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- 0:02Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode
- 0:06number fifty two of the so called Sports Analysts. Josh, how you doing.
- 0:11I'm doing pretty good man? You know, actually I'm not doing good.
- 0:15Sad to say our Queen Cameron Brink to her Aco. We've just got
- 0:19to give our condolences to that. I don't know if Fonso was doing great.
- 0:24He has a stalker. Now. So we're here, you know,
- 0:27like we're about it. We're about to We're about to do this podcast talk
- 0:32about how the how the finals ended, you know, and see what the
- 0:36predictions are for free agency in the draft. Yeah. I don't know how
- 0:41to respond to that, so yeah, no, just shout out to Cavira
- 0:44Brik hopefully she recovers soon. For if she recovers soon. But before we
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- 1:14it to anybody who likes sports. But let's get into it. So,
- 1:19like like we've been starting off with lately, we're gonna just start off with
- 1:23the NBA news and it's gonna go into what we're gonna talk about a little
- 1:26bit later. But the Hawks, they intend to keep their number one overall
- 1:30draft pick. How do you feel about that right there? Do you feel
- 1:34smart? I feel like for them it would be smart to secure Zach right
- 1:40I feel right now is going to be zachar Iris. I can't ever say
- 1:42his last name, Zacharyed. We're just gonna say Zach, Zach attack,
- 1:47you know, for good old Zach attack the Frenchman. I think it'll be
- 1:53good for them to secure one of them, because right now, I don't
- 1:55know. I think it's looking here more Alexandra Star. I think it's looking
- 1:59like they're having a hard time finding suitors for Dejonte or Trey Young, only
- 2:04because part of the asking price is probably a little too steep for most teams,
- 2:07especially with players who both kind of have a little bit of a liability
- 2:10with like either defense or I don't know, Dejonte maybe would like shooting or
- 2:15something. Yeah, so it's kind of hard for them to, I think,
- 2:19move around without having someone to fill in that void, and I think
- 2:23that's what they're gonna do. I think they might keep this pick. It's
- 2:24also a little too much. I don't know how much the Spurs are actually
- 2:27because right now the Spurs were usually the favorites to get that number one pick
- 2:30from them, and I don't know how much the Spurs are actually willing to
- 2:31give up with their future to bring in a player who people consider this draft
- 2:38not being too great and so investing a lot into this draft, and when
- 2:42there's supposed to be a lot of talent in next year's draft. So I
- 2:46just think it's probably the move that they should make and just keep that number
- 2:49one pick. Yeah, I agree with you here. I just feel like
- 2:53there's there's no point because you're not gonna get what you want to give back
- 2:57usually what you do with the first first overall pick. So you're just better
- 3:01off taking your chances on Alexanders sar Zach. That's all I'm gonna say.
- 3:07Maybe Donovan Klingen, but who knows. We're gonna talk about that more.
- 3:09In a second. But this next thing is Monti Williams. He's fired from
- 3:15the Pistons after one season and he's still old, five years, sixty five
- 3:19million dollars. So after one season. I know you said last week he's
- 3:24pretty much done, But I didn't think you were a woes or shams in
- 3:28this situation where you're calling stuff ahead of time. But what can I say?
- 3:31I can see the future, you know. I think I just don't
- 3:36think he ever wanted to be there and the Pistons, I don't know.
- 3:39It just wasn't a good situation. I think for him. I think they
- 3:42just kept throwing money at him, and he was like, I'm gonna sign
- 3:45this. I'm just gonna go close there, and then he realized this is
- 3:46a complete shit show. He just like forced his way out after one year.
- 3:53Yeah, no, he he did. I feel like, if you're
- 3:55gonna take on that job, you should be given more opportunities. It shouldn't
- 4:00be oh, you had one bad year, Get him the hell out of
- 4:03here. How is there going to be any culture anything that's built up for
- 4:06it. That's that's why the Pistons are the Pistons. But next thing is
- 4:13Darvin Ham he joined the Bucks assistant staff, but it's been planned already or
- 4:17been reported that he plans to become the head coach after Doc Rivers retires,
- 4:23whether that's next year or the year afterwards. So I know Janni's had a
- 4:27big thing to do with this, But do you feel more confident with Darvin
- 4:31Ham getting his second or second job opportunity in Milwaukee? I don't know he
- 4:39had. He had Lebron James on the other team, So let's hope that,
- 4:43Yeah, this team, he has Jiannis and he and he when he
- 4:46does become the the he takes over the role of being the head coach in
- 4:53Milwaukee. Let's just hope he kind of lives up to what that team could
- 4:57possibly do. But who knows, Maybe Milwaukee just looks diff when he gets
- 5:00there, because I don't know, it's just the way the NBA is going.
- 5:03If you're not winning now, it's kind of hard for teams to keep
- 5:08core pieces together. Yeah, so we'll just wait and see how that situation
- 5:11looks when he actually comes up to his role. Yeah, we'll definitely see.
- 5:15I just from what we've seen from Darvinham, it hasn't been the best.
- 5:19So I'm not gonna expect anything different because, like you said, you
- 5:24had I wouldn't say prime Lebron and prime A D. But they're just maybe
- 5:30a tier below. So you're not gonna get much better with Giannis and Dame
- 5:34who's kind of getting out of his prime. But speaking of the Lakers,
- 5:40after all the reports, after all the off and on down Hurley, JJ
- 5:43Reddick, James Borego, it's been expected now almost official. JJ Reddick is
- 5:49going to get the LA job. And all I'm just saying is Sham's one.
- 5:55All I'm saying, you picked team would Sham's one in this situation,
- 6:00so that that's all I must say. Well, I don't even well,
- 6:04now Monnie Williams is free, so that could add another person into the mix
- 6:08of being the next Lakers head coach. So we'll see. We'll just have
- 6:11to wait and see. I don't know. I feel like I wonder if
- 6:15JJ Reddick being friends with Lebron has a lot to do with him getting a
- 6:18lot of it Jji, JJ Weddick, JJ Reddick, J. J Weddick
- 6:26like he knows a lot about basketball, he's played among in many different systems,
- 6:30who's been a part of winning teams, not championship teams, but winning
- 6:32teams. So he's been around greatness and basketball. He played for Duke,
- 6:38But I don't know if it should be his first job as head coach,
- 6:42and even coaching in general is being the Lakers head coach. I think maybe
- 6:45a job like Detroit may be good for him if he's so, he could
- 6:48build his young career with a younger team or just hop on a good team.
- 6:53I don't know, it's just it's I just think Money Williams maybe kind
- 6:57of. I think eventually he'll probably move into the front runner. If JJ
- 7:00Reddick's not signed with in the next week or so, Yeah, I would
- 7:03really like that move as far as Monni Williams because he wasn't really given a
- 7:08shot in Detroit, And yeah, JJ Reddick, there's gonna be a bunch
- 7:12of pressure in it. If he's not winning multiple playoffs series, people,
- 7:15they are going to be calling for his head. And even at that Darvin
- 7:18Ham, they were calling for his head even when he made the conference finals
- 7:23his first year coaching, So what makes you think they're not going to do
- 7:26the same. But a couple free agency news right here is Pascal Siakam.
- 7:33He reached a deal with the Pacers four year, one hundred and eighty nine
- 7:36million a max contract for him and Klay Thompson. He wants a three year
- 7:41deal penning free agency, and he's ready to test the waters. So how
- 7:46do you feel about those? Obviously, Pacers keep Pascal and Klay Thompson potentially
- 7:51going somewhere else. How do you feel about that? I think you almost
- 7:56had to keep Pascal Siakam because the way he was playing when Tyreech wasn't on
- 8:01the court, he kept them in the games against the Boston Sells. The
- 8:05Boston Celtics squeaked by in those games. They didn't win those games out right,
- 8:09and Pascal Siakam had a lot to do with that, giving them a
- 8:11lot of trouble. So I think bringing back that guy who can kind of
- 8:13take over games, not on night and night out basis, but when you
- 8:16need him to, he can put up his own I think that's a good
- 8:20move for the Indiana Patris to secure that guy and maybe go get another start
- 8:22because I think they I think they do have a lot of cap room left
- 8:24still, so yeah, there's not much of a loss for them when it
- 8:28comes to financially But as far as Klay Thompson, who wants Klay Thompson for
- 8:33three years right now? I don't know a team that would want him to
- 8:37commit to him. At this point in his career. He's not the same
- 8:39defensive player he once was, and that was one kind of his bread and
- 8:43butter, just being the best three and D, one of the best three
- 8:45and D players in the entire NBA. Because his offensive game is kind of
- 8:48limited. He can do. He can get to the he used to be
- 8:50able to get to the rim, he used to kind of be able to
- 8:52shoot, get his own shot in the MIDI but now he's just a picking
- 8:56pop three point shooter now a little bit of defense. So it's just I
- 9:01don't know who wants to commit to him for three years. I can see
- 9:05him signing maybe a one or two year deal with the contender and hopefully to
- 9:09secure another ring, but at this point in his career, I don't know.
- 9:11Three years just seems kind of a lot for a player that you don't
- 9:13know if it's going to stay healthy. Yeah, exactly, there's there's a
- 9:18high risk high reward there. And not to mention how he went out over
- 9:22ten in a well it's not elimination, but pretty much is against the Kings
- 9:26elimination game. So that's not the right way. The only thing that's positive
- 9:31about you is you're shooting, and it seemed like the shooting that regressed a
- 9:35little bit. I think, Josh culd oh, no, he's back.
- 9:39Okay, he's back. Yeah. No, I just think that Klay Thompson.
- 9:45I think he'll be able to get the three year deal from potential,
- 9:48from potentially somebody like Orlando or somebody like that. But I just don't think
- 9:54anywhere else he'll be able to really get that unless he goes for a cheap,
- 9:58cheap contract, maybe thirty million total for three years. I know that's
- 10:03a lot of money, but basketball terms, that's not really that much.
- 10:09But you can hear me, right, Josh, you are good, right,
- 10:11Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, Okay. So next news
- 10:18right here is Donovan Mitchell. As far as him being traded now it seems
- 10:24more unlikely now. It's looking like he's gonna sign the max contract with the
- 10:28Cavaliers and end up returning. And I know you mentioned the same thing with
- 10:33Darius Garland. It's looking like they're trying to keep that together. So do
- 10:37you think that's a smart move right there? I know that they had their
- 10:41first playoff series win against Orlando and then against Boston they looked out matched,
- 10:46But how do you feel about that? I kind of feel like you got
- 10:50to bring back both of those guys. I think with Darius Garland being the
- 10:54pastor that he is, he can facilitate to a lot of them, to
- 10:58Jared Allen and Evan Mobley, but those both those guys were banged up,
- 11:03so it was kind of it's kind of hard to kind of gauge there the
- 11:09performance in the playoffs against Boston only because it's it's just there were in full
- 11:16health. I understand Boston did beat them decisively, but as far as Donovan
- 11:20Mitchell, you have to resign. You have to try keeping that guy as
- 11:22as much as you can because the way he was playing in the playoffs,
- 11:26it was only him. He was scoring what was it, I forgot which
- 11:30exact game, but I believe in the fourth quarter he scored maybe all twenty
- 11:35two points that oh yeah, scored in that game, and then other games
- 11:39other than that he was scoring, putting up forty points, forty five points.
- 11:41He can get to the he can score with anyone in the entire NBA.
- 11:45It's just they just do need another star to take some pressure off any
- 11:48another guy who can get his own shot. Not I'm not saying, like
- 11:52a super great scorer, but a good scorer that they could kind of rely
- 11:54on when the going gets tough sometimes. Yeah, that's that's expecially shown it.
- 12:01I just don't know how well this's gonna work because this is already a
- 12:03small backcourt and they're not known for their defense. So you can have teams
- 12:09that are gonna get better. In the East, you obviously have Tyree Smaxy,
- 12:13Jalen Brunts, and Damian Lillard, and you have the Boston Celtics,
- 12:16who are just clearly the more superior team. So, like you said,
- 12:20you need that third score. Potentially Paul George. I know Paul George.
