Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Teyana Taylor Talks 'Escape Room' Album & Short Film, Vocal Cords, Aaron Pierre, Co-Parenting +More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Don't every day waiting click yours up the breakfast club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done morning. Everybody is the
- 0:08Speaker 2: j en Vy just hilarious.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawa Rose
- 0:12Speaker 3: is here as well. We got a special guest in
- 0:15Speaker 3: the building.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Indeed, the bully is back period. She has to curse
- 0:19Speaker 1: me out in about a month.
- 0:21Speaker 4: By She is a very nice person who just knows
- 0:25Speaker 4: what she wants. She came in the room and literally
- 0:27Speaker 4: turns into Spiked and started to change the camera and
- 0:30Speaker 4: camera that makes her bully makes your boss.
- 0:37Speaker 2: But she hadn't curt you out.
- 0:39Speaker 4: You can't talk. I thought you couldn't talk.
- 0:40Speaker 5: I still can't. That's why she can't be that loud.
- 0:44Speaker 5: See that's what I'm saying. I need we need all
- 0:46Speaker 5: the tones to be down. You know, I wanted to
- 0:49Speaker 5: see y'all. I feel bad seeing everybody else and not
- 0:51Speaker 5: seeing y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be so dry.
- 0:54Speaker 5: Press because this is.
- 0:57Speaker 2: The way you press up because you can't talk back.
- 0:59Speaker 5: Yeah, because y'all his want to be up at nine
- 1:02Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning. And I just landed and I
- 1:05Speaker 5: was like, okay, yeah, this is not gonna happen. But
- 1:06Speaker 5: I wanted to be able to fully be able to,
- 1:09Speaker 5: you know, just chill, hang with ya, because y'all like
- 1:11Speaker 5: my family. So I didn't want to be anything that
- 1:13Speaker 5: was rush yeah, and we happy escape room. I'm taking it.
- 1:16Speaker 5: I'm taking it easy. My doctor said, I can talk
- 1:18Speaker 5: because you don't have to do all my autograph signs
- 1:19Speaker 5: and stuff. But she's just like, take it easy, you know.
- 1:23Speaker 3: So for those that don't know, why did you need
- 1:25Speaker 3: the surgery, what happened? Break that down of what it does.
- 1:28Speaker 5: So I have polyps on my vocal cords, and it
- 1:32Speaker 5: was actually really really bad. It looked like a pearl
- 1:34Speaker 5: just sitting on my like my vocal cords didn't even close,
- 1:37Speaker 5: so it was like air going down my vocal cords.
- 1:40Speaker 5: And that was kind of like what it was. So
- 1:42Speaker 5: if you notice even last week how gone my voice was,
- 1:45Speaker 5: and it had been happening for a while, but I
- 1:48Speaker 5: just thought, Okay, it's cold. I don't like being cold,
- 1:50Speaker 5: So anytime it's like cold, I think, I'm like, maybe
- 1:52Speaker 5: I'm just sick of something. But I don't really get
- 1:54Speaker 5: sick like that. So when I was recording the album,
- 1:57Speaker 5: I'm like, why is this so hard? Like maybe it's
- 2:02Speaker 5: the pain, you know what I'm saying. It's like maybe
- 2:04Speaker 5: I'm just singing my heart out and it's the pain.
- 2:05Speaker 5: And it's like, no, bitch, my vocal cords. It's like
- 2:07Speaker 5: really struggling, you know. And I think in the midst
- 2:11Speaker 5: of like recording and then dealing with personal life and like,
- 2:15Speaker 5: it's gonna be a lot of hurt, a lot of
- 2:17Speaker 5: trauma to the vocal cords, you know what I'm saying.
- 2:20Speaker 5: So I think doing both at the same time was
- 2:23Speaker 5: a lot.
- 2:24Speaker 6: When you heard that from your doctor, how scared were
- 2:27Speaker 6: you or like how nervous were you about like what's
- 2:29Speaker 6: the coming next?
- 2:29Speaker 5: I mean I was so scared because, you know, getting
- 2:31Speaker 5: a surgery, you know, literally two weeks before your album
- 2:36Speaker 5: drop is like okay, so really a week before the
- 2:38Speaker 5: album drop, I'm like, Okay, what am I gonna do?
- 2:40Speaker 5: First of all? Second of all, if I don't do
- 2:43Speaker 5: it now, I'm not gonna be able to have to
- 2:45Speaker 5: do it later and I'm not gonna be able to tour.
- 2:47Speaker 5: So it's like, do I do it now and shut
- 2:48Speaker 5: my ass up throughout this album and just get creative
- 2:51Speaker 5: and do like silent promo or like wait and then
- 2:54Speaker 5: not be able to go on tour, which I already
- 2:55Speaker 5: knew once the album drop. My supporters wasn't rolling with
- 2:59Speaker 5: me not going on tour, and you know, I have
- 3:00Speaker 5: the movie one batle after another. Then I got all's fair,
- 3:04Speaker 5: then I got ripped, you know ben in Matt. So
- 3:06Speaker 5: it's just like I can't be on like a worldwide
- 3:10Speaker 5: press tour for a movie and not be able to speak,
- 3:12Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, this is
- 3:15Speaker 5: really the only real time the album is done. Let
- 3:17Speaker 5: the album speak for itself and just do what I can.
- 3:20Speaker 5: And that's why I rushed to New York. So, you know,
- 3:23Speaker 5: doing all that press in New York that was in
- 3:25Speaker 5: the span of a day and a half. And you know,
- 3:27Speaker 5: I still had the listening parties with with my my
- 3:30Speaker 5: my day one fan, so I had to knock out
- 3:32Speaker 5: a lot in the day and a half.
- 3:34Speaker 2: And what was the reason? Did they say what the
- 3:35Speaker 2: reason was? Do they know?
- 3:36Speaker 4: Was it?
- 3:37Speaker 5: Yeah, just trauma to the vocal course. But that's something
- 3:39Speaker 5: that it takes like that takes over time to build,
- 3:42Speaker 5: you know. So they had to surgically go in and
- 3:44Speaker 5: get that outcause she's like, I can give you steroids,
- 3:46Speaker 5: but it's not gonna help. It's only gonna be thirty percent.
- 3:49Speaker 4: You know, even when you're saying it's not like you
- 3:51Speaker 4: like you.
- 3:53Speaker 5: Vocal cord, because it's like you still have look at
- 3:55Speaker 5: one thousand and one, Look at all the heavy rolls
- 3:59Speaker 5: I have to do. You know what I'm saying, have
- 4:00Speaker 5: to do heavy rolls and then you already know a bit,
- 4:02Speaker 5: just gotta do your voice. So it's just like I
- 4:04Speaker 5: gotta cry. But it's like, even though I don't yell,
- 4:07Speaker 5: I do have a deep ass voice. And even just
- 4:08Speaker 5: being from New York, we naturally talk loud. So imagine
- 4:12Speaker 5: just being passionate and like being in an emotional state
- 4:15Speaker 5: and crying out loud and just you know, it takes
- 4:19Speaker 5: a lot of that. Look what I've been through and
- 4:20Speaker 5: just even with the album and just with you know,
- 4:23Speaker 5: my past experiences in music, I've had a lot to
- 4:26Speaker 5: cry about. I've had a lot to scream about. Sits
- 4:30Speaker 5: your head and what you're doing and shut out you
- 4:32Speaker 5: know what's crazy. And I'm like Adam Zandler, like with
- 4:35Speaker 5: my children, they don't take me serious. Yeah, Like im
- 4:38Speaker 5: cause to see movies and then to have your own
- 4:40Speaker 5: little people that do the things that you see in
- 4:42Speaker 5: the movie when you was growing up. It's funny. I
- 4:45Speaker 5: don't take nothing serious, so it's never really like I
- 4:47Speaker 5: don't have that. That's not the dynamic me and my
- 4:49Speaker 5: children have. And honestly, all I gotta do is make
- 4:51Speaker 5: a face like I mean, they are so disappointed to
- 4:54Speaker 5: know that they hurt my feelings, you know what I'm saying,
- 4:56Speaker 5: So I don't even have to scream at them.
- 4:58Speaker 4: That's why I undertand why y'all always telling me to
- 5:00Speaker 4: grow up because you don't take nothing serious.
- 5:02Speaker 5: You know why. I know why because I play a lot,
- 5:07Speaker 5: but I'm also an impact. You play when it ain't
- 5:10Speaker 5: the time.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Sorry about it.
- 5:11Speaker 5: You play when it ain't the time. You know why,
- 5:14Speaker 5: because you are such an iconic voice. You have to
- 5:18Speaker 5: understand that your joke. People don't know how you play.
- 5:22Speaker 5: People don't know how you play, so then what you
- 5:24Speaker 5: say is like yeah, because even Charlotte and it's just
- 5:26Speaker 5: like Nigga, that's why your phone be getting called getting
- 5:28Speaker 5: cursed the fuck out because yo ass. And it's crazy
- 5:33Speaker 5: because even when we're on the phone personally, he plays
- 5:36Speaker 5: like that, but it's like he's like, na, I feel you,
- 5:38Speaker 5: but it's like the world don't know our dynamic. The
- 5:41Speaker 5: world don't know his personality. And you got to know
- 5:43Speaker 5: Charlottagne to know that he'll roast you all day, but
- 5:46Speaker 5: like love you so hard. You feel what I'm saying,
- 5:49Speaker 5: but it's just like everybody don't know that. So it's
- 5:51Speaker 5: like when you are playing with people's lives and you know,
- 5:54Speaker 5: ship not funny.
- 5:56Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, knock at off. I really
- 6:01Speaker 4: do love what your daughter said at the end of
- 6:03Speaker 4: the album. And it's interesting because you never really know
- 6:05Speaker 4: what somebody is going through, Like when was the moment
- 6:08Speaker 4: that you that you bounced back from everything you was
- 6:11Speaker 4: going through?
- 6:12Speaker 5: Well, you know you back, honestly I did. If you notice,
- 6:16Speaker 5: like you know the album is recorded in order, you know,
- 6:21Speaker 5: like the first half, well, the first three songs is
- 6:23Speaker 5: a song, then the next three songs is a song.
- 6:25Speaker 5: You see, we go from like heartbreak to like you
- 6:28Speaker 5: already know that after heartbreak that like rebound stage where
- 6:31Speaker 5: it's like I just want to I don't want to
- 6:33Speaker 5: be in love, I just want to feel. I always
- 6:35Speaker 5: want to feel something make me forget all this shit.
- 6:37Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about. I just want to
- 6:38Speaker 5: feel something. Then that next stage of like hold on
- 6:40Speaker 5: feel was just tingling a little bit bit. For going on.
- 6:42Speaker 5: This wasn't my being go card, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:45Speaker 5: And then you know, you start to just say, okay,
- 6:47Speaker 5: well we're here now, Okay, like let's let's let's throw
- 6:50Speaker 5: the bricks away, not walking around with bricks to build
- 6:53Speaker 5: the wall, Like I'm just gonna love fully allow myself
- 6:56Speaker 5: to do that. And then it's just like once you
- 6:58Speaker 5: find that person that helped you through that, now it's time.
