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Weaving Heritage into Fiction with Roni Robbins: The Art of Storytelling and Networking for the Aspiring Novelist · Ready Set Collaborate with Wanda Pearson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Ready Set Collaborate podcast with Rhonda Pearson, where we will dive deep into the world of networking, collaboration and partnership, unlocking the secrets to a successful team working within innovation.
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  Speaker 1: Set Collaborate podcast on a journey towards achieving your goals with host Wanda Pearson.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, welcome to Ready Set.
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  Speaker 3: Collaborate with Wanda Pearson and this series is about the art of book collaboration.
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  Speaker 3: I am so happy to have my guest, ronnie Robbins, and I tell you I'm going to read her bio because she has a lot of stuff to tell us about.
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  Speaker 3: But first I'm going to actually talk about my sponsor.
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  Speaker 3: So sponsor is actually WD Pearson Associates, which actually helps businesses get set up the right way, but also with our services, with Legal Shield, we help you get legally protected, successfully, financially, and we want to make sure that you are actually have your legal information altogether.
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  Speaker 3: So connect with me, wanda Pearson, with WD Pearson associates, and we can actually have a free consultation.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: But also I want to tell, make sure you subscribe, follow and like this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So, ron, ronnie Robbins, I'm so excited to have you on my podcast.
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  Speaker 3: When my husband told me that you wanted to do this, it was just like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: I said this is great.
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  Speaker 3: I am so happy to have you on my show to do this.
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  Speaker 3: I want to tell a little bit about you, robin, but welcome, ronnie.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you and, by the way, add that I'm a LegalShield loyal and very happy LegalShield customer, as my family is.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that support that you have for us.
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  Speaker 3: We've been doing it for 25 years.
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  Speaker 3: So this is something that I did when I retired, but this is our business, and now I created my own business and I created my own podcast.
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  Speaker 3: But thank you, ronnie, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you a little bit about Ronnie.
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  Speaker 3: Ronnie is just look, she's a celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: So Hands of Gold capitalizes on Ronnie Roberts.
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  Speaker 3: Nearly four decades as a published writer, a staff reporter for daily and weekly newspaper, a freelancer for national, regional and online publications and, more recently, associate editor of Medscape slash, webmd, after serving in the same role as the Atlanta Jewish Times.
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  Speaker 3: Robert's articles have appeared in the Huffington Post, forbes, the New York Daily News, ad Week, webwd and Helpline.
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  Speaker 3: She was a staff writer for Florida Today, usa Today, the Birmingham News Adweek, webwd and Helpline.
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  Speaker 3: She was a staff writer for Florida Today, usa Today, the Birmingham News and Atlanta Business Chronicle, american City Business Journals.
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  Speaker 3: She also wrote for Mother Nature Network, daily Report, american Lawyer Media, the Forward from the Grapevine and Hadassassah magazines.
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  Speaker 3: In addition to major CEOs and politicians, she's interviewed such celebrities as Wolf Blitzer, andy Gibb, hank Aaron and Usher.
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  Speaker 3: I told you we had a celebrity over here, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: So Hands of Gold won the 2023 International Book Awards for Multicultural Fiction and the 2023 Global Book Awards Global Gold Medal for Biographical Survival.
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  Speaker 3: The novel was a finalist, earning a five-star rating in the 2023 Reader's Choice Book Awards Best Adult Book, and was a finalist in the 2022 American Fiction Awards Family Saga.
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  Speaker 3: It was a quarter finalist for the historical fiction in the Amazon Breakthrough Novel Award Contest.
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  Speaker 3: In addition to the fiction awards, rob Robbins won three Simon Rockauer awards for Jewish journalism, including an investigative piece about Jewish seniors who feel out of touch in nursing homes.
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  Speaker 3: Hands of Gold begins and ends in a nursing home.
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  Speaker 3: Her other news writing awards come from the American Society and Business Publications editors, the State Bar of Georgia, the Alabama Associated Press and the South Carolina Press Conference.
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  Speaker 3: Hands of Gold was released in February 2022 by Amsterdam Publishers, the largest European producer of Holocaust memoir.
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  Speaker 3: Robert I'm saying Robert's here.
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  Speaker 3: Ronnie, thank you so much for being on my podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I truly appreciate it and this is great.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited to have you here, but also excited to hear a little bit more about your book that you see behind.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, it's Hands of Gold that's on Amazon and we're going to talk about that at the end, so they can see how we can get the book as well.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: So, ronnie, tell me a little bit about your something.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you some questions.
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  Speaker 2: You said so much about myself.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I have much left to say.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the biggest thing is that I use my journalism to create this book based on my grandfather's life.
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  Speaker 2: Now, journalism news writing is nonfiction, but this is fiction.
