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All right, everybody, you're listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at the Philadelphia
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Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the
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world, over ten and a half years strong. Again, Week sixteen of
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this Philadelphia Eagles two thousand and twenty three twenty twenty four season is now in
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the books. They beat the New York Giants by a score of thirty three
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to twenty five at the Link in Philadelphia. This Eagles team is now eleven
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and four on the season, first place in the NFC East. As we
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are recording this, I am Jeff Warren. I'm here with my good buddy
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Matt Rogers from the honorable mentioned podcast. You can listen on Apple Podcasts.
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That's where I listen to other podcasting platforms as well, at Politidope on threads.
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That's where I'm at as well. Yes, mister Jeff Warren, I'm
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on threads as well. The podcast is again the honorable mentioned podcast where you
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can hear Matt and all this great guests. So Matt, buddy, thanks
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so much for filling in for the guys. And my gosh, this Eagles
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team, they were trying to lose this game. Weren't they, buddy.
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Uh, you know, I think overall, I really enjoyed. You know,
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I didn't expect to be saying this. I really have enjoyed watching Matt
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Patricia call this defense. It's just when when the chips are at a certain
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point and I again, these are all words I can't believe I'm saying.
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But like you know, I wish he would bring out the Jim Schwartz just
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pick a fence defense. Yes, just back the guys up. I mean,
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there was no reason that they should have allowed. Oh my gosh,
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whoever read blanket Ship gave up that deep shot at the end of the game
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too. There was no good reason for that. And that's same kind of
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thing that we had last last week. It was there was Darius Slayton,
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that wasn't it. I know Slayton got one deep shot in this game.
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Okay, it was absurd. Yes, whoever, don't I don't know what
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we're doing. And in Blankenship, the technique on that was just awful.
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It was terrible. I mean, he just he took a bad angle on
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it and everything. So he asked me how I'm doing the birds one?
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Yes, Tom doing? Yes. I came on I came on the honorable
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mentioned podcast with you this past week and I said, you know what,
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I'm not one hundred sure that this Eagles team is going to pull out a
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victory. And I said that thinking, I don't know if they really have
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been able to clean up everything that they've been able to clean up. And
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I want to preface everything that I'm going to be saying in this podcast with
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the fact that this New York Giants team is not a good football team.
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And we all know that, folks. They are terrible. They have a
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ton of injury on both sides of the ball, and they are just not
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a good football team. But this Eagles team kept this Giants team in the
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game. You had two different quarterbacks playing for the New York Giants. Tommy
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DeVito. After sixteen pass attempts, he went nine of sixteen for fifty five
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yards. He was benched. Tyrod Taylor came in kind of took things over
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a little bit. I guess you would say some better stats seven of sixteen
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for one hundred and thirty three yards, eight point three yards per attempt to
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touch down, an interception, and a rating of sixty eight. But you
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know, at the end of the day, the Eagles were just kind of
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making some decisions that were just questionable. And again, this is an Eagles
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team that needs to clean up things on both the offensive and defensive sides of
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the ball, Matt and this game was by no means a gimme when we
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look like we look at these next two weeks, these next two weeks don't
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seem to be gimme games either, even though we feel like it should be
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here. You know, a number of points in the game, again,
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they were just trying to beat themselves offensively and defensively. It's amazing. I
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will say that I've been I was encouraged that when the Chips were down that
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Brian Johnson and Nick Sirianni didn't try to get cute. They just pounded the
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damn ball. Yes, just at the end, I think everybody can just
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get past it because they got to win. If it went the other way,
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and even Jalen throws a touchdown, I think you would have had a
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lot of people with a lot more heartburn because it just feels like from the
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top down. And we heard about this, and we talked about this earlier
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in the week. Jeff on the honorable mention podcast. We're talking about from
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the top down, from Lorie to Roseman to the coaches, and you know
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you had Doug Peterson who had to deal with that from top down saying,
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hey, we know that the fan base wants to run the ball, and
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sometimes it makes the most sense to run the ball, but we I reholistically
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want to be a team that throws the football well. Yes, and we
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are a team that throws the football well, but when it comes down to
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it, you've got to sault away the clock and they did that today.
