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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - September 10, 2026 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Hello everyone, welcome to another exciting edition of Football Blues brought to you by sports memories.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's our current events podcast brought to you by and yay, we're back.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Football's back.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Aren't you happy?
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yay, football.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Why are we playing we're playing football on a Wednesday?
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: So this will be released after the Wednesday game between Seattle and New England.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're playing a game.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: We're playing a game in Australia, which I always had to dream of opening a Steeler bar in Sydney, Australia.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Playing games on Wednesdays, playing games on Thursdays, playing the exact same game we ended last season with.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be fun.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: So um moving on to the local teams, um, pit football.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! Pitt played in front of not a lot of fans.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there were some there.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um they defeated Miami of Ohio, the fighting Ben Rothesberger, who was in the stands.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: I saw the pictures on Facebook.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um 59-14.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh pretty convincing win.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Mason Heinschel, he threw for seven touchdowns in a game.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: And that actually set an ACC record for touchdowns in the game to him.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: But it only tied the record.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know who the uh who the record he tied?
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Was it Mitt Trubisky?
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: I know at Pitt.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Who who did he who did he tie?
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's an ACC record, but who he tied with quarterback at Pitt.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was a quarterback that played for Pitt.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you really don't know one year, yeah.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that would be Pete Gonzalez at a Rutgers, a game against Rutgers that went into overtime.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: He threw seven touchdown passes.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm impressed.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I tell you who wasn't impressed, Bob Smizick.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, for whatever reason, uh, he thought it was classless that um Patton Arduzi left his starters in.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: I guess, you know, maybe he knew the record was coming up, maybe he just decided thank god Hydrol didn't get hurt.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: That would have been bad for everybody.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um he said uh, you know, I think it was somewhat hypocritical of Smyzik because I remember a game Pitt lost to Penn State 51 to 6, and that was in 2018.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: We actually did a podcast in the 2018 season, and uh nobody said anything about him leaving in um uh Ice McSorley like till the fourth quarter in that game.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: So Bob Smizak was nowhere to be found on that one.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: So But Steve, it's okay if Penn State does it.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because Pitt probably deserved it or something, right?
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right or all the times like Notre Dame or Miami leave there, yeah.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um moving on from like retire.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Bob Smizick, you know, when did he retire?
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like 20 years ago?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like no one ever truly retires when they have social media accounts.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like he hasn't he hasn't worked for the newspaper, and I couldn't tell you how long.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he's still out there giving his cranky opinion.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: So good good for Bob.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: Good for Bob.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I like to see that we know the senior citizens are still employed and gives us it gives hope for the rest of us.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um so Tim, is this a good thing to come for Pitt?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like the defense obviously played well enough to stop their other team, or is it just a blowout of a subpar max goal?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: I will say this at least Pitton didn't need a uh fluky last second Hail Mary that probably shouldn't have happened, beat their Mac team.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean they could have just uh kept adding seconds to the clock like they did for Michigan.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: I I I think it's it doesn't really mean a whole lot, obviously.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's Did you call it I remember we were talking about this and you said, you know, Narnoose really doesn't normally lose the Mac schools in the opener.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's lost to Western Michigan.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: He did lose to Western Michigan a couple years back.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Was that a can he picket year?
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: That was the year they won the ACC, actually.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: But but that but that's few and far between compared to some of his predecessors.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's I think it's you you don't want to play poorly in that kind of a game.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: Heinchel looked really good, but like Eli looked really good beating up on Duquesne last year in the opener, and then we all know how that turned out.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I think Miami's a lot better than Duquesne.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're they're supposedly in the same division, at least.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's it's again, time will tell.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a really good start.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like this Cade Bell offense, like this is it's supposed to be a high-flying, high-scoring offense.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: It they've been really itching for the right quarterback to run it the last few years.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Again, Eli kind of looked like he was gonna be that guy then he then he wasn't.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: Then Heintel last year looked like he was gonna be that guy, and now he has a chance to take a step forward.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully it's the beginning of things to come, but uh it's too early to say.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so moving on to the pro rank, the professionals ranks, um, the Steelers, um, Aaron Rodgers.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is his last season for real this time.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: He means it.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: He's retiring after the season, Tim.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: So does he go out like John Elway, or does he go out with like Terry Bradshaw or Brett Farr?