- 7:01Speaker 5: Of course, you always want to do self work. But
- 7:02Speaker 5: like when you are being like handled a certain way,
- 7:05Speaker 5: it just makes you look at everything. Like Junia said,
- 7:09Speaker 5: you shine a little brighter, you know, the sparking your
- 7:11Speaker 5: eyes back and different things like that. So sometimes you
- 7:14Speaker 5: just need that inspiration to get back up. So I
- 7:16Speaker 5: was recording in real time. Yeah, I was recording here,
- 7:20Speaker 5: and the short film shows that. It shows it tells
- 7:23Speaker 5: that story right like it starts off and shout out
- 7:26Speaker 5: to Lakeith Stanfield. Oh my god, they killed that.
- 7:29Speaker 4: I'm married.
- 7:30Speaker 5: I can't be doing all that, but yeah, shout out
- 7:32Speaker 5: to him and then also all the monologues, right did
- 7:36Speaker 5: you right? Yeah, yeah, me and my partner Coco. You know,
- 7:41Speaker 5: we got our production company to Auntie's production and we
- 7:44Speaker 5: actually wrote this first, like in real time. I'm like,
- 7:50Speaker 5: this is how I wanted to go. So I've seen
- 7:53Speaker 5: a few people like complaining about the narrations, like oh,
- 7:56Speaker 5: it's just too much. But it's also because my visual
- 7:59Speaker 5: dropped late. So it's like it was this was always
- 8:01Speaker 5: a visual album for me first. However, I'm not complaining.
- 8:05Speaker 5: That's a good complaint to have because you know, people
- 8:07Speaker 5: don't really give me a chance in the music space,
- 8:09Speaker 5: you know, So it feels good to see people be like, oh,
- 8:11Speaker 5: well the song is too short, or the narrations like
- 8:14Speaker 5: it's just a but it even has some minority you
- 8:17Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like the number one R and
- 8:19Speaker 5: B right now like top ten overall, and it's just
- 8:22Speaker 5: like it feels good to be seen and heard in
- 8:24Speaker 5: that space, and you know, it feels good that people
- 8:27Speaker 5: are appreciating the movie, Like people's like, you know what,
- 8:30Speaker 5: I listened to the album first, and then when I
- 8:33Speaker 5: went to see the movie, was like, oh wish I
- 8:35Speaker 5: got to run this album back, you know what I'm saying.
- 8:36Speaker 5: So sometimes it's because it's an experience. It's it's a
- 8:39Speaker 5: it's a cinematic album, and it was always meant to
- 8:42Speaker 5: be that way.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Back to life on the album, right, so what back
- 8:46Speaker 4: to life? But there's something that said on that song,
- 8:49Speaker 4: how does memories?
- 8:50Speaker 5: It's she said, new Dick Memories is what I need?
- 8:54Speaker 5: Because if you know, if you because if you notice, okay, no,
- 9:01Speaker 5: because if you if you notice, y'all can't be making
- 9:04Speaker 5: me laugh like this. But if you notice, the song
- 9:08Speaker 5: starts out like you know, we're sad, and it's like, Nigga,
- 9:13Speaker 5: I feel like Jack dragged me up on that door
- 9:16Speaker 5: with you. You feel me like, nigga, you just gonna
- 9:18Speaker 5: let Jack drown, you know what I'm saying. But then
- 9:20Speaker 5: it's kind of like you you gotta get in that
- 9:21Speaker 5: space of wait, fuck is wrong with you? You fe what
- 9:25Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, because now this is dragging out a
- 9:27Speaker 5: little bit too long. You feel what I'm saying, like,
- 9:29Speaker 5: let's let's let's feed this up. So then Tasha Smith
- 9:31Speaker 5: coming and that one was actually a freestyle. She left
- 9:33Speaker 5: me a voice not I know that one was freestyle
- 9:36Speaker 5: she left me a voice not and she called me,
- 9:38Speaker 5: and it's just like, you know, these are all women
- 9:40Speaker 5: that running into them after something so public and so
- 9:44Speaker 5: humiliating and hurtful. You know, the woman that you ain't
- 9:47Speaker 5: gonta say two words? That's that come here? Mm you good?
- 9:53Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? And those are those are
- 9:54Speaker 5: the women that I leaned on. So it's like these
- 9:56Speaker 5: narrations are very special to me because these are the
- 9:58Speaker 5: women that gave me those silent hugs. Didn't have to
- 10:02Speaker 5: say a word, you know what I'm saying. So like
- 10:04Speaker 5: this is my experience and you already know I'm a
- 10:07Speaker 5: creative so I'm gonna overdo everything that I do and
- 10:10Speaker 5: I want to always, you know, give my all.
- 10:12Speaker 2: How difficult was it.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Doing this project because you I've known you a long
- 10:15Speaker 3: time and your personal life and outside of.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Music is very quiet.
- 10:19Speaker 3: You keep to yourself, but in the last couple of years,
- 10:21Speaker 3: your life is bounced there.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Now this album is your life. How difficult was that?
- 10:26Speaker 2: I mean that part in your life with the world.
- 10:28Speaker 5: Y'all know how difficult it was for me because you know,
- 10:31Speaker 5: I am a quiet person and I'm private just because
- 10:35Speaker 5: I've had shows and stuff like that. I mean, I'm
- 10:37Speaker 5: not a private person. I share what I want to share.
- 10:40Speaker 5: I've been up here a few times where you know,
- 10:43Speaker 5: I was already dealing with what I was dealing with,
- 10:45Speaker 5: and nobody ever even knew, you know what I'm saying.
- 10:46Speaker 2: So down because I came out like a week after
- 10:50Speaker 2: and you was, yeah.
- 10:51Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I held it down. And
- 10:54Speaker 5: you know, people get tired. People get tired, especially when
- 10:58Speaker 5: like others are being on your heart, when they know
- 11:01Speaker 5: your heart and they know the things that you know
- 11:04Speaker 5: push you to is they're gonna keep poking at that,
- 11:08Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And sometimes you bite the
- 11:10Speaker 5: bait and it is what.
- 11:11Speaker 2: It is, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:12Speaker 5: It's it's it's tough. You know what I'm saying, It's
- 11:16Speaker 5: very tough. And that's why I try my best to,
- 11:21Speaker 5: you know, just be as cordial as possible. Like I
- 11:25Speaker 5: don't be wanting no smoke, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:28Speaker 5: These kids come first, and that's been the main reason
- 11:31Speaker 5: why I've wanted to keep everything private, no matter how
- 11:35Speaker 5: ugly or how sweet, keep it keep it private. You
- 11:39Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And so my job is to
- 11:40Speaker 5: protect them no matter what. And I think that's where
- 11:43Speaker 5: like I keep, you know, just trying to hold on
- 11:49Speaker 5: and hold it down. But I think this album was
- 11:51Speaker 5: a beautiful way to express myself. And yeah, just just
- 11:56Speaker 5: move forward, just continue to move forward. What I know,
- 12:01Speaker 5: what I noticed was like, you've had a lot this year, right,
- 12:05Speaker 5: four movies, an album, and then your visual and then
- 12:09Speaker 5: your performance at the BET Awards. It was a lot
- 12:12Speaker 5: of press surrounding you whenever I've seen you on this outlet,
- 12:15Speaker 5: this outlet, that outlet, right, And it just seems like
- 12:18Speaker 5: it's a pattern, right, every time something drops with Tiana
- 12:22Speaker 5: is in the headline, so oh this movie, that movie, Right,
- 12:25Speaker 5: it seems that it's always something that is dropped on
- 12:30Speaker 5: Emand's side right where it's like, oh but this happened,
- 12:35Speaker 5: and it's something about the court or something about the divorce. Right.
- 12:39Speaker 5: Almost every single time one of your every single time,
- 12:43Speaker 5: is celebrated for something. But that was a part of
- 12:45Speaker 5: debate that I bit and I hate to even have
- 12:48Speaker 5: to talk about this. I don't want to make this
- 12:51Speaker 5: a long thing. But you know, that's even why I
- 12:54Speaker 5: hopped on live because it's just like y'all know how
- 12:57Speaker 5: quiet I am, and even when the other party be
- 13:00Speaker 5: dead ass wrong, I'm still defending, protecting all of the
- 13:03Speaker 5: things because we have a daughter on social media and
- 13:06Speaker 5: I don't ever want to be anywhere speaking down on somebody.
- 13:09Speaker 5: But people get tired at this point, JUNI, when you
- 13:12Speaker 5: get older and you want to ask that question, I'm
- 13:14Speaker 5: just gonna have to break it down, baby, because I'm
- 13:15Speaker 5: not about to keep being played with. You know what
- 13:17Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm not about to keep doing that just
- 13:19Speaker 5: on the strength of Oh, Tiana hate social media, so
- 13:22Speaker 5: let me poke on social media because I know she's
- 13:24Speaker 5: not gonna say nothing. I think that the live really
- 13:26Speaker 5: like woke niggas up, like, oh, you know what I'm saying,
- 13:31Speaker 5: because I would never do nothing like that, you feel me.
- 13:34Speaker 5: So it's just like, come on, this is crazy because
- 13:36Speaker 5: even with that, it's just like I'm sitting here defending
- 13:39Speaker 5: some shit that came out a year ago. But when
- 13:42Speaker 5: it came out and by the Vogue world, that shit
- 13:44Speaker 5: was going crazy, so it didn't stick. Then I do
- 13:48Speaker 5: I post a picture on Oscar Weekend, the same rumor
- 13:52Speaker 5: comes out, but now it's like really hitting differently because
- 13:56Speaker 5: it's assumed that I moved on, like, oh, she moved on,
- 14:00Speaker 5: but yo, she took this person for everything. And it's
- 14:02Speaker 5: just like now I'm being called out my name, like
- 14:06Speaker 5: I'm like wait what what? And then I took this,
- 14:09Speaker 5: I took that. I'm like wait what, I'm confused. You know,
- 14:12Speaker 5: it just seemed like you had to pay a seventy
- 14:15Speaker 5: thousand dollar bill for you defending yourself and it was
- 14:19Speaker 5: the best little coin I ever spent. I mean it.
- 14:22Speaker 5: But when I say I want to get put through
- 14:25Speaker 5: the batchere's peace as listen, people, it wasn't even the
- 14:33Speaker 5: technical stuff. It wasn't even the technical stuff. Why do
- 14:37Speaker 5: you try to talk softly? I just feel like.
- 14:41Speaker 6: The energy right now what you mentioned Junior, what questions
- 14:45Speaker 6: or how she asked you questions yet? Or like what
- 14:47Speaker 6: questions did she beginning to ask?
- 14:49Speaker 5: I mean no, she had to ask questions because I've
- 14:51Speaker 5: been holding it down. What I was saying was like,
- 14:53Speaker 5: I feel like because the people in my life know
- 14:56Speaker 5: that my children come first and that I don't like
- 15:00Speaker 5: social media, Like my social media anxiety is through the roof.
- 15:04Speaker 5: Imagine like dragging it to the point where I'm like
- 15:07Speaker 5: forced to do the thing that scares me the most,
- 15:11Speaker 5: so even being alive, having to speak my truth, not
- 15:15Speaker 5: just my truth, but the truth. Really it hurt me
- 15:19Speaker 5: to have to do that, and it hurt me to
- 15:21Speaker 5: have to do that because I reached out to that
- 15:23Speaker 5: person before I even had to do that. You feel
- 15:26Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So it was the reason why I
- 15:30Speaker 5: went on love was because like, well, like I've been
- 15:33Speaker 5: protecting you by staying quiet, and I'm like, well, that's
- 15:37Speaker 5: what I.
- 15:37Speaker 4: Mean, like just talking about when you go to him
- 15:39Speaker 4: and you say, look, man, I guess I'm not accusing you.
