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  Speaker 2: In this episode of Disguised Coverage, Appreciate you, folks for
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  Speaker 2: tuning in. In this episode of Disguised Coverage, we are
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  Speaker 2: going to be diving into the critical elements and matchup
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  Speaker 2: pieces for the Buffalo Bills versus Jacksonville Jaguars Week three
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  Speaker 2: primetime game, a game that sees both teams kind of
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  Speaker 2: onpposite ends of the spectrum heading into this Week three
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  Speaker 2: game with the Jags being zero to two and the
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  Speaker 2: Bills being two and zero. But the Jags have been
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  Speaker 2: a sneaky, annoying, painful team for the Bills in the past,
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  Speaker 2: kind of having their number a little bit the past
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  Speaker 2: couple of years, especially last year in London, which was
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  Speaker 2: a particular pain point for the Buffalo Bills team in general,
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  Speaker 2: but especially the offense. And so we're going to dive
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  Speaker 2: into as we do here in season four disguise coverage,
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  Speaker 2: the matchup pieces, schematics, structure, players, position groups, coaching pieces,
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  Speaker 2: situational aspects, anything and everything is available to be talked
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  Speaker 2: about on this episode and in this episode and to
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  Speaker 2: have that conversation, I am joined by mister Jordan Delugo
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  Speaker 2: of Generation Jag. Jordan, we were chopping it up before
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  Speaker 2: we went live here. I appreciate you taking the time
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  Speaker 2: for joining me. You do really great stuff in general,
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  Speaker 2: but especially on the Jags I'm pumped to have you
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  Speaker 2: on to have this conversation about Yeah, a team that's
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  Speaker 2: just weird kind of. I don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: the Jet this game, and I don't want to shade it. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: before I do that for as yours, I'm getting ahead
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  Speaker 2: of myself. Tell everybody who you are, what you do
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  Speaker 2: where they can find you. Again, you do really great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time for as yours.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I appreciate you having me on Love Cover One,
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  Speaker 5: Love your show, so I cover the Jags, do you know?
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  Speaker 5: Try to put out as much content as possible, quality
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  Speaker 5: content for the Jags at Generation Jaguar on YouTube or
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  Speaker 5: at jin jag Out actually on YouTube. And then I
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  Speaker 5: also have Rogue Football where I'm talking to NFL at large.
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  Speaker 5: So like I've been watching the Bills a little bit
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  Speaker 5: as well, paying attention to from Josh Allen and all
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  Speaker 5: that good stuff and big time draft guy as well.
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  Speaker 5: Just dropped my first three round mock draft for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 5: Because people are like want and change already. People are
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  Speaker 5: like fire the head coach, fire the GM let's move
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  Speaker 5: on to next year after an zero to two start,
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  Speaker 5: So it's a lot of fun. I try to give
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  Speaker 5: people what they want. But yeah, as I said, really
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  Speaker 5: appreciate you having me on great show. Fired up to
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  Speaker 5: talk with you here.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I think I started
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  Speaker 2: I first started following you. I think it was last
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  Speaker 2: off season. I think it was during draft time. I
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  Speaker 2: think I posted something and you and I were talking
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  Speaker 2: about a prospect, and then we followed each other right
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  Speaker 2: after the discussion. And yeah, I sympathize and empathize as
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  Speaker 2: like as as a person who covers the Bills but
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  Speaker 2: who has always been a Bills fan, I'm so used
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  Speaker 2: to like, Oh the team is oh and two. All right,
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  Speaker 2: fire everybody, we're onto the next season? Who what pick
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  Speaker 2: are we getting? Who are the best prospects to have?
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  Speaker 2: To get that kind of situation. It's all all too
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  Speaker 2: familiar for myself and I know for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Bills Mafia. Within that conversation piece before we really dive
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  Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty of everything, high level view of
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  Speaker 2: this Jags team oh in two coming into this game,
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  Speaker 2: and as you know, we've talked about a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of calling for heads and grabbing torches
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  Speaker 2: and pitchforks, when it comes to this squad and this team,
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were a little hard done in Week
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  Speaker 2: one against Miami. The Travis etn fumble on the punch
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  Speaker 2: out by Javon Holland like easily could have made that
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  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven at the time and kind of
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  Speaker 2: been a little bit of a nail in the coffin.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get the ridiculous fourth down stop where
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  Speaker 2: Ramsey is running back and forth and covering tons of
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  Speaker 2: grass to help make the stop on the Jags, and
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  Speaker 2: then you can you really only get done in by
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  Speaker 2: that huge explosive touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill. I liked
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  Speaker 2: what the Jags did in Week one defensively, I felt
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  Speaker 2: they deserved that win, obviously didn't get it, and then
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  Speaker 2: stumbling a little bit against the Browns. The Browns game
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  Speaker 2: worried me more than the Dolphins game, especially from an
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  Speaker 2: offensive perspective, which I'm sure we'll talk about in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: But you know this team inside and out, sitting here
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  Speaker 2: at zero and two, are they what their record shows?
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  Speaker 2: What's wrong? What's going on? Just high level, what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with this Jaguars squad?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely are what their record shows, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: even with owning the game against the Dolphins for almost
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  Speaker 5: forty five minutes, they did make a lot of mistakes
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  Speaker 5: down the stretch, both from a coaching standpoint and execution
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  Speaker 5: wise that ended up costing them clearly. And then against
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  Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns. You know, I thought the it was
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  Speaker 5: the home opener for the Jaguars. I thought that the
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  Speaker 5: offense and defense came out slow. The defense gave up
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  Speaker 5: consecutive long drives to the Browns, but for an Amari
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  Speaker 5: Cooper touchdown or I mean drop, they might have scored
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  Speaker 5: a touchdown on their second drive instead of scoring a
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  Speaker 5: field goal. So it was ten ZIP after two drives.
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  Speaker 5: And that was like halfway through the second quarter already,
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  Speaker 5: just the Browns dominating the time of possession in the
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  Speaker 5: first half. And even though your defense only gives up
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  Speaker 5: sixteen points obviously eighteen points total with the safety, but
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  Speaker 5: sixteen points, and you feel you should win a football
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  Speaker 5: game in the NFL if you only go sixteen points.
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  Speaker 5: But when the Browns have the ball for almost the
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  Speaker 5: entire first half, they kind of get in control of
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  Speaker 5: the game a little bit. To Shaun Watson was running
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  Speaker 5: around looking a lot more comfortable than he has in
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  Speaker 5: a while, and he's undefeated in his career against the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, his days with Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Just seems always happy.
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  Speaker 5: They are with their record shows right now. But do
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  Speaker 5: they have the ability to be more than that? I think,
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  Speaker 5: without question. I think a lot of Jags fans forget
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  Speaker 5: like they started out one and two last year before
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  Speaker 5: they ended up being eight and three in the blink
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  Speaker 5: of an eye, and started out four and seven and
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two before they won, uh, you know, five
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  Speaker 5: out of six games to clinch a playoff spot. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they're owing two and they have not played great football,
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  Speaker 5: but they've been right there at the end of both
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  Speaker 5: of these football games. And you got the Bills coming
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  Speaker 5: up Monday night football in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: Not an easy task.
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  Speaker 5: You got the Texans right after that, so two really
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  Speaker 5: tough matchups to try to claw yourself out of this
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  Speaker 5: hole a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But is it possible?
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  Speaker 5: Certainly, But the Jags have a lot of work to
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  Speaker 5: do to get to a point where they can win
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  Speaker 5: one of these football games and get back kind of
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  Speaker 5: in contention, I.
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  Speaker 2: Love how you pointed out how the Jags have started
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  Speaker 2: like the past couple of years, because my prevailing thought
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  Speaker 2: going into this game is based on how the Jags
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  Speaker 2: have kind of been the past couple years and who
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  Speaker 2: the Bills have been seemingly for like forever. It would
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  Speaker 2: be so Bills and so Jags. For the Jags to
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  Speaker 2: come in and just win this game, like a game
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  Speaker 2: where everybody's like, man, the Jags really suck. They're kind
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  Speaker 2: of dead in the water, and it's like, Wow, look
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  Speaker 2: how good the Bills are. And then the Jags win
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  Speaker 2: like seventeen thirteen or like twenty four to twenty or
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  Speaker 2: some victory that you're like, oh, that kind of tracks,
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  Speaker 2: and especially with how the Jags have kind of had
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  Speaker 2: the Bill's number, like like I alluded to in the
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  Speaker 2: intro these past couple of seasons. Just yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. I just feel like weirdly uncomfortable about this game,
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact that they're in and a lot a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the pieces you talked about in so much
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  Speaker 2: of this conversation, I feel like consistently ties into the
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  Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. I love one of your points,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the time of possession. That one hit me
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  Speaker 2: super hard. I didn't look at the raw stats before
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  Speaker 2: I watched the tape from Brown's Jags, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it was in the second quarter. I was watching and
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  Speaker 2: Jags got stopped and then like the next time they
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  Speaker 2: got the ball, there was like a nine minute difference
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  Speaker 2: on the clock, and I was like, did I did
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  Speaker 2: I like scroll too fast? Did I miss a whole drive?
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  Speaker 2: And I had to like go back, And I was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like Brown's just because I started with the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Was like the brown just had the ball for a
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  Speaker 2: ton of time, and yeah, it was just I think
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  Speaker 2: slow start is a perfect way to put it. But
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  Speaker 2: then also like I feel like in kind of typical
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  Speaker 2: Jags fashion of what they've been recently, like they start
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  Speaker 2: to make some plays in the second half and then
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  Speaker 2: they're starting to like inch closer, but then they just
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  Speaker 2: can't get it done situationally, And so much of the
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  Speaker 2: conversation comes back to Trevor Lawrence. And I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: some quarterback grades from the first two weeks, and if
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  Speaker 2: you know what is Trevor Lawrence there is on the
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  Speaker 2: fourth line receiving a D grade for the first two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that's accurate for Trevor Lawrence And whether
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  Speaker 2: or not you do, how much of the poor play
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  Speaker 2: for the offense or for Lawrence himself is due to
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence or due to Peterson and kind of just the
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  Speaker 2: play calling elements that seem to a bend in question
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  Speaker 2: for the Jags team.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a DA is definitely really harsh. First
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  Speaker 5: game against the Dolphins, I thought Trevor Lawrence played really well.
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  Speaker 5: The Jaguars decided not to put the game in his
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  Speaker 5: hands at all.
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  Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: They just decided to try to go into a shell
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  Speaker 5: after that Travis et and fumble and try to run
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  Speaker 5: the ball clock. The game basically didn't end up working out,
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  Speaker 5: and if they had given Trevor Lawrence more opportunities in
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  Speaker 5: that final quarter of that game, I think it probably
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  Speaker 5: could have ended up differently. The Dolphins, I thought, were
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  Speaker 5: having a tough time with that passing offense when they
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  Speaker 5: were trying to have some balance on that side of
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  Speaker 5: the ball, So I thought he played really well in
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  Speaker 5: Week one. Overall, there was certainly some drops. Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 5: had a couple drops, and the Jaguars unsurprisingly it seems
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  Speaker 5: like every single year the receivers are at the top
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  Speaker 5: of the league, and every single year you see the
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  Speaker 5: pass pro grades and they're not great. And then last
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  Speaker 5: week he did start slow a little bit. I thought
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  Speaker 5: the entire offense started slow. The entire team started slow.
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  Speaker 5: He had a good second half overall, and I do
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  Speaker 5: think if you were just grading that first half, probably
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  Speaker 5: a DA is fair, but overall, probably a C last week,
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  Speaker 5: a B the week before, So somewhere in that range
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  Speaker 5: G plus B minus for the year for me, for
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  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Very fair. I'm I'm in lockstep with you. I've got
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  Speaker 2: I've got some points that i want to say, but
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  Speaker 2: they're tied to one of my matchup pieces, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna keep it in the holster for now. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought this was was harsh for Lawrence, especially considering,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a great point. I'm immediately thinking like Brian
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior had a couple drops in the Browns game.
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  Speaker 2: Strange had one on a really nice ball on an
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  Speaker 2: outbreaking route towards the sideline, and then like the next play,
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  Speaker 2: a throw from Lawnce came in a little hot on
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  Speaker 2: the spot route, but it went through Stranger's hands again,
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  Speaker 2: but then Strange makes up for it later like they're Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like every year he's getting he's getting guys
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  Speaker 2: with drops and then like all the EPA that's lost
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  Speaker 2: from the drops. It just seems like he like this
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  Speaker 2: offense kind of snake bit in that regard with him
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  Speaker 2: and the drops in particular. But of course, uh, like
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  Speaker 2: let's pivot. Let's shift dive into the matchup pieces, the
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  Speaker 2: critical elements that will decide Bill's versus Jaguars. You were
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  Speaker 2: the guests, so you can go first. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you have them ranked. If you do, you can
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  Speaker 2: start from the bottom one or the top, whatever you
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  Speaker 2: want to do. The floor is yours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I think for me, when I look at this matchup,
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  Speaker 5: the first thing I see, and it was the same
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  Speaker 5: thing I saw last week the Jaguars tackles Cam Robinson
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  Speaker 5: and Anton Harrison. You know, when healthy last year, they
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  Speaker 5: were both solid in past protection. They have not really
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  Speaker 5: been solid in past protection so far this year. And
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  Speaker 5: it certainly doesn't help when you're playing Miles Garrett. It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't help when you've got Jalen Phillips who somehow coming
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  Speaker 5: off that achilles looks unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Fine, yeah right, it doesn't help.
