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A Swift joins the pod, Carolyn has a clingy robot and Liz's white suit lives to see another day · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
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  Speaker 1: talk about netball, but we talk about so much more.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carol and Swindle. I'm very lonely this week.
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  Speaker 1: Catherine is in the Middle East of her own volition,
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  Speaker 1: and she will be returning home in a week. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like she's doing a lot of things for her
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  Speaker 1: own volition there that she's just loving, certainly frequenting the
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  Speaker 1: cocktail bars. Of course I am joined, not in the
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  Speaker 1: same room, but virtually by It's Alice.
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  Speaker 2: Yay, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How I am I look, I'm not in Dubai at
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  Speaker 3: the cocktail bar doing a visit to Abu Dhabi. I
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  Speaker 3: think that was the last thing I saw on Catherine's instagram,
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  Speaker 3: so no, I am on the Northern River though, and
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  Speaker 3: I have been waiting, so my fingernails are filthy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry about that. And I actually changed my shirt before
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  Speaker 3: I came on, so that's a big concession to this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I had to put makeup on this morning because I
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  Speaker 1: turned fifty six on the weekend, and at my CrossFit gym,
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  Speaker 1: you have to do fifty six of something, and because
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  Speaker 1: I've got a bung knee, I can't do burpie. So
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  Speaker 1: I had to do fifty six handstand push ups, which
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  Speaker 1: I was very happy. But I've got these blood vessels
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  Speaker 1: broken on my face now looks like it looks like
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  Speaker 1: Pete and I have had an argument, and but anyway
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  Speaker 1: we haven't. But I've put some makeup on for that.
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  Speaker 3: Happy birthday for the weak, thank.
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  Speaker 1: You, thank you. Yes it was a very nice one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting good at them now though.
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  Speaker 3: What birthdays? Or handstand push ups? So did you just
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  Speaker 3: like getting a handstand with your head down and your
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  Speaker 3: legs up and do fifty six push ups? Want?
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  Speaker 1: So I do do to an ab mat because that
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  Speaker 1: is the master's standard now, but it was still I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty pleased with that.
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  Speaker 3: Shall she go?
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  Speaker 1: But we do have a guest. We have a guest.
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  Speaker 1: I have a surprise for you, Liz. This is so exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Well the guest was your biceps?
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  Speaker 2: No, well.
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  Speaker 1: No, I've actually got someone else to coverlog So yes,
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  Speaker 1: we have it. We have a very special guest here today. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as is standard when we have a special guest, I
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  Speaker 1: ask one of my co hosts to guess who our
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  Speaker 1: special guest is. You have a blindfold on. Stop picking
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  Speaker 1: at it with your mud caked fingernails. Okay, our special
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  Speaker 1: guest is dating Elizabeth Hurley and is the father of
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  Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus and would like to take his horse to
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  Speaker 1: the Old Town Road with little Nazin. I think you
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  Speaker 1: know too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, is it Richard Gear.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Richard Gear? All right, No, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be so excited because it is not Billy ray Cyrus.
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  Speaker 1: I just did my little bit of research just when
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know this Elizabeth Hurley thing. Like Elizabeth Early
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  Speaker 1: and Billy ray Cyrus, I know, I just learnt about
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  Speaker 1: that this morning.
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  Speaker 3: So does that mean there's only like two degrees of
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  Speaker 3: separation between Like Elizabeth Hurley is the person who links
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  Speaker 3: Billy ray Cyrus and Shaye Warn. I didn't see that coming.
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  Speaker 1: But she also went out with Hugh Grant, Hugh Grant,
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  Speaker 1: Billy ray Cyris.
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  Speaker 2: So true, Yeah, she.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't have a tie.
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  Speaker 1: But our guest is sitting very quietly.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, I know you want to keep talking about
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  Speaker 3: who our guest is, but this is fascinating because yes,
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  Speaker 3: I have a type, I.
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  Speaker 2: Have a tie.
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  Speaker 1: How would you be trying to set Elizabeth Hurley up
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  Speaker 1: with someone you got back to you your warning, Billy
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  Speaker 1: ray Cyrus here grat there's going to be more. I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll take that as an action to try to
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  Speaker 1: investigate who else Elizabeth Hurley has started. But our guest
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  Speaker 1: today is not Billy ray Cyris. I'm delighted to report
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  Speaker 1: our guest played professionally in It wasn't Supernetball then it
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  Speaker 1: was a I don't know, you would tell me what
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  Speaker 1: the comp is with the CBA.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, couple getting ten.
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  Speaker 1: From the team that I am the only one who
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  Speaker 1: has ever paid any money to be a member of.
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  Speaker 1: So that narrows it down to one of two clubs
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  Speaker 1: that I'm a member of, as you know, played for
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  Speaker 1: them from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the guests to tell me if I
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  Speaker 1: get anything prep one premierships in two thousand and one
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  Speaker 1: and two and four. Our special guest has been a
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  Speaker 1: professional coach since twenty seventeen. Was the announcement started with
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen as their first year as a professional coach,
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  Speaker 1: and then went on and just coached them to a
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  Speaker 1: premiership win the following year, thank you very much, and
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  Speaker 1: then two years after that as well, So twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one. Come on, you know who this is.
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  Speaker 1: Our special guest is a supreme mid quarter, so doesn't
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  Speaker 1: just hang around waiting for the ball to make your
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  Speaker 1: way down, actually gets out there and does the work.
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  Speaker 1: Our special guests lived in Sydney. Our special guest is
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  Speaker 1: the current coach of the sun Corps supernetball team, the
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales swift Our special guest is your very
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  Speaker 1: dear friend, Brian y Acor.