- 12:24His name has been thrown around to every single team who's looking like they're on
- 12:28the brink. But he's just a good fit anywhere in Cleveland. That would
- 12:33be a perfect fit. But another thing, as far as draft related news
- 12:37is the Grizzlies they're trying to trade up or they're eyeing Donovan Klingen, the
- 12:41center from Yukon, so how do you feel about that? I know they
- 12:46have Jaron Jackson junior. Obviously, John Moran's gonna come back, So do
- 12:50you think that's smart to trade up in this draft class where I think we
- 12:54both perceive it and I think it's consensus that this is a weaker draft class.
- 13:03I don't know how to how I would feel because they have Jaron Jackson
- 13:07juniority, are they gonna pay him alongside of him? I think that would
- 13:11be a good move. It's just where is this gonna leave Steven Adams at
- 13:13for when he does come back from injury. Is he gonna come get a
- 13:18roll off of the bench, Is he gonna be the person in the trade
- 13:20negotiation is or are they just gonna cut ties with him. That's just that's
- 13:24something to be monitored right there, because I feel like if you have too
- 13:28many big men that can't shoot on one team, it's gonna be tough for
- 13:31this team to kind of push the ball forward, especially spread out the offense.
- 13:35Because if we're really looking at their team as a whole, John Moran
- 13:39when he does come back, isn't a shooter. He's not a shooter.
- 13:43I don't know if he no, he is a shooter. Oh yeah,
- 13:46in a different in a different in a different way. But but he's not
- 13:54he's not a three point shooter. He's gonna spread. He's not gonna spread
- 13:58that this ball. There's not gonna be a lot of spacing on this team.
- 14:01So we'll just have to I don't know if I like that move too
- 14:03much for them, So we'll just have to wait and see. Yeah,
- 14:09no, we'll have to wait and see. But as far as another thing,
- 14:11as far as with the draft, last thing before we get into oh
- 14:16no, a couple more things before we get into finals. Top, So,
- 14:18the Rockets are considering trading the number three overall pick for a win now
- 14:24player, So I guess they're thinking of the opposite of the Grizzlies. Maybe
- 14:28there could be a potential trade in move right there. So it seems like
- 14:33from where what reports are saying, the Rockets they feel comfortable with their team
- 14:37and trying to win now win multiple playoffs series. So my question more to
- 14:43you is do you think the Rockets are ready to make that run there?
- 14:46I know they had that late stretch barely missed the playoffs, but do you
- 14:50think they're ready? Sadly, I think they are ready. I think they
- 14:56to make a run. It's gonna hurt to admit, but I do think
- 15:00they have the young pieces and the way they did close up the season was
- 15:01great. I'm just happy that they came up short. That's just me.
- 15:03I'm the lead, but they I think one major move has set them over
- 15:09the top. I think we saw Jalen Green really step up offensively, especially
- 15:15when alfriend Sanguine got hurt. He he stepped up big time, and this
- 15:18team went on a run. And especially getting Alfred Seguin back next season healthy
- 15:22and then plus just having the veteran pieces that they have around him. I'm
- 15:26sure there's gonna be free agent options that want to join this team. I
- 15:30do think moving up to the top three, securing another player that can maybe
- 15:33solidify a position of need or just boost their chances would go a long way
- 15:39for the Houston Rockets to make it a push. Okay, I was saying
- 15:45championship, but like a play in spot. Yeah, they could for sure
- 15:50get that, you know, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that
- 15:52makes sense. All right. A couple more things here we have. Kings
- 15:56are interested in trading Kevin Hurder, Harrison Barnes and they're gonna be on the
- 16:02trade block, and then Nets have no interest in trading mckel Bridges here,
- 16:08So I know, the Nets they haven't been the best team. It seems
- 16:11like they had a good start then ended up kind of falling this year.
- 16:15And then the Kings they're trying to as far as retold potentially for another deeper
- 16:21playoff run or get further because I know they haven't made it past the first
- 16:25round in a while. So how do how do you feel about that?
- 16:27There? Josh, I'm sorry, repeat your question. Yeah, I know,
- 16:33I see all these bot these bots comments. We really haven't gotten them,
- 16:37but now they're getting crazy. No, but as far as yeah mckel
- 16:41Bridges, the Nets have no interest in trading him, and then the Kings
- 16:45are interested in trading Kevin Heurder and Harrison Barnes. Kevin Harrison. I'm sorry,
- 16:56I'm like I was fixing all this dud. Repeat one more time.
- 17:00Yeah, no, you're good. So, yeah, as far as the
- 17:03Kings are interested in trading Kevin Herder and Harrison Barnes, they're gonna they're gonna
- 17:07be on the trade block, potentially retooling them. Then the Nets there they
- 17:11have no interest in trading mckel Bridges even after a bad season. No,
- 17:17I think I think with mckel bridges, you have to kind of give it
- 17:21another another chance because he's a good player. I believe in mckl bridges.
- 17:26I think he showed a lot of promise when he when he left Phoenix and
- 17:29became the number one guy kind of in Brooklyn. He was he had that
- 17:33big stretch where he was averaging I believe, like around twenty eight points per
- 17:36game for them, and I just think they need to build off of that.
- 17:38I think maybe last year was a little bit down here. Even I
- 17:41think both me and you had some high hopes for Brooklyn last year, but
- 17:42yeah, they just kind of failed to reach those and I think you kind
- 17:45of got to give it one more shot. I do think a lot of
- 17:48those players are super young. It was a lot of their first times being
- 17:51having prominent roles on teams, so I think that caught up with them not
- 17:53knowing the situations when it came down to end of the games or even just
- 17:57controlling the lead. But as far as the Kevin Hooter and Harrison bar situation
- 18:03in Sacramento, I do think maybe they have them on trade to bring in
- 18:07another piece, one more extra piece, maybe add a draft picks along with
- 18:11them, to bring in a player that can help them contain and win now,
- 18:15because Kevin Houter is kind of kind of limited. He's more of just
- 18:18a pick and pop shooter. He can't really create his own shot consistently.
- 18:21And as far as Harrison Brown Barnes, he's getting up there in age man.
- 18:23At one point he probably would have been a great player to have alongside
- 18:26these guys, but right now he's just not the same guy. Yeah,
- 18:30yeah, I agree with you. It's smart that what the Kings are trying
- 18:33to do. They're trying to maximize Daron Fox and Demonta Sabonis. Even though
- 18:37it's not the best tandem, it's still a good tanem And maybe you could
- 18:41get lucky enough and squeak out of the West because the West it is such
- 18:45a dogfight, so you just have to keep trying to retool and get better.
- 18:51But yeah, I don't know. Personally me, I don't understand Michel
- 18:55Bridge is not being traded because you have no draft picks at all. The
- 19:00Rockets they have the draft picks, the seventy six ers, they have some
- 19:03draft picks from you. Or you got a little bit back, but it's
- 19:06not much. So I think, if anything, they should trade mckel Bridges
- 19:11get some draft picks. Maybe you could get three to four draft picks back,
- 19:15and it could help with your retoling process because you have no first round
- 19:18picks. Mckel Bridges. He's a good player, but he's not somebody who's
- 19:22going to be franchise altering. He's not going to be what you had,
- 19:26which was Kevin Durant in that trade package. But I feel like Cleveland should
- 19:33target a player or Indiana, even New York should target a player like mkel
- 19:37Bridges. Yeah, yeah, that that would be a good move right there.
- 19:41I like that one. I think, ooh, which would it make
- 19:45the biggest impact on. I wouldn't say it would be New York. I
- 19:49feel like more more Cleveland in my opinion. Yeah, I think Cleveland would
- 19:55I would. I would say it's between Cleveland and New York because I do
- 19:59think New York was struggling with another ball handler on the court to create his
- 20:02own shot. I get Jontey Devincinjo was kind of stepping a little bit,
- 20:06but having that consistent scour with mclebridge would help a lot. But I do
- 20:08think just having to rely on de defending Donovan Mitchell and then Darius Garland being
- 20:15the facilitator, it would create a lot of opportunity for mckil bridges to get
- 20:18his own in that offense, and I think that would kind of separate down
- 20:22from him being on the New York Knicks. Yeah, okay, yeah,
- 20:26So let's go ahead and move on to the NBA Finals here, in which
- 20:30we haven't talked about in a little bit. So obviously, the Boston Celtics,
- 20:36they won the NBA Finals four to one. They only lost three games
- 20:41the entire postseason. That's the second best record of all time in the postseason,
- 20:45only behind the twenty seventeen Golden State Warriors, who only lost once.
- 20:49So first question to you here, Josh, was this an all time postseason
- 20:56run? Here? I know it's controversial, but is the all time postseason
- 21:00run? Statistically? It is? But how do you feel about it?
- 21:07I'm not gonna be caught in this trap. I'll give credit where credit is
- 21:11due. They won the championship. But to say it's an all time postseason
- 21:15run, no Jimmy, no Tires, no Evan Mobley, wait, no,
- 21:22no Tis. Yeah, I know Evan Mobley, No. Jared Allen,
- 21:26uh, Darius Garland. I don't know where he went. I don't
- 21:30know where he went. So to say all time, no, but it
- 21:33did beat a good team in the championship. I will give them that,
- 21:37A fully healthy Dallas Mavericks team. I'll give them that. That was a
- 21:41great series for them. But let's say all time great playoff run. No,
- 21:45the teams just weren't there. The team, the team at full hells
- 21:48were not there. I cannot put it all time. Maybe in hindsight and
- 21:52ten years from now, yeah, people will look back and say maybe,
- 21:55but we're we're living in today's age. We know who they played and they
- 21:57didn't play. Yeah, you know so, especially especially they played the top
- 22:03teams in the East. But the teams weren't healthy, they didn't have some
- 22:06of their best players. So, and especially in the Indiana Pacers, does
- 22:08that series look a little different with Tyre's Taliburn being there down the stretch controlling
- 22:12the ball instead of someone else committing turnovers and having to rely on an Aaron
- 22:15need Smith to make play to facilitate the basketball. So that's a big that's
- 22:19a big change from Tyrese to Aaron Easeman, and those were games where Indiana
- 22:22was up by five points going and within two minutes left in the game.
- 22:26That controls the outcome, you know, But I will give credit for crudits
- 22:30to Celtics did defeat the Dallas Mavericks, who I thought were gonna win decisively,
- 22:33and it just was the other way. It was slipped on my words.
- 22:36And the Boston Celtics did secure a crazy dub against Dallas Mavericks in this
- 22:41series. Yeah, yeah, they definitely did. And that's a good point
- 22:45that you brought up. Maybe years later when people they're not looking at the
- 22:48full context, they're going to say, oh, sixty four and eighteen only
- 22:52lost three games the entire postseason. This is as dominant as a twenty seventeen,
- 22:57two thousand and one Lakers a Warriors run here. But in reality,
- 23:02it's just not not All championships are created equally, and this one it isn't.
- 23:07It's not equal because even at that I feel like they didn't even play
- 23:14the best teams. I feel like the Knicks would have given them a better
- 23:15test. As far as in the East, the Bucks could have given them
- 23:18a better test. The Sixers could have given them a better test the Mavericks.
- 23:22Obviously they beat them. That's credit where credit is due. I just
- 23:26feel like there was just a matchup difference where the Celtics they could just not
- 23:30be stopped compared to the Mavericks where they can be held in check. So
- 23:37another thing right here, Jalen Brown. He won finals MVP over Jason Tatum.
- 23:44And it was a little bit controversial because some people were saying Jason Tatum
- 23:48the last three games turned it up. Jalen Brown he didn't fall off,
- 23:52but it was more a flat line. So Jalen Brown twenty point eight points
- 23:56a game or twenty point eight points a game, five and a half rebounds,
- 24:00five assists, one and a half stills, almost a block compared to
- 24:04Jason Tatum twenty two points, almost eight rebounds, seven assists, one block
- 24:10and half a block. So did Jalen Brown deserve this finals MVP here over
- 24:15Jason Tatum? Yes he did. I think he was the best player for
- 24:18I get it rolling on base off this series. But he was the best
- 24:22player for the Boston the entire playoffs. And we're being completely honest. He
- 24:26did go in the conference finals, Yeah he did, and he's winning finals
- 24:30MVP. He guarded Luca. He called out Luca, and there's Mike up,
- 24:33where's that I want to guard Luca? He guarded Luca. And I
- 24:37understand Lucas still scores. Luca's gonna score no matter what he's Luca donches.
