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Generations at odds: America’s identity crisis · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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We are faith and fury.
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Love and fire.
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This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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With your host, Joseph Pangaro.
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Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the human equation.
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I'm your host, Joseph Pangairo.
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So I've been thinking a lot about the format of our get togethers here.
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Now I like to have the panel on.
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The problem is it's been scheduling, is really the truth.
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To have uh three other people on is a scheduling nightmare.
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I could have them zoom in, you know, or some kind of internet platform.
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I prefer to have the men of the platform in the same room with me.
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We we kind of uh we get along really well, and it also helps us to interact with each other uh in real time as opposed to on the internet.
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You know, internet is kind of weird because you could see each other, and it feels like you're on camera, and people always behave differently when they're on camera than when they're just sitting talking.
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So I'm trying to think of, you know, what else can we do?
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I'm gonna get the the the panel back together.
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Because I do enjoy them and their point of view is is often very, very good.
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Enlightening we have lots of different personalities on the panel, and that's what really helps because it gives us a bigger view of the world.
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Um, because you're getting different points of view from people who see it differently, right?
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That's part of the human equation.
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So I'm thinking one of the things I might want to do is I might want to add a monologue, a specific monologue.
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Now, since it's usually just me here and you, and we're talking, I guess the whole program is really a monologue, but I I cover topics, right?
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And I think one of the things that a monologue, a specific monologue does is that I I take a uh a topic, some kind of a topic, and really focus on it and and give it give it the do that it deserves, so to speak.
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So tonight I have a couple of things I want to talk about, and I don't know how much we're gonna get to it because you know how things go.
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You you get enraptured with a particular topic, but maybe we look at some other things as well.
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So if I was to do a monologue, I think it would be something that would try to focus the intent of the program.
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So when I make my notes, when I go over topics that I want to talk about, I make notes and I try and see what things connect to other things, and you well, you know how I when I when I talk about it, I say, okay, now let's connect these dots, right?
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Or let's see where this brings us together.
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That's the purpose of what I'm trying to do here is to connect us to thinking and and ideas and whatnot.
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So if I was to do a monologue tonight, I think it would be about being an American and what it means to be an American in this modern age.
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I've been watching a lot of documentary programs.
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Now, first of all, I love documentaries, I love autobiography autobiograph- I can't say it autobiographic books uh by individuals, because you you get some idea of what were they thinking when certain things happened.
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Um how did they form their thoughts?
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You know, big things.
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Usually we we talk about, you know, memoirs of people who have done great things, and you you try and look at it from their perspective.
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Because what do they say?
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Extraordinary people are really ordinary people who are put in extraordinary circumstance.
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So what comes to mind is recently, I think it was Ohio, there was a high school there, like there are thousands and thousands of high schools across our nation.
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And this kid shows up, a student shows up with a gun to shoot people, you know, a school shooter.
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And he walks in the front door.
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First of all, I saw him just pop in the front door.
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How he just popped in the front door, I don't know why there wasn't a uh security there, why it wasn't locked.
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I don't know.
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I don't know the full story on what it was.
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But he walks in like it was nothing, he's got the gun in his hand, and out of nowhere comes the school principal.
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And I wish I I knew the the principal's name at the moment, I would give him credit.
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The video is amazing.
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You can go look at it.
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Um it should be everywhere.
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It's on all kinds of news feeds.
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This principal runs and dives on this kid and takes him down and fights him for the handgun.
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He had a handgun.
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He didn't have a rifle, he had a handgun.
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And what we know from the initial encounter is that the principal was shot in the leg as this was taking place, and he ended up wrestling the gun away from the kid and saving who knows how many people in that school, right?
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Who knows what would have happened if he didn't.
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Now, this is a man who is a school principal.
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Now, I I I've worked in schools, I was a director of school safety and security, I teach in schools.
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Uh I know lots of lots of my friends are teachers and administrators, and I got into their heads about safety and security.
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And what I know is that these teachers, and we can complain about teachers, you know, from now until the cows come home, so to speak, you know, we don't like what they're teaching in school districts, they don't like we don't like the messaging the teachers do, the flags they put up, and you know, we can all argue about all that stuff.
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What I know in the background, having been in these schools all across this country, very liberal school districts, very conservative school districts.
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To a person, I can tell you that these administrators and teachers and volunteers and everybody that are involved in these schools, they love these kids.
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They really do.
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And they care about the school experience.
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They they care about every kid.
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It's really it's it's it's it's so deep for me to sit here and try and you know pick it apart at this moment.
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All I'm telling you is that as a conservative person, going to the schools, doing the work that I do, I'm thinking, well, you know, I gotta be very careful what I say because you could offend somebody, just saying, you know, a simple thing.
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But my experience has been that no matter where they stand politically, these teachers love these kids.