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of kind of like too extreme for like you know, NFL Hall of Famers to go out with there, you know.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Or Peyton Manning.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: Peyton Manning did win a Super Bowl in this last couple of years, but he definitely wasn't the reason they won the Super Bowl.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I th I think it'll be somewhere in between.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think it'll be he'll go out either like like Dan Marino or Jim Kelly.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like like a Peyton Manning kind of year, like where he just he just takes care of the football, makes plays when he has to, and defense kind of pulls through.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I just don't see that happening.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think our defense is that good anymore.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: A couple of years ago, maybe we could have pulled that off, but not right now.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think we have the 2015 Broncos defense.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I I think like like if you look at like like Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, those were all guys that made the playoffs their last year, um, maybe won a game, but didn't you know go that far.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's his ceiling, probably.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I would love it if it was the Peyton Manning or John Elway finish, obviously.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see his quote about when he retires who he's gonna turn into?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: He said he's gonna turn into Kaiser Souza.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: It'll just be like a rumor.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: And he was gone.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's gone.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: Limp away and then like all of a sudden work, walk normally and get in a car with baby offship.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then Mike McCarthy like runs outside looking for him and doesn't see him anywhere.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: That was a great film, the usual suspense.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: That was, but yeah, if nobody understands that reference, please go back and watch that movie.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of the really great films of the 90s.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um so the Steelers end up keeping four quarterbacks.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: Rogers, Howard, Mason Rudolph, and Drew Aller.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: Does this mean anything?
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, does it is it just like your theory of like they're just trying to throw a lot of stuff against the wall and hope some of it sticks?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that I mean they're they're gearing up for next year.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're wanting to come into next year with you know quarterbacks that they know instead of just starting over with, you know, because if if they if they didn't keep all four, I think Mason's a free agent, and then you're kind of pinning a lot on Aller next year.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: So this way it gives them a little bit more um to work with.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I I will this is the last time I'll say this because the season's starting, but I'm gonna say it one more time.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: I really wish they just would have said, hey, Aaron Rodgers, thanks for everything.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: That was a great one season.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: But we, you know, it's time for us to move on and start Mason Rudolph as the starting quarterback this year, and whatever that gets you, fine.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: If that gets you a losing record, fine.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: If that gets you a one and done playoff trip again, fine.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: But at least then Howard and Auer are the actually have more of a role on the team, whereas now they're just gonna sit there and do really nothing all season.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe Drew Aller can play wide receiver, cover punt.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like that, remember that used to happen a lot in the 80s?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't Jeff Hoss that learn cover punts?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Mark Malone.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that used to happen back in the day.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: You'd never ever see that now.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: So we're not gonna see Drew Aller running down covering punts or anything like that.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, and they wouldn't want him to do that anyway because it's like he'd get hurt, that's not the point, you know.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and also that's not gonna help him learn to play quarterback.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I I like it too.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I would have rather just gone with Rudolph this year.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then if we stunk in week six, then you could say, hey, Will Howard, let's see what you got.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I think I've seen what Will Howard has got, and I was not impressed.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I again I I it's a small sample size.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I I will say this, Steve, that about keeping four quarterbacks.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: If Mike McCarthy wanted to keep four quarterbacks, I trust Mike McCarthy.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, more than more than Mike Tomlin or Bill Cower.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes to know that those four quarterbacks or those other three quarterbacks were worth keeping, especially the two young guys.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: The two young guys were worth keeping because there is a potential of a future.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: If they thought Will Howard was a typical six-round jabroni, then you don't keep him and sacrifice a roster spot.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I do trust McCarthy in that aspect.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see how it plays out.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: So uh under our usual uh Mark Madden part of the podcast.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Mark Madden, I guess, uh made comments.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't find them online, but I guess maybe made them in one of his podcasts.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: But he said that he was saying TJ Watt is in decline, and um, you know what?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: The numbers kind of back it up, Tim.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: In uh 2025 he had seven sacks, then 2024 he had 11 and a half, and 2023 he had nine.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he is he's over the age of 30, right?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: So he's kind of hit that magic number.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, it's just a personal grudge from Madden.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the workout story?