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  Speaker 3: Kay, if you're going to admit a guest, I was
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  Speaker 3: going to say, our special guest is my hairdressers missus.
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  Speaker 4: Hi home right, Hi, thanks for having me. This is exciting.
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  Speaker 3: It's so exciting. Gosh, what a step up from Catherine. No,
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  Speaker 3: don't even tell her I said that.
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  Speaker 4: Yay. I'm not in Dubai. I'm not eating a garden.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm back at work today, Day one, back.
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  Speaker 5: In swifties Land, which is a bit scary because I
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  Speaker 5: realize how much work.
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  Speaker 4: That I have to do now that I've had some
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  Speaker 4: time off.
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  Speaker 3: What did you do in your time off?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't go away.
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  Speaker 5: I just became the mummy again, back at home, cleaning
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  Speaker 5: the house, taking drop offs, being the uber driver, just
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  Speaker 5: being at home, which was actually really nice.
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  Speaker 1: You've got four boys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh nice? Now your twins Charlie and m Are they
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  Speaker 3: seventeen this birthday or next day?
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  Speaker 5: This Monday, This coming Monday, they'll be seventeen. Sebastian just
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  Speaker 5: turned twenty yesterday and Carolyn.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I've got four boys, so their birthdays within a
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  Speaker 4: week of each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but the twins their birthdays at day after Evelyn's birthday,
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  Speaker 3: which is how I know their birthday. So they will
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  Speaker 3: get their peas, will they No, they.
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  Speaker 4: Will have to wait a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Having twins doing it, having to do one hundred and
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  Speaker 5: twenty hours is been a of a struggle with both
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  Speaker 5: of them. So one's a bit more confident than the other,
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  Speaker 5: so I have to narrow that confidence back down and
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  Speaker 5: tell him is not that good a driver, Charlie, even
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  Speaker 5: though he thinks.
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  Speaker 3: So, can I guess that that's Charlie Charlie.
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  Speaker 5: So there's been a lot of moments in especially the
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  Speaker 5: last month, because I'm pushing them to get in that car.
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  Speaker 5: So I cannot wait for them to get their license.
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  Speaker 5: It will change my world, it'll change.
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  Speaker 4: Starts world my husband. It'll be amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's just zave to drive around.
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  Speaker 5: Then those big boys will be driving to soccer training,
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  Speaker 5: baseball training, friends, parties, get away.
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  Speaker 3: Sommy Spratt, you said you've got to work, and you
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  Speaker 3: realize there was like a lot of work to do.
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  Speaker 3: What do you have to do.
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  Speaker 5: So we've got a new strength and conditioning trainer, Samsey.
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  Speaker 5: He's just joined today, so it's a whole new world
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  Speaker 5: to him in terms of planning the netball season.
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  Speaker 4: So people won't.
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  Speaker 5: Know, but in the netball world we actually have to
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  Speaker 5: give as soon as the draw comes out. For some
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  Speaker 5: corps Super Netball, your team is supposed to have their
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  Speaker 5: schedule for the next twelve months, so scheduling every training session,
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  Speaker 5: every day off begins today. So they've got their first
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  Speaker 5: couple next two months. The Swiss have got their training schedule.
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  Speaker 5: But from today onwards, it's all about planning, planning, planning,
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  Speaker 5: finding preseason games that will play, when we give them
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  Speaker 5: their days off, when they're in the gym, all that
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  Speaker 5: sort of stuff. So yeah, a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 5: of planning that people, but we don't realize that goes
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  Speaker 5: into the everyday life of the netball world.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, this year, I don't even know it's last
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  Speaker 1: last netball year. You did a spectacular job getting some
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  Speaker 1: preseason games in New South Wales with New Zealand, and
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting Briani. Obviously there's a lot that you can't
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  Speaker 1: talk about there, but that's another layer of stress that
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  Speaker 1: you are managing at the moment, and I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: a is that an hour by hour type thing you've
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  Speaker 1: got your eye on that or how do you how
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  Speaker 1: do you fit this in?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think behind the scenes, there's it's been going
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  Speaker 5: on for a little while with Noline Tarua and the
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  Speaker 5: Silver Firm, so I have had a lot to do
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  Speaker 5: with it in the last few months. So I can't
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  Speaker 5: say a lot, but I think the good thing is
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  Speaker 5: Noles is super excited to be able to get back
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  Speaker 5: into that space of coaching and obviously their Seal fans
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  Speaker 5: did well last night. They've played South Africa and done
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  Speaker 5: a really good job. So navigating that has been a
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  Speaker 5: bit challenging, very challenging obviously, but a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: don't know that I was still coaching with them as
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  Speaker 5: a specialist role. So obviously the focus has been about
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  Speaker 5: Noles in the media and you know it is a
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  Speaker 5: big deal that the Dame has been stood down, but
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  Speaker 5: hopefully she'll be back in that space soon, and yeah,
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  Speaker 5: she'll be back on deck.