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So I am encouraged by that. Yeah, we want to talk about things
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that were encouraged about this Eagles team here, Matt. Something that I am
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encouraged about, and like I know, a lot of Eagles Nation is probably
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going to be like, oh my gosh, we almost lost to the New
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York Giants, one of the worst teams in the NFL. But I think
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it's important to highlight some of the positive things as well. And one thing
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that I really want to highlight, and I think it's important as this team
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is moving forward and they're trying to clean up those things, especially from an
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offensive standpoint, is that we saw a bit of explosiveness coming from the Eagles
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offense in this game. I mean they got Devonte Smith matched up solo.
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I believe he was in the slot in the second quarter on that awesome touchdown.
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The offense really had been lacking explosive plays, especially over the past three
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to four games, but they got a few explosive plays in this game.
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Again, that thirty six yard touchdown catch from Jalen Hurts to Davonte Smith.
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The exploded the explosive plays that we have been missing we kind of got to
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see tonight. It was good that we got to see it against the New
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York Giants team again that is terrible, however we saw it. Hopefully that
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can keep some momentum going with this offense. Well, and the New York
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Jets are also a terrible football team and they did not get explosive plays against
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them. And yeah, the Giants, you know, there's that's too that
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you know, with the Eagles lost to the Jets weeks ago. Yeah,
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yeah, yes, So I'm saying, you know, we've seen this team
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play other terrible football teams and offense futter right, and so it's good.
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It's good at the at the end of the day that when this offense needed
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a third down play they were able to connect on it. Now, I
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don't exactly know what the goal was on the who Leo Jones screen pass.
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Yes, but cool, we won, so I guess we'll just keep moving
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exactly, We'll keep moving forward to look something else that I want. I
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wanted to. I really want to get into Jalen Hurts here with you too,
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because I think there was a tale of different Jalen Hurts that we saw
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within this game. I mean, let's first talk about that bad snap by
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Jason Kelcey at the end of the first quarter. Jalen Hurts was actually able
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to kind of see the field, see where Grant Calcatara was. It was
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able to complete an amazing pass off a broken play. What an amazing play.
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But then we moved to the the the third quarter where Hurts has that
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just that it was just it was not that as great of a throw.
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Dallas Goddard slides, It's an interception. It's a pick six at the end.
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And I felt like so many times throughout this game too, when Hurts
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is getting pressured outside the pocket, he just can't seem to make an actual
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passing play, just having to get rid of the ball. I'm happy he's
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getting rid of the ball instead of turning it over. However, there is
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an inconsistency and I said, like I said, like a tale of different
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Jalen Hurts throughout this game here seeming like he's still kind of trying to find
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himself in a way. Yes, given these past few weeks. But what
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are your thoughts here? I think I think one, uh, you know,
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and this isn't an excuse. I'm not coming on here after a loss
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or whatever, a bad performance and making excuses. I think the reality is
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when the season is over, hopefully you know, the Eagles are going to
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Las Vegas for the Super Bowl and we'll be talking about it after Jalen is
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hoisting the Lombardi and the Super Bowl MVP. But the reality is we'll find
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out at the end of this year just how hurt Jalen Hurts has been all
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season. So that's one thing he is injured. Two, I think that
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there's something to which you were just getting out a second ago, is that
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Jalen isn't trusting yet what he's seeing with the offense. It's it's especially because
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the Eagles never play their guys in the preseason. The first time that they're
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seeing anything live is week one, and I think that I think that there's
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something to be said that, you know Jalen. Even though Brian Johnson and
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Jalen Hurts are comfortable with each other, they know each other personally. I
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don't think that the offense that's being called for Jalen, he's not right now.