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Remember like, oh, TJ Watt is just going home to work out and like not didn't have his exit interview, that whole thing.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like or it's just just an astute about that.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I don't know which way to go with that.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: And like Madden has such like kind of an axe to grind, so if if you want to make the argument that maybe we should have um traded TJ Watt when he was at his apex rather than sign him to to that to that new contract, I can I can see that because he was never probably gonna be as good as he was two, three years ago again.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um at the same time, like if you listen to like like I listened to Ben Rothisberger's podcast last year, they were talking about this at the end of last year, and Ben kept really trying to stress that um just because TJ doesn't get sacks doesn't mean he's not greatly impacting the game.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: Creating like yeah, creating pressure, getting double teams, yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and making the the the defensive coach of the or the offensive coach of the other team have to completely scheme around him.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: So so there's a lot that like that that's kind of one of those.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of like the Steelers did against Cleveland last year, where they were just like, nope, yeah, uh Miles Garrett isn't getting a a sack, but then they didn't score any points because they were so scared of him getting a sack.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's a perfect example.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: But if you look at Miles Garrett's stats in that game, it's like, hey, you stunk.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, did he, you know, like he he had enough of an impact.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: So so I don't know.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like if you could have gotten a Miles Garrett type of haul for him, um, in terms of draft picks, like the Browns got for Garrett, then that would have probably been better to trade him, honestly, at this point.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: But the Steelers don't do that.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: The Steelers would have never done that.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: They don't the Steel the Steelers aren't Belichick.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: They don't take their their all-time great players and then trade them for draft picks.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: They just don't know.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Especially like in their prime.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like he would do that to people in their prime.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: He did a couple, like Lawyer Malloy.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did Bernie Kozar.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why, you know, that mostly worked out for the Patriots.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: The Steelers just aren't that team.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they're and they're not Cleveland either.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Cleveland's not smart.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Cleveland's just throwing in the towel.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the Steelers will never throw in the towel either.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Even a terrible one.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: They won't even throw in the terrible one.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: So at some point, you just you just have to accept the Steelers for who they are.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can debate these things all day, but it's like it's fun for us to debate them, but it's just not who they are.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: They're not going to be that be that team that does stuff like that ever.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: So um a couple trades here, Tim, and I didn't realize this one guy got traded until you just uh you brought this up here in your notes.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so Broderick Jones got traded to the Cowgirls.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: And um where did Caleb Johnson go there too?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, he went to the Packers because that's whenever um uh whenever Josh Jacobs, well, Josh Jacobs, I guess, isn't officially suspended.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's on like the commissioner's exempt list.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he what did he do again?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Is he like DUI or B2B?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: He allegedly, I think, threw his girlfriend through a window or something.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I don't believe me on any of this.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: But it was it was one of those things where he he's not been like charged with anything, but charges are probably gonna come on and stuff like that.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and they're supposedly a tape of it.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're I think they're afraid of it turning into a Ray Rice thing again.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, the Packers needed running backs.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And and Caleb Johnson was like, I mean, at this point last year, he was he was a third-round pick, but remember that because they had traded that second-round pick for DK Metcalf, he was actually the second pick they had in the draft last year.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And now he's gone.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: And if they hadn't traded him for a six-round, they got a six-round pick back, and if they hadn't gotten that, they would have cut him.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I think I think these guys are Tomlin guys.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: I it's like when you get a new coach, you run off sometimes.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: You even run off a good player, like guys that just don't fit in with a new coaching staff.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: And they had they have uh the guy from Carolina, Dow, how do you pronounce that?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Down Dow.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Dow Dowdle.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Dowdle, and then yeah, the whatever, Jalen Warren.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean they already kind of had their running backs.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Unless Caleb Johnson got to play special teams.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then wasn't he the one?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want Caleb Johnson playing special teams.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, didn't he didn't he do the Barry Foster?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't he Barry Foster?