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  Speaker 3: Bro. There's been a bit don't we to say anything
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  Speaker 3: or ask you to say anything that you can't, But
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  Speaker 3: there's been a bit like you look at some of
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  Speaker 3: the comments and I do try to not read the comments,
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  Speaker 3: but some of the comments around well, why would Noline
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  Speaker 3: want to go back once? If this gets resolved and
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  Speaker 3: Netboard New Zealand ask coached, will she want to Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I think the core of Knowles is about player first,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that for her, she's been behind the
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  Speaker 5: scenes obviously for the past since Conslation Cup last year,
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  Speaker 5: she's been planning the next two years of two years
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  Speaker 5: of what that looks like leading into a World Cup,
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  Speaker 5: Cometh Games and Common Cups. So she wants to get
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  Speaker 5: back out there. She is a person that doesn't sit
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  Speaker 5: in the crap sits there. She wants to look forward
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  Speaker 5: and move on. And you know her, she's all about
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  Speaker 5: that gut feel around a player and what that looks
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  Speaker 5: like with the silver fan. She'll always put that silver
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  Speaker 5: fan first. So no matter what's gone on, I feel
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  Speaker 5: like once she is hopefully back in there, that you
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  Speaker 5: know good things will come out of it. Out of
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  Speaker 5: challenging situations, good things always do. You always learn something
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  Speaker 5: about everybody. And I think that's the mantra that she
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  Speaker 5: takes in terms of bringing the feedback. Let's work together,
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  Speaker 5: and I think, you know, the netball world need New
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  Speaker 5: Zealand to be amazing and great, so I think that's
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  Speaker 5: where she wants it to be moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they did put out a pretty good performance last night.
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  Speaker 3: They beat South Africa the silver Ferns seventy seven fifty
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  Speaker 3: one in that first test in Auckland. Did you catch
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  Speaker 3: any of it?
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  Speaker 4: I watched bits and pieces of it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they've been training hard behind the scenes, which
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  Speaker 5: is what it's about, right being that professional athlete and
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  Speaker 5: knowing that you've got a job to do for your country.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't think. I think it was always going
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  Speaker 5: to bring them together internally to say, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 5: show the world that we're great nepples. And that's their
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  Speaker 5: job is to get out there and do first and
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  Speaker 5: foremost be a great netple out there, and I think
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  Speaker 5: they did a really good job.
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  Speaker 1: All I'm interested in is how did Grace go.
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  Speaker 4: She was good. I didn't see her volume.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see the final stats, but she was strong,
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  Speaker 1: she was good, excellent. We talked a lot about this
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  Speaker 1: last week and this, and this isn't something I'm really
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you to comment on specifically about New Zealand,
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  Speaker 1: but like this psychological safety and try and create an
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  Speaker 1: environment for young people who are in a high performance
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  Speaker 1: environment where it is necessarily competitive and they are required
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  Speaker 1: to have the mental strength to deal with a competitive environment.
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  Speaker 1: And what a balance that is for coaches and coaching staff.
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  Speaker 1: I saw you after the semi final where the Vixen's
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  Speaker 1: beat the Swifts last year, and you stood there with
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  Speaker 1: your arm around Grace for quite an extended period of time.
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  Speaker 1: She was obviously very upset of blaming herself. And this
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  Speaker 1: is you know, we are dealing with young people here.
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  Speaker 1: It's an incredibly difficult balance that you have to play
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  Speaker 1: there in exacting those standards from them, but also playing
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  Speaker 1: that sort of pastoral care role and encouraging them and
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  Speaker 1: creating a space where they feel they can take risks
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  Speaker 1: and fail because if you're not willing to risk failure,
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  Speaker 1: then you'll never find greatness and stuff. And it's like
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  Speaker 1: that's a I think a fascinating thing for the sport,
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  Speaker 1: for every sport actually to have to face.
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  Speaker 5: Now from a high performance perspective, I think I don't
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  Speaker 5: really want to go near the psychological fear and safety thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know what that's about like, to be honest,
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  Speaker 4: I feel.
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  Speaker 5: Like any head coach's role is to get the best
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  Speaker 5: out of a player, to set up an environment that
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  Speaker 5: it is competitive, and Lizzie Yuill a test to this.
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  Speaker 5: You're playing the best of the best in the world
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  Speaker 5: and your training sessions or the accountability to turn up
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  Speaker 5: being prepared is on an athlete.
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  Speaker 4: The accountability on as.
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  Speaker 5: A coach to have the team strategy right and to
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  Speaker 5: be able to create an environment where you know, GG
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  Speaker 5: after that game that we were just talking about, was
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  Speaker 5: absolutely devastated that she'd missed that shot or didn't take
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  Speaker 5: the shot. Players know when they have stuffed up, they
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  Speaker 5: don't need to be told in their face that you
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  Speaker 5: didn't shoot that goal.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't you know. I think GG will.
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  Speaker 5: Remember how we responded as a performance scene for the
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  Speaker 5: rest of her life or what that meant moving forward.
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  Speaker 5: So in that change room after that game, you know,
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  Speaker 5: she came over to me and said, I need to
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  Speaker 5: talk to you. Can I talk about that shot? So
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: I was like, of course you can. Like that moment
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  Speaker 5: didn't define her, It didn't define that game. There was
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  Speaker 5: probably seven minutes before that that the train was coming
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  Speaker 5: and we couldn't push it back. So, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like any coach has that. You know, you work
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  Speaker 5: together like the whole time and if you don't, the
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  Speaker 5: whole world can see it. And I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's a fine line to say what that psychological safety is?
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  Speaker 4: What does that even mean? I don't know. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like in.
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  Speaker 5: Every environment this might sound a bit contradictive, but there
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  Speaker 5: is a level of fear going into a high performance team.
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  Speaker 4: Because you don't want to stuff up.
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  Speaker 5: You want to do your best every single time, and
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  Speaker 5: there will be confrontation in terms of did you do
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  Speaker 5: your job?
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  Speaker 4: I always say did I do my job?
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  Speaker 5: As a coach? Did I make the right change? Like
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  Speaker 5: I always say, it's easy from the cheap seats. I
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  Speaker 5: come home and my boys will certainly tell me that
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  Speaker 5: I've made the wrong changes.
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  Speaker 4: Well what did you do that for? I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. Don't ask me that now, let me have
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  Speaker 4: time to think about it.