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Basically, you know, put the VR headset on or put a blindfold
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on and say, God, it's going to be here. Smith's here,
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a J's here, He's going. He's kind of trending back in that direction
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of needing to see it then throw it. Sdiken last year had Jalen really
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able to just you know, the read is now and the ball's coming out
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and it's going here. Now, there are some plays where you're seeing that
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more so from Jalen, and hopefully in future weeks we will see more of
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it. But I do I do think that Jalen is not quite comfortable yet
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with what he's seeing. I think that makes sense. I think it makes
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sense from at least the initial eye test in this game. Look, folks,
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this was a rebound game that needed to happen for this Philadelphia Eagles team
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that has lost three and especially last week's heartbreaker against the Seattle Seahawks. They
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needed this game to get back, and we talked about sports psychology, you
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know, the mental aspect of this game of football, especially toward the latter
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part of the season. They needed this game and they needed some of these
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stats too. I think when they look at whether it's they're on their screens,
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whether or not they're looking on paper and studying film and looking at some
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of these stats. They needed to see that they had twenty eight first downs
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to the Giants fourteen first downs. Total plays in this game, the Eagles
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had seventy four to the Giants fifty nine total yards per play. Eagles had
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six point three yards per play to the Giants four point nine yards per play.
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In terms of like total yards in this game, four hundred and sixty
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five total yards by this Eagles team against a floundering Giants team that is terrible.
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Again by two hundred and ninety two yards. That's what the Giants put
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up on this Eagles defense. And I think third down is really important for
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this Philadelphia Eagles team. They went eight of fifteen third down efficiency was really
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important. They were perfect on fourth down. They were two for two.
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The Giants were just terrible throughout the game, and I think from a stat
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sheet perspective, we can actually look at it, and I hope these players
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look at it and it gives them from a sports psychology perspective, Matt,
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you know, a different type of path for them to think how their fortunes
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can be moving forward with the Cardinals and again playing the Giants the last game
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of the season. I do think the stats are kind of important this week
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here, man. I. Yeah, I And also for the for the
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casual fan or the fan who watched, you know, half of the game
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but was stepping out to talk cigarette or whatever with their friends. You know,
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you're watching the score, and the score doesn't tell how much the Eagles
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dominated this game, right, I mean you have the the Ola Media Zechias
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forced fumble. Uh good God, We'll get there. Yes, sweet Jesus,
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that's one of those that that that's one of those. It's a it's
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a momentum killer, and it gave the other team points. And so if
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they can clean those things up, even in spite of the horrible coverage,
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uh in the slot from from Red Blanket Chip on that one play that totally
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gets torched in the situation where you know they have to score. I just
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don't understand these the r dbs right now. There's just a misunderstanding of downing
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distance. There are certain times, like like last week with Smith and Jigbu,
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the one catch you cannot allow him to hit is the one for the
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touchdown running right past you, Bradbury, I mean, give up whatever.
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They have to move the ball. And here the same thing happened again.
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A guy lining up in the slot and gets matched up one on one.
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Okay, give it up, give up the shorter things. I feel like
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this is like one of those staple things within the organization is that we try
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to go for a big plays on offense and we don't give up the big
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plays. I don't know what's happening here. In the last couple weeks in
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the fourth quarter went on obvious shot plays from the other team. Yeah,
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this is this is something for Maddy p to get into them and make them
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realize you were playing Kyrod Taylor this week exactly exactly. This is not Brock
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exactly. This is not Brad Purdy at all. And I'll tell you right
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now, I'm glad you mentioned I'm glad you mentioned James Bradberry. You and
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I've talked about him a number of times throughout the course of this season,
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and that throw from Tyrod Taylor to Darren Waller, I believe it was a
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twenty yarder and Brad Barry was just cooked on the play. Again consistently,
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It's like, my gosh, I mean, something is going to need to
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happen with him, maybe like maybe like Hurts quite frankly, maybe he is
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injured in some ways, having a nagging injury that we just don't know about.
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And that is me trying to make an excuse for him at this point.
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I am trying my hardest to make an excuse and I don't think that's
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the case. But really we're seeing him continuing to get cooked. So I
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wanted to bounce something off of you, you know, before we go to
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our break and before we get into our grades. Matt wanted to get into
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the frustrating nature of AJ Brown every now and then that we see when that
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connection between he and Jalen Hurts is not there. We saw it yet again
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in this game. I mean AJ Brown was targeted eleven times. He came
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down with six balls for eighty yards average. Thirteen point three point yards of
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the thirteen point three yards per reception, So in terms of getting that volume,
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it didn't necessarily happen early in the game. A lot of those targets
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came during the second half. But I'm wondering what has happened with this chemistry.
