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STAGATE'S FUTURE: You Decide! · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: Get Into Gate, episode number... No, it's a special one,
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Speaker 1: as you can see by the title of the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Just Mitch here with a reduced episode between actual episodes. Look,
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Speaker 1: I've been out of the country. It's a hashtag blame
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Speaker 1: Mitch situation since I've gotten back into the country. Struggled
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Speaker 1: to find a little bit of a time to get
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Speaker 1: together and record episode one of season two of Stargate Universe,
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Speaker 1: which I'm very keen to get back into again. But
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Speaker 1: we wanted to get something out, and there's been a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a, I mean, if you can call
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Speaker 1: it a leak, something, a little bit of a nugget
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days as to what the
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Speaker 1: new show was going to be about before Amazon came
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Speaker 1: out and famously cancelled it! Sorry, we're still not over it.
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Speaker 1: But before that, we actually put out a post on
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Speaker 1: our Patreon asking our patrons, which actually was available to
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Speaker 1: anyone that would like to go on and visit patreon.com
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Speaker 1: forward slash get into gate. What Do you want From
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Speaker 1: New Stargate? At this point, we're not getting one. I
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Speaker 1: think it's crazy to think we're not going to get one. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the cancellation recently was about the Martin Guiro-led continuation, another
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Speaker 1: series set within the same mythology. They never come out
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Speaker 1: and said they were never... I mean, they haven't really
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Speaker 1: come out and said anything at this point, have they?
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Speaker 1: But they had cancelled that show. But it's not like
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Speaker 1: Amazon have said, we are never going to do Stargate.
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Speaker 1: new Stargate, which is the fight that a lot of
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Speaker 1: us fans have been fighting for, right? Is to get
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Speaker 1: the Stargate series that was going to come from the
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Speaker 1: heads of old. A lot of the old creatives coming
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Speaker 1: back on board to respect what was done before and
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Speaker 1: hopefully take us into a bright, brand new future for Stargate.
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Speaker 1: We're not getting that, but it has begged the question
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Speaker 1: on our podcast alone. I know that myself and Maddie
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Speaker 1: and Brendan have all shared our thoughts on And they've
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Speaker 1: kind of differed. I know that Brendan has seen some
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Speaker 1: type of silver lining in the fact that if they
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Speaker 1: were just going to come out and cancel this, you
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Speaker 1: know what, don't even bother at this point because it
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Speaker 1: sounds like it's becoming a bit of a risk that
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Speaker 1: you're just going to stain what has become such a
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Speaker 1: staple in our love of sci-fi and our love of
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Speaker 1: anything television, our favorite TV show of all time for
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Speaker 1: a lot of us. maybe it's a good thing that
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Speaker 1: Amazon aren't making this new show. As much as that
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Speaker 1: hurts to say, and I mean, nothing they do or
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Speaker 1: don't do is ever going to affect what we have
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Speaker 1: already watched and loved over the last 30 years within
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Speaker 1: the franchise. But because we do love it, we obviously
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Speaker 1: want to see more. So we put out a post
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Speaker 1: on our Patreon page. Again, jump on board, patreon.com forward
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Speaker 1: slash get into gate. You decide what's next for Stargate.
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Speaker 1: Just to sort of see, hey, beyond us three idiots,
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Speaker 1: what do you guys want? Where do you feel like
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Speaker 1: You want this future to go. Are you also happy
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Speaker 1: that Prime didn't go ahead at all? Are you happy
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Speaker 1: they didn't go ahead with the Martin Giro-led series? Would
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Speaker 1: you like to see it go somewhere else? Would you
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Speaker 1: like to just see it end now and maybe never
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Speaker 1: get another Stargate and just continue to love what we've
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Speaker 1: already been given in the past? Craig, who's only on
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Speaker 1: the podcast over the last two episodes, was first to
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Speaker 1: chime in and said, Personally, I wanted the Giro-led Stargate.
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Speaker 1: Keep the established continuity and don't erase what we all love.
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Speaker 1: Anything else is a slap in the face to longtime fans. Now,
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Speaker 1: it was the first comment to come through, but it
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Speaker 1: was also the one that garnered the most likes from
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Speaker 1: people who saw it. And, look, let's be honest. We
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Speaker 1: spent six months thinking we were getting this build-on from
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Speaker 1: the established continuity. We got used to the idea. We
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Speaker 1: got used to the idea of who was writing it.
