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QUADROPHENIA — The mod, mod world of ’64, ’79 and beyond · MUBI Podcast

• 0:03
  Heads up: This episode includes adult language mentions of drug abuse and spoilers.
• 0:12
  Heads up: In the early 1960s, a young farm kid named Roger Burton was living in, let's say not the flashiest part of the UK.
• 0:20
  Heads up: In a little village actually, in the Midlands of England, called Burton Overy.
• 0:24
  Heads up: Which was bizarre because my surname is Burton also.
• 0:28
  Heads up: But it was, yeah, I mean obviously farm life and village life was very traditional, shall we say.
• 0:34
  Heads up: Nothing more than kind of barn dances and village hall hops, you know.
• 0:38
  Heads up: But then he started going to school nine miles north.
• 0:43
  Heads up: In a place that sounds like a different planet.
• 0:45
  Heads up: The city of Leicester.
• 0:47
  Heads up: And Leicester at that time was actually the richest city in Europe because of its hosiery and boot and shoe industry.
• 0:55
  Heads up: Lots of garments were made there.
• 0:57
  Heads up: Working kids who'd grown up during 15 years of war and rationing could finally indulge in stuff that was international and new.
• 1:04
  Heads up: Like they bought coveted records from the USA.
• 1:07
  Heads up: Mail ordering, you know, R&B and soul.
• 1:10
  Heads up: And they in turn started little pop-up clubs everywhere.
• 1:14
  Heads up: Clubs in cafes and the backrooms of pubs and so on.
• 1:20
  Heads up: And I used to go to these clubs.
• 1:22
  Heads up: And one night that one of them...
• 1:26
  Heads up: he got his mind blown.
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  Heads up: There was a little group of kids who were probably a little bit older than me, started to get up and dance.
• 1:33
  Heads up: And they were wearing a very distinct style, straight leg trousers, button down shirt, and, you know, those shiny mohair suits that they wore and Italian knits and wearing kind of formal clothes but like in a casual way, which was very new.
• 1:49
  Heads up: Yeah for decades, young British men basically dressed like their dads.
• 1:53
  Heads up: Even went to the same tailor.
• 1:54
  Heads up: But here were these mostly working class dudes decking themselves out like the cool cats on their R&B albums.
• 2:00
  Heads up: Or from French and Italian movies.
• 2:02
  Heads up: Austerity was over, they wanted a modern life, which meant dressing nothing like their dads.
• 2:07
  Heads up: Or even, Roger noticed, like each other.
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  Heads up: Going to a club at night in the dark, you'd spot in the distance maybe a suit with a detail on it.
• 2:16
  Heads up: You'd think, oh, he's got like six buttons on his cuff.
• 2:20
  Heads up: That's a new thing. Or the vent in his jacket might be extremely long.
• 2:24
  Heads up: Just all those little things that made it special.
• 2:28
  Heads up: It was something that really appealed to me about being an individualist.
• 2:33
  Heads up: He was officially hooked on a sharp, ever evolving look and lifestyle called "mod." So this was kind of like, you know, bright lights, big city.
• 2:46
  Heads up: I wanted to be part of it, and it affected me so much I mean, I spent every penny I had on clothing.
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  Heads up: It just like, wow, this is a whole new world that I really want to get involved with.
• 3:01
  Heads up: And he did.
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  Heads up: In fact, 20 years later, he's one of the guys they asked to suit up the cast of a mod movie called Quadrophenia.
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  Heads up: Which at a time when a lot of kids were slashing their clothes to ribbons, gave them a blueprint for rebelling in style.
• 3:27
  Heads up: I'm Rico Gagliano, welcome back to the MUBI podcast.
• 3:30
  Heads up: MUBI's the streaming service that champions great cinema.
• 3:32
  Heads up: On this show, we tell you the stories behind great cinema.
• 3:35
  Heads up: This is season five, we're calling it 'Tailor Made', because every week we're diving into a movie that captured the fashion look of an era.
• 3:42
  Heads up: And then we're figuring out what that look meant to the culture that's spawned it, the people who rocked it, and the audience who watched it on screen.
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  Heads up: And Quadrophenia meant a lot.
• 3:52
  Heads up: It is a movie about a controversial corner of the Mod world circa 1964 that entranced a certain breed of UK kid when it hit screens in 1979.
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  Heads up: We saw Quadrophenia and it gave us a template for.
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  Heads up: That is esteemed mod DJ, historian and keeper of the flame, Eddie Piller, and I talked to him Quad's director Frank Rowbottom, and many more about what made this movie a mod Bible.
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  Heads up: For everyone from working stiffs to fashion superstars.
• 4:18
  Heads up: There was a whole mod collection where I opened the show and Linda Evangelista came out on the Vespa.
• 4:24
  Heads up: In fact, thanks in part to this movie, this is one fashion I dabble in.
• 4:28
  Heads up: I will rock Fred Perry shirts with Harrington jackets, and I've known it's a look with a history, but I had no idea how complicated.
• 4:37
  Heads up: So doff your Trilby hat and loosen that thin tie as we try to rip open the seams of mod and Quadrophenia.
• 4:58
  Heads up: Last September, I visited the beachside city of Brighton on the southern edge of England.
• 5:04
  Heads up: It boasts a famous rocky beach, a ridiculous charming 125 year old pier, one of the world's oldest cinemas called the Duke of York.
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  Heads up: At the top of my sightseeing list was an alleyway off a shopping road.
• 5:19
  Heads up: And here we are, Quadrophenia Alley.
• 5:22
  Heads up: That's what people call it.
• 5:24
  Heads up: The location of Quadrophenia's most iconic scene.
• 5:27
  Heads up: Where two mods make love while a riot rages on the street outside.
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  Heads up: I definitely was not the first to visit.
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  Heads up: Just a narrow little alley.
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  Heads up: You wouldn't think much of it or think that it was anything special except that the walls are covered with graffiti from mods who have made the pilgrimage here.
• 5:44
  Heads up: Pilgrimage is the right word.
• 5:46
  Heads up: For a lot of people this is obviously a shrine.