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I can't from an eye test, I can't necessarily seem to see what
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has happened because it doesn't seem like AJ Brown is double teamed on every single
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play out there where Jalen Hurts is kind of staying away from him, or
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you know, Jalen Hurts every now and again is throwing the worm burners,
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you know, the kind of Donadan McNab used to throw. Like he's throwing
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those worm burners to AJ Brown and Jay's frustrated visibly. What is your thought
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on what has happened in terms of their chemistry as we're here, like week
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sixteen of this season. I do got so one that is more in his
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defense and another one that is not so much in his defense. Number one,
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I think he's just flat out dropping passes. I mean he is flat
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The ball is hitting AJ Brown in stride in his hands, He's not coming
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down with it. You can't make excuses for it. That guy is supposed
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to be a superstar, Jamar Chase, Stefan Diggs. You know, justin
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Jefferson, you put him in that conversation and I don't you know, even
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with all these drop passes, he has to be in that conversation. But
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also I think that the scheme that what they're doing to try to get him
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the ball. There are times when they're lining up and I know exactly what
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how they're going to try to get aj Brown the ball. They run a
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three yard in and then try to have the slot guy curl out, and
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so the other teams are watching that. There was one of those today that
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almost got picked off, and it's because basically earlier in the season, you
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know, other team teams weren't feed in on yeah, he's gonna run this
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in. He's gonna run a slant. It's a lot of inbreaking stuff to
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Aj Brown, and linebackers and safeties are just sniffing it out. We've got
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they've got to be better about. You know, there's a there's too much
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pride going on. And we talked about this on Honorable Mentions. People should
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go and listen to that because it's it's still pressing information. You know,
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there's too much hero ball. There's too much. Yes, we're just better
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than you and we're gonna get our guy the ball and there's nothing you can
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do about it. Okay, you guys can do that, But that doesn't
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have to be every single time. Why can't we set aj Brown up with
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a layup? Why does he have to go and dunk on three people every
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time he puts the ball through the path. Yeah, exactly, exactly,
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make very good points. Yeah, folks, go back and listen to the
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Honorable Mention podcast in that feed from this past week, especially my appearance.
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You know, there was a lot of great conversations specifically about that. So
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as we're kind of closing up the first half of this this postgame show here,
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Matt, do you have anything else in terms of themes that you want
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to discuss with this before we get to our grading by unit and then the
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coaches. Yeah, just a heads up. I would expect if I'm the
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Eagles fan, I'd be expecting to bring my number twenty nine jerseys out.
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I expect to see Avonte Maddis back on the field. They need them,
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they need him. Bradley Roby not getting it done out there, folks,
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not getting it done even against the New York Giants. Very good, Matt,
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very good. All right, folks again, talking to Matt Rogers from
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the Honorable mentioned podcast over on threads at Politidope. What's the Honorable Mention thread
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on our thread that they handle on threads there, Matt, It's Honorable Mention
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Underscore podcast. There you go. All right, folks, we are going
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to take a quick break. We will be back in just a bit.
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We're going to get into our grades. Stick with us, all right,
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We are back and again talking to Matt Rodgers from the honor Mention Podcast.
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I listen on Apple Podcasts and they're on every other podcast streaming platform as well.
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And Matt, let's get into these grades here, buddy. The quarterback
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position. I am going to be giving Jalen Hurts this week a very up
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and down game from him. I'm going to be giving him a B minus.
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He went twenty four to thirty eight. Yeah, same great, twenty
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four to thirty eight, three hundred and one yards, seven point nine yards
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per attempt, one touchdown, one interception. He had a rating of eighty
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five point five B minus. I think it's fair for this game. Again,
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I said it was up and down for him. We both saw this.
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He has some great plays, he had some not so great plays for
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sure, But I think B minus is a fair grade. Yeah, I
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think. And I'm grading Jalen Hurts on the scale of best player in the
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league scale. I'm not expecting him to be. You know, if Jeff
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Garcia came out there today and did what Jalen Hurts did, and we would
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say it as an a game. But we know who Jalen Hurts is.
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He's got to be better in some key situation. But the third and twenty,
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if you guys are listening, or even if you think you watched it,
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go back and go and watch that throw on third and twenty while the
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Eagles were letting the game slip away. It was Giants eighteen, Eagles twenty.