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, maybe he'll lead the league in like rushing with like 1700 yards one of these days.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: So then retire to Arkansas for no reason.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: They what what what they said about him is he was he was he was a Tomlin guy, but he was also a huge Arthur Smith guy.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was Arthur Smith's scheme that they ran at was he at Iowa, I think.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was basically the same scheme.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then that really doesn't fit well into McCarthy's offense.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: And he also, even with Arthur Smith, I know he's a rookie, but even with Arthur Smith, really was barely on the field.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Roderick Jones is just it had like I remember he had like two holding penalties in a row, two or three holding penalties.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: That was that probably game.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: That game at Mile High where he like like they literally like holding.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: He destroyed an entire drive.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I and like did we misuse him like moving him from one side to the other to the other?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, or and maybe he just wasn't that good.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: And that one hurt because we traded up for him.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: So so both of those really hurt because those were high draft picks that were supposed to be integral parts of the offense, and now they're gone.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's what happens.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's sometimes you swing and miss.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: The the thing that bothered me was like when that happened, social media was just a buzz with like steel or criticism.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: And and a lot of it was direct directed at Omar Khan.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of it's directed at Tomlin.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: I anytime I think those are Tomlin guys.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I really do.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but Tomlin's also not the general manager.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like But the coach still has input.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, of course.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: You can't, you can't.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: My thing is, you can't you can neither absolve Tomlin of the blane or pin 100% of the blame on him.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: So this idea, people are like, Omar Khan's just a figurehead.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Omar Khan's just a bean count.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's just that.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's like but I think I think a coach that's been there like 15 years is definitely gonna have a say tremendous much more say than like the first year coach of the whatever Cardinals that has never been a coach before, whatever, right?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: For sure, 100% can't uh Tomlin has to own those picks as well.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: But this idea that like like Tomlit sucks because he's the other thing, the other side of that coin is if you look at the last four years of draft picks, I mean, this year's too early to tell, obviously.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so so Jones and Caleb Johnson were busts.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, in that time span, we also drafted Killy Porter Jr., Keanu Benton, Darnell Washington, Nick Herbig, Troy Font Fontanu, Zach Fraser, Peyton Wilson, Mason McCormick, Derek Harmon.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: These are all guys that are starters that are having a really good impact, that are really a start of a core of a good young team.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: So you if if you want to say those are you know, Tomlin can't draft or con can't draft, okay, but then there's like, you know, for the two bad picks, there was what was there, like eight or nine pretty good ones in there.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like again, you know.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: But that's how it always is with the draft.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're gonna have like as you go later in the draft, you the talent, yeah.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, even when you go early in the draft, look at, you know, um we just we just had our we just had our fantasy football draft this this week, and um one of the guys that went in like the tenth round was um Marvin Harrison, the receiver for the Cardinals.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just thinking about him.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh my gosh, remember when he came out of college, he was like can't miss numbers.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well he doesn't have a quarterback to throw to him right now.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't, but like the the Cardinals, Michael Wilson had a really good year last year.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Trey McBride had a really good year last year.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like their other receivers did okay with a lack of quarterback, and he so my point is being even when you go at the top of the draft, it's it's like not a crapshoot, but it's it's still very hit and miss.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you're just never gonna bat a thousand.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: So those were disappointing, Broderick and Johnson and or Broderick Jones and Caleb Johnson being gone, but again, it is what it is.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: So what about uh Joey Porti Jr.?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um I are they gonna negotiate into the season, are gonna break Dan Rooney role, or are they just gonna call it?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's got what a couple days here to sign.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, by the time we release this, we'll probably know more, but he's like, and he's like doing this thing where like, well, maybe I'll play, maybe I won't.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I I think that's all just grandstanding.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna play.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is this his last year?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Is yeah.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: So if he plays this whole year and plays well, next year he could get paid big unless they franchise him.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: But but but he's remember, he was the 32nd pick overall, which was the first pick of the second round.