Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / The Big Issues 9 December 2020

Transcript

The Big Issues 9 December 2020 · 360 with Katie Woolf

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Mix one oh four point nine's three sixty and well,
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: I had to cut the song short because they're in.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: The studio with us right now.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: The big issues, and it is of course brought to you.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: By Simon Wat's Real Estate Central.
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: I'm a bloud to say you didn't even mention Simon
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: what to cut the song off. Business come one.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: He will sell your home in five weeks Simon Watts
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: real Estate Central, or he'll refund one hundred percent of
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: all your marketing costs. Go to What's way dot Nett
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: for all the details.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: And it is for the big issues.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: And if you hadn't heard them already, Dave told her
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: and Damian Hale join me in the studio right now.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Good morning to you both.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: I'm thrilled to be here with Haley, are you oh good?
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Good to have you boys in the studio. Gee, there's
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: always lots of mister.
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: Big fully you know he's it's just not the same
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: with any like thee.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: But here's the in to your yangs.
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: Fairly well, we might be able to make the Olympics together.
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: Great dancers, break beans, break beans together.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: Say that for our last chat, last topic of the day,
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: because it's quite funny, but multiple sporting organizations are up
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: in arms after the International Olympic Committee announced breakdancing would
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: be included in the twenty twenty four Olympic Games for
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: the first time, but leading Australian breakers say they fully
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: deserve their.
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: Place in the Games.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: I tell you what I feel like, breakdancing sort of the.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: Lazy man's dance.
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: Come on on on, ang on you just you are
• 1:46
  Speaker 3: so politically incorrect. This is a sport that all genders
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: can then can play. How many of them.
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: To say what it was they play?
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: To tell the classical ballerinas that this is okay, that
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: you know it's just.
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: Off the cuff stuff? Is it is at nightclub time dancing?
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: I think they practice, they do.
• 2:10
  Speaker 4: I think I think they're wonderfully talent, Katie.
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: I've seen Hailey spinning on his head.
• 2:17
  Speaker 4: I can actually can. I used to be able to
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: do crazy leagus.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: I love watching it. I think they're enormously talented.
• 2:33
  Speaker 5: But you know one thing that's very it never surprises
• 2:37
  Speaker 5: me is the Olympic Committee. How to get a gig
• 2:40
  Speaker 5: on that committee. It's like, for delegate, that's what I
• 2:43
  Speaker 5: want to do about Delegate.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: The inclusion of the sport also meant the Olympics will
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: farewell baseball, which has major and minor league fans unhappy,
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: but also netball fans are unhappy. They've taken a social
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: media with anger over the decision, given the sport has
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: failed to be recognized by the see after twenty years
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: of loving.
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: Not enough countries probably play it. How many people? So
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: many contes playing netball.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: More than that breakdance, I think.
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: Is the highest women's participations.
• 3:17
  Speaker 5: That's the problem because the Olympics look at the how
• 3:21
  Speaker 5: many people play Like rugby league would never be an
• 3:23
  Speaker 5: Olympic sport, would it, Because there's only you.
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: Know, any twenty nations that play. Here is one nation
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: that dominates. So I think done everywhere. So netball. I
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: don't know how many Northern Hemisphere countries playing.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how many nor I don't know
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: how many hemispheres breakdance, but I think everyone breakdances when
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: you're at the clubs.
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: When we are the club.
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: Mitchell Street anymore. People driving cars.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: Got a reputation in Mitchell Street. Everybody everybody runs and hides.
• 4:00
  Speaker 5: It's driving trying to treat the treat the pubs up
• 4:03
  Speaker 5: Mitchell Street would drive throughs even if they haven't got them.
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: Did you actually did you hear convat Scarlets this morning?
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: He's all in favorite, but he's not going to do
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: it without consultation.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: What a hair brain really?
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: You know, if you missed this part of the show.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: A little bit earlier this morning, we caught up with
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: the Lord Mayor of dah and Combat Scarlets and he
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: said that he would consult and if businesses came forward
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: and wanted to close off Mitchell Street in the nighttime
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: hours to allow piety.
