Latest / Reality with The King / ARI-ONNE THE WRONG FOOT | LAMH Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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- 0:36Speaker 2: All right.
- 0:37Speaker 1: So now is the time to get into love and
- 0:39Speaker 1: marriage Huntsville. I want to apologize to the raindrops and,
- 0:45Speaker 1: you know, the entire Monday Night Live-ers from last week.
- 0:50Speaker 1: We had a very... Baby, they were cussing me out.
- 0:53Speaker 1: They were so mad that we did not spend enough
- 0:56Speaker 1: real estate on Love and Marriage Huntsville. As a moderator,
- 0:59Speaker 1: I take full responsibility. In our defense, though, we had
- 1:03Speaker 1: two shows the night before, and it was past 9.30,
- 1:07Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure that my talent got
- 1:09Speaker 1: home safely. Claudia had a flight, and I just wanted
- 1:12Speaker 1: to make sure they were good. So my apologies. So
- 1:15Speaker 1: that's why right now we are getting into Love and
- 1:18Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsville. The scene that I want to start with
- 1:21Speaker 1: first is, is a scene that occurred between... Who's the
- 1:29Speaker 1: first one we have, Chris, up to bat? Tisha and Marcel,
- 1:32Speaker 1: thank you.
- 1:33Speaker 2: It's a real show.
- 1:35Speaker 1: So Tisha and Marcel had a conversation about meeting Arianne,
- 1:43Speaker 1: and they were talking about their first impressions of her, right?
- 1:48Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Tisha said, I don't know how to refer to her.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Is she the baby mama? The girlfriend? What do we
- 1:57Speaker 1: call her? They also commented on the fact that they
- 2:01Speaker 1: felt Arianne was trying to diss them by talking about,
- 2:06Speaker 1: you know, the real estate they were doing. And Marcel
- 2:09Speaker 1: made a comment about finally she's out of the sidelines.
- 2:14Speaker 1: She's no longer part of Martel's drafts. She, you know,
- 2:18Speaker 1: is part of the starting lineup now. So they made
- 2:21Speaker 1: all this commentary. Tisha also mentioned that she doesn't know
- 2:25Speaker 1: where to go from here because Arianne destroyed a family.
- 2:30Speaker 1: And Marcel encouraged Tisha. It takes more than just her
- 2:35Speaker 1: to destroy marriage and to give her a chance. Starting
- 2:38Speaker 1: with you, Claudia, what are your thoughts on this particular conversation?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Should Tisha give Ariana a chance, courtesy of the fact
- 2:47Speaker 1: that her husband is telling her to do so?
- 2:52Speaker 3: No.
- 2:53Speaker 4: She don't listen to anything else he says.
- 2:56Speaker 5: No.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Why y'all listen to that?
- 2:59Speaker 5: No.
- 3:00Speaker 3: No.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Um, I'm sorry. Uh, I don't care that you guys
- 3:04Speaker 4: are together now. Uh, I'm, I don't, homewreckers cannot, I'm not,
- 3:07Speaker 4: I'm going to be very cold to warm up to them.
- 3:10Speaker 4: It's going to be a long time coming. It's not
- 3:12Speaker 4: going to happen overnight. I'm not just going to be like, Oh,
- 3:15Speaker 4: you went from the mistress to now you're the main, uh,
- 3:18Speaker 4: let's be friends. Let's do lunch. I would be like
- 3:20Speaker 4: side eyeing because especially the fact that she'd been around
- 3:23Speaker 4: the men and none of the women yet, I already
- 3:25Speaker 4: would feel like you, you, I don't know. I would
- 3:29Speaker 4: be slow to trust. And, you know, and I would
- 3:32Speaker 4: definitely be slow to trust and to open up to
- 3:34Speaker 4: her because I was having a conversation with my friend,
- 3:37Speaker 4: Tony today, my home girl about women that do this.
- 3:40Speaker 4: And it is not all on her. So she cannot
- 3:42Speaker 4: just take all the blame. It is on both of them.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Right.
- 3:44Speaker 4: But I just don't want those type of women around me.
- 3:46Speaker 4: I really don't. Have I had a homewrecker friend or
- 3:49Speaker 4: two in my life? Yes, I have. And in our
- 3:51Speaker 4: private conversations, I won't embarrass them in public. I really don't.
- 3:54Speaker 4: I have my conversation with them about how they move. And,
- 3:57Speaker 4: you know, I'm a little judgy with them. I, you're
- 4:02Speaker 4: going to get the karma back. And Arianne, if you
- 4:05Speaker 4: think you are not going to get that karma back
- 4:07Speaker 4: in some form or fashion, you are delusional because men
- 4:11Speaker 4: don't just cheat on one person. They cheat on everybody.
- 4:14Speaker 4: It's not like a, oh my God, I was so
- 4:16Speaker 4: weak because you were just so gorgeous. And I'm such
- 4:18Speaker 4: a fan of this. I just could not help myself.
- 4:22Speaker 4: I just could not help myself. And I just had
- 4:25Speaker 4: to be with you.
- 4:26Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
- 4:27Speaker 3: Accuracy. Oh my God.
- 4:29Speaker 4: I just had to be with you and there's something
- 4:31Speaker 4: about you. Just do everything out the window. I just, oh,
- 4:34Speaker 4: I never usually do this, but for you, I'm just
- 4:37Speaker 4: changing it up. Is that cute?
- 4:40Speaker 5: Okay.
- 4:40Speaker 4: So no, I just think that, I think that Tisha
- 4:47Speaker 4: is absolutely right to be wary of a girl like that.
- 4:50Speaker 4: And you, you know, welcome her back in first. So
- 4:52Speaker 4: it'd be weird, especially how y'all all came to know
- 4:55Speaker 4: each other. That's weird. I'm going to have her at
- 4:58Speaker 4: arm's length and she's going to have to prove herself
- 5:00Speaker 4: to me. Not that I'm, not that Tisha is like,
- 5:04Speaker 4: you know, she's not really there for Tisha, but I
- 5:06Speaker 4: don't have to be there for you in the friend circle.
- 5:09Speaker 4: I can keep you at arm's length because I would
- 5:11Speaker 4: not trust you. Because she's just way too proud of
- 5:13Speaker 4: being a, it ain't like, man, she's not humble at all.
- 5:16Speaker 4: It's not like, man, you know, I got caught up
- 5:19Speaker 4: and I messed up. She's a little too, I'm here now.
- 5:24Speaker 4: She's so, so humble. so thirsty to be in the
- 5:28Speaker 4: driver's seat. And it's so ridiculous. And she's such a
- 5:32Speaker 4: pick me. And I don't like pick me's. I don't
- 5:35Speaker 4: like them in politics. I don't like them in sports.
- 5:38Speaker 4: I don't like them in reality shows. You make it
- 5:41Speaker 4: harder for the women out here that are not doing
- 5:43Speaker 4: that bullshit. You're the kind of woman that when a
- 5:45Speaker 4: man comes around, you say what the man wants to hear.
- 5:47Speaker 4: So you can seem like you're more agreeable than the
- 5:49Speaker 4: other girls that actually have a spine. That's what I think.
- 5:52Speaker 4: And you're proud of You're proud with the, he's giving
- 5:57Speaker 4: you the minimum. He could even say you're his best
- 6:01Speaker 4: friend in front of his people. You are the peasant.
- 6:04Speaker 4: He called you, his words, not mine. He called you
- 6:06Speaker 4: a peasant. And you mad at other people for talking
- 6:09Speaker 4: shit about you. I be mad at the man that
- 6:12Speaker 4: I give my coochie to. Call me a peasant. You
- 6:14Speaker 4: can't call me a peasant and fuck. No, you cannot.
- 6:17Speaker 4: But then again, I'm not her. Oh, I'm not her.
- 6:22Speaker 4: How'd it go?
- 6:23Speaker 3: Oh, no.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Can you see? Okay.
- 6:27Speaker 5: There we go.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:28Speaker 5: Okay.
- 6:28Speaker 4: I don't know how she does it.
- 6:30Speaker 5: It's a little too neat, Claudia. It's shaking up a
- 6:32Speaker 5: little bit. It's a little too neat.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:33Speaker 3: There we go.
- 6:34Speaker 5: Don't you go that way? Yep. All the ways. It
- 6:37Speaker 5: goes all the ways.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Here we go.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Do I look like her now?
- 6:39Speaker 5: Yep.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Well, I got to get the face of those questions.
- 6:42Speaker 4: My man, my man, my man.
- 6:43Speaker 5: My man, my man, my man.
- 6:44Speaker 4: I'm so happy he chose me finally after 12 years.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Huh?
- 6:51Speaker 3: Did I say something bad?
- 6:59Speaker 1: No.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Dustin Ross.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Yeah. So the question was, right, how do I feel
- 7:07Speaker 3: about the scene with Marcel and Letitia discussing Arianne, right?
- 7:11Speaker 3: That's your question. Right, Carlos?
- 7:13Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Thank you. Sorry, I went off track here.
- 7:14Speaker 3: No, no, no. I just want to make sure I'm
- 7:16Speaker 3: hitting the prompt, right?
- 7:17Speaker 4: I have ADHD, too. Real bad.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Thank you, Dustin. Because I agree.
- 7:21Speaker 3: I felt everything Claudia said. I just want to make
- 7:23Speaker 3: sure I'm hitting the prompt. So I thought it was bizarre.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I thought it was bizarre that they were, that Marceau
- 7:31Speaker 3: and Letitia took such a casual and cavalier approach to
- 7:35Speaker 3: what would seemingly be such a serious matter and a
- 7:38Speaker 3: serious thorn in the ass of their marriage. You know
- 7:40Speaker 3: what I'm saying? I really... expected them to sit down
- 7:44Speaker 3: and say, what the fuck do these people think we're
- 7:48Speaker 3: going to have to say to Ariane after she lied
- 7:50Speaker 3: and set up with that miscellaneous woman in that YouTube
- 7:53Speaker 3: video and made all these accusations and has said everything
- 7:57Speaker 3: that there is to say about a person, about both
- 8:00Speaker 3: of us sitting here. I'm not about to sit up
- 8:03Speaker 3: and share space with her unless she comes in apologetic
- 8:06Speaker 3: and ready to address and debunk The things that she
- 8:10Speaker 3: said about our family, about me, about you, all of that.