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  Speaker 5: But it also doesn't help when you got guys like
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  Speaker 5: Von Miller looking healthy, Gregory Russo playing great football. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that just like conceptually the Jaguars expected to
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  Speaker 5: have good pass protection from their tackles heading into the year,
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  Speaker 5: and that hasn't happened yet consistently enough. And so if
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  Speaker 5: they're going to be the type of offense they want
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  Speaker 5: to be, they need to have a little bit protection,
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  Speaker 5: better protection throughout the line. You look at Ed Oliver,
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  Speaker 5: he can absolutely wreck the shop as well. And they've
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  Speaker 5: got depth up front, the bills due defensively, so they've
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  Speaker 5: got a bunch of guys that can get the job done.
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  Speaker 5: I think if the Jaguars want to help Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 5: in this football game and help make it a little
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  Speaker 5: easier for him, they've got to just be able to protect,
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  Speaker 5: not like way better, but like a little bit like
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  Speaker 5: maybe execute on like two percent more dropbacks in terms
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  Speaker 5: of pass protection than they have been the last couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks and give Trevor Lawrence a chance.
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  Speaker 2: That was so that was like my fourth point. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's so funny that you led with that. I
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  Speaker 2: was so close to making this one instead of what
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  Speaker 2: my number three ended up being.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Jags line is weird to me because individually,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't think they're terrible, like I cam Robinson
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  Speaker 2: is fine, Ezra Cleveland is fine. I'm the Bill's old
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  Speaker 2: line is good. But I'm still sad to see Mitch
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  Speaker 2: morse go, although I know what his struggles and his
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  Speaker 2: limitations are. I thought, suref, I've liked Brandon Shurf. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he had a rough game against Cleveland, and then
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  Speaker 2: yet I echo your thoughts and sentiments on Harrison and
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  Speaker 2: so much of it too for me, especially in the
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  Speaker 2: game against the Browns. And I know the Browns defense
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  Speaker 2: is a good unit based on what they were last year,
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  Speaker 2: but it just seems so many like issues in protection
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  Speaker 2: were tied to like the schematics of it, like they're
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  Speaker 2: sliding and just leaving a free runner. And Etn's having
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  Speaker 2: pass pro issues where he's just not protecting, he's not
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  Speaker 2: scanning properly and fitting where it looks like he needs
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  Speaker 2: to fit. I thought Dearonis Johnson was solid in passport
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  Speaker 2: for most of the game. He had one or two
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  Speaker 2: errors that I'm remembering off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 2: but he's scanning and fitting it and fitting where he
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  Speaker 2: needs to in the A gap, and then they'll put
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  Speaker 2: Etn in there and he looks and just leaves it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: like Hicks is coming through, Okay, you're just gonna let
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  Speaker 2: Hicks go, and then Hicks us through and they would
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  Speaker 2: show five and bring four and slide to one side
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  Speaker 2: and you got a defensive tackle coming in free. It
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  Speaker 2: just seemed like there was a lot of disconnection up
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  Speaker 2: front with their pass protection. And again, for me, it's
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: weird because I don't individually, I don't think they're bad,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Like I don't look at the line. I'm like, all
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: that makes sense because this guy is subpar and this
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: guy is subpar. I think from a talent perspective, they're
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: really at worst like kind of an average group. But
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it just seems like schematically they're pretty
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: challenged in pass protection right now. And then it's Lawrence
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: is the one who's really paying the price because they're
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: on him in just a hurry, like over and over again.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think communication has been an issue pre Snap,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: whether it's Mitch Moore and Doug Peterson alluded to this,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: whether it's Mitch Morse, you know, trying to identify protection
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: and blitz packages, or Trevor Lawrence himself not doing it properly.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Doug Peterson said communication has got to be better. And also,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: like against the Browns, just pre snap operational beyond just
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: the communication and setting protections was an issue. Just getting
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: the playoff in time, fair like, and that's in it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can't have that issue in year three
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: of an offense with a with a quarterback in year three,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: and I know it happens, It does happen, but it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: it's got to improve for the Jaguars to be able
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: to be the type of offense they want to be.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And last week too, specifically, like beyond just having trouble,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: you know with tackles, dealing with Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: their blitzes were killing the Jaguars linebacker blitz safety like
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Jeremiah was korama. They couldn't touch him, they could not
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: touch him, and they really had a hard time with
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Grant Delpit as well whenever they decided to blitz him.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: So I thought that that was a big problem. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: if the Bills want to blitz heat it up a
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: little bit more with those linebackers than they normally do,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's a bad idea this week, And.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: It also felt like the like every time the Browns
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: used a run blitz it worked for like a negative
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: like two or four yard loss for the Jags. Like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: every time there were runs where they they pull Robinson
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: or they pull Harrison, and to your point, like Delpit
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: or Cora Moa or Hicks at times two would trigger
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: immediately firing and shooting through the gap and Etn's hit
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: like as he's getting the ball from Lawrence. And there
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: was one two I remember one play action where they
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: pull they pull Harrison to make it seem like they're
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: running a tackle wrap and Hicks, I think, immediately triggers.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And then Lawrence goes to give the play action fake
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: it's from guns, so Etn cuts in front of Lawrence
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and as Lawrence is giving the fake, Hicks is already
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: barreling down on him. So then Lawrence is trying to
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: make a move, but he trips over Etn and falls down.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And it's just like I just felt like every time
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: they blitzed it worked to your point, like against the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: past or if it was a run blitz, they were
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: generating negative yardage and changing that toxic differential consistently, And
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was the Browns picking up
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: on keys or just perfect timing but yeah, it just
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: seemed like when the Browns were playing on that front foot,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: it worked time and time again. And it wasn't just
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a pure well look who they have. It wasn't guys
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: just winning one on one. It was guys coming screaming
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: through the alley free, untouched and causing problems in the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: run and causing problems in the past. I love that
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: point from you. That's really well said. I don't know
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: where to go, all right, I'm gonna stay on the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Jags offensive side of the ball since you led with that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and so I didn't know how to title this, so
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I titled it how many how many Trevor Lawrence throws
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: do we get that show him to be the prince
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that was promised? So basically like, how many prints that
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: was promise throws from Trevor Lawrence do we get? And
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I think back to if for everybody listening, if you
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: have not seen it, I feel like it fell under
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you know, the storylines in week one because the Jags lost,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Like the type of throws I'm talking about his touchdown
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: throat to Brian Thomas Junior in Week one against the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: dult ridiculous, ridiculous he throws that when he throws it
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and where he places it is insane. Thomas is coming
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: from the field side on a deep over in the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: red zone. He throws it when Thomas is in like midfield,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: while pressure is bearing down on him and he's getting hit.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Then he layers it over a linebacker Jalen Ramsey and
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer right into the bucket to Brian Thomas Junior,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: who catches it right right on the boundary in the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: back and toe taps like that throw was gorgeous, even
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and I know it wasn't. Maybe, I mean it was
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: more challenging the one he made against the Browns from
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a distance perspective, even the one he threw to Brian
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior in Week two, the sixty six yard or whatever.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Gorgeous throw, really nice acceleration from Brian Thomas Junior. But
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like Lawrence with a decent amount of regularity,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: even in games where he's terrible, he's like thirteen to
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: twenty seven for one hundred and twenty something yards, he'll
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: pull off like one to two throws where you're just like, oh,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: like that's the guy. That's the guy that was like
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the top recruit and started early at Clemson and why
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: he was the number one pick, and so I just
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: want to know, like, how many you know, Prince that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was promised Trevor Lawrence throws do we get? And also
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: how much does it matter or swing the pendulum a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: little bit in this game, because, like we talked about,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the protection for the Jags has been shaky and overall,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I just I feel like they're play calling hasn't been
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: great situationally. Even just to use one, you know, kind
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: of microcosm as an example, you got the ball in
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the two yard line the brown safety. Your protection has
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: been shaky all game, and you go spread and you're
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: running an out and up towards the bottom. And what
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: makes it even worse is the outing up was there
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior is open? Yeah, Emerson squats and Thomas
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: is open, but Lawrence has literally no time And just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: like why are you going shotgun on your own two
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: when you've had issues in protection all game? Like so
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the situational play calling, the red zone play calling wasn't
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: great in that game. They're one for four in the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: red zone against Cleveland. It just overall their offense just
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: feels disjointed and almost kind of like they're calling plays
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: just to call plays, and so my thought is this
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: offense will only go as far as Trevor Lawrence making
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: some ridiculous throws will take them. I also really like
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Travis Etn, and I think you have the opportunity for
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Eatn to bust off some explosives whenever he has the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: ball in his hand. I don't care if it's on
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a dump off or a screen or the run. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: then Brian Thomas Junior is explosive as well. But yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: it feels like so much of this offense is just
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence has to make like a god to your throat,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: which he can. And then my thought is, Okay, how
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: many of those does he make? And then what kind
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of impact do they have because has the game gotten
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: away from them? Is it close? How much does that
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: swing the pendulum? Because man, he can just he can
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: really uncork some throws that make you just stop and go, oh,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: like that's why he's that good and make you want
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to rewind and watch it on the All twenty two.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: They're just some of the throws he makes are just
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: crazy impressive.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they really are, as you mentioned, I mean, it's
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: it's a sight to behold at times, and I think
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: you know the question how many of those will matter?