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: The bollards will pop automatically out of the road walking
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: across the If you lived in Mitchell Street, you've got
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: to six o'clock curfew before you can get your car
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: downtown and breakdeat.
• 4:51
  Speaker 5: But you can just haven't blocked off from you can
• 4:53
  Speaker 5: block it off from the Mitchell Center to Shenanigans and.
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: Haven't like that little area there gets glassed in throb
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: or somewhere like that. Well one of those place one street,
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: but anyway on street you knows on troll but all
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: of a sudden they got to carry your up to
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: the bollarde to make the ambulance.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I kind of wonder like a serious note, is it, like,
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: you know, is it going to actually hinder businesses if
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: they did something like this?
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: Or what?
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: Thinkin most hair brain thing that's even been cooked up?
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: But you've got to remember who were Mary.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: It's a big call to say it's the most hair
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: thing that's ever been cooked up.
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: I reckon, We've had a few other hair brained ideas.
• 5:41
  Speaker 4: I just think Constantine keeps himself constant.
• 5:46
  Speaker 5: I like, I'll just think I wouldn't say job the
• 5:53
  Speaker 5: fact that we're going to spend ten minutes talking about.
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: Him, he'll be a big shout out to the me.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: Well, there's plenty.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: We have other things to discuss, And I know I
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: did want to take you across to this story that's
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: being reported in the Australian today. China's ban on beef
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: imports sorry from several Australian avatars has costed the industry
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, while eight meat works wait
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: to resume trade now. Last year, exports of red meat
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: to China were valued at about three billion dollars, making
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: it Australia's most lucrative agriculture export market. But the Australian
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Meat Industry Council says sales have fallen by almost thirty
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: percent year on year. There's no doubt that this issue
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: that we've got with China at the moment is having
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: a massive impact on us when it comes.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: To exports imports. However you want to look at it,
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: it's gonna meet.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: There's also talk about an unofficial bean on Australian coal
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: I read today that twenty percent of export well exports
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: are down by twenty percent by Port Newcastle. Now Newcastle
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: Port is the busiest coal port in the world and
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: they've seen all of their exports to China dry up,
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: although nothing has officially been said, so you know, I
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: think there's some real concerns about a free trade agreement,
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: whether we actually do have free trade with China or body.
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: Easy to list what's not banned.
• 7:18
  Speaker 5: At the moment, but I think cool heads have got
• 7:20
  Speaker 5: to prevail and they've got to get back.
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that the diplomatic level there will be plenty
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: of talk. There's a lot of.
• 7:25
  Speaker 5: Retoric going on amongst the politicians, but you know, I
• 7:29
  Speaker 5: think it's got to a stage now where you know,
• 7:32
  Speaker 5: Scott Morrison's almost has to get in a plane and
• 7:35
  Speaker 5: go and sort this out, because it's going nowhere and
• 7:38
  Speaker 5: it's affecting you know, it's affecting a lot of industries
• 7:41
  Speaker 5: in Australia.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: We do have a free trade agreement with China, and
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: somewhere along the line, somebody's going to say, he's that valid.
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: Do we have a valid agreement with you guys? Are
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: we trading freely or are we going to enter into
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: a trade war?
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: I did say it though last week. I think with you, Dave,
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: you know, this all seems to have.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Stared from the Prime Minister just asking for an investigation
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: into where the coronavirus came.
• 8:06
  Speaker 4: From a little bit harder.
• 8:11
  Speaker 5: Start.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: That was when they got the shits with us.
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: Well they did, they did get the shits with us.
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: But I think we've sort of been drawn into a
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: fight as well. Clearly, you know, in a security sense,
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: we are very close to the US and long may
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: that continue.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: But so is it more about our alliance you reckon
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: with the US.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: So clearly where we are aligned with the US, and
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think that that's about to change at all,
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: you know, but they're trying to exert pressure on Australia.
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: Australia is an easy target. You know. I constantly say
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: I can understand the fight that the US has with China.
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: They've got a five hundred billion dollar trade deficit in Australia.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, we've got a massive trade surplus
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: with China. They are our biggest customer by far. We
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: don't have the same concerns that the Americans have. There's
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: not a whole lot of IP being stolen from Australia.