• 5:49
  Heads up: People writing RIP to their lost friends or relatives, RIP Helen Cartwright assuming fellow mods.
• 5:56
  Heads up: Somebody here wrote "It's a way of life".
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  Heads up: With the mod target drawn underneath it.
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  Heads up: Kind of the symbol of the mod movement.
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  Heads up: The walls are covered.
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  Heads up: My guess is that they must paint this over every now and then because all of these inscriptions people have dated them, and they're mostly from like 2023.
• 6:13
  Heads up: If they didn't paint over this every now and then, it would probably just be like black with writing and graffiti.
• 6:20
  Heads up: This is how much Quadrophenia still cast a spell.
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  Heads up: For a lot of folks it's a touchstone for mod culture 35 years after its release.
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  Heads up: So I was surprised when I dug into mod history to learn the movie's story and fashions were pulled from a year some mods don't exactly celebrate.
• 6:36
  Heads up: 1964 into 65.
• 6:39
  Heads up: By which time mod is, in real terms had come to an end, really.
• 6:45
  Heads up: Paolo Hewitt is a former features writer for the music mags NME and Melody Maker and coauthor of among many other books The A to Z of Mod.
• 6:53
  Heads up: Mod started, really, late fifties in London.
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  Heads up: It was then the modernist movement.
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  Heads up: It wasn't mod at the beginning.
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  Heads up: It was modernist.
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  Heads up: People referred--"I'm a modernist".
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  Heads up: They referred to themselves of modernist.
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  Heads up: They dug a new art for the modern postwar world, beat poetry, Jack Kerouac.
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  Heads up: And they listened to modern jazz they liked Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, those kind of guys, and they like dressing like those guys.
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  Heads up: The Ivy League look, buttoned down collars, tie, suit, looking very smart.
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  Heads up: By 61 or 62, there was a shift.
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  Heads up: Smart, modern sound and style to be into was American R&B.
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  Heads up: You just heard about that a minute ago.
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  Heads up: But mod was still niche, an underground culture of cool kids, mostly in London, plus a few elsewhere, popping uppers so they could dance all night.
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  Heads up: And then in 1963, Rediffusion Television over here started a show called Ready, Steady, Go! What they wanted were bands on with an audience to dance to those bands.
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  Heads up: So they went around the clubs in London and they got all these mods to come and be on the show.
• 8:02
  Heads up: But what that did was to nationalized mod so that kids in Leeds and Manchester and Liverpool could suddenly see what these kids in London were wearing.
• 8:11
  Heads up: Well, each week we like to have a special look at fashion, so we'll kick off that way this week.
• 8:14
  Heads up: First of all, hairstyles.
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  Heads up: So suddenly this kind of very elite youth cult became a national phenomenon.
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  Heads up: For folks like Roger Burton sounds like it was pretty exciting at first.
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  Heads up: Everybody was like, you know, all my friends were all really hooked on it.
• 8:28
  Heads up: It was like, you know, the weekend starts here. Friday night, 6 o'clock.
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  Heads up: Ready, Steady, Go! And of course, they featured all those American bands.
• 8:37
  Heads up: So I was able to see them.
• 8:40
  Heads up: But then he noticed things starting to change where the modernists had been about looking like no one else suddenly there were all these newbies looking alike.
• 8:48
  Heads up: Especially after the arrival of a cheap, sleek vehicle from Italy that would become an iconic mod accessory.
• 8:55
  Heads up: I remember as early as 1963, this kid turning up with a silver Vespa GS scooter dressed head to toe in white, and I think he had a white suit on.
• 9:08
  Heads up: White shirt, even had white hair as well.
• 9:11
  Heads up: He just looked incredible.
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  Heads up: But he had on an American parka like over the top of it.
• 9:17
  Heads up: Well, I'd seen these American parkas in surplus shops, but I'd never actually seen one being worn as a fashion thing.
• 9:25
  Heads up: But he looked amazing and he explained it as being, you know, a cheap form of being able to protect his white clothing on his scooter.
• 9:32
  Heads up: Because it covered it up from the rain and the wind and so on and so on.
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  Heads up: So super cool and super practical.
• 9:39
  Heads up: But then...
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  Heads up: it was everywhere.
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  Heads up: And probably even within six months, all of a sudden I started to see scooters around the town and kids wearing parkas.
• 9:51
  Heads up: And it became like a plague, you know.
• 9:56
  Heads up: This was the most infamous mod look of 1964.
• 9:59
  Heads up: Out of the underground, roaring down roads all over the UK.
• 10:02
  Heads up: Still sharp, but more populist.
• 10:05
  Heads up: Frankly, more like the stuff I wear today.
• 10:07
  Heads up: And for some original mods, less special.
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  Heads up: It became like a uniform.
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  Heads up: Parkas and jeans and Fred Perry shirts and stuff.
• 10:16
  Heads up: And that to me was just jumping on the bandwagon and it felt like, you know, the secret was out.
• 10:22
  Heads up: Soon this new breed not only got disdain from O.G. Modernists, but from the rest of the country.
• 10:28
  Heads up: When a faction of these guys scootered to the seaside town of Clacton over Easter 1964 and ended up going on a minor rampage.
• 10:36
  Heads up: - And what happened?
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  Heads up: - As far as the police were concerned,they came into the town and finding not much else to dothey committed several acts of wanton and purposeless damage. News crews breathlessly reported fights had busted out between the mods and another subculture, biker-types called rockers.
• 10:53
  Heads up: The story sounded pretty exciting.
• 10:55
  Heads up: So when summer hit aggro, guys from both crews headed again to beach towns like Brighton looking for more trouble.
• 11:01
  Heads up: Brighton did not go scot free.Before the holiday was over,76 mods and rockers were arrested. In retrospect, these were probably minor skirmishes blown out of proportion by media into a moral panic.
• 11:14
  Heads up: It really has come to somethingwhen people can't take a short holiday withoutthe threat of long haired youngsters with knives,indulging in an orgy of hooliganism. Paolo Hewitt says, didn't matter.
• 11:23
  Heads up: By 1965, for a lot of Brits, this was the face of mod.
