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Is Jaime St. James Ready to Rock Again? The Black & Blue Singer Opens Up · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Mike from Heaven Shall Burn and you're watching CMS TV.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is your classic metal show right here on theclassicmetalshow.com.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kicking off that rock block,
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  SPEAKER_03: we heard something from Testament,
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  SPEAKER_03: the Parabellum there with Meant to Be for Chris,
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  SPEAKER_03: Psycho Circus in there from Kiss for Floyd Gundoli.
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  SPEAKER_03: Cinderella with Hell on Wheels for Phil Tags,
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  SPEAKER_03: Lillian Axe with Show a Little Love for Skippy,
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  SPEAKER_03: and something brand new there from Thayer St.
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  SPEAKER_03: James called Bombshell from the CD of the same name.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I want to welcome back to the show after a many,
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  SPEAKER_03: many, many year hiatus, my good friend, Jamie St. James.
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  SPEAKER_03: What's going on, Jamie?
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  SPEAKER_03: Jamie St. James.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yo, how's it going, my good buddy Neely?
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  SPEAKER_03: How are you?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's been a long time.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to shout at us, though, Jamie.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, am I yelling?
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  SPEAKER_03: I know you're excited to be on the almighty classic metal show,
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  SPEAKER_03: and we're excited to have you back after a lot of years.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think the last time I had you on the show was,
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  SPEAKER_03: shoot, I think it was when we had Lon Friend in the studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even remember, but it's good to be back.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Jamie,
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  SPEAKER_03: we reconnected here a little while ago because I asked you to do a little cameo in
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  SPEAKER_03: the upcoming 30th anniversary book for the Classic Metal Show because you
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  SPEAKER_03: and I have some history that goes back to Cleveland.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, about 25 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, uh,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: just a little backstory for the new fans who maybe don't know the story,
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  SPEAKER_03: but, uh, I just happened to run into you at a docking show at the Cleveland Agora.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it was just a strange coincidence that you had just recently moved into the area
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  SPEAKER_03: and it was like, what are you doing here?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'll let you tell the story of how you ended up in the Cleveland area.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: Essentially,
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a girlfriend at the time that was from there and I was looking to buy a house
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  SPEAKER_00: in California and I went to visit Cleveland at Christmas time and I decided to look
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  SPEAKER_00: at houses and I found this house for so cheap,
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  SPEAKER_00: seven acres and out in the middle of nowhere really, but it was a snow belt.
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  SPEAKER_00: But anyway,
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  SPEAKER_00: I got this house and I just decided to do it and I I ended up,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that night at dock and I saw Billy Morris playing guitar and I said,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're going to be in my band.
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  SPEAKER_00: I knew I was going to put a band together there and got an RV and just did all
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  SPEAKER_00: that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's so funny because I was right down the street from where you did the show, really.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't very, very far from the radio station.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, meeting you was very cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was completely unexpected.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was just like, why are you here?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, it was very strange, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: And at the time, you know, you agreed to...
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  SPEAKER_03: Allow me to interview you for the Music's Bottom Line magazine,
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  SPEAKER_03: which my partner Chris here owned at the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's actually how I met Chris was because of his magazine Music's Bottom Line.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: you allowed me to come out to your house and interview you and get
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  SPEAKER_03: a nice interview put into his magazine at the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I still have a copy of that magazine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's funny when I was in the airport,
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  SPEAKER_00: when I Finally, I had a moving company take my stuff out and I flew to Cleveland.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was in the airport waiting for my bags.
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  SPEAKER_00: Standing next to me was Janie Lane waiting for his bag.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says, what are you doing here?
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm going to live here.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first thing he said was, oh, the mistake by the lake.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was kind of funny.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go, well, that's weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was living in Ohio at that time, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I did end up hanging out with Jamie.
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  SPEAKER_00: We hung out a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you took over a warrant there for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did for almost four years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's just a very strange circle of life,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: when it comes to this music business,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: who you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: who you run into,
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  SPEAKER_03: who you stay in contact with,
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  SPEAKER_03: the incestuousness of the music business being that you,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: mentioned seeing Janie Lane in the airport and,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know, he lived in the Akron, Ohio area, which is where he was from.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he and I went to rival high schools, actually.