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They really do, which is one of the reasons that they get involved in some of the some of the topics or some of the uh processes that maybe some of us find objectionable.
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They do it because they think they're expanding the horizon of these kids.
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They're protecting these kids.
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They are helping these kids to grow into who they really are.
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Now, we can argue that they're confused, they shouldn't do those things, they should teach uh reading, writing, and respotec.
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But the reality is each community has got to decide what it is they want to teach their kids.
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And and all I'm saying is that having been involved, um, I can tell you I've been surprised.
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I've been really surprised how much these teachers and administrators, they just they would give their lives for this kid.
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So when I see this principal run out and dive on this kid, I see an ordinary person acting in extraordinary circumstances, and that's what makes for amazing people.
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And when I think about our country, see, I'm I'm trying to connect this together.
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It's my first time trying to figure out, you know, do I do a monologue and what should it be focused or just go to a topic?
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Um America is such a unique place.
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And the more the more I experience my country and live my country and see the differences in my country, and then study the historical changes in our country, and that's why I've been watching a lot of documentaries, and that's where I started here is that I'm always on a on a search for knowledge.
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So in my company, I have a tagline that says um learning is a lifelong endeavor.
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And you say, oh, that that sounds that sounds pretty good, uh Joe.
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Learning is a lifelong endeavor.
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What does that mean?
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Well, what does that mean, actually?
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It means it's actually a reflection of a belief that I have.
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I've uh I've always been intrigued with knowing more.
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I've always been intrigued with knowing what other people think.
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Not that what somebody might think about me, it would affect me, because you know, people like you or they don't like you, even on this program.
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I get emails from people that love this show.
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They love the topics, they love the fact that I present things that are uncomfortable to think about, and they've thought about it themselves, and it's helped them to find perspective, and and that's the key.
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That's that's what I'm trying to do.
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But at the same time, I've got people that write to me that are so horrifically disgusting in their commentary, they're horrific.
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Words, their their thoughts.
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Like you say to yourself, these people need help, right?
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They need like psychological help.
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They're so twisted.
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And this is where we are today in America.
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And I hate to repeat myself over and over and over again.
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But you know what they say?
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You gotta say things three times before people get it.
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So this is the 300th time I'm gonna say this.
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But I think it's important to say it is that we used to be as a country, you know, watching these documentaries, historical documentaries, reading these autobiographical books.
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See, that's how you say it, trying to understand who we are, where did we come from as a nation?
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There's things I've learned recently that I didn't fully know.
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Nobody taught me.
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And when I look and say, why didn't they teach me these things?
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Well, because they were not the narrative that was being pushed at the time.
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So I've been in school since the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s, uh, all the way through to the year 2000 when I graduated college.
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I went, uh I was extracurricular, put it that way.
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Uh when I got out of high school, I I didn't have the opportunity to go to college, nor the money.
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So I took courses and courses and courses and course, and over the course of my life, I kept pursuing education because I wanted that degree.
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I wanted a college degree.
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Does it do anything for me in the long run?
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Well, I've been turned down for some jobs that I'm totally qualified for based on my life experience and my job experience, but I didn't have that particular piece of paper, and I got turned down.
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So I said, you know what?
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Let me just get the piece of paper.
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On top of that, taking two courses a year for many, many years as an adult, I lived the uh catchphrase for my company.
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Learning is a lifelong endeavor because things change, thoughts change, education changes, and I've been there through all of that.
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Our country has been through a lot of changes.
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And when I look at America and I see where America is today, I think of the America that I grew up in and how we looked at it, and this is what I've said.
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I again I'm I'm circling back here.
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Um for those who have heard it before, I'm sorry, is that we used to be in two different boats, but going down the same river in the same direction.
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We just had a different way of getting there.
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The people on the the progressive liberal side, they had their ideas of what we should be doing, but we're we're all going the same way in the same direction.
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And the conservatives had their way of doing things, and but we're going the same way.
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Well, in this modern world, not only are we not going in the same direction, we're not even on the same river anymore.
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We are in such a strange place in our country as to we don't even know who we are as a country.
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The battle that we're having today between traditional Americans and the progressive left is is going it's the same thing that's going on around the world.
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We haven't fallen as hard as other places, but look at Europe.
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Look at Europe and how they have gone progressive left, socialist, even into communism, though it hasn't been described as communism, they're going pretty far to the left.
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This open borders nonsense that we experienced, Europe experienced it as well.
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And it has really decimated many places in Europe.
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They they say, you know, I haven't been since it happened, but they say London is now no longer the London that we all knew about.
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It wasn't, you know, pip pip and cheerio.
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It is now a different place completely.
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It has been inundated with people from different countries who do who are not going there to assimilate to the English lifestyle, the United Kingdom's type of uh country.
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They are not looking at their history, then they are there to change the land that they're in.
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And of course, I'm talking about the uh the Muslim community that has come in.