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Speaker 1: And it makes the most sense, right? Like, I know
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Speaker 1: that Stargate was just one small piece of a giant
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Speaker 1: bundle that is MGM that Amazon Prime bought. But why
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Speaker 1: would you go to the trouble of buying all of
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Speaker 1: these franchises if only to put aside what made them
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Speaker 1: successful in the first place? James Bond is absolutely the
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Speaker 1: biggest fish among that barrel. I know people are worried
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Speaker 1: about them making it to PC or woke James Bond
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Speaker 1: in the 2020s when they do come to make a
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Speaker 1: new film or new TV spinoffs or whatever. But they
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Speaker 1: can also only change it so much without it costing
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Speaker 1: them serious dollars in the long run. They seem to think, though,
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Speaker 1: that they can change Stargate without costing them what established
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Speaker 1: fans would have brought back in. Now, we've already covered
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Speaker 1: this a bunch of times in the podcast. I don't
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Speaker 1: need to go on about it again. We all think
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Speaker 1: it's absolutely ridiculous. But I would argue that the idea
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Speaker 1: that Stargate is too niche to worry about having to
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Speaker 1: please the fans is almost exactly why you do do it.
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Speaker 1: It is niche enough that you can build on it
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Speaker 1: and get this new audience that Giro's show was, according
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Speaker 1: to those who knew what it was, going to bring in.
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Speaker 1: while also not costing you the fans that you have
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Speaker 1: seemingly pissed off since early June. Craig's comments were backed up.
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Speaker 1: 100% yes. Now, are we ever going to see that? No,
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Speaker 1: he might just have to let us know one day,
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Speaker 1: but it's not like it's ever going to be released officially.
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Speaker 1: Would I be okay with a show done by someone
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Speaker 1: else from the original crew as showrunner like Joe? Yes,
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Speaker 1: even Robert C. Cooper. And that's the thing, right? I
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Speaker 1: think if we would have gotten to a stage where
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Speaker 1: Amazon said, you're either going to get something brand new
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Speaker 1: with no one who's ever touched it before or Robert C. Cooper.
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Speaker 1: We have spent the better part of a decade having
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Speaker 1: a lovingly joke shitting on Robert C. Cooper. But would
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Speaker 1: we prefer that over someone who's never touched or looked
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Speaker 1: at the franchise before? Absolutely not. Nicholas continues, do I
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Speaker 1: want episodes of the week, 16 to 20 episode seasons
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Speaker 1: with overarching plots like SG-1 and Atlantis? Yes. Or would
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Speaker 1: I be happy with a more serialized show like Universe
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Speaker 1: or Battlestar Galactica or Picard season three? Yes. He even
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Speaker 1: gave himself a that's one. I don't know that we're
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Speaker 1: in a position where anything beyond a network sitcom is
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Speaker 1: going to give us 20 or 20 plus episode seasons,
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Speaker 1: but I don't mind the idea of something like 16.
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Speaker 1: I think in there, you can absolutely have the overarching
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Speaker 1: plot while also having those, for lack of a better word,
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Speaker 1: filler episodes. Having said that, we've talked a lot about
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Speaker 1: through our SGU watch that this is more like what
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Speaker 1: these sort of shows are made to be like. in
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Speaker 1: the current TV landscape. We are going to get something
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Speaker 1: a little bit more personal-driven, a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: a serialized season where it's one continuous story just broken
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Speaker 1: up into chapters. So it's probably a good thing, despite
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Speaker 1: it being a bit of a left turn for established
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Speaker 1: SG fans back in the late 2000s. The fact that
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Speaker 1: we did get that change in the franchise back then
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Speaker 1: makes that if they do something similar now, just that
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Speaker 1: little bit easier to take in. Nicholas wraps this up
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Speaker 1: by saying, but at the end of the day, all
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Speaker 1: that truly matters is that it respects the current canon
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Speaker 1: and doesn't throw all this legacy away for a reboot,
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Speaker 1: which yet we've already established would be such a waste.
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Speaker 1: We're talking 17 seasons, three films, even though the first
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Speaker 1: movie is, you know, not exactly where the show ended
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Speaker 1: up going. just to reboot and start again in the
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Speaker 1: hope that you're going to capture some of that love
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Speaker 1: and passion that the original franchise established over, what, 17
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Speaker 1: year period? P.S. What I want from Get Into Gate
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Speaker 1: is for you to cover the animated series because it's
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Speaker 1: awful and I want to listen to you all give
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Speaker 1: it your special kind of love. Now, when I read that, Nick,
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Speaker 1: I think about the fact that we covered Origins and
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Speaker 1: we shat all over that as legacy fans of the franchise.
