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Why Am I Still Sick? Dr. Kevin Smith Returns to Kill the Check Engine Light S3-EP9 · SpaceTomatoes

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  they don't tell people it's uh what heal a monster venom gland extract or whatever it is
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  right the ozempic yeah yeah that's what it is it's venom you're putting venom into your body
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  just like botox right you're literally putting one of the most dangerous bacterium in the world
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  into your body just lighten up man we can possibly toxin yeah exactly yeah it's like what are you
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  doing. You're a square
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  dude. Come on. I know. Apparently.
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  Get with the program, man. Everyone's
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  doing it. It's totally good. It's
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  rad. Sorry.
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  What do they say that if
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  your doctor is not
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  focused on curing you
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  and you don't have a doctor, you have a drug
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  dealer?
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  All right, everybody.
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  Welcome back to another episode of the Space Tomatoes podcast.
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  I'm one of your hosts, Havoc.
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  I'm Alex, the other guy.
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  Hello.
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  There's that other guy.
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  We love him.
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  Today we have with us a repeat guest, Dr. Kevin Smith,
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  functional medicine practitioner, published author, and founder of the Chronic Conditions
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  Center in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Welcome back, Dr. Kevin Smith.
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  Hey, guys. Great to be here.
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  It's awesome to have you back, man. It's really kind of a good feeling to have people say,
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  hey, I was on. I'd love to be a guest on your show again. I think that feels good.
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  It must not have been that terrible then, huh?
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  Yeah, it was a good time. I shared a lot of information. We had a great time.
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  Awesome. Awesome. So you, one of the things you told me is you've, you've come up with some new
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  information, some, some additional insights through your practice, et cetera.
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  What, what led you to this new info, new insights?
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  Well, one of the things that has evolved is I'm a little bit closer to releasing my book.
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  I have a publisher, and the book has been in the publisher's domain for a while now.
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  And sometimes progress comes in the form of miles.
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  Sometimes it comes in the form of millimeters.
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  so right now every little thing is being scrutinized and detailed and all that kind of
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  stuff but i hope to have it done within about a month or two nice wonderful wonderful what's the
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  title of your new book why am i still sick so is this book talks about why people have chronic
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  health problems that they can never shake and why the system seems to just be involved with
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  just managing their problems rather than curing it and putting a final point on this. So for
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  example, somebody with high blood pressure or low thyroid disease never really gets rid of their
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  problem. The doctors don't really cure them. They just manage it. So I just say, if you ever want to
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  challenge that, that, that saying, stop taking your pills for a couple of days and see what happens.
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  Yeah. Thyroid. Yeah. Yeah. That could be
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  uncomfortable though for, you know, someone that is, you know, truly suffering from low thyroid,
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  couldn't it? So thyroid is really one of my clinical niches that I specialize in. And the
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  function of your thyroid, the thyroid gland is a small butterfly-shaped gland that sits in the
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  front of your neck, right above the notch in your neck. And the function of the thyroid gland is to
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  produce thyroid hormone. Thyroid hormone comes in the form of T4 and T3. It also produces
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  calcitonin, but that's for another discussion on another day. So the thyroid hormone that's
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  produced by your gland, T4 and T3, between them, 93% of all the hormone that comes out of that
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  gland is T4. 7% is T3. So the overwhelming majority of what's in your thyroid gland is T4.
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  But T3 is the active form of thyroid hormone. That's the stuff that actually
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  does the job of the thyroid gland So T3 what does T3 do T3 is kind of like the accelerator pedal in a car If you step on the gas the car speeds up If you take your foot off the gas
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  the car slows down or it comes to a stop. The same exact thing happens with T3 hormone.
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  So every single cell in your body, all 70 trillion cells, has a receptor site for T3 hormone.
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  So every cell in your body can be benefited from having sufficient amount of T3.
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  So I'll use an example.
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  The neurons in your brain have a receptor site for T3 hormone.
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  If they don't get a sufficient amount of thyroid hormone, T3, what kind of symptoms would you expect to see?
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  Brain fog, fatigue.
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  Exactly.
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  A number of issues like that, but typically a slowing down of the system.
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  Right, exactly.
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  You would expect to see some depression, some anxiety, cognition issues, even memory problems, learning difficulties.
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  And like you said, brain fog and things like that.
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  Is weight gain one of those too?
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  Well, weight gain, it's not really part of the brain, but in your gut, yes, absolutely.
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  your gut can be affected by a slowdown amount of thyroid hormone that can cause weight gain.
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  So some of the symptoms of hypothyroidism or low thyroid disease includes lack of energy
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  or fatigue, weight gain, even with diet and exercise. It can involve infertility,
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  Or if it's a female, abnormal menses, or they can't conceive a baby.
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  Or you could have gut problems such as absorption issues, constipation or diarrhea.
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  You can have, it can lead to malnourishment or deficiencies, micro deficiencies.
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  You can have things like your hair falling out in clumps over the sink.
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  or the loss of the outer one-third of the eyebrows.
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  You can have your fingernails or toenail beds
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  developing cracked or weak nail beds.
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  Sleep difficulties, problems falling asleep or staying asleep.
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  Abnormal problems with the skin, either oily skin or dry, flaky skin.
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  and it's not fatal, but it's really incredibly annoying.
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  Isn't there a correlation?
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  I think I was reading a study on this
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  and I want to say that there is
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  and maybe I'm conflating two things,
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  but a correlation between that and Crohn's disease as well?
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  Yeah, there is.
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  So the number one cause of hypothyroidism in the United States is autoimmune disease.
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  Hashimoto's, right?
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  It's Hashimoto's, exactly.
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  So that's when your defense system of the body, the immune system, starts attacking and destroying the thyroid gland.
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  So it's not supposed to do that.
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  It's supposed to be protecting you from viruses or bacteria or parasites or something like that.
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  But something changes in the body and nobody really knows what sets it off.
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  The latest research I've read says that it's due to a life effect,
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  such as the birth of a baby, a divorce, the death of a parent,
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  a big move, a new job, a new career, some major, major life effect.
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  Outside of the United States, the number one cause of hypothyroidism
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  is iodine deficiency.
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  But we don't have that problem in the United States because we put salt on everything.
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  Well, I think I would challenge that again.
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  And I think we had this conversation before, right?
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  I think there is a growing population of people in the United States who have made significant changes in their life.
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  And part of that is their eating.
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  And myself LX fall into this and I know hundreds of other families that live like this as well And that they don eat out Eating out is maybe a once a year twice a year type of a thing They don I visit you That when I eat Right They don they don eat
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  packaged or processed food, not even minimally. Right. They eat fresh vegetables, fresh meats.
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  When they get salt, they buy top quality salt because there have been studies that have come
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  out on a number of the salts. In fact, almost all of them contain toxic levels of lead in them,
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  right? When you look at a big enough sample size. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just let me finish,
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  please. When you start to look at this, you realize that there are people that are getting
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  a diet that does not have iodized salt in it at all in any capacity, especially when you start
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  looking at the homesteaders, which is an exploding area, right? I mean, that, that area has probably
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  quintupled in the last five, six years, a number of people doing this and who are actually getting
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  their meats from their own pastures. So now you've, you've even taken away the brine effect
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  from meat processors. And, and now you're, you're literally devoid of iodized salt.
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  You're not eating it.
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  You're not, it's not in your food.
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  So, you know, at this point you start to wonder, right?
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  There are a number of people in these homestead crews that are doing this.
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  And, you know, these thyroid conditions continue to come up and be presented as Hashimoto's.
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  And definitely not ever, ever an iodine deficiency.
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  Yet the one thing that I can tell you, my wife, I know three people, close friends that have thyroid and not a single one of them over their decades long history with a doctor has ever had an iodine test done.
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  They test for T3.
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  That's it.
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  Every once in a while they come in, they do the T4 as well, and they still don't even check for the side portions.
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  And they should be doing comprehensive thyroid testing at least annually because those markers go up, they go down, they change, and they mean a lot, right?
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  So I guess I'm wondering, is that really the case or is this something that scientific and medical, the AMA, has just come out and said this is the case similar to blood pressure and salt?
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  Well, when you take a large enough sample size and you don't look at just individual cases or case studies, but you look at sample sizes of tens of thousands of people, then you start to see patterns emerging that you can't see just by looking at a couple isolated cases.
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  That being said, there are a number of peripheral things that cause disruption of your thyroid physiology.
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  One of them is anemia patterns.
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  If you suffer from anemia or blood loss or a lack of oxygen being delivered on the red blood cells,
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  that can disrupt thyroid function.