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They're not coming in to assimilate in uh these European countries, they're coming in to take it over, and they're very clear about that.
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Uh they come out and say, hey, this is England is now a uh a Muslim country, and we will dominate you.
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Well, that might be true, and that might be okay, and that might be what the people of the United Kingdom want, and the people of France want, and the people of Spain want might be what they want.
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But I think it's something that they didn't plan on.
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In the United States, we're having the same battle going on, aren't we?
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When we see that I think 60%, the number could be higher.
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60% of young people under age 35 think socialism is a better way to go than capitalism.
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Well, what does that mean?
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Okay, they have an opinion.
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Ah, they're young people, they're stupid, they don't know, they don't like.
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The reality is, in a couple of years, I will become irrelevant as an older person.
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I will become irrelevant.
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I'll just be in the background, right?
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I'll just be an elderly person in the background, and the people in the generations before me are losing their impact, they will become irrelevant, and these young people in their teens, 20s, 30s, will become the dynamic of our country.
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And those people think socialism is better than capitalism and what brought us to this place.
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So if I was going to do a monologue, and I don't maybe this isn't my monologue, maybe this is just a practice, I don't know.
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Um, it's to bring out a point is that this country is very different than the one I grew up in.
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When I grew up in America, I was taught from my family, from my church, from my community, that America was the greatest gift to man in the entire world.
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It was the savior of mankind multiple times, and that you should be willing to give your life for your country.
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And as a young person, you know, when you're 10 and 11 and 12, that sounds great.
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That's really awesome.
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As you start to get older, you get 16 and 10, you start to become aware of the world outside of your own home and your parents, and the idea of, well, wait a minute, uh, give my life for my country.
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Hang on a second.
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And I had that moment.
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I remember when I had to go register for the selective service to be drafted.
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And I I was turning 18, and I remember my mother saying, Well, we gotta go down and register, you gotta you gotta be registered, you're turning 18.
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And we went down to the place, and I filled out the paperwork and I registered to be drafted.
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And I think that was a moment in my life as an American and as an individual person that I realized the weight of that responsibility, that if my country needed me, I would be like all those people I see on video and in the news and from movie casts in World War II and Vietnam and these people, I would be one of them.
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I would be one of those people.
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I'd be on some battlefield somewhere, somewhere in the world, fighting for my life and for and for my country, and was I ready to do that?
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Well, I had to reconcile myself to the fact that at the time I was I would say I was a little more liberal when I was I was a teenager.
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I was a rock and roll guy, and and I was a liberal, and and I thought, you know, hey, wait a minute, before you send me to war.
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Now, I was not anti-war.
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My father, um, my father was uh uh a great man for me, and I remember as a young person, he tried to sign up to go to Vietnam when he was like 28 years old, and he was married and had kids, and he thought it was the right thing to do.
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How could he not go fight for his country?
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And I remember having that conversation going, what are you doing?
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You know, going to fight.
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You're my dad.
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You can't go fight in a war.
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And he said, every generation, and my father was not a politician, he was not a highly educated man, he was a good and decent man.
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He said, every generation must be prepared to protect their country.
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And as a man, that means you may have to go fight for your country.
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And if you are called, you go.
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And I'm saying, wow.
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Now that struck me as a younger person, as a somebody who saw the world probably through the progressive left-wing eyesight, just being a young person in an age of abundance, right?
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Go back and listen to my other programs.
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I talk about abundance, and and seeing what was going on, going, I don't know if I want to do that, but the more I thought about it, the more it kind of made absolute sense to me.
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How can how can I, as a man, and this was another thing, we we saw the world, we saw the world through understanding who we were in the world.
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And I knew as a young boy growing up, I was a man.
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I wasn't a girl, I wasn't a woman, I was a man.
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You know, I was told things like, you don't hit girls.
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You protect the women in your life.
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This is what you do.
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You uh these were just these were not optional things.
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These are the things I was taught.
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And they made sense in my life.
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You know, as I saw the world as a young person, I said, Yeah, you know, can these girls get loud?
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Can they get snappy?
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Can they do this and that?
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And do they want to, you know, do they slap people?
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I saw girls slapping people, and the guys would just take the slap and step away.
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But if a guy slapped you, you'd knock his teeth out.
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But if a girl did it, you don't read you just you don't you don't hit girls, right?
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It was part of an understanding, an unwritten, an unwritten set of rules that we were taught.
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And when my father said that, and they, of course, they didn't take him.
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He was 28 year olds and 28 years old and they had kids, and they said to him, Well, thank you for coming down.
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We appreciate you want to serve your country.
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Be a good husband, be a good father, be a good citizen.
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And that's how you can help your country.
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And I know he was disappointed that he didn't get to go.
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And fight for his country.
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But he told me the lessons I thought I needed to hear from a man that I respected, right?