• 11:27
  Heads up: They've got parkas and scooters and you had all that stuff about Brighton and beating up rockers.
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  Heads up: No modernist would ever have, you know, fighting?
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  Heads up: You're going to ruin your clothes.
• 11:38
  Heads up: Why would you go fighting?
• 11:39
  Heads up: I mean, it was, everything was anathema, but it just grown so big that this is what was happening under the term mod.
• 11:45
  Heads up: Modernist was now gone, it was now mod.
• 11:47
  Heads up: Now, some of this sounds a little snobbish.
• 11:49
  Heads up: Well, Roger Burton admits as much.
• 11:51
  Heads up: I mean, it was a lot of eliteism going on, let's put it like that.
• 11:54
  Heads up: But this wave of mods got the last laugh because years later they and their style would become immortalized in music and then on screen, thanks to a major British institution who felt he understood them.
• 12:06
  Heads up: Pete TownsendQuadrophenia, you probably already know, first took shape as a concept album from Townshend's band, The Who.
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  Heads up: They had actually started out in 1964 playing, quote,"Maximum R&B for an audience full of mods." But by 1973, The Who had become prog rock superstars.
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  Heads up: Which is when...
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  Heads up: I felt that the bandhad lost its way. That's Townsend from an interview in 2011.
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  Heads up: I felt the band needed to look back at its roots,and I thought the best way to do that was to look back at,you know, a young man who would be, if you like, kind of a...a model of a combination of all of our boy fans from that period. Namely a parka wearing kid circa 64, born into a gray country traumatized by war and looking for some spiritual direction in a tribe.
• 13:05
  Heads up: Quadrophenia is the story of Jimmy. a teen who feels split into four personalities.
• 13:11
  Heads up: Not mere schizophrenia, quadrophenia.
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  Heads up: He's a rebel, a romantic, a madman, a hypocrite.
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  Heads up: In the first track, I Am the Sea we hear musical themes for each.
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  Heads up: Like voices in his head.
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  Heads up: Is it me, for a moment... The grown ups in his life are too sad or clueless to help him.
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  Heads up: His day job as a janitor is a dead end.
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  Heads up: So in the Song Cut My Hair, he sings about throwing in his lot with the mods.
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  Heads up: Why should I careIf I have to cut my hair?I got to move with the fashionOr be outcastSuiting up with this army of kids feels glorious, at least in the moment.Zoot suit, white jacket with side ventsFive inches long.I'm out on the street againAnd I'm leaping along He pops pills with the mods.
• 14:07
  Heads up: He joins them for a beach rumble with the rockers.
• 14:10
  Heads up: A gang of nearly a thousand youths entered the Grand Hotelin pursuit of two leather clad rockers. But as he gets more cynical about the regular world, Jimmy also gets the feeling being a mod is no escape.
• 14:23
  Heads up: Especially when he sees a respected top mod, an ace face working a lowly gig at a beach hotel.
• 14:30
  Heads up: Bell Boy! I got to get running now Bell Boy! Keep my lip buttoned down Bell Boy! Carry this baggage outBell boy! It's the last straw.
• 14:42
  Heads up: Sick of everything, Jimmy steals a boat, sales it out to a rock waits to be swept away by waves, but instead ends the record drenched in a purifying thunderstorm.
• 14:53
  Heads up: Suddenly enlightened.
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  Heads up: And accompanied by a song anyone who's ever listened to classic rock radio knows.
• 15:00
  Heads up: Love, Reign o'er me So the album is like a beautiful, sweeping opera about an 18 year old.
• 15:14
  Heads up: That is Frank Rodham, the guy who'd eventually direct the Quadrophenia film.
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  Heads up: The emotions are very powerful.
• 15:20
  Heads up: The likes and dislikes are very powerful.
• 15:22
  Heads up: It's also about fighting and sex and taking drugs.
• 15:26
  Heads up: So it's all there on the original album, and it was a beautifully made album, shot with beautiful black and white cover with four sides to it and beautiful still photography.
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  Heads up: In other words, it was begging to be made into a movie.
• 15:44
  Heads up: And in a lot of ways, Rodham was just the filmmaker to do it.
• 15:47
  Heads up: Quadrophenia is about an 18 year old in 1964, and I was 18 in 1964 myself.
• 15:53
  Heads up: So it was this perfect era for me to film.
• 15:56
  Heads up: But he also came to the material as a kind of sympathetic outsider.
• 15:59
  Heads up: Strangely enough, I was a Ban The Bomb guy, you know.
• 16:02
  Heads up: Nuclear disarmament, I wanted to be a baby beatnik.
• 16:05
  Heads up: So when I was about 16, I...
• 16:07
  Heads up: I lied about my age and was traveling a great deal, hitchhiking around.
• 16:11
  Heads up: And then I came back one day from a trip, one of my trips, and the whole town did change.
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  Heads up: Suddenly everyone was a mod.
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  Heads up: The whole style had changed.
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  Heads up: My mate suddenly had very short hair.
• 16:22
  Heads up: Very neat clothes.
• 16:23
  Heads up: Even though that I was like long haired and a bit of a beatnik, I was best man at least two mod weddings.
• 16:31
  Heads up: What is the groom and bride wear at a mod wedding?
• 16:34
  Heads up: A very smart clothes, you know.
• 16:34
  Heads up: I mean, really sharp.
• 16:37
  Heads up: So when he got asked to do the Quadrophenia movie in 1978, he knew well the world he'd be recreating.
• 16:43
  Heads up: And he also knew when it wasn't going to look or sound like.
• 16:48
  Heads up: I didn't want to make just a copy of Tommy.
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  Heads up: As glorious as it was.
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  Heads up: And as much as I love Ken Russell.
• 16:54
  Heads up: Yeah, 1975, director Ken Russell had turned The Who's first rock opera Tommy into a top ten box office hit.
• 17:02
  Heads up: Ever since I was a young boyI played the silver ball It's a gorgeous, lurid, over-the-top musical, the kind of flick where Elton John sings Pinball Wizard while wearing a giant pair of three foot wide combat boots.
• 17:14
  Heads up: He sure played a mean pinball Iconic, but that vibe was not Frank Rodman's thing.