- 24:41But yeah, forcing Luca to turn over the ball as much as he did
- 24:45goes a long way in this series because when you force turnovers, especially a
- 24:49team that's probably not as good in transition, that's not as nowhere near as
- 24:52good as a transition offense as Boston Celtics is, that goes a long way
- 24:57for your team. And Jalen Brown causing those Smiths hats from Luca, I
- 25:00think is the reason why he secured the MVP. Plus, also, he
- 25:03played great offensively. He had in Game three thirty points, eight rebounds,
- 25:07eight assists. I'll go along with one block. That's a good series.
- 25:11That's a good game to how to put your team forward. Especially the whole
- 25:14series he averaged twenty twenty one points, five point four rebounds, five assists.
- 25:18That's not gonna blok in one point six steals. But that was on
- 25:19forty four percent shooting, and that's not gonna that's not gonna scream big numbers,
- 25:23but when your team is as stacking all around as the Boston Telicas are,
- 25:27that's good numbers because not every player is going to score like thirty a
- 25:32night. When these other players are stepping up, such as a jew Holiday,
- 25:34who could have probably had a case for Finals MVP of yeah, he
- 25:37could have had. So he had fourty averaged fourteen, fifteen points, eight
- 25:41rebounds, three point in assists, point six stals in, point six blocks.
- 25:45He was just good night in and night out, and especially in the
- 25:48first two games, he was considered the favorite tow win Finals MVP. So
- 25:51it was just the consistency of Jalen Brown every single game that won him this
- 25:53MVP. Yeah, I could agree with you there, but I am going
- 25:59to make the k for Jason Tatum because towards the first three games, I
- 26:03was like, Okay, Jaylen Brown, he has this thing locked up.
- 26:07But Jason Tatum again, he he had just a little bit more rebounds,
- 26:11assists, not even necessarily steals or blocks that went to Jalen Brown. But
- 26:17as far as I know, I know, I even hate this argument myself,
- 26:21but the overall impact he had and there were double team in Jason Tatum
- 26:25every single time he had the ball, and and that shows a lot of
- 26:30dividends who's really the best player. But I will agree with you as far
- 26:33as Jalen Brown, he played the best in this series. But Jason Tatum,
- 26:37he definitely had a case. If I had to say, we're really
- 26:42going to look back, andre Iguodala won the MVP when it probably should have
- 26:45been Katie or Steph, you know. So it's kind of it's just well,
- 26:49okay. Another thing that I want to talk about is as far as
- 26:53okay, I'm not trying to get into Kawhi won, so it just a
- 26:57little a little nuanced a little bit. But as far as all time great
- 27:03status, that does kind of matter. Look what it did to Steph Curry
- 27:07for a while. Yeah, yeah, No, I wouldn't say Jason Tatum
- 27:12he's he's an all time great. Yet he's he's ascending to the level of
- 27:18being a top fifty player all time. Does that make sense. He's going
- 27:22to get the stats, he's going to get the All NBAS, he's gonna
- 27:25get the All Star appearances, and now he has a checkion. He barely
- 27:27got one this year. He barely got one this year, But okay,
- 27:34what he's in his eighth year. I don't know how many All NBA teams
- 27:38he has. I know he has a couple. This was his first first
- 27:41team All NBA. But he has that, the All Star appearances, and
- 27:47now a championship. That could if he stays at the same level, Even
- 27:51if he doesn't win a championship, you could finish with maybe eight to ten
- 27:56All NBAS ten twelve All Star Games, whatever, maybe some maybe accolades down
- 28:03the war or down the road. So yeah, potentially, But like Al
- 28:07was saying, I hate that people they just see the wins and losses in
- 28:14this category, because even though Luca had a bad, bad, quote unquote
- 28:18bad series here, I still feel like he was other than Game five,
- 28:25he was the best player on the court the entire time. I just feel
- 28:30that wholeheartedly. And I just think people they're gonna say, I know,
- 28:34people they've been ripping him in the media as far as, oh, lucas
- 28:37not even an All Star player, Luca, he flops too much, Luca's
- 28:41not a winning player. They're gonna say that after he made the finals run.
- 28:45So I just think that's just too harsh criticism and it makes no sense
- 28:52to me because they wouldn't have gotten here without Luka Doncic. So I don't
- 28:56know how you feel about that Iris's career. Real quick, We're okay,
- 29:00let's talking about Alten Iverson's career real quick. I'm okay. But let's just
- 29:03do the comparison. You know, I'm taking Luke over Ai, and Ai
- 29:07didn't do shit after he made it first championship, So I guarantee you Lucas
- 29:11gonna do a lot more. So just saying mm hmm, yeah, oh
- 29:15yeah, that that's a great point right there. I have the same consistency
- 29:19when it comes to arguments, you know, like if you're going to praise
- 29:22one player in the past for winning an MVP or playing like an MVP then
- 29:26getting destroyed in the championship, do the same for Luca. Yeah, exactly.
- 29:32And even at that, if you want to look at stats, because
- 29:34I know everybody looked at Jason Tatum stats as far as him having a better
- 29:38series, you can't tell me twenty nine points eight rebounds, five and a
- 29:44half assists, two and a half blocks, forty seven percent from the field
- 29:48is not better stats than twenty two points, seven rebounds, seven assists and
- 29:52a stale the best player on the court every single game except for Game five.
- 29:57It wasn't even close. Yeah, yeah, no question. Yeah,
- 30:02I agree with you. But as far as Kyrie Irving, on the other
- 30:04hand, I know there was a bunch of praise as far as going him
- 30:11going into the NBA Finals, But twenty points a game, forty percent from
- 30:17the field, that that's not gonna cut it. That's not gonna cut it
- 30:21for Kyrie Irving and what he needed to do in order for them to win
- 30:23the series. But I'm gonna take it even further here, Josh. So
- 30:29the last fifteen games versus the Boston Celtics, what Kyrie Irving has done?
- 30:33So I gave. I gave his stats in the postseason. Then in the
- 30:38twenty twenty four regular season, twenty one points a game, forty percent from
- 30:44the field, twenty eight percent shooting. Year before twenty points a game,
- 30:48thirty nine percent from the field. Then the prior two years, nineteen points
- 30:53a game, forty percent from the field. He averages twenty six to twenty
- 30:57seven points a game. There's a big drop off when he faces the Boston
- 31:02Celtics. I don't know what it is. But he's owed fifteen against him
- 31:07the last fifteen times he's played in Boston at least, and they only won
- 31:11one game where everything was just clicking right for him, Game four. So
- 31:17I don't know if this changes your opinion about Kyrie Irving. I still think
- 31:21that they could run it back. But what do you think needs to be
- 31:25added to the Mavericks here or do you think Kyrie Irving potentially needs to go
- 31:27somewhere else. I want to talk about one more thing before we get into
- 31:32kind of that like MAVs future, what they're gonna do. Yeah, yeah,
- 31:34I got your all right, Yeah, but we gotta talk about Brad
- 31:37Stevens. That's really in VP. Brad Stevens is the really MVP, because
- 31:42if we're gonna talk about building a team, he brought him key pieces.
- 31:47He brought in shooting, defense, He even brought in veterans for leadership.
- 31:51He brought it more depth. He Drew Holiday, Al Horford, Derek Wright
- 31:55and Christaps presingis we're all Brad Stevens moves and yeah and oh my bad bad,
- 32:00You're right. Don't forget bald King, don't forget Drew Holliday replaced Marcus
- 32:07Smart it brought in better a better offensive game. It brought in smarter offense
- 32:14and and a willing passer. Marcus Smart was not a passer. Marcus Smarts.
- 32:17Yeah, when he's on the court, the offense, the offensive game
- 32:21goes out the window. He's jacking up shots. But he I'm not gonna
- 32:24say I say they're on the same level of defensive player. I'm gonna say
- 32:28I think Drew Holiday and Marcus Smart are on the same level of defensive player.
- 32:31So I do think bringing in a player that helps your offense slow a
- 32:35little bit better is a big move with Drew Holliday, especially him come and
- 32:37being a former champion. And then yeah, the Christophs persingis move throughout the
- 32:44majority of the season was smart for this team to lead them towards over sixty
- 32:46wins. I get he missed most of the playoffs, but if Christophs wasn't
- 32:50there in Game one and the first quarter having that big burst that he did,
- 32:53I don't think the bust of Celtics really win that game, because I
- 32:57do think because the rest of the game it was seventy to sixteen nine,
- 33:00it was a close, super close game. That first quarters separated them quite
- 33:04a bit, and if it wasn't for Christops, I don't think it would
- 33:06have happened. And then if we're gonna talk about he chose coach Misula to
- 33:10take over as his team's head coach when he Doka did his little thang and
- 33:14thang in the back, you know what I'm saying. So, so you
- 33:20know coach Misoula and sticking it out with him, because I think a lot
- 33:23of teams now they kind of if the if the interim coach don't get the
- 33:28job done, then he kind of gets like brushed off to the side and
- 33:30they bring him someone else. But even last year when they lost to Miami
- 33:34Heat in the conference finals, they stuck it out with him and it paid
- 33:38off because he's turned out to be a great defensive head coach, just a
- 33:42great head coach, and you know, he can do it all and I
- 33:44think he's considered one of the best in the league. And I think coach
- 33:46was sticking out with Coach Misula by Brad Stevens choice is part of the reason
- 33:52why they won this championship. Yeah, of course that's a great point to
- 33:54bring up. As far as Brad Stevens and what he was able he was
- 33:59able to do. Some people they're just better as general managers. And even
- 34:02at that, you got it. Yeah, he wasn't a bad head coach,
- 34:07but he's just an even better general manager. And even at that,
- 34:10he helped develop Jason Tatum Jaylen Brown, those two main guys right there who
- 34:16ended up leading them to the championship. So, and as far as one
- 34:22more thing with the Celtics, do you think I know there's been six different
- 34:27champion champions the last six years, do you think that they have a chance
- 34:34to repeat here? Hell? No? That clip yeap. No. In
- 34:43the NBA is way too way too I don't explain it, just it changes
- 34:49so much. Man, we had to wait till the offseason comes around and
- 34:52see which star player wants to leave and go to another team. I don't
- 34:54know. San Antonio is on the come up, baby, So women's about
- 34:57to control that whole stuff, whole thing, the whole thing and thang when
- 35:00it's about to have it. But no, I think maybe they they're they're
- 35:02the team to come out the East next year. For sure. I think
- 35:05I'm gonna pick them right now. As of right now, I think they'll
- 35:08be the team of the what the East. I don't think it's particularly close
- 35:12right now until someone makes a pretty big move that kind of sways my opinion.
- 35:16But as far as the Western Conference, the Western Conference is an interchangeable
- 35:20beast, and I just think once a team kind of gets going, maybe
- 35:22the Nuggets at another person, that could be scary. And so we'll just
- 35:27we'll just wait and see on that. I'm not gonna say they're winning clearly
- 35:30next year. All I'm gonna say is, Chicago Bulls, we're on the
- 35:34come. I'm just kidding. I can't even I can't even fit us that
- 35:36sentence there. I can't. We have Wimby Nah nah, I can't.
- 35:42He's getting swoller. You know. You see that, You see the arms,
- 35:45You know what I'm saying. He had to put on at least twenty
- 35:46pounds of muscle. It easily, easily. But I'm telling you with him
- 35:51working it was with Jamal Crawford, right, he was working with Jamal Crawford.
- 35:54I'm telling he's gonna be taking hesy pull up threes. I'm I'm gonna
- 35:59hate it. I'm gonna hate it because you can't stop that. That's a
- 36:01two K build. Get on, let's not get on the goat rant.