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: How many of those are made. Obviously protection matters, but
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: who he's thrown it to when he does that as well,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Like some of the passes that go incomplete are unbelievable passes.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: But when he's thrown it to Brian Thomas Junior, that
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: connection is something special. And the Jaguars got to target
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: him more. They've got to target him more. They didn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: target him a single time in the second half against
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins. I think he only had four targets
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: against the Browns. Like, this guy needs to be getting
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: close to ten targets a game, not only because if
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: how talented he is, but because of how much better
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: he is than everybody else. You have, like no disrespect
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to any of the other guys. And Evan Ingram's injured,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Like he pulled a hammy right before the game against
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: the Browns, so that's obviously a huge bummer for their
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: passing attack. But Christian Kirk hasn't gotten it going yet
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: this year. Gabe Davis, y'all know what Gabe Davis is. Like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: He's a guy that he can get the job done.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: At times, but then he can be a little inconsistent
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: at times. And so Riyan Thomas Junior is the guy
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: from a talent standpoint in that passing offense, and they
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: need to feed him.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: They've got two.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bill's corners are cooking right now with Douglas
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and Benford, and they showed up well in Week one
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: against Harrison. I also wonder too, from a coverage perspective,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: do they roll anything Thomas's way. They are obviously very
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: familiar with Gabe Davis. They know where his strengths lie,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: where his areas of opportunity and weaknesses lie. So yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that passing game structure in terms of just what Laurence
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: can do. Man, He's just so I'm even thinking of
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: like all the great throws he makes, and then I'm
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: thinking back to this Browns game where he just like
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: airmails it on like a ten yard out and just like, man, like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: what is just the I always say the yin and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the yang of Josh Allen because like the craziness that
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: makes him do amazing things is also the craziness that
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: makes him do really stupid things. And then Lawrence sometimes
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: is the same, like he pulls not the craziness. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: he just pulls out some jaw dropping amazing plays and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: then the next time, like he can't complete like a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: simple pass, and you're just like, just yeah, just be normal,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like what is going on? Just tap into like lean
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: into that. Yeah, just be normal, like be the super
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: or just be the super sayan that you're capable of being.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: He makes these throws and then the next day he
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: goes from being like Goku to Crillon and like the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: blink of an eye, it drives me nuts.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: A lot of the time it is early when these
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: things aren't going well, and then like he settles in
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: at some point and then it's just like, is there
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: an enough time for them to win the game?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It's kind yeah, kind of like the Cleveland game, like
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: things start out slow and things are ugly, and then
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, here they go and he scrambles for
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: like thirty yards and he's making these throws and it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, is is it too late in the game?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Are they down by too much? And again that factors
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: into my point there too, of like when he starts
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: on quirking these throws, is it twenty seven to six?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Is it fourteen? To ten, like how close is it
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and how much does it matter? Yeah, it's it's uh yeah,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it's wild to see that, all right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Weirdly, they've they've started faster on the road too, so
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: that's something to keep in mind.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Oh good point.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so it's weird.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I am not overlooked like and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people in the comments are like, no,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: this will be easy, like jet, I just don't feel
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: good about it. I also never feel good about like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: any game. But there's just I don't know if it's
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the Lawrence aspects or some of the pieces I like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: or just the history of it. I just feel like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: this game is going to be a problem, and I yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: it just sticks in my brain. I Dan, I don't
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: know why, but yeah, I like I like your opener,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: like might as well, what do you got for your
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: number two?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So this one? You know.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Obviously, Khalil Shakier over the last year has become one
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: of Josh Allen's favorites. Josh Allen loves to target the
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: middle of the field. I think if Darnell Savage is
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: unable to go, that's another guy who suffered an injury
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: late last week. If he's unable to go at nickel
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Jari and Jones, the rookie out of Florida State, who
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: is very talented, very aggressive, great athlete, He's probably going
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: to be seeing a lot of Khalil Shakir one on
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: one man coverage.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: He had a really good Week one.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was covering Tyreek Hill one on one
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: on a slot fade, didn't give up an inch, but
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: then last week it was a little bit more up
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: and down mixed bag. So I think that could be
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: really interesting to see that potential matchup again. Because the
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Jaguars play a lot of man coverage, Jari and Jones,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: especially playing in the nickel, will have a lot of
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: man coverage opportunities. Khalil Shakir trying to cover him with
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen throw in the football will be a big
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: task for him.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I really, you know, going back to that Week one game,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I was, I guess maybe not surprised, but the Jazz
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: came on and played a ton of cover one against
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Miami in that Week one game, and they were creative
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: with it, like sometimes you're getting the robber from the top,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: sometimes you're getting a low hole player. I thought Savage
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: did really good coming down and processing like the high
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: lows and reading to his eyes and shifting. There was
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: one I'm thinking. I think it was on the third
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: down stop where I think Waddle clears out the middle
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and it's cover one robber and Savage comes down from
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the top and he takes that away and then he
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: reads to his eyes and Toua goes underneath the burrios.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: It's like a third and five and Savage meets him
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: right at the sticks, pops him, knocks the ball out incomplete.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Just what they did from an athleticism standpoint, Like I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: thought Campbell looked good in that game before he pulled
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: up lame in that one. Yeah, I like what they
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: do defensively, and I really like two this guy's in.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: One of my points is not too much for a spoiler.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I thought Ryan neils And coming from Atlanta was such
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a good fit for this defense based off of what
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: he did in Atlanta. No disrespect to Atlanta, but what
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: they had up front last year wasn't the most talented group,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and I thought he had so much better pieces to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: work with in Jacksonville. And I thought he was a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: good fit stylistically and schematically with the Jags d I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: still do like their defense. It sucks that they are
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: so banged up in all the injuries they have, especially
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on the back end of things, but I really do
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like their defense, and I think they can give most
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: offenses problems with the combination of athleticism and tenacity they
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: play with. But then also kind of with Nielsen at
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the helm and just how all that fits together and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: meshes into one.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you completely.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: One thing people are starting to get a little frustrated
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: about is just how much rotation there is. And you're
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: always gonna have rotation up front, but like starting linebackers
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: not playing more than eighty percent of the snaps, Like
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: people are getting.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: A little front, like you don't want Foyle Lucan off
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the field. I get it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I think Ryan Nielsen is doing a great job, though
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I agree with you the mentality he brings every.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Day, like he just he walks the walk, he talks
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the talk.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: He preaches attacking every single day like every day is
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: every day is game day for the Jaguars defense. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: you see that in practice, not that we can really
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: watch practice anymore, but like throughout training camp, they just
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: brought it so hard single day, and I think they'll
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: continue to do that. I think Ryan Nielsen is going
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: to have a coherent game plan every single week. I
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: love how he'll mix things up on third down, he'll
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: break tendencies, he'll show you things he hasn't shown you
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: in a few.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Weeks or all year. And the way he's able.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: To communicate, and christ Ra Shard, who's basically like the
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: second in command on defense and the secondary coach, the
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: way he's able to teach and communicate as well is
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: really really vital for what they've got going on. And look,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, sixteen points in Week two. They gave up
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: twenty points to the Dolphins in Week one. I think
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: the defense is moving in the right direction. But yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: it's interesting. No, Tyson Campbell, I think would be a
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: bigger issue against other teams than Buffalo. Like it worries
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: me more against Houston, Yes, then Buffalo. And no disrespect
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: to Buffalo because like Josh Allen's unbelievable and you know, Kincaid,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Shakir all these guys can play great football. But Buster
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Brown matching up against like legit number one receivers from
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: an athleticism perspective is more of an issue than what
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: the Bills present on the outside right now. In my opinion,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see that matchup. Actually, Buster Brown
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: won on one because he was playing so physical last week.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, he doesn't have great speed, but man, he
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: was bringing it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and which I thought was cool because to your point, like, Okay,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you don't have the speed and athleticism, so can you
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: lean into what you do best? And he was like, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play physical as hell and we're gonna
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: see like what happens. And yeah, I thought he played well,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: which is also I think, and I think your point
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: about the Bills wide receivers is also really great in
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: tying into you know, your second matchup piece there with Jones,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: because I do think like, if there is a receiver
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to worry about right now, it is Kohalil Shakir. And yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's a fair or an unfair comparison.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Like you look at the Texans are loaded at wide receiver.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of Bills fans still think of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you know, Okay, Stefan Diggs is the story there. Maybe
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know Tank Dell because he's really small but good.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Nico Collins is like a legit top eight wide receiver
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: in the league. And there's you. If you wanted to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: push and make a case and say that he's higher,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't hold that against you. I've done so many
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: tweets breaking down aspects of his game from last year
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: in the Texans offense, and if you go by any
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: advanced metric like EPA yards per route run EPA per target,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: like he's top five and top three for a ton
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of them. He had a crazy good year. And yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I think I don't think the Bills are a team
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: right now that they're not going to stress you outside
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: with the wide receivers unless they're taking Dalton Kincaid and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: you know they're doing a three by one and using
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: him as like a quasi X receiver, And then you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: have to be like, oh, okay, we are we matching
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: with our our with one of our corners. Are we
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: doing the safety of the linebacker thing? But if it's
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: just straight up wide receiver on wide receiver, and I
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: don't think the Bills room is bad. But you can
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: get away against Keyon Coleman right now and Matt Collins
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: right now with Buster Brown, especially with his game and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: how physical he is. Hollins wants to win with physicality.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Coleman wants to win with physicality, so does Brown. So
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a like for like where it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: just like, Okay, let's see who can beat the hell
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: out of the how to the other one and get
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the win. But if you're coming inside exactly your point,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: then the conversation shifts to Kincaid and it shifts to
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: secure a little bit. I think that's where they're most deadly,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: especially when you pair that with what the Bills have
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: done formationally and personnel wise in terms of their twelve
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: and eleven personnel groupings, where it's like, are we gonna run?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Are we going to pass? We can do either out
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of these personnel groupings. We can go spread, we can
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: go conne out of either of these personnel groupings, like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: pick your poison. What do you want to do? You
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: got to cover for everything.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's very well said and a really good point.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And it also this ties in well with my second point.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I was surprised seeing these numbers that I'm about to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: rattle off. So my second point is how much the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Jags defense can generate pressure and mitigate yards after catch,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: so these and these numbers called me by surprise. So
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: per Next Gen Stats, the Jags defense has a twenty
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: five point six pressure rate, which is twenty ninth on
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the season. The Bills have the fourth lowest pressure rate
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: allowed at twenty four percent and when it's which is good,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: especially considering their middle of the road with time to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: throw at two point seven nine seconds, so it's not
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: like they're just running out a ton of quick game
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and that's why it's like that. And then the Jags
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: have a twenty one point eight blitz percentage, which is
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: towards the bottom of the league. I thought it would
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: be a little higher with Nielsen, although I know he
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: does mix in like some sims and some creepers. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I thought we'd see more five man pressures. We haven't
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: thus far. Maybe he'll bust it out. But the yards
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: after catch was huge. The Jags have allowed three hundred
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: and twenty nine yards after catch, which is the most
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: in the league. Granted a bunch of that is come
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: in on that Tyreek Hill eighty yard touchdown. And then
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the Bills, who have talked about yards after catch honestly
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: for like the last like three years, season after season
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: they're sixteenth right now in yards after catch. So I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: wonder between these two things, right, the Jags aren't generating
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: a ton of pressure. The Bills are really good at
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: mitigating pressure. The Jags are letting out a ton of
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: yards after catch. The Bills are kind of mad at
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: yards after catch. I wonder which one of these is
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the unstoppable force versus the immovable object type of thing
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: which one gives, does neither give? What do we see
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: schematically from it, especially with what we've seen from the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Jags these first couple of weeks, with the physicality they present,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the coverages they played on the back end, the injuries
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: that they have on the back end, like you've talked about,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and really to the defense as a whole. Coupled with
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that rotation, I think that's where that conversation starts for
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: me defensively, and then obviously factors into your Jones piece
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I do think that's fascinating too, because, like you mentioned
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: a lot of the yak Is, Tyreek Hill and and
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: the Dolphins in general, they were running so many screens. Yeah,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: and the way the Jaguars were playing defense man dea
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: man coverage, the screens were working, and they're gonna work
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: against most teams that play the way that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I think I was thinking of one too like that
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: early on. I think it was like literally the first
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: series of the game Jags Dolphins, it's like third and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: long and it's like a little screen to Echan and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: he runs for like thirty or forty yards up the sidelines.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So that influences as well. Yeah, fairpoint, fairpoint.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I look at that for sure.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: So I don't know that they're gonna be this team
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: that gives up a ton of yak all year. It'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: be interesting to see that in this game because one
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: of my next point is actually it ties into that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: But then also the pressure two.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: It was just getting the ball out on these screens
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: so quickly, you're just not gonna get pressure. You're not
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: gonna get pressure against those types of place And I
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: think the Bills playing more shell, more zone coverage than
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars were in Week one against the Dolphins was
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: probably a smarter play than what.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars were doing.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: The Jaguars, it worked for three quarters, but then as
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: soon as it stopped working, it really stopped working, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: they were a little bit bend.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: But don't break.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Even in the first three quarters because they were denying points,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: they were denying touchdowns, but they were still giving up
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: the yardage on the screens in the short plays. But yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: I think that it's interesting for sure to see if
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars can get pressure in this one because the
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Bills have been so good in past pro and Josh
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Allen's obviously unbelievable at playmaking, regardless of it's with his
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: legs or you know, rolling out of the pocket and
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: finding somebody down the field. But this does play under
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: the act. Thing Andre Cisco and Antonio Johnson and the
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Jaguars two starting safeties they're tackling in space has.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Been horrendous and you didn't really expect that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Andre Cisco right now he has a thirty percent missed
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: tackle rate. Antonio Johnson's at twenty eight point six.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Damn that's crazy. Hiphe both crazy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: And you've seen it, and it's negatively impacted the game
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: for the Jaguars defensively. And of course, again you can
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: sit here and say, well, the Jags haven't giving up
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of points defensively, It's true, but if you