• 17:23
  Heads up: I've never actually set to marryin', yet.Right, on so-and-so date, we will get married.I have never set out to marryin', yet. He actually got his start directing hit cinema verité TV documentaries, including what was more or less the UK's first reality show.
• 17:38
  Heads up: I did a series called The Family.
• 17:40
  Heads up: She's either a liar or you are. I sort of lived with this particular family and their four children, their lodger and their 50 pet birds, and I was the director on the series and we did 13 episodes.
• 17:52
  Heads up: And then after that I made a documentary about a young boy who was an arsonist.
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  Heads up: What do you think about it?Do you think it's a good thing to do?To me it is.
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  Heads up: But to other people it's not.Because people don't likehaving fires set all over the place. He was nearly 11 years old.
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  Heads up: He's now 60.
• 18:11
  Heads up: But I still speak to him three or four times a week.
• 18:13
  Heads up: Drawing a parallel to this movie, you know, unsettled kid who's fractured mentally in some way.
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  Heads up: You think you brought some of that to Quadrophenia?
• 18:22
  Heads up: Yeah, I think I was very influenced by Quatre Cent Coups by Truffaut.
• 18:26
  Heads up: 400 Blows, as it's called.
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  Heads up: And also Kes by Ken Loach.
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  Heads up: They were about disenfranchized kids who were like, you know, wanting and a little bit a little bit sad, you know?
• 18:37
  Heads up: And the same character's in Quadrophenia, if you like.
• 18:40
  Heads up: So this was Rodham's take on Pete Townsend, sweeping rock opera.
• 18:44
  Heads up: He'd make it a bittersweet kitchen sink drama with the grit of a documentary.
• 18:48
  Heads up: It was going to feel real.
• 18:50
  Heads up: And in a flick about mods that had to start with the clothes courtesy of one Roger Burton.
• 18:57
  Heads up: Since his mod youth in Leicester, Burton had become a fashion pro.
• 19:01
  Heads up: With his partner Jack English, he had a boutique in London and amassed a trove of vintage wear.
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  Heads up: In 78 they were selling it from a stall on London's Portobello Road. And one day...
• 19:11
  Heads up: It was a Saturday and I phoned up my partner to see how he'd got on.
• 19:18
  Heads up: And he said, oh, it's been really interesting.
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  Heads up: She said, "This guy walked by and he noticed"that we've got some sixties clothing for sale.
• 19:25
  Heads up: "And he asked if we had any more.
• 19:28
  Heads up: "So I said, Yes, Why?
• 19:29
  Heads up: "And he said, oh, it's because we're just about to start a movie"set in the sixties about mods, and would we be able to supply them?" Of course, the movie was Quadrophenia.
• 19:38
  Heads up: The guy was Frank Rodham who lived nearby, and his first assignment for Burton, ironically, was to find parkas for the dozens of actors and extras who were going to be reenacting a Brighton Beach Rumble on the first week of shooting.
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  Heads up: I think it was like 150 parkas.
• 19:53
  Heads up: They wanted American parkas.
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  Heads up: And of course, you know, I said,"Yeah, no problem." But then I found out that we could get what they called a shell, which is the actual coat, but most of them didn't have a hood.
• 20:05
  Heads up: And I was like, well, why haven't they got hoods?
• 20:07
  Heads up: Turns out the UK government had just decreed army surplus stores couldn't sell military clothes unless they were distressed somehow.
• 20:14
  Heads up: So then we found a lot of hoods in Holland actually.
• 20:18
  Heads up: And so we got those shipped over and we had like a team of women sewing the hoods back onto the coats.
• 20:24
  Heads up: Meanwhile, a lot of the suits the actors wore in those beach melees were actual pristine vintage items from the era.
• 20:31
  Heads up: That sadly also ended up getting pretty distressed.
• 20:33
  Heads up: During the fight scenes sleeves got ripped off, jackets and sweaters got torn apart.
• 20:39
  Heads up: And then, of course, going in the sea in a mohair suit, it ain't going to survive.
• 20:44
  Heads up: It was heartbreaking, but yeah, there you go.
• 20:47
  Heads up: Is there a specific piece that you remember being like, oh man, this one's being sacrificed to the sea.
• 20:52
  Heads up: - This is terrible.
• 20:52
  Heads up: - Not really, no.
• 20:55
  Heads up: Basically, we were out on the road most of the time trying to locate stuff to replenish what had been lost or destroyed or were even stolen, actually.
• 21:04
  Heads up: Stolen by who?
• 21:05
  Heads up: Well, the cast! Not everyone in the cast was so keen to nick their mod gear, though.
• 21:13
  Heads up: Because you've got to remember, this movie was being shot in 1978.
• 21:16
  Heads up: A year, says Frank Rodham, when a lot of UK kids were obsessed with a very different fashion style.
• 21:22
  Heads up: What you had, you had the punk era and punk was very influential.
• 21:26
  Heads up: You know, these outside clothes, they they did away with the tight structure.
• 21:30
  Heads up: It was-- it had a big impact on everything in England, from furniture to architecture, and prints, and design.
• 21:35
  Heads up: Everything.
• 21:37
  Heads up: You're about to hear just how big an impact.
• 21:39
  Heads up: It's a story Frank told me about the guy who played Jimmy's best pal Dave.
• 21:43
  Heads up: Actor Mark Wingett.
• 21:44
  Heads up: He was 16 years old and he was a complete punk.
• 21:47
  Heads up: But he was such a good young actor and I thought he was perfect for the role.
• 21:50
  Heads up: We convinced him to become a mod.
• 21:53
  Heads up: And then there was an incident that took place the first week of shooting.
• 21:57
  Heads up: He'd been causing a bit of problem in the hotel they were all staying in Brighton.
• 22:01
  Heads up: And the assistant director spoke very harshly to him.
• 22:05
  Heads up: And he said, I'm leaving!" I'd already done a weeks filming, couldn't get him to stay.
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  Heads up: And I think, my God, it's going to destroy the film.
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  Heads up: And then I remembered the Johnny Rotten had given me a shirt that belonged to Sid Vicious.