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  SPEAKER_03: And kind of strange.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then, of course, I met Chris.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, here we are 30 years later.
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  SPEAKER_03: And here you are back on the show after a quarter century.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember coming down to the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was in the first or second time I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was there for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was there all night.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was in the studio with you all, I think, all night.
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  SPEAKER_03: You brought me the whole black and blue catalog and we told stories and played black
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  SPEAKER_03: and blue music and all kinds of great things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was there until the wee hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was great.
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  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, Jamie,
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  SPEAKER_01: as somebody that's not,
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  SPEAKER_01: that's just more of a fan than anything, I got to ask you about you right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, because I'm a little confused, as I'm sure a lot of fans are right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: You released black and blue music.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without Tommy, then you release Tommy and You that's not Black and Blue.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where are we at?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are these two projects?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are these maybe going to become one thing?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, where are we at musically right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's kind of odd.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Black and Blue released Lifeline, a video for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That must be what you're referring to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's two songs that we recorded.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we put them out, Black and Blue, and we did this cool video on our rooftop and everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before Black and Blue decided to even do that, Tommy and I were working on new music.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's two separate projects.
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  SPEAKER_00: Patrick Young, his idea to go in and record, and I said, why?
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  SPEAKER_00: And he said, I want to just make some noise.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So...
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just two separate things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I told him then, I said, you know, me and Tommy are going to do something here soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he didn't know it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I just said, I want to make sure you understand that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it is a little confusing, but Tommy doesn't have any intentions of joining Black and Blue.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a project that just him and I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because we can write whatever we want.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Thayer St. James.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can write the stuff that just makes us happy, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's no preconceived black and blue kind of thing about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Tommy loves us.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's my best friend.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anytime we play and he's around,
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  SPEAKER_00: he'll come up and jam with us on stage and that kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, he is still Kiss's guitarist, even though they don't do a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: He is that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he's not going to join black and blue.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's two different things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it difficult?
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  SPEAKER_01: And difficult is probably the wrong word, but you guys have always been associated with KISS.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the way back,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's obviously famous that Gene found you guys or discovered you guys or whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, Tommy...
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  SPEAKER_01: Was in the camp doing the web work and whatever, and then he ends up in the band.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's always been that KISS connection.
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  SPEAKER_01: Has that been past the initial signing, once you stretched out onto your own?
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  SPEAKER_01: Was that a hindrance because everybody was always comparing you to KISS
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  SPEAKER_01: and always saying black and blue in the same sentence as KISS?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or was that obviously helpful because KISS was at the top of the mountain,
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  SPEAKER_01: the kings of the mountain, as they say?
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  SPEAKER_01: And you guys were kind of their protégés.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I imagine maybe a little of both?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we didn't meet anybody in Kiss until 1985, but we were signed in 1983.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our first album was recorded by Dieter Dirks in Germany.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our second album was Bruce Fairbairn, Bob Rock, and Mike Frazier in Canada.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because of the Without Love album in 1985, we got the Kiss tour.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's when KISS kind of came into our life, really.
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  SPEAKER_00: And towards the end of that tour,
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually thought of asking Gene to produce us,
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  SPEAKER_00: because at the time I wanted somebody on our side,
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  SPEAKER_00: rather than the producer being on the label side,
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  SPEAKER_00: commercial, commercial, you know, I gotta be a hit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's when we did Nasty Nasty with Gene.
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  SPEAKER_00: To answer your question, I don't think it's ever hindered us at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love the guys in KISS.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're friendly with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to the last shows.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tommy flew me out to the Madison Square Garden for the last two shows of The End of the Road.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm backstage with them and hanging out.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've always been tight.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm especially tight with Gene, obviously, because he produced two records.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's always been good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Tommy works out very well for Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_03: No kidding.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, let's talk about this little EP there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: You've been very kind about sending that out.