- 36:06Let's not get on the goat rant right now. You stop to the MAVs
- 36:08future. Let's go back to the right now. Yeah, no, let's
- 36:12let's go back to the MAVs future. So as far as Kyrie I,
- 36:16it wasn't that good, uh, PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford who they
- 36:22acquired in mid season. Obviously they're gonna get another year back. You have
- 36:28Derek Lively, Josh Green, Jaden Hardy, some young pieces right there.
- 36:32What really needs to be added to this Mavericks team in order for them to
- 36:37be back here in the finals. Well, to be honest, they don't
- 36:40have much cap space right now. I think they're gonna have to make some
- 36:45trades, maybe because all their rotation players that play in the Finals are on
- 36:49contract next year except for Derek Jones Junior. Derek jon Jr. Is the
- 36:52only one that's not on contract. So they have a lot of the key
- 36:55pieces coming back. I just think maybe another summer summer of geling together.
- 37:01But I do think it's gonna come down to a lot of Luka donchets Man.
- 37:05I do think Luca's gonna have to improve as a defender and he's gonna
- 37:07have to get into some better shape because I do think these injuries rack up
- 37:10when the seasons get later, because he has a lot of weight on him.
- 37:14I do think if he loses a little bit, if he loses I'm
- 37:16not saying he is Zion level, you know, but it's or but it's
- 37:22where it's kind of a detriment to the team a little bit because you're while
- 37:24you're you're you're what's the word I'm looking for, I don't know, but
- 37:30you're you're laboring in the in the championship when you should be at full strength
- 37:35trying to get this thing done. And I think that kind of kind of
- 37:37hurts him a little bit because he looks a little gassed sometimes. So I
- 37:39think that's gonna come fall on those shoulders of Luca Daunchis. I do think
- 37:43they have one They have one more season left with Kyrie and Luka Datchets together,
- 37:46and I do think they should probably go all in next year because I
- 37:50don't know how patient Luca is gonna be if they just can't continue to get
- 37:52it done. I feel like this gives them some buy or a breathing room
- 38:00after the last two years, after they made the Western Conference finals and missed
- 38:04the playoffs. It shows that they're actively trying to make different or get different
- 38:09pieces so they can make a championship run. So I feel like it gives
- 38:14you a two year window where Luca, it's like, all right, maybe
- 38:16if we don't make the finals again for these next two years, Okay,
- 38:21we'll give you some breathing room. Because you try to get Kyrie, you
- 38:22try to get PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford. So I don't think Derek
- 38:28Jones junior, he's coming back. He's about to get a nice contract for
- 38:30himself, which he rightfully deserves after a good postseason run and formal bull shout
- 38:36out to him. But yeah, I agree with you. It's gonna be
- 38:39Kyrie, Irving, Luka, Doncic and the biggest thing they could find a
- 38:45reliable third and fourth tour. They do probably need to find someone else that
- 38:49could kind of create their own shot. Appreciate with Washington he can get to
- 38:52the rack a little bit, but consistently. No, they need someone that
- 38:57like who's offensive. I think they have great defense. Maybe get a peer
- 39:00offensive player just so they can take pressure off because when it becomes a lot
- 39:04of Iso possessions or a lot of ball and Luca and Carrie's hands, it
- 39:08kind of steals the offense out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's
- 39:12a bunch of tough buckets against the Celtics. The tell of the two different
- 39:16or the big two differences was a Celtics they were getting the easy shots and
- 39:21the Mavericks they're making the difficult shots. And after a while you're not gonna
- 39:25make those difficult shots. Maybe half of them are gonna go win. Then
- 39:29it's gonna drop about forty thirty. Then it's gonna get worse and worse and
- 39:31worse as the series goes on, because the physicality from the Boston Celtics.
- 39:37So I do agree with you. A third score right here would be great,
- 39:42And I think the MAVs are gonna be fine. I don't think.
- 39:45I think second round potentially, just from how how heavy this Western Conferences or
- 39:52how stacked it is, second round exit somewhere around there. Potentially even further,
- 39:57that's their floor, just because Luca doncic he is entering this prime,
- 40:00Kyrie's he's maybe two three years from exiting his prime. So and another thing
- 40:07is that Derek Lively especially towards the end of the series, it looked like
- 40:09he started to become a three point shooter or started to stretch the floor.
- 40:15And he's already a great interior offensive presence and defensively, so he's only going
- 40:22to get better. Maybe Jaden Hardy he improves, Josh Green, he's going
- 40:25to improve. So I think it's just around the edges. I think a
- 40:30third score that would just be icing on the cake there. Then you really
- 40:34have an opportunity for them. But I don't know, or actually, let's
- 40:39go ahead and do our our grades as far as for the finals, the
- 40:45starters, or just the key pieces here. So we'll start with we'll just
- 40:49start with the Mavericks here. So Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving, what are
- 40:55your greades for them? This is all subjective, but what are your great
- 40:59for them? I gave Luka Doncicz a beat. I get because some of
- 41:05people would be mainly based off his offense. His offense was consistent. He's
- 41:08gonna get his every single night, but just sometimes it just looked like he
- 41:15was he was just walking slow out there. You know. On defense,
- 41:19he wasn't guarding particularly the whole time. There were some possessions where he would
- 41:22he would lock in and guard up like later towards games. But I need
- 41:27an entirety of the game basketball. You're you're. He's a bigger body that
- 41:30you could put in front of someone that's trying to move. And I think
- 41:34if he uses his size a little bit better, this series looks a little
- 41:37bit, looks a little bit different. So I'm gonna give it to be
- 41:39for his performance. As far as Kyrie Irving, I'm gonna have to give
- 41:42it a C C plus or or be minus. I only I probably I'm
- 41:45gonna stick with the sea, with the sea, Let's give him a sea.
- 41:49I just do think the inconsistency throughout the entire playoffs really of him waiting
- 41:54to start scoring and taking over games just hurt this team to ya, especially
- 42:00in the game where Luca fouled out. Yeah, Mats are still in that
- 42:05game, and you think, most of the time you have a Kyrie Irving,
- 42:07you can you can win this game no matter what. Yeah, he
- 42:10just didn't show up when when Luca filed out, he had the ball,
- 42:15he had one, I believe, one great layup when he got racked by
- 42:17outside of that, and he didn't do anything. And I just think him
- 42:21having to step up consistently more throughout the entirety of the game instead of showing
- 42:24up in the second half hurt this team quite a bit. So I'm gonna
- 42:28give him a seat. So I'm gonna give Luca. It's gonna kind of
- 42:32be on the same premise as you. I'm gonna give him a beat plus
- 42:36here, and I'm not gonna be as hard as defensively because he's never been
- 42:39this great defender. It's not a kid, but at least put your body
- 42:43in front of yeah, man, yeah, no question. And I'll say
- 42:46in Game four and in Game five before it got out of hand, he
- 42:51was definitely putting, putting the effort in and he was aggressive offensively, no
- 42:57doubt, and he had some turnovers. But I feel like these would be
- 43:01blowouts if it wasn't for Luka Doncic carrying the load offensively, So it wouldn't
- 43:07have even been There wouldn't have been two to three competitive games in this series.
- 43:13But as far as Kyrie irving, as far as what he did in
- 43:16the Western Conference finals and compared to what he did in the finals, it's
- 43:22a C minus. It's a C minus kind of going to a D.
- 43:25And I'm a Kyrie Irving fan here, but I just expected more from Kyrie
- 43:31Irving and he should be able to get his own shot whenever he wants his
- 43:36shot, and that just wasn't able to happen this series. He was just
- 43:42being clamped up. And it may be something against the Boston Celtics where just
- 43:45matchup wise, they know how to defend him. But at the end of
- 43:50the day, you're Kyrie Irving, you should be making your own buckets,
- 43:52your own shots. And defensively, he's not the best defensively, even though
- 43:57he puts an effort, you're just too small of a go. But as
- 44:00far as for the role players here, PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford,
- 44:06Derek Jones Junior. What are your grades for them? H Derek Off.
- 44:15For Derek Jones Jr. I'll give him. I'll give him an A an
- 44:21A minus. Let's give Derek Jones Junior A minus. I do think he
- 44:22stepped up great defensively in certain moments he kinda he kind of need he got
- 44:28some buckets when needed, when Kyrie and Luca kind of weren't on the court,
- 44:32or when they just couldn't couldn't get into a rhythm. He would force
- 44:36his way into the paint and kind of draw a foul and get a bucket.
- 44:37I do think he played his role very Yeah. I do think sometimes
- 44:42that he could knock down a couple of threes that would help this team out
- 44:44quite a bit, because he did miss a couple of big moments. But
- 44:46I'll give him an a minus for what he's asked to do. As far
- 44:50as let's say, you said Derek, Daniel Gafford and Derek Lively or did
- 44:53you say PJ. Washington? Okay, yeah, I said PJ two,
- 44:57But we could do that in a second. Yeah, you're good, Okay.
- 45:00As far as Derek Lively, I don't know. I just think I
- 45:02just expected a little bit more from Derek Lively. He got into quite a
- 45:06bit of foul trouble in the first couple of games, and then he just
- 45:10his offensively. He was kind of shut and the rebound the boards were I
- 45:14thought would be controlled by Dallas and it just wasn't happened from Derek Lively or
- 45:17Daniel Gafford. And that was part of the reason why I thought they would
- 45:21win this series, because how consistent they were defensively and on the boards and
- 45:24rebounds. So I think I'm gonna get them both as a tandem, maybe
- 45:28a seed mm hmm. Okay, And that so one of the same things
- 45:31for Derek Lively goes for Daniel Gafford. Mm hmm. Yeah. I agree
- 45:36with you here. And I think as far as with the Big Man,
- 45:38I think I'm a I'm gonna be a little bit more critical here because this
- 45:43has been their entire offense in the postseason. As far as the lop threat
- 45:46and as far as controlling the glass, I'm gonna say f and especially with
- 45:51Christops being out from from Game three in Game four, if you win those
- 45:57two games right there, and you control the boards and you have an entiaror
- 46:00your presence, then this is a totally different series. Maybe the series is
- 46:04still going on right now, but I just think that they could have definitely
- 46:09played a better series, and they played. This was their worst series out
- 46:14of all four of the series that they played. And as far as Dereck
- 46:17Jones Junior, I'm gonna I'm gonna say a B plus B plus a minus
- 46:23right here because he played his role, he guarded most of the time.
- 46:28Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum, so he had that number one defender role him
- 46:31more PJ. Washington here, and I know he was battling some injuries.
- 46:37He had some ankle issues, but he still stepped up sometimes he made some
- 46:40timely buckets. But once again, I feel like, or you know what,
- 46:45I'm gonna say B minus for Derek Jones Junior because he did miss a
- 46:49lot of open threes here. Yeah, and it could have definitely changed his
- 46:52game around. Yeah. So as far as with this last these last two
- 46:58right here that we're going to get into is PJ. Washington and Josh Green.
- 47:02As far as the grades you have for them, I'll give Josh Green
- 47:07possibly like an A because he was the only player I feel like hitting anything
- 47:12in this last game, and he didn't take that much shots. It was
- 47:14just showing that he was trying. He was He's not a bigger player.
- 47:19He has his role. He knows he's a three point shooter for this team.
- 47:22He can maybe get to the rims sometimes, and he's like a defender.
- 47:25I do think for his role that he played in some of these games,
- 47:29being probably one of the more consistent players, I'll give him an A.
- 47:32As far as PJ. Washington, I do think he missed. There
- 47:36was a lot of There was a lot of games where we watched where you
- 47:38could make the extra pass. He don't have to force your way to the
- 47:42rim. And especially his consistency that he had a couple series ago just wasn't
- 47:46existing here. His offensive game kind of disappeared. And I do think having
- 47:51that another person who can score, PJ. Washington was that for most of
- 47:55the playoffs. That wasn't that wasn't there in the finals, And I do
- 47:59think because of that he gets a DP. I don't. I don't think
- 48:01he played his role the way he should have been, playing like he was
- 48:05earlier in the playoffs. Yeah, as far as with Josh Green, I'm
- 48:09agree with you on the grade. I'm not gonna get much into him because
- 48:12you broke it down, but fifty five percent from three on somebody who's not
- 48:16known to be a three point shooter, that is very impressive right there,
- 48:21what you were able to do. And in the game five, he was
- 48:25the only one outside of Luca who was actually an offensive threat here. But
- 48:30as far as PJ. Washington, yeah, I'm gonna give I gave Kyrie
- 48:35Irving a C minus I'm gonna give him a C minus as well. Just
- 48:38plenty of open threes that you missed twenty seven percent from three when you were
- 48:43usually shooting around thirty eight thirty nine percent from three. That's just not gonna
- 48:46cut it there. And whenever you did guard Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown,
- 48:52it was dog food. It was. It was fairly easy for the most
- 48:54part, compared to Derek Jones Junior, where he held up on his part
- 48:59for the most in it seemed like they were attacking Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving
- 49:02and PGA Washington right after that. So he definitely could have played a better
- 49:07series. And once again, this was the worst playoff series he had compared
- 49:12to all the all the other four. Well, let's get into the Celtics
- 49:15here. So the big two right here, Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown.