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  Speaker 5: But you know from my perspective, and I can only
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  Speaker 5: speak from my perspective as a coach. There is that
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  Speaker 5: fine line between setting the record straight around how you
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  Speaker 5: should have played a game to the reality that they're
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  Speaker 5: a human, They've got feelings and if everyone out there listening,
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  Speaker 5: they do get on social media and see all those comments.
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  Speaker 4: Even though you tell them not to go near it,
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  Speaker 4: they certainly get on there. But it's a crazy world.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like any high performing team or coach
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  Speaker 5: will say there is tension all the time in a
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  Speaker 5: high performance team, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we obviously played together back in the day
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  Speaker 3: and Julie Fitzgerald was our coach, and then after we
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  Speaker 3: finished playing, you had a couple of different jobs, but
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  Speaker 3: you always had this idea of coaching, so you came
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: through the junior ranks. You coach the New South Wales
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  Speaker 3: under seventeens or nineteens.
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  Speaker 4: Or seventeens nineteens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you sort of did that apprenticeship.
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  Speaker 4: Yeap.
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  Speaker 3: When you look back now to how our team operated
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  Speaker 3: in the early two thousands to the way your team
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  Speaker 3: operates now, has coaching changed. Is there something fundamentally different
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  Speaker 3: or is it still the same and it's just the
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  Speaker 3: bits around the outside are different.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like there's that much that has changed.
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  Speaker 5: What I do feel like is how the coach interacts
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  Speaker 5: with this generation in terms of the expectation, is a
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  Speaker 5: little bit different. We didn't have the social media, we
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  Speaker 5: didn't have the constant commentary around our games.
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  Speaker 4: We could go.
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  Speaker 3: Home, we went to work.
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  Speaker 5: We had other people to interact with, and you know
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  Speaker 5: that's really important here at the Swifts. A lot of
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: them still have their jobs, like Sarah Cloud occupational therapists,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Maddie Turner's a speech therapist, so they go off into
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: their own worlds.
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  Speaker 4: And still have that balance.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: But I feel like this generation of players don't have
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: to work the majority of them, So I feel like
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: the team environment, Lizzie, the stuff that we did hasn't
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: really changed that much, But how you interact and how
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: you know, you sit down and set the expectations maybe
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: a little bit different. Because we're here every day. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: think in preseason they get one day off. I feel
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: like we didn't didn't train that hart, Lizzie. Do we
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: like we every day?
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: We did mix up training hard and playing hard and
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: having fun. I think much more so than what the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: like I think, I look at the way that the
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: players are now, and they're so professional, and they're so
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: they're so much better than we ever were. I mean,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: we thought we were professional, but you're right, we also
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: had jobs, and so netball was what you did with
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: your mates, and even though we were sort of high performance,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: there was still a bit of fun. These players now, like,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: they're amazing. There's so much more professional than we were.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I go to tell stories about what, oh we used
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: to now, I.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Go, oh, I can't say that right, and I just changed.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Oh we used to like, yeah, recover the next day.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Very different recovery. Yes, I imagine aren't packing their bags
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: when they go to the game to play in Perth
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: and then going straight from the game to the nightclub
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: and getting their manager to pick them up from the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: nightclub and drive them to the airport, for example. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: would wager that's not happening anymore with spray.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: No or someone.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I remember certain player in our team being locked out
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: because the doors were closed, but we had to get
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: to the airport because I was still coming back from
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: going out.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, that's so true, But you got to
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: back it up.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: By doing well, right, and I feel like we won
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: a few games.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah we did.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, you did. You did well?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did very well. But you know, people talk
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to me now about what an amazing coach Brian is
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, what you people don't understand is should
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: he said, She looks like but it doesn't melt in
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: her mouth. But I was always the one that got
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: in trouble that you started. You started it and then
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: would have this really sweet smile on your face and
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I would go on with it, and I would be
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: the one to get in trouble.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Well, well you should have gone on with it, Elizabeth.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, your limited it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I don't care who started it. I'm finishing it. Something
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: big that did happen. And we've been waiting for an
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: announcement on an ownership change on one of the teams.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: But I was a bit surprised that we've had an
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: announcement about an ownership change of another one I didn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: see coming.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, so's Melbourne Storm no longer own Sunshine Coast Lightning.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: So the ownership now of Sunshine Coast Lightning sits with
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Global Sport Management and they'll become the new license holder
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: from the first of October. So Global Sports Management owned
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a couple of teams, so they own the Newcastle Jets.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: They also own the Ottawa Blackjacks, which is a basketball
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: team in Canada. Justin Pasco. One of the owners lives
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: up on the Sunshine Coast and was really keen to
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: sort of get involved a in netball and b to
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: have a franchise near where he lives. So yeah, sort
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: of exciting times for Lightning in terms of just a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: bit of a rejuvenation of the ownership, and that just
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: seems storm step back from ownership.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: It's just exciting when someone says I want this and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I'm in, and you think, well, great, they're going to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: do something good. I will at this moment do my
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: weekly read from Foolish Words, the most stupid words ever spoken.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And my advice to the new ownership of the Sunshine
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Coast Lightning comes from Samuel Goldwyn from the movie Business
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Metro Goldwen May and he said, don't improve it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Into a flop.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So that would be I think good advice for the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: new owners at the Sunshine Coast Lightning.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Don't improve it into a flop. And I look and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think that's a really good market up there. They've
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: got significant support. You can't get a ticket to a
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: game for love nor money. Great corporate support. They've got
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: that partnership with the University of the Sunshine Coast. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see sort of what the next
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: iteration is for Lightning and what Global Sports Management do
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to organize my social life for next year.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I love getting the draw out nice and early, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I've got a group of girlfriends and we we went
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to Melbourne and this year it's like where will we
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: go for our weekend away? And it's like, well, we'll
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: go wherever I want to go to a Super Netball game.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And I was looking at Noosart but it's like, well,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we probably can't get tickets for the Sunshine Case, so
