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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm just super blessed to be in this position, very thankful,
- 0:04Speaker 1: exciting to be a part of an organization like the
- 0:06Speaker 1: Jaguars up.
- 0:07Speaker 2: And telling the league. I just I can't wait to
- 0:09Speaker 2: get there and make plays.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters Draft recap podcast for Day two.
- 0:15Speaker 3: In our Day two coverage presented by Dream Finders Home Sheep, Shadwick,
- 0:19Speaker 3: Kai Stevens, John Osier, the Jaguars added two players. They
- 0:24Speaker 3: now have ten picks on the docket for Saturday. To
- 0:28Speaker 3: go with that, we'll get to that coming up a
- 0:30Speaker 3: little bit later. Let's start by moving back again in
- 0:33Speaker 3: the second round to the sixty first pick, and they
- 0:36Speaker 3: pick up Penn State tight end Brenton Strange, a guy
- 0:39Speaker 3: who can block, who can catch passes. Of course, and
- 0:44Speaker 3: hearing his post pick press conference or a media call,
- 0:48Speaker 3: zoom call, whatever he was on tonight, you know he
- 0:51Speaker 3: doesn't feel like he's reached his full potential as a
- 0:53Speaker 3: football player. They utilize him a lot in the backfield.
- 0:56Speaker 3: They had two or three tight end sets a lot
- 0:59Speaker 3: at Penn State. Was a big piece of that guy.
- 1:02Speaker 3: But hey, versatility's key in this offense.
- 1:05Speaker 4: It is, and Penn State is known for developing their
- 1:07Speaker 4: tight ends. So because he's grown every single year, I'm
- 1:10Speaker 4: sure looking at him when he comes to the NFL
- 1:13Speaker 4: will think, yeah, we can get more out of him
- 1:15Speaker 4: than what he's been able to do. He himself said
- 1:17Speaker 4: he thinks he's going to get better once he gets here,
- 1:20Speaker 4: and he said he was excited to play with Evan Ingram.
- 1:22Speaker 4: That's someone he watches and kind of tries to pattern
- 1:25Speaker 4: his game after. So obviously Doug's got to be thrilled
- 1:28Speaker 4: right to have two tight ends. He feels like he
- 1:30Speaker 4: can work with again and stylistically that's something he's liked
- 1:34Speaker 4: to do in the past.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when Doug was talking about
- 1:38Speaker 1: this pick later he very casually and easily said that
- 1:42Speaker 1: he's sort of ready made for the NFL and already
- 1:46Speaker 1: made for this offense. It's what harkens back to what
- 1:49Speaker 1: we were talking about with Bucky on right after the pick,
- 1:55Speaker 1: that Doug can now use I very easily sees a
- 2:01Speaker 1: role in this offense and how he wants to use
- 2:04Speaker 1: tight ends with Evan Ingram. It's hard after a draft
- 2:09Speaker 1: because they're always gonna say positive things. But the way
- 2:11Speaker 1: Doug talked about it. I don't think there's any doubt
- 2:16Speaker 1: in their mind that this is somebody who can contribute
- 2:19Speaker 1: right away and who fits what they want to do offensively.
- 2:23Speaker 3: He could line up as a tight end just off
- 2:25Speaker 3: the tackle and block. He can line up as a fullback.
- 2:28Speaker 3: He's done that a lot at Penn State. Versatility in
- 2:31Speaker 3: this offense, can run routes obviously, can go catch down
- 2:33Speaker 3: the field.
- 2:34Speaker 2: A lot of things this guy can do.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was interesting what Bucky said again
- 2:40Speaker 1: right after the pick, when he talked about that he
- 2:44Speaker 1: can come in and be an immediate upgrade over Manhurts
- 2:48Speaker 1: and I think when you're looking at the NFL these days,
- 2:50Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about eleven starters. I don't know.
- 2:54Speaker 1: You know, it depends on what lineups you start off
- 2:58Speaker 1: the game and who's a star. But you need two
- 3:01Speaker 1: tight ends and you need different kinds of tight ends.
- 3:05Speaker 1: He will be a much more versatile player and fit
- 3:09Speaker 1: into what Doug wants to do offensively, I think in
- 3:11Speaker 1: the passing game much more than Manhurtz did. So. Yeah,
- 3:16Speaker 1: an upgrade at that spot. And as I said before
- 3:18Speaker 1: in a couple of broadcasts, I think we're starting to
- 3:21Speaker 1: see Doug after two off seasons, get the personnel in
- 3:26Speaker 1: this offense that makes sense for how he wants to
- 3:29Speaker 1: be calling plays.