- 8:13Speaker 3: I thought it was odd that Marceau and Letitia sat
- 8:16Speaker 3: down and Marceau, he would even encourage Letitia getting to
- 8:19Speaker 3: know Arianne. Get to know her for what? We got
- 8:22Speaker 3: to know her during these past, their son is five
- 8:25Speaker 3: years old now, five or six. So they've gotten to
- 8:28Speaker 3: know her over the past five or six years for sure.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Whether they knew her prior to that is lore at
- 8:35Speaker 3: this point, right? But they've known her ass for the
- 8:38Speaker 3: past five or six years. And I don't think they
- 8:41Speaker 3: like what they've seen. I don't think they enjoyed seeing
- 8:44Speaker 3: what she said about them in that YouTube video with
- 8:47Speaker 3: that lady. In addition to the countless posts on Instagram,
- 8:50Speaker 3: posts anywhere where she has an active account, YouTube videos,
- 8:54Speaker 3: FaceDamn book, all that stuff where she's been very vocal
- 8:58Speaker 3: and active sharing her side of the story in ways
- 9:01Speaker 3: that I think would grossly offend Letitia and Marcel and
- 9:06Speaker 3: also impact the way that they engage with her. So
- 9:10Speaker 3: I was surprised by their casual approach to that.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Blue to Luzma, the Marcel-Tisha conversation. Were you, you know,
- 9:22Speaker 1: there were people in the comments, like Dustin said too,
- 9:25Speaker 1: that were, Claudia said she didn't listen anyway, but there
- 9:28Speaker 1: were some people in the comments that were surprised that
- 9:32Speaker 1: Marcel encouraged Tisha, to give Ariana a chance.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Where do you think that stemmed from?
- 9:40Speaker 5: Because, how do I say this? Sometimes people just want
- 9:44Speaker 5: things to be glossed over to make their life easier
- 9:46Speaker 5: because holding people accountable is inconvenient, right? And one of
- 9:50Speaker 5: the things that Tisha said is, I'm a wife. And
- 9:52Speaker 5: a lot of us do not want to sound unnecessarily judgmental.
- 9:58Speaker 5: And there's a fine line between judgment and discernment. right
- 10:01Speaker 5: I had once had a friend like Claudia mentioned who
- 10:03Speaker 5: was a home worker a proud one and was very
- 10:06Speaker 5: very proud about being a third wheel in other people's
- 10:09Speaker 5: relationships not consensually and I told myself I don't want
- 10:12Speaker 5: to be judgmental just because we move differently fast forward
- 10:15Speaker 5: two years later guess who's hitting on the person I
- 10:16Speaker 5: just broke up with And I'm like, oh, that wasn't
- 10:20Speaker 5: me judging you. That was discernment knocking on the door
- 10:23Speaker 5: and I didn't answer the door, right? So sometimes it's
- 10:25Speaker 5: not judgment, it's discernment. And for those who want to
- 10:27Speaker 5: know the difference, discernment doesn't mean I say you're a
- 10:30Speaker 5: bad person for doing X, Y, and Z. Discernment means
- 10:33Speaker 5: I say, are we compatible or not? If I'm someone
- 10:35Speaker 5: who's a wife and I'm in a loving relationship and
- 10:38Speaker 5: you are a proud and smug homewrecker, that means we
- 10:43Speaker 5: are not compatible because the very thing that I consider
- 10:46Speaker 5: sacred is is something you take pride in desecrating. That's
- 10:49Speaker 5: not judgment. That's just keeping yourself safe. And so any
- 10:52Speaker 5: wife around a woman like her, and I will say this,
- 10:54Speaker 5: my mother was a mistress. My mother was not smug.
- 10:58Speaker 5: She was not proud of it. She even said, she
- 11:00Speaker 5: was like, when I found out your daddy was married
- 11:02Speaker 5: to that lady, I left him alone. So this is
- 11:05Speaker 5: not about judging her actions. It's about judging how willfully
- 11:08Speaker 5: ignorant she's being when people try to hold her to
- 11:10Speaker 5: the most basic levels of accountability. She keeps using words incorrectly.
- 11:15Speaker 5: Accountability doesn't mean that you cuss people out for bringing
- 11:18Speaker 5: consequences to your doorstep after you showed your ass. That's
- 11:21Speaker 5: not accountability. Accountability also doesn't mean that you go on
- 11:25Speaker 5: the attack when people ask valid questions. People are allowed
- 11:28Speaker 5: to speak about how they feel about you destroying the
- 11:31Speaker 5: light or helping, because it takes two. You being a
- 11:34Speaker 5: co-conspirator and helping to destroy the marriage of someone that
- 11:37Speaker 5: they care about in a friend group that's based on
- 11:40Speaker 5: couples bonding as married couples, they're allowed to do that.
- 11:45Speaker 5: I think it's absolutely asinine that she's allowed to sleep
- 11:47Speaker 5: with a married man, but nobody's allowed to talk about it. Okay.
- 11:50Speaker 5: That is so self-indulgent and unintelligent. And I will say this,
- 11:54Speaker 5: when they had the scene around how fine she was,
- 11:56Speaker 5: and I know I'm jumping ahead, I think her and
- 11:59Speaker 5: Martel are both very attractive. I understand because they're both
- 12:02Speaker 5: so attractive why lust might have been a factor, but
- 12:06Speaker 5: there's a certain shallowness to their connection that makes me
- 12:11Speaker 5: feel like, not if, but when this ends and expires
- 12:15Speaker 5: and no longer serves the two of them, some of
- 12:18Speaker 5: that vitriol that they put towards other people, they're going
- 12:20Speaker 5: to aim at each other. And so I think they
- 12:21Speaker 5: need to be really, really careful because what they're doing
- 12:24Speaker 5: is they're burning bridges of folks that they're going to
- 12:26Speaker 5: need when this blows over. Whenever this culminates, however it's
- 12:29Speaker 5: going to culminate, Martel's going to have to be careful
- 12:32Speaker 5: because all that smugness she has for the girl, ladies,
- 12:34Speaker 5: it's going to be coming to his doorstep soon. So
- 12:37Speaker 5: I'm going to watch this play out, Carlos, but I
- 12:39Speaker 5: will say that young lady is insufferable, not because of
- 12:43Speaker 5: what she did, but because of how she responded. To
- 12:45Speaker 5: be held properly accountable. I think it's gross and disgusting.
- 12:47Speaker 1: And I want to actually have us go there now.
- 12:53Speaker 2: So here's the deal. And I do want, first of all, Blue,
- 12:55Speaker 2: thank you for your honesty.
- 12:57Speaker 1: You mentioned it before about your mother, but I appreciate
- 13:00Speaker 1: you bringing it up in the context of the scene.
- 13:03Speaker 2: I do want to get into this, though. Okay.
- 13:06Speaker 1: There was a scene between Miss Nell and Ariane. Arianne,
- 13:11Speaker 1: for the first time, explained to us, the audience, what
- 13:16Speaker 1: happened between her and Martel the moment they met.
- 13:20Speaker 2: We've always heard.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Martel's side of the story because, obviously, he was the
- 13:24Speaker 1: only person... Allegedly, he was the only person there when
- 13:28Speaker 1: they met. I forgot about this show and the history
- 13:30Speaker 1: of it.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Hey, Dustin.
- 13:32Speaker 2: So, anywho.
- 13:35Speaker 1: In this scene, Arianne, and I want to start with
- 13:39Speaker 1: you first, Blue, because if you don't mind, and we're friends,
- 13:43Speaker 1: so tell me if I'm going too far with this.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I want to start with you only because about your mother.
- 13:50Speaker 1: And I really appreciate your candor about that and mentioning,
- 13:55Speaker 1: but your.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Mother wasn't smug with it.
- 13:57Speaker 1: So with that being said, in this scene, Arianne talks
- 14:00Speaker 1: about meeting Martel.
- 14:02Speaker 2: She said... I was attracted to him. I thought he
- 14:05Speaker 2: was fine. I was young.
- 14:10Speaker 5: Ms.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Nell said, did you know he was married? And she goes,
- 14:14Speaker 1: I found out later, but I didn't stop. She also
- 14:19Speaker 1: mentioned how young she was at the time. She was
- 14:21Speaker 1: in her early 20s.
- 14:23Speaker 2: She also mentioned that if she knew now.
- 14:30Speaker 1: What all of this would have been then, right? When
- 14:32Speaker 1: they first met, she wouldn't have done it. And she admits,
- 14:36Speaker 1: did I say that wrong, Dustin? If she knew then, okay,
- 14:39Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Thank you, Dustin. If she knew then what
- 14:43Speaker 1: she knows now, she wouldn't have continued the relationship.
- 14:50Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
- 14:52Speaker 1: I want to start with Blue only because I do
- 14:54Speaker 1: want to bring in your mother because Blue has, and again,
- 14:57Speaker 1: Blue said this, so I'm not telling her business, Raindrops,
- 15:00Speaker 1: just in case you're new to the platform. Blue has
- 15:04Speaker 1: mentioned that she is the product of an affair.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Yes. Okay.
- 15:12Speaker 1: When you heard for the first time Ariane's POV, and
- 15:16Speaker 1: I just want to stick to this for a second
- 15:17Speaker 1: because there's.
- 15:18Speaker 2: So much I want to talk about.