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: continue to do that, and if you do that against
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. That could be a
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: real problem.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's super fair. And it like that whole that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: whole piece, the mistackle piece, the yards after catch, even
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the pressure piece. I find it so interesting this one
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: because executive there's been like these situational or game script
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: elements that have affected both. Right, Miami's sitting there right
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: now with the second lowest time to throw in the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: league of two point four to four seconds. That includes
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson playing this week so two ago in Week two,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: so TWOA went out and they were still doing the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: same thing, quick passes, getting it out. And then the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Bills only have forty two pass attempts on the year
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, So so much of it for me
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: is like, Okay, is the low pressure rate for the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Bills because they haven't they don't have a ton of
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: sample size, or is the line really this good? And
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: then for the Jags, it's like, okay, are they not
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: generating pressure or is it because the Dolphins get the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: ball out quickly? Because I also think to your point
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the tape, there's some really good pressure tape in Week
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: one against Miami with the games they were playing up
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: front and some of the wrecking, the wreckage that they're
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: causing upfront on that defensive line for the Jags. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: then yeah, that mistackle piece, that's a great call out
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: with the safeties. And I wonder how much the Bills
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: can stress that element of the Jags in general, because again,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: even we've seen it. I alluded to it every offseason
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: for the past three years. The conversation Allen says it,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator say it was Dorsey last year, it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Brady this year. So much of the conversation is yards
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: after catch, yards after catch. Josh Allen talks about putting
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the ball in the right spot so as receivers don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: have to break their gate and maintain stride and get
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: up field right after. And then a lot of it
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: was okay, but like Stefan Diggs is really kind of
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: just catching routes and getting hit right away because those
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: are the type of routes that he runs when Diggs
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was here. And then it's like, okay, get somebody else.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Change that differently now, and Shakier gets yards after catch,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and it also gets yards after contact and all of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: these pieces, and with what we've seen thus far through
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the first two games. In that regard for the Jags
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: defense and the Bills offense, I wonder how much of
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: it is opponent driven and more circumstantial versus this is
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: who they are, this is who they're gonna because even
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the mistackle stuff for the Jag safeties, right, I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: about like, okay, like something that's gonna be influenced by
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: who you're playing in Week one and like it's hard
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to tackle the Dolphins do space because they're so fast.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, okay, as we go along the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: rest of the year, do those numbers drop a little bit?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And how much of it is of what we're seeing
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: in that regard from my point and from where you
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: just said there, how much of it is driven by
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: circumstantial opponent and game script versus this is who these
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: teams actually are and this will continue as we go forward.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. And I.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Everybody has a job to do right analysis wise, you know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: whether they're covering a specific team or covering the league
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: at large.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And everybody's trying to figure it out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Right now, like what is going on around the NFL
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: and what's real and what's not real? And I honestly,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: just think after two weeks, you don't know, and we
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: want to make these sweeping.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: You know, sweeping.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Arguments, statements and concrete points, and yeah, it's been too much.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: It's difficult to do it. It's difficult to do it at
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: this point. Like, so the Saints are going to the
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, right, Okay, it's gonna be Saints and Vikings
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship. Yeah, Chargers are probably gonna win
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: the AFC.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. It's just it's too early. That's fair.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: And that's why I like seeing. It's funny so many
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: like I've been tweeting out like stats in different pieces,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and I keep saying, like the sample size is small
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: or like granted it's only been two weeks or little
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: things like that, because I don't want it to get
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: out there. Of like like von Miller right now, he's
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: amongst like one hundred and nine qualifying edges. He alluded
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to him earlier in one of your points with him
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: looking like he's, you know, kind of back to himself
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: through one hundred and nine qualifying edges. Right now, he's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: six in pastors productivity, He's ninth in win rate. And
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: he's sixth in hurries and so I'm very like, I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: think he looks good. He looks much better than he
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: did last year. He looks like he's rounding back into form.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And I keep throwing that cave on him there because
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to be like boom Von's back.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: He's back and he's ready, because I don't know what
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: if by week seven he falls off, like it's been
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: two weeks. We need to pump the brakes on everything.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Who you know this like, who teams are in September
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: is not who they are in November and December. The
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: first month is not indicative of who you are as
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: a team. It takes a while for teams to find
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: themselves and really establish what's gonna work, who's gonna work,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and how it all pieces together. And yeah, that's why,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like I do think it's interesting seeing where the Jags
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: are in those metrics now and where the bills are
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and do we see any give and take and how
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: much is just due to sample size and how low
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it's how little we have right now versus you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: are we am I dming you or your DM at
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: me in like week fifteen and it's like, man, the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Jags have allowed like historically are large yards after catch
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: this year and it like it continues or was it
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: really just like no, it's just because Hill and wabble
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in week one, and you know that's it. Real quick
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: we do. Tying into that pressure conversation, We've got a
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: super chat from Carl, Tom and Carl appreciate you. You're here
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: pretty much every single week. Thank you for being here,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the super chat. And he's got a
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: good question, so he says, can Dion Dawkins and Spencer
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Brown contain Josh Heines Alan. I'll let you lead off
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: with this, Jordan. I think the world of Josh Heines Alan.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: It's so weird to me to go with the name
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: adjustment now I keep now. It's like when Darius Leonard
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: switched to Shaquille Leonard. I couldn't get it right for forever.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I think Alan is nasty, I really, And I know
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Walker has been much maligned necessarily hasn't lived up to
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the first round or the first overall pick billing, but
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: there's something about just his speed to power. I'm gonna
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: run through a dude's face play style that I like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and I think it pairs well in conjunction with Alan
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: is a true number one and Walker being more of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: a true number two. But for this question, Deon Dawkins
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Spencer Brown. Brown had a much better year last year
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: than he has at any point in his career. He
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: got rewarded with that contract extension recently. Dawkins got a
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: contract extension this offseason. People talk about him in that
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: kind of top ten left tackle conversation. What do you
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: think about heinz Allen versus both of these guys in
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: this matchup?
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it'll be against Dion Dawkins a
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: lot more. He lines up on the defensive right side,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: offensive left side a lot more than the other other
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: way around. You know, that's a good matchup. Deon Dawkins
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: is a very very good tackle in this league. I
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: think he's proven that over the last several years. I
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: don't know that there is more than a couple handful
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: of tackles that just one on one can contain Josh
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: heinz Allen all day. Every time you see him get
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: not have a big game, it's pretty much against a
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: team that's like Miami, where they're just getting the ball
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: out fast as hell, or a team that is willing
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: to double team consistently, which is another thing the Dolphins
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: did was was give extra help against Josh Heines Allen.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And that was another interesting schematic thing because like the
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Jaguars decided to just rush three so many times against
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: the Dolphins, and it worked when the Dolphins were trying
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: to go deep usually, which is funny because every time
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: they rushed three last year under Mike Caldwell it ended
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: up being a disaster. So you're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: oh okay, oh wow, ok. Yeah, So it's just kind
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: of funny the way things cycle and change. But yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: I would be surprised if if they're doing traditional dropback stuff,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: you know, not getting the ball out super quickly and
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: not helping a little bit. I'd be surprised if Josh Hallen,
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Josh Heines Allen is not able to impact the game
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: from a past rush perspective.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at your point, I just think he's he's such
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: a monster with the moves that he has, his combination
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: of size and athleticism and length, but then plan and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: moves and how he pairs it all together and even
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: you know, we talked about it multiple points at this time,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: what Miami does getting the ball out quickly even with
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: that game one, and how much running Cleveland does. He's
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: sitting there right now. He's tied for tenth in total
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: pressures right now. His efficiency metrics aren't great because you
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: know he's not going to generate pressures when Miami's getting
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: the ball out in two and a half seconds. But
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you see the ability on tape, and yeah, I just
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I think those dudes like that who have that level
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of talent, not that Dawkins doesn't. And I'm in locks
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: up with you too, like Alan, I mean, you'll know
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: better than because you watch way more Jags tape than
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I do. But Allen is usually on the offense left,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: defense is right. So I do think it'll be Allen
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: versus Dawkins and then Walker versus Brown, which Walker versus
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Brown I think is also a fun matchup because yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Walker is just speed and athleticism and his main thing
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: is speed to power. I'm gonna run through your face.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Spencer Brown is improved from a technical perspective. He's got
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: a really nice snatch trap. He can still be got
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: from an anchor perspective, like you can catch him at
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the right time, I'm as you can anyone, but I
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: think him more than others, and you can drive him back.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm I think that Alan Dawkins matchup is interesting. From
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: good on good, I kind of lean to that other
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: side of Walker and Brown because I think Walker can
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: have some success just going speed to power and trying
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to cave Spencer Brown's chest in and driving him back
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: into Josh Allen, which also I think works for, you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: trying to compress the pocket and mitigate that escapability that
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Alan has. I think both sides are really interesting in
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: terms of what the matchup can bring, just given how
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Alan and Walker's skill sets match up with Dawkins and Brown.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I think Dawkins and Alan is very much like good
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: on good and you're just whoever wins one, you tip
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: your cap and like kind of go about your business.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: But I do think Walker could give Brown some problems
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: on the other side, and I'm really interested to see
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: if he does. I feel like Walker's just a huge
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like every time he gets
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a sack, everybody's like, nope, it was a coverage sack,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: or Nope, this guy Alan did something and Walker kind
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: of fell into it. And I do under stand it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: But then like he's on tape, Like I know, he's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: only speed to power, but he's running through dudes at times,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and it's really fun to like watch, and so I
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: wonder if he can get Brown a little bit in
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: this one too. I think both matchups are fun on
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the either side.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree completely, And I also think to your
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: point of trying to contain Alan, I do think Ryan
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Nielsen is going to coach them defensive line wise to
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: play contained, to not give up those gaps, to not
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: give up those rushing lanes to Josh Allen this week,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: You have to you absolutely have to your Cisco and
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Johnson point, was that off the cover? Was that your
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: number three?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: That was number three for me?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, I like that, and that works perfectly because my
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: three ties into something you just said. So my third
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: point is ken the Jags force the Bills to lean
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: heavily into the pass, and I literally mean like the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: pass only so Allen through two games, only forty two
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: attempts through those two games I mentioned earlier, the run
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: game has mattered a lot for this Bills team. It
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: ties in, it ties in completely with their schematic identity
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: this year, which is I think tapping into more of
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: what the Rams were last year and what the Lions
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: were last year, where you have these bigger, bodied wide
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: receivers or capable and willing blocking wide receivers, and you
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: can be in eleven or be in twelve and just
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: be able to access more of the menu. The Bills
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: eleven and twelve personnel groupings are kind of mirror images
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of one another in terms of you have this combination
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: of size, athleticism, pass catching, and run blocking all in one.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Especially when you get guys like Matt Collins and Keyon
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Coleman involved, you can access more than menu without having
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: to turn the page. So the run game matters a lot.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: It's beneffective and for the Bills or any team really,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: but especially the Bills, if a team can remain two dimensional,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: they're so hard to be And if you add in
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the third dimension of Josh Allen's legs, it's even harder
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: for a defense to stop the Bills offense. I want
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to see if and this ties into, you know, the
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: pocket compression aspect. We talked about what you kind of
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: envisioned for Nielsen in this week. Can the Jags make
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Buffalo win through the air and can they truly test
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the separation ability of the Bills wide receivers playing into
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that is obviously you know, can they generate pressure? Can
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: they do it with four? Do they have the blitz?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And I know it's a defensive different defensive coordinator in
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the last year, and a different Bills offensive coordinator than
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: last year, but the Jags were so successful last year
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: attacking the Bills protections, especially on third down. They were
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: baiting them like, hey, we're gonna bring the blitz from
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: here because we know you're gonna throw hot to that
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: guy and then we're bringing this corner up and we're
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: gonna make the stop. Like they were so good. Their
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: five man pressures were great. They're they're timing of when
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: they blitzed was great. They ran some sims and some
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: creepers that were really well timed, and they were just
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: gaming up and scheming up the Bills protections and it
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: forced the Bill's hand a lot in that game. And again,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: different coordinator for the Jags, different coordinator for the Bills now.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: But I wonder how much of that do we see again,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: because we really haven't seen a team test the Bills
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like that this year. But again we're only two games in.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: It's a very small sample size. But the run game
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was very successful for the Bills against Miami, so they
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: leaned into that. Week one was a big Josh Allen
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: week against the Cardinals, but it wasn't a huge passing
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: attack week. He only threw the ball twenty three times.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: He did a lot of damage with his legs, scrambling,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: making plays offscript. The run game opened things up schematically
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: for the pass as well. So I want to see,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: and this is going to be a thing for me,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: like literally every single week, who is the first team
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that can force the Bills to be like, no, we
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: want Josh Allen to throw it thirty five times, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: we're going to live that way and see can he
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: throw it thirty five times and stay efficient and stay
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: with his good decision making or do we see a
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: little more of that yin come out between the yin
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and yang and Josh Allens is he started forcing the
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: ball little, but can we force him into an interception
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: here or into a bad decision here? And I know
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: for that might sound ridiculous to people, It's like, well,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: you want to put the ball into Josh Allen's hands more.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I know how that sounds, but you just can't beat
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the Bills the way they've been living these first two weeks.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: You cannot allow them to run the ball with the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: running backs, have play action with the pass game, have
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: the schematic advantage in the past that the run opens up,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: and then also have Josh Allen's legs from an off
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: script and by design standpoint be a factor. You can't
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: deal with all that, and it's hard to stop all
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of that. And when I look at the Jags defense,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I look at their defensive line, how they can compress
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the pocket the athletes that they have there. I think
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: it starts with being able to stop the run, and
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: then yes, can you compress the pocket pen Allen in
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and make him so if Alan's dropping back I'm making
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: this up, But if Allen's dropping back thirty five times,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: is he throwing it thirty two or is he dropping
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: back thirty five and he's able to scram for like
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: nine or ten times, Because that's then you're still dealing
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: with that third element. So how much can they force
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Allan to purely win through the air? And then this