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: So because he was the first pick of the second round, the Steelers don't have that fifth year option.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a first round pick, you have the option that you have that fifth year option.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: The Steelers didn't have that with him because he was a second, he was technically a second round pick, even though he was 32nd overall.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh geez.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because that was the year the Dolphins had to forfeit a pick.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, you know way more about this than I.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I just know that that's that's where they stand.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: So because of that, this is his last year.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: And and I think you and I both think he's been here four years already.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's hard.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Boy, where does the time go?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's been for this well, this will be his fourth season.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I think he'll play.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think he'll play too, and I I think they'll get him signed.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be the you know, these negotiations, they always wrap up at the very last minute.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I can see them like signing like Friday or Saturday or something.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, or maybe or maybe they'll break with tradition.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: They've broken with tradition so much, maybe they'll keep negotiating into the season.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: That was always kind of like a Dan Rooney thing, like, nope, we don't negotiate during the season.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: So Yeah, we actually did an episode um where we talked about the origin of that.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was like back in the eighties when they signed a couple of guys during the season and then other guys got angry about it, and then that's when Dan Rooney's like, Okay, this is way too much of a distraction.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I I I get why he instituted that, but you're right, I could see them breaking with that too.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: And and I think he's gonna at the very least, I think he's gonna play.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: But then I just I can't help but think back to you mentioned 2018 about Pitt.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Remember the 2018 Steelers season?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Remember the first week of that season where we're like, LeVan Bell, he's gonna play.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is all just grandstanding and he'll play.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And he never never played ever again for the Steelers.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: So barely played for the Jets.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Here's a good question, Steve.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: If Johnny contender team offered you, I don't know, two first round picks, would you trade Joey Porter Jr.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Johnny contender team?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's okay.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think he you know what I mean?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: He's not like the second coming of Deon Sanders.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: And he's solid, but I don't think he two first round picks.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, that's that's extreme.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: How about how about one first round pick?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Even one first round pick is pretty solid.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like if they gave me like a second round pick and a fourth round pick, I'd be going, mmm, you know, because that's I think that's more likely what you get, you know.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say the San Francisco 49ers, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: They're a team that's probably that's a contender, right?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be in the playoffs probably.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: They offered you their first round pick next year, which probably figures to be, I don't know, 24th overall.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Would you take it?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: I it's probably I would I think, I mean, sure, why not?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's not I guess it's not that high of a pick, really.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's the that's maybe everybody like every year the 49ers, everybody gets hurt.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe they'll get hurt, everybody.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: And they'll finish badly.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: What was that one year they've had to play like their fourth string quarterback?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: After Brock Party got it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's say it's Seattle, then, or some team that like again, some team that you're almost positive is gonna be in that bottom fourth of draft picks.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: And and see that's I guess it does make a difference.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even think about that.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: That really does make a difference.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right, because you because Cleveland isn't gonna offer you a first-round pick.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Arizona, Vegas aren't gonna offer you a first-round pick because they don't need JW Porter Jr.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: for a year.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: They they the team that's contending that wants to win the Super Bowl now is the team that's gonna offer you something big for them.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: So Johnny contender.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: That Johnny contender.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's and that's the struggle because if you if you don't if somebody would offer you that and you don't take it, and then you can't sign them, now you either have to franchise them or you get nothing.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that I don't know.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't think I would do it.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think I would I think I would keep them this year and then franchise him for next year and then look at the trade.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think he like I've been like really underwhelmed with them.