- 15:43Speaker 4: But every time I got some good shit coming.
- 15:44Speaker 5: Up, oh no, I mean, do one even better. I
- 15:46Speaker 5: thought we were. We were on great terms. So I
- 15:49Speaker 5: was like, hey, baby daddy because we was going to
- 15:50Speaker 5: the baby Dad baby mom. So I'm like, hey, baby daddy.
- 15:52Speaker 5: So something's coming back to me that you know, you
- 15:55Speaker 5: and your people is sending out stuff. I said, but
- 15:58Speaker 5: it's really hard to believe that because we're in a
- 16:00Speaker 5: really great space. And I kept saying that, like, we're
- 16:03Speaker 5: in a really really great space. So I don't see
- 16:05Speaker 5: what your angle would be. On top of the fact
- 16:07Speaker 5: that you know that what's being put out is not true,
- 16:11Speaker 5: and he's like, oh, nah, I thought it was you.
- 16:14Speaker 5: So then that's when I was like, well, what would
- 16:16Speaker 5: I gain out of looking like I took a black
- 16:19Speaker 5: man for all he got when you know, I spent
- 16:21Speaker 5: my heart or money on the things that I have,
- 16:23Speaker 5: and you too, like you know what's up? And then
- 16:27Speaker 5: he brought up some breakup shit from like, well when
- 16:31Speaker 5: you did da Dad back in twenty huh, how did
- 16:34Speaker 5: we get here? You feel what I'm saying. So then
- 16:36Speaker 5: he was like the only part I'm mad about is
- 16:39Speaker 5: that they didn't show boom boom boom. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,
- 16:43Speaker 5: I know where we staying, because why are you mad
- 16:45Speaker 5: about what part they did and did not show, which
- 16:47Speaker 5: means that who sent it? But with all the movies
- 16:50Speaker 5: I got coming up, and it's just like even being
- 16:53Speaker 5: in this business where a divorce gets ugly, you think
- 16:55Speaker 5: I want to be working with a producer that's holding
- 16:57Speaker 5: a venetta against me because he's like, well my wife
- 16:59Speaker 5: did the same thing. Oh I'm I'm not doing that,
- 17:02Speaker 5: And especially when you got to see certain money leave
- 17:03Speaker 5: you at counts like you try to do exactly what
- 17:05Speaker 5: I paid for that could affect.
- 17:07Speaker 4: You in Hollywood too, because you know these film people
- 17:08Speaker 4: are like, this is always drama every time we announced something.
- 17:12Speaker 5: But what did I say when I went all up?
- 17:13Speaker 5: I just wanted to be left alone. So even with
- 17:15Speaker 5: the seventy thousand dollars thing, I didn't, I wasn't held
- 17:18Speaker 5: in contempt for what I did. So them saying, oh,
- 17:21Speaker 5: Ymon had direct evidence. The only evidence was me going live.
- 17:25Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying if we really keeping it
- 17:27Speaker 5: a being. They were very technical and this part is
- 17:29Speaker 5: not this last court day, it was not sealed. But
- 17:31Speaker 5: let's look at the at the pattern. We went to
- 17:34Speaker 5: court July twenty fifth. This thing about me paying him
- 17:40Speaker 5: seventy thousand dollars or his lawyer seventy thousand dollars came
- 17:42Speaker 5: out a week before my album drop. This is when
- 17:45Speaker 5: hard Park came out with Joe and Jada and the
- 17:48Speaker 5: song was going viral and everybody was like, yo, this
- 17:49Speaker 5: song is fire. Now five minutes later, Gianna is ordered
- 17:55Speaker 5: she's held in contempt DA. So now I was looking like, oh,
- 17:57Speaker 5: so she went on live and live and it's like no,
- 18:00Speaker 5: it was technicality. Keep in mind, I don't even allowed
- 18:03Speaker 5: to defend a skit that he did, So you did
- 18:07Speaker 5: a skit. But then they pretty much said in court, yeah,
- 18:10Speaker 5: this the skit was back in June. The skit was
- 18:13Speaker 5: it was a few weeks after the divorce. So then
- 18:16Speaker 5: it was kind of like his lawyers argued that, well,
- 18:19Speaker 5: the person in the video said it. First of all,
- 18:21Speaker 5: his lawyer didn't even want to admit that the person
- 18:23Speaker 5: in the video stated an amount of money that was
- 18:27Speaker 5: being paid, right, But then once he got caught up
- 18:30Speaker 5: in that and he mind admitted that the person did
- 18:31Speaker 5: say that, then he was like, what did come from
- 18:34Speaker 5: Emon's mouth directly? So your evidence pretty much is objected.
- 18:40Speaker 5: And then I had a witness who came with actual
- 18:43Speaker 5: receipts that they were being paid to have a smear
- 18:46Speaker 5: campaign against me. You feel me, This is not Seal.
- 18:51Speaker 5: This is not Seal. The only thing I got in
- 18:54Speaker 5: trouble for was when we went into details about yeah
- 18:59Speaker 5: and stuff like that. You feel what I'm saying. However, again,
- 19:03Speaker 5: would I stand on and you already know I do
- 19:05Speaker 5: have a strong male fan base as well, you know
- 19:08Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And there was a lot of men
- 19:10Speaker 5: that were really hurt thinking that I did this to
- 19:13Speaker 5: another black man. I'm not rolling with that, which I
- 19:16Speaker 5: had a majority of people that's like, yeah, she deserved
- 19:19Speaker 5: like she deserved it. Get your coinsis and it's like
- 19:21Speaker 5: I could have just rolled that wave, but I'm not
- 19:23Speaker 5: okay with that because that's not the kind of woman
- 19:24Speaker 5: that I am, you know what I'm saying. So it's
- 19:26Speaker 5: just like, no, I'm gonna speak my truth because this
- 19:29Speaker 5: is gonna what's gonna happen When a movie premiere come out,
- 19:31Speaker 5: this is going this is gonna releak that Ohianna had
- 19:34Speaker 5: to pay em on seventy thousand, and then when this
- 19:36Speaker 5: magazine come OUTA had to pay you mon it. It's
- 19:38Speaker 5: every single time something amazing is going on in my life,
- 19:42Speaker 5: it's something about this divorce. It don't be nothing else.
- 19:45Speaker 5: I'm never in nothing and keeping mind of divorces already
- 19:49Speaker 5: a year old when the rumor redropped, So it's kind
- 19:52Speaker 5: of like, yeah, but let's not make it seem like
- 19:55Speaker 5: Tianna went to court and if I was holding Katana,
- 19:59Speaker 5: I would have been fine and or I would have
- 20:00Speaker 5: been jailed. It literally says in the papers that like
- 20:04Speaker 5: I have movies coming up so I can pay it
- 20:07Speaker 5: because he pretty much was in court showing his financial
- 20:10Speaker 5: situation and stuff like that. So it's kind of like
- 20:13Speaker 5: to pretty much punish me because I have to push
- 20:16Speaker 5: me up because of my accoladeses is insane. However, if
- 20:20Speaker 5: it's gonna give me my peace and we can be
- 20:23Speaker 5: done with this for good, I've sent that Why You
- 20:26Speaker 5: So Fast? I sent that Why You So fucking Fast?
- 20:30Speaker 5: That was the best little coin I ever spent in
- 20:32Speaker 5: my life because I never have to deal with this again,
- 20:36Speaker 5: and I will never allow a person to silence me
- 20:39Speaker 5: because that's I'm not no, I'm.
- 20:41Speaker 4: Not gonna ask you what exactly are you trying to
- 20:42Speaker 4: escape from with this project?
- 20:44Speaker 5: But boy, I know now I just want my peas
- 20:48Speaker 5: like where I was in that last song with Junie
- 20:50Speaker 5: en Route is where I want to stay. However, I
- 20:53Speaker 5: don't want to keep doing this pattern of every single
- 20:56Speaker 5: time something's going on, something else is dropping, and then
- 20:59Speaker 5: it's redropping like its brand like it's brand new. You
- 21:02Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying. So let's be clear. My evidence
- 21:05Speaker 5: was objected and they considered it. It's technically hearsay, she say,
- 21:09Speaker 5: like if it didn't come from from his mouth direct
- 21:12Speaker 5: or his phone direct he didn't do it, and it's like,
- 21:13Speaker 5: who the fuck is gonna leak something directly from their phone,
- 21:18Speaker 5: So don't make it seem like Tianna didn't have evidence,
- 21:20Speaker 5: because Tiana came in with a whole witness that had
- 21:22Speaker 5: the text messages that this is what it was. And
- 21:26Speaker 5: then also the skit was all over, which he deleted
- 21:28Speaker 5: the skit a few days before court. But that man
- 21:31Speaker 5: took Repollman. You had to get that lady. You had
- 21:34Speaker 5: to get that lady. Boo boom boom, And he like, exactly,
- 21:38Speaker 5: So why is it that I'm going on live to
- 21:40Speaker 5: defend that, Like, if anything, you're confirming stuff and then
- 21:43Speaker 5: now is a hearsay. If I would have known that
- 21:45Speaker 5: I could have somebody sitting next to me and speak
- 21:47Speaker 5: my truth without getting in trouble with it, I would
- 21:50Speaker 5: have had somebody sit next to me and say, hey,
- 21:52Speaker 5: say that I did this, I pay for this, I
- 21:53Speaker 5: pay for this, I pay for that boom boom, and
- 21:55Speaker 5: let that be that you have that piece now though,
- 21:57Speaker 5: But yeah, I do, I absolutely and I had that
- 22:00Speaker 5: piece even up until a week before my album and
- 22:03Speaker 5: then the rumor dropped and I'm just like so it's
- 22:06Speaker 5: gonna be continue to be a pattern, which it has
- 22:08Speaker 5: been for the last two years. And that's another thing.
- 22:10Speaker 5: People think that this divorce is only a year old. Baby,
- 22:13Speaker 5: We've been divorced for two years. So even say, oh
- 22:16Speaker 5: she moving too bad, but boo boom, it's just like
- 22:18Speaker 5: what you what you want me to do?
- 22:20Speaker 4: It's life?
- 22:21Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, because you know I don't I don't bother
- 22:26Speaker 5: nobody and most importantly I'm an impath, so I do
- 22:30Speaker 5: be getting caught up in a lot of like the
- 22:32Speaker 5: moment I think we cool, I'm like, you know, because
- 22:36Speaker 5: my muscle memory is like, you're my best friend for
- 22:39Speaker 5: eleven years, we still was married. We're not gonna rewrite
- 22:42Speaker 5: history like this didn't happen, you know what I'm saying.
- 22:44Speaker 5: So it's like my muscle memories still always have love
- 22:47Speaker 5: for him, and I'm not in love with him, but
- 22:48Speaker 5: still got loved for him, and that's still my family.
- 22:51Speaker 5: So like I came to you on some like hey,
- 22:54Speaker 5: what's up, like this is and you made it an argument,
- 22:57Speaker 5: so it's like, oh, you're still mad. You feel what
- 22:59Speaker 5: I'm saying, And even in court he admitted on the stand,
- 23:02Speaker 5: like I don't care about Saty has nothing to do
- 23:04Speaker 5: with me. Like it was very very nasty and it
- 23:06Speaker 5: was very hurtful. You know what's crazy. I get that,
- 23:10Speaker 5: And guess what, even through that, I still don't understand
- 23:12Speaker 5: and that that's my family, that's my family. I understand that
- 23:16Speaker 5: you're hurt. But at the same time, if you're hurt
- 23:18Speaker 5: and you're going to act that way, then leak that too.
