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Stories of Bigfoot: With Special Guest Aaron Mugz · Spunky Spirit with Cari Mugz

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to this week's Spokey Spirit podcast.
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Speaker 1: I am Carrie Wigleston and this week I have a
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Speaker 1: special guest. So I kept promising you, promising that I
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Speaker 1: would bring on my husband because he has a couple
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Speaker 1: of Bigfoot stories that are awesome and people keep telling
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Speaker 1: me they want to hear him.
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Speaker 2: So today I even supported the Bigfoot.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 1: I have my big shirt, my big my big foot
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Speaker 1: shirt on and my bigfoot hat on. So so first
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Speaker 1: I want to introduce him. He's awesome. We met about.
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Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 1: And it was I have to say that when I
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Speaker 1: first met Aaron, he was he was awesome at telling
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Speaker 1: stories and making me feel comfortable, and he made me laugh,
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Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing. And he was so adamant
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Speaker 1: about telling everybody about this bigfoot story or these bigfoot things.
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Speaker 1: And at first I was kind of like embarrassed, but
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Speaker 1: then I was like, well, I'm a medium, and he
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Speaker 1: so idea we were going to be fine because because
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Speaker 1: I talked, I communicate with dead people and he saw bidfoot.
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Speaker 2: So honey, hello, hey, yeah we doing. I love you.
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Speaker 3: I'm so thankful. So I was finally gonna get talk.
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Speaker 4: I'm so grateful that you're here to share your to
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Speaker 4: share your stories, even though they made me laugh a
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Speaker 4: lot of time.
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Speaker 2: So so you totally believe in bigfoot, then.
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Speaker 3: That toally do I mean, it's it's crazy. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you gotta talk. I mean, these stories are they've happened
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Speaker 3: a long time ago. I think the first one I
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Speaker 3: was probably seventeen, maybe exteen, seventeen years old.
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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing is is, don't there's still like
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Speaker 2: like there's.
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Speaker 3: Still pretty big something. I remember, like it was just
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Speaker 3: like yesterday. And then the other one I was probably
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Speaker 3: in my I was probably early twenties, so yeah, okay,
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Speaker 3: and then that's the last time so ever.
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Speaker 1: Since then, though, you've kind of had a big thing
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Speaker 1: for big books, like, yeah, totally believe, Yeah, definitely totally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so tell us.
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Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is, well tell us that
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Speaker 1: when you want to tell us first, So tell.
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Speaker 3: Us that one. I'll tell the the one that was
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Speaker 3: in my when I was in my twenties because I
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Speaker 3: was out on a date, so I.
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Speaker 2: Know is because you were out of the Rexpert.
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Speaker 3: So I went up on the recor bench.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's where people go to make out, right.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, maybe that's what you call it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, we went up to the expert manch. There's a
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Speaker 3: nice little place you pull off by some spud cellars.
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Speaker 3: It's nice gravel area and it's in my pickup. And
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Speaker 3: so I just pulled off the side. And you know
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Speaker 3: how I always tell a story of to my kids.
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Speaker 3: You know, keep a little bit pg rated, you know,
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Speaker 3: so when you and I always air cooked. We're talking.
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Speaker 3: You know, apparently when you talk a lot, the windows
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Speaker 3: fog up a little bit and stuff like that, and
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Speaker 3: so i'd rolled the windows down just a little bit
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Speaker 3: of a crack, and so we're talking a little bit more,
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Speaker 3: and uh, this this girl I was with, she goes,
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Speaker 3: did you hear that? And I'm like, no, I didn't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't hear anything, so there's something outside. I'm like, no,
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Speaker 3: I think we're okay. I think there's it's fine. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, we kept talking and uh, and then she
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Speaker 3: stops again. She goes, there it is, there is something
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Speaker 3: outside this pickup and I'm like, there is nothing out here,
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Speaker 3: and I like, so I did the typical, you know,
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Speaker 3: horror movie mistake. I rolled my window down and I
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Speaker 3: stick my head out the window and go see there's
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Speaker 3: nothing out here. So and then in stead rolled up
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Speaker 3: just a crack, I only rolled it up halfway. And uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, we started, you know, talking again, and and
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Speaker 3: I heard something right by next to me, and I'm like, well,
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Speaker 3: that's kind of weird. And I'm like, and I mean,
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Speaker 3: there there there's probably something out here, you know, maybe
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Speaker 3: there's somebody out here messing with us and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: So I like, yeah, we probably should go. So, you know,
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Speaker 3: I had to turn the truck on. You know, I
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Speaker 3: had to let defraust up because you do a lot
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Speaker 3: of talking, right, it's pretty foggy for something I didn't
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Speaker 3: they can't see, and so I blend us all up,
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Speaker 3: all defraulted. So and I'm kind of pointed this way,
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Speaker 3: and so I'm going to come across onto the road
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Speaker 3: and head back to town this way. And so right up
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Speaker 3: out in front of us scout this way. It's kind
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Speaker 3: of like just this huge field and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: And so we get ready and I come wrong, and
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Speaker 3: just as a pickup hits the field, uh, just just
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Speaker 3: standing out just right where my headlights probably would have ended,
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Speaker 3: but just right where they kind of get stood a
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Speaker 3: figure about over seven feet tall, covered in hair, red eyes,
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Speaker 3: just standing there and.