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think he's all that great.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's okay.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's really I think he's very good.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's I think he's I think he's solid.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's top 10 to 15 cornerbacks in the league.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's top five.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I think he's like Willie Williams.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's solid, but he's not I think he's better than that.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe yeah, I don't it's just he takes a lot of pass interference penalties.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: He he's a little grabby.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: He is for sure a little grabby.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: You're right about that.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Or a lot grabby in Zachary.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not he's not terrible, though.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: He's not like Chad Scott, but he he's not he's not Rod Woodson either.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I agree with you there.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I don't think he's like a top five cornerback in the league.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, he wants to be paid like that, probably, and you know, more power to him.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: Get what you can get when you can get it.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, switching to uh the Steelers' first game is coming up.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that would be against the Atlanta Falcons.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: And that's here, that's in Hines, or whatever, Akkers or Stadium, whatever it's called this week.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Atlanta has a, let's see, they have Tua, our good old friend Tua at quarterback, and Kevin Stefanski.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: So um Tua didn't have that great of a game last time they played the Steelers, right?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: He had like a lot of, I remember that last year.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: He had like a lot of meaningless yarns.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Tua hasn't had that great of a career against anybody.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: He definitely gets hurt a lot.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's bad.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is this a bad matchup for the Steelers?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's at home.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: What boy when's the last time they had a home opener?
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like this early in the year.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: I wow.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Did they have I think they had it last year?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: Or is this no last last year was at the Jets.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because we're all complaining how they never have home openers because of the pirates.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: I I think the year that they open against the 49ers, I I'm 99% sure that that was at home.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: That was 2023.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: That might have been the last one.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because two years ago it was at Atlanta.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because we love opening against the Falcons.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, do you think this is a I don't know how good or bad Atlanta's gonna be.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean I know Kevin Stefanski's their coach, he's knows the Steelers, but he knows Mike Connolly Steelers.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I can see the Steelers losing this game and like people really being pissed off.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: I I just have a weird feel.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Early in the season, it's hard to get a beat on teams because you don't know who's gonna do what.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have two thoughts.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: One the first one, I totally align with you on that.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like week one.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's the best week to bet.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: If you're a gambling, you're this is because nobody knows who's good or bad.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I would also offer that even if somebody is good or even if somebody's bad, week one's such an outlier anyway, because we don't do preseason games anymore where starters play.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: We don't do like we've super pared down like the camps and the and the practices.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: It really it takes four weeks to like really start playing football anymore.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: And week one's just a crapshoot.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like you'll go back to week one of any year.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Remember that year we beat Cincinnati and they were coming off the Super Bowl, and we beat them in overtime in Cincinnati, and we sunk that year.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't make the playoffs that year, and they were in the AFC Championship game, but it was week one.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like week one is just again, it's a crapshoot.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think even Trubisky played that game, then they couldn't score anything.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, so week one, like, we shouldn't get too excited one way or the other.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: My second thought is my God, they just named their starting.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: They were literally trying to figure out if Tua or Michael Penix was gonna be their starting quarterback.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, so everything I just said about week one doesn't matter, and we shouldn't get too upset about it.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: I will be really ticked off if they lose to friggin' Tua and the the now now.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: The Falcons do have B.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: John Robinson, who's a really, really dynamic, good running back.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: But like Tua just stinks, man.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: And like Penix, I still don't know why they drafted him.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: That was so he's kind of old, too, isn't he?