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Speaker 1: Rhys also watched it as a newcomer to the franchise
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Speaker 1: And also shat on it because he realized that it
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Speaker 1: was a pile of shit. So are you suggesting that
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Speaker 1: we're going to be giving it that sort of love?
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Speaker 1: Or are you more talking that it's like baseline Stargate episodes,
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Speaker 1: whether they be SG-1, SGA, or SGU? Because if you're
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Speaker 1: suggesting to me, as someone who has never seen a
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Speaker 1: second of Stargate Infinity, that it is on par with
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Speaker 1: Stargate Origins, we are in for a real treat. I'm
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Speaker 1: open to it. I don't care if we watch one
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Speaker 1: episode or maybe we watch the whole season and we
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Speaker 1: do one podcast episode on it. I could almost categorically
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Speaker 1: promise you that we are not going to do one
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Speaker 1: podcast per one episode of that show. That's just not
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Speaker 1: going to happen. But I'd be keen just to even
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Speaker 1: have a look at one episode just to see what
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Speaker 1: it's like. So we'll keep it in the suggestion box.
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Speaker 1: John Louthar, he writes in, here's my pitch for the
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Speaker 1: next iteration of Stargate. A small team of mercenary types
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Speaker 1: uses found or recovered alien techs such as the alternate
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Speaker 1: reality drive from SGA Season 5's Daedalus Variations episode, SG-1's
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Speaker 1: first season's Quantum Mirror, and the time travel drive from
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Speaker 1: SG-1 to track down people that do not belong in
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Speaker 1: other realities, timelines, and the like. They come up with
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Speaker 1: some alternate realities that we've seen, and past, present, and
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Speaker 1: future friends and foes to connect it back to the
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Speaker 1: original three series. They loosely work under the SGC, which
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Speaker 1: is now housed on the Moon base. The team consists of,
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Speaker 1: and led by, Cloniel from Fragile Ground in SG-1, and
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Speaker 1: Unus with a Tok'ra symbiote, a replicata created by an
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Speaker 1: alternate reality Sam Carter and Rodney McKay that were an
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Speaker 1: item and couldn't have children, so McKay did the next
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Speaker 1: best thing, a member of the Veneer, which of course
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Speaker 1: is the Pegasus Galaxy Asgard types, with the spacesuit first
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Speaker 1: seen in SGA Season 5's First Contact, and a Wraith
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Speaker 1: hybrid from the Pegasus Galaxy. It's ragtag all the way,
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Speaker 1: they don't get along, they all have egos and their
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Speaker 1: own moral beliefs from very different walks of life. However,
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Speaker 1: the SGC has something on all of them that keeps
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Speaker 1: them under control to a degree so that they have
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Speaker 1: to play the game. It's a dark time for the SGC,
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Speaker 1: they've made mistakes and relocated to the moon to get
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Speaker 1: away from the public eye. Maybe the Lucian Alliance finally
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Speaker 1: unveiled the Stargate to the general public while the Destiny
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Speaker 1: crew has been in stasis, which sounds a little bit
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Speaker 1: like a not to spoil anything for Mitch, but we
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Speaker 1: push on. People are upset and more and more comes
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Speaker 1: out about the SGC's history and the US's unilateral control
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Speaker 1: over its operations. Tech Mate, John Louther from San Diego. John,
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Speaker 1: my first thought is that is a lot. Interesting. summary,
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Speaker 1: what am I taking? That it is consisted of a clonial,
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Speaker 1: an unis, a replicata, a member of the veneer, and
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Speaker 1: a wraith hybrid, a part of some type of like
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Speaker 1: suicide squad that are sent on missions a la sliders,
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Speaker 1: and they're tracking down people that belong in or don't
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Speaker 1: belong in different timelines. Look, I think I would prefer
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Speaker 1: something like that be a team they come across in
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Speaker 1: one of those episodes where they come across an alternate
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Speaker 1: version of themselves. I don't know that I would want
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Speaker 1: to see an entire Stargate series or season even dedicated
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Speaker 1: to a team that's just ducking in and out of
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Speaker 1: alternate realities trying to track down people that do and
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Speaker 1: don't belong. It seems like a lot. I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: it's a bad idea, but maybe not for an entire season.