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  there's that
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  there's blood sugar problems
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  including insulin resistance
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  or type 2 diabetes
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  or something along those lines
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  there is cortisol
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  cortisol is produced by
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  the adrenal glands
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  those are small triangular glands
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  that sit on top of the kidneys
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  and regulate your
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  autonomic nervous system
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  the fight or flight response
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  there is sex hormones
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  Those are things like estrogen, progesterone, testosterone.
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  There's things like chronic inflammation and oxidative stress.
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  There's gut problems, gut sensitivities.
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  There's food allergies.
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  There's chemical sensitivities.
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  And there's unresolved viral infections.
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  All of that stuff can disrupt thyroid function.
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  So it doesn't always have to be Hashimoto's.
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  It could be other things like that.
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  All of those things need to be carefully evaluated to see if they potentially can cause a problem with this and cause a disruption.
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  In your case, you mentioned before a lot of homesteaders, a lot of people that don't cook with iodized salt.
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  that's great, but inside the United States,
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  we don't really have a problem with iodine deficiency.
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  It's usually the trend tends to be more towards Hashimoto's
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  or some kind of a peripheral trigger, like I mentioned before.
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  So I want to look at all that stuff and see if potentially
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  one or more of those things could be at fault.
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  Yeah And so why do you think I going to guess that it the 95 swag uh piece of it that causes this but you know like my my my wife was diagnosed with Hashimoto and i asked did they
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  run a full panel and she said no they just checked my t3 levels i'm like well you can't diagnose that
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  as Hashimoto's if you haven't run a full panel you have no idea what it is except you're just
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  going off the base, you know, swag, scientific wild behind guess that this is, you know,
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  Hashimoto's because 95 plus percent of the time it is, right?
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  And so I guess my concern is that there's a lot, that is the standing methodology that,
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  you know, the AMA puts out.
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  and you'll be met with just a brick wall
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  if you even try and discuss potential other areas with your doctor,
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  especially iodine.
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  We tried.
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  She says, nope, it's not iodine.
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  How do you know?
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  Did you check?
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  No, I don't need to.
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  I guarantee it's not iodine.
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  There are two markers for ascertaining if it's Hashimoto's.
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  One of them is called a TPO enzyme, and the other one is an antifibroglobulin enzyme.
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  Those markers can be very easily ordered and tested.
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  They're a part of a blood panel.
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  But the reason why doctors don't do this on a regular basis has nothing to do with scientific.
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  It has nothing to do with published stuff from the American Medical Association.
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  or the Academy of Endocrinology or anything like that.
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  The reason why it's not routinely done is because of economics.
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  Yeah.
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  It has to do with the insurance industry.
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  The doctors, by the time you walk in the doctor's office,
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  your treatment plan has already been predetermined for you.
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  Yep.
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  Usually by an actuary that works for the insurance company
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  that has never met you or your wife,
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  has never looked at your labs,
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  has never looked at x-rays or done a physical exam, but they are making critical decisions
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  as far as what kind of care that you're going to get. And so when I say that to people,
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  you can either get the standard of care or you can get exceptional care if you go beyond
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  the insurance companies. Medical doctors should not have a vested interest in doing the very
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  bare minimum amount of testing, but that's what they do. They do the very bare minimum amount.
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  You said it already, right? It's economics. So, you know, I mean, doctor's offices now,
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  if they, if you've got a doctor in an office, there, there, there will be between five and
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  eight administrative staff just for insurance billing purposes, right? One doctor. So the,
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  The economics of it for the doctor is I've got to get these patients through because, you know, the amount of money I actually receive from the insurance companies as opposed to what I have to put out and pay and the staff I have to pay and all of this.
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  And then you, of course, have the insurance companies looking for the minimum viable standard of care that they can produce without, you know, actively harming people ish.
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  The insurance companies, they do the very bare minimum so they don't get sued.
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  Yep.
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  They don't care about you.
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  They don't care about your health.
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  They are beholden only to their shareholders, not to you as the consumer.
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  And so the medical doctors, like especially a primary care physician, they're going to do on the average of seven minutes of face-to-face time.
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  And the rest of the time that you're in the office, you're going to be speaking to a medical assistant.
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  So they have deferred a lot of that to an entry-level position,
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  and the medical assistant is the one that's going to gather your information.
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  They're going to talk about, has anything changed in your life?
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  Do you have any new problems?
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  Is it going to get your weight and your height?
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  and put the pulse ox on your finger.
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  And then the doctor's going to walk in with his laptop computer,
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  and he's not even going to be looking at you.
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  He's going to be pecking away on the laptop while he talks to you,
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  and then he's out the door even before you finish your sentence.
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  And that's not good care, in my opinion.
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  No, it's sick care.
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  It's not health care.
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  Right.
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  You're right.
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  The entire goal of the medical system, as far as I can tell today, is to manage the symptoms.
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  You're right.
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  You're correct.
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  I couldn't tell you what they are, but aren't there some...
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  Pharmaceutical medications that also affect your thyroid in a negative way or possibly?
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  Well, I don't know.
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  I'm not a pharmacologist.
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  But I do know that if you take a drug like Synthroid or Levothyroxine or Tyrosine or Cytomel,
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  17% of people that have hypothyroidism are going to respond positively to those medications.
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  The other 83% have no effect whatsoever.
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  Wow.
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  And that's why you have to look at all the things that I mentioned before as a possible reason why you feel crummy, why your thyroid is not binding and it's not doing its job.
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  And the thing is, most medical doctors don't look at all the different possible triggers.
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  That's where functional medicine comes in to look at do you have a problem with your gut.
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  Is there a problem with inflammation?
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  Do you have inflammatory cytokines that are blocking the receptor sites on your cells from thyroid hormone binding to them?
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  And so we have to look at all that different thing, all those different things, and ascertain, is it possible that you have problems?
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  And by the way, people reserve the right to have more than one problem.
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  No way.
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  Yeah, I know, right?
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  No, it's not possible.
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  Just take this pill and get the hell out of my office.
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  Come back when the side effects hit.
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  We'll give you a couple of pills for those.
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  Come back when those side effects hit and we'll give you more pills.
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  Keep coming back.
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  I do have something to ask you about.
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  I don't think I asked you about it last time, but it's something I've been trying for myself.
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  Do you have any experience with red light therapy at all?
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  Yeah.
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  Or do you think it works?
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  Yeah.
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  Red light therapy works because, well, first of all, let's back up a second.
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  If you look at the rainbow, the different spectrums of light, you have blue, green, yellow, red, far infrared, things like that.
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  And those spectrums of light can penetrate below the surface of the skin at different depths.
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  So, for example, blue light can penetrate 2 millimeters below the surface of the skin.
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  Red light can penetrate about 10 millimeters below the surface of the skin.
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  Far infrared light can penetrate up to 100 centimeters or 100 millimeters below the surface of the skin.
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  And what the light does is it causes a vasodilation.
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  so it opens up the blood vessels
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  so that more blood can flow through there
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  so for people that have circulatory disease
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  that's very very important
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  because in the bloodstream is the oxygen
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  the oxygen binds to the red blood cells
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  on the hemoglobin
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  and every cell in your body
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  needs a good supply of oxygen
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  So if you cut off the blood supply and with that, the oxygen to the brain, do you know what that's called?
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  Hypoxia.
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  That's called a stroke.
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  Well, okay.
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  Okay?
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  If you cut off the blood supply and the oxygen to the heart, what's that called?
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  Heart attack?
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  It's a heart attack.
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  It's a myocardial infarction.
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  And if you cut off the blood supply and without the oxygen to the nerves that travel down the legs, the result is that the nerves start to shrivel up and die.
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  They kind of look like a house plant that you forgot to water for a few weeks.
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  And I know I'm the only one that ever did that, right?
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  I can grow the best gardens.
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  I really am blessed with that ability.
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  Give me a house plane.
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  plant, I will show you a dead plant in a month. I can grow great weeds. But anyway, one of the
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  things that I help people with in addition to thyroid disease is peripheral neuropathy.
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  And peripheral neuropathy is defined as disease or damage to the nerves that exit the spine.
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  that may be the nerves that go down the legs, go down the arms, or wrap around your trunk.
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  And if those nerves are diseased or damaged, you're going to have things like numbness,
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  tingling, pins and needles, balance problems, muscle cramping, muscle weakness, cold feet.
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  It can be incredibly annoying, and it can also be fatal if it results in a balance problem ending up in a fall.
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  So infrared light therapy is used to improve the circulation to improve the oxygen delivery to the nerves But the thing is they not all made the same Some of them are very weak
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  Some of them are more powerful. So you want to get the best possible therapy that you can afford.
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  isn't isn't peripheral neuropathy most closely related to not related to but you know it relates
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  back to inflammation chronic inflammation well i think that there's a component that can be there
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  with chronic inflammation and by the way most diseases that we know about cancer diabetes
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  COPD, arthritis.
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  It's all related to chronic inflammation.