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: ties into something we talked about earlier, and then by extension,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: you're also testing those pass catching elements for the Bills. Hey,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: key On Coleman, can you continue to separate? Hey Mac Collins,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Hey? Kurtis Samuel? How healthy are you?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Is it all? Shakir? Is it all Kincaid? You know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: kind of testing those buttons a little bit and seeing
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: who can really answer if we apply pressure there, given
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the questions that we have.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: I think that's a great point. And the Jags run
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: defense has been strong. You know, one area we haven't
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: talked about much yet. Devin Lloyd and Foyer looking are
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: playing some of the best football that they have played.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: They have been so good. Foye has been good for
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars, but Devin Lloyd's in the year three now
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: and the former first round pick Jack's traded up for
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: He's been outstanding, flying down hill, being assignment sound through
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: the first two weeks and it's small sample size, but
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: you've kind of seen this development arc coming from him
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: over the last couple of years. It looks like it's
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: finally really starting to come to fruition and they've they've
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: made it very difficult for runners. Josh Heines Allen and
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: Treyvon and Walker are both big, physical edge players that
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: know how to set the edge really well. Devon Hamilton's
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: getting back into his former form. You've got Eric Armstead
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: playing some He's still not playing a full compliment of plays.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: I think they're still trying to ease him into this thing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: But and their corners are physical against the run too,
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: So if they can stop the run and force you
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: into this passing game, that is going to be the
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: fascinating matchup there between the Jaguars defense and in the
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: Bills offense, Like you mentioned, because if joshes or if
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen, it's not the Josh Allen.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I hate this every time the Bills play the Jags,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and like, even though he changed his name now, it's
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: still hard. It's so annoying.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: But if Josh Allen has one or two of those,
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: you know, while Josh Allen plays where he just kind
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: of flies off the cuff and the Jaguars are able
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: to capitalize, does that change the ball game?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's always I think that's it's risky for
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: any defense. But I really do think like the way
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: to try and beat this iteration of the Bills offense
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: because of the prevalence and the effectiveness of the run game.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And I know from a statistical standpoint right now, and
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: even from an advanced metrics standpoint, the run game isn't
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: great for the Bills. It was last year, it was
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: one of the best, especially when you're talking about running
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: back carries. But this year the conversation is so much
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: more schematic for what it opens up for the rest
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: of the offense. And it makes me think the way
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to try and beat the Bills is he had to
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: force Josh Allen to having one of those Josh Allen
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: games where he throws three interceptions and then it's like, okay,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: can we live that dangerously and get him to play
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: more risk than he is reward and you're just trying
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: to balance it out, right, like how much of the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: ginning yanga Josh Allen do you get? Do you get
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: the boneheaded interceptions? And how does that how what's the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: ratio of that to like mutant alien unicorn plays that
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: he makes And is that enough for you to win
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one or twenty seven to twenty like,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: is that is that enough to swing the pendulum and
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: push the tide in your favor and cause it's just
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: and again, this is true for any team if you
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: allow them to be two dimensional and win with the
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: run and be successful in the run in the past,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: it's so hard to stop anyone, and a team in
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: teams with a mobile, agile quarterback like the Bills have
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: with Allen, they're that third element again, is also prevalent.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: You just can't win like that. It's so hard to
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: stop all three of those things. But even just too
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: like game planning for a good run game and a
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: good pass game is so hard and so part of
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: me he just thinks like, all right, cool, we're gonna
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: live and die with seeing if we can force Alan
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: into some mistakes and if you can generate pressure. We
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: haven't seen it this year much, but Alan he showed
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it last year too. If you can get pressure on
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Alan early and make him kind of doubt his offensive line,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: he'll start to bail out of that pocket earlier than
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: he needs to because he'll be like, screw it, I'm
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I'm gonna go be a unicorn and try
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and make a play. And that's not always the most
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: efficient in terms of keeping you on schedule and allowing
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: your offense to continue to succeed. And I do think
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the Jags have enough from a coordinator standpoint and from
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: especially from a talent standpoint on the defensive line to
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: kind of push them into that and pressure them a
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: little bit. I would feel much better if I were
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the Jags. If I'm sitting there knowing that everybody on
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: my back end is healthy. I think that obviously plays
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: a significant role, but that's also just in the back
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: of my mind. I at some point, I think some
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: team is going to be like, you know what, and again,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: this is all easier said than done, but some team
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be like, you know what, We're gonna
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: force you to have to rely on your receivers on
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the outside, Like that's what we're gonna do, and can
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you rely on them? Can they win? And can you
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: get the ball to them? That's what we're gonna do.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: And it's for week after week. It's always gonna be
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: in my mind. I don't know if it's always gonna
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: be a matchup piece for me because that they it'll
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: vary by opponent. But again, like I just think the
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Jags could potentially do that based on their personnel and
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: what they have and how they're built.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: You know though, I don't think the Bills have much
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: to worry about unless the Jags offense can get out
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: of its own way.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: And see that's like that ties into my first point
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: there of like tying into the Trevor Lawrence throw piece.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: How much does that does that matter? Right? Because if
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: all of this conversation, I think the much more interesting
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: battle is the Jags defense versus the Bills offense because
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: your point there, For me, the Jags offense just seems
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: like it's just like, I don't know, just won't get
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: out of its own way. Like I said, like it
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: just feels disjointed, like they're just calling plays to call plays.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: It's not like we're called this because it's gonna set
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: this up later and we're building this to do. You
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: know what if it feels like it feels like the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson story arc in Philly where things started out nice.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: It's like, wow, look at how good they are schematically
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: and Carson Wentz and I think Lawrence is better than once,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: but then things just seem to kind of fall apart
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: from a design stamp or not even necessarily a design standpoint,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: but a you know some some but play calling standpoint
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: and layering. And when you're calling stuff again the you're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: struggling in past pro all friggin day, and you go
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: shotgun and spread on your own too, and you call
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: it out and up when you haven't been able to protect.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: And again, yeah, it technically the out and up work
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior was open, but like, why are you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: doing that? You have a Super Bowl like, you know football,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, what do you And also nobody was there
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: to like check anyone, like I don't think we should
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: do this right now where we can't protect, why are we? Yeah,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: just and so much that conversation that we're having with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: the Jags defensive Bill's offense exactly like you said, it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: is so beautifully well put. It's move unless the Jags
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: offense can can't get out of their own way, like
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: if they continue to kind of just stub their own
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: toe and shoot themselves in the foot, and then it's moved.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: And they looked like the offense that you wanted them
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: to be for the first three quarters in Miami mm hmm.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: And then they fell apart and.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: They showed flashes of it in the second half last week,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: but again second half you also saw the crazy decision
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: to go spread and try to hit a long, developing
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: route down the field from your own goal line.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: So man, it's just I was really but like week one,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I was full into like I'm giving the Jags a pass,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Like if ETN scores there, it's twenty four to seven
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: because literally the next play after that is the deep
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: shot to hill that makes it seventeen fourteen. And you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: every game, I forget who was the first person to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: set up, but everybody says it now like every football
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: games are decided by like three to six plays or
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: sometimes people say like two to four. And I was like,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: that is one that changed it. And the next play
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: was a touchdown. There's your two yea of like the four.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: They changed that game. So I gave the Jags a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: pass and then I was like, man, the Browns offense
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: is looking terrible. The jack should be able to do enough,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and just with how they played it knocked out my
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: confidence in them a little bit. Yeah, I'm right there
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: with you. For those quarters against Miami, I was like okay, okay,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, no, it's not. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: just disappointing. Disappointing, all right, Jordan, before we send you anyway,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: any thoughts, anything left on this game, anything that you
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: got in the holster that you want to say and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: get out and if not, if you do, that's cool.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: If not, feel free to again tell everybody who you are,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: where they can find you, at, what you do and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: all that good stuff.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: No, I think it's a fascinating game. The Jags, for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: whatever reason the last two years have played better away
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: from Jacksonville, and it's so bizarre. It's like your hometown
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: fans should give you some energy. But we'll see. And
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: like you mentioned, weirdly, Doug Peterson hasn't lost to the Bills,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Sean McDermott, Josh Allen struggled against the Jaguars.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. But I do think that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: This has a chance to be a very fun football
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: game to watch and analyze. If the Jaguars come correct,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: which is a big, big if, it should be a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: very fun game. I do think offensively for the Bills,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: defensively for the Jaguars, that's going to be a nice
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: chess match. It's just if the Jaguars offense can show
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: up or not. But yeah, that's pretty much all I got.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: I thought this was a great conversation, good way to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: get this thing started. We've still got six days till
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: the game, of course, since Monday night football, kind of a.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Weird week with the late game.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I'll be doing a bunch of Jags Bills content,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: you know, Keys to Victory for the Jaguars matchups, to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: watch bold predictions, full game view, all that fun stuff
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: in the coming days, and also talking about the Jaguars
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: rookies as I do every week, seeing how they're doing.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Go check out Brian Thomas Junior for sure, go check
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: out Brian Thomas Junior. He's a lot of fun. But yeah,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: you can find all that at the jin Jag YouTube page.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: And I'll certainly be doing a week three power rankings
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: as well on Rogue Football. You can check that out
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: see where the Bills land. But yeah, I really appreciate
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: you having me on. A big fan of Cover, one
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: big fan of your show, and so it's an honor
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: to be on here and can't wait for this football game.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. I'm part of me also just hopes
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: that we get I don't know, like a shootout, and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I just want to see Lawrence and Allen dueling and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: both like playing up to who and what they can be.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there is some really fun potential for this one.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: And yeah, this was a great conversation. I appreciate you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: taking the time. I sincerely enjoyed it. I feel like
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: we could go for another like hour or longer and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: just talking about like all the details and niche aspects.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: And for those I say this every time I have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: a guest on the show, if if you're a football
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: fan in general, you should be staying up on every team.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: And even if you're just a Bills fan, you need
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: to be paying attention to every other team because every
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: other team is your enemy and you need to know
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: what they're doing and how they're doing it. And Jordan
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: is an absolute tremendous source for everything Jags, but, like
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: like you mentioned throughout this episode, with everything that he's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: doing with rogue football and draft stuff and league wide
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: things in general, an absolute great source for football knowledge.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Find him at Jordan de Lugo on Twitter. That's at
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: j O r d A n D E l u
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  Speaker 2: g o is on He's one hundred percent worth the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: follow and worth your time and investment. Jordan, again, I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: appreciate you joining me. You crushed it. This was awesome.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna DM you after this saying all these
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: things again and thank you. You had a great time and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you crushed it. But enjoy the rest of your Tuesday night.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I appreciate the hell out of you. And uh yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I'll see you over there in the Twitter verse.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we'll talk soon. And good luck this week.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Man, Thanks maning you too. Thanksy tremendous guest, mister Jordan
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: de Lugo. That was really fun conversation and I sincerely
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: meant it. Go give Jordan to follow. He's worth it.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Like I said, for those who weren't here earlier. He
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: and I started following each other back during draft season.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Not this year, but in twenty twenty three. He was
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: breaking down some prospects or I was breaking down somebody.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: We started talking about prospects and position groups and rankings
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: and big boards and all that stuff. And he's a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: really good dude. I was pumped to have this conversation
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: with him. We got a little taste of what he does,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: but he knows what he knows what he's talking about
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: from a football perspective and from especially from a Jack's perspective,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: so absolutely tremendous. Guess was pumped to have him on
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: this episode. We're going to dive into some things on
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the back end here. Yeah, a good call here from
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Joe who said Jordan's camera was streaming in sixteen K.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely Chris video. It's the first thing I noticed when
• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I love his background setup and just how it looks.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I love the lighting. But yeah, that camera, Like I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: like my setup and the camera that I have, But
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: when I get somebody with a camp like that, I'm
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh man, like he's he's playing in
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: the big leagues with that. Yeah, his camera was beautifully
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: crisp u with what his setup was for. For those
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of you here in the live chat, we're still going
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: to power on for a little bit more. What I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: want to do now, Any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: you folks have on your mind when it comes to
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Bill's jags, when it comes to anything we've seen through
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: the first two weeks of the season, Bill's related NFL
• 1:07:25
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• 1:07:28
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• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:36
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• 1:07:57
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• 1:07:59
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• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:03
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• 1:08:10
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• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Grab this person from Luke who says, what weapon do
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: you think proves the most difficult? Who's the most difficulty
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: for the Jaguar secondary? Good question, because you said the secondary,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with the pass. I'm going to say,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid, I know the athleticism, the Jags have at linebacker.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I just think Dalton Kinkaid is such a chess piece
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: for me, It's really going to come down to Kincaid
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: and then to Jordan's point earlier, Kolio Shakir and whether
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: or not Jones can cover him. I think, just with
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: how the Bills offense is built schematically and formationally, how
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: they're able to attack is really in between the numbers
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: with Shakir and Kinkaid tying that in with the pass game,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: whether you want to score with the run game, whether
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: you want to go spread or whether you want to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: go condense, whether you work in play action, whether you
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: work in the RPOs. And I think Shakiir presents some
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: good mismatch capability given where the Jags secondary is and
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: how healthy they are or not. And then Kinkaid, I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: just think is more tight end in general than Kinkaid specific.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I think tight ends are still the greatest mismatch creator
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: on an offense. Teams with a true dual threat tight
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: end can do so much. You look at what the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Chiefs did with Kelsey, and part of that dual threat nature,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: right is you just have to be serviceable as a blocker.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be George Kittle where you're up here,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: plus as a pass catcher and plus as a run blocker.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: You just have to be serviceable. You have to be
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: willing and do enough. Kinkaid is in that conversation, and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: when you look at the teams that have these pass catching,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: dual threat tight ends, it opens up so much of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: their offense. And the Bills have two of those guys.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, my answer would be Kincaid and then Shakir
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: as well. M Nikki saying, I know Gabe is pretty
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: banged up. He dislocated his shoulder and I guess he
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: had a limp. Yeah, the Jags are hurting between the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Miami game and the Browns game, which is also another
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: unfortunate piece. Carl says, what do you know about kickers
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: andres Carlson and Cade York. I don't know much about Carlson,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: and if I am correct, I believe Cad.