- 15:19Speaker 1: When you heard how young she was, when you heard
- 15:23Speaker 1: her admit it was a mistake, did you find any
- 15:30Speaker 1: grace for her in that particular moment?
- 15:34Speaker 5: I would have if, the answer is no.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Okay.
- 15:37Speaker 5: The answer is a very loud no, because it felt
- 15:40Speaker 5: like much in the same way people tend to weaponize
- 15:43Speaker 5: therapy speak. And the very thing that's meant to help
- 15:45Speaker 5: them heal is just used as a leverage to help
- 15:48Speaker 5: them shirk accountability. It felt incredibly manipulative. And I will
- 15:53Speaker 5: say this, my mother, it was in the same scenario,
- 15:55Speaker 5: but my mother was a lot more honest. When she
- 15:57Speaker 5: found out that my father had a wife, She was dumbstruck.
- 16:00Speaker 5: She was devastated. And she said, I don't want to
- 16:03Speaker 5: be in this scenario. I'm going to keep the baby
- 16:05Speaker 5: because obviously, hey, I'm here. But I don't want to
- 16:07Speaker 5: do this to another woman. And she recused herself and
- 16:11Speaker 5: showed respect and deference to the wife saying, I would
- 16:13Speaker 5: never want to be a part of this intentionally. Now
- 16:16Speaker 5: that I know that you exist, I'm going to keep
- 16:18Speaker 5: it moving. But I have to co-parent with this man.
- 16:21Speaker 5: And Morty, cause I'm not ashamed. I'm in my mom's
- 16:23Speaker 5: house right now. He ended up knocking up her home girl.
- 16:26Speaker 5: He kept doing it with other women.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:28Speaker 5: I just found out last Thanksgiving, I got a little
- 16:31Speaker 5: sister who's only six months younger than me.
- 16:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:34Speaker 5: And so she understood that what he was doing with
- 16:36Speaker 5: her was showing her his character. She never once took
- 16:39Speaker 5: it out of my father's wife, right? She never once
- 16:43Speaker 5: felt like she was entitled to have grace to the
- 16:45Speaker 5: point where she wasn't being held accountable. She was like,
- 16:47Speaker 5: I made my bed. I have to lie in it.
- 16:49Speaker 5: I will also say this. It is dangerous. And I'm
- 16:52Speaker 5: going to use this word intentionally. And Martel, oh, I
- 16:54Speaker 5: can't believe y'all have me defending his fine ass. Martel
- 16:57Speaker 5: even bucked at this. She keeps on planting seeds about
- 17:01Speaker 5: the young thing. In a way that feels like she's
- 17:04Speaker 5: already starting the storyline of him being predatory. And when
- 17:09Speaker 5: he had that strong reaction like, hold on, why do
- 17:11Speaker 5: people mention that you're young? I thought you were fine.
- 17:14Speaker 5: I thought I was fine. Are there predatory men?
- 17:16Speaker 6: Sure.
- 17:17Speaker 5: And though you can still be a young girl who
- 17:19Speaker 5: is up to some stuff. And I have a sneaking feeling.
- 17:24Speaker 5: That she's already preparing herself where if anything happens between
- 17:28Speaker 5: her and him, the audience, women in particular, are already
- 17:31Speaker 5: feeling bad for her. I was young. I was young.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Saying it one time in a story, sure. But saying
- 17:36Speaker 5: my man, my man, my man, and then constantly putting
- 17:39Speaker 5: it into our heads. I was young. I was young.
- 17:40Speaker 5: I was young. That's not you taking accountability. That's you
- 17:43Speaker 5: already preparing a backdoor excuse for if he does you dirty.
- 17:46Speaker 5: or the show does you dirty, you can play victim.
- 17:49Speaker 5: And there's something so manipulative in how she's weaponizing her youth.
- 17:53Speaker 5: There's a movie called Hard Candy, for those who haven't
- 17:54Speaker 5: seen it. It's about a man who's a predator. He
- 17:57Speaker 5: goes to meet a young girl. Turns out the young
- 17:58Speaker 5: girl's a sociopath. So just be clear. You can be
- 18:02Speaker 5: a victim and a manipulator simultaneously. I have a sneaking
- 18:06Speaker 5: feeling that I hope I'm proven wrong that she can
- 18:08Speaker 5: be both. Was she young?
- 18:11Speaker 3: Sure.
- 18:12Speaker 5: And she had already had a child, word on the street,
- 18:14Speaker 5: this is a rumor, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, with somebody else
- 18:17Speaker 5: who was in a relationship. So my thing is, if
- 18:19Speaker 5: you have two children as a side piece, at what
- 18:23Speaker 5: point are we allowed to say, baby, you got some
- 18:25Speaker 5: work to do too, it can't just be Martel. At
- 18:28Speaker 5: what point are we allowed to say that? And so
- 18:30Speaker 5: I get nervous when people who are victimized are watching
- 18:34Speaker 5: their narrative play out in the mouth of someone who's
- 18:36Speaker 5: using it as a scheme. I think this young lady
- 18:39Speaker 5: is scheming. I think she is clever. I think she's
- 18:41Speaker 5: going to be playing the world's smallest violin, talking about
- 18:43Speaker 5: I'm young, I'm young, I'm young, while also saying my man,
- 18:45Speaker 5: my man, my man. Everybody needs to wash themselves around
- 18:48Speaker 5: a woman like that. She makes me very nervous.
- 18:52Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
- 18:59Speaker 3: Dustin, I've been shocked. I've been shocked and surprised several
- 19:03Speaker 3: times during this episode. But Ariane finally got the chance
- 19:07Speaker 3: to introduce herself to this audience that has been discussing
- 19:11Speaker 3: her in her absence, which even the notion of her
- 19:14Speaker 3: making that statement that her situation with Martel had been
- 19:17Speaker 3: discussed in her absence as if she was owed an
- 19:21Speaker 3: opportunity to talk about being, you know, a willing participant
- 19:24Speaker 3: in the extramarital affair. That was a little bit far-fetched
- 19:27Speaker 3: for me in theory itself. But Arianne didn't show any
- 19:31Speaker 3: signs of remorse in this episode. In fact, it felt
- 19:35Speaker 3: insulting watching her sit in the confessional chair and feign
- 19:39Speaker 3: the crying moment. That was like, okay, what you doing, man?
- 19:43Speaker 3: You ain't need, like, come on, dog. Like, I couldn't
- 19:46Speaker 3: even do nothing but laugh when she sat there and
- 19:49Speaker 3: positioned her bodyguard. She did like a, what, a little
- 19:52Speaker 3: slight rotate to the right. You know what I'm saying?
- 19:55Speaker 3: Stuck her shoulders up, clasped her hands in front of
- 19:58Speaker 3: her and put them in her lap. And then what
- 20:01Speaker 3: did she do? She said, and was dry. Nothing came out.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Nothing came out. She don't have no remorse. I was
- 20:11Speaker 3: surprised that after years and years of being discussed and
- 20:16Speaker 3: finally getting the opportunity to have your say, I was
- 20:19Speaker 3: surprised that her and Martel both when asked, why were
- 20:23Speaker 3: you attracted to me or what made you want to
- 20:25Speaker 3: pursue this relationship with me? They both answered, you was fine.
- 20:30Speaker 3: That was wild to me. And it made them both
- 20:32Speaker 3: appear really vapid and like this was a very superficial,
- 20:36Speaker 3: empty ass relationship. where they're basically just walking around the house,
- 20:40Speaker 3: bumping into the walls and just functioning, performing the necessary
- 20:44Speaker 3: tasks to stay alive each day, like eating and shitting
- 20:48Speaker 3: and making sure that the children have their basic needs
- 20:52Speaker 3: met in whatever ways they need to. The idea as
- 20:57Speaker 3: if she would say like, if had I known what
- 21:02Speaker 3: I know now, then you did. You did. You knew
- 21:07Speaker 3: that he was married then. What is the new, I
- 21:09Speaker 3: would have liked to see that question being, you know,
- 21:13Speaker 3: taking a deeper dive into that question. I would have
- 21:15Speaker 3: liked to take a deeper dive into that question because
- 21:18Speaker 3: what is the information that she was lacking then but
- 21:22Speaker 3: has and possesses now that would have influenced her behavior
- 21:26Speaker 3: to be different? I don't think there is any. And again,
- 21:31Speaker 3: finally being given the opportunity to have something to say Why?
- 21:36Speaker 3: If you were going to come on here and evade accountability,
- 21:40Speaker 3: defend insults that you feel like you missed an opportunity
- 21:44Speaker 3: to defend or return, you could have just faded into
- 21:47Speaker 3: the background and lived a quiet life as a successful nurse,
- 21:50Speaker 3: raising your children in the healthiest environments you can and
- 21:54Speaker 3: kept it moving. If you're going to come over here
- 21:57Speaker 3: and play and be a part of this show, have
- 21:59Speaker 3: something substantive to say that may change or challenge some
- 22:04Speaker 3: of the very rooted feelings and opinions we have based
- 22:08Speaker 3: on Arianne's behavior. I think her and Martel both missed
- 22:11Speaker 3: the mark this entire episode. And it almost seems like
- 22:15Speaker 3: Arianne is taking the position of now that I can talk,
- 22:19Speaker 3: I'm going to be adversarial to Martel and try to
- 22:21Speaker 3: put all of the accountability into his lap because he was,
- 22:25Speaker 3: and in some regards, rightfully so. But I don't think
- 22:28Speaker 3: Arianne is astute enough to even understand that she's right
- 22:32Speaker 3: about that. I think her goal and intention in doing
- 22:35Speaker 3: that It's just moving the blame into Martel's lap and
- 22:39Speaker 3: out of hers, because this is the first time in
- 22:42Speaker 3: over a decade when she's been able to say to
- 22:45Speaker 3: the same audience that has rightfully and understandably so judged her.