- 3:32Speaker 3: If you want to go watch the best of Britain Strange,
- 3:34Speaker 3: go on YouTube and check out the Penn State Auburn
- 3:37Speaker 3: game from last year. He had six catches eighty yards
- 3:40Speaker 3: and was the lead blocker on some key runs in
- 3:43Speaker 3: that game for the running backs for Penn State. And
- 3:46Speaker 3: they blew out Auburn in that game. And it's pretty
- 3:48Speaker 3: good defensive front seven they had at Auburn.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So he didn't have huge passing.
- 3:53Speaker 2: That was his best game of the season.
- 3:54Speaker 1: But just in the brief stuff I saw of him,
- 3:59Speaker 1: he looks like he moves pretty easily through the secondary,
- 4:03Speaker 1: looks smooth as a pass catcher. I don't know that
- 4:07Speaker 1: they need him to be a thousand yard tight end,
- 4:09Speaker 1: but they need him to be a threat there, and
- 4:11Speaker 1: I think he's going to add a wrinkle that again
- 4:14Speaker 1: they didn't have. When you run two tight ends, if
- 4:17Speaker 1: both of them are pure receivers, then all of a sudden,
- 4:20Speaker 1: you're tipping your hand that you're going to run pass.
- 4:23Speaker 2: That's right.
- 4:24Speaker 1: This guy can do both, and I think he gives
- 4:26Speaker 1: him that wrinkle. Most people in the league think the
- 4:29Speaker 1: most balanced thing you can or the most balanced oviense
- 4:33Speaker 1: you can go with is two tight ends, two wide receivers.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Because you don't know what they're going to do. This
- 4:38Speaker 1: gives them a chance to go do that.
- 4:39Speaker 3: And they could line Penn State, line them up outside
- 4:42Speaker 3: occasionally would bring him in motion and then he'd come
- 4:44Speaker 3: in and block and do the he would mix up
- 4:46Speaker 3: everything and interested to see how he's used here. Now
- 4:49Speaker 3: to the third round, eighty eighth overall, and they go
- 4:53Speaker 3: running back Tank Bigsby from Auburn six foot two hundred
- 4:56Speaker 3: ten pounds three year starter. There twenty five touch sounds
- 5:00Speaker 3: in his career on the planes, nearly over a thousand
- 5:03Speaker 3: yards the last two years. He did it two seasons ago,
- 5:06Speaker 3: just below it last year. Kai, but a guy who
- 5:09Speaker 3: was really excited to be here at his post pick
- 5:12Speaker 3: press conference. In your conversation with him, and this is
- 5:16Speaker 3: a crowded running back room, but you know they're going
- 5:20Speaker 3: to run the football some around here. Even with all
- 5:22Speaker 3: these weapons on offense, some of those are in the
- 5:24Speaker 3: backfield too.
- 5:25Speaker 4: They will have no lack of options. Obviously, we get
- 5:28Speaker 4: to talk to him, Tank so excited been called tank
- 5:31Speaker 4: since he was seven, So if that tells you how
- 5:33Speaker 4: he's been running his entire career, but he seems excited
- 5:36Speaker 4: just for whatever role he'll be. Obviously he'll be running
- 5:39Speaker 4: back by committee in some form. You have some other
- 5:41Speaker 4: pieces in place with ETN and whatnot. But I think
- 5:44Speaker 4: Bucky compared him to like Legarrett Blunt kind of type
- 5:47Speaker 4: where you can get that power from him if you
- 5:48Speaker 4: need it, which John I think you mentioned had been
- 5:51Speaker 4: lacking a little bit at times for them. So to
- 5:53Speaker 4: be able to have that and really be able to
- 5:56Speaker 4: have every option at running back that you want is
- 5:58Speaker 4: I'm sure something Doug was try put together and we can't,
- 6:01Speaker 4: you know, put enough emphasis on the fact, like, yes,
- 6:04Speaker 4: they did very well offensively last season, but Doug has
- 6:06Speaker 4: only had one draft class and you know, one and
- 6:09Speaker 4: a half free agencies thus far to make a team.
- 6:11Speaker 4: So he's inherited a lot of this and he's worked
- 6:14Speaker 4: well with it, but he hasn't put his entire stamp
- 6:17Speaker 4: on it at this point.