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It was third and twenty and he connects with aj Brown along the sideline
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with a frozen rope. Yep, it's a green minus. But overall that
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throw was an excellent throw. Absolutely was all right. Let's move to the
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running backs. DeAndre Swift carried the ball twenty times for ninety two yards four
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point six yards per carry. And a touchdown. He probably would have had
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over one hundred yards for sure. If it wasn't for those plays at the
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end of the game where they were trying to run the clock out, he
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would have had over five yards rushing in this game. Kenneth Gainwell ran the
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ball for six ran the ball six times for forty one yards. He averaged
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six point eight yards per carry. In Boston, Scott, the New York
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Giants Killer only got in there once for three yards. I wish you've had
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a bit of there more just to see what he could have done. But
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overall, and including Jalen Hurts, is thirty four yards rushing, one hundred
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and seventy total yards rushing for this Eagles team, two touchdowns. I'm going
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to give the running backs in general this week because I think they did their
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jobs pretty darn well. I'm going to give them an A this week.
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What do you give them? I will give them an A And I also
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got a you know, I don't think Sue Opetta is very good left guard.
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The guy who's playing in there right now. It's just not giving them
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the opportunities. I think that they're trying to cover up. And you know,
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for other teams, you know, opposing enemy territory. People listen to
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this and pass it along. It's fine because they do this as a profession.
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Suellpetta is just not that good and so so those lanes are not being
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created. I can't wait for Dickerson to get back, but I do go.
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This was an excellent, excellent game from the Andre Swift. Didn't put
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the ball on the ground, especially that touchdown there at the end that should
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have been the game sealer to make it eighteen to twenty seven. Yep,
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should have been the game sealer, but they sealed it otherwise. Got to
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give him an eight though. All right, I agree with you for sure.
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All right, let's move to the receivers, wide receivers and tight ends.
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Aj Brown again eighty yards. On the day, DeVante Smith was seventy
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nine yards after being targeted five times and coming down with four balls. Dallas
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Goddard was targeted nine times. He came down with all seven balls for a
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total of seventy one yards. You'd like to see that. And of course
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Grant cal Katara catching two balls his only two balls that he caught of the
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season, for twenty one yards. And we had some other folks getting involved
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here and there, running backs and other wide receivers down the depth chart as
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well. I'm going to give the wide receivers this week a B plus.
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It could be around an A minus, but I think B plus. In
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general. I think they did what they were expected to do. Like I
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said earlier, that chemistry between Jalen Hurts and a J. Brown bit of
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an issue. But man, the one guy who I consistently love on this
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team, Davonte Smith. He is the steady eddie guy on this team.
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When he is throwing the ball, he will catch the ball at the catch
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point. I love watching him play. I'm gonna give this. I'm gonna
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give the wide receivers a B plus this week. What do you give him,
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buddy, I'm gonna go with a minus, and I'm gonna say a
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minus. Everything you said plus Nick Sirianni and Brian Johnson kept Ques Watkins on
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the sideline, Yes, Plus the ol Man Zikias pancake block where the guy
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you know, you know got blocked on on basically, Yeah, that was
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brutal. Yes, it was. It was absolutely brutal. All Right,
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let's move to the offensive line. Uh, you know you mentioned the offensive
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line when we were grading the running backs, and like you said, Sua
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Opeta not the greatest biding stretch of the imagination. There were there there were
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a decent amount of penalties in my opinion coming from Jordan my Lotta. Lane
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Johnson was was also uh penalized. Jason Kelsey as we mentioned earlier, with
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that horrendous snap, and thankfully Jalen Hurts was able to get the team out
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of a bad situation initially and converted a first down specifically on that play.