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  Heads up: And as Johnny told me at the time, Sid had come round to attack him for some reason.
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  Heads up: And got annoyed with him about something, come round his house in Fulham.
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  Heads up: And Johnny had hit him with the blunt end of an ax.
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  Heads up: And Sid Vicious threw up onto his own shirt.
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  Heads up: And when Dave said he was going to leave, I said, "You stay,"you can have this shirt that's not only belonged"to Sid Vicious and he's got his puke on it, but it was actually given to me by Johnny Rotten." and that was it.
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  Heads up: That turned the whole meeting around.
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  Heads up: The deal was done.
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  Heads up: He was so pleased to stay and get the shirt and I was so pleased.
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  Heads up: - About a week later, his mother washed it- Oh no! And I don't think he ever spoke to her again.
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  Heads up: You see the power of fashion on and off set.
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  Heads up: Yes. Yes indeed.
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  Heads up: By the way, the reason Rodham had that shirt was because he had originally planned to cast Johnny Rotten as Jimmy.
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  Heads up: To make the movie relevant for the punk crowd.
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  Heads up: Turns out he was better off without him.
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  Heads up: Because a growing group of UK kids were looking for something other than the shirt off Sid Vicious' back.
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  Heads up: Quadrophenia gets dropped into the middle of a mod revival.
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  Heads up: Speaking of which, let's get back to it.
• 24:57
  Heads up: So it's December 1978.
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  Heads up: Shooting has wrapped on Quadrophenia and in London, a 14 year old kid who would soon be one of the movie's biggest fans was busy getting way into the punk scene.
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  Heads up: It was such a powerful thing on the streets of London.
• 25:13
  Heads up: Eddie Piller now runs the record label Acid Jazz.
• 25:16
  Heads up: DJs at fests like Glastonbury and just published a memoir calledClean Living Under Difficult Circumstances, about his youth in UK subcultures.
• 25:24
  Heads up: I was going to punk gigs regularly, you know, I feel I was quite a good little punk.
• 25:29
  Heads up: But the end came for me at a Buzzcocks gig.
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  Heads up: Where people were just taking the piss out of me.
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  Heads up: Yeah, some older kids took one look at Eddie's fluffy mohair sweater and called him the worst punk insult imaginable, a poser.
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  Heads up: And I thought "Sod that I don't need that in my life." And then I saw The Jam in December 1978 and and...
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  Heads up: Became a mod.
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  Heads up: This is a modern world Went out the next day and bought parka.
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  Heads up: This is the modern world The Jam, a band that was punk in its fury and energy.
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  Heads up: But whose frontman, Paul Weller, had been taking the style cues from classic mod since the early seventies, when most British teens just weren't.
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  Heads up: I've seen Paul Weller's schoolbooks and they are full of little drawings of scooters and The Who logos.
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  Heads up: You know, everything that man has done has been for mod.
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  Heads up: Every decision he makes in his life, the books he reads, the socks he wears, he's done for mod.
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  Heads up: He's just the mod.
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  Heads up: Where a lot of punk acts wore shredded clothes and bondage gear Weller's band wore vintage suits and ties, and to Piller, the music had a kind of modernist attitude that felt different too.
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  Heads up: Punks were nihilistic.
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  Heads up: Smash it up, tear it down Mods, on the other hand, especially around The Jam, were, well, the opposite of that.
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  Heads up: He started singing about what's the point in saying destroy?
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  Heads up: We want a new life for everyone.
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  Heads up: And this is the modern world, you know, and even the song titlesThis is the Modern World.This is the modern worldWe don't need no oneto tell us what's right or wrong You know, we wanted to create, we wanted to build.
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  Heads up: We wanted smart clothes.
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  Heads up: Everything that they weren't we wanted to be.
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  Heads up: It was so different that we had to do it.
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  Heads up: We had to be there.
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  Heads up: And I saw The Jam 53 times.
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  Heads up: Eddie was not alone.
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  Heads up: Around London mod bands sprung up in The Jam's wake.
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  Heads up: Aiming for a similar attitude and that same dapper look, which lucky enough for their mostly working class teen audience, was easy to pull off.
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  Heads up: Most of the clothes were secondhand.
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  Heads up: Because don't forget, the Sixties was only 12 years ago, you know, and there were plenty of secondhand suits lying around that you could just pick up for a pound.
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  Heads up: So the look was very cheap when it started.
• 27:44
  Heads up: Around the same time came the so-called two-tone music scene, multiracial bands reviving the ska sound of the sixties.
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  Heads up: They also dressed in trim throwback suits.
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  Heads up: And the two-tone thing were seen as a very much as a mod movement at first.
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  Heads up: You know, for the first year.
• 27:59
  Heads up: Music mags like The NME heralded the dawn of a mod revival.
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  Heads up: And right then, in a moment of perfect synchronicity,Quadrophenia premiered in London summer 1979.
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  Heads up: Now, before I tell you how it was received, you should probably hear something.
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  Heads up: Pete Townsend said in a BBC interview 30 years later.
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  Heads up: It was right before the debut of the Quadrophenia musical, and interviewer Andy Breare asked Pete what kind of audience might come to see it.
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  Heads up: Right in the front row will be old blokesof about my age wearing parkas.And next to them will be a young blokeof about my son's age, also wearing a parka.And the old bloke will be telling the young blokewhat is right and wrong with our show. That's my nightmare.
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  Heads up: "Oh no, no.
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  Heads up: We never did that.
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  Heads up: "No, that dancing.
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  Heads up: That's not how we did it.
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  Heads up: I would never have worn shoes like that. Oh my God!" Yeah mod fashion is all about sweating the details.
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  Heads up: And in 1979...
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  Heads up: some thought Quadrophenia didn't sweat 'em enough.
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  Heads up: I don't know, I've got to be careful what I say here, Including the movie's own outfitters, Roger Burton and his partner Jack English.
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  Heads up: You know, people like Jimmy and, you know, some of the rest of them, they look great.
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  Heads up: But I mean, I remember going to see the premiere and Jack was completely horrified.
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  Heads up: I mean, I think he ended up walking out of the film.