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  Speaker 1: York is.
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  Speaker 2: The kicker that was playing for Bum Bum Bum. Yeah,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: that's I thought the Browns took him early. He's the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: one I was confused my kickers, But yeah, the Browns
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: took him in round four in twenty twenty two, and
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: he's been a Journeyman, Brown's in twenty twenty two, Titans
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: and Giants in twenty twenty three, Brown's again in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, and the Commanders in twenty twenty four. The
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Titans and the second Brown stint were either offseason and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: or practice squad memberships only. What I've my concern is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: less with who the kickers are specifically, and more so
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: that they just brought in kickers. And I know that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Tyler bass miss in Miami was ugly. It was not tipped,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: that was just a straight up shank and it was horrible.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Just trying out kickers in general I find worrisome because
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: that means they're actually going through with it, and the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: fact that it was reported. I think it also is
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: a bit not great because I think part of Tyler
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Bass's struggles come from confidence, and you're not helping his
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: confidence necessarily by making it known that you're trying out
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: other kickers. So I think just the action of trying
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: out kickers is more important than who the kickers actually are.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: But if you're a kicker right now at this point
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: and you're a free agent and you're hitting tryouts, it's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: probably not a good sign. I know, dudes like Robbie
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Gold have been money for teams, you know, with what
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: he did with the Bears and Niners. I remember the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: big thing with the Bears. I think he was like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: working for doing construction. He was like doing. He was
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: laying shingle and doing like roofing jobs, and then the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Bears called him and he ended up becoming this sweet kicker.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: So you can get diamonds in the rough in positions
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: in general, but especially a kicker. But my thought here
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: is less about the individual kickers and more about the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: process itself and the actual action of trying trying them
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: out last. You had a similar question you and Karl
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: arn Locks up with your thoughts. There another question of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Carl saying, do you think there's a chance for Aron
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Johnson playing against the Jags where we see him in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: week four, week five? I truly don't know. I have
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: to monitor his injury status. I'm not counting on him
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: anytime soon. And maybe it's just the pessimist that's in me,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: But when he hurt his arm in week one and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: they were immediately doing like grip strength stuff with him
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: on the side and he was shaking it out, that
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: makes me worry that makes me think it's something bone
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: related and something that isn't gonna heal right away.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't put him on the IR which means it's
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: possible that he can return at any point. But I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: just think with where where the Jags offense is right now,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I don't want to sell anybody short. And like I mentioned,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I am not overlooking this matchup. I'm not putting Taron
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Johnson back in for this game. I am letting him
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: say and do whatever he wants until he's like, nope,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I'm completely paying free, I have grip strength in my hand.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I'm all good, send me out there, do whatever. Because
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: he plays a position where he's constantly in the fire
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: zone when it comes to being hit and having to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: hit people and contact, Like, there's not a play where
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: he's not getting hit or hitting someone, so you need
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: him at one hundred percent. I'm not bringing him back
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: until he gets to that spot. I don't know when
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: that will be, so I don't think he plays against
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the Jag Well. We could see him down the road,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: especially with how again the schedule starts to ramp up
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: with Houston and not necessarily disorder, but Houston and Baltimore
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: and the Jets and that schedule going forward, so you
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: could potentially see him in the coming weeks, But just
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: him having to worry about that grip strength makes me
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: think it's something that's a little more severe than just
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: a one or two week thing. Good gosh question here,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: with more time having passed and hopefully him getting healthier
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: within that time, this is a good question. Do you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: think more snaps and creative youse of Curtis Samuel could
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: show up in this game? I have the exact same question.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know how healthy he is toe injuries. Foot
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: injuries in general are hard to heal, especially the type
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: of toe injury that he had. You really can't rest
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: it unless you don't do anything, So just by playing,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: you're not allowing yourself to really heal. I don't know
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: if he's ever really going to be one hundred percent
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: or fully effective based on him continuing to play and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: getting some symbols of a workload. I have this exact question.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: So I think I brought this question up because I think, well,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: one because he asked, But two, I think it's funny
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: because I have this exact thought, like I'm hoping, okay,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: his snapshare hasn't been crazy. The workload and usage hasn't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: been crazy. When do we start to see more snaps
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: and more use Because he was one of the biggest
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: chess pieces for me in training camp and one of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: my biggest notes and takeaways with how they were using him.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: They were constantly sending him and all different kinds of motion,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: jet motion, return motion. He was lining up in the backfield.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: They would line him up in the backfield and send
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: him out on tear motion. They were just lining him
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: up everywhere and using him as this mismatch creator and
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: using him to create horizontal leverage and being able to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: attack space. And I think that's still the vision for him.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of how healthy can he be.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: But I have the exact same question. I have the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: exact same question. Nicky says, the Jags planning cover two
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: or a lot of three and one. So far they
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: played a bunch of one, especially Week one against Miami,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: And is the other defensive end playing any good not
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Josh Heinzellen. I think Trayvon Walker is still a good dude.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I know he hasn't lived up to the number one
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: overall pick that he was a couple of seasons ago.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: But speed, power, physical, plays the run. He wants to
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: run through your chest and run through your face. He's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: not the most technical, not the biggest pass rush plan
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: type of dude, but he plays the run. He's physical,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: he's fast, he's athletic. I think he can give He
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: can test Spencer Brown's anchor a lot in this game.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: You give him a known passing down in situation and distance.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: You give him a known third and eight or third
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: and seven or whatever, and give him a wide alignment
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: and let him just play the rush angle, set line
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: game and attack through Spencer Brown's chest, and I think
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: you could potentially have a path of success if you
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: are Ravon Walker. Carl says, well, Cam, Dorian and Baling
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: continue to play at a high level, or will they
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: become a liability. I think the more balean inspector plays,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: the better he'll get. Same thing for Dorian Williams Cam Lewis.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I think he is what he is. I don't think
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Cam's going to be a liability. I don't think he's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: a plus matchup, but I don't think he's a liability
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: with what he can do against the past, with what
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: he's been able to do against the run. I think
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: he'll be fine. Dorian Man, I really think if Dorian
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: and Balen were gonna be a liability, I really thought
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: it would have happened in that Miami game, with how
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: they're able to stress you at the second level and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: everything they do to stress you horizontally. If it was
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: going to show up from a processing standpoint and from
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: a liability standpoint, it would have been against Miami. Now.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: The only caveat with that, especially if I'm playing Devil's
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Advocate here is the Bills under Sean MC do a
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: great job of understanding who in what Miami is and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: how to impact them. So maybe that history mitigated the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: liability potential for that second level. I don't think they're
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: going to be completely deficient free or liability free at
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the second level, but I think the more Specter and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Dorian continue to play, the less likely it is that
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: they are going to be a liability, because the biggest
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: thing they need is time on task and the ability
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: to develop, along with just kind of understanding the game
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit more, and we'll just see what their
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: development trajectories and timelines are at. I don't think Cam
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: is ever going to be a liability. I think out
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: of those three, Dorian and Balin have the highest chance.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: But in theory, the more they play, the less that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: should happen. You just don't want to have to play
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: that game unless you absolutely have to, and the Bills
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: have to. What off Spin says, so that Jets upgrade
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: their QB and trade for Sam Darnold or Gino Smith,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: that's a good comment. That's a that's a that's that's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: mad petty. That's mad petty. Josh comes in and says,
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  Speaker 2: what position group, do you still have question marks about
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: being either injury or play and do you think they
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: prove something this game? Hmmm, good question. I I do
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: still have questions about the threat that the receiving the
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: receivers have on this team overall, Aside from Shakir, I
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: like what Curtis Samuel does, but I don't think he's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I also don't think he's like an
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: every down, high volume snapshare type of dude, high volume
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: target guy. So I just have questions on what MATC.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Collins can truly be from an upside standpoint, and I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: have questions on what Kean Coleman can be from a
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: separation and refinement standpoint, which I don't think is crazy.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: This year for me was all about seeing for ke
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Home and at least what his timeline was looking like
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: in terms of refinement precision, starting to add more of
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: that to his game at an NFL level. Having to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: learn that on the fly in the NFL is hard.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: How much would he play into the physical and athleticism aspect,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: or how much would he be able to play into
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: more understanding leverage, having a feel for space, reading coverage,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: being able to separate in a variety of forms that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: isn't just at the catch point with size and frame
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: and athleticism. So I do still have some question marks
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: about the receiving room, and I don't think they've been tested,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: which is part of the reason why it was one
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: of my points in this game and why I still
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: have questions because the Bills been able to run the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: ball successfully, and as long as the Bills can continue
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: to run the ball successfully, we don't have to answer
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: that question about the wide receivers. So that's a position
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I have questioned about, and I still do. It's weird,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: I might talk about both sides of my mouth here.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I do have some questions A safety still, Rap and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Hamlet have been fine. They're responsible, they know what they're
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: doing from a coverage standpoint and who they want to be.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: But for me, I I just I just think because
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: they're athleticism is limited and that upside is kind of
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: limited there. I just do have some questions about that
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: spot and do we continue to see that safety grouping
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: all year? Does Mike Edwards pop in at any point?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Just call Bishop pop in at any point? So safety
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: is like a weird one because I'm comfortable with it
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: and I like it, but I also have questions about it,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: and linebacker I think is one for me as well
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: as as I answered that question earlier about potential liability,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: I just I'm just not still holistically confident in Dorian
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Williams or even specter. He's had less time on task
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: and less less snaps, but I just still want worry
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: about Dorian Williams is processing and kind of him being
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: put into a bind. I think if a team can
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: run the ball on the bills and then work in
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: play action, Dorian can get put into hell quickly because
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: of having to process the run to pass and then
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: figuring out where to go from there being manipulated or
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: misled by eye candy and presentation and window dressing. But
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: these are all minor. Like this is me really just
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: answering your question and nitpicking. I really feel fine about
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: this team in a lot of areas. I don't feel
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: great in a lot of positions, but I feel fine
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: holistically across the team, aside from having some specific like
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: individual player questions. That was a good one. Mmmm oh,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Luke says, where do you rank the defenses and totality
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: between the Dolphins, Jags, and Carts.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: I really like what the Cardinals do. They just don't
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: have the talent. I would say when everybody's healthy, the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Jags are first, then the Dolphins, then the Cardinals. Like
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: we talked about, I like some of the individual player
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: pieces the Jags have, and I like their defensive coordinator
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen and how he meshes with their personnel. I
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: think the Dolphins have some good talent on that side
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: of the ball, and I like some of the things
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: that Anthony Weaver is doing, their defensive coordinator who came
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: over from Baltimore. You just got to give him the
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: ability to kind of gel a little bit and work
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: some things. The Cardinals, I think they're really fun schematically
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: and from a creative standpoint, they just don't think they
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: have the horses, especially upfront, like their light upfront. They
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: don't have a ton of depth or impact dudes upfront,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: and I think that kind of limits their upside side
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Go Jags Dolphins cards, Adrian says, do we see more
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: mbs since the Jags like to play cover one, we
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: might We might see the ability to kind of threaten
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: the field or threaten the field vertically with mvs, which
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: we've seen it. He's gotten open a bit, Josh just
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: hasn't been able to connect with him. I do think
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: if the Jags are gonna play more Cover one, I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: think we just see more play action and motion to
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: manipulate the man coverage, and then we see Brady scheming
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: some things up. So we could see more MBS to
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: threaten vertically and win some one on ones, especially because
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: they're down on the back end in terms of health
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: and from an injury standpoint with their guys. Campbell going
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: down really sucks for them and is super unfortunate with
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: how good he is and what he is and how
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: athletic he is. But yeah, you could see some more mvs.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: In this game. Mm yeah, Nikki said, I meant the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: other tight defensive and Trayvon Walker. How has he been looking?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Is he going to be an issue? Am I crazy?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: I answered this? I talked about him speed to power,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: he can go through Spencer Brown's chest? What he is
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: playing that? Am I crazy? Am I hallucinating? Are you?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Are you trolling me? I know I answered this. I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: think I did. If I didn't tell me, or if
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: you didn't hear it, or somebody tell me. I talked
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: about Trayvon Walker with regard to Nicky's question earlier, because
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like crazy.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Where's one? Oh? I like this one from searching for Oldies?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: So far? What do you think of? Okay? So Spence
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: that way, there's another Trayvon work. Okay? So I did