- 22:50Speaker 3: This is the first time she's able to say, well, no, y'all,
- 22:52Speaker 3: it was actually. And she doesn't add anything, you know,
- 22:57Speaker 3: that that is influential or like I said, substantive. It's
- 23:01Speaker 3: just a bunch of empty ass rhetoric and mumbo jumbo,
- 23:05Speaker 3: quite literally, that amounts to nothing that is going to
- 23:08Speaker 3: sway the way that anybody that is aware of her
- 23:11Speaker 3: history feels about her. And it's sad. Me personally, I
- 23:14Speaker 3: don't have to like you to wish you well and
- 23:16Speaker 3: to wish you success, right? And her being a part
- 23:19Speaker 3: of this cast was an opportunity for her to do
- 23:22Speaker 3: something well and do it right from the beginning. Her
- 23:26Speaker 3: appearing on this season, which shout out to Love and
- 23:29Speaker 3: Marriage Huntsville, the show that keeps on giving and is
- 23:31Speaker 3: going to continue to give, right? She had an opportunity
- 23:35Speaker 3: to enter that stage and really impact the way that
- 23:39Speaker 3: her reputation has been stained of her own accord, right?
- 23:44Speaker 3: And she has chosen thus far in episodes one and
- 23:47Speaker 3: two not to do that. I'm surprised at that poor
- 23:51Speaker 3: choice now that she's finally been given this opportunity.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Her and Martel just seem so, it's dumb and dumber.
- 24:01Speaker 4: But all this time y'all had to craft a response
- 24:05Speaker 4: and prepare for your big coming out party where we
- 24:08Speaker 4: reveal the woman that got your nose open. It should
- 24:12Speaker 4: have been something so much deeper where there could be
- 24:14Speaker 4: some people that say, you know what? I don't understand
- 24:17Speaker 4: how that would happen. Maybe you went left in your
- 24:20Speaker 4: marriage and you felt neglected. Give us something. You can't
- 24:25Speaker 4: be as primitive and as barbaric And as low vibrational
- 24:31Speaker 4: as you was fine, you was fine. So you just
- 24:33Speaker 4: blow up everything you had over here. And Arian, this
- 24:36Speaker 4: is your second time, allegedly, according to the streets of
- 24:38Speaker 4: like going for it based on fine. That is such
- 24:41Speaker 4: a like, imagine throwing everything away because someone's fine. Then
- 24:44Speaker 4: you're going to see fine a lot in your life. Well,
- 24:46Speaker 4: if you hang with me, you will a lot. So
- 24:49Speaker 4: you just like blow up the spot because of fine.
- 24:51Speaker 4: And I think you did just, they did themselves no
- 24:54Speaker 4: favors by having such a shallow reason for all this.
- 24:58Speaker 4: It is. Couldn't they have said something like, when I
- 25:01Speaker 4: met her, I felt like we were kindred spirits.
- 25:03Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 25:04Speaker 4: It's just something about her. I just could not stop
- 25:05Speaker 4: thinking about this. Fuck, lie to us. Say something. Because
- 25:08Speaker 4: now you made it an uphill battle for you on
- 25:11Speaker 4: this season, even more than you already was. And they
- 25:13Speaker 4: just both seem so stupid. So dumb. But hey, at
- 25:19Speaker 4: least they're fine.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Claudia, I can't.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Never mind, because I ain't finna talk about nobody here.
- 25:28Speaker 3: I'm not finna talk about nobody here.
- 25:29Speaker 5: I think she's really, really, really pretty. And notice how
- 25:31Speaker 5: we're making fun of a hairstyle, not her beauty.
- 25:34Speaker 4: I'm making fun of a hairstyle, yes.
- 25:36Speaker 5: It's a hairstyle, not her beauty.
- 25:37Speaker 3: It do be looking like Bruce Lee did her ponytail.
- 25:39Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
- 25:47Speaker 5: Can I say one thing too? Can we all just
- 25:49Speaker 5: realize too, I think what's happening with the older women
- 25:51Speaker 5: on the cast is they recognize something my mother told
- 25:54Speaker 5: me a long time ago. When somebody has nothing to lose,
- 25:57Speaker 5: they have everything to gain. Because she has nothing to lose,
- 26:01Speaker 5: she doesn't mind to tussle with everybody because all she
- 26:04Speaker 5: can do is gain relevance. While they have plenty to lose,
- 26:07Speaker 5: like their peace of mind. So I know why the
- 26:09Speaker 5: ladies are being a little skittish with her because they
- 26:11Speaker 5: recognize she wants a moment with them. I would be
- 26:13Speaker 5: skittish with her too.
- 26:15Speaker 4: And the fellas, I think, are being cautious because they
- 26:18Speaker 4: probably know that Martel's chirping ass, been probably giving pillow
- 26:23Speaker 4: talk because he's not that smart. And she probably got
- 26:25Speaker 4: tea on.
- 26:26Speaker 3: All of them.
- 26:26Speaker 4: So that's, oh, you should be friends with her. You know,
- 26:29Speaker 4: maybe she's not that bad. They're scared. Hell yeah. The
- 26:32Speaker 4: side chick, we know all the business. The side, you
- 26:35Speaker 4: get all the business.
- 26:36Speaker 3: At this point, though, my thing is she's already said it.
- 26:39Speaker 3: She's already crossed that line several times. Martel has already
- 26:42Speaker 3: crossed that line several times. We can take it back
- 26:44Speaker 3: to Destiny's Field Day with the balloons, Carlos. Destiny's Field Day.
- 26:49Speaker 3: We can take it back there, right? We can take
- 26:54Speaker 3: it back there when Martel crossed all kind of motherfucking
- 26:58Speaker 3: lines with Letitia and Marcel talking about saying the things
- 27:02Speaker 3: that he said. I'm not even going to repeat that, right?
- 27:05Speaker 3: Arianne has already crossed that line multiple times in her
- 27:09Speaker 3: online communication regarding this situation, regarding what she claims to
- 27:13Speaker 3: have witnessed Martel and Maurice participating in, even describing what
- 27:19Speaker 3: the women looked like to her in that case, which
- 27:22Speaker 3: you want. Anyway, what I'm saying is we've been past that.
- 27:28Speaker 3: And so I think that the reactions and the reception
- 27:31Speaker 3: of her should reflect that. I don't think Nell Fletcher
- 27:33Speaker 3: reflected that when she sat down with her. I think
- 27:37Speaker 3: when I couldn't believe I was watching those Ziploc sandwich bags,
- 27:41Speaker 3: storage sandwich bags coming out of Nell's satchel and being
- 27:45Speaker 3: placed on those and the grapes and shit that I
- 27:47Speaker 3: would have eaten and torn up being placed on those
- 27:50Speaker 3: plates so that Arianne could have something to snack on
- 27:53Speaker 3: while she sat in that chair and took zero accountability
- 27:56Speaker 3: for her situation. while claiming to do so. I was
- 27:59Speaker 3: surprised by that. Nell, we remember how you were introduced
- 28:02Speaker 3: to this show and you did bring up those counseling
- 28:05Speaker 3: sessions in that sit down with Arianne. And while Arianne, again,
- 28:10Speaker 3: I'm going to say it plainly, she is entitled to
- 28:13Speaker 3: have her say and share her side because damn it,
- 28:15Speaker 3: she got a side. But I just don't understand why
- 28:19Speaker 3: after her disrespect, I'll use the most broadly understood terms
- 28:25Speaker 3: I can, After her disrespecting these people on this level
- 28:28Speaker 3: that she has, I don't understand why everybody is so cool.
- 28:32Speaker 3: I just don't understand. Nobody said, okay, well, what the
- 28:35Speaker 3: fuck was up with that shit you said from the gate,
- 28:39Speaker 3: up on site, the same way she walked in. Because
- 28:42Speaker 3: Arianne's doing it. Arianne walked into whatever the fuck that was,
- 28:47Speaker 3: celebrating Martel, a toddler, for making his bed. You got
- 28:51Speaker 3: your builder's license. Wow.
- 28:52Speaker 2: He passed his builder's license.
- 28:54Speaker 3: You know, I mean, really. And it's an accomplishment. I'm
- 29:01Speaker 3: not trying to diminish his accomplishment, right? But at that situation,
- 29:05Speaker 3: Arianne came in on hot. She literally looked at Destiny
- 29:08Speaker 3: and said, what's the energy? And look back at Martel.
- 29:11Speaker 3: So she's doing what all the rest of them need
- 29:15Speaker 3: to be doing. And I don't understand why nobody's done it.
- 29:18Speaker 3: It should have been on site.
- 29:21Speaker 4: They actually said more stuff might come out. Like, I
- 29:24Speaker 4: know she's been running her mouth, but maybe there's more.
- 29:25Speaker 4: And it's also different when you talk about it online
- 29:27Speaker 4: or go on Touch K and then when you in
- 29:29Speaker 4: their face at lunch or dinner and you can maybe
- 29:31Speaker 4: bring some more receipts. I wonder if that's what they're
- 29:34Speaker 4: nervous about.
- 29:35Speaker 3: 100%.
- 29:35Speaker 5: It's emotional blackmail, Claudia. Yeah. Dustin, you know what it's like, Dustin.
- 29:39Speaker 5: Imagine if somebody wrote something in the comment section knowing
- 29:42Speaker 5: that you don't read the comments and one day you responded.
- 29:45Speaker 5: They would get aroused. Oh my God, Dustin finally acknowledged
- 29:48Speaker 5: my existence. I can finally pull him down into the
- 29:49Speaker 5: trenches where I already live. They can tell she wants
- 29:53Speaker 5: a moment so bad and I fear, Carlos blinked twice,
- 29:57Speaker 5: that eventually she's going to get a tussle out of somebody.
- 29:59Speaker 4: I think so too. I think she's going to get
- 30:01Speaker 4: sick of the judgment.