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Speaker 2: She ask what color if it had colored eyes, had red.
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Speaker 3: Eyes, and she is freaking out. I mean, she's crawling
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Speaker 3: up crying, we gotta get out of here, and I
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Speaker 3: might just holy cow, there's that's big foot. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get the scene, you know, because
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Speaker 3: it's a manual stick, so I'm trying to get it
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Speaker 3: without you know, pop the clutch and letting that die.
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Speaker 3: So I was freaking out. So I just spind the
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Speaker 3: tires getting out there and got out of there as
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Speaker 3: fast as we could. So and then we just went
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Speaker 3: straight back to her house, said good night, and we
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Speaker 3: left and that was it. And then we kind of
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Speaker 3: talked about.
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Speaker 2: It later but so, and there's no possible way that
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Speaker 2: it could have been like.
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Speaker 3: A bear, like no, no bear, or somebody out there,
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Speaker 3: because we're talking, we're way out there. There's like nobody
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Speaker 3: out there. Just the way it was just weird how
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Speaker 3: you know, she could hear for a while, and I
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Speaker 3: could hear it for a while. I just it and
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Speaker 3: just when you see it in the headlights, there was
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Speaker 3: just no doubt.
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Speaker 2: So did it like chase you or did it just
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Speaker 2: if it?
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Speaker 3: Did you know, not even know? Yeah, I didn't even look.
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Speaker 3: I didn't care, I was I just sped. Yeah, it
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Speaker 3: was just out of there.
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Speaker 2: So so funny. So did you believe in books? Oh?
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Speaker 2: You did kind of believe.
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Speaker 3: I did, because that the earlier it was a different way.
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Speaker 3: You know, we desinarily didn't see at that time, but
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Speaker 3: definitely hurt and smelt it. So it's interesting this time
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Speaker 3: we were in didn't smell much. But you know, I
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Speaker 3: was just time was.
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Speaker 2: When you were younger.
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Speaker 3: I was younger. Yeah, so I was more like seventeen
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Speaker 3: friends and stuff like that. So I kind of tell
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Speaker 3: you that's why this is the story that kind of
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Speaker 3: got me a believer into that kind of looking into
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Speaker 3: stuff like that and so, and you know, other things
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Speaker 3: in my life. Because I've had a lot of life
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Speaker 3: experiences and stuff like that, it's maybe kind of believe
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Speaker 3: in this stuff.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, you ghost.
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Speaker 3: Oh I have a ghost story. Yeah, goes to my
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Speaker 3: house too. I grew up with and when I was
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Speaker 3: a kid living in my parents' house, there was a
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Speaker 3: ghost there. My brothers would talk about it too, just
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Speaker 3: roamed the house, going up down the stairs.
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Speaker 2: So you kind of had had idea experiences.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've kind of believed in it all the time.
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Speaker 2: So what was the first story?
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Speaker 1: The first one where you kind of encountered Bigfoot but
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Speaker 1: you didn't actually see it.
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Speaker 3: This No, that's time we didn't see it. So this
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Speaker 3: is where and this is where it really got me thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 3: there's some there's some crazy things out here. You know,
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Speaker 3: there's more to the world. And I think about me
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Speaker 3: see I and people kind of sometimes have the blinders
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Speaker 3: on and don't some people want.
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Speaker 1: To you know, but there's other people that like, so
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Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question before you start
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Speaker 1: your before you start your things. So some people say
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Speaker 1: that Bigfoot chooses to gets to see them like Bigfoot
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Speaker 1: And since you've seen like actually have encountered twice. Do
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Speaker 1: you think that there's like and I you know, as
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Speaker 1: a medium, I've never experienced Bigfoot that I know of.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that there's truth in that?
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Speaker 2: Do you think that there's truth in I.
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Speaker 3: Think there's some little truth to that because just all
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Speaker 3: the experiences I've had in my entire life, and know,
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Speaker 3: with the ghosts and stuff and with Bigfoot, you've actually
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Speaker 3: seen skin Walker. I've actually seen Skinwalker in real life.