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  Heads up: He was just like, "Oh my God, this is a shambles." Like background extras who dressed in their own totally era inappropriate gear.
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  Heads up: Or more egregious, the character of the Ace-Face, Jimmy's mod icon, played by a young Gordon Sumner a.k.a Sting, specifically his outerwear.
• 29:36
  Heads up: You know, he was meant to be the ultimate, you know, the pinnacle, the face and to look the best and his leather coat might have been the right color, but it was, that was a 1970s leather coat.
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  Heads up: Think we had...
• 29:51
  Heads up: But I mean, you had some input, right?
• 29:53
  Heads up: What did you want to dress him in?
• 29:54
  Heads up: Yeah, we had a we had a suede, a red suede coat that, yeah...
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  Heads up: The production just wouldn't accept it.
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  Heads up: You know, mods didn't wear red suede coats.
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  Heads up: I mean we know for a fact that they did because a dear friend of ours used to wear one.
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  Heads up: Paolo Hewitt says none other than Paul Weller disdained the film for similar reasons.
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  Heads up: And he says some viewers noticed even more unforgivable flaws.
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  Heads up: Do you know what the funny-- I spoke to Frank Rodham, do you know what he told me?
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  Heads up: What the funniest one was?
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  Heads up: - What?
• 30:20
  Heads up: - It's the bit where Jimmy goes to the supermarket to see Leslie Ash.
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  Heads up: She's at the till- and she's swiping stuff through- Groceries.
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  Heads up: Yeah, she swiped through this tin of hot chocolate, Cadbury's hot chocolate and Frank said he got a letter saying, Damn, dear Mr. Rodham, your movie is completely flawed.
• 30:38
  Heads up: The tin of hot chocolate, that particular make wasn't made until 1974.
• 30:44
  Heads up: But if Eddie Piller and his crew of mod revivalists noticed any of that, they absolutely did not care.
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  Heads up: It was August, August 79, a local place at Woodford the ABC Woodford Cinema.
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  Heads up: Thirty or forty us went, young mods to see it.
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  Heads up: And I never forget seeing it the first time it was so important to me and to my friends.
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  Heads up: It changed everything.
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  Heads up: Especially when it came to clothes.
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  Heads up: As much as O.G. Modernist, dissed some of Quad's fashion choices.
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  Heads up: Eddie says the movie showed him there was more to mod than cheap suits and parkas.
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  Heads up: Alright darlin'? Biggest example, the scene where Jimmy, played by the brilliant Phil Daniels, brags to his crush, Leslie Ash, about the sweet outfit he's getting tailor made.
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  Heads up: Yeah what's it like?Handsome. Three buttonsside vents, 16 inch bottoms, dark brown. Up till that time we were dressing very much second hand, going down the East End markets on a Sunday morning and buying clothes.
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  Heads up: After that...
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  Heads up: We'd think about getting suits made or, you know, going down to tailors and paying weekly so you could save up for the suit.
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  Heads up: Going to be one of the faces down there, are you?What do you mean, going to be?I am one of the faces. That's when mod differentiated.
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  Heads up: Everyone looked the same.
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  Heads up: But after Quadrophenia, they didn't.
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  Heads up: They looked original and different.
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  Heads up: In fact, it sounds like it started to feel a lot like Roger Burton's young mod-hood in Leicester.
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  Heads up: A sartorial arms race.
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  Heads up: I mean, it was getting more and more ridiculous, actually.
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  Heads up: People were wearing suits from a tailors that had butterfly cuffs and step-downs we called them, on the bottom of trousers.
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  Heads up: Where the back of the suit was longer than the front, so it fell down the back of your shoes without leaving a crease.
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  Heads up: You know, just mad, obsessive things.
• 32:39
  Heads up: Meanwhile, like Ready, Steady, Go a generation earlier, Quadrophenia took the revival national.
• 32:44
  Heads up: I think the release of the movie sort of caught a moment and a mood.
• 32:46
  Heads up: Ali Catterall is a filmmaker and coauthor of Your Face Here.
• 32:50
  Heads up: One of the first books ever written about British cult movies.
• 32:53
  Heads up: There was an already a kind of burgeoning mod scene that I think the movie really sort of landed, made a huge impact with.
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  Heads up: And then radiated out of London into sort of regional UK.
• 33:03
  Heads up: Definitely scooter clubs, which had never died out in parts of the country, attracted a new wave of kids in Quad's wake.
• 33:09
  Heads up: And Frank Rodham says it didn't hurt that as subcultures went mod, was more practical.
• 33:14
  Heads up: Punk was much more revolutionary than the mod movement.
• 33:17
  Heads up: But the thing about punk, it wasn't for everybody.
• 33:20
  Heads up: Not everybody wanted to dress like a punk or could pull it off, you know, behave like a punk.
• 33:25
  Heads up: I always think about American sport, like football and basketball.
• 33:28
  Heads up: You have to be like 6'6" to play basketball and you have to be 300lbs to play American football.
• 33:34
  Heads up: Punk was like that.
• 33:35
  Heads up: Yes, you could have a safety pin through your nose, but you couldn't go and work in a bank like that.
• 33:39
  Heads up: You couldn't go down the factory like that.
• 33:41
  Heads up: It was quite strangely elitist punk.
• 33:43
  Heads up: So I think, you know, with Quad, I think it did help the transition back to sort of modernism.
• 33:48
  Heads up: It was happening so fast, you know, in the space of that year from from January to December in 1979, there went from being maybe 500 mods in the country to being hundreds of thousands of mods.
• 34:01
  Heads up: It was really strange.
• 34:07
  Heads up: Strange, but not really a surprise.
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  Heads up: Even before the movie came out, mod revivalist figured it would blow things up.
• 34:14
  Heads up: You don't think being a mod's just another thing after...Quadrophenia's going to end all that.- What do you think will happen...
• 34:19
  Heads up: - It's going to commercialize itAnd you're going to get all the shops, like the punk shopsand all the little kiddies following on.Yeah, it's going to end it all.I mean, getting too big now. And Ali Catterall says in London sure enough, the cash-in began.