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  So I think that we want to look at neuropathy as maybe helping people with their internal environment and their internal terrain.
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  We have people that just eat at McDonald's six days a week and then can't figure out why they can't feel their feet.
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  so but but yes the the the infrared light therapy is very useful and it can work incredibly well
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  for improving the oxygen delivery to the nerves and your hands and your feet so when you have a
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  person that has say they can't they don't have they don't have a good oxygen delivery to their
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  hands and the result is they have problems working buttons or problems with projects
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  working little things.
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  That's one of the things that I would suggest to them is something very, very simple.
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  It doesn't require drugs.
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  It doesn't require surgery.
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  They can do it in the privacy and comfort of their own home.
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  And just, you know, but I will say this, it's not an overnight thing.
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  It's not instant gratification.
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  The nerves heal at the rate of about one inch per month.
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  So it's a long, slow process.
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  That's my experience as well.
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  I started using a handheld device probably back last November.
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  I had a metatarsalgia on my foot, and I've been using that, and it seemed to help.
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  And I went with the blue, well, it's a blue, red, and near-infrared combo unit.
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  Because I mean, I read that it may help the psoriasis, but there's no guarantees and there's not a lot of studies on it.
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  But I figured it can't hurt, right?
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  So I think it helps actually with the itching part of it.
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  And along with the diets made the most improvement overall.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis is a variant of rheumatoid arthritis.
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  So people that have rheumatoid arthritis, it affects the synovial joints in the hands and the feet.
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  And a lot of times people can have skin breakouts because of this.
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  As the autoimmune disease progresses to the skin, they can have red, blotchy patches.
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  And really where the difference is is how you address that.
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  The medical approach to dealing with this is to give you a steroid or an immunosuppressant drug.
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  My approach dealing with this is to help you by first focusing on the gut,
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  focusing on the nutrition, leaky gut syndrome, anything like that,
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  and doing a liver detox and helping you that way.
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  Those are the approaches that I get the best results with.
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  Okay.
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  Do you, I would have to imagine you do, but recommend beetroot.
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  And then do you recommend beetroot powders to make that a little more efficient and easier to uptake?
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  Yeah, so for cardiovascular problems, that's really where the beetroot shines.
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  and it can come in many forms like a chew or a powder or something like that.
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  It's a wonderful liver.
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  It's good for the liver.
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  It helps it to actually rebuild and heal.
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  And I was just wondering if that's something that you use for that piece as well.
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  Yeah, if I find somebody that has a circulatory disorder
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  And I would also use an enzyme called natokinase to improve the microcirculation in the capillary beds.
• 30:59
  One of the problems that people have is especially if they a diabetic the glucose molecules are big thick sticky molecules And they can go into the microcirculation and they can get clogged up and um i use an a crude example my son when he was a little kid he flushed a a a hot
• 31:26
  what is it called a hot hot rails the little the little cars the kids play with hot wheels
• 31:33
  hot wheels or matchboxer hot wheels exactly he flushed a lightning mcqueen down the commode
• 31:39
  And I had to call a plumber who had to pull the commode out and do all that stuff.
• 31:47
  The exact same thing happens when you have diabetes and you have glucose molecules that are clogging the microcirculation and they are preventing oxygen from reaching certain parts.
• 32:03
  That's why diabetics lose their toes.
• 32:05
  that's why they can lose their feet or their legs if you can't get oxygen the result of that could
• 32:12
  be gangrene and it could be a life challenging problem i do have a list of stuff here that my
• 32:20
  wife just she just goes crazy with the research could i just run this by you like real quick see
• 32:25
  see what your thoughts are sure curcumin phytosome so curcumin elite turmeric extract so they're kind
• 32:34
  in the same thing. Curcumin is part of the ginger family. And the biggest benefit of taking that
• 32:45
  is it reduces inflammation. We use curcumin to help with people that have injuries, new injuries,
• 32:55
  or chronic problems all the time. So yeah, curcumin. But when you get a supplement,
• 33:02
  you got to make sure that it's of high quality they're not all the same or just right just make
• 33:09
  your own take turmeric root put it in a pot with some clean water and put some ginger in there put
• 33:16
  some fennel seed powder in there a little chaga mushroom in there a little licorice root if you
• 33:23
  if you'd like it'll help sweeten it a little bit it's also got some good benefits a little bit of
• 33:28
  mint, you know, things of that nature,
• 33:30
  and then put it on the stovetop on a super low simmer for about four or six hours,
• 33:36
  strain it, put it in a pitcher, and every day have, you know,
• 33:39
  four to eight ounces of that.
• 33:42
  That's it.
• 33:43
  Sounds easy.
• 33:44
  My patients are a little bit less ambitious than that.
• 33:47
  They just want to go buy a jar of something, and boom, you're done.
• 33:53
  Yeah, and I understand that.
• 33:55
  I guess for me it's one of those things.
• 33:57
  There have been just so many supplement companies that have been busted either for, you know, you know, saying that it's got X amount of these things in it.
• 34:11
  And then, you know, people have them analyzed and it has nowhere near that or the amounts that they have in it are just nowhere near the amount needed for any benefit to really materialize.
• 34:23
  And, you know, so there are good supplement companies out there, but it's just really difficult to slog through all the research to find the ones that are really going to provide top level.
• 34:35
  Whereas a cut up turmeric root and a cut up ginger root will always provide that benefit, period.
• 34:41
  And you don't have to worry about, you know, lead in the product or, you know, too much phosphate or, you know, any of these other problems that come in and materialize for a lot of supplement producers.
• 34:57
  So let me help your listeners get results really quick.
• 35:04
  There's four levels of supplements that are available to consumers.
• 35:09
  level one would be stuff that you find at the dollar store or a walmart or one of those big
• 35:17
  box stores like sam's club or costco there's a reason that you can buy a thousand fish rolls for
• 35:24
  eight dollars it's it's made with the very worst possible raw materials
• 35:33
  and it's also been sitting on a pallet for 10 years. Don't waste your time with that stuff.
• 35:41
  I would just say if you're just going to poop out the supplement at the end of the day,
• 35:45
  it's not going to do you very much good. Level two is what's available at a local pharmacy,
• 35:53
  at CVS, at Walgreens, at your local grocery store like Kroger or whatever you use. It's
• 36:02
  generally the stuff that they sell at the pharmacies are generally better
• 36:06
  formulated than the stuff at Walmart.
• 36:10
  And that means that they're better raw materials.
• 36:13
  They do a better job of absorbing into your body and doing a,
• 36:17
  doing a physiological job.
• 36:20
  Level three is what you going to see at at GNC or at vitamin world or stuff that you can find on Amazon It generally better stuff than what available at the local pharmacy
• 36:38
  And then level four are professional quality supplements.
• 36:42
  That's the stuff that I recommend.
• 36:45
  Level four supplements are not available generally to the public.
• 36:49
  They're only available through a licensed healthcare professional, such as a medical doctor, a chiropractor, a physical therapist.
• 36:58
  But that stuff has got the GMP certified label on the bottle.
• 37:05
  GMP means good manufacturing process.
• 37:09
  That means that an independent company has gone in there and independently tested the supplement for purity.
• 37:16
  and making sure that there's no heavy metal or biological contaminants and the supplement.
• 37:24
  There's no lead, there's no mercury, there's no bacteria or yeast or anything like that.
• 37:32
  It's completely pure.
• 37:34
  And if it has that GMP certification, generally it's better for you.
• 37:40
  The second thing professional quality supplements have going in their favor is that they are backed by real human clinical trials.
• 37:50
  So they submit their product and they often will compare it to pharmaceutical grade supplementation.
• 37:59
  For example, one company called Metagenics did a supplement against Fosamax, an anti-osteoporosis drug.
• 38:09
  and their stuff blew the doors out of the Fosamax.
• 38:14
  No GI upset and they got better clinical results.
• 38:20
  So that's the reason why I trust specific companies more so than others.
• 38:27
  Like I said, you have to get them from a licensed healthcare professional.
• 38:32
  Yeah, yeah.
• 38:34
  That does make sense.
• 38:35
  And, you know, for me, it just came down to, I know what I need. I, I grow most of it myself. So I don't have to go buy it from someone else and wonder if they grew it using the same practices I would, which is nothing side ever goes into my garden for any reason. If I lose the whole garden, bummer, next year will be better.
• 39:02
  um you know and and the the fertilizers are not chemically engineered they are literally
• 39:08
  engineered in my side field uh from the manure from our animals and the greens and food waste
• 39:16
  etc so you know for me it went i just kind of went well i'm already doing this i'm putting in
• 39:21
  the effort i can make this i make one batch a week and then i just you know have a little bit
• 39:26
  every day and it seems to work great but yes if i mean you know most people are on the go they don't
• 39:31
  have the ability to take this much control over these things. So, you know, hey, get to that level
• 39:37
  four, you know, see, see someone and, and, you know, get the, the correct supplementation, because
• 39:43
  I can tell you right now, probably 90 plus percent of what's on the market right now is, is worthless.