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Speaker 1: Rusty MacGyver, it's a tricky one, he says. I was
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Speaker 1: definitely excited for a new Stargate, and Martin and Joe's
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Speaker 1: interviews on GateWorld were making me hopeful. However, I was
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Speaker 1: tempering my expectations. I'm a big Quantum Leap fan and
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Speaker 1: was really disappointed with the new Giro run continuation. Couldn't
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Speaker 1: even finish Season 2. Missed the point of the show
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Speaker 1: and what aspects made the original good. If you put
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Speaker 1: Giro in a lineup with Wood, DeLuise, Makita, Brad Wright,
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Speaker 1: he's probably not your pick. But I was still pretty disappointed.
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Speaker 1: when it was cancelled. And I think, to be honest, Rusty,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly where we were at a point. Like, for
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Speaker 1: as much as we've shit-canned Robert C. Cooper for years
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Speaker 1: and years talking SG1, we've done that for a couple
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Speaker 1: of seasons worth of SGA, and less so of SGU,
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Speaker 1: but he still definitely gets a mention. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, Martin Guiro's name is attached to a brand
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Speaker 1: new Stargate. He's going to be the creative lead, the showrunner.
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Speaker 1: We jumped at that because we were getting something, but
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Speaker 1: not only that, we were getting new Stargate content. from
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Speaker 1: a former creative lead of the franchise. So you would
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Speaker 1: hope that, from what you found from your previous dealings
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Speaker 1: with Giro, that he wouldn't miss the point and the
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Speaker 1: aspects that made original Stargate good by putting this new
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Speaker 1: one together. And if anything, he kind of has a
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Speaker 1: get-out-of-jail-free card now that he would be dealing under Amazon,
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Speaker 1: that anything that went wrong, fans would probably just blame
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Speaker 1: the Amazon Prime directive. Oh, no. Oh, God, I've just...
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Speaker 1: I actually didn't mean that. I just heard what I said.
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Speaker 1: Maddie's laughing. Moving on. Okay, Rusty continues, I think I'd
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Speaker 1: prefer a continuation rather than a reboot, but they need
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Speaker 1: to somehow undo the power creep of 10 plus years
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Speaker 1: of show. I guess the power increase, right? Maybe something
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Speaker 1: catastrophic happens which makes hyperspace no longer work. Now the
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Speaker 1: galaxy must rely on Stargate only travel again. And then
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Speaker 1: maybe with no space travel, new adversaries can make themselves
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Speaker 1: known via gate travel. or they could bring Destiny into
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Speaker 1: it since it doesn't use hyperspace. I agree that we're
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Speaker 1: at a point now where, you know, you think about
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Speaker 1: the first movie, and it was unlocking the Stargate, traveling
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Speaker 1: to Abydos, and I thought that was the beginning and
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Speaker 1: the end. It was across the other side of the
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Speaker 1: known universe. And obviously, an hour later in storytelling, once
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Speaker 1: we got to the premiere episode of SG-1, it was
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Speaker 1: actually just going to a relatively nearby planet in the
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Speaker 1: Milky Way. And then come to where we are, at
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Speaker 1: least in my first watch through of SGU, we are
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Speaker 1: millions and millions of light years away from the Milky
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Speaker 1: Way galaxy with a ship that's just out there, you know,
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Speaker 1: chasing down already dropped off Stargates. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: where season two goes, but like we are so far away.
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Speaker 1: We've dealt with the Wraith. We've dealt with alternate realities
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Speaker 1: and time travel and all kinds of shit in between.
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Speaker 1: My first thought, honestly, though, and this is going to
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Speaker 1: be a that's one for my references, is the MCU.
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Speaker 1: You know, we got to Avengers and we're dealing with
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Speaker 1: real world New York, not so much grounded heroes when
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Speaker 1: you're talking about Thor, but when you're talking about something
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Speaker 1: like Captain America, even Iron Man, right? We're talking about
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Speaker 1: people with just enhanced abilities or technology dealing with aliens
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Speaker 1: invading via a portal from another point in the universe.
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Speaker 1: It's out there, right? And then the next movie was
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Speaker 1: dealing with Tony Stark's PTSD from the Avengers and saving
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Speaker 1: a kidnapped president of the United States from an international terrorist.