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's like not young.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Tua?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, Penix.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, they that was just a few years ago they drafted him, wasn't it?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well they just drafted him last year, but I think he was like a 28-year-old rookie.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was an older, yeah, yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: They played like 10 years in college.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: They were the best 10 years of his life.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: So so I don't know.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: They I think the Falcons are gonna stink.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm rooting for Stefansky because I actually like Stefansky, but we should win that game.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, we should win that game, and I'll be disappointed if we don't.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm I'm like revising.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: I I think the Steelers, like last year I thought they'd make the playoffs and win a playoff game, and I was right on one and wrong on the other.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: If we just could have scored when CJ Stroud was falling to pieces, we would have been fine.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: But I digress.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think the Steelers finished like an 8-9.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they have their first losing season since wouldn't that make Mike Tomlin bloat a little bit?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: And they missed the playoffs.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: I think they missed the playoffs.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: I just our division can't be as good as it was last year.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: If the Bengals have any kind of defense, they should run away with this division easily.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: All the Bengals have to do is have like a middle-of-the-pack defense and they're fine.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Easier said than done the last few years.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: At least with the Bengals.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then Baltimore, like, you don't know what to expect from them either because they're always just Baltimore, but now they have a new coach.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: And Lamar, I still really believe that Lamar is never gonna win anything for them.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it'll be interesting.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just for whatever reason, he doesn't do well in like high-stakes games.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: He really doesn't perform well.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's unfair to him.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: You want to talk about a guy that'll be gloating.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's John Harbaugh.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: If if if Lamar ends up fizzling out and doesn't win anything, Harbuster's gonna be like, oh, so it wasn't me?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Huh.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so Tim, what what do you think?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: You think the Steelers make the playoffs, don't make the playoffs, too scared to make a prediction?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'll I'll I'll go with like 10 and 7 again.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think they could do 10 and 7 again and and get a wild card.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that's a reasonable finish for them.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I wouldn't be surprised at at 8 and 9 or 7 and 10.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: I really wouldn't be.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's just it's right in that mushy middle range again, yeah, which is is fine.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like again, not fine, but it's like they I do think that they have like those graphics I named earlier.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think they have, I think they are actually building something.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the other thing I want to say is the the trend here, if you look at if you want, if you if you if you're big on history repeating itself, you know, when Bill Cower came in, he had a lot of guys that Chuck Knoll had stacked the team with, a lot of good young guys, but he did a better job kind of coaching them up.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: When Mike Tomlin came in, he obviously had a lot of good young guys that Cower had stacked the team with, and at least the next season did a better job coaching them up than Coward did when Cower left and he was eight and eight.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that you know, if you want to hope for something there, hope that you know we do have some good talent that we're building, and then McCarthy can get them to a different level.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Once again, I will say this a thousand times, it all comes back to one single position, and you know what that position is.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: That would be um the guy that runs down on kick coverage on the right side, like second guy in.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's that guy.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whoever he is, whoever he is.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: The kick from Mount Lebanon.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's gonna play that position.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: The guy from the Navy, yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: All comes down to him.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: So uh that's it for our podcast uh today.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll talk to you again next week when we continue our football balooza, because we really don't care about the pirates anymore, and the penguins are still out of season.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, the pirates.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if the pirates like get it together and make things interesting, there's still five games out, but I I don't see them doing anything.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: So sell the team, Bob.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: And and we're not gonna have baseball next year anyway to talk about, so we're just preparing you for that.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean the my my hope for the pirates all year, honestly, was if they could just squeeze their way into the playoffs, that's where like pitching, like like we we said that before, like like that's like the the seventh seed in the NHL playoffs, but they have like the Martin Brodeur kind of goalie, they can make a run.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I thought we would have had with our pitching this year, and well, we don't have that.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: So even if they would squeeze into the playoffs, it's like to what end?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, like if you don't have the if you don't have like the super secret The worst thing that could happen is if like Milwaukee or Pittsburgh win a World Series this year?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: You you want the you need the Dodgers, you definitely want the Dodgers to three Pete.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: You do everybody should be rooting for that a hundred percent because baseball needs to go away and not come back until it fixes things.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't think there's gonna be a 2027 season.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: See, I hope not happening.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: I honestly hope not.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be bored it'd be worth sacrificing if they can actually fix this sport for the first time in 30 years, but we'll see.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna take that.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: It might take two seasons to break this union.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, not that I'm rooting for the reunion.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not rooting for the union to be broken, I'm just rooting for the owners of the union to come to some sort of common sense solution that benefits everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Vote for Steve for Commissioner Make you as well.
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