• 39:50
  I mean, I mean, genuinely worthless with a lot of claims. But again, they, they either have stuff
• 39:57
  in there that is not good for you. Number one, they use the poorest quality ingredients, which
• 40:02
  is going to pass right through you and provide you no benefit. And, you know, in a lot of cases,
• 40:08
  they claim that it has all of these things you need, but they're in such low doses that there
• 40:13
  is literally zero benefit to taking all of that stuff in there because you're not getting enough
• 40:19
  in that dose to do what that thing would normally do. You know, turmeric is excellent for anti
• 40:27
  inflammatory response, right? But if you're only taking, you know, if you've got like, you know,
• 40:32
  100 micrograms inside of a supplement, you're just not going to do anything.
• 40:38
  Yeah, you know, the pharmaceutical companies orchestrate reports on a frequent basis,
• 40:47
  where they downplay the effects of certain supplements. Case in point, they did a study
• 40:54
  looking at ashwagandha for helping people,
• 40:59
  but they used such a small dose and they used it of such poor quality
• 41:03
  that it didn't get the results that they said that they wanted.
• 41:08
  Oh, no, we got the exact results they wanted.
• 41:10
  That's absolutely what they wanted.
• 41:13
  Take our medicine. It's better.
• 41:16
  That's exactly it.
• 41:18
  But they orchestrate certain things on a regular basis
• 41:24
  to make the competition look weak and unsuccessful
• 41:28
  so that their drugs in comparison look great.
• 41:34
  And it's not fair to do that.
• 41:38
  It is not.
• 41:39
  You better watch out.
• 41:39
  you might have these health insurance companies or maybe the pharmaceutical companies coming after
• 41:44
  you when your book comes out they might just grab you and put you in a van and put a hood over you
• 41:48
  and take it away that would stink but hey you know maybe they're not super sharp so they show
• 41:56
  up in white lab coats or something like okay yeah this is not no we're not doing this i'm just
• 42:02
  picturing a far side cartoon looking like that somehow right that is literally the image that
• 42:09
  was in my head a couple tall really tall like weird looking but lab coats like in the middle
• 42:15
  of the street with teeth right right exactly and the skinny head you know and all that yeah
• 42:22
  i got a couple more on the list maybe you can tell me if i'm uh wasting my time quercetin
• 42:29
  quercetin yeah um l-glutamine so so quercetin is used as an anti-inflammatory
• 42:38
  Oh, glutamine is an antioxidant.
• 42:43
  Okay.
• 42:44
  No, I'm sorry.
• 42:47
  I was thinking of something else.
• 42:50
  If you have a problem with absorbing glutamate, that is a neuro excitotoxin.
• 42:58
  It means it makes the brain, it's like it's on fire.
• 43:03
  You can't function right.
• 43:04
  So I take a supplement.
• 43:10
  It's a powder.
• 43:12
  It kind of blocks the effect of gluten.
• 43:17
  I don't have celiac disease.
• 43:20
  I have what's called non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
• 43:24
  So I take this stuff.
• 43:26
  It's made by orthomolecular, and I mix it with water.
• 43:33
  and I just feel amazing when I take it
• 43:37
  and I feel terrible when I don't take it
• 43:41
  because the food industry,
• 43:44
  they're very sneaky with how they can sneak in sugar,
• 43:49
  fat and salt and gluten in the foods that we typically eat
• 43:53
  and think that they're harmless.
• 43:56
  I mean, we're not talking about eating Twinkies and Ho-Hos.
• 44:01
  We're talking about just normal people's stuff.
• 44:03
  Oh, yeah.
• 44:04
  No, we literally got a bag of pistachios, in the shell pistachios, roasted pistachios.
• 44:12
  And I turn around and look at it, and the second ingredient after pistachios, sugar.
• 44:17
  These are salted, roasted, salted pistachios.
• 44:22
  Why?
• 44:23
  Well, because sugar's going to turn on that craving, and that craving's going to make you want more.
• 44:28
  And the more you want, the more you'll buy.
• 44:29
  and you know yeah are they the ones in the green bag yes really really really i'm gonna check right
• 44:38
  after i get off here read the ingredients list yeah wow yeah because i i'm like oh it's roasted
• 44:45
  nuts it's safe you know yeah no it's not wow all right well think of it if it's not if it's not
• 44:54
  roasted and they don't put the sugar in it would be kind of boring no it'd be great just be a
• 44:59
  roasted salted pistachio.
• 45:01
  Perfect in every way.
• 45:04
  You know?
• 45:04
  So while we're on the subject,
• 45:06
  why do you think so many more people have gluten sensitivity or celiac or
• 45:11
  any of that stuff?
• 45:13
  I mean,
• 45:13
  do you think it's partially not even that,
• 45:16
  that it's like the glyphosate or whatever they put on that stuff?
• 45:19
  The food industry messes with the foods.
• 45:23
  The breads that we have today are not the same as in the seventies.
• 45:27
  they enhance them with certain products to make bread softer and cupcakes fluffier
• 45:35
  and make things more appealing to the consumer and make things have a longer shelf life
• 45:41
  so they don't rot on the shelves.
• 45:45
  A lot of the stuff out there is done so for economics.
• 45:51
  It's not done for your health benefits.
• 45:55
  Yeah.
• 45:55
  Right.
• 45:55
  And I think for me personally, I think that the food industry is the only industry that I have more contempt for than the pharmaceutical companies.
• 46:10
  They're sneaky.
• 46:12
  I put them on an equal plane personally.
• 46:15
  Both of them deserve nothing but my pure contempt.
• 46:19
  Not that I eat them or anything.
• 46:21
  I saw a thing.
• 46:21
  It was like sugar-free Tic Tacs, but they're entirely made out of sugar.
• 46:26
  But because it's below a certain amount, they can legally say it's sugar-free, even though the product is almost entirely sugar.
• 46:35
  It's ridiculous.
• 46:36
  Well, let's say that you look at another product called, you remember Snackwell's Cookies?
• 46:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:46
  Okay.
• 46:47
  They say in the box it fat So you thinking well wow I just eat the whole box right What they don tell you is that it like 90 sugar
• 46:59
  Nice.
• 47:00
  So they're incredibly sneaky with the way that they portray things
• 47:06
  as harmless and beneficial, but they're anything but.
• 47:11
  I would rather have something with fat in it
• 47:14
  than have something loaded with sugar.
• 47:17
  And the amount of damage done to a person is way worse when it's loaded with sugar than with fat.
• 47:26
  Yeah.
• 47:27
  And bread, you know, your point.
• 47:29
  Bread, I don't know if all of it, but I imagine, I think probably most of it, but, you know, maybe even before the 70s we have to go to.
• 47:38
  But bread should contain three or maximum four ingredients.
• 47:43
  standard bread you know sourdough white bread wheat bread etc should contain three
• 47:50
  maximum four ingredients that's that's it you know some flour water salt and yeast yeah there
• 47:57
  you go yeah have you have either one of you gone into a grocery store into the bread aisle and
• 48:04
  looked at the ingredients list oh i have so i have a friend who's i've looked at the public's bread
• 48:09
  like the good bakery bread that, you know,
• 48:11
  it's supposed to be nice and healthy.
• 48:12
  And that list is 30 things long.
• 48:15
  That's crazy.
• 48:16
  I've got a friend that's allergic to corn.
• 48:18
  Okay.
• 48:19
  And so we were doing a barbecue and I had to go through everything that I was
• 48:24
  buying for this barbecue to make sure that we were all good.
• 48:29
  And when it came time to hit the bread aisle, you know,
• 48:32
  everything has corn syrup in it and corn syrup comes from corn,
• 48:37
  which will put the man into anaphylactic shock.
• 48:40
  So, you know, it was eye-opening to me.
• 48:44
  But beyond that, you know, 90% of the bread that you're going to find in that aisle
• 48:50
  is going to have at least three multisyllabic,
• 48:55
  very difficult to pronounce chemical names in it.
• 49:00
  And none of these are necessary.
• 49:02
  None of them are good for you either.
• 49:04
  And ask the question why.
• 49:06
  why do the bakeries
• 49:10
  put that stuff into the
• 49:12
  product
• 49:13
  corn is a subsidized
• 49:16
  product the federal government
• 49:18
  is helping the farmers
• 49:20
  they pay for it
• 49:22
  they used to give us this song
• 49:24
  and dance that it's a better form of fuel
• 49:26
  and they made ethanol which
• 49:28
  they know now
• 49:29
  that came after the farm subsidies
• 49:32
  and then the farmers were still
• 49:34
  struggling because you know prices for
• 49:36
  fertilizer and a number of other things went up as well as taxes.