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So I know I'm going far afield here.
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I don't go far afield.
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I'm trying to bring it all together in that.
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The country that I grew up in was much more based on God at the center, even though my family was not as religious as my personal family is growing up.
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Um, you know, there was always God.
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There was a Bible in the house.
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Uh, we respected other people.
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We went to church uh on Easter, we went to church on Christmas, and we went to all the uh the other things, but we were not a church going family, although there was a reverence for God that God was real.
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We just didn't do the church thing.
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You know, my father worked and he was exhausted on Sunday, and he just didn't go.
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Um but I I knew other people who did go to church.
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And when I raised my family, my wife and I, we raised our family to go to church on Sunday because we took the lesson we learned from our parents, the religious understanding of what religion is, and we said, Well, they didn't do it, but we're going to do it.
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We're going to take our kids to church.
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I always said, and Kathleen and I always talked about it, and we said, you know what?
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I think we are the last generation.
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Um we are the last generation that lived in that world.
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After that, I think things really started changing.
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The way people looked at their country.
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They no longer looked at, hey, I'll go fight for my country because that's the right thing I have to do, maybe.
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They looked at it and goes, why would I go fight for this country?
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And this is when the process changed from the uh the default position being America is good, America is great, America is uh unique in the world to, you know, maybe America is not so great.
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Maybe there's other ways of living that are more fair, that are more just.
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If there's a conflict today, can you imagine these blue-haired um wishy-washy left wing anti-fa nuts joining the army and fighting to the death for their country for you and me?
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I can't.
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I I don't see it.
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I don't, I don't see it.
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We have the equipment, we have the technology, we have the power.
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And thank God we have the men and women who are red-blooded Americans signing up for the military.
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But there was a time when if you needed a bigger pool than that, you could reach out to the population, and people would come running to stand up and fight for their country.
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In World War II, we had 16-year-olds lying, saying they were 18, so they could get in there and fight.
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Do you think do you think we would have that today?
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Do you think we would we would get that today?
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I don't think we would.
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I've talked to a lot of these young people.
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Um I've had conversations with them.
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And I don't know that they would go running forward to protect their country, that they wouldn't sabotage what their country was doing on the battlefield, that they wouldn't refuse to go, that they wouldn't protest at uh, you know to go into the military.
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I don't know that they would or wouldn't.
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But I find it to be a completely different world than the world I grew up in.
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I'm trying to understand it.
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I'm trying to take into account what these people believe and why.
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But I'm also projecting forward and saying, can we survive this?
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Is this survivable with America like this?
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As opposed to the America we had in the past.
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I don't know.
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What do you think?
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What's your thoughts on this?
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You've been out there.
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We're all different generations listening to you.
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I get emails from people in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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So I'm thrilled that you're out there.
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So uh let me know.
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Here's my email.
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Get ready, get a pen, get a pencil, get your brain ready.
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J, the letter J, Pangaro, P-A-N-G-A-R-O, at America Outloud.news.
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J Pangaro at America Outloud.news.
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Let me know what you think.
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Give me your opinion on this thing.
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It's a different world, it's a different America.
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I think it's still great, and I think the Patriots, the people who are in the military and the families who support them, and I think the majority of Americans, the the Trumpers, you know, that they want to be raid all the time.
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The Trumpers would stand up and protect everyone, uh, the way traditional Americans did.
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But I don't know the progressive lefties would.
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What do you think?
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I will be back in a minute, but I'd really like to hear your opinion on that, because that's going to make a difference uh in this crazy world and how we go forward.
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Alright, welcome back, everybody.
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So for the last couple of episodes, I've been taking this opportunity to tell you about something that's an opportunity for you too.
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Now, when I talk about emails I get, text messages I get, contacts I get from people, because the show is really this show is really growing.
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It's a it's a good time slot.
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It's a good time slot, Thursday and Friday nights.
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And we've connected with a lot of people.
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We're talking into the thousands of people who are listening.
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And I heard a long time ago when I first got into you know recording and radio shows and podcasts and all that, that for every email you get, or every letter back in the day, they used to write a letter.
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For every email or every letter, that represents 10,000 people that are listening, that just the average person, you know, they listen to the show, they have their opinion.
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I used to listen to shows.
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I never called in.
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I never wrote, I never did anything, but I listened to talk radio loyally for years, all day long.
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My whole radio was on talk radio.
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I listened to all these different hosts, and I learned from all of them.
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Well, we're in that kind of uh of a world today where I if I get five, six, seven, eight uh emails from different people.
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It that's amazing.
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That tells me there's a lot of people.
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And statistically, when I ask the production people what's going on, they're saying, oh yeah, you started out with like uh 3,000 people, 4,000, went to 10 to 20 to 80 to 90.
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There's a lot of people out there listening to our program.
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And I'm glad you're out there listening.
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So I'd like to hear from you.