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  SPEAKER_03: So if you want to go pick this up, first of all, Jamie, where can people get this?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's only one place you can get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: ThayerStJames.com.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no streaming.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a physical product.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can get bombshell on CDs only worldwide anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: We ship it right to you and you can get On record,
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  SPEAKER_00: an album, signed bombshells, signed the Lost Tapes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's something that Tommy,
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  SPEAKER_00: the first thing Tommy and I did is they were saying,
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  SPEAKER_00: James, it's called the Lost Tapes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was the tapes that we did in 1989 when Black and Blue was ending.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was the last songs Tommy and I wrote and recorded together.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we saved them, barely.
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  SPEAKER_00: All the tapes were disintegrating, but we found a DAT tape and We saved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the record, the album is 11 songs, both those projects on one record.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can get all that at thayerstjames.com.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Plumshell is all brand new music written in 2025, recorded in 2025.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's basically just me and Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm playing all the drums.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we wrote songs that we just wanted to That made us happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I miss the recording studio so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love recording.
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  SPEAKER_00: I miss making records.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's been just a blast and a pleasure for me, for sure.
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• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I noticed there's a lot of 70s influences on these songs.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like the song Bombshell kind of reminds me of like Run, Run, Run Away from Slade in a way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kind of has that beat to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've heard that before.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't intentional, but, you know, look, I listen to a lot of, I'm a 70s guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I listen to tons of 70s,
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  SPEAKER_00: Bowie, you know, Slade, whatever, T-Rex, all that kind of stuff I like a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: So...
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't surprise me at all, but yeah, it's got that groove for sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I noticed you have some Beatles influences in this record
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  SPEAKER_03: and some Cheap Trick in there.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: I hear some Cheap Trick.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just hear all kinds of 70s influences in this, and it's a very cool thing.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: And when you put a band together when you were in the Cleveland area,
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  SPEAKER_03: you wanted to call it The Glorious Things because you sort of have an affection for
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  SPEAKER_03: the glam rock era, the T-Rex era of the 70s.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it ended up being your self-titled release, your St. James release.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I always thought that your 70s influences,
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  SPEAKER_03: because you shared a lot of the songs with me when you were writing those songs
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  SPEAKER_03: and demoing them, and I could pick all the influences out listening to it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it was very cool.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: I like your take and put your own stamp on it, as it were.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's just natural,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: because we're talking about all the stuff I grew up listening to,
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  SPEAKER_00: and so it's just embedded in me, and it's just what comes out, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: that Glorious Things,
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  SPEAKER_00: I liked the name, but every time anybody, they thought it was a religious band.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't understand that, but there's some religious thing with Glorious Things.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: I said, well, we're not, but anyway, just ended up calling at St. James, but...
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I remember there was a song on that disc that sounded like Chicago a little
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  SPEAKER_03: bit.
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  SPEAKER_03: It did.
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  SPEAKER_03: It had a lot of 25 or 6 to 4 sounds.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is just, you know, just by chance.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, what comes out of you naturally, because I'm just organic, it just comes out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't try to sound like anything on purpose, but it's in me, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what comes out, I guess.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's nice just to work with Tommy again.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of these songs really started with me on the guitar,
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  SPEAKER_00: showing him what I've got, and then he puts his Tommy magic on there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's part of the pleasure of the whole thing, is being able to work with Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, let me ask the obvious question then.
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  SPEAKER_01: Two obvious questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: One, will there be more?
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  SPEAKER_01: And two,
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  SPEAKER_01: if there is more,
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  SPEAKER_01: will there be,
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  SPEAKER_01: even if it's limited run,
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  SPEAKER_01: will there be The chance of a limited,
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  SPEAKER_01: even if it was LA,
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  SPEAKER_01: Chicago,
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  SPEAKER_01: New York, you know, will that potentially happen with you two back together again?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we've already talked and Tommy wants to do more.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, as soon as we finished this and we sat and absorbed it a little bit
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  SPEAKER_00: and was listening to it, we both really like it so much.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Tommy goes, we got to do this again.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go, well, let's get this one out first.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm pretty sure we'll probably do another.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've talked to him slightly about, you know, would we ever want to play live?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we could.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: All we have to do is just get a drummer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the engineer, his name's Rob Dyker, and he played all the bass on this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's just the three of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I would have him play bass and we just need a drummer.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I would like to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's up to Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_00: If Tommy ever...