- 23:21Speaker 4: You know. The hardest thing for a man admit is
- 23:22Speaker 4: just simply my feelings hurt.
- 23:25Speaker 5: I mean, but you know what, you know, the hardest
- 23:27Speaker 5: thing to do is admit that, like I lost this
- 23:30Speaker 5: fear and square, I'm hurt that I allowed myself to
- 23:33Speaker 5: lose this. You get what I'm saying. I'm hurt that
- 23:37Speaker 5: this did not go my way up that's it.
- 23:41Speaker 4: And talking about you know, let me have my piece
- 23:44Speaker 4: and get my back blown out in peace. Man was like,
- 23:52Speaker 4: God damn, did you have to.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Say that.
- 23:57Speaker 5: Being blown And now that would sitting on stand someone
- 24:01Speaker 5: I don't care about, Ain't you a little line? Ain't
- 24:07Speaker 5: nothing compared to him still stand someone I don't care
- 24:09Speaker 5: about our safety? And I was very consed. And then
- 24:12Speaker 5: he did admit that it was that him fouling emotion.
- 24:14Speaker 5: His motion had nothing to do with me going live.
- 24:17Speaker 5: His motion was saying I took the kids from him,
- 24:19Speaker 5: all that stuffy. He admitted that it was just retaliation,
- 24:23Speaker 5: like oh he he he. He did his one in court.
- 24:27Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying, and it was just like, okay, cool.
- 24:29Speaker 5: But how it works is just because it's in the
- 24:32Speaker 5: court system, don't mean that it is true. The same
- 24:35Speaker 5: way when he found that motion, he found it on
- 24:36Speaker 5: met gala Monday when I was hosting a carpet. So
- 24:39Speaker 5: it's a thing where yes, technically anybody would feel like
- 24:43Speaker 5: it's you, because even the proof that I had were actual,
- 24:48Speaker 5: you know, like fouls of him, his proposed plan for
- 24:54Speaker 5: the whatever the situation was, that could have only come
- 24:57Speaker 5: from his side. I don't have what you proposed. You
- 25:01Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying. So of course when you when
- 25:02Speaker 5: shit is coming to you, it was like you would
- 25:04Speaker 5: think that, okay, cool, I'm about to just I just
- 25:06Speaker 5: want to be left alone. I even made it clear
- 25:08Speaker 5: in court. I'm like, I never said I wanted to
- 25:11Speaker 5: demanda jail. I didn't even want legal fees. But you know,
- 25:13Speaker 5: when lawyers go at it, they gotta they want to
- 25:15Speaker 5: ask for the most I sit on the stand. I
- 25:17Speaker 5: don't want legal fees. I don't even want to be here.
- 25:20Speaker 5: And for real, I remember you getting online telling us, well,
- 25:24Speaker 5: not not us, but like the internet, like, yo, don't
- 25:29Speaker 5: play with my best friend. You feel me like remember that,
- 25:32Speaker 5: like she don't play with my best friend. That's still
- 25:34Speaker 5: my family, that's still my gun. And even this we
- 25:36Speaker 5: was and even at that point when I made that post,
- 25:38Speaker 5: we weren't in the best space. It's just he was
- 25:41Speaker 5: caught up in some scandal and it was just like, Oh,
- 25:43Speaker 5: everybody's gonna be looking at me like do do Like
- 25:45Speaker 5: I'm just I'm like, listen, I'm gonna do this so
- 25:50Speaker 5: you can do you in peace. Like I don't want
- 25:55Speaker 5: no parts of this because I'm here at you know,
- 25:58Speaker 5: fashion week, and I got to be around press. You're
- 26:01Speaker 5: putting me in a position where somebody can potentially ask
- 26:03Speaker 5: me about why you in this bathroom with these half
- 26:07Speaker 5: naked girls, or you know whatever. You feel what I'm saying.
- 26:09Speaker 5: So it's just like I don't even pop on the
- 26:12Speaker 5: internet unless I'm on the internet, protecting my family, protecting
- 26:17Speaker 5: my home. So reaching out to you to tell you
- 26:20Speaker 5: to stand up for me as I've done for you.
- 26:22Speaker 5: The fact that you couldn't take five minutes to stand
- 26:25Speaker 5: up for me, but you could take five, six, seven,
- 26:27Speaker 5: eight pages to foul emotion tens and thousands of dollars
- 26:31Speaker 5: a foul motion when it took five seconds to say,
- 26:33Speaker 5: this is cap me and Tianna is having. You know
- 26:36Speaker 5: we are great with our co parenting. She walked away with, well,
- 26:40Speaker 5: she walked away with. I walked away with I walked
- 26:41Speaker 5: away with we both put a lot of time, love
- 26:43Speaker 5: and money into boom boom boom like that took that
- 26:46Speaker 5: was You're gonna have to use your voice for that.
- 26:49Speaker 5: So to go in court and say I demanded you
- 26:50Speaker 5: to stand up for me. I didn't demand you to
- 26:52Speaker 5: stand up for me. But where I take accountability as
- 26:54Speaker 5: I bit debate, you feel what I'm saying because I
- 26:56Speaker 5: got poked and poked and poked and poked and poked
- 26:59Speaker 5: into our road And then it was just like he
- 27:01Speaker 5: knows that because I remember even when y'all had to
- 27:04Speaker 5: show y'all reality show, he is said in a confessional
- 27:08Speaker 5: that I think he was asked like what gets under
- 27:11Speaker 5: your skin? And he said, oh, seann't like what I
- 27:13Speaker 5: messed with on Oh you get into with you in
- 27:16Speaker 5: social media? Yeah, like they was like, what gets under
- 27:19Speaker 5: my skin?
- 27:19Speaker 4: Oh?
- 27:19Speaker 5: It was the GQ Couple's quiz and it was like,
- 27:22Speaker 5: you know, what do you do to get under my skin?
- 27:24Speaker 5: And pissed me off? And he was just like, get
- 27:26Speaker 5: into with you on social media. I know how to
- 27:28Speaker 5: piss you off, Like he know my social Like even
- 27:31Speaker 5: sitting here, y'all know my exact even before I come
- 27:34Speaker 5: up be like, oh my gosh, I don't like this
- 27:35Speaker 5: kind of stuff. I don't like mess you feel me.
- 27:38Speaker 5: So it's just like if you're saying that while we
- 27:39Speaker 5: happily married, what you what is your behavior? When you
- 27:43Speaker 5: hate me? What is your behavior? And we're not in
- 27:46Speaker 5: the greatest space. And the thing about it is, I
- 27:48Speaker 5: haven't told one lie on that live you feel me.
- 27:52Speaker 5: But it's just sad because, like I said, we have
- 27:55Speaker 5: children that's on social media and you don't care how
- 27:57Speaker 5: it looked at the expense of nobody. All that matters
- 28:01Speaker 5: is you And that's the part that's said. And honestly,
- 28:04Speaker 5: it was just like my last straw, like we communicate
- 28:07Speaker 5: on a parent talking app that all that texting over
- 28:10Speaker 5: the phone is dead, we talk on the app. Have
- 28:13Speaker 5: to do anything with these kids, and that's that. And
- 28:15Speaker 5: if you know, Junior have questions and that's just I
- 28:18Speaker 5: can't avoid that. I'm gonna have to have an adult
- 28:21Speaker 5: conversation with her because exactly she's growing up and then
- 28:24Speaker 5: eventually she's gonna get to age where she's dating and
- 28:26Speaker 5: she needs to know, like, you know, the power of grace,
- 28:31Speaker 5: but not letting people abuse your grace, because people will
- 28:35Speaker 5: abuse and use your grace, and people will bank bank
- 28:38Speaker 5: on your heart and they will bank on all of
- 28:41Speaker 5: that because they never knew it would be you.
- 28:44Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. But I'm listening to you talk
- 28:47Speaker 4: and I can hear the freedom, so it's like, damn,
- 28:50Speaker 4: you really did escape. Like this is like a whole
- 28:52Speaker 4: new chapter for you. You know, It's not a temporary chapter
- 28:55Speaker 4: that came from It's like.
- 28:56Speaker 5: A whole chapter. And that's why you see, like I
- 28:58Speaker 5: know people, cause it was a lot to take in.
- 29:00Speaker 5: People didn't some people from the few that I've seen,
- 29:03Speaker 5: didn't get the chance to finish the album. So they're like,
- 29:05Speaker 5: oh yeah, the album. Oh my god. It's like I
- 29:07Speaker 5: got to be in that space and it's like, no, baby,
- 29:09Speaker 5: you got to be in that space to be able
- 29:10Speaker 5: to receive it to move on to the next level.
- 29:12Speaker 5: Because the first what three songs you're in that you're
- 29:16Speaker 5: in that heartbreak. But then after that third song, after
- 29:19Speaker 5: after Tasha Smith coming here with the new Dick Memories,
- 29:21Speaker 5: the whole energy change felt like at that point you
- 29:26Speaker 5: had got to a point where you was like, I'm
- 29:27Speaker 5: not being sad no more imatly exactly. That's yes, That's
- 29:36Speaker 5: where that's where I was because again, even before it
- 29:39Speaker 5: was ever public, I was still protecting something that had
- 29:44Speaker 5: vanished a long time ago. You feel what I'm saying.
- 29:46Speaker 5: I was still holding it down and I was still
- 29:49Speaker 5: you know, doing that. So it's kind of like now
- 29:50Speaker 5: I was like, nah, like, oh, you're taking my kindness
- 29:53Speaker 5: for weakness, Like we can't, we can't do that. So
- 29:55Speaker 5: when you get to in your skin and always with Junie,
- 29:58Speaker 5: I'm in a whole nother space, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:00Speaker 5: And I never thought I'd be so excited to spend
- 30:02Speaker 5: seventy thousand dollars in my life, No, for real, But
- 30:06Speaker 5: it was a weight off my shoulders, you know what
- 30:08Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was like if here you go, baby,
- 30:11Speaker 5: here you go, and here you go because I'm gonna
- 30:14Speaker 5: get that back tenfold. You feel what I'm saying.
- 30:15Speaker 4: This album was also a love letter to air. Once
- 30:24Speaker 4: you get the buck, like you said, back to life,
- 30:26Speaker 4: it feels like you're giving yourself permission to love again.
- 30:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm giving myself a permission to love unarmored, you know.
- 30:34Speaker 4: But another thing, you can't just let the unarmored.
- 30:37Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, when we're guarded,
- 30:41Speaker 5: what do we guard ourselves with? We have all this gear,
- 30:44Speaker 5: we have all this army gear. We have we in
- 30:46Speaker 5: three hundred, we got the little shields and always on defense.