- 30:02Speaker 5: She's persistent.
- 30:03Speaker 3: Okay. They all should have checked her. I don't give
- 30:06Speaker 3: a fuck. We naming names. Destiny, Letitia, Letitia Scott, Destiny,
- 30:14Speaker 3: Letitia Scott, Kimmy Scott, Marie Scott, Marceau Scott. They all
- 30:21Speaker 3: should have checked that upon entry and upon arrival. And actually,
- 30:27Speaker 3: I'm surprised that they did not. They all should have
- 30:29Speaker 3: had a completely different reception of Arianne just based on
- 30:33Speaker 3: the notion of her presence alone. Because now we're here.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Now we have the eyes. Now we have all the players.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Let's get to the bottom of it. I wasn't in
- 30:41Speaker 3: no motherfucking Vegas fucking a linebacker. But you shows was
- 30:46Speaker 3: in there with Martel. You know what I'm saying? Like,
- 30:49Speaker 3: let's get to it. Where is that off the gate?
- 30:52Speaker 3: That's what we needed to see. All the lines have
- 30:55Speaker 3: already been crossed. We don't have any questions. There are
- 30:58Speaker 3: no preguntas on the piso regarding the character of Arianne
- 31:02Speaker 3: Curry at this point for anybody on this cast. So
- 31:05Speaker 3: I'm not understanding. why people are not coming to these
- 31:08Speaker 3: scenes with Vaseline on their face. I'm just playing. Played
- 31:14Speaker 3: it twice, Carlos. Does it happen? I will say this.
- 31:18Speaker 2: I will say this next week.
- 31:19Speaker 4: She was the bet on the show. It seemed like
- 31:21Speaker 4: she was the bet and they were the knobs because
- 31:23Speaker 4: they were looking like nervous and she wasn't.
- 31:25Speaker 5: Sorry, Carlos.
- 31:26Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Please, please, please.
- 31:29Speaker 1: You will see Kimmy and Tisha meet with her this
- 31:33Speaker 1: coming Saturday.
- 31:34Speaker 3: I've seen the clips. It was tepid.
- 31:37Speaker 2: It was tepid.
- 31:37Speaker 3: The temperature wasn't hot enough.
- 31:39Speaker 5: Dustin wants more violence, Carlos.
- 31:41Speaker 3: He wants more violence. It was tepid. The temperature wasn't
- 31:44Speaker 3: hot enough. There's no pleasantries to me. Okay. Maybe I
- 31:49Speaker 3: haven't grown. You know, I try.
- 31:51Speaker 5: You're an Aries.
- 31:52Speaker 3: You're an Aries, Dustin. I try to be a good nigga.
- 31:56Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? But like sometimes things just
- 31:59Speaker 3: take you back into those basic tenets of who you
- 32:05Speaker 3: are as a person. And her getting allowed all this wiggle,
- 32:08Speaker 3: all this ice rink that they put in front of
- 32:11Speaker 3: her to slide all over and around this season. I'm
- 32:15Speaker 3: wondering why no one has tortured and melted it yet.
- 32:18Speaker 5: Have her come on the show, Carlos. Have her come here.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Yeah, bring your ass, Ariel.
- 32:22Speaker 5: Ariel, bring your ass. Come here. We're not going to
- 32:26Speaker 5: jump you.
- 32:27Speaker 3: I'm calling in sick. I ain't even going to hold you.
- 32:29Speaker 3: I'm going to call in sick. Not call in sick, Dustin.
- 32:32Speaker 2: You're the historian of Huntsville.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Some things and some avenues are just not for you
- 32:41Speaker 3: to traverse. There are some corners and some things that
- 32:45Speaker 3: I just simply don't want to be connected with.
- 32:46Speaker 5: Wait, you sound like the cast now, Dustin. You see
- 32:48Speaker 5: how quickly that happens?
- 32:49Speaker 3: You got too much to lose. You sound just like
- 32:52Speaker 3: the cast. She didn't make no video about me saying
- 32:54Speaker 3: that I was fucking a linebacker in Vegas. You know
- 32:57Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Or whatever. Even if she did, again,
- 33:01Speaker 3: I don't want to be connected to her. So I'm
- 33:03Speaker 3: talking about a TV show in her absence, thank God.
- 33:07Speaker 3: And I don't understand why ain't nobody in Huntsville caught
- 33:12Speaker 3: her to the carpet in the ways that we all
- 33:13Speaker 3: know she deserved to be.
- 33:15Speaker 2: But Arianne, if you.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Do feel like making a video about us, it won't
- 33:19Speaker 4: be pleasant for you, the response I'm going to tell
- 33:21Speaker 4: you right now, because you do have two Aries here
- 33:23Speaker 4: that are reckless, don't feel your vibes.
- 33:26Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. We're not even going to
- 33:27Speaker 3: breathe life into any of that energy because we are
- 33:30Speaker 3: not even acknowledging it if she does or does not.
- 33:33Speaker 3: I don't think she will. Honestly, I believe that Arianne Curry,
- 33:38Speaker 3: the partner of Martell Holt, mother of two, working nurse,
- 33:42Speaker 3: now reality television participant, I think that she has a
- 33:47Speaker 3: lot bigger fish to fry than what the fuck we
- 33:50Speaker 3: have to say over here.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Or is it chicken tenders to fry? Because Dustin.
- 33:55Speaker 3: Whatever it is, we took the... Not.
- 33:57Speaker 5: Too much on Destiny now.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Whatever it is, we took the sticker off of the
- 34:01Speaker 3: pan we fried him in.
- 34:02Speaker 5: Okay, not too much on Destiny.
- 34:04Speaker 2: No, I had to segue. I'm a father of piece
- 34:07Speaker 2: of destiny.
- 34:07Speaker 4: I'm going to let you know right now. I haven't
- 34:09Speaker 4: been as involved as Dustin and he will have the
- 34:12Speaker 4: integrity to... And I will work on that. Maybe one
- 34:15Speaker 4: day I'll get there.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about this. In this scene, we also...
- 34:20Speaker 1: One of the things that you guys will see this
- 34:23Speaker 1: season is the dynamic between Destiny, Martel, and Arianne. You
- 34:30Speaker 1: got a little bit two weeks ago, episode two, when
- 34:34Speaker 1: Martel was asked, well, who's your best friend? And he
- 34:40Speaker 1: mentioned Fletch instead of choosing between Arianne and Destiny.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Ms.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Nell brought it up.
- 34:46Speaker 3: Say it's how he said it, Carlos.
- 34:48Speaker 5: Fletch it.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Say it's how he said it.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Who's your best friend, baby?
- 34:51Speaker 3: And then he was like, that's what he said when
- 34:55Speaker 3: she asked him.
- 34:56Speaker 4: Whenever a man's voice goes up like that, he is lying.
- 35:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:00Speaker 1: So, Ari and I said a story about Destiny that
- 35:05Speaker 1: I wanted y'all to talk about.
- 35:07Speaker 2: She said that she is not friends with Destiny.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Destiny made a comment a few seasons ago about how
- 35:13Speaker 1: she didn't want to be friends with her. She is
- 35:17Speaker 1: confused about, in her words, that weird-ass relationship that Martell
- 35:21Speaker 1: has with Destiny. She also mentioned that Destiny's card declined
- 35:26Speaker 1: when she ordered chicken tenders and french fries. And she said,
- 35:29Speaker 1: y'all call me coleslaw, call her chicken tenders. What did
- 35:33Speaker 1: y'all think about that particular comment? And do you think
- 35:36Speaker 1: that there's some jealousy there between Destiny and Martell's friendship?
- 35:41Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Absolutely.
- 35:46Speaker 4: The way she was acting made me feel like she
- 35:48Speaker 4: thinks that there was something going on between Martel and Destiny.
- 35:52Speaker 4: The way she's obsessed with dragging her and telling her
- 35:55Speaker 4: business about the credit card declining and all of that.
- 35:58Speaker 4: That's not the, I don't like you having a female friend. That's,
- 36:02Speaker 4: did y'all mess around? I feel a way and I'm jealous.
- 36:05Speaker 4: The way she's coming for Destiny like that is crazy.
- 36:07Speaker 4: We haven't even heard. She's doing a lot and I
- 36:11Speaker 4: think it's going to backfire and I hope it does.
- 36:16Speaker 5: Here's the thing. You know you a scoundrel when you're
- 36:18Speaker 5: worried the next woman's going to act like you.
- 36:21Speaker 3: I like that word.
- 36:21Speaker 5: But your biggest fear is that other people act like you.
- 36:24Speaker 5: What does that tell you about you, genius? Like, I
- 36:26Speaker 5: think she's worried that Destiny... Even the trauma bond. By
- 36:29Speaker 5: the way, boys and girls, let's have a little bit
- 36:31Speaker 5: of a Reading Rainbow moment. That is not what trauma
- 36:34Speaker 5: bond means, okay? Destiny and Martel both going through a
- 36:37Speaker 5: divorce is not a trauma bond. They're bonding over trauma. Oh,
- 36:39Speaker 5: my God.
- 36:39Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're clearing this up.
- 36:41Speaker 5: Please.
- 36:41Speaker 3: Please.
- 36:42Speaker 5: And that's how I knew she was a manipulator, because
- 36:43Speaker 5: they always use the words wrong. A trauma bond, for
- 36:45Speaker 5: those who don't know, is when you bond with the
- 36:48Speaker 5: person who caused you trauma or the person you experienced
- 36:50Speaker 5: trauma with. So if you bond with an abuser, or
- 36:53Speaker 5: let's say you're two kids who have a father who's
- 36:55Speaker 5: like Joe Jackson, Michael and Janet trauma bond. Not Martel
- 36:59Speaker 5: and goddamn Destiny, okay? Words mean things. So they're not
- 37:02Speaker 5: trauma bonding. Here's the thing, though. I think because she
- 37:05Speaker 5: doesn't know what the word means, I think she thinks
- 37:06Speaker 5: that her and Martel trauma bonded about being dragged by
- 37:09Speaker 5: the public. And she's fearful that the same way that
- 37:13Speaker 5: she stroked his ego during a low moment is what
- 37:15Speaker 5: Destiny's doing. Baby, let's put another word to your lexicon
- 37:18Speaker 5: to use correctly. That's called projecting. When you do something
- 37:21Speaker 5: and then fear that somebody else is going to do it,
- 37:23Speaker 5: that is called projecting.