- 49:22What are your grades for these two players. I'm going to give Jason Tatum
- 49:28a beat. I'm gonna say it would be only because the offensive struggles played
- 49:30him throughout the entire season and it kind of was a little bit prominent in
- 49:35the beginning of this series. He did step it up in the final two
- 49:37games, especially in this last one. But he still went one for seven
- 49:38from three. I do think of him being the focal point and doing leading
- 49:45the team in point three bounds and assists helps him out. So I'm give
- 49:49them, I'm go give him a B plus. I'll upgrade it to a
- 49:51B plus. I just I just do think that I expect a little bit
- 49:53more consistency from him on a game basis. But as far as Jalen Brown
- 49:59and A plus, Jalen Brown shooting over forty percent from the field, taking
- 50:02as many such as he does, and then also being the primary defender on
- 50:07Luca dncis, there's not a bigger test ask for out of a player,
- 50:09and I do think that's why he gets a Naples for me. So yeah,
- 50:14I'm I'm gonna say an A as well for Jalen Brown. And with
- 50:17all the stuff that you mentioned mentioned there, he had the number one defensive
- 50:21assignment and for the first three games he was the number one offensive offensive threat.
- 50:28Here, Jason Tatum, I'm gonna say a B. I'm gonna say
- 50:32a B minus here because yes, he had the he had the rebounds,
- 50:37assists, But as far as just your overall shooting ten for thirty eight from
- 50:42three overall shooting thirty eight percent from the field. That that's just not gonna
- 50:46cut it. That's just not going to cut it. You were just you're
- 50:51on a stack team. And yes you still won the series, but you
- 50:53definitely could have played better here. But as far as with these next three
- 51:00right here, Drew Holliday, Derek White and Chris stops porzingis what are your
- 51:06greades for these three players right here? Drew Holliday, I give him an
- 51:09A an A because he did his role perfectly. He played great defense.
- 51:14He he actually got his own in the paint. This is why Derek Clively
- 51:17and Daniel Gafford are just completely low for me, because he was kind of
- 51:21getting taken it to them also, you know. Yeah. And then as
- 51:23far as defensively, he steps up when he needs to. He was guarding
- 51:27Kyrie, he was guarding Luca, but they needed this switch sometimes and he
- 51:30stepped up in a big way. And he's no slouch down low, which
- 51:34is pretty surprising when players are trying to back him up, they just couldn't
- 51:37because he's so smart defensively. And I do think I give Drew Holliday and
- 51:40A because his performance all around was just significant in this series. And if
- 51:45we're you said Christops now Horford Christopson, Christopson, Derek White, Yeah,
- 51:51oh, Christops. And Derek White. As much as I hate to say,
- 51:53I give Derek White and A. I give Derek White an A.
- 51:58He yep, whatever, uh He's He's a great defender, Derek White.
- 52:02He does the dirty work. He's a hustle player. He also is good.
- 52:07He gets he gets his own offensively when it whether getting to the rack
- 52:10and drawing fouls or even or even just playing even knocking down a big three
- 52:16when they need it. He just plays the dirty. He does the dirty
- 52:20work for this team. The all he does, he does the do it
- 52:22all role for this team, and I do think he played that role very
- 52:24good in the series. So I'll give him an A. As far as
- 52:28Christolph perzingis, I do think him being injured those couple of games kind of
- 52:30hurts him a little bit. But in the games he did play, the
- 52:32impact that he did make was significant. For that, I'm gonna give him
- 52:36a B plus, especially in that first game and the big in the big
- 52:40in the big start he had in that game in the first quarter for Pels,
- 52:44the team in that one and the next game after that having some major
- 52:46blocks controlling the interior of the defense. I do think that says a lot
- 52:51for him. And even in this game, just being kind of not doing
- 52:53great offensively, he only went one for I believe one for four or two
- 52:58for four and so, but he played a limited role. They didn't expect
- 53:01too much from them. But I do think just bringing in that energy,
- 53:05bringing that energy off the bench at the team, at the crowd got pumped
- 53:07when he came out. So I do think I'll give him a B plus
- 53:10for his series as a whole. So with these three players right here,
- 53:15I feel like this is what the big difference was, is that the Celtics
- 53:20role players outplayed the Mavericks. So I'm gonna say a plus plus plus plus
- 53:23plus for these three players right here. Because Drew Holliday, Derek White,
- 53:29those guys, whenever they went up against Luka Doncic or Kyrie Irving, both
- 53:34of those guys usually had the Kyrie Irving assignment and they did their job perfectly.
- 53:38We talked about it with the MAVs side already, how Kyrie Irving he
- 53:42had or he got shut down. So they played there as perfectly. As
- 53:45far as when the timely rebounds from Drew Holliday, those offense rebounds, those
- 53:51second chance points are Derek White, just those timely threes where it seemed like
- 53:55the Mavericks were getting back into the game, there would be timely threes or
- 54:00timely buckets that they would get. So that's just a plus right there.
- 54:04And Chris stops like like you said, he outplayed by himself, Derek Lively
- 54:10and Daniel Gafford in which that was the biggest strength for the Mavericks even even
- 54:15though he wasn't healthy for the most part, he outplayed him. So as
- 54:22far as these next two plin or three, Sam Hauser, Al Horford and
- 54:29then the special teams player first NBA Special Teams player, Peyton Pritchard, how
- 54:32do you grade these guys. I'll give Sam Hauser an A. He's hit
- 54:37big threes when they had. He even had a little floater game happening within
- 54:40this series. I'm not saying he played great offensively, they kind of targeted
- 54:43him a lot when he was I mean on defense, they kind of targeted
- 54:45him a lot. But offense, he played his real great. He was
- 54:47knocking down threes when needed, he was kind of a smart piece off the
- 54:51bench for this team. So I give him an A for what he did
- 54:53in this series, and we're gonna go pitching Prichard. He didn't. He
- 54:57only played. He only played one minute in that final game in Game five,
- 55:02but it was the biggest one minute of the entire game because he hit
- 55:06that half court three and everyone went crazy. So I'll give him an I'll
- 55:09give him an A plus, especially in a couple other In a couple of
- 55:13other games he was He played a lot more and he had a bigger role.
- 55:15He hit some threes, controlled the offense. They were just defensive liabilities
- 55:19when they are on the court, but offensively they play their roles. So
- 55:22I'll give him an a plus just for the half court boser beater alone.
- 55:24And then yeah too, he had a couple. He had two. Yeah,
- 55:30one game two, it was Game two, and then Game five.
- 55:32Okay, I don't remember the game two one, to be honest, as
- 55:37he said Al Horford also, I do think Al Horford at his age like
- 55:43him doing what he was able to do. I think it's it's harder these
- 55:46role players or somethings played their roles. It's hard to give them outside of
- 55:50an a any of these guys, I think al Morford controlled the boards when
- 55:53needed. He hit some big threes. He even did a little dancy dance
- 55:58on Daniel Gafford and Derek Lively a couple of times to get to the rim.
- 56:00So he played, he plays great in this series. You're not going
- 56:04to get the same Al Horford you'll get five years ago, thre even six
- 56:07years ago. But the Al Horford they got now playing his role in a
- 56:09plus. Yeah, Sam Hauser and al Horford what they were meant to do
- 56:15with stretch the floor and forty eight percent from three from Sam Hauser and forty
- 56:20seven percent from al Horford. Again, I know we keep repeating this that
- 56:24the Celtics role players did their job, but you can't harp on this enough.
- 56:29This was the biggest difference in the series. And why I called Peyton
- 56:32Prichard a special teams player is because in the NFL Okay Special Teams it's like,
- 56:38okay, usually nothing happens, but if you get a big fumble,
- 56:43you get a big touchdown, it changes the momentum completely. And I feel
- 56:47like Peyton Prichard in those two buzzer beaters, were those games were in the
- 56:53balance of being out of hand or going in the Mavericks favor Peyton Prichard.
- 56:58He delivered in both of them. I know it's luck. I know it's
- 57:01just luck, but there's still game changing. But we talked about the finals
- 57:08here. I feel like we pretty much covered everything. But the last question
- 57:13I have for you is who's going to be in the finals next year?
- 57:16Josh, if you had to give an early prediction, the San Antonio Spurs,
- 57:25Chicago Bulls. Ye, Chicago, I agree with your championship series.
- 57:30No, okay. If I have to be lying to myself, I would
- 57:35pick the man Boston Celtics out of the East right now, Okay, bro,
- 57:44I have no idea. It's a dog. Yeah, it's a dog.
- 57:46No idea. Let's just to be determined right there. If I had
- 57:51to pick one, maybe how this goes, Okay, give two teams.
- 57:54Give two teams, Denver Nuggets, okay, or or the Minnesota Timberwolves.
- 58:07Okay, Okay, so my I have the Timberwolves, but I'm gonna say
- 58:12the Oklahoma City Thunder. I'm gonna say that's the other team right there.
- 58:15I don't know why they said my mind, but I don't chet Holmer and
- 58:17is not gonna get one. It's still with Denver Nuggets or or the Timberwolves
- 58:23for me. All right then from the East, Oh, I feel like
- 58:30Celtics. That's just the easy that's just the easy answer right there, I'm
- 58:36gonna I'm gonna say them Milaukee Bucks. I feel like they're gonna have a
- 58:45bounce back season. I'm gonna say them Waukee Bucks. I can see that
- 58:47happening. But all right, now, let's go ahead and get onto.
- 58:52We talked to NBA Finals, we talked to NBA News, But the NBA
- 58:57Draft is coming up. It is next Wednesday, so less than a week
- 59:00away, and ESPN they give out their mock draft. We're going to just
- 59:06go a little bit into detail as far as just some of these prospects here.
- 59:09But like we mentioned Atlanta Hawks, they're planning on keeping the first overall
- 59:14pick and they're projected to get Zachariah Rashire. I think I said his name,
- 59:19right, I think I did. But also another report that I just
- 59:22saw is that Alexander sar and that Atlanta Hawks, even though there's mutual interests,
- 59:29they have not had a private workout at all. Whether that's been some
- 59:34issues. As far as I know, France are still in the playoffs right
- 59:37now, or they're still yeah, they're still in their season right now,
- 59:39so maybe there's issues right there. But yeah, zacharyer Rashire, he's expected
- 59:44to be the first overall pick. How do you feel about that one?
- 59:46Right there? I just did think the Zach attack is making his way up
- 59:53draft board. He made his way up draft boards really quick for a long
- 59:55time as Alexandristar kind of being consistent number one, and then now just switch
- 1:00:01dramatically to Zach to Zach Rye. So I do think it's it's it's gonna
- 1:00:08work out. We kind of talk about him a little bit last year.
- 1:00:09He has a lot of Michael Porter in his offense with a little more passing
- 1:00:13and better defense. And that's a good player. That's a damn good player
- 1:00:15if he can if he can live up to that, up to that ceiling,
- 1:00:19because that's probably an All star if you we're really talking about it,
- 1:00:22game in and game A, game in and game out. Probably not immediately,
- 1:00:24but once his game develops into the NBA, he'll be a problem,
- 1:00:28I think. So I do think that's the correct move for the Atlanta Hawks.