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, gets a wild hair.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll say, let's do it.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let's play live.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that that's not for sure.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: But really, I'm pretty sure that we're going to do another CD.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know, too.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm always writing for it.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: So there is new music.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's good coming.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Is there, or more, what do you think about his new band that he just announced last week?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Was it Shogun Mojo?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he announced another band.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, does that get in the way of what you wanted?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I knew about that.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: He played me the whole thing.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: We recorded up in Oregon,
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: and he has a beach house in Oregon,
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: so we used to drive in from the beach to Portland to record,
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: and he played me all that stuff.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's just kind of a strange thing because Tommy Thayer has a baby with a girl in Prague.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: So he is in Prague a lot.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Dan Reed lives in Prague.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny because they're both from Portland.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: So they connected up and they did this project.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what he's actually doing with it exactly,
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: but they released the thing and I don't know what he's going to do,
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: if they're going to do any live shows or not.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I know it happened because they both happened to be in Prague.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Great.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, hey, Jamie,
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: I see you're doing,
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: you know, you do sporadic shows with the Black and Blue lineup and things.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: How is the, I guess, the interest in Black and Blue?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, because, you know, as a lot of fans of this show...
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of the bands are still out there doing it.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: they may not be doing it at a full scale,
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: full tour or anything,
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: but they do the weekend fly-in dates like Dokken does that a lot and a lot
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: of other bands like that.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: So how good is the interest in Black and Blue and the opportunity to get out and play?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we do have a good booking agency, Big Time Entertainment with Sullivan Babe.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's great.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: We don't play a lot.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: We don't really, we're, we're,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not about getting in vans and going to clubs and stuff,
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: but we do play, you know, anything, a good offer that comes in.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: For instance, our next show is actually in about three weeks in Belgium.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing a festival in Belgium, which we don't ever, we've never even played mainland Europe.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that's pretty exciting.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: We've done England a couple of times, but, uh, We always do the cruises and that kind of thing.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: An odd little festival will come up and ask for us and we'll be there.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a decent thing.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're kind of unique because Some of the bands get oversaturated,
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: they just play the hell out of the, you know, they're playing all the time.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: We don't.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: So every now and then it's like, yeah, let's try Black & Blue.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: We've had these other guys 10 times, you know.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: So we still get a chance.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm shocked that in 2026, I'm still able to do it, to be honest with you.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I love it so much.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so we're still active.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're still in there.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, good for you because I'm glad to,
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: I catch a video or two now and again when you do one of your,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: shows and you still sound great up there on stage and,
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: your lineup sounds great, you know, playing the black and blue classics and things.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, just a tip of the hat to you.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you, because I'm getting old, but I can still sing.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just genetics that I'm able to do it.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm singing everything in the same key it was written in back in the 80s.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I've changed nothing.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: We don't use any damn backing tapes or any of that crap.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's real.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: If I can't sing it anymore, I won't do it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: But I still can do it.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: And We have the original members, Patrick Young on bass, Pete Holmes on drums, and me.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: We have Brandon Cook on guitar, who's been in the band for 13, 14 years now.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And a new guy named Mick Caldwell on the other side of the stage on guitar.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: So two new guitars,
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: but three original members,
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: pretty good for a band that's been around about 45 years.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no kidding.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Can you believe it's been 15 years since you put out Hell Yeah?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, I can't believe that.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's insane.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't that ridiculous?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Time just flies.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: I just got off the phone yesterday.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: I talked on the phone yesterday to Dieter Jerks.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: He called me.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: He wanted some help with something he wanted me to be involved with.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Dieter,
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: can you believe that when I recorded my first record with you, I was 23 years old.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm now 66.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, no, I don't believe that at all.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, but I've got you beat.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm 83.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just weird.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to see him after I get back from Belgium.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go and see him.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's having a kind of documentary made, so I'm going to be part of it.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, tell me,
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: just give me your thoughts on,