- 30:50Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying. And that's not like where
- 30:53Speaker 5: I am because I'm a lover, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:55Speaker 5: I love love, So I go into things like pridely
- 31:00Speaker 5: and ego lists and you know, like just full of
- 31:02Speaker 5: like I do want a fairy tale, and it's like
- 31:05Speaker 5: people joke on me because real and people joke on
- 31:08Speaker 5: me because yeah. But it's like you know, people, y'all
- 31:16Speaker 5: all have watched me grow up. So I think a
- 31:19Speaker 5: lot of times people get stuck with little Tiana. You
- 31:22Speaker 5: know what I'm saying and not realizing that I'm not
- 31:24Speaker 5: this aggressive person that people think that I am. You
- 31:28Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I wouldn't have been a wife
- 31:30Speaker 5: for ten years if I was that. Let's be clear,
- 31:32Speaker 5: you feel what I'm saying. So it's just like for me,
- 31:35Speaker 5: I love love, and I love to nurture and I
- 31:37Speaker 5: love to give. And as you can see with my
- 31:39Speaker 5: mom and my aunts, I've grown up around that's my
- 31:42Speaker 5: that's my muscle memory. I've watched the women in my
- 31:46Speaker 5: life take care of their men, protect their marriage, protect
- 31:50Speaker 5: their union, protect their tribe, protect their home. So that's
- 31:54Speaker 5: all I knew. So I don't know about pride and
- 31:56Speaker 5: ego and stuff like that. So it's just like, you know,
- 31:59Speaker 5: with me, the moment I was debting that I needed
- 32:03Speaker 5: that freedom to fully love again, but I knew that
- 32:06Speaker 5: when I started loving again that I wouldn't be guarded
- 32:08Speaker 5: me even trying to be tough. In the album where
- 32:10Speaker 5: I'm like she closed her heart and opened her legs,
- 32:12Speaker 5: it was just like, that's tell me you love me.
- 32:14Speaker 5: You don't have to meet it now and they can
- 32:15Speaker 5: tell me you love me. So it's like if y'all
- 32:17Speaker 5: really getting into Like what these interludes are saying. It's
- 32:20Speaker 5: telling the story of even when I tried to be guarded,
- 32:22Speaker 5: I still was a little I was a little yeah,
- 32:28Speaker 5: but because I don't know how to date. You know,
- 32:31Speaker 5: the majority of my career I've been married with you know, children,
- 32:34Speaker 5: I don't know how to date. So it's like all
- 32:35Speaker 5: of nothing for me. So it's like we all the
- 32:38Speaker 5: way go together. So how did that all away get there?
- 32:41Speaker 5: How did that happen? Because I know there had to
- 32:42Speaker 5: be a period of you healing first before you gave.
- 32:47Speaker 5: I mean I started the healing. I started the healing
- 32:51Speaker 5: before the divorce was even final. You know what I'm saying,
- 32:56Speaker 5: like that you have to start that. I knew that,
- 33:01Speaker 5: like with everything I had coming up, it was certain
- 33:04Speaker 5: things that I knew would take me out of character.
- 33:06Speaker 5: When I started biting the bait, I said, oh this
- 33:08Speaker 5: is I can't do this. I started praying more. When
- 33:12Speaker 5: I got heavy into my ministries is when life got heavier.
- 33:17Speaker 5: Because now your biggest enemy, you know, is the devil.
- 33:23Speaker 5: He gonna play, and he gonna play, and he gonna play.
- 33:26Speaker 5: So it was a faith walk. So I was like, okay,
- 33:29Speaker 5: let me give this another try and if this and
- 33:31Speaker 5: when I realized that, you know, you wanted me to
- 33:34Speaker 5: meet you at a certain level. If I'm up here
- 33:37Speaker 5: and you're trying to pull me down again, you're trying to,
- 33:39Speaker 5: like you know, like when you drowned somebody else, to
- 33:42Speaker 5: stay afloat. It's like I felt like I was in Titanic,
- 33:45Speaker 5: like I felt like I was in an asy So
- 33:46Speaker 5: you're gonna hold me down and stay afloat. I can't
- 33:49Speaker 5: do that. I can't do that. You know. I can't
- 33:53Speaker 5: do that to get up there. I don't know why,
- 33:56Speaker 5: but that's what I'm saying. You feel me. I did
- 33:58Speaker 5: see in a little recent video where they broke down
- 34:00Speaker 5: why they wouldn't have been able to both fit on
- 34:01Speaker 5: the thing. But let's let's forget that. Let's talk about
- 34:04Speaker 5: the iconic version of it. Baby, you let Jack drown?
- 34:07Speaker 4: Ever, why did you write them for your mom? I
- 34:10Speaker 4: feel like your mom should have been on this.
- 34:12Speaker 5: So what I was about to get into is this
- 34:14Speaker 5: album for me. Y'all know what I've been through, even
- 34:17Speaker 5: just in the music industry, I don't. I also don't
- 34:20Speaker 5: want to stay gun hold on. It's just being strictly
- 34:22Speaker 5: about relationships. I feel like this album is like a
- 34:25Speaker 5: universal charger. It's so many things that have wronged us
- 34:28Speaker 5: and have broke our hearts. You know, probably getting into
- 34:31Speaker 5: radio for you at a younger age, it's probably difficult.
- 34:34Speaker 5: Motherfuckers probably shut it on, you didn't believe in you. Like,
- 34:36Speaker 5: it's a lot of things that have We've all been heartbroken,
- 34:39Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and we've all had to
- 34:41Speaker 5: like navigate through that. And that's what this album is
- 34:44Speaker 5: is a universal charger, and you can plug it in
- 34:45Speaker 5: and you can customize it to what you've been through.
- 34:49Speaker 5: I've been in a lot of hands that has not
- 34:51Speaker 5: protected me, you know. So it's like whether this I
- 34:54Speaker 5: should have been walked up this deal, I should have
- 34:55Speaker 5: been walk away from this. I should have woke with
- 34:56Speaker 5: this relationship, this friendship, whatever, this circle is, fucking group
- 35:00Speaker 5: chat whatever. There's a lot of things we feel like
- 35:02Speaker 5: we should have been walked out from a long time ago.
- 35:05Speaker 5: I should have been jump hopped out this box. You know.
- 35:09Speaker 2: The most difficult song to do on the album and why.
- 35:12Speaker 5: Oh my oh, the most difficult song to do on
- 35:16Speaker 5: the album probably was hard part and it was and
- 35:24Speaker 5: it's so crazy because me and Brent was in the
- 35:26Speaker 5: studio and we did the hook. We did the hook,
- 35:30Speaker 5: and I left it. I never revisited it again. I
- 35:32Speaker 5: didn't revisit it. And then when it was time to
- 35:35Speaker 5: turn into album, they're like, yo, tee, you gotta throw
- 35:38Speaker 5: a verse on here, and I was just like, I'm
- 35:40Speaker 5: not ready. This is too much. I don't want to,
- 35:44Speaker 5: you know. And it's crazy because I wrote that verse
- 35:46Speaker 5: in like less than twenty minutes and I did it,
- 35:50Speaker 5: but then I didn't do no ad libs. So then
- 35:53Speaker 5: Lucky put his verse on there, and yeah, it took
- 35:56Speaker 5: me a long time to complete this song. You know,
- 35:58Speaker 5: it was very vulnus for me. Then I went in there,
- 36:01Speaker 5: and it's crazy because it was a very last song
- 36:03Speaker 5: I did before I completely lost my voice, which was
- 36:06Speaker 5: like the a libs and the runs and all that shit,
- 36:07Speaker 5: and then you know that was that it was hard,
- 36:10Speaker 5: and a lot of it was hard because in the
- 36:11Speaker 5: beginning when I did Long Time, we were dealing with
- 36:15Speaker 5: you know, mediation. You know, that's when it was real heavy,
- 36:20Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. It was very heavy, and
- 36:22Speaker 5: it was very one sided with the pettiness, and it's
- 36:25Speaker 5: just like, I just want to be cool and because
- 36:28Speaker 5: of my muscle memory, we'll get into it real bad.
- 36:31Speaker 5: Then the next day I'm like, still like, what's up?
- 36:34Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, this is my family,
- 36:36Speaker 5: Like you see, even on a lot of I'm like, yo,
- 36:37Speaker 5: that's really gang Like stop playing on me.
- 36:40Speaker 4: The hard part. You know you started off by saying
- 36:42Speaker 4: I got a few questions for you. She is getting
- 36:43Speaker 4: real confusion. Do you want this or do you don't?
- 36:46Speaker 4: So was there a period where you thought about not
- 36:48Speaker 4: going through with a divorce maybe?
- 36:50Speaker 5: See, So the thing about it is I found for
- 36:53Speaker 5: separation and divorce a few times, but I kept I
- 36:57Speaker 5: kept withdrawing because he kept saying he wanted to fight
- 37:00Speaker 5: for his family. So if you're saying you want to
- 37:01Speaker 5: fight for your family and then you're getting caught up
- 37:03Speaker 5: in another scandal, it's like, Nigga, I got a few questions,
- 37:07Speaker 5: do you want to do it? Because the thing about
- 37:08Speaker 5: it is you're not You're not fighting, And because I'm
- 37:12Speaker 5: a lover, I'm like, I want through the world. I
- 37:15Speaker 5: want it. I'm thinking it's like a movie, He's gonna
- 37:17Speaker 5: fight for it. And then I realize that it's just
- 37:19Speaker 5: words that's not leaving the paper. You know, I needed
- 37:23Speaker 5: it to leave the paper. I needed the words to
- 37:25Speaker 5: become actions. Because once I decide to forgive you, I
- 37:28Speaker 5: give you a clean slate. I don't hold on to grudges.
- 37:31Speaker 5: I'm we'll hold on to a grudge. I'm as well leave.
- 37:33Speaker 5: So when you say I want to fight for my family,
- 37:35Speaker 5: this is what I want. I'm gonna give you an
- 37:38Speaker 5: opportunity to fight for your family. So when you're not
- 37:41Speaker 5: fighting for that, it's kind of like, okay, baby, what
- 37:44Speaker 5: what do you want to do? Because now it's just
- 37:46Speaker 5: kind of like you're hanging on to something. But then
- 37:50Speaker 5: you pillow talking like you going through something. You're not
- 37:52Speaker 5: going through nothing for real. You know what I'm saying,
- 37:55Speaker 5: Like you're not going through nothing for real. Life is
- 37:57Speaker 5: not bad. And it's like for you to even be
- 37:58Speaker 5: okay with people thinking that I talked to you crazy,
- 38:01Speaker 5: I treated you crazy, boom boom boom, like you would
- 38:04Speaker 5: have been you would have been dipped. Nobody was in
- 38:07Speaker 5: those shackles. I wasn't even in shackles. So it's kind
- 38:10Speaker 5: of like, but you know, in marriage, you don't just
- 38:13Speaker 5: walk away from something you know what I'm saying. You
- 38:15Speaker 5: got to exhaust all options. You got to put in
- 38:17Speaker 5: the work, you know, because honestly, even the court will
- 38:21Speaker 5: force you to go to counseling first and come back.
- 38:23Speaker 5: So before we even got to that, it's like okay,
- 38:25Speaker 5: let's you know. So he would try to avoid that
- 38:27Speaker 5: part and I'm like, listen, before we can move forward,
- 38:29Speaker 5: we really got to sit on a couch. You really
- 38:32Speaker 5: got to sit on a couch. He didn't want to
- 38:35Speaker 5: do that. That's when difficult. That's when an argument started,
- 38:38Speaker 5: Like if I would have just stayed, we would building
- 38:41Speaker 5: this relation to me and mom will still be together,
- 38:43Speaker 5: still going through all types of bullshit. I had to
- 38:47Speaker 5: really stand on business and say, listen, we either got
- 38:51Speaker 5: to sit on a couch or it's just not I
- 38:54Speaker 5: can't trust that this is going to work if we
- 38:57Speaker 5: don't get the proper help. That's not what he wanted
- 39:01Speaker 5: to hear. All hell broke lose.