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: let's you know, let's not go there. So maybe Adelaide,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: maybe Melbourne again.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still working really hard to try and
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: get the Grand Final to I don't know, like Bali
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: or Hayman Island or something like that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Hamilton Island is what I asked.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry my mistakes, Bridy, where would you like it to be?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe Hawaii or something like that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Guys contractually obliged to say Sydney, No, not really didn't
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: they years ago used to be like a like a
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: participation event in Hawaii. Wasn't there Hawaiian Netball Carnival?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that. I remember that. Did you go that?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Used to go to it and I was like, how
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: do I get a gig to that? But by the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: time I had a big enough profile, it was like
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: beach netball, wasn't it? Wasn't there a beach netball tournament?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: No? That was that was on the Gold Coast.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: That was netfest?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Was that on sand?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Beach netball would commonly be on sand?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: How do you deal with stepping?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: There's no stepping?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: There's no stepping? You know, well, you don't step because
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: it's too hard. I played beach netball and it was
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: really hard. Your feet's sinking. It's actually hard to get
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: got to stop.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: We will come back to some more netball talk. But Liz,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: speaking of high performance, you had a weekend of excellence.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I believe I.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Did have a weekend. Actually, I've had a week of excellence.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: So you will remember we talked about the team that
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I coach winning the Grand Final last Saturday, and I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: must say my week has continued on in the same vey.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I had to go to Sydney for some meetings on Wednesday,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and I wore white pants all day, no stains.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Nice work.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you what an achievement that is? Because
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I am a grot so I often do see Catherine
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: get into commentary with her white suit, and I always
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: send her a message and go, oh, that's brave, because
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: when you're sitting on the sideline, there's coffee, there's tea.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: There's follies, and sometimes there's players colliding with the table
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that she's sitting at trying to do the commentary right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly right. I think white suit is just like saying
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to the universe, come at me with all your filth. Right.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: So anyway, Catherine seems to go okay, But this is
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: a woman who when you're at her house, she vacuums
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: after what you're still there.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I was just saying, your feet lift up off the
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: table because she's got the vacuum cleaner out, are you.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Still exactly right? Whereas I vacuum sometime in the month
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: after my guest sleeve right, So that's actually, let's be clear,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I don't vacuum. I have I pay someone to vacuum,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: so you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Should get a robot vacuum cleaner. It's the greatest guy. Yeah,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: although I swear to God, this thing is learned, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it will come and find us wherever we are in
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the house. When it's on, it's like you're not a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: sentient being. You don't need company. It's like a small
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: dog that it's like, what the hell are you doing
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in here?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And go over there?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I love it that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so look that was that was quite the achievement.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: White pants. Nice.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Nice. And then I got home and my husband said
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: that the washing machine's not working. Now I don't have
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I'm no good mechanically anything mechanical. I've got no idea.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But he was like the washing machine stopped, and then
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: he went outside and was like being a farmer for
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the whole day and I needed to washing. So I
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: fixed the washing machine. Nice?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Why did that?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: The day we went to Europe it broke and it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a front loader, so you know it fills with water
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and so you can't break in it. Then, and so
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I got on YouTube looked at a video workout how
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: did it? The problem is, though I had to twist
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the drain thing and I bug at attendance. So I'm
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: now six months of wrist pain, but I still every
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: time the wrist hurts, I think, yeah, but I fixed
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the washing machine. God, it's a strong sense of achieving, man,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Isn't it? It felt felt good. I think we might
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: have had the same problem. I had to twist it off.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: But what I didn't understand or didn't think about, was
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: when you twist this drain thing off in a front loader,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the water comes out, and.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Then I mocked the floor.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything else around it has been drenched. But anyway,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: so it was quite a big high performance week for me,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and I feel like I don't feel like the people
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: around me. I my family really celebrated it enough, so
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I thought I'd bring it here and just you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: just celebrate it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Well, we're proud of you, Lizzie.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Well done, Lizzie.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Cat's not here for this momentous announcement.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Well, she would probably pour scorn on me because she
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: wears white all the time and doesn't get it dirty.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I see if I does on Instagram, She's like, she's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: all white.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I had a moderate performance weekend, but I did go
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to indoor summer netball on Saturday morning, and I sat
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and I chatted through the whole game, which was great.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: But interestingly, oh and while I've got you here, Brianie,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you for some advice. So you
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: may have heard that my little under twelve team did
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: not thrive this year. We came home with one draw
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: in the final game, which was honestly like winning a
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: World cup, is how it felt. I did cry.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I was very exciting.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But I had four of those girls playing in the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: team on the weekend in this indoor comp and we're
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: playing with the team. The rest of the team are
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: girls who are much better than mine. They're all the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: reps and development plays. But my four got in there
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: held their own. Yeah, it's great, And this is what
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: puzzled me all through the season. It's like my team
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: weren't hopeless. They just didn't come together as a team.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, when you've got an hour a week,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: which I extended to an hour and a half a week,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know their skills were right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: We were doing that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: But it's like, when you've got a team who aren't
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: doing what they need to do in the moment, what
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: can you do as a coach, like, what's your You know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: swearing didn't work. Apparently you just.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Wish for the best sometimes, you know, I've had a
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: couple of those seasons where all the training is perfect.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I've started a game and I've looked at my
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: assistant coach going. People in this stadium are going to
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: think that we have not trained once, and I really
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: want to hold up a sign and say, look, we've
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: been working hard.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: It's would you like a sign that says not my fault?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: When the two.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Might just hold it up without even smiling to the
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: crowd that they could, they just slowly hold it up,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: put it down. Because there are moments where, probably in
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: the semi final this year, that I did want the