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: We can sort of, you know, we can jump and
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: shadows and that sort of stuff, but you know, Australia
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: is you know, when you look at in comparison to
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: Silicon Valley and that sort of stuff, you know, IP theft,
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: all of those sort of things that Trump and others
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: have raised, I think are valid concerns with the Chinese.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: So what do you reckon then of this.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether the legislation is due to pass
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: through parliament today the Federal Parliament, or whether it's up
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: for debate what the situation is exactly, But what do
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: you think of this legislation then that's going through the
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Federal Parliament About those agreements between you know, different states
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: and the Chinese government, i e. That One Belt one
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Road initiative national.
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: Interest type legislation in there. And I think Dave makes
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: a good point.
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: In regards to our reliance on China, and I think
• 9:56
  Speaker 5: what it's signaled is that we need to diverse countries
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: that we're exporting to.
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: Now that's not.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely that's with the life cattle trade. When that live
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: export being, it's like the center of the territories beef
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: went Indonesia. We can't have such a reliance on one.
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: I'm not speaking derogatory at all of the China relationship.
• 10:18
  Speaker 5: I think it's really important. But there's also other countries
• 10:22
  Speaker 5: to our north that are really growing in their middle
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: class and they're developing quickly, and I think that we
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: should be engaging across a wide range of countries to
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: sell our products, you know. And it's shown now that
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: a little bit of pushback from China and our economy
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: really starts to get shaped.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know that the beef being is going to
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: hurt us so much. I mean that the reality is
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: Australia exported very little beef to China. It was only
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: in the creation of that free trade agreement that we
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: eventually did start to export some beef to China, but
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: it's not a large part of our market. On the
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: other hand, is a very large part of our market. Similarly,
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: iron ore, now there's nothing been said about iron ore
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: at the moment, or coking coal for that matter, which
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: is the coal that's used for steel making as opposed
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: to coal that's used in power stations. But they are
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: seemingly putting on the list a big slow down on
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: thermal coal.
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: Also, I think too with the wine makers, you know
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: where their industry has been hit with a nearly three
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: hundred percent tariff and there's a lot of internal pressure
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: apparently in China from their own domestic wine producers that
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: don't produce anywhere near the product, but they're saying, you know,
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: you're letting this Australian wine in and they're not able
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: to be competitive against and especially pricing wise, So the
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: tariff was put into place. So we're not always aware
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: of what internal pressures have been pushed around domestically in
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: China from as they as they grow and as they
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: get stronger industries over there.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: it is the big issues and you can sell your
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: home in five weeks with Simon watts from Real Estate Central,
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: or he will refund one hundred percent of all your
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: marketing costs. Go the What's Way, that is whatsway dot
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: net for details. Well, I'm not sure if you heard
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: a little earlier this morning we caught up with the
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Community and Public Sector Union's anti regional secretary Kay Densley
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: and discuss the fact that unions have really made their
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: view quite clear on the government announcing that wage freeze.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: The plans for a wage freeze.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: They did have about fifty people rally on the stairs
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: of Parliament House yesterday from the Australian Education Union, the
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: United Workers Union, Electrical Trade Union and the Australian Nursing
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: and Midwiffree Union. Apparently they all gathered to really voice
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: their concerns about this pay freeze. Now. I spoke to
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Kay Densley on the show earlier. She said that they
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: have written to the Chief Minister. They're trying their has
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: to try and sit down with him and talk this
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: through to this stage though to no avail, I mean,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: is it strange that the Chief.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Minister is not prepared to meet with the unions, do
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: you think, Hailey?
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, con Haley, Comrade Haley I think one of them.
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: I think what the unions do, and as a former
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: unionist and.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: I don't work for the anymore, and you get your
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: right of entries taken.
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: Off you as well.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: So it's not only the birthplace for labor politicians, it's
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: also the burial place.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, David used to Dave used
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: to work for the super funds. So you just got
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: to make sure he is upfront and honest about where
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: he used to get a living from before he became
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: a liberal.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: But anyway, we won't go into that with David.