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Speaker 3: I mean probably from me to you kind of skinwalker close.
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Speaker 3: It was just crazy. And so I've had all these
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Speaker 3: crazy things that happened to me. I mean, and then
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Speaker 3: you know, I meet you and get married to you,
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Speaker 3: and then I have things that visit me all the
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Speaker 3: time and I just tell them, I just kind of
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Speaker 3: ignore them and tell them to go away.
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Speaker 2: So I just to explain to my listeners.
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Speaker 1: So before we moved into an office, the reason why
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Speaker 1: we moved to an office, I used to do readings
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Speaker 1: in my house. We had a little room in the
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Speaker 1: back to do readings in and at night time, Like
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Speaker 1: sometimes the spirits will come the night before to visit
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Speaker 1: because they know there are people that are comming to
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Speaker 1: get readings the next day coming so they'll stay. So
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Speaker 1: our room would freeze all the time, would be so cold,
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Speaker 1: and he would have experiences that night with some of
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Speaker 1: the ghosts up, some of the spirits that were coming
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Speaker 1: to visit others.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, i'd smell like perfume. That I know. She doesn't.
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Speaker 3: That female one, Yeah, the only one kept bugging me.
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Speaker 2: You're like, there's somebody here, and I believe.
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Speaker 3: If they know you're not going to pay him attention,
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Speaker 3: they kind of leave you alone. So that's kind of
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Speaker 3: what I did. I just can't ignore him because I didn't,
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Speaker 3: you know, right, Sometimes you just want me bug byes.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so just get your first.
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Speaker 3: In first one. This is where you know, call your
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Speaker 3: teenage boys. There's like three of us and my friend's dad.
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Speaker 3: I own some It's up Wave Up. I think it's
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Speaker 3: in Chalice Yelstone somewhere. It's it's crazy. I can't remember
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Speaker 3: where it's at, but it's up in the mountains. He
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Speaker 3: owns a claim and really, uh, the only way to
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Speaker 3: get to it is his It's gated and so the
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Speaker 3: only way really gets four reel drive. I mean, we're talking.
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Speaker 3: This is a sketchy road and what do you use
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Speaker 3: this mine for? So's it's kind of a mine claim
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Speaker 3: kind of thing, and he had he's doing decorative rock
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Speaker 3: and so he's pretty much just doing rock freeze for
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Speaker 3: his house and some of the people in the family's houses.
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Speaker 3: I think the eventually he was going to turn into
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Speaker 3: a business, but I don't know if it ever went anyway.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, uh so we and he has this camp
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Speaker 3: trailer that he parked up there, and because the roads
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Speaker 3: are so bad, he pretty much leaves us up there.
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Speaker 3: They can't move and stuff like that, so it stays
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Speaker 3: up there year round and stuff. So he just went
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Speaker 3: in his eyes. So anyway, he had this huge boulder
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Speaker 3: because they can't get cranes or big tractors up and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. So we had to make shift this
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Speaker 3: you know, pulley thing system that tried to get this
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Speaker 3: one boulder he wanted onto the trailer, and so he
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Speaker 3: needed so my friend needed us, and another friend and
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Speaker 3: the dad and him all together needed to help to
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Speaker 3: you know, get this boulder. And so so this is
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Speaker 3: the first time we've been up there, and so he
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Speaker 3: went up there. We you know, just kind of missed
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Speaker 3: around then we got ready for bed that night, and
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Speaker 3: then he's going to do the boulder thing the next morning.
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Speaker 3: But uh so it's probably you know, teenage boys. You know,
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Speaker 3: I felt bad for my friend's dad. He'd probably wanted
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Speaker 3: to sleep, and we're just stop talking and it probably
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Speaker 3: live them through the midnight. We're still just in the camper.
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Speaker 3: It's like August, so it's like hot, I mean, it's hot,
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Speaker 3: so we have all the windows open the camper and
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Speaker 3: we're just kind of talking stuff, and then all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, out in the distance, it was like, I'd say,
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Speaker 3: like a young male voice boy or whatever, teenage boy
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Speaker 3: just starts yelling, just yells at us, really like, and
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Speaker 3: you could tell it was soundly human. It almost sounds human,
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Speaker 3: I mean. And then once we started, we stopped talking
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Speaker 3: to listen for it. It would stop. Okay, that's kind
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Speaker 3: of weird. And then we'd start talking. Did you guys
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Speaker 3: hear that? You know, we start talking to each other,
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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it'd go again, but this
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Speaker 3: time it was closer, and then all sudden this smell.