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But I do talk about an opportunity, an opportunity for us to get together, get to meet each other face to face, have a conversation, have a cocktail, enjoy a uh adult beverage, a uh uh fine aromatic tobacco product, as Rush Limbaugh used to say, but to to interact with each other.
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That's the purpose of America Out Loud.
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Interaction between people, uh, people who have opinions, people who have ideas, because those are the only things that ever move a society ahead.
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Ideas, opinions, and thoughts.
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So, the great Malcolm Out Loud, who created this station 10 years ago, created this whole network.
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He says we should do something for our 10th anniversary.
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We should have a get together where we can get together with listeners and interact and meet them and do programs and all that stuff.
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And this year, he says, you know what?
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We're gonna combine our 10th anniversary of America Out Loud with the 250th anniversary of the United States of America, our 250th anniversary, and we're gonna have an amazing conference, get together, whatever it is you want to call it, meeting of the minds, we're gonna do it in Nashville, Tennessee, July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of this coming year.
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Now, Nashville, Tennessee is one of the most amazing uh cities in our country.
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The history is crazy, but what a beautiful city, what an amazing place for music and getting together, and we're gonna be there.
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America Out Loud is having our event July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Nashville, Tennessee, and yours truly, Joe Pangaro from the Human Equation, formerly from the uh Chasing Justice program, I'm gonna be there.
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I've already booked my tickets, booked my hotel, got my got my situation.
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I'm gonna be there, and I would like to meet as many of you as I possibly can.
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We can exchange ideas, we can have a cocktail, a cigar together, we can agree, we can disagree, we can have interaction.
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So here's how you can go as well.
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Go to the website, go to our um network website, America Outloud.news, America outloud.news, go there, uh, click on the link and look for Nashville uh 2025, or uh I'm sorry, it's Nashville.
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I don't have it in front of me.
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Now you'll see it.
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You'll see it's Nashville.
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Click on that, and you can get you can get tickets for one day, two days, all three days, four days, whatever we're doing there.
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You can go to the different programs.
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The speakers are gonna be absolutely amazing speakers that are fantastic.
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The cocktail party, the uh fireworks on the rooftop, all of this stuff is for us to get together, be Americans, share our heritage, and enjoy and celebrate 10 years of America Out Loud and 250 years of the greatest country that God has ever gifted the planet with.
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So go on there right now, America Outloud.news, look up Nashville, and get your tickets and come on down.
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We would love to see you.
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I would love to see you, and we can sit on a rooftop in beautiful Nashville in the summer and have a conversation, right?
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This is one of the things that I'm really looking forward to.
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Alright, so my monologue.
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I don't I don't know that I liked how it went.
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I it wasn't focused enough for me.
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You know, I'm a guy that likes um, I like to have like six talking points about each thing I want to talk about, and then I pontificate about them.
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I go on and on.
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I uh stream of consciousness.
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But I think I will start the programs from now on with a monologue, and I I will do my best to focus them in the future for you.
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So it makes it interesting for you.
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That's why you're listening, right?
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Because it's interesting.
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So here's some of the things I want to talk about.
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Let's let's get into some topical topics.
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Um Representative Swallwell.
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Let's let's talk about him for a minute.
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Is this uh for conservatives?
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This is one of those moments that you sit back and you can't help but smile.
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Here's one of these loud mouth left-wing lying people uh that are in politics that you know they're lying, you know that they're they're not truthful, you know you're making things up.
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They are just they're twisting things, and you know it, and you see it, and they always seem to get away with it, especially people on the left.
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Our friends on the left seem to get away with everything.
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Have we had anybody locked up?
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Did anybody get locked up from all the things that we all know were wrong?
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Um, yeah, no, we haven't seen a lot of people locked up.
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And that's frustrating to us on the left.
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I mean, on the right, because when the left is in charge, uh they don't play that kind of game.
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They don't take forever to they just go lock them up.
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They charge them, they indict them, they go get, they send armed officers to your uh to your compound, they go through your wife's underwear drawer, they come in with uh weapons, they tear things up, they go to your home, they show up at frogmen and come out out of the water, come into your house with guns and lock you up and take you away if you're a conservative.
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The liberals, the Democrats, they are never having to face responsibility for the things they say and do.
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But Swallwell, this guy, who ran his mouth screaming about the Epstein files, Epstein files, he's demanding the release of the Epstein Files, and I thought probably that one of the best things that he had to say is uh you had these women making these complaints about Trump or whatever.
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And when this guy comes out and goes, when you have one person making a comment, well, maybe they're when there's two, three or four, you know that there's really something there.
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Well, uh Swalwell has like five, six, seven, eight people who have come forward and said he did inappropriate things.
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Uh he touched what one woman said she's she was sexually assaulted by this guy, raped by this guy.
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Now, whether he did it or didn't do it, we'll find out in the course of time.