- 1:00:30It's just how is he gonna fit into this offense? I have no
- 1:00:32idea with a loop with already Trey Young and Dejontay being there. Who knows
- 1:00:37where they're gonna end up at right now, But as of right now,
- 1:00:40I just don't see how that kind of jails together. Yeah, exactly if
- 1:00:45he could, if he could learn to develop the jump shot, the three
- 1:00:47point shot, then there's definitely gonna be a bunch of mismatches even if you
- 1:00:53keep the same team ass constructed and he's he's about six nine, six ten,
- 1:00:59so defensively he's gonna be there. Obviously he could put on more size,
- 1:01:04but if he's able to develop a handle where he could actually be able
- 1:01:09to facilitate and hold onto the ball himself, this is gonna be scary.
- 1:01:15This is gonna be really damn scary for what he could potentially be. But
- 1:01:21as far as between Alexander Sar and zacharyer Rishire, personally me I would take
- 1:01:28Alexander Sar here. I just feel like he has the higher floor because even
- 1:01:35if he doesn't develop offensively, defensively he's gonna be there. He's seven foot
- 1:01:38and his interior presence, it's already there. So who would you take out
- 1:01:44of those two players? If I'm the Atlanta Hawks, I'm taking Alexandri Sar.
- 1:01:47I just think if it's their off, their team a lot better because,
- 1:01:52like you said, with the with the defense that Sar already has,
- 1:01:57it creates mismatches already. And as far as he's a he's he's a good
- 1:02:01finisher already around the rim. It's just he's he's improving his facing. I
- 1:02:07believe he developed like a good mid range game throughout the season over there in
- 1:02:10Australia, he developed a good mid range game. But I do think he
- 1:02:15can develop into a three point shooter. And I do think the upside for
- 1:02:17him being how tall that he is and being just a great defender is a
- 1:02:22lot bigger than Zach Zacharies right now for me. So I do think as
- 1:02:28far as the Hawks fit, I would take him over over the Zach Attec.
- 1:02:35So if I had a I know we didn't talk about this but before
- 1:02:39the pod, but if I just had to give a comp to Alexander,
- 1:02:42sorry, I feel like that's only when I'm confident and giving a comp to
- 1:02:46I feel like it would be somewhere like Jaron Jackson Jr. Okay, yeah,
- 1:02:51it would be something like that where technically he's a sine upside. Yeah.
- 1:02:55Yeah, that's what I'm saying. As far as maybe a little bit
- 1:03:00better, which who knows how great that can be? Right there? I
- 1:03:02don't know if you potentially have a comp but that's the only one I feel
- 1:03:07confident in right there as far as giving a cop but the third overall pick
- 1:03:14or the projected third overall pick right here to the Houston Rockets, it's projected
- 1:03:17to be Reed Shepherd here. So how do you feel about this? Obviously
- 1:03:23he was at Kentucky his last game in March Madness. It didn't look so
- 1:03:28well, but still still looking to be a top five prospect. How are
- 1:03:31you feeling about him? I just think this has more to do with fit
- 1:03:36for the Houston Rockets. I think they do need a three point shooter to
- 1:03:38kind of pick and pop for them, and I do think he he does
- 1:03:43that. He he can grow as a playmaker, but I think his shooting
- 1:03:46ability is going to allow him to to fit into this Houston Rockets team a
- 1:03:52lot. He has a little bit of JJ Reig and and I do think
- 1:03:54every team needs JJ Reddick kind of a pop shooter, and I do think
- 1:03:58that's why he's going to right here, because he's not gonna be asked to
- 1:04:00be the main ball handler here. He's gonna be asked to play his role,
- 1:04:03and I think he think that's the move that the Rockets are making with
- 1:04:05this. Yeah, and him shooting fifty two percent from three is crazy for
- 1:04:13the entire season. And also he had two and a half stills a game,
- 1:04:16so that's just very big right there. I like that car right there.
- 1:04:20As far as the JJ Reddick personally, me, I don't understand the
- 1:04:26Reed Shepherd pick for the Houston Rockets because I know you have Fred van Vliet
- 1:04:29Jalen Green. I know he's going to be off Paul, but still he
- 1:04:32can he can end up having the ball and he can end up being one
- 1:04:36of the playmakers, maybe replaced Fred van Vliet down the road. But that's
- 1:04:42just me. As far as with your San Antonio Spurs here first and me,
- 1:04:46I like this projection right here. Stefan Castle from Yukon, so he
- 1:04:51was a freshman and he has definitely a lot of room to grow. But
- 1:04:55how do you feel about that as a Spurs fan. If he get stafun
- 1:04:58Castle, I'm cool. I do think Stefan Castle with him. I do
- 1:05:05think what brings him a lot of attention is a defense and passing ability that
- 1:05:10he does bring. He's a he has a great size as compared to re
- 1:05:15Shepherd and Rob dealing him and so like, he kind of makes himself a
- 1:05:19better prospect just based off potential alone, based off defensively, and I do
- 1:05:24think that's what they're kind of aiming for. We need a better def We
- 1:05:26need better on ball defense, I do we do outside of Wimby and Jeremy
- 1:05:30Shahan, I do think we need better on ball defense. And then with
- 1:05:35the passing, we need passing bad dude. We saw it last year A
- 1:05:40lot of the times with Wimby was just wide open in the middle and no
- 1:05:43one was giving him the ball just because no one has that division. We
- 1:05:45can't be mad at Jeremy Sohan who was playing a whole new position and Trey
- 1:05:48Jones when he didn't make When he did start the game got a little bit
- 1:05:51better, it got a lot more, a lot more. But I do
- 1:05:55think his potential with Trade Jones as being a scorer just isn't the same as
- 1:05:59maybe a Stefan Castle, who's a lot bigger as compared to a Trade Jones.
- 1:06:02I do think he needs to work on shooting. We need to facing
- 1:06:05bad Yeah, I do think that's the knock on him for me is the
- 1:06:09shooting ability. As far as passing a defense, I'm all for it.
- 1:06:14Yeah, yeah, No, I feel like personally me and Stefan Castle,
- 1:06:16he's one of my favorite prospects because it's easier to teach somebody how to shoot
- 1:06:23compared to do all the other little things which he's able to do. And
- 1:06:27at the end of the day, he's he's a freshman and he was able
- 1:06:30to lead this Yukon team to another championship. So just as far as you,
- 1:06:35like you mentioned defensive versatility, he's I feel like he's able to guard
- 1:06:40one through three and if he knocks down that jump shot, it's going to
- 1:06:45be very scary next to Wimby because that's exactly a bad three point shooter.
- 1:06:49I'm just saying, like, yeah, I want it more consistently from him.
- 1:06:53Oh yeah, yeah, I've I just feel like that's just his biggest
- 1:06:58quote unquote flaw. I don't feel like it's a flaw because it's something that
- 1:07:00could be learned. Like Klay Thompson, he didn't know how to shoot when
- 1:07:03he first got into the league. Jason Tatum wasn't as good a Lonzo ball.
- 1:07:08So you could find these guys and turn them into three point shooters.
- 1:07:13Yeah, yeah, exactly. So as far as the fifth overall projected pick
- 1:07:19right here for the Pistons, it's I'm gonna try to say this name right,
- 1:07:24I've been practicing. Mades Bozellis from the G League. Ignite who I
- 1:07:29said it perfect? So if anybody doesn't know who he is, he is
- 1:07:33a small forward, power forward. He was projected to be a top three
- 1:07:36pick. He had a little bit of a struggle in the G League,
- 1:07:42but that kind of happens. So how are you feeling about this right here?
- 1:07:46I do think this could probably be a still for Detroit. He had
- 1:07:48a lot of he was I think believes he consider maybe the number one pick
- 1:07:53a couple of years ago in this draft. So it's just I do think
- 1:07:57he has a lot of potential, a lot of upside. But the thing
- 1:07:59is a traite man. They get a lot of upside players, what can
- 1:08:01they do with the upside players, and I do think it hurt them falling
- 1:08:04to number five. They were supposed to protect the number one overall pick.
- 1:08:08He didn't. Number five pick is is tough for them. But I do
- 1:08:11think getting a player like Mantas, who was considered to be the number one
- 1:08:14overall pick he has the upside is tremendous. It's just can he jail with
- 1:08:18the other pieces who are there right now that are trying to figure out Also,
- 1:08:23Yeah, no better than presence there, So it's just no one could
- 1:08:26learn from. Yeah, exactly, he's almost seven seven foot tall and he's
- 1:08:32a perfect NBA wing. He's able, he's able to move his feet.
- 1:08:36He's not an uncomfortable seven footer. He's somebody who just looks completely comfortable in
- 1:08:43their body. And if he's able to get the playmaking down, I feel
- 1:08:47like he could. He could just be somebody that we haven't seen before.
- 1:08:54As far as he has a lot of upside, Mantes Bozellis, he he
- 1:08:59does. If he could become that, if he could become a playmaker,
- 1:09:03he's gonna be easily an All Star. He will, And I know all
- 1:09:08these players they're becoming seven footers now, but that doesn't mean they're not gonna
- 1:09:13be point guard, shooting guard, small forwards. That it's just a new
- 1:09:15modern age now where just everybody is just gonna be six eight, six'
- 1:09:19nine, gonna be point guards or could dribble like a point guard, but
- 1:09:25playing the four or the three. As far as a comp with him,
- 1:09:30I would say, best case scenario, I would say a better version of
- 1:09:34Andrew Wiggins. That's what I would say. So it was what Andrew Wiggins
- 1:09:41was supposed to become. I'm not saying no Maple Jordan. I'm not saying
- 1:09:45that. I'm not saying no Bapel Jordan. No, but this next one
- 1:09:51right here. As far as for the shot at Hornets number six, Dalton
- 1:09:58connect the small from Tennessee. So he was a super senior. He played
- 1:10:03every single year in Tennessee. Obviously he is known as one year. He's
- 1:10:08true, he's one of the best three point shooters in the league. But
- 1:10:15how you how you feeling about this one. I know some people are calling
- 1:10:17him the best shooter in the draft, but do you believe that to be
- 1:10:21true? I don't know if it's true. We'll have to see these guys
- 1:10:26an end game. There's a lot of players who considered the best shooters coming
- 1:10:29out of college and they just never panned out to be the best shooter in
- 1:10:31the NBA because it's just a different type of game. You're off ball movement,
- 1:10:35You're you're picking pop the three point ship lines a lot a little bit
- 1:10:40longer. So we'll just have to wait and see. But as far as
- 1:10:44him, that that's that's what he is. He he he's a great shooter,
- 1:10:47but you can also get to the rack a little bit, and he
- 1:10:49has a good mid range. He has a good offensive game in general.
- 1:10:53I don't know how he is on defense, but they're saying that he could
- 1:10:57fit good alongside LaMelo and Brandon Miller, so we'll have a bad table Melow
- 1:11:00can stay healthy. Yeah, he's getting a lot of hype right now too,
- 1:11:03from a lot of teams. So I do think that if he's not
- 1:11:06taken around here, I do think teams next up, which is going to
- 1:11:10be probably my team, will probably take him as soon as he falls.
- 1:11:14But I kind of want the guy that we're projected to get right now.
- 1:11:15But I don't know what I see from him entirely, But all I see
- 1:11:21is that he's a good offensive player. Yeah, well, that's that's all
- 1:11:25he is. You don't have to worry about the defense here. He's just
- 1:11:28somebody who could just be a microwave type type of player. So it's just
- 1:11:33somebody who's going to bring buckets to your team. He's an older player,
- 1:11:36so he's going to be able to start right away. He's been in the
- 1:11:40system for a while. He might not have upside as far as compared to
- 1:11:45these other players, but he's going to be somebody who could contribute to a
- 1:11:48team right away. And I feel like the Hornets that's exactly what they need.