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: ground to open a meter.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe those big foam fingers that they have
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: at stadiums, maybe you could get another one made with
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a different finger. I can just use that for the audience, for.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: My team or for the audi crowd.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's just back off, we're doing our best.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Right When you in that semi final, I know we
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: were supposed to have sort of closed off talking about netball,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: but you know you mentioned it as in that last
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: quarter as like could you did you just feel like
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: it was almost inevitable as the Vixen's came back, or
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you really like, oh, look they're coming back, We're okay.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: My gut was like, oh, this is not going to
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: end well.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: We've got half the Diamonds team that have just started
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: to decided just to click into gear.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I was like, with the I don't know about this.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: That's exactly how I felt.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I was like, come on, come on, it's just one goal.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Surely we can hold this out. That's what I was thinking.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: But I thought Vixen's I was like, look at the
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: team you have, like full credit, you're an amazing.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: You must have been so proud after the girls the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: week before, like that that what they had suffered the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: week before with the fever, to be able to come
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: back and put that on on court, like you must
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: have just been bursting with bride.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It was a shame. I think it looked to me
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like the right outcome for that game. At the Vixen's,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I think deserve to win it, and clearly we saw
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what they went on and did. But I was just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: so happy for the Swifts that they came back and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, you girls, you had a rough week last week,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: but you've put that behind you. You must have just
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: been bursting with pride at that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I feel like getting beaten by walls at thirty five
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: whatever it was, that is tough. And to turn back
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: up on Monday and go, what are we going to do?
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: You know, same same but different in terms of we
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: know we're great netballers, we can play this game. How
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: do you get them back into a space of we're
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: doing this? This is that's gone, this is moving forward.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: And you know, I am super proud because you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: three quarters that game we're ten up to come back
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: from against world's best, and I think what it's done
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: is giving me real confidence for next season to go
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: we finished off like this. I think you know I
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: said it a thousand times. People forget that grace WEEKI
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: is twenty three. You know, world's best shooters are not
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: the world's best when they are twenty three.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: So all those little things.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: I was really proud, the fact that, you know, heartbreaking, heartbreaking,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: but you know, you learn a lot from those sort
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: of losses and moving forward.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So do you guys, when when you get the team back,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: do you sit down and look at that game or
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: is it done and dusted. Have you dealt with it?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And going like what do you do about to sort
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: of underline it and move on?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like maybe the leadership group and us
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: as coaches will look at that and go, what are
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: key moments or key thoughts that we can take moving
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: into next season because a lot goes on right from
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: July we finish until we play until March.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I'll be like, you're going to take us back to
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: that game in July like that we certainly.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Moved on and wanting to know, you know, like today
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting here thinking.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Like refreshed, I'm excited. What can we do?
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: And that's what I need to take into when they
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: come back in you know, November, December, January, because it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: all scattered, right because players, different players come.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Back at different times.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think I have my full team together until
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: beginning of feb is when not really mid mid gen,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: depending on what Helen does with her the Roses.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Because what's first game sight the fourteenth of March or
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: something isn't Wow.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I think we probably have six weeks together as a
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: full full teen.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We do talk about a long off season, but
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: so much of that off season is taken up with internationals,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: and then they.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Have a forced break, right, they have to they have
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: to have.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Time away, So you've got to factor that in that
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: some players need their break and their break will be
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: in November December, so.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, right. And then some players like the girls
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: who aren't playing internationals, have they already had their break
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and they're back now.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: No, they'll be back mid October for the Swifties, which
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: is not that far away, right, But we won't touch
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: a netbule until November. It'll be in the gym, conditioning
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: and in the gym. And then we try, like when
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: we think about we're talking about it today, try and
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: keep them fresh. They don't want to be coming to
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Netball Central every day from now until March, so just
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: mixing up our venues or go and train all that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Sort of thing.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of them were out at associations
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: on the weekend, grand final presentations and things. That's great.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that going back and connecting with the
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: grassroots and remembering why you play.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that like that ball
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: has that you know, some other competitions don't write. There
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: is there's a straight line from the grassroots through the
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: super netball and the into the diamonds. But it's interesting
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: to talk about, you know what the plays on court
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: straight away because it's a long sort of preseason. I'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: just wondering maybe if you can reflect on, you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: some of the coaches who influenced you. And there's two
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: that really stand out to me. One is the great
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Carol Sykes, you know, who was your underage coach and
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I used to play back in the days we were
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: played state league. I played for Kareinga and we used
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: to our our enemies were ram Week and Carol was
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the coach and my husband used to go along and
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: not watch the game. I used to watch her because
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: she was so entertaining on the sideline right, And so
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I reflect on her and then Mark Corbett, who sadly
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: passed away recently, and the thing and I never got
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: coached by Carol, but so I saw her from a distance.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: But I was coached by Mark and she had a
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: team in the new South Wales team that was like
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I came in at the tail end of there was
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: a bit of a dynasty and I think we won
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: like ten national titles in a Royals that's the Golden Boot.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: The Golden Boot. Yeah, so back in the day, in
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: the late eighties and sort of through to the mid
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: nineties or actually in the early eighties, it was sponsored
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the whole it was sponsored by Dunlop and we used
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to play for the Golden Boot. It was a trophy
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: that was I mean, I don't think it was pure gold.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Might have been I don't know, well, I might have