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I'm actually gonna give the offensive line this week a B minus based on based
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on some negative stuff we saw. What do you give him? I got
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it? And I'm you know, on the same row, I'm going a
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little further though, I'm going to see plus. Okay, I am starting
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to be I am starting And you know, there's a saying one of the
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people that I look up to in this in this industry is Shannon Sharp,
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and he has a great saying that I that I believe is truth. Don't
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accept anything in a win that you wouldn't have a loss. And what I
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will say say that to say, Jordan Mylotta's performance has been has been it's
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getting worse. Uh you see that, you see some of the holding calls
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because his technique is all off. He's kind of short arming stuff and not
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really you know, sprinting to get to the space and then cleaning the guys
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up. It's Jordan Mallott has got to clean it up now. I'm not
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going to be one of these people who call in a W I P and
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yell about the fact that they're doing a CD or whatever. And that's the
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reason. No, he's got to improve his technique. He's got to come
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into work with his lunch Paale. He's got to get better. He's too
25:30
good for some of the stuff we're seeing from him, and so he's dragging
25:33
the grade down. Opeta's dragging the grade down. Imagine if Jalen actually fumbles
25:40
that snap that he gets to Calcatara, you know we're having maybe a totally
25:44
different conversation. I gotta I gotta say C C plus today in this team,
25:49
this offensive line, really that's the unit that has to take over the
25:53
most over these next two games. We need them to show that they're that
25:59
unit that we came on here and raved about week after week after week last
26:03
year. Yes, absolutely, we need to see more from them, for
26:07
sure. And on the flip side of things here, moving over the defense,
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we need to see more, in my opinion, from this defensive line,
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a defensive line that generated one sack in this game. There were six
26:19
quarterback hits, four tackles for a loss, and I'm not seeing the pressure
26:26
necessarily from Jalen Carter, from Milton Williams. Fletcher Cox had a really nice
26:32
game. I gotta give him a lot of credit, and I just haven't
26:37
necessary Jordan Davis. He had a decent game as well, but man,
26:41
Josh Sweat has just not been produced. Absolutely, Holy cats. I was
26:45
gonna say the same thing, Yeah, yeah, I mean Hassan Reddick,
26:49
I mean he got four of the quarterback hits, like he's almost getting there.
26:55
He's almost there. But I'm getting kind of tired of the almost.
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I want to see these sack numbers increasing over the course of these next couple
27:03
of weeks as this team is going to be heading into the playoffs. So
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I'm actually going to be giving the defensive line a C plus this week.
27:10
Where do you give him? Matt same and I am worried, you know,
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I'm glad you we're on the same page. I'm worried about Jordan Malatto
27:18
on the offensive line, and I'm worried about Josh Sweat yep. I put
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up a I put up a quick little segment, and the listeners of Honorable
27:26
Mention know that. Every now and then I do a little promo hype video
27:30
where we cut up a part of the conversation and we had Adam Rosenberg and
27:36
Dan Nubion and we were talking about how Josh Sweat has the guy at the
27:41
Eagles game calling him sweaty J. And I even heard Sirianni calling him sweaty
27:45
J. This was before the forty nine Ers game, and we were like,
27:48
hey, you know, can we make some more plays before you have
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people calling you sweaty J. Yeah. He has now gone several weeks and
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is not He's not one of these impact players. I thought for a while
28:02
that Montez Sweat, who's now a member of the Bears, he was the
28:07
second best Sweat in the league pass rusher. I gotta say Montes is better
28:11
than Josh right now. Josh is just not jumping off the screen. If
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I didn't know who he was and I was just watching number ninety four,
28:18
I'm like Okay, he's a fine defensive end. That's not who Joshwtt was
28:23
last year. Joshwett was an impact player, a difference maker. He has
28:27
not been making a difference over the last several weeks. Very good, very
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good. Couldn't have said it better myself. Let's move to the linebacker position.
28:36
Shaq Leonard doing a lot here in this game. Seven tackles, five
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total solo tackles, one sack, two tackles for a lost, one quarterback
28:47
hit. Shack Leonard really was all over the field. A couple missteps here
28:51
and there. Ben Van summer In I believe is his name, he was
28:56
also in there. Six total tackles. They weren't necessarily a detriment in this
29:03
game at all. And Shack Shaq Leonard actually had a pretty good game,
29:07
you know, based on the eye test. So I'm actually gonna give him
29:08
a B this week. What do you give the linebacker corps? I'm gonna
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say the C C plus range. I'm seeing, Zach, I'm seeing Shaq
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Leonard just go to the totally wrong gap on some of these running plays.