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But all of these people started coming out, his own staffers were coming forward saying this guy did this stuff, so much so that he had to drop his bid for governor of California, because he was probably the shoe in as the lefty, he would have been the governor of California.
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He would have been rewarded for his left-wing lying idiocy, progressive beliefs, but he had to drop out of that race, and he can, I'm gonna fight, and I'm gonna do this.
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And then more people came, more women came forward claiming, hey, not only that, but he harassed, he did this, that, and the other, to the point that he had a drop out of Congress now.
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Now, I gotta be honest with you.
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As a person, as a professional, in many, many different parts of my life.
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I never really rejoice when someone falls from grace.
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Because you know what?
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Any one of us can fall from grace for for lots of different reasons.
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It doesn't mean we're all bad people.
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The circumstances can build up and suddenly you're on the outs.
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Now, if you've done bad things, you gotta figure those things are going to catch up with you.
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Based on what we've been told by these staffers and these these women who say this kid, this guy harassed them and assaulted them.
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What was he thinking?
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How did he go through every single day thinking he was going to get away with this?
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Well, he has a great uh shield and power to get away.
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With this, and that being he's a Democrat.
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He has a D by his name.
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Democrats, they don't tell this, they didn't come out and do uh investigative stories on what these women said.
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They didn't come out and do anonymous person said this, anonymous person.
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They did none of that until it was too overwhelming that they couldn't, uh they couldn't hide it anymore, and they had to come out with it, and they kind of got I'm sure they got some idea that he was going to drop out and get away.
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Uh and then of course it was okay to come out with the stories.
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But they didn't do any, whoa, who is this woman?
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And she says this happened to her by this representative.
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Let's do a uh an expose.
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Let's go with no, they didn't do any of that.
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If it was a Republican, they would have every resource in their facility uh aimed at a rumor or a uh uh uh something that somebody told somebody some hearsay, they would go crazy on it and they would treat it like it's real.
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Oh, where?
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Um, I don't know, the Russian collusion, um, the Trump uh Trump, the steel dossier, you know, they went all in on all that stuff as though it was all real because it was to get Trump.
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But on the left, you got protection.
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You got protection from scrutiny, which ask yourself, is that really good?
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Right?
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I don't want anybody on either side of the aisle being a person who behaves this way, you know.
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I had a wife, I have a daughter, I have aunts and uncles.
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I I have women in my life that I care about.
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And I know when they go out in the workplace, they are harassed.
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It happens.
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I mean, it's part of the dynamics of humanity, doesn't make it right.
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But the reality is I know these people actually have to live with this kind of nonsense, and for this guy to try and get away with it, and he and he did, and he was protected, but he's not protected anymore.
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So I wanted to mention Representative Swallwell, because uh uh he's now dropped out of Congress.
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I think he's leaving Congress as well.
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That's actually delightful.
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Um, as a as a person who watches the scene, but as a conservative to watch a left-wing person like this, say I'm gonna be polite, a left-wing person like this have to leave the arena because of his behavior, I think it's great.
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Absolutely great.
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So what else is going on?
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Okay, so let's look at some.
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Did you pay your taxes this week?
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Did you pay your taxes?
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Isn't that a great thing to do to pay your taxes?
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Don't you love it?
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You know, you this money's taken out of your check, and or you have to write a check or whatever it is.
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So, first of all, I had a conversation with a very left-wing individual the other day, and he's very anti-taxes.
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Uh he thinks the the rich, the top one percent should pay everything, and everyone else should have a free ride.
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And that's kind of a common thought in the progressive world.
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You know, take from those who have and give it to those who don't have it.
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It's kind of like a twisted robinhood kind of a story.
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And uh and I'm saying to this guy, well, listen, there are some things that we need government to do.
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We can't just all be our own government, right?
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We can't be our own defense, our own uh money systems.
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We can't be our own, we can't control the laws from our house.
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So we need government for certain things.
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Not for everything, but for lots of things.
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We do need government.
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We need uh government to be strong, we need government to be righteous and fair and of the people.
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This is what makes America so different, is that we are, you know, uh the government answers to the people.
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Well, that's the way the founding fathers envisioned it.
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But here's where I'm gonna ask you to take some of my thinking from previous shows, where I say the default position of humanity is to live under tyranny.
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And we say to ourselves, do we do we have a completely free life free from government control threat, etc.
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etc.?
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And in many ways, I guess, depending on what you're doing, we we don't really get interfered with government very much.
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We we see government on the small scale.
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You go you speed up your street, and there's a cop there, he's gonna pull you over, give you a ticket, it's gonna cost you money.
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You drive recklessly, you're gonna get in trouble for that.
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You drunk drive, they're gonna lock you up because you're a danger to everyone.
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We see government on a small scale.
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The big scale things, the military, we watch that from afar.
