian goods. That landed this morning, and it's a big deal for anyone thinking about global supply chains right now. Luna: Twenty-five percent across the board on essentially all Brazilian imports? That's aggressive. Lucas: Yeah, the official line is 'unfair trade practices.' The U.S. Trade Representative cited Brazil's intellectual property protections and its subsidies for domestic manufacturers. But the timing is interesting — this comes as the U.S. trade deficit widened to 77.6 billion in May, and Brazil runs a pretty hefty surplus with the U.S. Lucas: And look, we're able to dig into stories like this because a small group of listeners chips in monthly through Buy Me a Coffee dot com slash Fexingo. That's literally what keeps this show ad-free and allows us to cover cross-border trade moves as they happen. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, that's the link. Luna: Yeah, it's a lean operation, and every bit helps us keep the focus on substance over headlines. Lucas: So back to the tariff. The immediate question is what gets hit hardest. Brazil's top exports to the U.S. are soybeans, crude oil, iron ore, aircraft — Embraer planes — and beef. That's about forty billion dollars in trade annually. A 25% tariff effectively prices Brazilian soy out of the U.S. market unless global prices spike. Luna: Right, because U.S. farmers already produce a lot of soy. So this is less about filling a gap and more about punishing Brazil. But what about iron ore? The U.S. doesn't have huge domestic production. Lucas: True. Vale is the big Brazilian miner, and U.S. steel mills rely on Brazilian iron ore for about a quarter of their feedstock. A 25% tax on that input raises costs for American steelmakers. So there's a domestic pain point too. Luna: And Embraer — that's a direct competitor to Boeing in the regional jet market. So there's a geopolitical layer. Lucas: Exactly. Embraer is Brazil's crown jewel aerospace company. Hitting it with a tariff makes it harder for them to compete with Bombardier and Airbus in the U.S. market. The U.S. is Embraer's single biggest market — about a third of their revenue. Luna: So what's the expected retaliation? Brazil's government has already signaled they'll go to the WTO and impose counter-tariffs on U.S. goods. Historically, Brazil targets American ethanol, pharmaceuticals, and machinery. Lucas: Right. Brazil is the world's second-largest ethanol producer, so a tariff on U.S. ethanol would actually help Brazilian producers. But it would also raise fuel costs in Brazil. And if they target American machinery, that hurts Brazilian farmers and manufacturers who depend on imports. Luna: So it's a lose-lose in the short term, but the administration seems willing to absorb some pain for the sake of leverage. Lucas: Yeah. And this fits a broader pattern. We've seen tariffs on China, on Europe in some sectors, now on Brazil. The U.S. is increasingly using tariffs as a tool to rebalance perceived unfair advantages. The trade-weighted dollar index is at 120.5, down slightly from last week, but still high — that makes U.S. exports more expensive globally, so tariffs are one way to try to narrow the trade deficit. Luna: But the deficit actually widened to 77.6 billion in May. So the strategy hasn't worked so far. Lucas: It hasn't. And economists argue that tariffs can shrink deficits with specific countries but often just shift sourcing. For example, if Brazilian soy gets priced out, U.S. buyers might turn to Argentine or Indian soy. But those sources might be more expensive, so the overall trade deficit might not shrink. Luna: And what about the broader impact on multinationals operating in Brazil? Companies like Ford, GM, and Amazon have big operations there. Are they caught in the middle? Lucas: They are. Many U.S. multinationals treat Brazil as a manufacturing hub for Latin America. If they export finished goods back to the U.S., they now face the tariff. So they might consider shifting production to Mexico or other countries. The Mexico ETF, EWW, is up 1.5% this week — partly on nearshoring expectations. Luna: So the tariff could actually accelerate the nearshoring trend we've been tracking — pushing more manufacturing from Brazil to Mexico or Southeast Asia. Lucas: Right. And Brazil's own currency, the real, has weakened against the dollar over the past year. That usually makes their exports cheaper, but a 25% tariff more than offsets that. So Brazilian exporters are in a tough spot. Luna: What about the sentiment in Brazil? Are investors freaking out? Lucas: The Brazil ETF, EWZ, is up 2.6% this week, actually. That's partly because the tariff was widely expected — there were rumors for weeks. Markets might be pricing in a negotiated settlement. Historically, tariff disputes between the U.S. and Brazil have led to talks rather than prolonged trade wars. Luna: So what's the timeline? Retaliation usually happens within weeks, then there's a cooling-off period. Lucas: Yeah, I'd expect Brazil to announce counter-tariffs within the next thirty days. Then both sides might come to the table. The U.S. wants concessions on intellectual property and market access for American tech firms. Brazil wants to protect its industrial base. There's room for a deal, but the rhetoric is escalating. Luna: And in the meantime, companies with supply chains through Brazil need to model two scenarios: a protracted tariff regime, or a quick resolution. Either way, they should be diversifying suppliers. Lucas: Exactly. The smart play right now is to assume the tariff stays for at least six months. That means auditing your supply chain for Brazilian inputs and finding alternatives. For agricultural buyers, that might mean more Argentine soy. For steelmakers, it might mean more Canadian or Australian iron ore. Luna: And for aerospace, Embraer might have to absorb some of the cost or eat into margins. They can't easily move production. Lucas: No, aircraft manufacturing is deeply embedded in Brazil. Embraer has plants in São José dos Campos and other cities. They could shift some final assembly to the U.S. — they already have a facility in Florida — but that takes years and billions. Luna: So this is really a test of how much leverage the U.S. has in bilateral trade. Brazil is a big economy, but it's not China. Lucas: Right. Brazil's GDP is about two trillion dollars, compared to China's eighteen trillion. So the asymmetry is clear. But Brazil is a critical supplier of raw materials and agricultural goods. Disrupting that flow has real costs for U.S. consumers and manufacturers. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next quarter. Luna: Yeah, we'll be watching the trade balance data and the real exchange rate closely. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. That's it for today's episode of International Business with Fexingo.