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: The fact of the matter is that the unions will
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: represent their members and the secretaries, no doubt that there's
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: always going to be argie bargie between the unions and
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: the government of the day, whether it's Labor or Liberal,
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: and the secretaries of the unions up here and the organizers,
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: they're fundamentally will be representing the interests of their members,
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: and their members are probably up in arms over the
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: decision that the Chief Minister and the government's made.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: What side of the what side of the Labor Party
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: does does Michael Gunner sittor.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Michaels that's probably my question for him to Michael was.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: Michael was aligned to Unity through the SDA.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: So you look at the right side of the party
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: for those non comrade is the shop.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: T WU, the a w U, and that's where Michael
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: initially sat. But when he became leader, like a lot
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: of the leaders do, they un aligned. They don't sort
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: of get too much into the factional politics and they'll
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: sit more in the middle.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Correct to think that that the unions are no longer
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: supporting him.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: No, that wouldn't That wouldn't be the case of all?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Is that aligned?
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: Even even a fight with Michael Gunner between the unions
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: and Michael Gunner and the Labor Party is way better
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: option than dealing with the liberals every day as a
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: government for the union movement.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: So you need to the problem with the.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Unions is when the liberals are in the liberals actively
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: getting little rooms and Dave's been in the rooms and
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: they try to work out ways of stuffing up the
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: unions right, undermining the unions, affecting their membership. But it
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: actually by doing that it plays into the union's hands
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: because it makes it more effective and easier when you've
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: got the government belting you up. So the Labor Party
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't sit around the rooms.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: The Labor Party, let.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Me finish, the Labor Party doesn't sit around in rooms
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: thinking up ways of hurting their supporter base.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: So is this a warrior at the moment or is
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: everybody just sort of playing whip service.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: No, there's always going to be argie bargie, and there's
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: politics at play and all this sort of stuff. And
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: it's the first term of a four year term.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: And of course, and the fundamental while the union movement
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: underpins the Labor Party, the Labor Party is the political wing,
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: and the unions of the industrial wing. They don't always
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: see why do I? And the unions should always put
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: their members before the Labor Party, and that's what this
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: group of unions are doing, as they should.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just a demonstration of sort of moronic,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: you know, out of touchness. I mean, these people, you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: how irresponsible can you get? Bay, we got an eight
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: billion dollar debt. You know they should be in their
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: slap and gunner on the back and saying, thank god
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: you haven't sacked five thousand of us. You know, that's
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: the real I mean, that is the reality. And you
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: got these idiots sitting there. All right, all be it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: It's only fifty of them, but it's a demonstration of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the mentality of the leadership of the unions that they
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: lead fifty people up there to complain about, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: the fact that they've got jobs. I mean, most people
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: have lost jobs all over the place in the private sector.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: But these people are so out of touch. I think
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: they can go and protest and whatnot and carry on
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: about the fact that their rages have been frasen for
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: a little while. The reality is we got eight billion
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of debt. The biggest bill we've got is
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the public service. Everybody knows we've got more public servants
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: than we need. Bureaucracy is just out of hen in
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. Nothing can happen fundamentally. It's because we've
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: got too many public servants. And these morons are sitting there.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Instead of saying thank you to Michael Gunner for trying
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: to find ways to keep them in jobs, they're out
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: there protesting. I just can't imagine anything more irresponsible.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: In all my time, I've never thought that i'd hear
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Dave Toland defend Michael Gunner.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: When well I mean Michael Gunner. I think Michael Gunner
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: has been pretty damn weak in the fact that he
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: hasn't addressed the financial crisis in the Northern Territory. He's
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: done nothing, and in actual fact, everybody you know, he
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: talks about spurring on the economy by cutting red tape
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: and all of that sort of stuff. Meanwhile he leaves
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: twenty three thousand public servants to get in the way
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: of business. You know, it's just wrong, it's just completely
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: public servants.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Did you move along when.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: You're treasurer the public service? And I got to say
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: this was one of the great failings. The public service
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: grew by one hundred and twenty over the four years
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that we were in government, right, which is as good
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: as a public service freeze. Now I would have liked
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: to see a reduction in public servants, but it was