• 34:34
  Heads up: Yeah, mod clubs start to open, taking inspiration directly from Quadrophenia.
• 34:38
  Heads up: And Carnaby Street it started opening, sort of, mod shops and selling parkas that look like duvet covers.
• 34:45
  Heads up: But big brands were in on the action too.
• 34:47
  Heads up: So this is a 1980 newsletter it's called Levi's International.
• 34:51
  Heads up: Tracey Panek is the in-house historian at Levi Strauss.
• 34:55
  Heads up: The company's 501 jeans were coveted by sixties mods and they are worn by basically everyone in Quadrophenia, not by accident.
• 35:03
  Heads up: So this is 1980, and it's a profile of one of our employees in, London.
• 35:08
  Heads up: His name was Howie, and this is what they describe"Howie put his talents"to work on the new mod revival in the UK"with the release of The Who films Quadrophenia.
• 35:20
  Heads up: "Levi's tied in with the film by providing the cast with Levi's 501s"and putting point of sale material"in record stores and movie theaters.
• 35:31
  Heads up: "This, says Howie, resulted in a rerelease of the 501 jean in the UK to meet the new demand." Every teenage craze has one thing in common There's money in it for somebody.
• 35:43
  Heads up: And then there's The Who, who joined up with a London fashion outfit called Suchi to debut a Quadrophenia clothing line at London's Lyceum Ballroom a few weeks after the movie debuted.
• 35:53
  Heads up: Celebrities like John Entwistle and Kenny Jones of The Who here because their money financed the film.
• 36:00
  Heads up: And the BBC show Nationwide, Entwistle made no bones about what that fashion show was all about.
• 36:06
  Heads up: Well, if there's going to be a new mod culture.Why shouldn't we partake in some way?Is it just purely a commercial venture?As far as I know, yes. But the gold rush wasn't going to last.
• 36:21
  Heads up: Now, a band from South London,they're called the Chords, and this is their current single.It's called Maybe Tomorrow. In January 1980, The Chords cracked the UK top 40 with this Jam-like hit.
• 36:32
  Heads up: Sometmes I just feel these crazy dreams inside They were one of the few mod acts to hit the charts in the wake of Quadrophenia.
• 36:40
  Heads up: That summer, the Purple Hearts actually hit number 60 with a tune called Jimmy, an ode to the movie's hero.
• 36:50
  Heads up: And then all of a sudden...
• 36:54
  Heads up: it all stopped.
• 36:55
  Heads up: By the end of 1981, it was pretty much finished.
• 37:01
  Heads up: What happened do you think that ended that first wave of the mod revival?
• 37:05
  Heads up: - Like what?
• 37:05
  Heads up: - It's a good question.
• 37:07
  Heads up: It was absolute vilification by the music press.
• 37:12
  Heads up: The music press did not like mods because it was a street movement from the streets.
• 37:17
  Heads up: Whereas the favorite movement of the music press and media, they were all university graduates, was post-punk, you know, The Mekons, Gang of Four.
• 37:29
  Heads up: It was an intellectual movement.
• 37:31
  Heads up: And reviews of bands started being about, you know, scooters, get on your little scooter, ride away kind of thing.
• 37:38
  Heads up: And in the end, they did.
• 37:40
  Heads up: Paolo Hewitt thinks mod was just one of a slew of trends Britain's pop culture industry hyped and discarded in the eighties.
• 37:46
  Heads up: For a different set of cynical reasons.
• 37:48
  Heads up: If you take The NME, The NME was kind of struggling.
• 37:52
  Heads up: And then punk came along.
• 37:53
  Heads up: And they got onto it much to their credit very early, and by 1977 they were selling 250,000 copies a week.
• 38:01
  Heads up: Right?
• 38:03
  Heads up: That's a lot a lot of money being poured in.
• 38:05
  Heads up: And everybody realized that there was a lot of money to be had if you got in on the right thing.
• 38:10
  Heads up: And that's why all these movements started sprouting up like the mod revival, the ska revival, the this revival the that revival.
• 38:19
  Heads up: It just all came up.
• 38:20
  Heads up: By his telling mod got its 15 minutes and then it was on to the next subculture.
• 38:25
  Heads up: In any case...
• 38:26
  Heads up: The Jam split up in December 82 and with them mod was finished.
• 38:34
  Heads up: And I thought that would be the end.
• 38:36
  Heads up: It wasn't.
• 38:37
  Heads up: Yeah, like a brood of well-dressed cicadas mod has a way of laying low and then blooming out of nowhere.
• 38:43
  Heads up: And since 79 every flowering seems to involve Quadrophenia.
• 38:48
  Heads up: Please join me in welcomingfrom England, Blur. Like I still remember in 1993, seeing the band Blur play their song Chemical World on a brand new talk show calledLate Night With Conan O'Brien.
• 39:05
  Heads up: Front man Damon Albarn was wearing a slim three button suit.
• 39:09
  Heads up: My first glimpse of the mod inspired mid-nineties Britpop explosion.
• 39:13
  Heads up: The pay-me girl has had enough of the bleepsSo she takes the bus into the countryAlthough she... And what do you know, on the title cut of their next album, Parklife...
• 39:23
  Heads up: Oi! There was Quadrophenia's Jimmy himself, actor Phil Daniels contributing a running monologue.
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  Heads up: Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeurOf what is known asParklife! And the very next year in 1995, with Britpop in full swing and UK bands like Oasis sashaying around in parkas mod returned to the fashion runway.
• 39:47
  Heads up: There was a whole mod collection where I opened the show and Linda Evangelista came out on a Vespa.
• 39:53
  Heads up: That is superstar designer Anna Sui.
• 39:53
  Heads up: She has always been inspired by Mod and sixties UK bands.
• 39:59
  Heads up: And a formative moment came just as she was starting out circa 1979.
• 40:04
  Heads up: Oh sure, I went to the New York premiere of Quadrophenia.
• 40:08
  Heads up: It was on Eighth Street and it was, I believe, the premiere because Sting was there.
• 40:14
  Heads up: I remember he came walking through the movie lobby and everyone...