- 1:11:51They don't need to develop players. They don't need to develop because they
- 1:11:57already have Brandon Miller and LaMelo Ball already. That's a young team. You
- 1:12:00need somebody who's ready to play alongside them. But as far as for this
- 1:12:04seventh overall the projected pick right here, I know they got DeAndre Aiden last
- 1:12:09year on the offseason, but Donovan Klingen, the center from Yukon, I
- 1:12:14know there's mixed feelings about him right here, but how do you feel about
- 1:12:17him going to the Trailblazers here. I don't think he'll be available for the
- 1:12:21Troublazers at seven. I do think some of the team's going to trade up
- 1:12:24and grab him, or he's gonna get drafted in the top three. I
- 1:12:27just I just do think he's he's he's a very reliable reboundary, great defender
- 1:12:32in the interior, and he can he can kind of get a little bit
- 1:12:36interior offense around him. It's just it's just kind of weird that I think
- 1:12:41he would follow the seven of Portland. That's a pretty big steep fall for
- 1:12:44him considering Yeah, people are considering him to go to Helena at one in
- 1:12:46some more yet and even going to a team trading up to the top three
- 1:12:51to get him. So I don't know. I don't know how he's available
- 1:12:55here at seven in this mock draft. But for if the Pros are able
- 1:12:58to get him and pair him alongside DeAndre and that's a big move for them.
- 1:13:01Yeah, I would really like this move right here. I feel like
- 1:13:04he's somebody with the high floor. Worst case scenario, he'll be a good
- 1:13:10offensive player as far as catching lobbs, being a rebounder. He's just as
- 1:13:15smart. He's just a smart player, and as far as defensively too.
- 1:13:19But if he's able to develop offensively, he could end up being like a
- 1:13:25Marc Gasol type. I've seen a bunch of comps like that. I don't
- 1:13:28think that good, but somewhere around that area because he's just He's also somebody
- 1:13:33who's who's not slow on their feet, Zach Edie. But he's somebody who's
- 1:13:39not slow on their feet, and he could match up. I'm not saying
- 1:13:43he's gonna stop Nicola Jokic or any of those guys, but he'll be that's
- 1:13:46gonna be somebody you're you're gonna be able to throw a body at with Donovan
- 1:13:50Klingen. If you want to put a center who has interior presence to guard
- 1:13:56Nikola Jokic from this draft, this would be the main guy right here.
- 1:14:00But as far as the other pick for the San Antonio Spurs, they're projected
- 1:14:05to get another point guard. Well, I know Stef Stephan Castle, he
- 1:14:09could play the two guard as well. But Rob Dillingham from Kentucky right here.
- 1:14:14How are you feeling about this? Would you like back to back playmakers
- 1:14:17here in the draft or how you feeling I wouldn't be particularly mad at it
- 1:14:24because the situation of need for us is point guard and playmakers and passing and
- 1:14:29and just just spacing because Rob billing Ken knock down the three a three point
- 1:14:33shot kind of consistently, and he's a great offensive player when it comes to
- 1:14:38passing getting to the room. But the thing is that kind of sways me
- 1:14:41away from him is his size. He's a smaller player, and his defense
- 1:14:45kind of lacks lacks quite a bit, especially going to the NBA where the
- 1:14:48where the where the average player it's a lot taller than six to four that
- 1:14:58point guard. Now, it's just kind of hard for him to play defense.
- 1:15:00I think this is a player that a lot of teams will take a
- 1:15:01swing on. I would love to see a big man take it for us
- 1:15:04around this area due to us needing another interior presence. If if Rob if
- 1:15:11if what's his face, Donovan Klingen is there, I said, we better
- 1:15:15trade up to that. That's a lot of he's right there. But if
- 1:15:18give Rob Dilliam, I'm not mad at it. It's just a it's just
- 1:15:21a swing we might have to take. Yeah, I feel like Rob Dillingham,
- 1:15:27that's somebody who also has another or a lot of potential to even though
- 1:15:30he is on the smaller side, six one, six two. He has
- 1:15:35a bunch of speed and he could finish at the rim. And that's somebody
- 1:15:39who's in the darn Fox type of mold, somebody who could create their own
- 1:15:43shot and honestly like this idea right here. Obviously, Donovan Klingon he's there.
- 1:15:48I know you said you want another interior player. But if you're able
- 1:15:53to get two point guards, or if you're able to get Rob Dillingham and
- 1:15:57Stefan Castle nampare him next to win and be Jeremy Sohan, Keldon Johnson,
- 1:16:00Trey Jones, Devin Vicel, that'll be a great fit right there. I
- 1:16:04feel like that'll upstart with the San Antonio Spurs they're trying to do. But
- 1:16:12before we get into the rest of the top twelve, we're gonna kind of
- 1:16:17take a little bit of a break here, Okay, And we're back from
- 1:16:23our little break right here. We finished off with the San Antonio Spurs with
- 1:16:27the eighth pick getting robbed in on him. So this next one for the
- 1:16:30mock draft, the Memphis Grizzlies, who have the ninth pick. They're projected
- 1:16:34to get Cody Williams, Jalen Williams brother. How are you feeling about that
- 1:16:39one, josh Uh. I think this is gonna be a good move because
- 1:16:45for the Memphis chrizls we're talking defensively six eight seven foot one wingspan due to
- 1:16:48Munster bro Like he's Jalen Williams brother. Let's just let's just put it like
- 1:16:54that, you know, like he's he's and he plays he plays like a
- 1:17:00facilitating role, like a shooting guard and like a small ford And he's a
- 1:17:03good defensive player, and he's and he's getting a little bit better at his
- 1:17:09preimer to shooting. So he has a lot of potential, especially with his
- 1:17:12size, and I do think developing that in an NBA system will help him
- 1:17:15out tremendously. Yeah, and especially since he's a catch and shoot player,
- 1:17:21he's going to be somebody who's a great role player and the defense that's already
- 1:17:26there. Maybe he can end up being best case scenario with Jaden McDaniel somewhere
- 1:17:30along the line. I don't think he'll be as good as Jade, but
- 1:17:34he'll definitely be a complimentary piece. I think that's the biggest thing in this
- 1:17:39draft. I don't know how you're feeling about it, Josh, I think
- 1:17:43there's not a lot of star talent, but there's a bunch of role player
- 1:17:48talent in this draft. There's potential. There's potential for this draft. Yeah,
- 1:17:55And speaking of that, somebody with a bunch of potential. This tenth
- 1:17:58overall pick right here with the Utah Jazz is projected to be Nicola Topicch,
- 1:18:02who is somebody who was projected to be all the way potentially a top three
- 1:18:06pick, somebody who you wanted now follow him because of that a c L
- 1:18:11a c L tear or apparently, So, how are you feeling about him
- 1:18:15right here? I do think if you're in the Utah Jazz are able to
- 1:18:18draft him to steal they compare them with lowry marketing, but they'll have to
- 1:18:21set I think you said him out a year. I think you treat them
- 1:18:24like chet home Grin Joel and be Blake Girffin. I think you said about
- 1:18:28one year. Let him he'll let him learn the system mentally, let him
- 1:18:31learn what it's like to travel on the road, let him learn. Just
- 1:18:34give them, give them a red shirt season. He's gonna get a red
- 1:18:39shirt season. I do think that's the best move for him to heal up
- 1:18:43all the injuries that he does have, and I do think he can develop
- 1:18:45into a great passer in this league. I see a lot of maybe a
- 1:18:49Ricky Rubio with a lot more upside for him. Okay, so maybe like
- 1:18:54a bigger Steve Nash. Yeah, let's just say that. But I don't
- 1:18:58know if Steve Nash is pushing it. Yeah, well, okay, not
- 1:19:01as good, but not as good, but a bigger version of Steve Nash
- 1:19:05if that makes sense, yep. So, or maybe he could end up
- 1:19:11going back and maybe giving a run at it next year with Cooper flag Garland.
- 1:19:15Yeah, maybe a Darius Garland that that would be a good move right
- 1:19:18there. But that's this is somebody with a bunch of upside right here.
- 1:19:23And the Utah Jazz they they're desperately they desperately need talent. Bring san Antonio.
- 1:19:31Really, you would like the Larry Margatin fit with Wimby. Yeah,
- 1:19:35I think it would work out. Mm hm. I never thought about that
- 1:19:40one right there. But all right, eleventh overall pick belongs to the Chicago
- 1:19:45Bulls, and I'll let you give your feelings about it first. It has
- 1:19:48them projected to take Devin Carter from Providence. So how are you feeling about
- 1:19:54this one right here? I don't know much about about this this player in
- 1:20:00particular, so I don't have too much of an opinion. I just maybe
- 1:20:03they're looking to add another guard to pairalleng Kobe White with the potential of Zack
- 1:20:08Lavinia and DeMar DeRos and leaving out maybe this could create another Okay, I
- 1:20:12don't know how I feel about it, to be honest, Because you want
- 1:20:14Kobe White with the ball in his hands was tremendous this year. Do you
- 1:20:16want to take another player? Do you want to get another player to take
- 1:20:19the ball out of his hands, you know, and put him back to
- 1:20:21being a straight shooter. I don't think so. So I don't know how
- 1:20:25I feel about getting a point guard. Maybe I think looking for maybe like
- 1:20:29a small forward to a center type prospect for the Bulls maybe a lot better
- 1:20:32than adding another point guard. I don't know how you feel about it,
- 1:20:35So I think number one for me somebody who I hope falls is Donovan Klingen.
- 1:20:42But I wouldn't mind this Devin Carter pick. And as much as he's
- 1:20:46a point guard, I feel like he would be a two guard. So
- 1:20:50he's somebody who could shoot the ball, shoot the lights out of the ball.
- 1:20:54He's a catch and shoot player, but he's better off the ball.
- 1:20:58So that would definitely be good right there. And he could potentially be a
- 1:21:01three potentially in small ball lineups. So even though he's listed as a point
- 1:21:06guard because of his size, he's more of a two or three. That's
- 1:21:11what he really is. And that's and you can't have enough of those players
- 1:21:15right there. Those players are always somebody who's going to be contributing to winning,
- 1:21:19and that's something I want my Chicago Bulls to do badly. But all
- 1:21:25right, this twelfth overall pick, the last one that we're going to get
- 1:21:28into is the Oklahoma City Thunder. And let me see if I can say
- 1:21:31this name right to Jane Saloon. That's how you say the power forward from
- 1:21:35France. So the Thunders are projected to get him. He's real inconsistent.
- 1:21:43But how are you feeling about this or do you think they should go somewhere
- 1:21:45else? I think the Oklahoma Stague under anyone they draft, is going to
- 1:21:51develop into a good player and play that role pretty great. I do think
- 1:21:55with him. He does have He's six foot ten, he plays good defense,
- 1:22:00and he can he has good he can make it a lot, he
- 1:22:03can shoot the ball. Well, it's just there is the inconsistency. He
- 1:22:06has a lot of turnover problems, but that comes with being young. He's
- 1:22:10only eighteen years old. There's a lot to grow from, and so I
- 1:22:13do think this could be a still for Oklahoma City if they if they're able
- 1:22:15to snack him here as well, especially being a sixteen player that you can
- 1:22:17pair alongside of chet Holme Green and maybe control the interior or a lot better.
- 1:22:24Yeah, that's some It seems like that's the main thing, the thunder
- 1:22:27they're looking for. So this would make sense somebody who's around a six eight,
- 1:22:30six y ten range just to get bigger players, even if they don't
- 1:22:34specifically get a center here. So I would really like this pick, and
- 1:22:40they're really good at developing players, so it wouldn't be something where I'm concerned.
- 1:22:44As far as him turning into a good role player, I think he
- 1:22:46could be exactly that. But all right, we got done with the top
- 1:22:50twelve right here, I just have a quick question for you. Who do
- 1:22:56you think is going to be the surefire player from this draft? Right here?
- 1:23:00Somebody you know that's gonna end up being a good player, Jared McCain.
- 1:23:08And here's why. Okay, shooter, great three point shooter. He's
- 1:23:12already gonna have that coming into the league. I'm not saying he's gonna turn
- 1:23:15into this great All Star player, but we're talking about a consistent player year
- 1:23:19and in y're out. I think he's a surefire for me. I do
- 1:23:21think he plays a point guard position very well. He's a great facilitary,
- 1:23:25he's a great scorer. I do think he can shoot the three point shot
- 1:23:28very well. The thing is that's gonna bother me a little bit is his
- 1:23:30defense. His defense may lack a little bit just due to him being a
- 1:23:36smaller guard around six foot three. I mean, yeah, if we're looking
- 1:23:40a couple of years ago, that would have been very small, but now
- 1:23:42in today's NBA that's a little bit on the smaller side. But yeah,
- 1:23:45I do think that he has the potential to turn into a great, a
- 1:23:49three point facilitating player, and I do think that's why he'll I think he'll
- 1:23:53be a consistent player in this league. So somebody who is one of my
- 1:23:57favorite players, and I'm a little bit biased, here is Ron Holland.