- 37:25Speaker 2: So.
- 37:26Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk about the ponytail, the fact
- 37:28Speaker 5: that there's some clips missing. Let's talk about the fact
- 37:30Speaker 5: that if you're going to be smug, at least read
- 37:32Speaker 5: the dictionary. Because what you're not going to do to
- 37:33Speaker 5: Destiny is use the fact that she's unbothered by you
- 37:36Speaker 5: as a reason to try to tag her into some
- 37:38Speaker 5: weird threesome that she has no interest in. She don't
- 37:41Speaker 5: want that man. And here's the funny part is, if
- 37:43Speaker 5: she did, she would have already got him. I don't
- 37:46Speaker 5: think them not doing nothing is because, I'm going to
- 37:48Speaker 5: say this right now, Martel don't seem like he turns
- 37:51Speaker 5: down fine women. When given the opportunity. So if nothing's
- 37:55Speaker 5: happening between them, you should be sending her a thank
- 37:57Speaker 5: you card that she let you keep him and only
- 37:59Speaker 5: wants to be his best friend. Respectfully.
- 38:01Speaker 4: The way Martel's face lights up and get that little
- 38:05Speaker 4: smirk on his face when he's talking about, oh, we know,
- 38:08Speaker 4: this is my friend. I'll smack the shit out of him.
- 38:11Speaker 4: That is, you are playing with me right now. Either
- 38:15Speaker 4: something happened or he wanted something to happen.
- 38:18Speaker 5: He wanted something to happen.
- 38:19Speaker 4: Yes. His face, it says it all, y'all. Any woman
- 38:22Speaker 4: that has asked a narcissistic man, hey, did you ever
- 38:25Speaker 4: date that girl? And then they enjoy playing the game
- 38:28Speaker 4: with you. Oh, baby, you just insecure. You tripping with that.
- 38:31Speaker 5: I don't play my destiny. I bet you don't.
- 38:34Speaker 4: Yes, that goofy ass smile on his face. That smile
- 38:38Speaker 4: said that is what narcissists do. They look at you
- 38:40Speaker 4: with that little look and he knows it's good looking.
- 38:43Speaker 4: So he's like, oh, let me give a little look. Yo,
- 38:47Speaker 4: that look made me want to slap the shit out
- 38:48Speaker 4: of you. And I really have worked hard on myself
- 38:51Speaker 4: to not be violent. But I'm just saying, I'll slap
- 38:53Speaker 4: the shit out of him.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Let's also tap into the audacity, right? The audacity of
- 38:57Speaker 3: Arianne to even come onto the scene this season trying
- 39:00Speaker 3: to have a beef with somebody. You need to be
- 39:03Speaker 3: the nicest, the most docile, most palatable personality that we've
- 39:07Speaker 3: ever seen on this show. Because she's cleaning up the
- 39:12Speaker 3: wake of madness behind her name as she steps onto
- 39:16Speaker 3: the stage with these ladies and gentlemen, right? So the
- 39:19Speaker 3: audacity of her to even come on the show and
- 39:21Speaker 3: have the nerve to be mad at, I don't like Destiny.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Cause she said, you know, she made that comment or
- 39:27Speaker 3: whatever that was off color. Ma'am, she was discussing you
- 39:32Speaker 3: having an affair with her at the time, her ex-friend,
- 39:36Speaker 3: whatever it was. Whatever it was, she was her ex-friend
- 39:40Speaker 3: and she was his ex-wife that you dated him while
- 39:43Speaker 3: he was married to her. So I think, again, the
- 39:46Speaker 3: audacity for me is fascinating when I see her offer
- 39:50Speaker 3: her reflections on her connection to these people on this cast.
- 39:54Speaker 3: I can't believe that she would be that audacious to
- 39:58Speaker 3: even think she's in a position to be, call herself
- 40:01Speaker 3: beefing with somebody on this show.
- 40:04Speaker 4: Anyone sidekicks or grimy people do grimy things and they
- 40:08Speaker 4: get the benefits of the grimy thing, but then they
- 40:10Speaker 4: get so offended and so huffy and puffy when you
- 40:13Speaker 4: dare say anything. You're judging me. Yes, yes. Yes, I judge.
- 40:19Speaker 4: I do judge. I judge.
- 40:21Speaker 3: What a missed opportunity to show yourself better. Honestly, she
- 40:25Speaker 3: could have really finished this.
- 40:26Speaker 2: What a missed.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Opportunity to show yourself improved, matured, better, remorseful, take account
- 40:33Speaker 3: of true accountability, show yourself as a good mom, as
- 40:36Speaker 3: a hardworking nurse, which is something that can be related to.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Look how they just changed the professional status of nurses.
- 40:43Speaker 3: There's so many different avenues here. where Arianne could have
- 40:46Speaker 3: showed herself to have some sort of fortitude and be
- 40:50Speaker 3: worthwhile in a way that would be new for the audience.
- 40:53Speaker 3: And I feel like she's consistently dodged those opportunities like
- 40:57Speaker 3: they hurt. You know what I'm saying?
- 40:59Speaker 1: I think she's just staying out the way. Speaking of that,
- 41:02Speaker 1: I do want to ask this. We have one more
- 41:04Speaker 1: topic before we go. I do want to ask this, though,
- 41:06Speaker 1: because I did see a lot of those comments and
- 41:12Speaker 1: As the moderator, I'm only asking for the discussion, right?
- 41:16Speaker 1: So with that being said, could Arianne truthfully have done
- 41:24Speaker 1: anything to make y'all... Let me stick to the three
- 41:29Speaker 1: of y'all, okay? I'm not talking to the raindrops and
- 41:33Speaker 1: the Monday Night Live-ers. Is there anything, you know, be real.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Is there anything she could have done to change the
- 41:41Speaker 1: perception you guys have?
- 41:42Speaker 2: Because, because, you know, look, She.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Represents the worst nightmare for a wife, right?
- 41:51Speaker 2: Let's all call it what it is, right?
- 41:54Speaker 1: You all said the same thing early in this episode that, look,
- 41:57Speaker 1: it takes two to tango. She wasn't by herself, but
- 42:02Speaker 1: she elected to do it and she continued to do it, right?
- 42:05Speaker 1: Whereas Blue was honest about her mother finding out and saying,
- 42:09Speaker 1: I have to recuse myself from the situation because I
- 42:12Speaker 1: had no idea.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Now that I do know, I'm out of the picture, right?
- 42:17Speaker 1: Is there anything that she could have done for y'all
- 42:20Speaker 1: to have a different heart for her?
- 42:24Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go. She could have been sincere in her reflection.
- 42:28Speaker 3: She could have been sincere in her, um, explanations. She
- 42:32Speaker 3: could have showed more authentic emotion. She could have approached
- 42:36Speaker 3: it with a different temperament. She could have, um, leaned
- 42:41Speaker 3: into telling her story instead of being defensive and on
- 42:44Speaker 3: the defense and combative with everybody she sits down with.
- 42:48Speaker 3: Her speech cadence is accelerated because she's anticipating a moment
- 42:54Speaker 3: where she's going to have to defend herself. So she
- 42:57Speaker 3: has a huge bag of chips, Tostitos scoops on her shoulder,
- 43:01Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, carrying all of that on her.
- 43:05Speaker 3: And I think that the culmination of all those things
- 43:08Speaker 3: It just hasn't been what would have showed me some
- 43:13Speaker 3: sort of real remorse and allowed me to look at
- 43:15Speaker 3: her differently. She could have acted like she gave a
- 43:18Speaker 3: fuck about how people viewed her when she came on here.
- 43:21Speaker 3: She could have leaned into the ugly parts. I regret
- 43:24Speaker 3: every single day that my relationship with Martell started the
- 43:27Speaker 3: way it did. I feel bad that people think I'm
- 43:29Speaker 3: a heartless person who don't care about messing up a family.
- 43:33Speaker 3: I regret I did that because I hate the way
- 43:35Speaker 3: it makes me look. I'm embarrassed that me and his
- 43:38Speaker 3: ex-wife have had drama that we've had. I hate all
- 43:41Speaker 3: of it. I hate the way it looks. She ain't
- 43:44Speaker 3: said none of that shit. She sat up there and
- 43:46Speaker 3: fake tears in the confessional and then was defensive and
- 43:50Speaker 3: started even, in fact, coming up with weak insults like
- 43:53Speaker 3: chicken tender for destiny. That's a different approach to now
- 43:57Speaker 3: it's my turn to shift the lens that people view
- 44:01Speaker 3: me through. So yes, to answer your question, there's something
- 44:05Speaker 3: that she could have done to change my view of her,
- 44:07Speaker 3: which would have been something at all.
- 44:10Speaker 5: I will say, too, to back up what Dustin said,
- 44:12Speaker 5: whenever it comes to being perceived publicly, you guys know
- 44:16Speaker 5: I have a past doing some work as a fixer
- 44:18Speaker 5: on the back end. And one of the things we
- 44:20Speaker 5: always tell clients is there's three lanes of audience. There
- 44:24Speaker 5: are the folks who are going to be determined to
- 44:25Speaker 5: hate you. No matter what you do, they don't like
- 44:28Speaker 5: your eyes. They think that you don't deserve the spot
- 44:30Speaker 5: that you're in. They already showed up hating you without
- 44:32Speaker 5: even knowing anything about you. Then they're going to be
- 44:35Speaker 5: the folks who are determined to love you. They either
- 44:36Speaker 5: love a villain or they're a dirty bird brain themselves
- 44:39Speaker 5: and they see you in them and they're happy that
- 44:40Speaker 5: one day y'all made it on top of the stage. Caw-caw, right?