- 6:19Speaker 1: What a difference fifteen months make. And j Peno's where
- 6:23Speaker 1: I'm going with this. If you're Trevor Lawrence in twenty
- 6:26Speaker 1: twenty one, is there anybody left that you were throwing
- 6:30Speaker 1: to or handing the ball to any of the skill players.
- 6:34Speaker 1: I mean every skill player that they run out next
- 6:38Speaker 1: year will have been in an addition in the last
- 6:41Speaker 1: two off seasons, with the exception Etn it was hurt, yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and he wasn't playing. But the point is the entire
- 6:47Speaker 1: tight end room overhaul. Luke Farrell was there, but you know,
- 6:51Speaker 1: you know what I'm getting at. It is a complete overhaul.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And what a job they have done, adding firepower, legitimate weapons.
- 7:00Speaker 1: I talked about all off season, the job they did,
- 7:03Speaker 1: adding free agents that came in and actually you know,
- 7:06Speaker 1: have contributed, but now you're adding rookies to it. A
- 7:09Speaker 1: complete overhaul of an offense that ranked tenth in the
- 7:12Speaker 1: league last year, and it's hard to imagine with more
- 7:17Speaker 1: balance it's not going to be better.
- 7:20Speaker 5: I just it's.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Unbelievable the weapons that have been added, and again we're
- 7:27Speaker 1: added tonight as well.
- 7:28Speaker 2: I've got them at seventeen and oh kay, how about you,
- 7:30Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Sure, why not? It seems plausible?
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean April twenty eighth, why not?
- 7:35Speaker 4: Oho, I'm sure, I'm sure there's more than enough listeners
- 7:39Speaker 4: that are going to be screaming about the defense still
- 7:41Speaker 4: because I've seen them already.
- 7:43Speaker 5: So I mean, and it's it's a philosophy. They're going
- 7:45Speaker 5: for it. They're going to outshoot people. That's what they're
- 7:47Speaker 5: going to try to do.
- 7:48Speaker 4: And you know, you look at the Chiefs, you look
- 7:50Speaker 4: at you know some of these high powered offenses, you're
- 7:52Speaker 4: gonna have to score more than them to win, and
- 7:55Speaker 4: good defenses against those team only hold them back a
- 7:58Speaker 4: little bit.
- 7:58Speaker 5: Right, So they're going for it.
- 8:00Speaker 3: And John, I know we've talked about this before, and
- 8:04Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna lead into what you're about to say too,
- 8:06Speaker 3: probably not. Well, I mean this is you're not gonna
- 8:09Speaker 3: have the two thousand Ravens defense, right, you know, you
- 8:12Speaker 3: don't need the two thousand Ravens defense with an offense
- 8:16Speaker 3: that's this explosive. You need a defense that's opportunistic, that
- 8:20Speaker 3: can set up the scrowp. They might give up some yardage,
- 8:23Speaker 3: but if they're taking the ball away at the cliff
- 8:25Speaker 3: they did early last season and late last season, if
- 8:28Speaker 3: they can do that for a full year, then that's
- 8:30Speaker 3: the defense you'll want.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Yeah, And first let's not forget it's not like the
- 8:35Speaker 1: Jaguars that I made a lot out of it, a
- 8:38Speaker 1: couple of our hits. It's not the Jaguars set their
- 8:41Speaker 1: last Tuesday and said hey, we're going all offense with
- 8:43Speaker 1: first three picks. There were I'm sure players that they
- 8:48Speaker 1: wanted to. You know, Trent talked a lot about it
- 8:50Speaker 1: in the you know, the post mortem that sometimes things
- 8:55Speaker 1: don't work out for you. There's players that get taken
- 8:58Speaker 1: ahead of you. There's trades you try to make that
- 9:01Speaker 1: just don't work out. This seems to me a draft
- 9:05Speaker 1: night of really truly sticking to the board, and if
- 9:10Speaker 1: a player is gone at a certain spot, then you
- 9:13Speaker 1: don't necessarily say, wow, you know, we wanted this corner
- 9:17Speaker 1: here at thirty six, whatever number they were at. So
- 9:20Speaker 1: now he's gone, so we've got to take the next corner,
- 9:23Speaker 1: come hell or high water. Well, no, take the next
- 9:26Speaker 1: player who fits something you want happen to be three.