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Speaker 3: It was probably the most awful smell I've ever smelled
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Speaker 3: my entire life. I mean, you're tucking you know, two
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Speaker 3: week old gym short bags that's never been open, and
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Speaker 3: watch wet smell.
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Speaker 2: But what I find interesting is that you didn't smell
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Speaker 2: in the second.
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Speaker 3: I know, the second time, we never smelled him, which
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Speaker 3: is kind of weird. This time, man, it was like
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Speaker 3: wet dog, dead animals. You know, it was the most
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Speaker 3: and we it was so bad we could not breathe.
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Speaker 3: It was almost where he had to throw up. So
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Speaker 3: we're closing all the you know, the windows in the
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Speaker 3: camper and it just you know, it's so hot. But
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Speaker 3: we still had to do it. And every time we
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Speaker 3: would start talking, it would just start yelling. It got
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Speaker 3: closer and closer, and then when we stopped to listen
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Speaker 3: for it, it was quick and it was just crazy,
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Speaker 3: and we're like, there's no way anybody could be up here.
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Speaker 3: There's no way. And so so my friend's dad, you know,
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Speaker 3: he's he's he's kind of interesting, you know, and he
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Speaker 3: gets up, you know, he's he's done with this, and
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Speaker 3: he he grabs his shotgun and he's, you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: coming after you. You know, he'd busts open the camera
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Speaker 3: door and he runs out and here's something to take
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Speaker 3: off through the trees and you know again.
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Speaker 2: So you actually heard it take off.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to take off. So we got up
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Speaker 3: the next morning and went out and you can't there,
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Speaker 3: you can't tell us anything.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask if you saw anything in
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Speaker 1: the morning, because you've never talked about that part.
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Speaker 2: There was nothing, no track, there's.
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Speaker 3: No tracks, nothing. We couldn't find hair, we could find
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Speaker 3: broken branches. I mean it was pretty thick up there too.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's a pretty thick thing until you get
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Speaker 3: up on top of the mountain where the claim is.
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Speaker 3: But where he's got the camper and stuff, I mean
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Speaker 3: it's thick trees, a lot of brush and stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: and so I mean, I have made noise when it
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Speaker 3: took off. But we went out looked everywhere for footprints
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Speaker 3: anything like that. We don't find anything. So we talked
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Speaker 3: about the whole day and as we're trying that, you know,
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Speaker 3: what did the dad think? Did you know? He wouldn't
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Speaker 3: talk much about it. I don't think you know. I
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Speaker 3: think you I think you knew what it was, but
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Speaker 3: you know, I think got back you got I think
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Speaker 3: this is back in what late eighties, early ninth Yeah, Oh, yes,
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Speaker 3: the late eighties early nineties.
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Speaker 2: You are older than Yeah, you are old. So I'm
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Speaker 2: in the seventies, you're the eighties.
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Speaker 3: No, I was born in the seventies two.
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Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Three years different, but still.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, Yeah, I think he he kept himself a
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Speaker 3: little bit. You know, he doesn't want you talk much
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Speaker 3: about it, but we men, we just talked about the
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Speaker 3: whole time, and we talked about it when we went
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Speaker 3: back to school and stuff like that, and uh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: kind of left it there and then you know, i'd
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Speaker 3: really think much about it, but you know, it comes interested,
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Speaker 3: looked into him things like.
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Speaker 1: That, and so it was, yeah, that's actually pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: So I wasn't I wasn't going to bring this stuff up.
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Speaker 1: We hadn't talked about it. But do you mind I
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Speaker 1: forgot and I didn't forget because it's like a big
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Speaker 1: part of you. But but do you mind talking a
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Speaker 1: little bit about this skin? I mean when you went
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Speaker 1: on your.
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Speaker 3: Well, I got one more big before a story. I
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Speaker 3: loved it because so my other friend, his brother in
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Speaker 3: law lived, you know, lives out in Roberts had a
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Speaker 3: dairy out and the Roberts area and that's kind of
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Speaker 3: telling my stories and stuff like that. I said, well,
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Speaker 3: I heard a story from ranch hand that we just
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Speaker 3: hired that used to work out in the Hammer area
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Speaker 3: and you used to you know, bayl and Hay and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. And so his story goes, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much because you know, I understand
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Speaker 3: this is the second hand, So the second third hand,
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Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, this is that's just interesting.
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Speaker 3: Trust the source. Yeah, because you know, he told me
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Speaker 3: about I told him about mind so him telling me.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, Uh, this kid, he's probably in his mid twenties,
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Speaker 3: you know, out there helping holland Hay, you know, and
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Speaker 3: he's doing on a flat bed semi and he pulls
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Speaker 3: up into the field so it's got done. It's kind
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Speaker 3: of dusk, so it's kind of just coming down. He
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Speaker 3: pulls into the field, check on things, check out the tractor,
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Speaker 3: stuff like that, and he knowses the tractor lights are on.