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Speaker 1: You have to make the more grounded stuff feel important
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Speaker 1: within the context of its own narrative. I'm not a
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Speaker 1: big fan of Iron Man 3, but I think it
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Speaker 1: still worked for that story. Now, following a little step
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Speaker 1: back up into the crazy with Thor 2, we get
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Speaker 1: back to Captain America, the Winter Soldier, and we're dealing
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Speaker 1: with a very grounded political thriller dealing with government secrets
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Speaker 1: and and Nazis and government takeovers and secret agencies and
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Speaker 1: double agents. And that is still one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: MCU movies that they have put out yet. So just
14:34
Speaker 1: because you're making something smaller doesn't make it less than.
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Speaker 1: You just have to make the smaller seem important. And
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Speaker 1: I think Stargate does that in hindsight, right? Just because
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Speaker 1: we've seen where Atlantis goes or even where SG-1 finished,
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Speaker 1: it didn't make those earlier seasons where they were first
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Speaker 1: discovering things seem redundant. They still have a lot of
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Speaker 1: thread about them. Apophis... coming toward Earth at the end
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Speaker 1: of Season 1 of SG-1 doesn't feel any smaller because
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Speaker 1: we see that we're dealing with the Ori in Seasons
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Speaker 1: 9 and 10, right? Like, that still works. Having said that,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get to a point where we
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Speaker 1: lose hyperspace just, like, because we need to rein that
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Speaker 1: in just so that we start using gate travel. I
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Speaker 1: know we talked about the idea that if they brought
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Speaker 1: it back, Stargate, and All of a sudden, it was
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Speaker 1: a two-way wormhole rather than just going from point A
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Speaker 1: to point B. And Brendan said, you know, you can't
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Speaker 1: mess with that. And he's absolutely right. You can't mess
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Speaker 1: with the established rules of that technology just for the
15:27
Speaker 1: sake of changing things to, like, make something a little
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Speaker 1: bit more complicated or make it easier. Here, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to lose hyperspace just so that we can use
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Speaker 1: gate travel. I think we could just start using more
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Speaker 1: gate travel. You think about how big the Milky Way is, right?
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Speaker 1: How big our galaxy is. We could go to sections
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Speaker 1: in a theoretical season 11 of SG-1 or a season
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Speaker 1: 1 of Stargate Command or Stargate Prime, as Brendan wants
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Speaker 1: to call it. We could go to another corner, if
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Speaker 1: I'm to imagine the Milky Way galaxy as a 3D object,
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Speaker 1: and discover a whole bunch of new races and planets
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Speaker 1: that have never even heard of the Gould. and a
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Speaker 1: whole new race of villains and threats. I like the idea,
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Speaker 1: I just don't think we need to lose hyperspace to
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Speaker 1: be able to do something like that. Gentle Knife, yep, writes,
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Speaker 1: I say bite the bullet and just do a reboot
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Speaker 1: in an AU, but only Matty's favourite episodes, and have
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Speaker 1: an AI write them. Then maybe he'll shut up about
16:19
Speaker 1: how good emancipational politics are, which they aren't. They actually suck,
16:23
Speaker 1: just like Sea Patrol does. Ha ha ha, suck at
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Speaker 1: high pitch, low pitch rules. So that might be a
16:27
Speaker 1: burner account for low pitch. And he's taken a little
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Speaker 1: stab at Sea Patrol and two of Matty's favorite season
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Speaker 1: one episodes. Obviously, most of that is a joke. We're
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Speaker 1: not going to get into the AI of it, so
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Speaker 1: we're going to move on. But thank you, Gentle Knife.
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Speaker 1: Brad Marl says, I'd prefer the Gyro series instead of
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Speaker 1: what we are going to get. You guys are right.
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Speaker 1: They're going to do a cheaper AI. Okay, we've gotten
16:48
Speaker 1: straight back into the AI. They're going to do a
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Speaker 1: cheaper AI created series with no name actors. And when
16:52
Speaker 1: fans condemn it, they will blame us for wanting it,
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Speaker 1: but not supporting it. I think that's a problem at
16:57
Speaker 1: the moment that I've been worried about is that we
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Speaker 1: know when we say hashtag save Stargate, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: the Gyro-led Stargate. We're not saying save Stargate as a
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Speaker 1: franchise because they haven't said they're not going to do
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Speaker 1: anything with it. And I still don't think with the
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Speaker 1: cancellation that means they're not going to do anything with it.