- 39:06Speaker 4: Therapy. You gotta be will especially if you're trying to,
- 39:08Speaker 4: you know, fight for your marriage. You got to be
- 39:10Speaker 4: willing to do the work on yourself.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Never in this cycle.
- 39:12Speaker 5: You have to.
- 39:12Speaker 6: By the end the hard part, I felt like you
- 39:14Speaker 6: had finally got to that point where you was like,
- 39:16Speaker 6: you know what, Look, I can't do this. I'm numb
- 39:19Speaker 6: I And that's what it was for you.
- 39:22Speaker 5: I did not go to the it was. It was
- 39:25Speaker 5: more than that. Like and you know, like I said,
- 39:27Speaker 5: I'm a private person. I'm not. I'm not going to
- 39:29Speaker 5: get into detail. But when you are trying to elevate
- 39:32Speaker 5: and you are trying to move forward and grow, you
- 39:37Speaker 5: gotta be willing to grow with me. If you're going
- 39:39Speaker 5: to be stagnant, I can't sit there and be stagnant
- 39:42Speaker 5: with you. You know what I'm saying, because one thing
- 39:44Speaker 5: about it is misery loves company, and I was not
- 39:47Speaker 5: willing to be the company to that misery. I was
- 39:50Speaker 5: not willing. I have work to do. We all have
- 39:53Speaker 5: work to do. You feel what I'm saying. But my
- 39:56Speaker 5: work consists of me to walk into keep moving forward.
- 40:01Speaker 5: So it's either move forward with me or I got
- 40:03Speaker 5: to leave you behind. It's not serving me, it is
- 40:06Speaker 5: not loving me, is not seeing you have to go
- 40:08Speaker 5: where I'm serving love.
- 40:09Speaker 4: We spoken about this album. Yes, so hard part goes
- 40:13Speaker 4: in the back to life. You want some life. I'm
- 40:15Speaker 4: really trying not to.
- 40:19Speaker 6: What you can said girl, because that's how it talking to.
- 40:25Speaker 4: You go from a hard part to back to life,
- 40:27Speaker 4: and then it's like tis to kind of put the
- 40:29Speaker 4: battery in your back, like no, but.
- 40:30Speaker 5: Sometimes you need that, you know, but sometimes, but sometimes
- 40:34Speaker 5: it's also reminding yourself of who you are. And again,
- 40:37Speaker 5: I think a lot of the songs are double entendres.
- 40:39Speaker 5: Like when I wrote wrote that with Rico Love, we
- 40:41Speaker 5: weren't thinking about, oh yeah, I'm about to go fuck
- 40:44Speaker 5: on this nigga, that's not no. I'm just saying in general,
- 40:49Speaker 5: like because honestly, Rico had to convince me to do
- 40:52Speaker 5: that song. Y'all know, I'm a love girl. I don't
- 40:54Speaker 5: even make songs like that. And maybe I want to
- 40:56Speaker 5: say back to life in long Time was a hard
- 40:59Speaker 5: song for me to do because I'm like, no, that's
- 41:02Speaker 5: too mean, that's too I don't like that kind of stuff,
- 41:06Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But then it's just like,
- 41:08Speaker 5: this is my life, what I'm going through, and He's
- 41:10Speaker 5: just like, no, like you can you can discuss your
- 41:13Speaker 5: life and have fun with it. So I wasn't even
- 41:15Speaker 5: thinking about you know, I hadn't even known, like I
- 41:20Speaker 5: I wasn't even like dating yet when I did long
- 41:23Speaker 5: time and back to like, but it took me a
- 41:26Speaker 5: long time to finally go back and re record them.
- 41:29Speaker 5: So a lot of songs I revisited when I actually
- 41:31Speaker 5: felt it.
- 41:32Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, How do you make sure
- 41:35Speaker 3: that the trauma from that relationship you don't bring into
- 41:38Speaker 3: the new relationship because.
- 41:39Speaker 2: It would make you guard it, like you would feel
- 41:41Speaker 2: like you have to keep.
- 41:42Speaker 3: Your eyes open because you know, at one time you
- 41:44Speaker 3: completely trusted, you completely, gave everything, you completely. This was
- 41:48Speaker 3: the guy that you made sure that was like now
- 41:50Speaker 3: he got me, but obviously it didn't. So how do
- 41:52Speaker 3: you make sure in your new relationship that you keep
- 41:55Speaker 3: your eye open or you do something?
- 41:57Speaker 5: That's a good question. How I look at it is
- 41:58Speaker 5: like I said, you know, by the time I walked
- 42:01Speaker 5: away from my marriage, I was already on my journey,
- 42:04Speaker 5: on my heeling journey. I was already you know, holding
- 42:07Speaker 5: myself accountable to show up for myself and because I
- 42:11Speaker 5: love love, the goal was this is not working because
- 42:16Speaker 5: it must be something bigger in store for me. You
- 42:18Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, clearly God is like okay, cool.
- 42:21Speaker 5: So this happened and you're still there, and I ain't
- 42:24Speaker 5: gonna do the work for you. Now, you got to
- 42:25Speaker 5: figure out when you're going. You know, a lot of prayer,
- 42:28Speaker 5: a lot of conversations. You get what I'm saying. So
- 42:30Speaker 5: it's like leaving. It was realizing that, you know, people
- 42:36Speaker 5: will say small things. It's the Monica Sandu up there,
- 42:38Speaker 5: I fuck you up. I'm like, wait what Yeah, it's
- 42:43Speaker 5: like crazy, iconic, iconic love my girl, Momo.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Got your sneakers up there because at the crib.
- 42:50Speaker 5: Okay, I got you. I'm my second sneaker about to
- 42:53Speaker 5: come out, so I got your no. But yeah, it's
- 42:56Speaker 5: like at that point one time I felt so low
- 43:00Speaker 5: that a person could just be like, oh my god,
- 43:03Speaker 5: your here looks really nice. I'm like, oh thank you,
- 43:08Speaker 5: oh my god. Yeah, because I'm a lover, like I don't.
- 43:11Speaker 5: I don't. I've never been a guarded person, like, never
- 43:15Speaker 5: been a guarded.
- 43:16Speaker 4: Person, sure person, at least from what you think about.
- 43:19Speaker 5: Insecure. It's when you give everything feels beautiful. Yeah, like
- 43:24Speaker 5: I know who I am, I know what I am,
- 43:26Speaker 5: but those small things, those small things mean the world.
- 43:30Speaker 5: When you're not receiving that, you get what I'm saying,
- 43:32Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, as a woman, yeah,
- 43:34Speaker 5: we know who we are. But when we love our
- 43:36Speaker 5: nigga like we love our man, like his praises means
- 43:41Speaker 5: the world. I got eighteen million followers that can tell
- 43:44Speaker 5: me I'm beautiful all day every day, But that's not
- 43:46Speaker 5: who I want to hear it from. You know what
- 43:47Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, I honor my man. You know, I
- 43:50Speaker 5: serve my man. So it's a week who sees me
- 43:53Speaker 5: makeup and exactly the exactly, So imagine being like, yo,
- 43:58Speaker 5: I got my first big we rolle people gonna take
- 44:00Speaker 5: me serious? Da da da, and I'm arguing with you
- 44:04Speaker 5: every day. I got a five am call. No I'm not.
- 44:07Speaker 5: I'm not doing that.
- 44:08Speaker 4: I do love a long time. When you say you're
- 44:11Speaker 4: out here stressing your blessing, that's a powerful line like
- 44:14Speaker 4: don't scratch, don't be stretching your blessing.
- 44:16Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like because they don't have to be
- 44:19Speaker 5: that way, you know what I'm saying, And we could
- 44:21Speaker 5: still very much be cool. Like you know, there's been
- 44:24Speaker 5: times were like y'all about to go for this job.
- 44:26Speaker 5: I'm like, you got this we claiming this shit, Like
- 44:28Speaker 5: I'm I don't know if people get upset with how
- 44:32Speaker 5: quickly you're able to still have love for them. It's
- 44:36Speaker 5: like people hate that. It's like, bitch, what you mean?
- 44:38Speaker 5: So fuck that? Now it's I don't lie. It's just
- 44:41Speaker 5: like I've never had smoke or beef with Eman, never, never,
- 44:46Speaker 5: Like the divorce would have never even been out if
- 44:49Speaker 5: he didn't foul the motion to use our full and
- 44:52Speaker 5: legal names. Remember we were separated for a whole year,
- 44:56Speaker 5: so the divorce was quiet for a whole year until
- 44:58Speaker 5: he did that, which he did that on Thanksgiving. You
- 45:00Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying. So it's like again the pattern
- 45:03Speaker 5: of just like it's too much and it's maniputive, and
- 45:06Speaker 5: it's not cool because you got me out here looking crazy,
- 45:08Speaker 5: like when I took you for everything, And now this
- 45:11Speaker 5: new thing is, oh she got caught up in the loss.
- 45:12Speaker 5: Now she pays seventy I'm not paying nobody. That was
- 45:15Speaker 5: all technicality. I did the live. The consequence is like,
- 45:19Speaker 5: clearly I'm aware of what can possibly happen, but I'm
- 45:23Speaker 5: gonna pay that to speak the truth. It's bigger than
- 45:27Speaker 5: just oh, speak my truth. I'm gonna pay that to
- 45:29Speaker 5: speak the truth. I want my peace and I want
- 45:31Speaker 5: to be left alone. And then hopefully after this is paid,
- 45:35Speaker 5: nothing else comes out. So my new movie come out,
- 45:37Speaker 5: my new Jordan come out. We won't have this problem again,
- 45:40Speaker 5: right because if we do, then we know exactly what's
- 45:42Speaker 5: going on after today. I'm never speaking on this again.
- 45:47Speaker 5: I don't care what rumor he put out. I don't
- 45:49Speaker 5: care what rumor anybody put out. I'm never speaking on
- 45:52Speaker 5: this again. So if I don't respond, consider me in
- 45:55Speaker 5: my Beyonce bag. Your silence is golden and I'm gonna
- 45:59Speaker 5: keep it. Put shit. But yeah, that was a heavy
- 46:01Speaker 5: one to take, especially within a lot of business that
- 46:03Speaker 5: I am. You know, these divorces are very ugly and
- 46:05Speaker 5: I don't want to be on set with no producer director.
- 46:07Speaker 5: That's like because my wife did this, dude, and no,
- 46:10Speaker 5: I don't want her in this role. I'm telling you
- 46:11Speaker 5: it's it's a dirty game.
- 46:13Speaker 4: If somebody considering you for a role, they'll be like,
- 46:15Speaker 4: what she did?
- 46:17Speaker 5: Bad headlines gonna come, not even just headlines if you
- 46:19Speaker 5: sign her on. Look and say, if a director wanted
- 46:22Speaker 5: me to do a movie and he went through a
- 46:23Speaker 5: nasty divorce and he like his wife took everything. It's like, oh, nah,
- 46:27Speaker 5: she one of those I can't want some man power
- 46:29Speaker 5: ship and it's just like, now I'm getting punished with
- 46:31Speaker 5: some ship that I didn't even do. So as a
- 46:34Speaker 5: business woman, it's like, nah, I'm not I'm not rolling
- 46:36Speaker 5: with that because seventy thousand dollars I can make that.