- 9:30Speaker 1: To your point, I think no matter what they were
- 9:33Speaker 1: going to do in this draft, they had to be
- 9:36Speaker 1: all in offensively and absolutely going for it. It's going
- 9:41Speaker 1: to be a defense where breaking serve is the idea,
- 9:45Speaker 1: and I think there will be games with this offense
- 9:48Speaker 1: that you should get way ahead, and that helps your
- 9:51Speaker 1: pass rush, and there's some teams that you should blow
- 9:54Speaker 1: out with some turnovers and your offense. The question will
- 9:58Speaker 1: become when they get in tight games with the with
- 10:00Speaker 1: that approach to defense, can they stop the run? Can
- 10:03Speaker 1: they be stout? Can they get pass rushing big situations?
- 10:07Speaker 1: That to me will be the storyline for the defense
- 10:09Speaker 1: going in next season because we won't know it based
- 10:11Speaker 1: on their off season acquisitions.
- 10:12Speaker 3: All right, final thought going into Day three of this draft, well,
- 10:16Speaker 3: Trim Palke after Day two said they tried to trade
- 10:19Speaker 3: back up into round three and get rid of some
- 10:21Speaker 3: of those picks. It didn't work out, So they have
- 10:24Speaker 3: ten picks in their pocket going into Saturday.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Guy, I am actively concerned if they're going to pick
- 10:30Speaker 4: ten or if they're gonna be able to flip them.
- 10:32Speaker 4: I know John's excited because Saturday is his favorite day
- 10:34Speaker 4: of the draft every year.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Love it. It's almost as exciting as OTA's for him.
- 10:38Speaker 1: It's my Christmas, this whole.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Month ahead, this is your wheelhouse? Really is go ahead?
- 10:44Speaker 1: Now?
- 10:44Speaker 5: It's okay. I don't know what they're gonna do with this.
- 10:46Speaker 4: I mean, obviously collect all this capital, right like, oh
- 10:49Speaker 4: it can do something with this. Hopefully it's either years
- 10:52Speaker 4: to come or something. You can't pick ten people.
- 10:56Speaker 5: They pick ten people.
- 10:57Speaker 3: If they're on if they can't trade them. If they
- 11:01Speaker 3: said they would be prepared to pick ten.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Players, well he said, if you have the picks, you
- 11:04Speaker 1: gotta make it.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I guess you could.
- 11:07Speaker 1: But also take what Kai said and say, well, why
- 11:11Speaker 1: they trade back? From what I've been able to figure out,
- 11:14Speaker 1: they they've had three trade backs so far. They didn't
- 11:20Speaker 1: lose anything, meaning not getting a player they wanted with
- 11:27Speaker 1: any of those picks. Uh clear, they did with the
- 11:29Speaker 1: Giants because they swapped the bills were not coming up
- 11:34Speaker 1: to you know. My point is they got Antoine and Harrison.
- 11:37Speaker 1: They would have got him at twenty four and twenty seven.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Same thing with the picks tonight. So if you've stockpiled
- 11:42Speaker 1: and you get stuck with those picks, it's not like
- 11:44Speaker 1: you've lost anything trying to take that strategy. So, uh, well,
- 11:49Speaker 1: they picked ten. I can't imagine that. But as it was,
- 11:57Speaker 1: if there was one thing clear from Trent Balkey talking,
- 12:00Speaker 1: they tried to trade up, They tried to use those
- 12:03Speaker 1: picks and couldn't do it. Let's hope that with a
- 12:08Speaker 1: night of sleep that some of these gyms around the
- 12:10Speaker 1: league are in a little better mood to deal with
- 12:11Speaker 1: Trent tomorrow.
- 12:13Speaker 5: We can help cross our fingers.
- 12:15Speaker 1: And if there's a player out there sitting at the
- 12:17Speaker 1: top of the fourth round that's worth ten draft picks,
- 12:19Speaker 1: I say go forth.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Well, Day two at least is in the books.
- 12:23Speaker 3: The Jaguars have two more players, Brenton Strange, tied end
- 12:26Speaker 3: from Penn State in the second round, sixty first overall
- 12:29Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Running back out of Auburn eighty eighth overall pick in
- 12:33Speaker 2: the third round. I thanks to Joe for Shinado for
- 12:35Speaker 2: Guy Stevens, and John Ozer. I'm JP Shadwick.
- 12:38Speaker 3: We will catch you again on Saturday for Day three
- 12:42Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.