• 49:40
  And so they came back and went, well, we're still struggling.
• 49:43
  And they went, well, what can we do?
• 49:44
  Well, you know what?
• 49:45
  We can make fuel out of this.
• 49:47
  So now we'll add it to the fuel.
• 49:49
  We'll pay you, but we're going to use this to supplement fuel.
• 49:53
  And then basically giving us, you know, 15, you know, 10 to 15% more fuel.
• 49:59
  It's not good for your engines either.
• 50:01
  Somebody with a mechanic background, it's horrible.
• 50:03
  It's not good for your small engines like your lawnmower.
• 50:07
  It's not good for your large engines either.
• 50:10
  It's not good for your vehicle.
• 50:12
  It's absolutely terrible for your vehicle.
• 50:16
  But getting back to the economics.
• 50:18
  But I mean, like if it clogs.
• 50:20
  That's why companies like Pepperidge Farm and Intimates uses this all the time.
• 50:26
  If it clogs and corrodes your vehicle components, think about what it does to your soft tissue.
• 50:32
  Yeah.
• 50:33
  You got a good point. Another thing that is found in baked goods, aside from all those stuff that we talked about, corn syrup and maltodextrin, is the fats that they use.
• 50:54
  they use trans fats and a lot of baking. The reason why they use trans fats, again, it's
• 51:02
  economics. They don't rot like regular non-trans fats. So when you have a big commercial bakery
• 51:12
  and you need to buy fats by the barrel, you don't want it to go bad. You want it to stay
• 51:19
  on the shelf a long time. So why not just buy trans fats and let it sit there? So when you see
• 51:27
  partially dehydrogenated vegetable oil, that's a trans fat. And so-
• 51:34
  Well, let's take it a step further and let's be quite honest. And look, you can all go do this
• 51:41
  search and look it up yourself.
• 51:43
  I am not lying to you here.
• 51:45
  That is industrial equipment lubrication.
• 51:50
  That's where these things came from.
• 51:53
  And they went, well, you know, hey,
• 51:55
  we can make food out of this.
• 51:57
  I not kidding it not a joke Vegetable oil canola oil these things are industrial equipment lubrication It machine grease I just like to know what madman came up with this
• 52:12
  Oh, boy, this actually tastes not bad.
• 52:15
  I don't know.
• 52:21
  Crazy.
• 52:22
  Man, that is crazy.
• 52:23
  So in your new book, what do you got?
• 52:26
  What do you got for us?
• 52:27
  What's new?
• 52:28
  What's exciting?
• 52:28
  You know, what do you got for us?
• 52:32
  Well, the different chapters start off with a story.
• 52:37
  It's actually a real story about a patient that we had that was struggling with some kind of a chronic ailment.
• 52:44
  And they talk about the different ways that the medical doctors would address this, usually a form of a drug to suppress their symptoms.
• 52:54
  but they don't really go after the root cause of what's going on behind the scenes.
• 53:00
  That usually comes in the form of doing enough lab testing to figure out what's driving the
• 53:07
  process in the first place. Medical doctors do the very bare minimum of testing, and they never
• 53:13
  really figure out what's causing this problem to happen. In my opinion, I don't think that
• 53:20
  symptoms happen just because. There's always a reason for them. Just like when you have a
• 53:29
  check engine warning light that flashes on your dashboard of your car when something is amiss,
• 53:36
  we have a check engine warning light in our body in the form of a symptom. The check engine
• 53:41
  warning light in the car doesn't tell you exactly what the problem is. It can be caused from a
• 53:48
  multitude of different things. That's why you have to take it, the car to the mechanic, and have them
• 53:55
  put a diagnostic computer on it and figure out what's going on. Is it something electrical? Is it
• 54:03
  something with fuel delivery problems? Is it something with low engine oil or do you have a
• 54:09
  leak somewhere? It could be coming from anywhere, but it results in a check engine warning light,
• 54:15
  especially if it's flashing as I learned the hard way a couple months ago.
• 54:22
  But in your body, you have a check engine warning light called a symptom.
• 54:27
  The medical doctors look at this as the objective is to suppress the symptom
• 54:32
  and not really figure out what caused the symptom in the first place.
• 54:37
  And so different chapters talk about different conditions that we alluded to earlier,
• 54:44
  like anemias or blood sugar problems or sex hormones or food allergies or chronic inflammation.
• 54:52
  And it talks about all the different ways that we look at this problem
• 54:58
  and which labs that we would order to figure out what the root cause of the problem is
• 55:05
  and go from there.
• 55:08
  So it's not super complicated, at least I don't think it's super complicated.
• 55:12
  I read, but it does require you to figure out what's going on here.
• 55:18
  Why do I feel like this?
• 55:22
  Nice.
• 55:23
  Nice.
• 55:23
  And you said that's coming out in two months?
• 55:26
  I hope soon because it's been too long.
• 55:29
  The book is like 10 years in the making.
• 55:32
  So every time I would write something down, the next month I would just say,
• 55:38
  oh, this is garbage and throw it away.
• 55:40
  and then I learned that the opposite of perfect is done
• 55:45
  and just get something out there.
• 55:49
  Perfection is the enemy of progress.
• 55:52
  Exactly.
• 55:53
  So let the chips fall where they may.
• 55:55
  I'll deal with that later on with another book.
• 56:00
  So it's about 300 pages long
• 56:03
  and it talks about all kinds of different things
• 56:07
  that can lead to symptoms,
• 56:09
  whether it's chronic pain or hypothyroidism or blood sugar problems.
• 56:15
  There's a little bit for everybody.
• 56:19
  Very cool.
• 56:20
  Sounds good to me.
• 56:21
  How has your practice been doing?
• 56:24
  It's been doing good.
• 56:25
  So I spent about 50% of my time working with people that have neuropathy
• 56:32
  and 50% of my time dealing with metabolic issues,
• 56:38
  such as low thyroid or something like that.
• 56:42
  So if a person contacts me and they say that they are dealing with a certain problem
• 56:49
  of a certain nature, I have a specific type of a questionnaire or an assessment
• 56:57
  that I want them to complete first so I have an understanding
• 57:02
  about how severe their problem is.
• 57:06
  And then I understand what to do about it after that.
• 57:09
  So it all about collecting data collecting lab tests or whatever else I want to understand what they done for their problems so far So I not just repeating the same stuff that the medical doctors did
• 57:26
  I want to look in a different direction, order different types of labs or imaging
• 57:32
  or whatever we need to do to figure out what's going on with this person.
• 57:37
  Do you do mostly telehealth stuff these days, or do you do half and half?
• 57:45
  For neuropathy, I needed to be in person because I can't do a neurological exam over the internet.
• 57:53
  That makes sense.
• 57:54
  But if it comes to metabolic stuff, I could do health coaching over state lines.
• 57:59
  I don't call it telemedicine or telehealth so I don't get in trouble with the medical boards.
• 58:05
  I call it health coaching.
• 58:07
  Okay.
• 58:08
  Yeah.
• 58:09
  Potato, potato.
• 58:10
  The same dang thing.
• 58:12
  But yeah, you've got to stay out of those legal loop, legal.
• 58:17
  Oh, yeah.
• 58:17
  Yeah.
• 58:19
  Rabbit holes.
• 58:21
  Well, awesome.
• 58:22
  So I just blew the bits right off my brain.
• 58:29
  I hate when that happens.
• 58:30
  He made you do that last time too.
• 58:32
  Yeah, I did.
• 58:33
  It's been a while since I've had one of those.
• 58:35
  And honestly, I think I'm pretty good about that.
• 58:39
  Only Dr. Smith.
• 58:40
  He's got that effect on you.
• 58:41
  A little dusting off, huh?
• 58:43
  You know, it happens here and there, you know, just every once in a while.
• 58:47
  I will admit there are days where I have that happen more frequently, like maybe two times in a day.
• 58:56
  But usually it's, you know, months between or whatever.
• 58:59
  But it does seem to usually.
• 59:01
  The best part is when you walk in a room and then you can't figure out why you walked in that room.
• 59:06
  And then you walk back, sit down and you're like, oh, that's it.
• 59:10
  And then you walk back in, you're like, dang it.
• 59:18
  That mental block that just comes up.
• 59:21
  You're like, ah, yeah, I did that.
• 59:23
  I wanted to refill my water.
• 59:26
  And so I went in to go refill my water and I set my cup down.
• 59:29
  I refilled it, set my cup down, did something else.
• 59:33
  I think I was putting dog food in the dog bowls or whatever.
• 59:36
  And then went back to my office and I sat down.
• 59:40
  And I looked over.