- 44:43Speaker 5: Birds like other birds. The third group are folks who
- 44:46Speaker 5: are open to reason. I think the third group would
- 44:50Speaker 5: have been her saving grace. Reality TV, and Carlos is
- 44:54Speaker 5: a producer, you can attest to this, is full of
- 44:56Speaker 5: people with interesting origin stories where we either weren't checking
- 45:00Speaker 5: for them or we didn't like them and they course
- 45:02Speaker 5: correct and we find ourselves begrudgingly loving them. Perfect example,
- 45:05Speaker 5: Love Island, a guy named Corbin, right? Everybody couldn't stand
- 45:08Speaker 5: Corbin at the beginning, but because of his consistency of
- 45:11Speaker 5: character and the fact that he was often the one
- 45:13Speaker 5: being the voice of reason, people kept on saying, oh
- 45:16Speaker 5: my God, I can't believe I like Corbin a little bit.
- 45:18Speaker 2: And we were all determined to clown him. That's how
- 45:20Speaker 2: some people feel about destiny. Daphne's another great example.
- 45:25Speaker 5: Another great example. So sincerity will always get the third group,
- 45:30Speaker 5: and the third group ends up being your new fan base.
- 45:33Speaker 5: I am someone who lives in the third group. I'm always...
- 45:35Speaker 5: How many times have I said, even with Angel Massey,
- 45:37Speaker 5: I was like, look, if she shows up and shows accountability,
- 45:40Speaker 5: I might be able to stand her if she ever
- 45:41Speaker 5: shows up on my screen again. There are people who
- 45:43Speaker 5: are actually open to reason, and I think one of
- 45:45Speaker 5: the biggest disservices we do to audiences, particularly reality TV
- 45:49Speaker 5: show audiences, is that we don't admit... that on reality TV,
- 45:52Speaker 5: people do get a chance to reinvent themselves. No matter how,
- 45:55Speaker 5: Kim Kardashian, hello.
- 45:57Speaker 3: That's a great point.
- 45:58Speaker 5: Are we kidding right now?
- 45:59Speaker 3: Great point.
- 46:00Speaker 5: There are folks who despise Kim Kardashian who are now
- 46:03Speaker 5: wearing skims.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:05Speaker 5: So there was an opportunity. I think it's lazy and
- 46:07Speaker 5: defeatist to act like just because two of the groups
- 46:10Speaker 5: don't like you, that the third never existed because the
- 46:12Speaker 5: third could have actually fought for you. Now you put
- 46:15Speaker 5: us all in the predicament, dummy.
- 46:16Speaker 6: Sorry.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Great point, boo. Agreed.
- 46:20Speaker 4: She blew her chance. All these years, it was what
- 46:24Speaker 4: other people were saying about you and we weren't really
- 46:26Speaker 4: hearing from you outside of your little whack-ass interviews on
- 46:28Speaker 4: some blogger's site, right? You finally have the floor. You're
- 46:31Speaker 4: finally on camera. You finally got to sign a release
- 46:34Speaker 4: and maybe a little check. And you're finally here and
- 46:37Speaker 4: you finally get your chance. And this is what you do.
- 46:40Speaker 4: This is like, were you not rehearsing? Were you not
- 46:43Speaker 4: going over? Did you not put any thought into how
- 46:45Speaker 4: you were going to come out and just show up?
- 46:48Speaker 4: She came out so defensive. I don't know who that's
- 46:52Speaker 4: speaking to. I don't know who can resonate with that
- 46:54Speaker 4: and feel for her. I think people want to have
- 46:58Speaker 4: it both ways. They want to be a badass and
- 47:00Speaker 4: do the thing and be the side chick and I
- 47:02Speaker 4: don't give a damn. My man, my man, my man.
- 47:05Speaker 4: And they also don't want to get criticism for it.
- 47:07Speaker 4: They want it to be pain-free. Sometimes you got to
- 47:10Speaker 4: just like take the L, swallow your pride, maybe have
- 47:13Speaker 4: a couple of episodes, maybe three episodes of it being uncomfortable.
- 47:17Speaker 4: And then when you get on the other side of it,
- 47:18Speaker 4: you can reinvent yourself or you can recalibrate. But she
- 47:22Speaker 4: came in there like a bitch and she was rude
- 47:26Speaker 4: and she was mean and there was no redeeming qualities
- 47:28Speaker 4: about her. And then she couldn't even force a tear. Listen,
- 47:30Speaker 4: I know bad acting. Like I say, I do it
- 47:31Speaker 4: all the time on Tubi.
- 47:33Speaker 2: Eyebrows on them. Yeah.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Don't look off to the side, Claudia.
- 47:45Speaker 4: The way you cry in a scene, okay?
- 47:51Speaker 3: It was just like when Kim Zolciak was listening to
- 47:53Speaker 3: all them illnesses and Andy was like, so did you have?
- 48:01Speaker 3: It was just like that. I was like, where is it?
- 48:04Speaker 3: Y'all going to do it. Go on and order that
- 48:06Speaker 3: shit you got to smell to make you cry. Go
- 48:08Speaker 3: in and order that so when you get in the confessional,
- 48:10Speaker 3: we can at least think you tried.
- 48:13Speaker 4: I have a tip. I can help you, Arianne. So I, too,
- 48:17Speaker 4: struggle with crying on cue because it's really hard. I'm
- 48:19Speaker 4: no Angela Bassett. I know where I stand on the
- 48:21Speaker 4: food chain of acting. So there's a couple tips you
- 48:23Speaker 4: can use if you want to make yourself cry. Aspiring actors,
- 48:26Speaker 4: pay attention. So what I do is I get some
- 48:29Speaker 4: liquid soap and I put it on my fingertips or
- 48:31Speaker 4: underneath my nail. So if I don't want to cry
- 48:33Speaker 4: at the beginning of the scene, I don't touch my
- 48:35Speaker 4: eye until I need like about... six or seven seconds
- 48:38Speaker 4: before I need the tear. So Sam talking, Justin, me
- 48:41Speaker 4: and you were talking.
- 48:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:42Speaker 4: I just, I don't like where this is going. I
- 48:44Speaker 4: just feel like you're not taking me seriously.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:47Speaker 4: While you're talking, you talk, do your part.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah. No, I love Arianne and we chose
- 48:53Speaker 3: each other. And, you know, this is, we're doing good
- 48:55Speaker 3: with the co-parenting. And, you know, I love her, man.
- 48:59Speaker 3: I'm thinking about marriage.
- 49:01Speaker 4: I touch my eye with the soap. And if I
- 49:04Speaker 4: stare off to the side into a light long enough,
- 49:05Speaker 4: it won't blink.
- 49:08Speaker 3: Technique, y'all.
- 49:09Speaker 4: Well, hold on.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Just give me a minute. Claudia, please.
- 49:12Speaker 4: It's coming.
- 49:17Speaker 1: Wait, hold on.
- 49:19Speaker 3: See? What is happening? Same exact thing we saw. The
- 49:23Speaker 3: same thing we saw in that confessional chair.
- 49:25Speaker 4: My nose got red there.
- 49:27Speaker 5: Oh, my nose is getting red.
- 49:29Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Good job, Claudia.
- 49:35Speaker 5: She's about to do that for the reunion. Watch the reunion. Carlos,
- 49:37Speaker 5: wash her hands at the reunion. Watch them.
- 49:40Speaker 3: Carlos, how hard was y'all laughing when y'all seen the
- 49:42Speaker 3: raw cut of Arianne?
- 49:44Speaker 1: I am not talking about it.
- 49:46Speaker 3: How hard was y'all laughing?
- 49:50Speaker 4: And if you don't have time, right? If you pluck
- 49:53Speaker 4: one of your nose hairs with tweezers, it'll make you cry, Arianne.
- 49:56Speaker 4: I got you, girlfriend. See, I'm a girl's girl. Y'all
- 49:59Speaker 4: be thinking I'm hating. I'm trying to help a side
- 50:00Speaker 4: hoe out.
- 50:00Speaker 5: You're not helping a side hoe out. So Claudia, your mother,
- 50:06Speaker 5: your mother, by the way, we asked about my mom.
- 50:08Speaker 5: Are you comfortable mentioning about your mother's reaction to, because,
- 50:15Speaker 5: you know, we bond over that.
- 50:17Speaker 4: So my mom was the wife. She was the wife.
- 50:20Speaker 5: How she did with it. Yeah.
- 50:21Speaker 4: So my father brought her over from Italy and then started,
- 50:26Speaker 4: he kissed somebody else at the wedding. And so he
- 50:28Speaker 4: started like, I used to hear conversations on the phone
- 50:31Speaker 4: with the mistress and I found the nightgown in the house.
- 50:36Speaker 4: So I was 10 years old and I had to
- 50:37Speaker 4: tell my mom like what I heard and I had
- 50:40Speaker 4: to like kind of break a heart a little bit.
- 50:42Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what, so I have a very strong,
- 50:44Speaker 4: so when anyone tries to accuse me of being a
- 50:46Speaker 4: side chick or that I would ever mess with a
- 50:49Speaker 4: married man, I'm like, if you only knew my origin story,
- 50:51Speaker 4: you would know how strongly I feel about that. Like,
- 50:53Speaker 4: I've almost gotten violent with people. When married men try
- 50:58Speaker 4: to hit on me, I get so mad that you
- 51:00Speaker 4: think that I'm okay with that. And your mom didn't know.