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Speaker 3: He's like, oh, that's kind of weird. So he pulls
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Speaker 3: into the field, gets the truck up there right next
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Speaker 3: to the tractor, and the story goes that he sees
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Speaker 3: this figure walking towards him, towards his truck and I
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Speaker 3: was gotand he's in the semi, so you know, they're
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Speaker 3: pretty tall. And this is how he explains that this
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Speaker 3: figure starts walking towards him and it walks up to
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Speaker 3: the window of the semi and not even standing flat
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Speaker 3: on the ground, not even standing on the running boards.
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Speaker 3: It hits the window about chess levels, so the thing,
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Speaker 3: this thing can look right into the window of the semi.
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Speaker 3: And he explains that as soon as he came up
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Speaker 3: to the window, it calls him by his full name
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Speaker 3: and says, are you scared yet? I'll say so, this
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Speaker 3: kid's freaking out because you know, and he explains, it's
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Speaker 3: covered in hair, same thing, beat red eyes. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: the weird I've never heard about it before. This is
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Speaker 3: kind of a different one. Calling him by his full
15:25
Speaker 3: name and as covered hair, smelled, all that kind of
15:28
Speaker 3: stuff you hear normally, And it just taunted him the
15:31
Speaker 3: whole time. And so he's trying to get the semi
15:33
Speaker 3: backed up a little bit and turned around, and the
15:35
Speaker 3: whole time the thing's just kind of walking with him,
15:38
Speaker 3: and as soon as he gets turned around to get
15:39
Speaker 3: up enough speed, thing jumps up onto the running boards
15:41
Speaker 3: just kind of hanging there and just sitting there calling
15:43
Speaker 3: my name and just kind of said, are you scared yet?
15:46
Speaker 3: And he just mad, he's just terrified. Anyway, he gets
15:49
Speaker 3: out of the field and he gets up onto the
15:50
Speaker 3: road and he gets up. He said, he figure he's
15:53
Speaker 3: got about sixty sixty five miles an hour and that
15:55
Speaker 3: thing and the thing jumps off and starts running alongside
15:59
Speaker 3: of me on all fours and as the fast red
16:02
Speaker 3: went it finally took off and hit it off into
16:04
Speaker 3: the desert, off and meat. He says. The story goes
16:07
Speaker 3: that he drove directly to his boss's house, tells a
16:09
Speaker 3: story in tears and says he quits and we'll never
16:13
Speaker 3: look out there again. Yeah, he'll never work out there again.
16:15
Speaker 2: So do you both again? So do you what do
16:21
Speaker 2: you feel?
16:21
Speaker 1: Do you feel like because you we watch Bigfoot movies
16:24
Speaker 1: all the time, they're alien.
16:27
Speaker 3: Or do you I think they are. I think there's
16:28
Speaker 3: no way they can disappear like that. I think there's
16:30
Speaker 3: portals around or some way that they're able to move
16:33
Speaker 3: without me and detected. I think there's there's there must
16:36
Speaker 3: be certain areas that they can move and transport themselves
16:40
Speaker 3: without being.
16:41
Speaker 1: I kind of believe that too, because a lot of
16:42
Speaker 1: times when there's big foot sightings, there's orbs or there's
16:45
Speaker 1: some sort of like sightings around too, So I kind
16:48
Speaker 1: of believe that too.
16:49
Speaker 2: And I've heard stories too where some.
16:51
Speaker 1: Are good and some are about I heard ones with
16:53
Speaker 1: red eyes aren't great, but some of the yellow eyes
16:55
Speaker 1: are Okay, they're right, So that's interesting. So what do
17:00
Speaker 1: you do you think you see?
17:02
Speaker 3: You know, I always because I hope it's not the word.
17:07
Speaker 3: It's familiar enough that he comes up and talks to me.
17:10
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's crazy the experiences and some of
17:13
Speaker 3: the you know, the other stories that I hear about.
17:15
Speaker 3: It's it's it's crazy that well.
17:17
Speaker 1: And the thing that crazy is crazy to me is
17:19
Speaker 1: you will, like so even like when you start new
17:23
Speaker 1: jobs or you start when you meet new people, you'll
17:25
Speaker 1: tell the story because it's not like you're embarrassed because
17:28
Speaker 1: it actually, you know, like you tell it with such
17:31
Speaker 1: confidence that you know it actually happened. It's not like
17:33
Speaker 1: and the story never deviates like it always is the
17:36
Speaker 1: same story.