• 59:41
  I'm like, oh, I need to go get my water.
• 59:43
  Walked back.
• 59:45
  What am I doing?
• 59:46
  Walked back.
• 59:47
  I'm like, oh, I'm working.
• 59:49
  I need my water.
• 59:50
  I think I did it three times before I finally collected my cup.
• 59:54
  You got a little workout in, huh?
• 59:56
  hey you know little exercise here a little exercise there i've actually changed some of
• 1:00:02
  my routine as well based on a recent uh guest we had also you know someone uh you know veterinarian
• 1:00:09
  but uh a health or no it was it wasn't him it was it was another gentleman but uh nowadays i when i
• 1:00:17
  get up um so i am a coffee drinker that's not going to change uh but nowadays when i get up i
• 1:00:22
  get up and do my chores and do a bunch of stuff. Well, first, and this has been a longstanding
• 1:00:28
  habit. When I first wake up, the very first thing I do is slam like probably 12 ounces of water.
• 1:00:34
  I mean, just chug it. Um, and then I'll go and do my chores and do stuff like that before I come
• 1:00:41
  back and make coffee. And I think, you know, honestly, it's, it seems like it's been
• 1:00:47
  comfortable for me.
• 1:00:50
  You know, I like it.
• 1:00:51
  I often talk about the six pillars of wellness.
• 1:00:59
  And in order to figure out what people need for wellness,
• 1:01:02
  I started off by asking, what do you need for general health?
• 1:01:07
  And the six pillars are nutrition, hydration in the form of drinking water,
• 1:01:14
  sleep
• 1:01:17
  getting about
• 1:01:18
  five to nine hours of restful
• 1:01:21
  replenishing sleep every night
• 1:01:23
  stress
• 1:01:25
  management that could come in the
• 1:01:27
  form of either journaling
• 1:01:28
  or meditation
• 1:01:31
  or guided imagery or whatever
• 1:01:33
  works for you
• 1:01:34
  Fight Club
• 1:01:35
  The first rule of Fight Club is what?
• 1:01:40
  I don't know
• 1:01:41
  We're not going to talk about Fight Club
• 1:01:43
  club. Yeah, exactly. There is exercise and there is managing your nervous system and your posture
• 1:01:54
  and your joints through chiropractic care or something like that. So if you focus on nutrition,
• 1:02:03
  hydration, sleep, stress management, exercising, and nervous system maintenance,
• 1:02:11
  imagine how much
• 1:02:13
  how fewer
• 1:02:14
  pharmaceutical drugs
• 1:02:16
  that you would need
• 1:02:17
  in your life
• 1:02:17
  if you just focus
• 1:02:19
  on those six things
• 1:02:20
  so I taught
• 1:02:22
  I taught
• 1:02:22
  I haven't seen
• 1:02:23
  a general
• 1:02:24
  in
• 1:02:25
  well over a decade
• 1:02:29
  I've had two doctors visits.
• 1:02:34
  Well, no, more than that, probably about five.
• 1:02:37
  All of them emergency, four of them for the same incident.
• 1:02:42
  Well, you know, five broken ribs, a broken collarbone,
• 1:02:45
  and, you know, a nice gash in the back of my head that required staples.
• 1:02:51
  Yeah, I needed more than one visit.
• 1:02:54
  Is this from a bar fight?
• 1:02:57
  Yeah, actually, yes.
• 1:02:59
  Not of my choosing.
• 1:03:03
  Somebody just walloped you out with a bottle.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, something like that.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah, it was more than one somebody.
• 1:03:10
  It was a number of somebodies.
• 1:03:13
  He's forgiving me, though.
• 1:03:17
  We're friends again.
• 1:03:19
  But, you know, I just, you know, honestly, I, you know,
• 1:03:29
  So the typical experience, right?
• 1:03:31
  My father was a doctor.
• 1:03:33
  I, you know, took some medical, you know, pre-med stuff when I was, you know, going through college.
• 1:03:40
  One of my goals was to become a doctor.
• 1:03:43
  And, you know, the big thing for me is the, you know, what you described, what we've talked about, right, is, you know, you walk in and it's, oh, you've got this.
• 1:03:54
  Here, you need to take this.
• 1:03:56
  But you don't know what's causing it, do you?
• 1:03:58
  You don't even care, do you? No, I don't. I take this and it'll manage your symptom.
• 1:04:05
  And I think that there is, you know, and certainly I'm not going to encourage anyone to not see a doctor.
• 1:04:13
  I'm also not going to encourage anyone aside from if you are leaking or something that is normally, you know, hard and in one piece is now in more than one piece.
• 1:04:25
  then I would encourage you seek out medical help. But, you know, I'm not going to encourage either.
• 1:04:31
  What I will say is come to your own conclusions, make your own decisions for you and what's best
• 1:04:36
  for you. Right. And that is your right as a human being. But again, it just seemed like it was a
• 1:04:42
  constant thing of, oh, here, we want to put you on this. We want to put you on that. You know,
• 1:04:47
  you need to be on this. Oh, you look like you're having this problem here. Take this medication.
• 1:04:51
  and it just seemed self-defeating to me like i'm not getting anything from you other than
• 1:04:58
  medication that you want to shill off onto me and it's almost always some brand new medication to
• 1:05:04
  go figure incentives i don't know just take the statins and stop asking why
• 1:05:10
  and if you're diabetic get on the metformin and don't ask why just take my take your statins and
• 1:05:18
  stop causing trouble. Right. That's right. Exactly. And so, you know, for me, I, I, I,
• 1:05:23
  I out of routine do not see a medical professional for anything. Uh, I, you know, again, I, I limit
• 1:05:30
  it to emergency care. Now that may change as I age. I don't know. I'm still pretty young though.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah. Well, I think, I think it's kind of refreshing to hear that. I wish that more
• 1:05:41
  people who are more proactive and more seeking self-care more than just relying on pharmaceuticals
• 1:05:50
  for everything. I'll give you an example of what I see on a daily basis. People come to me and they
• 1:05:59
  have, say, neuropathy or problems with the nerves. The doctors don't know what to do with them,
• 1:06:07
  So they'll give them a drug called gabapentin.
• 1:06:11
  Gabapentin was never formulated to treat neuropathy.
• 1:06:16
  It was never FDA approved to treat neuropathy.
• 1:06:19
  What this drug was designed for was to treat epilepsy.
• 1:06:24
  So clinically what it does is slow down your brain.
• 1:06:26
  And honestly it was designed to treat epilepsy because of the fact that phenobarbital went generic.
• 1:06:33
  That's the only reason it exists.
• 1:06:35
  so so another word for gabapentin is neurontin the reason that they have two names is one is
• 1:06:43
  is a generic one of them is a brand name and then they have lyrica that you've probably seen tv
• 1:06:50
  commercials for and that's that's just extra strength neurontin it's like saying acetaminophen
• 1:06:58
  Tylenol versus extra strength Tylenol.
• 1:07:04
  They're both acetaminophen.
• 1:07:05
  They're both going to do the same thing.
• 1:07:07
  But what it does clinically is it slows down your brain waves
• 1:07:11
  so you can't feel your feet.
• 1:07:14
  So if your feet feel like they're on fire,
• 1:07:18
  if you have diabetic nerve pain,
• 1:07:20
  it can offer you a little bit of comfort.
• 1:07:22
  But it's not going to do anything.
• 1:07:24
  It's not going to do squat to help you with balance issues.
• 1:07:28
  or numbness or tingling or muscle cramps or muscle weakness or circulation disease.
• 1:07:35
  It not going to do anything for that But that what the medical doctors give people on a regular basis Whether it a GP or if it a neurologist they all do the same exact thing
• 1:07:49
  If it's hypothyroidism, they'll give them Synthroid or Levothyroxine,
• 1:07:56
  knowing full well that only a small fraction of people are going to be helped by this.
• 1:08:03
  But they've got to do something.
• 1:08:04
  these medications also come with their own side effects that aren't good my personal experience
• 1:08:10
  i mean not me but family members that stuff's not easy to stop taking either yeah gabapentin is
• 1:08:16
  actually one of those drugs that is very dangerous to just stop taking you right you kind of have to
• 1:08:23
  wean yourself off so they it starts off as um you got a little numbness and a little tingling
• 1:08:32
  and so the doctor will give you, say, 100 milligrams of gabapentin.
• 1:08:38
  And then the intensity and or frequency of the disease starts to progress over time.
• 1:08:46
  In order to keep up with the demand, the doctor's going to start to give you 100 milligrams twice a day
• 1:08:53
  and then three times a day.
• 1:08:55
  Then he's going to bump it up to 200 milligrams three times a day
• 1:09:00
  and then 300 milligrams a few times a day.
• 1:09:04
  I had a guy come in.