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: answer that?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Cool?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm not crazy. Search of for Oldie says so far?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: What do you think of Brady's scheme? I'm loving it? No,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I said Trayvon Walker. I said Walker a bunch. I'm
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: pretty sure well I was talking about Trayvon Walker. I know,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: I said Trayvon Walker. I'm good. I'm going on the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole on this, but I can't. I can't, I can't.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: I gotta. I gotta stay, I gotta stay. Oh no, yeah,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know so far. What do you think of
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Brady's scheme. I'm loving it. I like it. I I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: think so. The Bills have moved into reducing some of
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: their formational with last year. They were one of the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: heaviest spread teams in the league last year towards top
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: of the league, second widest formational with This year, they've
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: moved towards middle of the league, which is nice to see.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I just like him providing easy buttons for Alan. That
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: opening touchdown on slither or that running back mess traffic
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: concept to cook against the Dolphins is really nice. That's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: a natural easy button. You get two motion man indicators
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: pre snap to help Alan identify the coverage. You get
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: good execution. I like him leaning into the run and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: pressing the run buttons as much as he can, varying
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: the run scheme. I like that the mid zone run
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't working against Miami, so we pivoted to tackle, wrap
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: and duo and started working in more elements there. So
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I like him understanding the run game. I like the
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: buttons He's pushing with the personnel. I'm happy with it.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: I think he based on the personnel we saw this
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: offseason and then what we saw in camp. I think
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: he's very much understanding where offensive football is moving towards
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: in today's NFL. And I think the Bills have built
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: themselves for that. And he is pressing the buttons and
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: pulling the levers that you need to press and pull
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: in order to be successful in today's NFL. So give
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: me some more play action. Keep using the motion, keep
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: preting that motion, keep leaning into the diversity in the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: run game, and using your personnel groupings and your formational
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: advantages in terms of being a to access more of
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: the menu without having to turn the page and put
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: the defense into a bind. I like having him having
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: twelve personnel and going condensed and then going three by
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: two empty and really putting defenses into hell. I think
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: it's fun. I think he's doing things good for now.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. The big test for Brady will
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: really be kind of similar what we saw for Ken Dorsey,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: where the Bill started out hot in Dorsey's first year,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: and then as the season went on, you know, you've
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: got more tape available the sample size has increased. Teams
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: were able to start to put a book together on you.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Can you adjust to that book when teams start to CounterPunch,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: do you have a counter punch for their CounterPunch? So
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: we'll see as that starts to go forward again. This
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: is now fully Joe Brady's offense. I'm not counting too
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: much of what we saw last year, although some of
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: it is relevant, and we've seen some of it play
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: out so far in these first two weeks, but small
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: sample size, and I'm excited to kind of see what
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: he is going forward and how he continues to evolve
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: and develop. Appreciate everybody in the chat answer me on
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: the Trayvon Walker thing. Okay, I want to make sure
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: I wasn't crazy crazy, think you very much, Thank you
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: very much. Ralph saying, is Morre's part of the Jags
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: protection problems? I think it comes down to the same
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: thing that you saw in Buffalo, where at times he's
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: just you know, his size, being a smaller guy. If
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: he's not good with his positioning and getting on guys early,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: he can get driven back and knocked into the QB
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I think what Jordan pointed out was
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: really interesting. Like one of Morse's strengths here with the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Bills was all the pre snap communication and front identification
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: that helped the past protection. The fact that that's a
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: struggle right now for the Jags and for Morse, I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: think is very interesting to note. So I would say
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: he's part of the Jags protection problems. I don't think
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: he's the source point. I think a lot of his
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: schematic I don't know if it's schematic because of what
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: they're being coached to do, or if it's because of
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: adjustments and communication pre snap based on fronts that they're
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: seeing in game. That's something I don't know. But it's
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: more schematic than it is individual talent. I'll say that
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: on the line. And when it comes to being a
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: schematic issue, the center is always going to be a
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: part of it. And then especially even more so again
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: more socise when he gets matched up on bigger dudes,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: they can kind of barrow him and kind of knock
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: him back into the QB a little bit. Oh, we
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: got a super chat, so I gotta stop. Thank you
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: very much Nathan for being here and for your super chat.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if did you have a question
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: to go along with this or did you want to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: just give a super chat, because if you just want
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: to give a super chat, I'm glad we take it,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: and I greatly appreciate you. Oh and then Nathan also
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: have a comment here saying the Bills defense has been strong,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Alan is showing leadership and team chemistry is solid. Cover
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: one podcast gives deep analysis of great insights. Thank you
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: very much for the kind words and for the super chat.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here, the nice words, and uh,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: the super chat. Thank you very much. All Right, I
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if you're being sarcastic or now, but yeah,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: I know I talked about him, I talked about Okay,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it, but I appreciate you. Oh
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: RJ saying I love the Joe Brady easy buttons motion
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: is so refreshing. Now we just need that play action.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I saw this from multiple people here talking about the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: play action and the play action. Yeah, that would be nice.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I would like that element. I just think it's the natural.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I always have to say this because somebody's always ready
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: to fire it out of the holester. You don't need
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: a good running game to have good play action. But
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: if you have a good running game, it makes your
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: play action game that much better. And the Bills do
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: have a good running game. So give me more play action,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: give me more bootlegs, give me Josh Allen on the move,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: move the pocket, give me some nakeds and some front
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: side stuff. I'm excited for again, what the layering and
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: building of this offense can be under Joe Brady. I
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: like a lot of the pieces. I see some more
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: questions coming in some thoughts. We're going to continue to
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: get into those. But I wanted to pull up this piece.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting conversation to have considering
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: the Bills are involved in it. I want to bring
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: this up from our partners over there at us SO
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: undefeated teams after Week two. There are nine of them,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: the Bills, the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Steelers, the Texans,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, the Vikings, the Saints, and the Buccaneers. And
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: they were talking about this earlier today in terms of
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: which one of these teams are the most surprising. I
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: kind of wanted to say Chargers, but their schedule has
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: been easy to start, so it's not too crazy. I'm
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: gonna go with the Steelers. I really thought they'd lose
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: early on to the Falcons, and the Steelers also tie
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: into that Bills aspect. I think the Steelers will start
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: to fade a little bit as the season goes along,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: But the Steelers sitting there at two to oh, and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are extremely surprising at two and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: oh as well. I know Deebo got banged up against
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Minnesota in the game, but and I know there's no
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey folks that got banged up a little bit.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: But Jefferson also got banged up. I thought would have
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: lost to San Francisco last week, and we were sitting
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: there seeing him at one and one. New Orleans isn't
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: crazy surprising to me, just because I think they're a
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: better team than they get credit for. And I don't
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: holistically believe in Dallas. But yeah, the I also really
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: like Tampa this year offensively and defensively. I like a
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: lot of these teams. I like Seattle, I like Houston,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: I like the Saints, I like the Bucks. I'm very
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: surprised at Archie says, I'm so sick of the Vikings
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: being a below average team that somehow always wins. I
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: don't know how they do it man and their defense
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: is super fun with all the blitzing and man coverage
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: they play and what they do with Martellis and all
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: the safety looks and then having green Heerd coming off
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: of one side and Dallas Turner on the other. Yet
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: it's a fun it's a fun grouping that they've got there. Yeah,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: but I didn't think they'd beat San Francisco. I thought
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: they'd be one and one at this point, and I
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: thought Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh beating Denver in week two isn't anything crazy,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: But I thought they lose week one of the Falcons.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: But the Falcons are still trying to feel themselves out
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So here looking at the undefeated teams
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: after week two, Yeah, I am surprised at Pittsburgh, and
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: I'm very surprised with Minnesota just being there too, and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: oh and beating the San Francisco forty nine ers, which
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: again was still a wild win. Sam Darnold, I don't know,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: kind of finally tapping into who he was supposed to
• 1:33:17
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• 1:33:20
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  Speaker 2: about that and given their own testimonials about how nice
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: that piece is. So again, go check out bet us
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: for all your betting and wagering needs. And I'm still
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: looking at this graphic. I just can't believe Minnesota beat
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: San Francisco and I know it's early. I also saw.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: I think they said it during the game too. I
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: think San Francisco has lost their last seven trips to Minnesota.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: Granted the teams have been different, there's not much carryover
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: in consistency, but yeah, that was a surprising one considering
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: the Niners of the Niners and Darnold and Minnesota not
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: necessarily being real. I'd also like the Vikings to lose
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: because that second round pick, I want it to be
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: as high as possible, So I'd love them to just
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: lose away so that second round pick that the Bills
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: got from Minnesota can be like a top forty or
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: a top thirty five pick. That would be really nice.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, really interesting to see where they're at at
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: this point. All right, let's continue on the conversation piece.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: We got the super from Josh. Thank you very much
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: for being here. Josh, thank you for the super chat.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: The question, oh, Josh says, what wide receiver should the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Bills trade for? Or sign Ooh, I'm gonna shoot. I'm
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: gonna shoot for the stars and say, if the Bills
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: are going to trade for a wide receiver, figure out
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: a way to make the money work. I don't care.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Go get Devontae Adams. I know it's pie in the sky,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's so hard to make that work, if it
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: can even work. I haven't even looked at his numbers
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: financially from a contract standpoint, trying to figure out how
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: it could work. But that would be that would be it, Like,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: don't try to grab I would have said Noah Brown
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: if he was still a free agent. But at this point,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm going for the stars and I'm
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: shooting for the moon. Go get DeVante Adams, Go get
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: who He's still one of the best receivers in the league.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: People just don't know about it because Vegas it is
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: not good. But maybe he doesn't want to go anywhere
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: now because they're one and one, and maybe there's some
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: hope and belief there for the Raiders. But yeah, go
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: get DeVante Adams. Go shoot for the stars and get them.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Carl saying, well, Daikwon Jones and Ed Oliver
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: versus the Jags interior oline be a key match for
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: this game. It will be, but I just expect them
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: to win it. I think highly of Ed Oliver and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Dakwon Jones. I think they can cause chaos inside. It's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: going to be important because you need to control the
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: interior of the pocket, and getting pressure on Lawrence straight
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: up the gut and quick is a nice way to
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: really affect his game. So I think it's going to
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: be a key matchup in really every week, but this
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: one too, especially considering the Jags O line struggles. Yeah,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair, Josh says, going back to your thought,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: which team on the upcoming schedule do you think challenges
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: the Bills and Josh to win through the air with
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: our wide receivers. Baltimore, I think we'll do that. I
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: know they're owing two and everybody's kind of laughing, and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: plus Bill's fans want to dunk on the mar every
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: chance they get because they're mad that he won the MVP.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: But I think Houston has the potential of Houston. I
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: think Baltimore has the potential to do that with their front.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I think they can mitigate the run. They've got athleticism
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: at the second level. I think they can force Allen
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: to live through the air. I think the Jets can
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: do a similar thing as well, if we're just talking
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: immediately with their front. I know they got gouged a
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: bit by the Niners, but I still think they have
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: the ability to be sound defensively and be tougher against
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: the run, and then with their corners on the outside,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, you can really load up the box
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: and just be like okay, try and beat Sauce and
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Carter and DJ Reid and go from there. So I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: think it starts with the Ravens heads into the Jets,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: and I think the Texans are a sneaky one as well.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: I think Derek Stingley now is showing people that when
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: he's healthy he can be in that top tier conversation
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: with Sauce and certain is the best corners in the NFL.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: So I think Houston has the ability, and then they're
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: front with what Hunter is doing and just how they
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: attack and how coordinated they are. I think they could
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: potentially that they're kind of third, I think, behind Baltimore
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: in the Jets respectively, but most would be my thoughts
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: there Cameron saying, do you think Alam can step up
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: this year if an injury happens to one of our
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: top two? I know there was optimism at camp. Yes,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: I think very highly of Christian Benford and Rasul Douglas.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to just be like, oh yeah, easily,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: and this isn't again to knock Kyrie Elam. It's more
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: because I think Christian Benford and Rasul Douglas are very good.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: I think people are starting to come around more to
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: how good Christian Benford is. I've been talking about him
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: all off season. Eric and I talked about him in
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: the film room as being one of the most under
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: the radar players of the Bills this year. Christian Benford
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: is still trending upwards. He's very good. Douglas is very good,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: So I don't think it's easy to fill their shoes
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: if an injury happens to one of them. But I
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: do have faith in Kyrie. I think he's made improvements
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: versus where he was the first couple of years. Think
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: he's playing with more confidence. I think he's playing the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: run better and you're starting to see more of that