17:37
Speaker 2: There's no change in it, right.
17:39
Speaker 1: But you've also had experiences with skinwalkers, which you kind
17:42
Speaker 1: of don't really like to talk about a lot because
17:44
Speaker 1: you feel like if it gives the attention.
17:45
Speaker 3: Yes, skinwalkers are different, that's a that's a different kind
17:48
Speaker 3: of evil. And you know there's a lot of legends
17:51
Speaker 3: out there and you hear a lot of things about
17:52
Speaker 3: skinwalkers and the different.
17:54
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell the story if you don't
17:55
Speaker 2: want to.
17:55
Speaker 1: But ironically, I do kind of want my listeners to
17:57
Speaker 1: know that it did happen on your misship.
17:59
Speaker 3: I did. It was my mission, the s Mission Albuquerque,
18:03
Speaker 3: New Mexico. This is out in Tesnospas, Arizona, which is
18:07
Speaker 3: just south of Four Corners. It's just a little town.
18:09
Speaker 3: They have a trading post right there on the Indian
18:12
Speaker 3: Reservation Navajos. And you know when I first went out there,
18:16
Speaker 3: my mission president's first thing he warned me about.
18:20
Speaker 2: Awesome thing.
18:20
Speaker 1: Because if the if the mission president had to warn
18:22
Speaker 1: you about it, then it's like, yeah, it's.
18:24
Speaker 3: Pretty much that. Don't talk to him. He says. They
18:26
Speaker 3: are very evil. They'll try and talk and stuff. You
18:29
Speaker 3: know I talked about, you know, they could possess you
18:31
Speaker 3: and things like that there. I mean, their whole point
18:33
Speaker 3: they like to tease, you know, missionaries they like to
18:36
Speaker 3: tease the church people stuff like that. In fact, the
18:37
Speaker 3: area is going to actually had to be closed because
18:42
Speaker 3: just skinwalkers just messing around stuff like that. And so
18:44
Speaker 3: they finally reopened it, and they sent me and my
18:46
Speaker 3: senior companion back out there to open the area back up.
18:49
Speaker 1: And so the thing that interests me the most about
18:52
Speaker 1: that too, is that a lot of people that you
18:55
Speaker 1: taught or that you were, you're the people that you
18:58
Speaker 1: visited during your they totally believed.
19:01
Speaker 3: Well they told all of them believe out there and
19:02
Speaker 3: they'll taste theirs. I have so many stories about Skinwalker's
19:04
Speaker 3: out there, so.
19:05
Speaker 1: That would be like a whole nother pers a whole
19:07
Speaker 1: other podcast episode.
19:09
Speaker 3: But it is crazy some of the things you hear
19:12
Speaker 3: out there and the things that happened on in your reservation,
19:16
Speaker 3: they're true belief and stuff like that.
19:17
Speaker 1: And it's an interesting too that me and you are
19:20
Speaker 1: big fans of Skinwalker Ranch. Ye, and a lot of
19:24
Speaker 1: the stuff that happens at Skinwalker Ranch is exactly some
19:27
Speaker 1: of this stuff you you went through or you experienced
19:31
Speaker 1: with Bigfoot and and on your mission correct correct, Yeah, Yeah.
19:36
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff and you know, you talk
19:38
Speaker 3: about frequency and all that kinds of things. You know,
19:40
Speaker 3: you talk about me, maybe you know I'm on a
19:42
Speaker 3: different frequency with some things.
19:43
Speaker 2: Yeah I can.
19:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe they know that and they like to
19:47
Speaker 3: come check it out. But so, yeah, warned about I
19:50
Speaker 3: think i'd been there in this area, we'll tell it
19:52
Speaker 3: real quick, in this area, and it was our p day.
19:55
Speaker 3: We'd probably been there maybe two weeks something like that,
19:58
Speaker 3: and kind of known some of the members and a
20:00
Speaker 3: lot of the kids. It was on our PDA. They
20:02
Speaker 3: wanted to go play ball. So they have this area.
20:05
Speaker 3: It's kind of a subdivision that the government provides for
20:09
Speaker 3: Native Americans who they can live for free houses and
20:10
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Had nice park and stuff like that.
20:12
Speaker 3: So we went there to go play basketball. They kind
20:14
Speaker 3: of messed around stuff like that. Anyway, we're there with
20:17
Speaker 3: the kids. We had to pick up you know, stuff
20:19
Speaker 3: like that. Took them down there and was playing basketball.