• 1:09:05
  He was taking 2,700 milligrams a day of gabapentin.
• 1:09:11
  Whoa.
• 1:09:11
  And it's not in my license to tell people to stop taking their drugs.
• 1:09:17
  But what I do is I go to a physician's desk reference.
• 1:09:22
  It's a big, thick book.
• 1:09:23
  And I will photocopy the side effects of that particular drug that they're taking.
• 1:09:29
  They'll say, this is what's reported by the pharmacists as a potential side effect of that drug.
• 1:09:38
  Do you have any of these?
• 1:09:40
  And invariably, they sheepishly look at me like, oh, my God,
• 1:09:43
  I didn't realize that the drug I'm taking could be causing this side effect in the first place.
• 1:09:49
  I had a woman that was taking all kinds of drugs, and one of her biggest complaints was constipation.
• 1:09:56
  She was taking eight drugs, all of which had a reported side effect of constipation.
• 1:10:03
  It slowed down her bowel transit times.
• 1:10:06
  And I tried to tell her, and she just would not.
• 1:10:09
  She was so in love with her drugs, she couldn't bear to be without them.
• 1:10:14
  I'm sure a lot of these patients are taking these things because they just can't even imagine being without them.
• 1:10:20
  Like fibromyalgia, for example, and they're taking this stuff thinking it's taken care of it.
• 1:10:26
  I'm not so sure that it's not making it worse in some cases.
• 1:10:30
  But the doctors really don't offer them any other options.
• 1:10:34
  Just like there's more than one way to cook an egg, there's more than one way to fix a health problem.
• 1:10:40
  Drugs are one option.
• 1:10:42
  It's not the only option available.
• 1:10:44
  so we talked about supplements but i think that you have to start off with general lifestyle
• 1:10:52
  with nutrition and hydration you can't go to mcdonald's six times a week and then biggie
• 1:10:59
  size your lipitor that's it i'm out no honestly that's that's the typical reaction right i mean
• 1:11:05
  it's it's maddening to me but you know i i was engaged in conversation with a group of people
• 1:11:13
  the other day and they were, you know, one, one person was specifically asking, you know,
• 1:11:19
  what, what medications like, Hey, I'm having trouble with my weight and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:11:22
  And this has been going on for, you know, blah, blah, blah. And, um, you know, so they were asking,
• 1:11:29
  you know, what medications are you taking and what, how's it working for you? And, and, you know,
• 1:11:34
  I, I went in and basically was just say, my statement was, look, this is, this is difficult.
• 1:11:40
  It's not, not super easy, but I promise you, if you do it for 30 days, it will become infinitely
• 1:11:45
  easy.
• 1:11:46
  And, and I would suggest you cut two things from your diet.
• 1:11:50
  Just, just do it.
• 1:11:51
  Just two things.
• 1:11:53
  And, and those are sugar and carbs.
• 1:11:56
  Cut them entirely out of your diet.
• 1:12:00
  You know, no breads, no cereals, no, no sugars, no coffees with, you know, all the frou-frou
• 1:12:06
  stuff in them.
• 1:12:07
  And, you know, cut it all out.
• 1:12:09
  Just just stop. Right. And pay attention to that. And I said, I think if you do this, you know, within 30 days, you'll notice a remarkable difference and you'll notice the weight is shedding nicely and quickly.
• 1:12:21
  And I said, and the bonus on that is the only side effects are for 30 days, you're going to you're going to be a little edgy and you're going to you're going to feel a little uncomfortable with that change because of the craving your body is going to go through.
• 1:12:35
  And the response was, oh, nobody wants to see me in that state.
• 1:12:39
  There's no way that's even possible.
• 1:12:44
  So they wreck their own health by eating forbidden foods and carbs and sugar and processed things And then they want to clean up the mess afterwards by taking pharmaceutical after pharmaceutical after pharmaceutical
• 1:13:02
  And what's worse is these GLP ones actually work and do well as long as you're on them.
• 1:13:08
  But the second you come off, you've got like a maximal rebound effect that's going to put every
• 1:13:14
  bit of fat that you took off back on and probably another 10 to 50 percent on top of that and make
• 1:13:22
  it far more challenging to get off of number one number two they have some seriously dangerous
• 1:13:28
  side effects i mean read the side effects for these things like ozempic you know you know it
• 1:13:35
  wasn't isn't one of them blindness like oh you just you don't see anymore you know how vain are
• 1:13:41
  you going to be if you can't see yourself in the mirror anymore ever ever but they have a catchy
• 1:13:47
  song on the commercial man come on lighten up you forgot to mention that that a lot of people
• 1:13:55
  are taking diabetes medications that don't have diabetes well yeah yeah that's what these were
• 1:14:04
  for yeah they're they're they're prescribing them off label they're prescribing them for a weight
• 1:14:10
  loss solution, but they're not, they don't have blood sugar disorders. And that's what it was
• 1:14:17
  designed for. And so that should give people a moment of pause that are wanting to take a Zempic
• 1:14:26
  or Wegovi or whatever. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I completely agree. But you know, I mean,
• 1:14:33
  we've had this, you know, this has happened. I can't remember a year it wasn't happening,
• 1:14:39
  right i mean what was it you know the big one the big first one that i recall was was was it uh
• 1:14:46
  fin bin or something like that fin fin fin fin fin was that the one that caused people to develop
• 1:14:53
  uh flippers instead of the arms and legs no no that was uh thalidomide no i think that
• 1:15:00
  gave people heart attacks or something yeah it was basically you know speed speed methamphetamines
• 1:15:07
  essentially um and it was like this big diet drug and it became very popular and very successful
• 1:15:14
  and almost like a social status thing right i mean literally like oh i'm on finfin are you on
• 1:15:19
  you should get on it it's so amazing you know there's a 90s right yeah i think so yeah i can't
• 1:15:25
  i can't even fathom how people would not think that taking speed would have bad health effects
• 1:15:31
  because it's not labeled speed yeah nobody cares they hear the nice little pharmaceutical name they
• 1:15:38
  they hear a little jingle the doctor's like you should try this and they're like sold man let's
• 1:15:45
  do it how much can i have they don't they don't tell people it's uh what heal a monster venom
• 1:15:50
  gland extract or whatever it is right the ozempic yeah yeah that's what it is it's venom you're
• 1:15:58
  putting venom into your body just like botox right you're literally putting one of the most
• 1:16:04
  dangerous bacterium in the world into your body just lighten up man what can possibly toxin
• 1:16:12
  yeah yeah it's like what are you doing but you're a square dude come on i know apparently
• 1:16:19
  get with the program man everyone's doing it it's totally good it's rad sorry what do they say that
• 1:16:26
  if your doctor is not focused on curing you and you don't have a doctor, you have a drug dealer.
• 1:16:35
  100%. And that right there ties exactly into why I don't have a GP and I don't want a GP and I don't
• 1:16:43
  want anything to do with, you know, checkups. Because I just, you know, I think my body will
• 1:16:51
  tell me if there's something wrong. It always has. Um, and you know, I, I'm very willing to
• 1:16:57
  listen to it. And you know, what I've found is with eating clean and with, you know, almost forced
• 1:17:05
  exercise, right? I mean, I live on a farm, so I'm sorry, but 50 pounds feed sacks are going to be
• 1:17:10
  loaded into a, you know, a utility vehicle later than when we get done here and they're going to
• 1:17:16
  be moved to the feed shed where they're going to be pulled off and then stacked again. And, you
• 1:17:20
  Buckets of feed have to be carried around and pastures have to be opened and fences need mending.
• 1:17:26
  And so, you know, all of those six pillars that you mentioned are things that just come with the territory of living like this.
• 1:17:34
  Right. And a lot of people don't have that, but you can you can fit these into your life.
• 1:17:41
  You know what I mean? Like, stop looking for the closest parking spot.
• 1:17:45
  I mean, honestly, park in the furthest one. Be a rebel.
• 1:17:49
  You know?
• 1:17:50
  Walk.
• 1:17:52
  I don't know.
• 1:17:54
  Life hacks from...
• 1:17:56
  You're just mean.
• 1:18:02
  I just think people should take more responsibility for their health And I think that we have gotten to a point where we farmed that out to someone that is an expert
• 1:18:16
  And most people are unwilling to see the reality of it, which is this is literally managing symptoms.
• 1:18:24
  They're not treating your high blood pressure problem.
• 1:18:29
  They're making the numbers go down.
• 1:18:31
  That's all.
• 1:18:32
  The problem still exists.
• 1:18:35
  Take yourself off the meds, you'll find out exactly.
• 1:18:38
  Did the problem go away?
• 1:18:39
  Did it diminish?
• 1:18:40
  It probably got worse.