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: been a shoe sprayed with gold paper.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Here Lizzie, actually Wales, it's here somewhere.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you're mission today is to take a photo,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: said it to Caroline so she can put it up
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: on the Facebook page. So that'd be great. But Corby
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: used to get like so that team was just full
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: of like umbell ever players like Nick Cuzak, Carrissa dalwood Is,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Chris Tom's, Keiley Devy So Kenny, Sharon Finn and Unbelieving
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: wore News South Wales team Katrina Wag. Everyone came in
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: together and by the time we got to nationals everyone
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: had played like state league internationals and so she would
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: often like my first year in we did no netball training.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: We just went and trained with Johnny Lewis. Remember the
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: boxing trainer. We just did a month of boxing training
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and then a few netball drills at the end, and
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: then the next time I came in, she had us
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: doing this sword fighting like she would just always do
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: things out of the box. So now that you're we're
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: in a different era, right, a professional area, do you
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: still look for stuff like that? Do you still channel
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Corby or Psyche and and just go, you know, what
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: would Carol do? What would Corby do?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: So Carol for me was all about feel and passion
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: for the WARRITI and she was all about the basics.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: So her she I don't think she was strategic, strategic,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: but very much aligne along the lines of I remember
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: playing for her and I think they changed the rule.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: About your foot on the line or being back off
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: the line, and she's.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Like, if any of you get a call about your
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: foot on the line or you break stuff, you you'll
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: be off. And I think I broke on the first
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: center path and I could see her fist.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: At me, like shaking stuff you, Brian. She used to
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: say stuff all the time. That was her like way
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: words to us.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: When you're sixteen, we explored her because you knew exactly
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: where you stood with her. It was like you do
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: the basics or you're out of here. But at the
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: end of those nationals, I think she lived in Sutherland
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: and a group of us from the Hills District got
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: on We were like, we really missed you, Carol. So
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: we got on a bus and a train and we
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: went to her house after Nationals because it was so
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: down that we weren't going to see her. Because she
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: was with the seniors. She was just like loving it, lorgeous,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: she was divine. And then Corby, I think, yes, we
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: do challenge them, you know, channel her sort of Even
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: today we're saying, do we go and do a judo
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: session because.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It's all about abs and strength and.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard so many stories about Corby just being
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: you know, twenty years ahead of the coaching world in
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: terms of how she thought, like doing dance classes for
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: your footwork, and you know people still.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Talk about that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: So you know, she was way ahead of her time
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: in terms of high performance and thinking.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: And I think she should get more credit for that
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: in the coaching world.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think people speak enough of Corby's achievements and
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: what she's done in sport.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I agree, and she sadly died this year just before
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: the state championships, and so I think her niece got
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: up and spoke about her in the opening ceremony, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I was there and I was just reflecting thinking about
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: how she just changed. Like the great coaches are the
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: ones who step outside and think really differently. Joyce Brown
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: was like that, you know, Joyce. One summer she went
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: to the tennis and hand tied with a stop watch
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: every tennis player when they started moving with their feet
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and when they stopped, and then got all of her
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: players and watched us and did a hand timing as
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: well to give us like the correlations. And then she
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: went away and made a heap of footwork drills based
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: on the data. Right. And so now as a coach,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: of course, every coach wants data, and she was manually
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: collecting her own data across different sports. Now you just
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: in put it into a software package and it would
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: get spat out. But Joyce like she really yeah, like
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: she but she really sat back as she really thought
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: outside the square. And I do wonder, and you might
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: be the best place to sort of to talk about this,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: but I wonder if like the drive to professionalism puts
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: players and coaches in boxes that you're almost you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: to fail, right, so you don't step outside. It was
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: back in the day Korby had the freedom to do
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: that because you know, it wasn't a full time on
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: professional sport. She could go away and try something and
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: if it didn't work, well, she had a good enough
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: team that they'd probably sort of figure it out. So yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I wonder if I wonder if we can still if
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: we still have the ability for that to happen.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we do.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: I think like even with our you know, when someone
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: new comes into our environment, why do netballs just automatically
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: stand on the baseline, like, go stand on the baseline,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: like everything's just.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: So netball, Like I always joke about it, Oh.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: So netball, Like if you can think something differently besides that,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: let's try it, like go dot on the sidelines and
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: run across that way, like it's so simple.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: But you have a.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Pageadley's like, oh my gosh, do I have to go
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: stand on that baseline again? But just thelighter netball. It's
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: just like this traumatic experience in the off season. But yes, Lizzie,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I think there is still space for that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Well, Briani You're welcome to use my patented mcflurry method
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: if you would like to. I don't think it really works,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but you might. You might find that it works better
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: where you've got people who are winning games. You must
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: be a little bit worried about Grace.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: White at the moment, though I certainly am.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: For sure that was she took a big fall this morning, masterly,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: so we're sort of still waiting for some news on
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: the early hours of the morning.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I think there now.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: So so this is in relation to the World With
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Cup which is underway in Gibraltar and Australia have had
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: two wins from their first two games, which is really exciting.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But again, the game against Singapore, I think this morning
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Grace White took a nasty fall, which I think Daryl's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: posted it on our Carolyn did you post I don't know.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know who's Darls posted on our face.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: He's way ahead of me.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: But yes, so, Brian, do you look at that and go,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I do.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: First and foremost I feel for her, just you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: the thought that she may even not be able to
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: finish the tournament is big. The thought that she's had
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: an amazing year being part of a World Youth car
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: power exciting. So yeah, I think we'll just wait and
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: see at the moment how bad that is. But the
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: fall did definitely look nasty. It was in the first
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: quarter of the game. It's not looking great.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: What's the head injury protocol here? What's the concussion process?