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Speaker 1: So if they turn around next week and say we're
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Speaker 1: giving you a brand new series, it's not going to
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Speaker 1: continue on the canon, mythology, anything, it's brand new. We're
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Speaker 1: going to fire up and be angry again because that's
17:22
Speaker 1: obviously not what we meant with hashtag save Stargate. I mean,
17:26
Speaker 1: I hope they don't do AI. You'd think if they
17:28
Speaker 1: actually went to AI and said, create us something that
17:30
Speaker 1: people would want, the internet would quickly inform the AI,
17:34
Speaker 1: other fans want a continuation, and we need to get
17:36
Speaker 1: back to the original decision of giving Giro his own
17:39
Speaker 1: series to lead. But anyway, I don't mind the idea
17:41
Speaker 1: of no-name actors, because aside from Richard Dean Anderson, which
17:45
Speaker 1: when I started watching Stargate SG-1, I was like 12
17:47
Speaker 1: years old, so I'd seen a handful of MacGyver episodes.
17:50
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't know any of these
17:53
Speaker 1: actors from anything else before I was watching them in Stargate.
17:55
Speaker 1: We get to SGU. Obviously, I know some Robert Carlyle
17:58
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other actors in there. But generally speaking,
18:01
Speaker 1: most of the cast between SG-1 and SGA, I'd never
18:05
Speaker 1: seen before. And they are those characters to me. So
18:09
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with bringing in no-name actors.
18:11
Speaker 1: I know we've toyed with the idea of bringing in
18:13
Speaker 1: like a Jensen Ackles or someone that we've been a
18:16
Speaker 1: fan of. within these sorts of shows, these long-running, long-episode-per-season shows,
18:21
Speaker 1: to come in and be a Jack O'Neill-type lead, someone
18:25
Speaker 1: who can handle serious with the humor and everything that
18:29
Speaker 1: comes with that tone in a show like this. But
18:31
Speaker 1: I don't think they need it. I do agree, though,
18:33
Speaker 1: with your final point there, Brad. If we get Stargate
18:36
Speaker 1: and then we don't like it, they will go, well,
18:38
Speaker 1: what else do you want from us? Especially if they
18:41
Speaker 1: give us the thing that we told them in the
18:42
Speaker 1: first place that we didn't want... You know, we're just
18:45
Speaker 1: sci-fi fans and it'll be our fault. Kim Stevens, I
18:48
Speaker 1: would have liked to see where Giro took the series
18:50
Speaker 1: as a continuation from the original three. I hope we
18:53
Speaker 1: don't get anything else now unless Amazon sell it to
18:55
Speaker 1: another platform and they bring on some OGs. That's where
18:58
Speaker 1: a lot of people are at at the moment. It's like, well,
19:00
Speaker 1: they almost don't want to see Amazon make it now
19:02
Speaker 1: because you've shown that you don't care enough about it
19:05
Speaker 1: to give us the thing that you initially told us
19:06
Speaker 1: you were going to give us. And now we're at
19:08
Speaker 1: a point where maybe you should just not give us anything.
19:11
Speaker 1: I'm of the mind that, yeah, sell it off. Keep
19:13
Speaker 1: your MGM, but sell off the parts if you want.
19:16
Speaker 1: And I'm a massive fan of Apple. Now, Dark Matter
19:19
Speaker 1: has just premiered season two. I've not seen a second
19:21
Speaker 1: of Dark Matter. I hear so many good things. But
19:23
Speaker 1: as far as sci-fi goes, I am such a big
19:26
Speaker 1: fan of Foundation. Pound for pound, I think Apple is
19:29
Speaker 1: the best streamer out there for its original content. The
19:32
Speaker 1: amount of original content they have is... is nowhere near
19:34
Speaker 1: as much as Netflix's original or Disney's original or Amazon's original,
19:39
Speaker 1: hardly enough. But I think pound for pound, what they
19:41
Speaker 1: pump out, the quality is right up there. And foundation
19:45
Speaker 1: for me, I've never read the original text, but my God,
19:48
Speaker 1: that pilot episode, I think is my favorite. favorite pilot
19:50
Speaker 1: episode of TV ever. One of my favorite television episodes ever.
19:55
Speaker 1: The world, the universe building that they do in one
19:58
Speaker 1: episode alone, the visual effects are outstanding. They are seamless.