• 1:18:43
  What year was it that the American Heart Association changed the published guidelines of what the normal average blood pressure should be from 120 over 80 to 110 over 70?
• 1:19:01
  This year.
• 1:19:01
  Specifically to sell more blood pressure medicines.
• 1:19:05
  25 or 26.
• 1:19:07
  It was either this or last year.
• 1:19:09
  And prior to that, they did it again in 1980-something,
• 1:19:12
  and they changed it from 160 over 110, I want to say.
• 1:19:19
  Maybe it was 160 over 110 down to 120 over 90.
• 1:19:24
  They do that with lab results, too.
• 1:19:26
  They change the guidelines for that stuff.
• 1:19:31
  Now, I'll tell you what, I'm going to take your advice, Havoc.
• 1:19:34
  I'm not going to listen to my doctor anymore.
• 1:19:36
  I'm only going to take the word of people that legitimately have my concerns in mind, like celebrities and politicians.
• 1:19:43
  Again, that was not my advice.
• 1:19:45
  My advice was to do what you feel is in your best interest as an individual.
• 1:19:52
  That may be continue what you're doing.
• 1:19:54
  It may be change what you're doing.
• 1:19:56
  It may be do nothing.
• 1:19:57
  I don't know.
• 1:19:58
  But that's your choice to make as an individual, and that is my advice.
• 1:20:03
  And by the way, you have to also schlep 50-pound bags of grain to goats and stuff like that.
• 1:20:10
  It's not bad.
• 1:20:12
  It's good for you.
• 1:20:13
  I'll be honest with you.
• 1:20:14
  It is.
• 1:20:15
  It tires you out.
• 1:20:17
  I mean, you know, especially when you get 30 of them in, you know, and you have to, you know,
• 1:20:22
  take them you know stack them onto one thing and then you know go and then pull them off and stack
• 1:20:27
  them onto another thing and then you know probably every day you're pulling at least one out of there
• 1:20:33
  and bringing it from the feed shed to the barn and you know things of this nature yeah it you know if
• 1:20:39
  you're constantly lifting 50 pound things you'll at least maintain muscle mass as you get I think
• 1:20:45
  you should get rid of that side by side just do it by hand we do sometimes we have many times you
• 1:20:51
  Honestly, we've carried probably no more than 10.
• 1:20:54
  If we get to 10 bags and it's like, no, we'll do something to limit this because it's a long walk to the feed shed with a 50-pound bag on your shoulder.
• 1:21:05
  Well, you definitely appreciate your bed a lot more.
• 1:21:09
  Without question.
• 1:21:10
  I'm sure.
• 1:21:11
  Without question.
• 1:21:12
  My bed is my friend.
• 1:21:13
  Another life hack I've done.
• 1:21:16
  And this probably won't work for everyone.
• 1:21:19
  And I did it during a period where I wasn't working for a couple of weeks during a vacation time.
• 1:21:27
  And what I started doing was leaving the blinds open in my bedroom.
• 1:21:33
  And when I go to bed at night, I set an alarm as kind of an emergency point.
• 1:21:40
  But the light actually wakes me up.
• 1:21:42
  And I rarely ever wake up to an alarm anymore.
• 1:21:47
  I wake up because the sun came up and my body went, oh, it's time for us to be up.
• 1:21:52
  And what I can tell you is, is, and this is a very, very sharp contrast. You know, if I do have to
• 1:22:00
  wake up to an alarm, I feel like absolute crap. I'm not kidding you for at least a couple hours
• 1:22:07
  in the morning. I just, I feel like crap. And you know, I may have only gotten five more minutes
• 1:22:14
  of sleep till the sun woke me up. But just, just that rude, you know, smack come right out of it.
• 1:22:23
  Because, you know, with the light coming up, et cetera, the circadian rhythm actually coming back
• 1:22:29
  to life in my body, you know, I'm not waking up like it's light, you know, I'm waking up kind of
• 1:22:36
  like, oh, you know, I find myself kind of awake, but my, my eyes are still closed. And, you know,
• 1:22:42
  I start opening my eyes and it's one of those.
• 1:22:45
  It's not a, you know,
• 1:22:47
  I can tell you how to fix all that.
• 1:22:50
  You just got to get on chicken time.
• 1:22:51
  Like I do when,
• 1:22:54
  when it's morning and the sun comes up,
• 1:22:57
  I get up.
• 1:22:57
  When the sun goes down,
• 1:22:59
  I go to bed.
• 1:23:00
  Now people were,
• 1:23:01
  we were having a discussion last week.
• 1:23:03
  They were talking about the,
• 1:23:04
  the daylight savings time and how they're going to get,
• 1:23:06
  you know,
• 1:23:06
  maybe change it and it's going to throw them all off.
• 1:23:09
  And I'm like,
• 1:23:09
  what difference?
• 1:23:10
  It don't make any difference to me.
• 1:23:11
  it's like I don't know I hate that stuff I just hate it because you got to go
• 1:23:16
  change all the clocks look here's the thing right you
• 1:23:19
  We run on clocks, right?
• 1:23:21
  Everyone does.
• 1:23:22
  You run on kind of a schedule.
• 1:23:23
  You do.
• 1:23:24
  You eat at a specific time.
• 1:23:26
  Do you keep it at the same time?
• 1:23:28
  I do like schedules, I have to admit.
• 1:23:30
  Well, does 4 o'clock turn into 5 o'clock half the year, and then it's 4 o'clock the other half of the year, or is it 5 o'clock all year?
• 1:23:37
  I don't know.
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  So if it's 5 o'clock all year, you're changing that schedule.
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  And here's a prime example, and you can find no better example of how bad this is.
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  Ask your dogs.
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  they're like no no i don't care what that clock thing says it's time to eat right now
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  and you're like no no the clock's rolled back and no no it's time right now don't ask the cat
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  because the cat's going to say it's a good time to eat anytime they don't care they're like hey
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  my bowl is 80 full which means it's 20 empty fill it up the rest of the way there is no food
• 1:24:12
  Essentially, it's empty. Yes.
• 1:24:14
  All right. So thank you again for joining us for another episode. I really appreciate it, Dr. Smith. It's a pleasure when you do come on. I think your knowledge is wonderful and your ability to explain things in simple, common terms is amazing.
• 1:24:34
  And you know one question we like to ask all our guests before we we kind of end the segment is you know throughout our lives there a figure that had a massive impact on our lives
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  Could be a sixth grade science teacher, historical figure, an author, could be mom.
• 1:24:53
  Who would you like to shout out?
• 1:24:57
  Probably Datis Karazian.
• 1:24:59
  He's a chiropractor, is a PhD from Harvard, he's a researcher, published author, and he's a giant figurehead in functional medicine.
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  And I really appreciate the work that he's done, and I really appreciate the wisdom that he has shared with other people.
• 1:25:24
  Wonderful, wonderful.
• 1:25:26
  All right. So you've got a new book coming out soon, we hope. And, you know, barring any publisher stuff and editors and all that craziness. And I believe it's Why Am I Still Sick by Dr. Kevin Smith. So stay sharp and look for that book coming out. What else you got working on? Where can people find you? What's the best way to get a hold of you and contact you for your services?
• 1:25:54
  The best way to get a hold of me is through my website at metabolicsolutions And on metabolicsolutions I have a free metabolic health assessment that everybody can do
• 1:26:10
  It takes about two minutes, and it's completely free.
• 1:26:16
  It's about 12 questions long, and you can get results sent right to your inbox,
• 1:26:22
  or you can get the results sent to you via text, whatever you decide to do.
• 1:26:30
  And when the book is available,
• 1:26:33
  I will set it up so that everybody can get a free download
• 1:26:38
  directly to their inbox that way.
• 1:26:42
  And so go to metabolicsolutions.net,
• 1:26:45
  take the free health assessment, the metabolic health quiz.
• 1:26:50
  and if you have a specific question about something that you've been struggling with
• 1:26:59
  or you're up against the wall and you don't know what to do, send me a message.
• 1:27:04
  I have a contact page on there.
• 1:27:08
  And I'm usually very good with emails and I'll get back to you.
• 1:27:12
  So go to that contact page.
• 1:27:16
  Awesome You heard the man metabolic solutions dot net go check it out thank you so much for giving us some of your time Time is one of our most precious if not our most precious commodity And we really appreciate you giving some of us your time And we appreciate you giving us some of your time as well
• 1:27:35
  you know, thank you very much for having me. Absolutely. You know where you can find us
• 1:27:41
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• 1:27:47
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• 1:27:56
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• 1:28:01
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• 1:28:06
  And remember, wherever you are, whenever you're watching this, have an amazing day.
• 1:28:15
  Thanks for coming by again, Dr. Smith.
• 1:28:16
  See you, everybody.
• 1:28:18
  See you guys.
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