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: So normally in sun Court superfle you do a think
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: called a SCAP test and beginning either of your doctor
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: and it's basically a baseline of all testing like count
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: to ten, you know, say the months of the year backwards,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff. So she would have come
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: off that court straight away with the doctors and done
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: that SCAT test and reviewed it. I'm not sure, depending
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: on probably the campaign lengths, right, so sun Court I
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: think would be two weeks, not quite score. What the
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: exact rule is in World Youth cut depending on games
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: and how long it goes for.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the finals on the twenty eighth of September.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah, six days, that's not that's not even
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a week.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: She's got headaches, if she's feeling sick, all that sort
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: of stuff, so it'll be symptoms B and then the sket.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Test at the start, So do you guys do like
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: a like a baseline test at the start of every
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: season and the medical guys have access to that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and our medical staff are already in contact
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: with the Australian team as well. So there's a baselinees
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: on ams. It's called athlete management system that the staff
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: will be able to dial into and talk about her
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: baseline compared to her what she will be now.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So there's still two teams who haven't even arrived for
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the World Cup, So Zambia and Sri Lanka are on
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the verge of potentially being just disqualified from the World
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Cup because they've got visa issues preventing them from getting
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: into the country. And it's like, Liz, what that looks
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to me like a systemic problem that we need to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: think about if we're looking at a two year a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: World Cup every two years, it's like, you know, where
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we have countries like Australia and New Zealand where we
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: have these sophisticated albeit small organizations, but sophisticated and funded
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: organizations behind our national teams. It's possible, but like, are
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the countries who aren't as well funded in their netball space?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Is it realistic for them? To have a World Cup
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: every two years.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: There's something that probably needs to be taken into account.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I know World net Will have come out and said
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: that they would like to have a World Cup every
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: two years, and I understand their reasoning behind that, because
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you want to make sure you're continually creating content right
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: for broadcasters and sponsors and that sort of thing. But
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: it probably does point to the fact that I don't
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: know the ins and outs of this particular situation. What
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I have seen a couple of times pop up is
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: there's been visa issues for these two teams, and I
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: think they have been officially ruled out of the World
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Youth Cup. So it does point to the fact that,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you know, getting teams to into a major tournament is
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: an expensive exercise, and there are a couple of countries
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: who can afford to do it, and there are a
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: number of countries who can't afford to do it. So
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: that's all the thing that needs to be taken into account.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: But I'm gutted for those young players who've probably done
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: a heat the fundraising, oh yeah, to get themselves there
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and to not be able to play that would be
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: really sad, and it's a blow for that tournament.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Well, what a great chat.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: No one agrees with shiit chat for everyone else, But
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a great chat.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I mean what I do on the weekend?
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Guys really quickly, Oh please cleandcast and made you talk
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: about netball?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Do you have anything else you wished to tell us?
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: When it is the last time you did something for
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the very first time in the last six months.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: No, it's interesting. It doesn't happen that often, does it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It's great when it does happen. So what did you do?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Let's guess. Let's guess, Liz, let's guess she.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Can you give us a clue?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Dancing?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It's a sport? You a new sport?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Is it a team sport or an individual sport?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Sport?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Pickleball?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: It's something that I've never done in my life. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: didn't know the rules.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: I was like a child turning up to people that
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: have played like thirty years.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: It's played on an oval like a ground gruss cricket.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: You played cricket, No, not cricket. I got roped into
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: it and I arrived at the venue and saw another
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: team playing, and I thought, oh no, I'm going to
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: run away because it was so scary, thinking I'm going
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: to do something.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was doing. Did you play
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: with the bat?
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You play with the bat?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Oh? I was gonna say, if you got roped into it?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Is that a clue? Like? Was it tuger war? But softball?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Nice?
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: It was crazy. I was like, you want me to bat?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: I'm up for batting. I haven't even held a bat.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I don't even know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I held it like a golf club with an interlinked finger.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: This fry Well.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Just a friend that had said, look, just come and try.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: And she's a lawyer and she's got this way. You
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: can't say no to her. And I was like, okay,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: well I just come and try. And by the end
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: of it, I had the whole team saying, so you're
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: coming back next week, you're registering.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, really are you going on?
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know? And actually my husband is kind of
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: pushing me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: So I'm doing something else besides thinking about Netbull every
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: day and a bit different CrossFit.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: That's what you need to do coming She's not crazy.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: What do you think you'll be? Like, Well, you'll be
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: a picture or a batswoman or a fielder.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I feel like because I am the newbie. I'll just
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: do whatever I'm told. I don't know if I've I've
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: got any choice. They said go on the infield in
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: the middle and do the bases like no, No, the
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: outfield suits me perfectly, but I didn't realize that majority
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: of the hits go to where I was.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, and how's your arm? Are you a good thrower?
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: I can throw, that's one thing I can do. Okay,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: it's a little bit sore. I haven't done that for
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: a while, but it was so scary doing something for
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: the first time out of your comfort zone.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Did have to chew tobacco or is that the wrong sport?
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: No, that you probably do, but.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Just well, briany Akle, thank you so much for joining us.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I was so excited when Kat said that you were
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: available to step in for her. I haven't seen you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: personally in about five years, and we've still only seen
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: each other virtually. But it's a real, real thrill for
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Resort to have you here today and to honestly get
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: some mid court weight in this podcast, because go the middies.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Go Circle Ship. It's come on, it's too much.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Short statue of people.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Swindell, I'm Brandy.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Ekle ug lose Ellis Bye.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: This has been no dribvell Have a great week everyone Bye.