- 46:39Speaker 5: I can make that back on the Instagram post. You
- 46:42Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying. No, but I'm trying to. I'm
- 46:51Speaker 5: just I'm just trying to find the smallest thing because
- 46:54Speaker 5: I can't say I can get that in a brand
- 46:55Speaker 5: deal because that's the way my brand deals is insane. Yeah,
- 47:00Speaker 5: but it's insane. Would be evidence but one thing I
- 47:03Speaker 5: want to But I mean that's literally like and that,
- 47:08Speaker 5: like I said, Instagram, that's like a story post. You
- 47:11Speaker 5: fee what I'm saying. So I'm like, yeah, I'm like,
- 47:13Speaker 5: that's the best little money I ever spent. I like that.
- 47:16Speaker 5: What is This is my my last question on that topic.
- 47:19Speaker 5: How is cold parenting? I mean cold parenting it's a
- 47:26Speaker 5: little tough because when things are going too good and
- 47:30Speaker 5: then someone make that go real bad, and it's just
- 47:35Speaker 5: like I said, it's like, I don't know why we
- 47:39Speaker 5: don't want to be nice, like I don't want no smoke.
- 47:44Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying. So it's just like I mean,
- 47:46Speaker 5: now I have it to where like it's literally just
- 47:50Speaker 5: on a talking parent app. It controls your tone, it
- 47:53Speaker 5: controls whatever it is. And honestly, at this point, if
- 47:59Speaker 5: it hasn't, if it don't have anything to do with
- 48:00Speaker 5: the kids, we don't have nothing to talk about. You
- 48:03Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying. I always to you Mom, I'm like, yo,
- 48:05Speaker 5: I'm doing Junior's birthday. I'm doing rouse birthday. Would you
- 48:07Speaker 5: like to for us to do it together? But boom boom,
- 48:10Speaker 5: and he'd be like, nah, I'm good. I don't want
- 48:12Speaker 5: to be that's fine. Like I don't entertain the shots
- 48:15Speaker 5: that are being thrown at me. I don't entertain, and
- 48:17Speaker 5: that okay, cool, here's the invite, here's the acts. If
- 48:20Speaker 5: you want to pop in cool, that's up to you.
- 48:23Speaker 5: Whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying,
- 48:25Speaker 5: Like the baby girls got activities, sports, you be practices,
- 48:30Speaker 5: you know, like I'm not. I'm not tripping. And even
- 48:33Speaker 5: to this day, like if he was like, yo, tea,
- 48:37Speaker 5: I want us to really stop being silly and like
- 48:40Speaker 5: let's really try and like healthily co parent. I would
- 48:44Speaker 5: absolutely be down. You know what I'm saying.
- 48:47Speaker 4: Why I got a couple of questions, Why why are
- 48:49Speaker 4: roles is so significant to your story? You got the
- 48:52Speaker 4: song better roses? You got a Rolls tattoo on your neck?
- 48:54Speaker 5: Like what about?
- 48:54Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 48:54Speaker 5: I mean I always say, you know them winds hit
- 48:57Speaker 5: different when you rose out the concrete. You know, and
- 48:59Speaker 5: be able to hear a rose rise of the concrete
- 49:01Speaker 5: is amazing and just the thorns and everything it's been through.
- 49:05Speaker 5: But I also feel like the thorns and the vines
- 49:07Speaker 5: is your tribe and the love that you're surrounded by.
- 49:10Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, There's so much, so many
- 49:12Speaker 5: moving parts. We see the rose and it's so beautiful,
- 49:15Speaker 5: but then it's like, what's keeping this rose alive? It's
- 49:17Speaker 5: the vines and you know, the thorns ready to grow
- 49:20Speaker 5: out new ones. So it's like it's always been special
- 49:22Speaker 5: to me, especially as I gotten older and really did
- 49:25Speaker 5: my research because you know, an album number one, album seven.
- 49:28Speaker 5: I used to hate roses because I wasn't mature enough.
- 49:31Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't understand what it felt like to
- 49:33Speaker 5: receive roses in a real way, you know, so like
- 49:37Speaker 5: really receiving them and understanding them. It's like, oh my god,
- 49:40Speaker 5: just named my daughter after the Rose. It was just like,
- 49:42Speaker 5: you know, to become a woman and to blossom, you know,
- 49:49Speaker 5: is what really made me like get into it really
- 49:52Speaker 5: really heavy.
- 49:54Speaker 6: I saw you say in an interview that what you
- 49:56Speaker 6: were going through before you retire it felt like punishment,
- 49:58Speaker 6: But now it feels.
- 49:59Speaker 5: Like it was the by timing. It was preparation. Wasn't punishment.
- 50:02Speaker 5: It was preparation for what was already written. Yeah, and
- 50:06Speaker 5: even through that, like dealing dealing with retiring and all
- 50:09Speaker 5: of those different things. I was dealing with a lot,
- 50:11Speaker 5: you know, postpartum you know, but also think that circumstances too,
- 50:20Speaker 5: because what got me out of retirement, you know what
- 50:22Speaker 5: I'm saying. I came back on my own terms, and
- 50:23Speaker 5: I came back happy, you know what I'm saying. So
- 50:26Speaker 5: it's like, what if I was in a space where
- 50:27Speaker 5: I was still stagnant in a certain space, I would
- 50:30Speaker 5: probably still be retired right now. You feel what I'm saying, Like,
- 50:33Speaker 5: because yeah, it's just that's just what it would be.
- 50:37Speaker 4: You know what. This is why I love art because
- 50:39Speaker 4: I don't feel like you'd be able to have this
- 50:41Speaker 4: conversation without this album and without this short film album,
- 50:46Speaker 4: to be able to come up here and have.
- 50:47Speaker 5: This conversation, absolutely, And you know that's what it was
- 50:51Speaker 5: for me, And that's why I kept telling Natina and
- 50:53Speaker 5: the mother of that label too, I'm like, listen, because
- 50:55Speaker 5: they begged for the album and I was like, listen,
- 50:57Speaker 5: this album is a soundtrack.
- 50:59Speaker 4: Is one of the only people up there that cares
- 51:01Speaker 4: about it?
- 51:01Speaker 5: Yeah, no, for sure, for sure, like she already know.
- 51:04Speaker 5: I know that. So for me, it's just like it's
- 51:07Speaker 5: more of a this album is the soundtrack, this visual,
- 51:12Speaker 5: this this this cinema that was always gonna happen. And
- 51:16Speaker 5: that's why I told them, like, I'm not willing to compromise.
- 51:19Speaker 5: You know, my narrations or my indus is my story.
- 51:23Speaker 5: This is like a fucking audio album, audio book, whatever
- 51:27Speaker 5: you want to call it. You never thought about or
- 51:29Speaker 5: have you and you probably have thought about doing that
- 51:32Speaker 5: on Broadway. It's so you know, it's crazy. I almost
- 51:35Speaker 5: I almost made a post today, but I'm like, let me,
- 51:37Speaker 5: let me find the right things to do that. But
- 51:40Speaker 5: you know, I also said a minute ago that my
- 51:43Speaker 5: dream was to turn my concerts into Broadway plays where
- 51:47Speaker 5: I wanted my dancers mic, I wanted my my band
- 51:50Speaker 5: MIC like I wanted everybody MIC and turned it into
- 51:51Speaker 5: a thing, which is the reason why we did this,
- 51:53Speaker 5: because I'm like, I see the bigger things for this.
- 51:56Speaker 4: You know, got a lion king.
- 52:00Speaker 5: It. But I'm proud of you're doing good. He's trying,
- 52:08Speaker 5: He's he's really trying. He's trying. I say, I said,
- 52:15Speaker 5: don't bring up the line, king, Can we play some
- 52:19Speaker 5: music please? No? But no, this Broadway thing is a
- 52:22Speaker 5: real thing. Because I'm actually happy that I didn't post
- 52:25Speaker 5: it on my story because I feel like this is
- 52:26Speaker 5: way better to actually talk about it. But yeah, I
- 52:28Speaker 5: definitely want to turn it into a Broadway play and
- 52:31Speaker 5: you know, even eventually like a real like long form
- 52:35Speaker 5: movie or like a show, because I love that it's like,
- 52:37Speaker 5: you know, post apocalyptic and you know, it has like
- 52:39Speaker 5: a little theme to it. So I'm interested to see
- 52:42Speaker 5: the character of fire Girl, the character of Gray lea greathouse.
- 52:45Speaker 5: Like you notice, I've created these characters that are unforgettable
- 52:49Speaker 5: even for when I go on tour. I'm gonna line
- 52:51Speaker 5: it up kind of like a Broadway where I'm going
- 52:53Speaker 5: to perform the album in order you feel what I'm saying.
- 52:56Speaker 5: So it's gonna be it's gonna be sick. You're in Chicago.
- 52:59Speaker 5: He had done you know period but look and uh
- 53:03Speaker 5: and the the your movie right was were you in Harlem?
- 53:07Speaker 5: When you were in the ray and you were on fire?
- 53:10Speaker 5: You was the had No, that was actually act. Was
- 53:13Speaker 5: that Warner Warner Brothers. Yeah, it was a lot, but
- 53:16Speaker 5: it was Warner Brothers of Universe. It was Warner brother
- 53:18Speaker 5: I think it was Warner Brothers. He was he was
- 53:20Speaker 5: on a live So it wasn't supposed to be like
- 53:21Speaker 5: set in like Harlem bas like where you're from. It
- 53:24Speaker 5: was just no, it was just yeah, it was just
- 53:26Speaker 5: a set because we had to do everything in la
- 53:29Speaker 5: and that was that was you know, where a majority
- 53:32Speaker 5: and my budget went. I'm like, I'd rather give the
- 53:34Speaker 5: world a movie than be trying to do you know,
- 53:36Speaker 5: everything else. And it's really made people taking the album
- 53:40Speaker 5: completely different. Like I'm seeing videos on TikTok like women
- 53:42Speaker 5: just crying and just thinking me and all like all
- 53:46Speaker 5: types of stuff. You know, that just feels amazing because
- 53:49Speaker 5: this is the most love I've gotten the music and
- 53:51Speaker 5: a lot out of all my projects, which.
- 53:53Speaker 4: You know every time though, you know what's crazy.
- 53:56Speaker 5: Because as many plaque as I got, it's so funny
- 53:59Speaker 5: how like still how like people still underappreciate thought like
- 54:03Speaker 5: they're appreciating it now, but you know, people never really
- 54:06Speaker 5: used to give me a chance when I dropped music,
- 54:08Speaker 5: got it for a time, like all of this that
- 54:11Speaker 5: you're doing right now, this has always been what you
- 54:13Speaker 5: use storytell. But now people I don't know why now
- 54:16Speaker 5: people are paying more attention. Maybe because you know everything's
- 54:18Speaker 5: out there. I think no, but don't even think because
- 54:21Speaker 5: of the bullshit. I think people's paying more attention because
- 54:23Speaker 5: taking that step back and helping everybody else was like,
- 54:26Speaker 5: all we got to see what she would do for herself.
- 54:28Speaker 5: She's doing this for Tom Dick and Harry Bingch. What's
- 54:30Speaker 5: she doing for herself? And yeah, I think I have
- 54:34Speaker 5: This is the most vulnerable work. You feel what I'm saying,
- 54:37Speaker 5: and it's it's very prideless and ego lists. You feel
- 54:42Speaker 5: what I'm saying again to be able to share that
- 54:44Speaker 5: and be so vulnerable. But again it's the creativity too,
- 54:49Speaker 5: and how you speak it because even once you listen
- 54:51Speaker 5: to the album. You see I'm still opening up dialogue
- 54:54Speaker 5: to create a safe space for men in general, Like
- 54:56Speaker 5: this could be the safest space. You just got to
- 54:59Speaker 5: be yo, like, fuck your pride, fuck you, Like, it's
- 55:03Speaker 5: not about pointing fingers. In the beginning, you just hear
- 55:06Speaker 5: women that's tired.