29:23
There were there was a drive there in the second quarter where where Taquon they
29:29
were just hammering it up up the gut with Saquon every time it was because
29:34
Shaq Leonard was was was taking the wrong gap. He was in exactly the
29:38
wrong gaps too many times. Now, he he did splash a couple of
29:42
plays and made some good play plays, uh, Van Samarin. Great to
29:48
see him, you know, get some opportunities off of the Special Teams unit
29:52
to be you know, I don't believe him saying this, but welcome,
29:56
you know, looking forward to welcoming back Nicholas Morrow at Cunningham next week.
30:02
So hopefully we improved. But I was pretty excited to see uh Shaq Leonard.
30:07
And then honestly, I got to say, he's not the same guy.
30:12
Nobody should expect that he's gonna be that guy. He clearly has lost
30:18
a ton of agility and a ton of top end speed. Now his brain
30:22
is still working, but he's just not able to turn and stick with these
30:27
people the way that he could before. Yeah, all right, let's move
30:32
to the secondary before we get to the coaches this week, read Blank and
30:36
Ship Keeley, Ringo, James Bradberry and uh, who am I missing here?
30:41
Who am I missing here? Roby? Right? But Bradley Roby,
30:45
and my gosh, the other safety yes, yes, Eli Rix for sure,
30:51
and our other safety who did Kevin Byarn, Kevin Byrn so oh oh,
30:56
Kevin Byron. And Brown yes Brown, Sidney Brown as well. Boo.
31:00
By the way, this secondary unit, man, they just are floundering
31:03
from time to time. You know, this groups that I'm going to be
31:07
giving actually a C minus two this week because look, while there were only
31:12
one hundred and eighty eight yards receiving by this giants receiving corps in general,
31:21
when they needed to come up really big, yes, Killey Ringo had had
31:26
the interception at to seal the game. But when they needed to come up
31:30
big and make some stops, they weren't doing it. They were giving up
31:33
some chunk plays in chunk yards again, Debo Samuel or Jamar Chase out there
31:38
today exactly, yes, And Daniel Bellinger, you know, like the what
31:42
the heck is going on here? You know, Wandale Robinson with his three
31:45
catches for sixteen yards. Still they were able to contain Wandell Robinson, you
31:51
know, thank goodness for that, exactly. So I'm going to give them
31:55
a C plus this week. The secondary, what do you give them buddy.
32:00
Yeah, if not for Keelee Ringo, I'm very high on Keey Ringo.
32:05
I think, I think, honestly, James Bradberry has had a good
32:08
career. Uh, he was a he was a Pro Bowl player last season.
32:13
I've said this, and I'll beat the drum again. James Bradbury to
32:17
safety, let Rix and Ringo and Avonte Max in the slot. You got,
32:24
you got Robi to play don for you. You'll have slay in a
32:29
couple of weeks. Let's just let Bradbury get his feet wet. He cannot
32:34
cover these fast outside receivers. He's done. He's cooked, and and and
32:39
at the parade, let him have a Kelsey moment and say, you know,
32:45
people said that I was cooked, and I'll and I'll stand ten toes
32:47
down. He looks cooked. He cannot stay, uh, you know,
32:52
step for step with these fast wide receivers. And again I did not see
32:57
Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson or any of the those guys out there today.
33:00
I saw him getting cooked by just guys. Yes, honestly, it's a
33:05
problem. It's gonna be a problem perhaps in the playoffs for sure. So
33:08
all right, let's move over the coaching Special teams here. Look, you've
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got a special teams unit in the punt the punt unit and punt return unit.
33:16
Holy cow, fantastic, especially the returner Britton Covey with an incredible first
33:22
punt return of the game that went for fifty four yards. He did bobble
33:25
the ball in the second quarter, could have given it up, but he
33:29
recovered well. He had another great play where the ball bounced. He just
33:32
aggressively ran to that ball and made sure that he had another twelve to fifteen
33:37
yards off of that play. Special teams gets an a plot. I'm sorry.
33:42
The punt return units get us an a plus from me. Now,
33:45
the kick returns were atrocious. A holding on Eli Rex. Yeah. On
33:51
the kick return of the first quarter, after gain Well had a decent return,
33:53
it was brought back. That's on Elirix. And then, as you
33:55
mentioned earlier, somehow Boston Scott and Olamadi's a chaus. They run into each
34:01
other to start the third quarter, Boston Scott fumble that given the Giants the
34:06
ball I think at the Eagles fourteen yard line. Braid Man, his punts
34:10
this season have been pretty darn good. He's been averaging forty three point six
34:15
net punt net punts that that's his average, sixth best in the NFL.