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The Artemis uh program through NASA, we watch that from afar.
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That doesn't really affect all of us, other than they take our money to uh to do it.
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But where do we see government in real time that has control over us, threat over us, uh, keep us uh at bay, and that's with the taxes when you pay your taxes.
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April 15th traditionally is the day, the last day that you can file.
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You can file from January 1st till April 15th.
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If you file after that, the government's gonna penalize you.
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They're going to maybe give you a fine, give you a reprimand, give you a letter.
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They're gonna scare the hell out of you.
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Uh and the IRS has teeth, they have real teeth.
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They can come to your life uh in Middle America, wherever you are.
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If you owe money, you didn't pay.
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Boom.
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They will put a lock on your paycheck.
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Uh, you'll be a line item deduction out of your paycheck to pay those taxes.
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You will pay them.
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Uh the IRS is very, very powerful.
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They are are the one agency that basically says there's no due process here.
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If we say you're wrong, you're wrong.
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If we say you owe money, you owe that money, and we're gonna charge you penalties and fines and and everything for being for every day that you're late.
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Now, it's easy to take a negative stance on the IRS.
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I'm a taxpayer, I'm a regular person, I've paid taxes my whole life, and I agree we have to fund our government.
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We do.
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If we don't fund our government, it falls apart.
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We need a military, we need laws, we need, you know, we need all the things that government should provide.
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Um, but I look at that, the IRS and I say, you know, they're what a powerful agency.
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They come in and say, Well, we think you're wrong, and we're putting a uh we're putting a grab on your paycheck.
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How do you fight that?
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You can't fight that.
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They're gonna take that money.
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Sure, you can get a hearing, you can talk to somebody, but you think you're gonna win, you're not gonna win.
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This is where we can feel government right in our faces breathing down our necks.
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So this week we've reached uh April 15th.
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If you haven't filed, I think they they give us a pretty good break.
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You can file an extension.
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You know, I couldn't get my paperwork together.
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I couldn't get my documents in order.
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I didn't have time, right?
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And and that's all legitimate.
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Um that's all legitimate because you lose a document, you can't find a document, you don't have a record, you know, etc.
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etc.
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So you have an additional six months to file, but you have to pay your taxes on April 15th.
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So what are you supposed to do?
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Well, you're supposed to anticipate how much do I think I'm gonna owe?
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And how do you do that?
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You look at the year before.
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What is my life substantially the same as it was last year?
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How much did I pay, or how much did I get back?
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Well, if you got money back, you don't have to pay nothing because you got money back.
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But if you did um have to pay, how much did you pay?
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You're supposed to send that much in.
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I just find it interesting in that how powerful this agency is, that one of the things we've seen come up is IRS staffing is down 25%.
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We have lost 17,000 full-time IRS employees.
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8,000, I believe, were due to uh cuts in personnel, and then the rest were people who just decided to take early retirement to get their pension and get out before the government changed anymore.
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So we're down 17,000 people to provide services.
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And then there's an additional 5,000 people that do uh seasonal work.
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They come in for tax season, January to April or so, and they help fill out the paperwork and make sure everything is done right.
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And they're down, which they're now they're saying there could be delays.
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There could be delays in finishing up your tax return.
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You got it in on April 10th.
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You might not get it done until May 10th, the month, and then it could be another three, four weeks till you get your refund check.
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And you say to yourself, well, that this is where you see real government in your life in your face through the IRS and taxation.
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So what I always did in the last couple of years is I decided to pay more than I thought I would need to pay.
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And I don't like giving the government money and letting them hold it interest-free.
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But at the same time, I hated getting that letter saying, hey, thanks for filing, you owe us six thousand dollars, and you have to write a check for six thousand dollars.
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I hated that.
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So it's kind of a forced savings, right?
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So I I just pretty much doubled up on everything that I was supposed to pay, so I don't have to deal with that anymore.
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And now we get that money, you get that money back, and it's like, okay, uh, that's vacation money, maybe that's a project around your house.
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Either way, these lowering the staffing can slow that whole process down.
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Now
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I have been independent as an individual.
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I've been uh with a with a good job for the last 40 years of my life.
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The return, my tax return filed, and then uh, you know, if I get a check, that check didn't really change my life.
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I wasn't counting on that check for my daily bills.
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That check was always a project around my house or a little vacation with my wife and kids, or into the savings account.
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It was it didn't, it didn't make a huge difference in my life.
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But I know for some people it does.
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Uh I have friends that they're gonna get $3,000 back.
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That $3,000 is a lot of money for them.
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And to have it slowed down because the system is goofed up, uh, that's inappropriate.
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And why why is this system slowed down?
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Well, there was people say it's doge, doge, and Elon Musk, and that's why.
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Well, Elon Musk performed a function that is necessary.
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Our government is bloated with people, bloated with personnel.