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit difficult at the time. We couldn't even
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: do the most menial belt tightening before everybody was carrying
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: on like crazy. You know, Manison was banging on about
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: slash and burn. She still talks about slash and burn.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: There was nothing slashed or burnt in the previous c
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: or P governor's nuts. It was just a little bit
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: of belt tightening. But these people are so sensitive to
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the public service that they just frazed their wages. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: instead of the Public service Union coming out and say
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: thank you, thank you for standing up for us, thank
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you for trying to keep our jobs, they go out
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and protest. I mean, how irresponsible is that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: It's an interesting situation as the week before the election
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: they were given a two and a half percent pay increase.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: How much you can trust me, Michael and Indian giver
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: they used to call that back in the old days.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: So and I think it's the wage freeze in regards.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Isn't a thousand dollars a year is what they're getting
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: instead of their incremental increase or whatever it might have
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: been two point three or two point five a year
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to cover CPI or whatever whatever happens there. Look, at
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, as I say, you go
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: back to the original argument, Dave has taken an obvious position,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: and he admitted that during his time in public service,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: even though it only grew by one hundred and twenty,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: it still grew. And how difficult it is that the
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: culture of there is a little bit of a culture
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: of entitlement in the Northern Territory, and I don't want
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: to go and upset the CPSU or upset the unions.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: But you know, it is a public service type town.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: You know, if you've got the public service on side,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: as we saw in the vote through the northern suburbs
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: of Darwin, they'll go and vote for you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Next time.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I just send us bankrupt.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, what a night to finish on.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: We are going to have to wrap up because it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just two minutes away from eleven o'clock.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I believe this.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Shock and Simon Watson. I'm really disappointed for Simon because
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: he didn't get the leading.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: That he deserves. For them, I had to prompt you
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: with s this show doesn't happen.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: That's right, it's a great sign.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just disappointed that Dave didn't do more
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: to cut the public servants.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I'd be disappointed you don't play more of those Darwood
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Ship Store rats, you know, because they are always tuning in.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: They're a big supporter of it. They're a big supporter
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: of your station here as well.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: We make sure we are always sitting there side to me.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I go to the buff Club. Quite often they're always saying, oh,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Katie as good looking as she seems.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: No doubt about that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: But I love too the stuff you played today very
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: good looking. The stuff you played today with Michael Dunner,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: haven't it was. I was driving in and I like
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: it when Michael has a blow up.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: My word, lazy. Lazy is the worst thing you can
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: call anyone in Australia. If I don't do something at home,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I get called lazy or it's the worst thing. It's lazy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I think, guys, that girl's lazy, and it's just like
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: want to I don't want to be nicknamed lazy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You are not lazy. There's no doubt.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Enjoy coming into the studio every week. And that's our
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: last big issues.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: What we having a Christmas drink?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Well, my boss did.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Actually, I was in search of rocking horse spit and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I think I've had more success getting a lunch out
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: of this Bailey's.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: It has been a decade.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Peak Davies took us for one deer. I think it
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: was just shouting back.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Then, he said, when he said he had an important engagement,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: he was straight out to the.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Past to get in trouble because we're about to go
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: over the news, so we're going to have to be
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: very fast. But thank you both very much for all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the time that you give up to be part of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the show each and every week, some of us more
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: often than othersidding you've got.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: To contract to be sent through. I'm not coming in he.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: See you both in the new year, and and thank
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you by both so much for all your time this year.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Again with you to Katie and and your listeners too well.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I get a lot of feedback around the community about
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: this show and it's it's good to still fun in
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: the waters.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Merry Christmas to everyone, Enjoy time with your family. Stay
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: safe on the roads please, you know, no crash.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Get in the hug.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I've actually I've actually trained trained myself to the minute
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: at Santa Claus this year. It's for the kids.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I'm absolutely fine tuned for Santa and then I'll go
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: off the grog and.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: In the new year January, god on you guys, we'll
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: talk to you so, thank you very much.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: It was the big issues