34:21
In this particular game, he averaged fifty four yards per punt on two punts.
34:27
Braidon Man is the punter for the Eagles in the future. I gotta
34:30
tell you, if it wasn't if it wasn't for the kick returns being atrocious
34:34
and some of the penalties there, Matt, they would have had an A
34:37
plus from me. But they're actually gonna get a B plus this week.
34:39
What do you give special teams? Yeah, I'm with you. I think
34:46
you know going good thing that they did not you know that didn't turn into
34:52
a fumble six, Yes, at least it was just a fumble. Yep.
34:57
I'm really it's so frustrated that they really can't. I don't think that
35:02
they care about kick return anymore. It's weird to say that, but I
35:07
don't think they. So. If we don't care, why can't we just
35:12
fair catch it? Just send the guy back there, Just a fair catchule
35:15
to start on the twenty five every time, yes, exactause we can't do
35:20
what we're doing. I'm holding my breath every time we're returning the kicks just
35:24
to get to the twenty two, yes, or just to get to the
35:27
twenty seven. It's like, look, too much stress, folkses, Let's
35:30
just take it in twenty five, go seventy five yards every time. Cool
35:34
Jayleen can do it. Yep, all right, Let's move to the defensive
35:37
side of things. As we're running out of time here, Matt, I
35:39
am going to give Matt Patricia Sean decide the defensive coaching in this game of
35:45
B minus. I mean it could be around a C plus as well,
35:50
just again, a lot of ups and downs throughout this game that we talked
35:52
about on this postgame show. I'm going to give him a C plus.
35:55
What do you give them? I give him a little higher than that.
36:02
Ye maybe seven points or Jalen, Yeah, because seven of those are from
36:07
from the from the defense, from the offense given up that that that pick
36:12
six and then there. But they were put in a terrible spot by the
36:15
special team. So you know, another few points there we could be talking
36:21
about, you know, more so the masterpiece, uh, you know,
36:24
keeping them into the mid to low teams. I've been actually encouraged by by
36:29
Patricia. I'll go with a beam, but he really has to clean this
36:34
up in late game situations when the game is over and they have to score,
36:37
Folks, can we just play six, just play cover four? Yes,
36:40
nobody behind us? And this is how it works, guys. Is
36:44
nobody played Madden before? I mean, I hate to just shout out Madden
36:47
on the sports podcast, but seriously, it teaches a lot of important lessons.
36:52
You just don't let the guy behind you. It's a numbers game,
36:55
it's a time just let the clock tick. They the ones with onus on
37:00
them, They've got to get into the end zone. Absolutely, all right,
37:02
Nick Sirianni. Brian Johnson the offensive coaching this week. I'm going to
37:07
give him a straight up be what do you give them, buddy? I
37:08
think to get this team up off the mat this week, I got I'll
37:13
get I'll give them an A plus. The energy in the building, I
37:17
think there's a lot to be said. Even if you're you're knocking out somebody
37:22
who shouldn't even be in the ring with you. Yeah, it does take
37:24
something if you were just getting up off the mat a couple of times.
37:29
And I do got to say this team, this team could have been headed
37:32
in a really bad direction. If this team was ten and five. People
37:37
would be right in their obituary right now and they're not so cheers to them.
37:42
Good point. I'll go ahead and i'll give them. I'll mix that.
37:46
I'll give that a B plus. Let's say, right plus sounds good?
37:50
All right, folks, that's going to do it for us. Here
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Week sixteen of this Eagles twenty twenty three twenty twenty four season now in the
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books. They beat the New York Giants by a score thirty three to twenty
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five. Our friend Matt Rogers, thank you so much, buddy, for
38:02
joining us from the honorable mentioned podcast. Again. Listen on whatever podcast platform
38:07
you're listening to us on, and you're gonna enjoy what the what Matt's talking
38:12
about, the conversations he has. Matt, Thank you so much, buddy.
38:15
Looking forward to talking to you down the road, my friend. All
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right, folks, that's gonna do it for us. You all take care.
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We'll catch you next time.