20:21
Speaker 3: And also one of the kids noticed this wolf like
20:25
Speaker 3: dog coming down the you know, so we got we're
20:27
Speaker 3: right here. So the playground, we're at the Blacktops right,
20:30
Speaker 3: you're playing basketball, and then there's a road that goes
20:32
Speaker 3: out and then we kind of go around this way
20:33
Speaker 3: and head out to the road. Well, there was a
20:35
Speaker 3: wolf like dog. He notices and this kid immediately it says,
20:38
Speaker 3: that's a skin walker. And all the other kids look
20:40
Speaker 3: and they all start screaming. Already they know us, and
20:45
Speaker 3: so you know, you get that, you know on the
20:47
Speaker 3: back of your neck, your hair stands, you know, you
20:49
Speaker 3: knew something evil was coming. Yeah, and my companion we
20:52
Speaker 3: all instantly let's get the truck. So he jumps in
20:54
Speaker 3: the driver's seat. I jump in the back of you know,
20:56
Speaker 3: the truck with all the kids and they're just crying.
20:58
Speaker 3: I mean they're freaking out because there they was out
21:01
Speaker 3: of shadowed doubt and they knew, they knew it's a skinwalker.
21:05
Speaker 3: And so this wolf like dog he starts coming towards
21:07
Speaker 3: the truck and my companion gets it all going and
21:09
Speaker 3: he gets it started and starts moving. Well, it comes
21:11
Speaker 3: around this side of the truck, and the weirdest thing
21:14
Speaker 3: is this thing just stared right at me. I mean,
21:17
Speaker 3: it would just kept staring the whole way as it walked,
21:20
Speaker 3: and the kids every time got this side of the truck,
21:22
Speaker 3: they're moving over this side of the truck. I'm trying
21:24
Speaker 3: and they're just trying to hold on to me to
21:26
Speaker 3: try to protect them, and and way he finally goes
21:28
Speaker 3: to the back of the truck as we get up
21:30
Speaker 3: speed and stuff like that, and it starts walking towards
21:32
Speaker 3: the truck and just kept walking. And if I end
21:34
Speaker 3: a seat in my own eyes, I would not believe
21:36
Speaker 3: it to this day, but I started walking and then
21:39
Speaker 3: all of a sudden disappeared.
21:41
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
21:41
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I don't know where it went.
21:44
Speaker 3: It just all says it gone. It was gone completely,
21:47
Speaker 3: and it was the craziest thing I've ever seen in
21:49
Speaker 3: my entire life. And they so they would never go back.
21:52
Speaker 1: Do you remember when I'm not going to mention which one,
21:54
Speaker 1: but you remember when one of our sons had the
21:56
Speaker 1: experience of seeing skinwalker like. It wasn't very far from
21:59
Speaker 1: our house even, and didn't he come like running in
22:02
Speaker 1: the house terrified and said that he saw like and
22:05
Speaker 1: then what did he just saw this like wolf like?
22:07
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden it turned into yeah, he
22:10
Speaker 1: was terrified.
22:10
Speaker 2: You remember that? Ye?
22:11
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know they talk about they do. They shape shift,
22:14
Speaker 3: They can turn into whatever animal.
22:15
Speaker 2: Most of them skin walk a ranches. They can shape shift.
22:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, they choose different animals and there's different legends out
22:20
Speaker 3: there that I was told about, and uh, you know
22:23
Speaker 3: they have every power of you know, satan is what
22:25
Speaker 3: they say, you know, like shape shift. They can run
22:28
Speaker 3: as fast as they want, they can.
22:30
Speaker 2: Can you think that like there's good ones and bad ones?
22:33
Speaker 3: There is no snow. I don't think that thing. You
22:35
Speaker 3: don't think so I don't think there's anything good in that. Yeah,
22:38
Speaker 3: because some of the things I've heard about it's crazy.
22:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I know, like same stories on Skinwalker
22:45
Speaker 1: Ranch they would have see wolves and then they would
22:48
Speaker 1: like they would see wolves walking on their hind like
22:50
Speaker 1: were wolves. Yeah, that's crazy. So that's awesome. So you
22:55
Speaker 1: think that, well, I kind of hope. I mean, here's
22:58
Speaker 1: the thing. It's kind of a scary thing. But at
23:00
Speaker 1: the same time, I kind of hope we have maybe
23:03
Speaker 1: not with Skinwalkers, but I kind of hope me and
23:05
Speaker 1: you have more adventures like that.
23:07
Speaker 3: Well, we have said we're gonna do a lot more
23:09
Speaker 3: camp next year, so I know.
23:11
Speaker 1: But I get scared because because you're a big foot magnet.