• 40:17
  Heads up: "The Face! The Face!" Do you think that movie specifically, like gave you a new way of seeing or like sort of crystallized the look for you in any way?
• 40:26
  Heads up: Oh yeah, definitely.
• 40:28
  Heads up: It gave me a new vantage point in looking at mod because I had only seen mod through record covers and music magazines and suddenly, like I see the everyday mod those army, navy parkas like the fishtail jackets.
• 40:46
  Heads up: And, you know, in that whole scene in Brighton, you know, like so was just it was a whole new thing to me.
• 40:53
  Heads up: And for evidence, the movie still resonates today just pay a visit to Brighton and step into Quadrophenia Alley.
• 40:59
  Heads up: It's not just the place full of mod graffiti.
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  Heads up: The shop right next door.
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  Heads up: - Let me ask your name.
• 41:05
  Heads up: - Paul Bone.
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  Heads up: And what do you do?
• 41:08
  Heads up: I work in Quadrophenia Alley Store.
• 41:11
  Heads up: When Paul Bone and his partner John Lasseter opened the place nine years ago, it was called Bone Clothing.
• 41:17
  Heads up: The plan was to sell the same menswear as their other shop 15 miles away.
• 41:21
  Heads up: Italian suits, that sort of thing.
• 41:23
  Heads up: They got no buyers.
• 41:24
  Heads up: We stood here all day taking no money, but we were completely aware of the alleyway and what it represented.
• 41:31
  Heads up: People would stop in to have their photograph taken by the alleyway, and we thought well perhaps there was something in it for us.
• 41:37
  Heads up: They decided to stock one of the staples of the Quadrophenia look, Fred Perry style polo shirts striped around the collar and sleeves.
• 41:44
  Heads up: We purchased 120 Lambretta tipped polo shirts and they came in on the Thursday and I was in the other store on a Saturday afternoon and they called me out and they said,"You know those polo shirts?" I said, Yeah.
• 41:56
  Heads up: They said, "They've all gone." I said, "What, all of them?" They said, "Every single one." Realizing they were on to something, they cleared the Italian suits out of the shop.
• 42:04
  Heads up: Restocked it with all this mod type clothing, and we doubled the turnover in the first year.
• 42:10
  Heads up: And we realized then that we did underestimate the popularity of the movie.
• 42:16
  Heads up: And to be fair, as a sometimes mod myself, I can't quite understand why I'm so into this movie.
• 42:22
  Heads up: For reasons that I put to Ali Catterall, who, by the way, has made his own pilgrimage to Quadrophenia Alley.
• 42:26
  Heads up: I've graffitid it myself, to be honest.
• 42:28
  Heads up: I actually have a question for you about this.
• 42:30
  Heads up: - Okay.
• 42:30
  Heads up: - This movie has become such a mod Bible that mods come from everywhere to graffiti this alley, but the movie's actually not that, you know, high on mod.
• 42:41
  Heads up: In fact, the original concept is basically saying, you know, this is a dead end.
• 42:45
  Heads up: You won't find yourself in this army, you won't find yourself in a mob.
• 42:48
  Heads up: Why do you think it resonated with mods in the late seventies and with mods today when that's its message?
• 42:53
  Heads up: I think, I think that comes out of Pete Townsend's inherent depressive cynicism.
• 42:59
  Heads up: Really, that kind of attitude.
• 43:01
  Heads up: If we remove Townsend's cynicism from it, the film in itself is one of the most joyful exuberant, exhilarating evocations of youth and what it means to be young.
• 43:12
  Heads up: And in love and being off your head and not knowing your place, not knowing who you are but slowly, slowly clawing away towards finding those truths.
• 43:22
  Heads up: If you watched the movie carefully, Jimmy, he's walking away from the cliff top at the end of that movie.
• 43:28
  Heads up: He's facing a new dawn, if you like, literally a new dawn in which hopefully he's going to discover himself.
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  Heads up: And I think modern mods took some optimism away from that during what was quite definitely a very pessimistic era.
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  Heads up: And optimism I think is actually the essence of mod.
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  Heads up: And maybe why the look never really goes away.
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  Heads up: It might seem nostalgic or a throwback, but what it feels like when I wear it is hopeful.
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  Heads up: Staying sharp, even when everything's a shambles.
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  Heads up: And looking forward to the modern world.
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  Heads up: And that's the MUBI Podcast for this week.
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  Heads up: Follow us this season for more stories about film and fashion.
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  Heads up: Next time double Oscar winning costume designer Ruth E. Carter tells us about the street style she dreamed up for Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing.
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  Heads up: Both timeless and not so timeless.
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  Heads up: Joie Lee's character, we gave her a Swatch watch that she put on her ankle.
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  Heads up: We thought we'd set a trend with it, but it didn't set any trends.
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  Heads up: Follow us so you don't miss it.
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  Heads up: Meanwhile, this episode of the MUBI Podcast was written, hosted and edited by me, Rico Gagliano.
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  Heads up: Ciara McEniff is our producer.
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  Heads up: Beth Schiff is our booking producer.
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  Heads up: Stephen Colon mastered it.
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  Heads up: Music by Martin Austwick.
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  Heads up: The additional track Blueprint by Jahzzar came courtesy of Tribe of Noise.
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  Heads up: Extra thanks this week to David Harper, Michael Gino, Melis Uslu and Ali Catterall.
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  Heads up: Ali is co-director of the new documentary Scala about the legendary London cinema of the same name.
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  Heads up: You can see it now in UK theaters and then go back and check out our episode about the Scala back in season two.
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  Heads up: This show is executive produced by me along with Jon Barrenechea, Efe Çakarel, Daniel Kasman and Michael Tacca.
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  Heads up: If you love the show, tell the world by leaving a five star review wherever you listen, let them know were something special.
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  Heads up: Also, if you've got questions, comments, or if you are at this moment wearing a parka and itching to tell me everything I got wrong about mod, email us at podcast@mubi.com And of course, to stream the best in cinema, including some of the films we talk about on this very podcast just head over to MUBI.com to start watching.
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  Heads up: Thanks for listening.
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  Heads up: Be safe and may all your movie outings be worth dressing up for.