- 1:24:00So he he kind of had a down year in the G League. Ignight,
- 1:24:03he was expected to be a top ten pick for sure. Now he
- 1:24:08may not even be a lottery pick. But that's this just somebody who you
- 1:24:13just want to talk about as far as just being a clear athlete and being
- 1:24:16and there's a clear difference between the two, and he could knock down threes.
- 1:24:20I think this is somebody who could end up being like a Tyree Smacksy
- 1:24:26type of Tyree I would say, like a small forward version of Tyree Smaxy,
- 1:24:30somebody who's like a microwave player who could get their who would get their
- 1:24:33shot off at any given moment. But I don't know if you want to
- 1:24:39talk about anything else here from the draft or you just want to go ahead
- 1:24:43and get into this last last topic right here. Let's get into this last
- 1:24:46time, Okay. So now with the NBA Finals ending for agency, it's
- 1:24:51now here and there's a couple of players that are available on the market right
- 1:24:58here. Obviously there's Paul George Pascal Siakam he got re signed. There's potentially
- 1:25:02Tyree s Maasey Lebron player option Ogi Anenobi. What's one player right here that
- 1:25:09you're really looking out for. I do think Paul George is gonna be the
- 1:25:15biggest move. I think he's gonna be the game changer for a lot of
- 1:25:18teams. I do think him being the veteran that he is, future Hall
- 1:25:23of Famer, I believe able to do the things offensively that he can do,
- 1:25:28and always being a great defender. He's thirty four years old, so
- 1:25:30there's not a lot of time left on his clock right now. He's he's
- 1:25:33he's fighting father time. So I do think he's gonna go to a contender,
- 1:25:39and he's gonna he's gonna booster a team to a championship level team.
- 1:25:42I do think, I think so. I think I'm looking at wherever Paul
- 1:25:45George goes. So I know there's been rumors about obviously as far as the
- 1:25:51Sixers being the main one. Now I know the MAVs are being brought up,
- 1:25:56the Knicks. What would you think would be his best fit for him
- 1:26:00where they could win a championship. Dang, it's tough if if I had
- 1:26:14to pick one, I think he fits into any system though, Yeah,
- 1:26:18I could see that, I could see that he definitely player either, So
- 1:26:23yeah, it's kind of like he's not going to demand the ball like he
- 1:26:26when he gets the ball, he's going to get the ball, you know,
- 1:26:28but like, yeah, now he's not coming down the court demanding it
- 1:26:31to be the guy bringing it up and passing and making decisions like he's played,
- 1:26:35He's played with bigger player, He's played with great players his entire career.
- 1:26:40He hasn't had a problem. Yeah, so I want to say I
- 1:26:45can see him going to Philadelphia honestly and him along Joel Embiid, especially when
- 1:26:48Joel beats balance to get injured and then puts it helping Tyrese Maxie out a
- 1:26:51little bit. I think Paul George would be a good move for him.
- 1:26:55Yeah, I would definitely like that fit. That's been the most popular fit,
- 1:26:58but I I think it would be the easiest one. I'm just wondering
- 1:27:01if Paul George he's willing to give up less money, because I think he
- 1:27:08could sign it like four years, two hundred and twenty million something like that
- 1:27:12for yeah, for Max contract, potentially as signing trade. But I think
- 1:27:17I think Paul George, Yeah, he definitely is going to be the needle
- 1:27:20mover here and as far as we have to talk about it. As far
- 1:27:25as Lebron with the player option, so I feel like it's given he's gonna
- 1:27:30decline the player option so he could get more money. He's always done that,
- 1:27:34even with Cleveland, Miami and even the Lakers he did that too.
- 1:27:39So if he's not with the Lakers, where can you see him going?
- 1:27:44And why? I have no idea. I have no idea where Lebron would
- 1:27:51go right now. That's a that's a franchise altering move right there, you
- 1:27:56know. And it's just because where Lebron goes, he's the guy. I
- 1:28:02think there's only a couple of teams in this league where he won't be the
- 1:28:05number one maybe Dallas, he won't be the number one option. I argue
- 1:28:11with people, I don't think he's going to us, but I don't think
- 1:28:14he'll be the number one option in San Antonio because it's it's Wimby's league.
- 1:28:17It's Wimby's I told that, like any player that goes to this spurs better
- 1:28:20except that they're gonna be number two. There's no one that's going to be
- 1:28:24number one. I could see that, Yeah, Boston, I don't know.
- 1:28:30Maybe I don't see him going to Boston at all. Yeah, first
- 1:28:31of all, let's just get that out the way. But potentially New York,
- 1:28:36another big market, Denver. Yeah, but it's just weird, bro.
- 1:28:42I don't know, like, I don't see I there's a possibility.
- 1:28:45In my mind. I think it's fifty to fifty he stays in Los Angeles
- 1:28:47or fifty he goes elsewhere. And I can see Miami going back to Miami,
- 1:28:53yeah, going back to Cleveland as an option, okay, and then
- 1:28:58I could see New York. Okay, Okay, those are three nice options
- 1:29:02right there. I think the best move for him, where I feel like
- 1:29:08it would work the best would definitely be which this is a dream scenario,
- 1:29:13which is new to Miami. I don't think he'll go back to Miami because
- 1:29:16there I don't think him and Eric Strolzer really get along. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:29:19yeah. And then pat Riley, the whole pat Riley thing. So
- 1:29:23I think we eliminate Miami honestly. Yeah. Okay, yeah, So New
- 1:29:27York, Cleveland, and then there's there's always Dallas. Dallas has always been
- 1:29:31rumored even before he left Cleveland. The second time that was that was a
- 1:29:36rumor for Dallas too, Luca and Kyrie. That just isn't that just doesn't
- 1:29:42feel like, yeah, no, that that doesn't that doesn't sound right right
- 1:29:45there. But it would definitely be a better third option than what we were
- 1:29:49talking about. But I feel like it would be too much. It would
- 1:29:53be too much. But this rumor too but Pho Phoenix has no money,
- 1:29:58so I don't get how that. Yeah, I know that would definitely not
- 1:30:01work. What maybe Bradley Bill, But the Lakers, I'm pretty sure they
- 1:30:05don't want the Bradley Bill contract. But I think I think, without a
- 1:30:11doubt, I'm pretty confident I think that Lebron he's gonna go back to the
- 1:30:14Lakers. He's just gonna go up for some more money. Him and Ad
- 1:30:18they're gonna be there and try to run it back, maybe another run.
- 1:30:23They still were one of the better teams in the league last year. Just
- 1:30:27injuries, lineups, they killed them. They killed them. But the last
- 1:30:31domino that we have to talk about is as far as James Harden. James
- 1:30:36Harden, he got traded to the Clippers and now he's a free agent.
- 1:30:43So where do you think he's going. Do you think he's staying back in
- 1:30:46the Clippers or do you think he's going somewhere else now, because even though
- 1:30:50he may not be a needle mover, he's definitely somebody who contribute to a
- 1:30:55playoff team here not him and Kyrie don't get along either. Maybe New York
- 1:31:10may okay, I just feel like New York's can get thrown around so many
- 1:31:14times this offseason. I don't see him going to a team like Indiana is
- 1:31:17too small of a market for him. Yeah, Orlando, No, he's
- 1:31:25not going too I don't know. Maybe the only one, the only one
- 1:31:31that I see from this older group is Paul George. Who's who's able to
- 1:31:35fit into any role he goes into. You know, Yeah, it's just
- 1:31:40hard for me to gauge where these guys are going. With James Harden and
- 1:31:43Lebron mm hmm. Yeah, No, that's true because they're they are very
- 1:31:46bald, dominant players, and they're definitely gonna have a lot of the attention,
- 1:31:50not necessarily be the number one option, but be seen as a number
- 1:31:55one option, if that makes sense. But as far as teams who need
- 1:32:03to improve the most in free agency or who just who are just a piece
- 1:32:06away, what's a couple of teams or one team you think that's just a
- 1:32:11piece away from making that title run for you or making that next jump for
- 1:32:15you. Because for example, for for me, I would definitely say the
- 1:32:21Oklahoma City Thunder. They're definitely definitely a piece away. Maybe they get Isaiah
- 1:32:28Harvenstein this offseason and that'll definitely help with their rim protection problems and be a
- 1:32:33rotation piece for CHET because the rebounding it was, it was definitely seen against
- 1:32:39some maps, So that would definitely be a piece. Maybe Indiana, Okay,
- 1:32:45maybe Paul George back to Indiana. Yeah, I think they could be
- 1:32:49a move away because I do think they played very well against the Boston Celtics,
- 1:32:54even without they were the number one offense in the entire NBA first of
- 1:32:58all. Yeah, even with out Tarre's Halliburton, they were able to put
- 1:33:01up their own and be within games in crunch time, and they had another
- 1:33:03veteran on that team. Maybe they were in the championship. Okay, I
- 1:33:08could see that that that'll definitely be a good move. But I think that's
- 1:33:13pretty much everything right there for or for this episode. So before we wrap
- 1:33:17it up, we always have our so called MVPs. We do it every
- 1:33:21single week, Josh, who's your so called MVP of the week. My
- 1:33:28so called m VP for me is gonna be Joe Missoula. And I'll say,
- 1:33:32why nothing on the court. I'm gonna make this off the court with
- 1:33:36what he believes in his faith, the Catholic boy doing the Rosary before and
- 1:33:41after games, wearing what first thing Jesus when he wore sure on the before
- 1:33:46the in his interview at the end, I'm gonna give him the so called
- 1:33:49MVP of the week. We need more of those guys. Yeah, no,
- 1:33:54no doubt, But I would say my so called MVP. I feel
- 1:33:59like there's just gonna be the easy answer here at Jaylen Brown winning finals MVP,
- 1:34:02having as many finals MVPs as Steph Curry. That that's all I'm gonna
- 1:34:08say. No shot at Steph Curry, but he definitely deserved it after getting
- 1:34:12that big contract last year. People giving him a bunch of slack for it,
- 1:34:15but he definitely did prove himself this year, even though he didn't get
- 1:34:18an All NBA team all that, but in the postseason, he definitely proved
- 1:34:23his three hundred million dollar contract worth. But any last words you gotta say
- 1:34:28before we get out of here, Josh. Now, let's just have a
- 1:34:30good week, ladies and gentlemen. I pray for Kevin Brink safe, fast,
- 1:34:38and speedy recovery. And then yeah, let's get get ready for some
- 1:34:43working about to get ready for some fantasy football, Yes, sir, get
- 1:34:46into that, get ready for the NFL offseason, NBA offseason. It's gonna
- 1:34:50be it's gonna be a weird time for us because it's a little dark period.
- 1:34:54But yeah, we have a lot of content coming, so be prepared,
- 1:34:58yes, sir, exactly. Yeah, yeah, pray for pray for
- 1:35:00camera bring aka my girl. Pray for hopeful, hopeful, the speed,
- 1:35:03speedy recovery. And also another thing is that I know people they may not
- 1:35:11be listened to this last part of the episode, But all I'm just saying
- 1:35:15is the last time we played basketball. Whenever we did, all I'm just
- 1:35:18saying is I at the game, win over. Josh. That's that's the
- 1:35:23last. That's the last thing I gotta say. Whenever we play again,
- 1:35:26we're probably gonna bring it up again. But yeah, we're gonna go see,
- 1:35:30we're gonna go and get out of here. NBA Draft, We're gonna
- 1:35:33talk about reactions to that next week Fantasy football talk like Josh was mentioning,
- 1:35:39but we're gonna go and get out of here, you guys. Y'all take
- 1:35:41care. We'll see you guys next week