20:05
Speaker 1: I love the start. of Foundation. I haven't seen the
20:08
Speaker 1: end of season three or anything, so I'm still behind,
20:11
Speaker 1: but what they did to establish that show with an
20:14
Speaker 1: existing IP, I know it had never been made into
20:16
Speaker 1: this sort of television show in the modern day, but
20:19
Speaker 1: they have shown that they can give care to different genres.
20:22
Speaker 1: And you know what, Prime, you don't want Stargate? Give
20:25
Speaker 1: it to Apple, who are gonna put a bunch of
20:27
Speaker 1: budget behind it, put a bit of care into it,
20:29
Speaker 1: and might actually bring on some creatives so they have
20:31
Speaker 1: to do less of the work themselves. Kimio says, I'd
20:34
Speaker 1: love to see Stargate happening in the now as that's
20:37
Speaker 1: what's made it different from the other shows. I agree.
20:40
Speaker 1: How it reflects and challenges our place and existence with
20:42
Speaker 1: the universe, allies, ourselves, especially with what's happened real world
20:47
Speaker 1: the last five to 10 years. I don't quite know
20:50
Speaker 1: what that means story-wise. I'll leave that up to the experts,
20:53
Speaker 1: but I'm happy seeing a new team or in the
20:55
Speaker 1: least a new character that reintroduces us to where the
20:58
Speaker 1: Stargate program is at and what it is now, wherever
21:02
Speaker 1: in the universe that may be. and I think there's
21:04
Speaker 1: plenty of room to make it accessible to all viewers,
21:06
Speaker 1: but I never considered AU Stories. I just would love
21:10
Speaker 1: to see heroes with humor and humanity back, but with
21:13
Speaker 1: a bit of celebration of geekiness thrown in. My money
21:16
Speaker 1: is still on Brad Wright having something up his sleeve
21:18
Speaker 1: at some point, but after this with Giro, I don't
21:21
Speaker 1: know how a future with OG creators would be taken on,
21:24
Speaker 1: but I have hope. My first question is, when you
21:27
Speaker 1: talk about what's happened over the last five or ten
21:28
Speaker 1: years in the real world, my first thought always goes to, politically.
21:32
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't mean politically, especially in the US climate
21:35
Speaker 1: where the SGC obviously being in America, whether we would
21:40
Speaker 1: delve in. I know a lot of people would have
21:41
Speaker 1: a problem with just leave politics out of it. It's like, yeah,
21:44
Speaker 1: because sci-fi has never done that. But I understand what
21:46
Speaker 1: they mean because We went through a bunch of different
21:49
Speaker 1: presidents and political figures in the Stargate franchise. We didn't
21:55
Speaker 1: ever really know which way they voted. Some of them
21:58
Speaker 1: we can guess. But, you know, that was never part
22:01
Speaker 1: of why. I've had a similar thought to something that
22:04
Speaker 1: you were suggesting there, which is like a new team
22:06
Speaker 1: or at least a new character that reintroduces to where
22:07
Speaker 1: the Stargate program is at, wherever it is now, like,
22:11
Speaker 1: I've got, like, the opening scene in my head of, like,
22:14
Speaker 1: basically the SGC is under white sheets. Everything in there
22:16
Speaker 1: has been covered up. The SGC has been shut down.
22:19
Speaker 1: I don't know why I never got that far through,
22:21
Speaker 1: but I just like the idea that we haven't seen
22:24
Speaker 1: fresh Stargate content in, sorry, Matty, for saying content, 15 years,
22:28
Speaker 1: and then we get a brand new show, and we're not,
22:30
Speaker 1: as an audience, having to catch up on 15 years
22:33
Speaker 1: of seemingly mundane and somewhat meaningless events. You know what
22:38
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, we spent the better part of 14
22:41
Speaker 1: years dealing with the Gould and the Ori and the
22:44
Speaker 1: Wraith and all these other bad guys and these explorations
22:46
Speaker 1: that gave us technology which were dangerous to us and
22:49
Speaker 1: the illnesses that we brought back all this sort of
22:51
Speaker 1: stuff happens and yet then we might go 15 years
22:53
Speaker 1: with nothing significantly bad happening along the way or even
22:57
Speaker 1: significantly good we haven't picked up amazing technology because I
23:01
Speaker 1: think if you jump too far from what Stargate was
23:03
Speaker 1: then you do start to lose and those original fans
23:06
Speaker 1: having to all of a sudden catch up on a
23:08
Speaker 1: franchise that they were very much living through with for
23:12
Speaker 1: 17 years, and then you're going to give us a
23:14
Speaker 1: 15-year break and tell us there's so much to catch
23:16
Speaker 1: up on. You can do it a little bit. I
23:18
Speaker 1: just don't think you can do it a lot. So
23:20
Speaker 1: part of me wants to see something where the SGC
23:22
Speaker 1: has been shut down for a couple of years. I
23:25
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know what brings it back.