- 55:07Speaker 6: No, it's one somewhere She's literally like, maybe you deserve this,
- 55:09Speaker 6: you need this.
- 55:10Speaker 5: I'm destination. Yeah.
- 55:11Speaker 4: But once the poom poom jumping on once another man
- 55:14Speaker 4: making the poom poom jump, I don't know if I'm
- 55:16Speaker 4: be able to still be fighting for anything.
- 55:19Speaker 5: No, no, but poom poom jump was poom poom jump
- 55:21Speaker 5: was later on. At this point. By the time we
- 55:24Speaker 5: get the poom poom jump, I was already like another chapter.
- 55:27Speaker 5: I was in a whole nother Yeah, I was in
- 55:28Speaker 5: a whole another chapter. We had left that once she said,
- 55:31Speaker 5: fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, that's when you knew
- 55:34Speaker 5: it was done. It was nothing. The hard part was
- 55:37Speaker 5: over with at that point.
- 55:37Speaker 4: Let me about the movie. Right. In the movie, you're
- 55:40Speaker 4: you're kind of pleading to be loved back to life,
- 55:42Speaker 4: right and wishing your partner didn't give up on you.
- 55:44Speaker 4: So is that about your marriaginized that about the new
- 55:47Speaker 4: book because the new Boom might be like, look, man,
- 55:50Speaker 4: you got to get over that and then I'll be
- 55:52Speaker 4: I'll be here for you.
- 55:53Speaker 5: So in the movie it shows me. So you see,
- 55:56Speaker 5: after a long time, I I've I've run for so
- 55:59Speaker 5: long to where I've jumped to my death mentally and emotionally.
- 56:03Speaker 5: And as you see I land in a red dress,
- 56:05Speaker 5: which was supposed to be in that blood, you feel
- 56:10Speaker 5: that little red swirl was like you know in a
- 56:15Speaker 5: verse you see I say, where a bo fighting yo demon?
- 56:18Speaker 5: It's too many dark days, no peace up in here.
- 56:21Speaker 5: That wasn't about the new situation. That was like you
- 56:24Speaker 5: said that you would love me into but I guess
- 56:27Speaker 5: love must just be a lit Why didn't you love
- 56:29Speaker 5: me back to life? I was dying, nigga, You said
- 56:32Speaker 5: that you dieing me, but you won't even fight. That
- 56:34Speaker 5: had nothing to do with the new nigga.
- 56:36Speaker 4: He's the one that's loving you back to life in
- 56:38Speaker 4: the movie.
- 56:38Speaker 5: Basically, Yeah, but him loving me back to life, that
- 56:41Speaker 5: that hook wasn't toward him. You know what I'm saying.
- 56:46Speaker 5: This is him. I'm a crime scene right now. This
- 56:48Speaker 5: is him picking me up from the crime scene. That's
- 56:50Speaker 5: what takes me on to new dig memories is what
- 56:53Speaker 5: I need. So it could also be.
- 56:57Speaker 2: Whole morning gag, but it.
- 56:58Speaker 5: Is also like again like I said, everything's a double
- 57:01Speaker 5: on tan. Yeah, so the parts of it, because I've
- 57:03Speaker 5: listened to songs where I'm like, this part resonates so well,
- 57:06Speaker 5: but then his next part is a little shady. I
- 57:08Speaker 5: don't want you to see that part. I want you to
- 57:09Speaker 5: see this part. So saying love me back to life
- 57:11Speaker 5: could absolutely apply to him, but the other parts don't
- 57:16Speaker 5: apply to him.
- 57:17Speaker 6: Because after that, like even in their EASA's second skit,
- 57:20Speaker 6: you turn into like a little kid in the candy
- 57:22Speaker 6: store again, like she's like, let's just get on, and
- 57:25Speaker 6: then you put you at Mona on one of the songs,
- 57:29Speaker 6: so now you're not running from I think I might
- 57:31Speaker 6: be in love in this because now it's kind of
- 57:34Speaker 6: like we're both in this in this space where it's
- 57:36Speaker 6: like it wasn't on our being go cards, it wasn't.
- 57:39Speaker 5: Supposed to to be this. I mean, the energy was
- 57:41Speaker 5: always there, but when you are fresh out of something
- 57:45Speaker 5: and you are in that space, you're not thinking about
- 57:47Speaker 5: like jumping to the next person. You know what I'm saying. However, again,
- 57:51Speaker 5: you know, like Kerry Washington said, like two souls still
- 57:54Speaker 5: learning how to love without armor. You know what I'm saying.
- 57:56Speaker 5: It's just like we're just gonna go for it and
- 57:59Speaker 5: figure it out as we go, and it's all about
- 58:01Speaker 5: feeling safe. And once you out of survival mode, that
- 58:04Speaker 5: shit just hit different. It's like, I'm big on my
- 58:07Speaker 5: mind being occupied, which is the reason why I was
- 58:09Speaker 5: able to stay afloat within the industry because it's like, Okay, cool,
- 58:12Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be singing. I could be doing this.
- 58:14Speaker 5: I do everything. I do everything, and that's how I
- 58:17Speaker 5: am in love too. So I'm if I'm occupied mentally,
- 58:21Speaker 5: emotionally and I feel safe, I instantly melt into your arm.
- 58:24Speaker 5: So that's what I've been yearning for. When you're yearning
- 58:26Speaker 5: for something, you're never gonna be guarded because you're yearning
- 58:29Speaker 5: for that safety, especially because I haven't had it with
- 58:31Speaker 5: it even within the industry like that.
- 58:33Speaker 4: So who told you that fly ship when they was
- 58:35Speaker 4: like you said, you feel safe with Aaron because he
- 58:38Speaker 4: handles you with gentle care and you use the whole water.
- 58:44Speaker 5: That was all me. I ain't gonna front. I'll be
- 58:49Speaker 5: having bars. I was. I was talking to I was
- 58:52Speaker 5: talking to Joe, and I was like, Yo, we gotta
- 58:54Speaker 5: wear the same colored jersey. Whoever. He's like, who gave you?
- 58:56Speaker 5: That's like, nah, chill, I'll be really I'll be spitting,
- 59:00Speaker 5: spitt it. I'd be, I really be spitting. And I
- 59:02Speaker 5: think that that's why I am a great lover because
- 59:05Speaker 5: I understand what it needs to be. I understand that
- 59:09Speaker 5: we're not opponent. To understand that we were the same
- 59:12Speaker 5: color jersey. I understand that you don't have to talk
- 59:14Speaker 5: at me, you can just talk to me. I'm all
- 59:16Speaker 5: big on how you handle me. That's really big for
- 59:18Speaker 5: me because that's where I do it for like I
- 59:20Speaker 5: become a baby, you know. And it's kind of just
- 59:22Speaker 5: like if I know we on the same team, then
- 59:24Speaker 5: there's nothing. It's nothing to argue, it's nothing to combat,
- 59:27Speaker 5: it's nothing to I don't have to talk to you,
- 59:29Speaker 5: crazy would I'm too much of an impact to be like,
- 59:32Speaker 5: oh he was so sweet, and I just decided to
- 59:34Speaker 5: just still turn up and curse the nigga out. Like
- 59:36Speaker 5: if I'm screaming, yelling and hollering, it's well deserved, Like Nigga,
- 59:41Speaker 5: you don't push me to that point to do that.
- 59:43Speaker 5: I don't have to do that in this situation because
- 59:45Speaker 5: I feel so safe, and I think safety is what
- 59:47Speaker 5: I've been yearning more than anything. And I'm not seeking perfection.
- 59:52Speaker 5: I'm not seeking perfect because that would be conditional, you know,
- 59:55Speaker 5: and I'm an unconditional lover. I seek just under standing
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: at we wear the same color jersey and that we're
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: on the same team, you know.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: And the only thing I've always said this about you,
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: people have you haven't even I still don't think you
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: scratched the surface. Like I think that one day we're
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: gonna look up and be like, God, Damniana just directed
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: that movie that made three hundred million dollars, Like I
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: really see that for you, Like you are a visionary
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: and a whole lot of different ways.
- 1:00:25Speaker 5: Just keep going so much, make things uh work that
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: I never thought could work, because I never thought I
- 1:00:32Speaker 5: would hear Tyler on the song with Jill Scott never.
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: I never thought before.
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Less I was just talking. Yeah, but like.
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: I hear talking right When when you hear the song
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: about Tyler, you think like upbeat, the three little ass pumps,
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: boom bom bom, and it was like it was a
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: vibe that's not I could smoke a blunt and let
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: him say this, but I think that that's like the
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: direct me. You know what I'm saying, Like I could
- 1:01:01Speaker 5: see the aesthetic of something to understand and the two
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: voices together, you feel what I'm saying, understanding where Jill coming,
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: Like I had the whole vision. This is what I need.
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: This is what I said, Jill, I need you, I
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: need you to talk that breakfast lunch dinner ship that
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: she came with her her spoken word killed that. You
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like she she wrote to herself,
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: I just gave her guidance or what I wanted it
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: to be talked about. I'm like, girl, I wanted breakfast
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: lunch that I need and Jill just came and bited it.
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. He raised another one. I
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: just like you could tell which one was like freestyle.
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: So like the big ones are the ones like the
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: actual like monologues are the ones that me and Coco wrote,
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: but like Easa Tasha like the more freestyle ones was
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: more so the ones of like me just giving them
- 1:01:45Speaker 5: guidance and saying, hey, like this could this could be
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: a safe space like that. Those took conversation.
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Smith whispering, Hell, nobody know.
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: We're talking about the beach yafinite way to get over
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: one niggas to get another one. Yeah, she definitely was.
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: That was the soft as I heard her talk. But
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: it's just like those other ones were important. And it's
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: crazy because it was very intentional too. When I wrote
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: that last poem for Regina, I knew that it was
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: for Regina, You feel what I'm saying. When I wrote
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: the one for Carrie, I knew that was for Carrie.
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: Sarah Polson, I knew that was for Sarah Polsting like
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: I knew what I wanted it to be like this,
- 1:02:29Speaker 5: This tour is going to be so crazy. It's gonna
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: be so crazy. Yeah, so I'm excited maybe my voice
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: to make it on to the next album I got
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: you. You know I'm doing a deluxe. It's getting crazy. You said,
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: you know we woke got deep voices.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: I like, yeah, I don't be talking No, I think
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: I think just gonna be like, yo, did I make
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: this poom poom jump The.
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: Jumping what you want to.
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: Well, since we keep talking about poop Pom jumps and
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: we go to Poop Hard Part, caoth that that that
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: album Hard Part with her and Lucky Day that reminds
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: me of like a Brandy like something like the Little
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: Runs with the It just gives me a bag in
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: the day, Brandy. Feel like that's so fired to me.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Yeah, we appreciate you for joining us. Taylor,
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: thank you so much.
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: I wouldn't even fainy tithing because I feel like she's
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: doing sound like they'll thank you. Album is out right now,
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: Escape Room. Make sure you get it, make sure you
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: download it, makes sure you.
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: Streaming on YouTube and Amazon Prime already.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Good Morning, every day. Click up The Breakfast Club.
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: Do You're finisher yachdun