- 51:02Speaker 4: It's one thing to not know, but when you know,
- 51:04Speaker 4: and listen, you're from Huntsville, Alabama, and you didn't know
- 51:08Speaker 4: Martell Holt was married on the most popular show, the
- 51:11Speaker 4: only show.
- 51:13Speaker 2: It was before the show though.
- 51:16Speaker 4: Okay, but you were in a small town, right?
- 51:18Speaker 2: Small town.
- 51:19Speaker 5: No, he was a local celebrity, Carlos. He was a
- 51:20Speaker 5: local celebrity, can.
- 51:21Speaker 3: We be honest?
- 51:21Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify before the show.
- 51:23Speaker 1: But yeah, I was with Claudia in terms of when
- 51:27Speaker 1: I met the Holtz three years prior to doing the
- 51:30Speaker 1: show with them, from my understanding.
- 51:33Speaker 2: As a journalist, I did.
- 51:37Speaker 1: They were definitely.
- 51:41Speaker 2: prominent figures.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Well known. Thank you.
- 51:43Speaker 5: Everybody knew. And mind you, by the way, baby, you
- 51:46Speaker 5: 35 now. You're old enough to have a geriatric pregnancy.
- 51:49Speaker 5: Can we put the young girl thing to bed? Can
- 51:51Speaker 5: we stop with the I was a young girl?
- 51:54Speaker 4: The girls we use in that young thing, oh, this
- 51:57Speaker 4: goofy young, when they want to get a pass on.
- 51:59Speaker 4: And again, we keep giving it to Arianne and she
- 52:02Speaker 4: deserves it. But Martel, you are just as guilty, if
- 52:06Speaker 4: not more. You're the one that made value.
- 52:07Speaker 5: We've been lashing him, though.
- 52:08Speaker 3: He's used to being lashed.
- 52:09Speaker 5: We've been lashed, Martel.
- 52:10Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I do want to get to this
- 52:14Speaker 1: one thing, too. What did y'all think of the conversation
- 52:17Speaker 1: between Marceau and his brother, Maurice? where Maurice did ask
- 52:22Speaker 1: Marceau if he was happy in his marriage. And Marceau
- 52:26Speaker 1: pretty much was saying how, you know, look, they are married.
- 52:32Speaker 1: They go along to get along and really made it
- 52:35Speaker 1: seem like it was just something that was there versus
- 52:41Speaker 1: something that, you know, was sort of like nourished for them.
- 52:49Speaker 3: I thought that what they should have been doing, first
- 52:51Speaker 3: of all, Marceau should have been working while he was
- 52:53Speaker 3: talking because they got to finish Jordan Lane and Kimmy
- 52:56Speaker 3: is obviously at her wit's end with all that shit, period.
- 52:59Speaker 3: That's why she was in Maurice's ass like that at
- 53:01Speaker 3: the table when they was discussing Whitehall, right? So I
- 53:04Speaker 3: thought Marceau, I didn't name everybody on the goddamn show
- 53:08Speaker 3: except who I'm talking about. I thought Marceau should have
- 53:11Speaker 3: absolutely been working while they were talking. And listen, he
- 53:14Speaker 3: didn't do anything in that conversation to make people believe
- 53:18Speaker 3: in The state of their union, I personally think Marcel
- 53:22Speaker 3: and Tisha are doing just fine. They're just getting on
- 53:25Speaker 3: each other's nerves right now, and they just lost that house.
- 53:27Speaker 3: And when financial shit happens in a relationship, you be
- 53:30Speaker 3: mad at each other for a minute. You know what
- 53:32Speaker 3: I'm saying? And I just think that's where they're at
- 53:34Speaker 3: with it. I don't think they're in danger of a
- 53:39Speaker 3: eureka moment in their marriage that's going to change the
- 53:42Speaker 3: way that they operate. They all right. and finish the
- 53:45Speaker 3: Kimmy's restaurant because I want to know about the food.
- 53:47Speaker 3: I want to know the decor. Like, I'm so curious
- 53:50Speaker 3: about Jordan Lane. So get done, Marceau. Shit. That's it.
- 53:54Speaker 2: All right.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Blue has a flight to catch. Final, because Blue has
- 53:58Speaker 1: a flight to catch. First of all, safe travels, Blue.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Ain't nothing like a good old red eye.
- 54:04Speaker 6: All right.
- 54:04Speaker 2: So Blue, your final words and then I'll let you go.
- 54:09Speaker 5: My final words are, I hope you recognize in my story,
- 54:12Speaker 5: my mother was the mistress in Claudia's story Her mother
- 54:15Speaker 5: was the one who was dealing with an outside situation.
- 54:18Speaker 5: And you see how the women didn't have to attack
- 54:21Speaker 5: each other. I just need you to understand there always
- 54:25Speaker 5: was another option. And so if there's nothing else that
- 54:28Speaker 5: we get, if there's any birds who are watching this
- 54:31Speaker 5: who are open to finding new ways, there's very few
- 54:35Speaker 5: things in this world that a little bit of sincerity
- 54:37Speaker 5: and a ton of accountability and time can't fix. Even
- 54:40Speaker 5: if people are determined to misunderstand you, You can always
- 54:43Speaker 5: course correct to the people whose hearts are open. And
- 54:45Speaker 5: I am hoping at some point when this gimmick runs out,
- 54:48Speaker 5: maybe for the reunion when the soap trick that Claudia
- 54:51Speaker 5: taught is used, we'll see the human side of Arianne
- 54:55Speaker 5: and not the unpaid actress who's allegedly on a reality show.
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- 55:22Speaker 5: I hate that I'm going to miss the end of this,
- 55:24Speaker 5: but I will be watching the replay soon. on my flight.
- 55:26Speaker 5: Please send me travel mercies because it's raining right now.
- 55:29Speaker 2: Safe travels, baby. Thank y'all for Blue.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Claudia, your thoughts on Marcel and Marie's conversation. Are you
- 55:39Speaker 1: concerned about the state of Marcel and Tisha's marriage based
- 55:42Speaker 1: on that conversation?
- 55:45Speaker 4: A little bit, because the end of last season, it
- 55:47Speaker 4: seemed like that started then, right? And I was like, ooh, okay.
- 55:50Speaker 4: But then again, you just never know what's storyline and
- 55:52Speaker 4: what's real. But from what we see on television, I
- 55:56Speaker 4: was like, ooh, that's like the second time he didn't
- 55:58Speaker 4: kind of allude to not really being that happy. So
- 56:03Speaker 4: that's really not a good sign. But then again, maybe
- 56:07Speaker 4: they're just being transparent and giving us what they're supposed
- 56:09Speaker 4: to give, because you're not supposed to sit there and
- 56:11Speaker 4: act fake and I mean, even in the healthiest of relationships,
- 56:15Speaker 4: you go through times where you're sick of each other.
- 56:17Speaker 4: I mean, I went on a reality show. My guy
- 56:19Speaker 4: at the time said he wasn't feeling sexually attracted to
- 56:21Speaker 4: me at the time. And I wasn't either, except that
- 56:24Speaker 4: I was lying. I was trying to protect him in
- 56:26Speaker 4: that moment. You know what I mean? And I even
- 56:28Speaker 4: told him, say the truth. And you should. I think
- 56:31Speaker 4: that makes you more believable. And even, again, like I said,
- 56:35Speaker 4: in happy couples, there may be times where one falls
- 56:38Speaker 4: out of love with the other one and then you
- 56:39Speaker 4: get back on track. I think you can't be with
- 56:42Speaker 4: someone for 20 years, 15 years, whatever, without going through
- 56:45Speaker 4: a phase. It's not always going to be rainbows and
- 56:47Speaker 4: butterflies consistently throughout. Sometimes they do shit that you're like,
- 56:50Speaker 4: I don't know about this anymore. And then you get
- 56:52Speaker 4: back right.
- 56:54Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 56:55Speaker 1: No, look, so there's a scene because, you know, one
- 56:59Speaker 1: of the perks about you guys talking to me live is.
- 57:03Speaker 1: and off camera, is the fact that y'all give exclusive tea.
- 57:07Speaker 1: There is a scene this season between Tisha and Marceau that.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Shocked me to my core based on the depths of
- 57:18Speaker 1: the conversations that they were having in regards to the
- 57:23Speaker 1: state of their marriage. So this scene that we saw
- 57:27Speaker 1: in this past Saturday's episode was just the beginning of
- 57:30Speaker 1: what's to come. And it's super sad.
- 57:34Speaker 2: It's like... sad based on their conversation.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Oh, it's, I watched it twice just because you're not
- 57:42Speaker 1: like you watch things for the first time and you're
- 57:44Speaker 1: like shocked. And you, and after, and you're like, wait
- 57:47Speaker 1: a minute, did I miss something? Like, did I really
- 57:50Speaker 1: watch what I thought I watched? And I watched it again.
- 57:52Speaker 1: And I'm like, and what's so interesting is they are,
- 58:00Speaker 1: they're saying things that they never said before.
- 58:05Speaker 2: I'm trying to be your mama. So, look, I can't
- 58:11Speaker 2: wait for you guys to see that. It's a great scene. Listen,
- 58:14Speaker 2: great conversation tonight.
- 58:17Speaker 1: Listen, I look forward to every Monday, especially because we
- 58:20Speaker 1: get to talk about Love and Marriage Huntsman this season. Anyways,
- 58:26Speaker 1: thank you, Rae Drops. Another hot episode tonight. Tomorrow, I'm
- 58:30Speaker 1: dropping it at noon. Watch it.
- 58:32Speaker 2: It's a really good one. It's really fun.
- 58:35Speaker 1: And listen, support Claudia, support Dustin, support Blue.
- 58:39Speaker 2: And you will see us next Monday. Love you guys.
- 58:43Speaker 3: Have a good one.
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