23:27
Speaker 1: I like the early suggestion of maybe moving it to
23:29
Speaker 1: the moon. Let's have all the threats go to the
23:32
Speaker 1: moon first, you know? I mean, we don't want the
23:33
Speaker 1: moon blowing up. We don't want the consequences of that,
23:36
Speaker 1: that affecting, you know, the climate on the earth. But
23:39
Speaker 1: I like the change. And then Council Scribe Scribblings, as
23:42
Speaker 1: he's known, writes, or her, she, after what I've read
23:45
Speaker 1: and heard, I want a reboot without any movie or
23:47
Speaker 1: TV people, new people, new ideas, reasoning, pick some of
23:50
Speaker 1: the new Doctor Who, Star Trek and Star Wars over
23:53
Speaker 1: the last 20 years. So he's there saying, look at
23:55
Speaker 1: what has happened to sci-fi franchises that we've loved in
23:59
Speaker 1: modern TV today. Matty will attest that to Star Trek,
24:02
Speaker 1: there is very little Star Trek that he has liked
24:04
Speaker 1: in the last 20 years. I will say that maybe
24:08
Speaker 1: even longer. You're going to have to ask him. There's
24:10
Speaker 1: episodes here and there, a season of a show where
24:13
Speaker 1: he's been kind of partial to. I'm not a big
24:15
Speaker 1: Doctor Who guy. I don't know that I've ever seen
24:18
Speaker 1: an episode, but I know that obviously goes through many changes.
24:21
Speaker 1: And Star Wars. I'm a fan of a lot of
24:24
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, but I can definitely see where
24:26
Speaker 1: a lot of people... wouldn't be, and I do sympathize
24:29
Speaker 1: with you at the same time. So I still would
24:31
Speaker 1: hesitate to go, rather than go down the path that
24:35
Speaker 1: Star Wars and Star Trek and Doctor Who have went
24:37
Speaker 1: through by continuing on with new voices, just give us
24:40
Speaker 1: something brand new and fresh and leave the old stuff behind.
24:43
Speaker 1: I just know that myself would be looking for some
24:46
Speaker 1: type of, not closure on what we got before, but
24:49
Speaker 1: I would feel like there was a connective tissue that
24:51
Speaker 1: could have been, that should have been, that we didn't get.
24:54
Speaker 1: And I would just have so many questions of what if.
24:57
Speaker 1: We get a lot of great answers there from, obviously, rebooting,
25:00
Speaker 1: keep a continuation, give it to somebody else, give it
25:03
Speaker 1: to another creative lead. And that's maybe the beauty of
25:06
Speaker 1: what's happened in the cancellation, right? We got told we
25:08
Speaker 1: were getting a Gyro-led fourth series that would be a
25:12
Speaker 1: continuation on of the mythology and the canon already established,
25:15
Speaker 1: and we were just waiting to see what that would be.
25:17
Speaker 1: Now that we've found out that we're not getting that,
25:20
Speaker 1: we all have different ideas of what could be next
25:22
Speaker 1: and what should be next. If any of that should
25:24
Speaker 1: teach any of us anything, it's to keep fighting the fight.
25:27
Speaker 1: Keep talking about hashtag safe Stargate. Keep supporting campaigns. Keep
25:30
Speaker 1: the noise going. It may not get us anywhere, but
25:33
Speaker 1: it's going to do better than saying absolutely nothing. I'm
25:36
Speaker 1: going to get back to saying more of nothing because
25:37
Speaker 1: I'm wrapping this up. We will be back next episode
25:40
Speaker 1: to talk about episode one of season two of Stargate Universe. Thankfully,
25:45
Speaker 1: enough of me. Back with Maddie and Brendan, the actual
25:48
Speaker 1: voices of Get Into Geek. We'll see you then. Okay, bye.
25:50
Speaker 1: Get Into Geek. Get Into Geek. Get into gate, Stargate.
25:59
Speaker 1: And send me some aspirin.