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Um I'll tell you a quick story.
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A friend of mine was a private sector guy, an engineer, private sector guy.
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And he worked in the private sector and made good money and didn't do a good job, and they were worried about the cost of every project and how to, you know, uh how to do it the most efficient way, and this, and that's what this this guy did.
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Well, he had an opportunity.
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The company that he was with sold, closed the company, and he had an opportunity to go to the federal government as an engineer.
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And he took the job.
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Okay, this looks good.
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They're paying a good salary, it's it's reasonable distance.
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Let me go see.
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And he went in, and he starts at a very, very big facility, a huge federal facility, and he's one of multiple engineers.
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And the first thing he told me he goes, I get there and I see all these engineers, people have my degree that have my skill set, uh, etc.
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And you find out that there's probably 25% too many people here to do the work that's available.
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They just like got 25% more personnel than they need.
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And I said, really?
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He goes, yeah, they redundancy of people and they got people, everyone's got, you know, out of an eight-hour day, you got four and a half hours worth of work, maybe.
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The rest of the time you're just fiddling around.
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He goes, it's really inefficient.
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And then he had to do a job.
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He had to lay some uh plastic pipe, underground pipe, had to go about a mile at this facility.
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And they had to dig it up, put down the pipe, and then cover it in bluestone.
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You know, the bluestone you see in driveways for you know whatever purpose they use that, and then cover it up and put the road back.
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And he saw they were paying like a thousand dollars a ton for the bluestone.
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And he says, I just did a project at my last employer.
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We paid five dollars a ton, and I know who to get that from.
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So he went to his boss.
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He went to the leader of the organization that he was working with.
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He goes, hey, listen, they're expending three million dollars for Bluestone.
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Uh, we can do it for 500,000.
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I know who to call.
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We make a phone call right now.
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It's 500,000.
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We save two and a half million dollars.
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And then the pipe, you're getting pipe.
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It's this much money.
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I know where to get it over.
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And the guy looked at him and said, hey, that's great.
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You know, you you are really an efficient, awesome kind of guy.
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Let me give you a piece of advice here in the federal government.
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Swim in your own lane.
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Look at the plans, figure out the plans, don't worry about what everything costs.
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That's somebody else's job.
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That's not your job.
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Your job is not to worry about what it costs.
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Your job is to just figure out your part of the puzzle, and everyone else does theirs.
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And my friend walked away from this going, if this is on that small scale, imagine the big scale.
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So that's why Elon and what he did coming through and saying we can cut back on people was important.
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Now, I think when they cut back on 8,000 people, and I don't know that it was a Doge requirement or suggestion, but they cut back on 8,000 people from the Internal Revenue Revenue Service, and then another bunch of thousands of people decide to take their pension early.
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They saw it coming.
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Why would I would I want to get laid off?
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I'll take my pension and get out of here.
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That put us in a deficit, and that's gonna slow everything down.
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So sometimes this works out, and sometimes it doesn't.
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But I thought it was interesting to mention because it is tax time, we have to pay our taxes.
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Um would it be simple if we went to like a flat tax?
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Everybody pays 10%.
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You deduct your house, you deduct your family expenses, and then you pay 10% on your income across the board, whether you're a billionaire or a guy or girl, you know, making 50,000.
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You can pay 10% of your income on a one piece of paper.
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I see that as being probably the best way to go, uh efficient.
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All right, I I had other stuff on here I want to talk about, but I think real quick, I'm gonna cover something that's been in the news, and it's only gonna be a minute's worth.
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Recently we saw our Congress debating whether or not they should renew the Pfizer Act.
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Um the Pfizer Act is a uh a law that came into effect after 9-11, after we were bombed by terrorists, uh, we were attacked by terrorists, and the FISA law uh dictates how our federal law enforcement can listen to people's phones, that can intercept their text messages, that can look at their communications from foreign citizens and that information coming into America so that we know what are they talking about.
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Then if we find that they're talking to people here in America about doing bad things, right?
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At that point, we can listen in if it's about this foreign person wanting to do something, connecting with uh terrorist cells that might be in our country.
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Interesting.
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But what we saw with the Biden administration is that they bastardized this law.
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They used the Pfizer Act and the Pfizer courts to get warrants to listen into their political enemies.
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They listened in to the Trump administration.
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They lied to the judges so that they could wiretap and listen into what's going on.
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This is horrific, and it really has never been addressed appropriately.
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This is one of those things where conservatives are going, hey, what happened with this?
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Imagine if we did this to the liberals, they would be, you know, be crazy.
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So the Pfizer is coming up for renewal, and I think it should be renewed, but I think we have to have some strict limits on what information is released and to who and why.
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All right, I'm glad I got to talk about that.
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See, I have many more things here on my list, but our time is up, my friends.
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I'll see you tomorrow night.
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Join us again here on the human equation.