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: athleticism and some of the physical traits and tools that
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: he has start to show up more regularly. So yes,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: if an injury happens, I think that he can step up.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want it to happen because I love the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: starting too with Benford and Douglas, but I do think
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: he can step up and mitigate some things if that
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: were to happen. I love this comment here from Josh saying,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: don't forget to drop likes everyone, Yes, yes, yes, please
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• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: It goes a long way towards telling us the track
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  Speaker 2: and trend in front of more eyes and ears. Ah yeah,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: that's the stat Nicki said at the Niners being zero
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: to eight in Minnesota. Crazy stat. Yeah, nuts nuts nuts
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: nuts bum bum Nicki saying do we extend Douglas? Something
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: changed in the defense when we got him. I thought
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: if they were going to extend him, they would have
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: done it. This past offseason they restructured his contract and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: moved some of the money into void years the next
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: couple That doesn't mean they can't resign him, but the
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: restructuring was interesting. I thought he would have been a
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: surefire extension candidate given how well he played to your point,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: like how the defense changed once he was brought in.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: He was a legitimate corner one from the moment he
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: stepped on the field, and I still think. I know
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: there were a ton of injuries in that game against
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Kansas City in the playoffs, but he was playing on
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: one leg. Even if he was out there healthy, I
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: think he would have made a big difference for a
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: lot of other guys. Benford included, Bernard included, I don't
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: even want to go down that rabbit hole, but yeah,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: I thought he would have been an extension candidate this offseason.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to get an extension. I
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: lobbied for it. Them doing the restructure and moving money
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: forward for void years instead of doing the straight up
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: extension is interesting, and then elim producing or starting to
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: show more positive signs is also interesting. I don't think
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: it's a guarantee. I would very much do it. I
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: think he's smart, he's savvy, he's a leader, he's a
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: good player. He fits what you need from the corner
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: spot in today's NFL with being able to play the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: pass but also being able to play the run and
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: set the edge and be a forced player and also
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: come up and make tackles. I'd like to see him extended,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: even if it's for one or two years, but yeah,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: I would like to see it. I just don't know
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: if it happens. Them restructuring this offseason instead of going
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: for the extension when you could have, you could have
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: had similar outcomes with the extension as you did with
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: the restructure. Them opting for the restructure instead of the extension,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. Appreciate you, Lisa G saying about
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Trey Walker. I covered it with the guest and afterwards too.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm not crazy. Drew saying
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: if we blitz Lawrence to get pressure, we could lose.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: He's good at beating the obvious looks against us. Yeah,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: I don't if you can get pressure with four and
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: play coverage behind it. I love that. Cagd saying it's
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: crazy that Benford was a sixth rounder. Absolutely, Jordan says,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: as Tyler Bass on the hot seat. Yeah, just based
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: off the fact that they brought in kickers. I guess
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: they really hated how ugly that miss was in Miami
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: last week. It's yeah, a little bit worrisome, A little
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: bit worrisome. I yeah, I don't even think you can
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: sugarcoat it if you're bringing in competition and trying out
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: other dudes at a guy's position. He's got to be
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: on the hot seat. Nikki saying they did that with
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: the Daique with Daikon Jones two with the voy years.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I don't remember if they did
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: void years with Daikon. I thought he was just a
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: straight up UFA with no void years, but there could
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: have been one. Being done so much with the void
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: years now like m MVS, I think has like four
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: two or three two hundred and fifty thousand dollars void
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: year cap hits for the next like three or four
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: years or something like that. Like he's working him into
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: everything in order to kind of kick down the road
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: while they recoup some of the DIGS money and make
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: up for the Allen money starting to kick in now.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: No Spin saying, are we gonna have to pay Allen
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: sixty plus million year now because of Dak when we
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: extend SA's restructure him next year? Man, I don't know.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: The quarterback market is so annoying, and not because guys
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: don't deserve it, but it just gets reset all the time,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: and then you have to pay them more and more,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: and I think you're gonna see, I don't know how
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: much you're gonna have to pay him a year. I
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's where it'll swing or if more
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: of the conversation shifts into guaranteed money, because it's at
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: a certain point you got to stem the bleeding a
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: little bit from how much you're paying quarterbacks if it
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: just if you're if they keep operating at this trend.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Granted the cap goes up every year, but if you
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: keep operating at this trend, of and see it's been
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: saying I'm sorry, no player deserves sixty million a year,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: I agree. And also it's hard to build a good
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: team around a guy that you have to pay that much. Granted,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: if you're paying a guy that much, quarterback is the
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: most important position arguably, and if you're paying that guy
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: that needs, you probably have that guy, so you feel good.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. The Giants paid Daniel Jones all
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: that money, and he'd not that guy. I just I
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: just don't like having to sink so much money into
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: a quarterback at some point, and I know they're worth it,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: but at some point I think that someone's got to
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: stem the bleeding in terms of how much they keep going,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: because it can't just keep being like, Okay, so and
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: so is at the market and he's getting sixty million year.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Is the next contract going to get you sixty eight
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: or sixty five and then the next one gives you
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: seventy two or seventy three. It can't just it can't
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: just keep going up and going up. Although again, like
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: I said, I know the cap will go up every year.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: At some point that the bleeding's got to stop a
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: little bit. And so that way, it's like, Okay, do
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: you go with more guaranteed money? Are you trying to
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: reduce how much money they get? So you're not going
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: with value, You're going with more guaranteed. There's got to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: be some way to stem how much they're going to
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: get from a year's perspective, a guaranteed perspective, and an
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: average annual value perspective. It's got to stop at some point.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: It's been saying I think forty five MILS should be
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: the max. Sure, I just don't think it's just gonna
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: It's just hard to build a team. Like, if you're
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: paying a quarterback that much, you have to hit on
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: draft picks. You have to be getting like plus value
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: from draft picks early because you need affordable, effective labor
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: throughout the lifespan of that contract. You I mean you
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: got to hit some vets and some guys on one year,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: you know, two point five million dollar deals. Who I'll
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: perform that contract. You need a lot of draft picks
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: to hit. You need day three guys to contribute. You
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: need to hit on your day one in a good
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: chunk of your day two guys. Yeah, it starts to
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: it really just creates a lot of problems. But again,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a good problem to have if
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: you really want to paint in that way, because that
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: means you found a franchise quarterback. But yeah, at some point,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: it just it just can't keep going where the next
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: contract is more in, the next contract is more, and
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: we keep resetting the quarterback market over and over. At
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: some point it's got to stop in some way, I think,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: or maybe the cap keeps going up and that means
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: quarterback contracts keep going up.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Bumpa bah?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: Where was Drew said? Wasn't that bass miss against Miami Block?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I didn't think it was missed live.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: And then I think someone posted something earlier today or
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: tonight showing the zooming camera angle, and I think he
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: just shanked it, so I don't think it was blocked.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I don't think it was blocked.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Cameron saying, do you think Cole is going to have
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: a red shirt? Ear Hamlin? Listen. It's not the answer
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: anybody wants to hear, because Cole Bishop is fun and athletic,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: and people love rookies and want rookies to play. But
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: Hamlin and Rapp are effective. They're responsible, they're reliable, they
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: do what McDermott asks, and they're better than they get
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: credit for. So I could see Cole Bishop just kind
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: of chilling as a backup all year and being like
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: Safety three or Safety four. Same thing with Mike Edwards.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: I know it's not sexy with Rap and Hamlin, but
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: they're effective, and I don't mean that disparagingly. They're just effective.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Drew said. The MLB instituted a salary cap, and their
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: wages are going up every year. MLB doesn't have a
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: salary cap. They have a luxury tax penalty. So if
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: you pay if your team's salary is over a certain
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: amount for a certain period of time, you basically have
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: to pay like a penalty percentage off of that. So
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a cap. You just have to be
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: willing to like eat the penalty if you're going to
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: continue to be over the luxury tax penalty. But it's
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: not really like a salary cap. There's no there's no
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: thing that says you can only the MAXI amount you
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: can pay? Is this like there is in the NFL
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: that doesn't exist in Major League Baseball. There's just the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: luxury tax penalty based in for that. And yeah, O
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Tani did I think grab the biggest contract in history?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: And the Dodgers got creative in terms of how they
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: move money out and how they're paying him, Like the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Dodgers do what every year? I don't know how the
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Dodgers continue to pay everybody with him and Mooki and
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Freeman and all in glass now and all the money
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: that they just have in dudes every year every year.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: It's wild. M M, yeah, no worries. I know. I'm
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: a I'm a Red Sox fan. And they were crushed
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: by the luxury tax for forever and now they're under
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: and they refuse to pay people. It's very weird, very weird,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: very weird, very weird. Yeah, baseball is like the last
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: major sport at least in America. Like basketball as a
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: salary cap, hockey as a salary cap, the NFL has
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: a salary cap. Major League baseball is still kind of
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: like soccer in terms of the team that have the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: most money usually just have the best teams because they
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: can buy whoever they want. Soccer gets wonky, though, depending
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: on what league you're in and what country with financial
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: fair play rules and what you have to do, that's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: a whole another beast. But yeah, major League baseball is
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: basically no salary cap, and they try to balance it
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: by having the luxury tax penalty if you pay over
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: a certain amount, but it's for a certain amount of years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what it is, but yeah, it's
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: a fair point, fair fair point. Damn spend, you're just mad,
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  Speaker 2: petty tonight, Spinn says, what team is paying rap bounties
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  Speaker 2: for taking out our players? Guy plays physical, he comes
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  Speaker 2: up and he makes hits. Yeah yeah, oh, Spinn says,
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  Speaker 2: out at just a lot, a lot of just lost
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  Speaker 2: a lot of respect points, admitting to that Sox fan
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: holding on trying not to vomit. I've said that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said that I'm a red Sox fan. I
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  Speaker 2: apologize if that you know, breaks your heart or hurts
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  Speaker 2: your heart. Hurts your heart. But yeah, Andrew says bad.
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  Speaker 2: No basketball has a cap. Basketball as a cap if
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: I googled it right now. Yeah, the NBA salary cap
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  Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four twenty five season is set
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  Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty zero point five eighty eight
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  Speaker 2: million dollars. Yeahbea as a salary cap. Maybe I'm reading
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  Speaker 2: the wrong fan, but not they have a salary cap.
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  Speaker 1: Bum bum bum.
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  Speaker 2: Cameron says, do you think Buffalo brings rookies along slowly
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  Speaker 2: because of where they draft? That's possible, right if you
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: get guys at the end of the first round, you know, nice,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: go socks, go socks. I'm I was already punting on
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  Speaker 2: this year because they didn't invest. I'm excited for the
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  Speaker 2: for the crop next year. We'll kind of see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: But Cameron, to your thought, do you think Buffalo brings
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  Speaker 2: rookies along slowly because of where they draft? That could
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  Speaker 2: play a role. I think a lot of it is
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  Speaker 2: just they have a They have a good team, so
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  Speaker 2: they don't necessarily need rookies to jump in and contribute.
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  Speaker 2: Right away. You've got like, look at I mean, Kinkaid
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: played when they needed him to. Tremaine Edmunds played when
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: they needed him to. I think it's depending at Oliver
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: played when they needed him to. Christian Benford is a
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  Speaker 2: rookie that played. I think it's all dependent upon the
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: position the person is drafted in. I think they do
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  Speaker 2: like to bring guys on along and develop, But if
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  Speaker 2: it's at a position to be and that guy's the
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: best guy, they're gonna play him. It's just that the
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  Speaker 2: Bills usually have a deep team that are able to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: kind of get things done. Carl said. The Red Sox
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  Speaker 2: lost tonight. They will not make the playoffs. No, I
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: didn't expect them even when the Red Socks were doing
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  Speaker 2: well this year. They don't have the depth. They don't
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: have the talent, they didn't have the pitching staff, they
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: didn't have the bullpen, and then they've had a ton
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: of injuries, starting with Trevor's story, but Devers has been
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: hurt all year. He's gotten significantly worse the last month.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: His shoulder is just dead. I don't know how he's
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: not even on the il. And then yeah, the bullpen
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: is injured and hurt. The pitching staff is injured and hurt,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: and neither was really great to begin with. This year
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: was always a punt year for them. They're waiting for
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Roman Anthony and Michael Mayer and all the sweet prospects
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: that they have in that farm system to come up,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: probably as early as next year, especially with Roman Anthony
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: being the number one prospect and all the baseball. They're
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: looking for those dudes to come up and take that
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: next step. So it's been cool to watch some of
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: the guys developed, like watching the season that Rafaela has
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: had and seeing some of the pieces develop a little
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: bit there. But yeah, this season was I didn't expect
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: them to make the playoffs. I've just been watching them
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: this year and be like, oh, that's fun. But I
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: didn't expect. I expected them to fade late. I didn't
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: even expect them to be in this position now. But yeah,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: they're they're not making the playoffs. It is not it
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  Speaker 2: is not happening.
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