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: you know, the fact that you're going to have to travel to Belgium to do one show.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, are you planning on doing, you know, trying to book a couple of shows around that?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_03: Or are you just satisfied with flying across the globe, do one show and come back home?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're just flying and doing one show and they're paying us well.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I've got like three or four nights in a hotel so I can adjust.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's a long travel.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: But if they pay the right amount of money, I said, okay, let's do it.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: what's cool about it,
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: since I am a 70s guy, playing with us is the band Stars, which I love.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's two original members of the band still.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that's pretty cool.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Kony Hatch is on the bill.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it's going to be fun and Yeah, crazy of us, isn't it?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: All the way over there in the back.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: How long of a set?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: Is it an hour, 90 minutes?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: What is it?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing 90 minutes.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: So 18 hours of flight in one direction for 90 minutes of play.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, call us nuts.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's going to be a blast.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: European audiences never get to see us, so it's going to be something.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to be coming from all over this place.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's going to be fantastic.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why not?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, good for you.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, tell us a little bit about this CD,
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: about any of the songs that stand out for you in particular that you're pretty proud
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: of.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, I really do love Bombshell, the song.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: It just came out great.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: I was mowing my lawn and I started singing that and I even had the word Bombshell as
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: a title and I was singing it and I ran into my guitar and started working it out
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: and it just came out great.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: I like every song on the thing.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: The song that Tommy really instigated was Magnetic.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that's got a killer.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a lot.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's the one that's got the Beatle part in it.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: I love that song.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Tonight's the Night.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: I told Tommy, I go, it's called Tonight's the Night.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck Rod Stewart.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's Tonight's the Night.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: But he goes, it doesn't matter.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: We can do that.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: I go, that's right.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: We got to do it.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to write something that sounded kind of,
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: purposely,
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: I thought,
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: I want something that's kind of like raspberries, you know, go all the way.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's Tonight's the Night.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was the idea behind it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: All the songs came together.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love the song Bulletproof.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Tommy goes, what, are you listening to Ted Nugent when you wrote that?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's just kind of a rocking tune.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: The first one I wrote for the CD was called I Want to Fly.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's the last song on there.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it sounds like, but it started out as a joke.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: I was rhyming...
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was making up a funny song about poor John Denver flying off a cliff in
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: that cheap plane he had and killed him.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I was kind of making a joke song.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized, wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: This is a good idea.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I turned it into a real song.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing wrong with John Denver.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I like him.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: God bless him.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I thought it was like, God, what a thing.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: You get this cheap little airplane thing that you got,
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: and you flew that thing off a cliff, man, right into the ocean.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought, what a sad way to go.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I think it started out being called, I bought a shitty plane.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: So what's next, a Sonny Bono song or something?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hey, why not?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: That might turn into something good, too.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just start that one.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't have taken the ski trip.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: See, and Chris was telling us in the first hour of the show that there's just no way
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: to make a joke about death.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was just for me as I'm telling the story because I get a chuckle out of it.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: For the rest of us to hear it.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: I actually,
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: I recorded it on my phone and I played guitar and I actually played it for Tom
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: and he was laughing.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, oh my God, that turned into I Want to Fly.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I'm not a mean guy, so I don't mean anything.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: John Denver was great.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Jamie, let me ask you, man.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously,
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: we're kind of at the back end of what I've been calling the nostalgia era for
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: the last,
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'll say,
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: 15 years or so,
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: where we've had a lot of regained interest in the 80s era of the bands.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: And we've obviously had Rocklahoma and M3 and the Monsters of Rock crews and bunches
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: of different kind of gatherings happening.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Of that music,
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: it seems like we're sort of weaning out of that a little bit and seems like
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: the 90s is coming back.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me from your experience,
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: do you still see active fan interest or do you see it waning as well?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I know what you're saying.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: The 90s bands are,
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm friends with some guys in 90s bands,
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: you know, the guys in Lit, they'd love to, they want to go out and play.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: They want to, you know, They're trying to introduce some of these bands into these festivals.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: I can tell you, there's still such a strong love for these 80s music.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't even know why, but there just is.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: And as everybody gets older, it will start to diminish.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: But I still think there's plenty of...