23:15
Speaker 4: You're like a big foot magnet. Remember I told you
23:17
Speaker 4: I didn't watch it because I was afraid of favorite
23:19
Speaker 4: by you.
23:20
Speaker 3: Said we're going to get abductive. That's what you said, Alien,
23:23
Speaker 3: They're gonna visit.
23:26
Speaker 2: We actually should make our own podcast. It would be hilarious.
23:31
Speaker 4: I would like fine stories to tell you and you'd
23:33
Speaker 4: be like, what the heck.
23:34
Speaker 2: So well, I am so grateful that you came on.
23:37
Speaker 2: We've been planning this for long.
23:38
Speaker 3: We have been We've been talking about this so long,
23:41
Speaker 3: and it's.
23:41
Speaker 1: Just been hard because we've been so busy with the
23:43
Speaker 1: last three months with redoing our house and the baby
23:46
Speaker 1: coming and the wedding, all the schedules. So thank you
23:50
Speaker 1: for coming today. Hopefully we'll do this again. Stories, And
23:58
Speaker 1: one last thing before you go it do you think
24:01
Speaker 1: just personalities a site like marriage's marriage?
24:03
Speaker 2: But do you think that.
24:06
Speaker 1: Is it weird living with the medium sometimes like when
24:09
Speaker 1: I did, like when I did do readings in the house.
24:12
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I mean it's it was
24:14
Speaker 3: kind of cool that how we met. I think everything
24:16
Speaker 3: was it was meant to be, and and it was
24:19
Speaker 3: higher plane to make sure we meant I met because
24:21
Speaker 3: I think you know, with the backgrounds of mece, you know,
24:25
Speaker 3: Bigfoot and seeing ghost stuff like that, and you your
24:27
Speaker 3: mediumship and stuff like that. I think it was just
24:28
Speaker 3: I had to have somebody here. You had to have
24:30
Speaker 3: somebody that would leave them both. And so I know,
24:33
Speaker 3: it's been kind of cool.
24:34
Speaker 1: It's been really cool, cool experiences like I don't really
24:37
Speaker 1: ever share the readings with you, but it's cool that
24:40
Speaker 1: it's some of the experiences that we've had.
24:43
Speaker 3: So I got told one, remember the X Files one.
24:46
Speaker 3: So me and Cary grew up watching X Files back
24:48
Speaker 3: in the day, right when we loved X Files rely,
24:51
Speaker 3: and they decided, remember these said come out with new episodes,
24:55
Speaker 3: and so it's just us. I don't know how we
24:56
Speaker 3: got a night without any kids.
24:58
Speaker 2: There was I still doing readings and that I think.
25:00
Speaker 3: Reads in the house and uh so we got went downstairs.
25:04
Speaker 3: We turned it on to watch some new episodes of
25:06
Speaker 3: the X Files, and there was a whole light that's
25:09
Speaker 3: just past the entertainment center and it went turned it off,
25:12
Speaker 3: and it got sat down and the X File music
25:14
Speaker 3: came on and we just got set down in the
25:17
Speaker 3: X File movie. That's the music came on and remember
25:20
Speaker 3: and then also the whole light turned back on and
25:23
Speaker 3: I looked at you and Michael, that's kind of weird.
25:24
Speaker 3: So positive, TV go back up, we turn the whole
25:28
Speaker 3: light back off and unpositive, and soon as I'm positive,
25:32
Speaker 3: the whole light came back on. So I'm like, well,
25:34
Speaker 3: I guess we're not watching this. So we turned the
25:36
Speaker 3: lights back on and we never went back and we
25:39
Speaker 3: never watched it.
25:40
Speaker 2: Listen to the signs like we know. Yeah, I think too.
25:43
Speaker 1: We did have more activity in the house when I
25:45
Speaker 1: did readings, Yes, definitely, definitely, yeah, And that's kind of
25:47
Speaker 1: why we moved to That's why we decided I had
25:49
Speaker 1: to get an office because we were having too much
25:53
Speaker 1: paranormal activity in our house, so we moved my office.
25:56
Speaker 1: And now I do have to admit I do when
25:59
Speaker 1: I come into my office every morning or when I
26:01
Speaker 1: come in, I can feel the spirits that are waiting
26:03
Speaker 1: for the people, Like when you're in my office, can
26:05
Speaker 1: you kind of yeah, you can feel it too, so
26:08
Speaker 1: it's weak.
26:09
Speaker 3: You probably go all there's that guy that ignores us,
26:13
Speaker 3: because I'm like, Hi, Hi, everybody, figure up the old dude.
26:19
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love you, thank you so much
26:23
Speaker 4: having on and I'm sure that I'm gonna love this it.
26:25
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