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: These cruises are packed, man.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: I know that M3 has dwindled down a little bit.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to... Look, at a certain point, These 80s bands are going to fizzle out.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: They can't last forever.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: So something's going to have to change just by the nature of life.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: But there's still a lot of people love the 80s stuff still.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's very strong.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: I like a lot of 90s stuff.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's still got some legs.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: You've been on Monsters of Rock, yes?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Many times.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was on the first one.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: So with Monsters of Rock, what is that like for you?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: And this is, I don't necessarily mean, I know the answer.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's great.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's wonderful.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody's into it and all that.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean,
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: what is it like for you guys to kind of be trapped,
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: more or less, where,
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: for forever and a day,
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: you always had kind of the There's the stage and here's the backstage
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: and we only invite who we want backstage.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: But you get on a cruise like this,
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: you got everybody that has auto blast and wants it signed or whatever bugging you
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: when you're trying to get some shrimp at the shrimp bar or whatever.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is it fun or is it a little cumbersome?
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, what is that experience like?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I think that the people have an etiquette.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: When you're eating, there's an artist dining.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: If that you can get away,
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: but you can sometimes go,
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: you go to the other one where everybody's at
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: and everybody pretty much leaves you alone in that case.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're just walking across the ship, you're going to get stopped.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to pictures, you're going to sign stuff.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you stay in your cabin.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you go out, you got to know that that's going to happen.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't mind it.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're eating and stuff, people stay away from you.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: They really do.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: I saw at the buffet,
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Steve Harris and the buffet line and nobody was talking, nobody was bugging him.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, for God's sakes, but they just didn't bother.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: So they kind of know, leave these guys alone a little bit.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're just walking around the ship, you're going to get bombarded, you know?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's the way it is.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_03: Do you still get kind of a, I don't know, I don't want to use the word thrill, kind of a...
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: The fact that people still recognize you if you're just out
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: in public just doing just normal everyday stuff and somebody says,
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: hey, are you Jamie?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: come up and say hello to you or want to grab a photo or grab a,
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: you know, picture or get an autograph or something.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: Are you still amazed by that?
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when it happens in regular life when I'm at the grocery store,
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: it's that's pretty weird because I go, how do you know who I am?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, black and blue, you know, I'm not Bon Jovi, but.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't happen that much.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm at a concert or something, it's much, much more.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't get that as much, you know.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: But it's because of my hair still, you know.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: They always go, that guy got to be somebody, you know.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have a local grocery store that I go to here in Upland, California.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I walk in, they go, hey, Whitesnake.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: They call me Whitesnake.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: I go, how's it going, everybody?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: They don't know that I'm in black and blue, but they think they just call me Whitesnake.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's David St. James here.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: All right, Jamie.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well,
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: is there anything else you want to tell the fans that we haven't touched on here
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: at all about,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: things upcoming,
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: what you're doing,
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_03: you know, plugging your website, products, all that kind of good stuff?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Essentially,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: go to ThayerStJames.com and you can buy whatever music Tommy and I are doing now,
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: have done, and will do in the future.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: ThayerStJames.com.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Black & Blue is still active, and I hope to see people out there when we do play.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: We don't play a lot.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: We do maybe six, ten shows a year in a good year.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: They don't play a lot.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: So if we do come anywhere near you,
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: for God's sakes,
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: drive the 50 to 100 miles to go see us because it won't happen again probably.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: But we're still out here, still alive, and I'm still having fun with it at 66 years old.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I still won't stop.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: Excellent.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, we,
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: we certainly appreciate you taking the time out to talk to us on the show
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: and you know, the, the invitation, the door is always open.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: You're welcome to come on anytime you have something to plug,
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: or if you just want to be third, Mike, come on, just sit in with us.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: And that's, and you told me that from the day I met you.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: And the invitation still stands.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, both of you guys, thank you so much for having me.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Keep doing what you're doing.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: We love what you do.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll be listening.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's only been 30 years, Jamie.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jesus.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: We might have this down by now.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pretty much.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are top notch.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here it is.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: This is the...
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: Thayer St. James release called Bombshell.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_03: Go over there to ThayerStJames.com and go pick it up.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's got seven great tunes on there.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm going to let Jamie pick a tune to take us out of this interview.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: So what should we play?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: Bulletproof.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_03: So we're going to play some Bulletproof from the Thayer St. James release.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: Go pick it up today.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Go visit the website and go buy something for Christ's sake.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: Stop being a cheap ass.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: All right, Jamie, great talking to you again.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: So here it is.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's Thayer St. James with Bulletproof exclusively here.
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