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  Speaker 2: But it's loosely based on the facts of my grandfather left cassette tapes of his life and his adventures in Europe and America and I use that to create the novels.
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  Speaker 2: So that was that may be what you didn't say in all of that that I am a award-winning author and an award-winning journalist and now I'm starting on my second book and just getting ideas for my second books.
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  Speaker 2: I may move from journalism completely into becoming an author because I spend a lot of time pitching my novel and that's maybe where my success is going to go.
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  Speaker 2: My future, my career is going to sorry, I hope success, but it's my passion.
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  Speaker 2: This seems to be my passion at this point in my life.
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  Speaker 3: That's where you go your passion write your book, be an author.
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  Speaker 3: So I am so excited.
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  Speaker 3: I was definitely looking forward to hearing that and you writing that book.
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  Speaker 3: So keep it, I'm gonna keep on to it.
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  Speaker 3: Keep in touch with you making sure you're doing it, ronnie.
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  Speaker 2: So please somebody be on my case about it.
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  Speaker 3: I will, I'm going to be your.
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  Speaker 3: What do you call it?
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  Speaker 2: Butt kicker yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good word for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it, so let me ask you a question here.
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  Speaker 3: So how important do you think networking is for collaboration and why?
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have gotten my publisher if it wasn't for networking of some sort.
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  Speaker 2: I am on a bunch of Facebook author groups and writers, readers groups.
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  Speaker 2: How I got my first publisher was they actually came through family but they wouldn't have known about my desire to find a publisher if I didn't put it out there.
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  Speaker 2: And really.
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  Speaker 2: So they found publishers and my cousin found a publisher and passed her publisher onto me and we can get into the story of how that didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: But that publisher didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: But the second one came from another cousin of my husband's side, also an author, who saw that people were saying that this certain publisher, that their books were published by this certain publisher and that's from an online Facebook readers Jewish readers group and I pitched them and they took the novel to the publishing stage.
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  Speaker 2: If that group didn't exist, if that kind of networking, if that kind of correspondence of some sort through online means didn't happen these are all of both of the publishers came from internet communication of some sort.
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  Speaker 2: So I do networking recently because I lost my job in October, downsized, so I do networking for that and I found that it's actually more successful for getting people interested in the book that tell me about you.
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  Speaker 2: I found through local networking and also to learn about different other opportunities I might pursue for the book in terms of where to sell the book or just getting people to know about the book in a different setting.
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  Speaker 2: So I do online and it's not as comfortable to do it in person.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get dressed up, you got to get out of your house, you got to have a message.
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  Speaker 2: Not so easy, but it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's how, it's the way of the world you can't do anything if you just sit in your in memory of my dad who passed away last week yeah, you can't.
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  Speaker 2: You won't meet anyone sitting in your apartment or your home yeah, so you gotta get out there and it may be uncomfortable, but absolutely sell anything by sitting in your house yeah, no, you're right, you're absolutely right, because that's how I actually COVID happened.
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  Speaker 3: When I was approached and I actually was doing network.
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  Speaker 3: I was doing networking, virtual networking Thank God for zoom, virtual networking and one of the young ladies who was one of my clients, she called me and she said Wanda, god told me to call you.
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  Speaker 3: I said, okay, what did he say?
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  Speaker 3: He said that he wanted me to be part of her book, collaboration.
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  Speaker 3: And that was actually the book that, the first time I ever started writing, because I thought I could never, I would never write a book, I'm not going to write a book.
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  Speaker 3: There was a chapter in that book, but it was actually called Audacity to Shine.
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  Speaker 3: And the same thing happened with me.
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  Speaker 3: I got another call from another young lady, a well-known speaker in California, and she asked me to be part of her collaboration book.
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  Speaker 3: That's that impact of one voice.
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  Speaker 3: So I got into that.
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  Speaker 3: But I said, okay, next time, just like you, running, I'm doing my own book and I did, and that's God's grace through the fire, from struggle to triumph.
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  Speaker 3: But I would have never been able to do that if I was not networking and meeting people, as you say, because that makes a difference then.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get this show on the road here and I'm going to ask you some questions about your Hands of Gold book that's behind you.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm going to ask you some questions about your Hands of Gold book that's behind you.
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  Speaker 3: So Hands of Gold examines the impact of immigration.
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  Speaker 3: Identity, prejudice, anti-semitism, yiddish Is it Yiddish?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure Yiddish.
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  Speaker 2: It's a language of my ancestors, of Jewish people in Europe.
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  Speaker 3: Remember I was saying it right, that's fine On Jewish families in the 20th century America.
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  Speaker 3: So let me ask you something.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, why do you think these issues still attract so much interest today?
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  Speaker 2: So I couldn't have predicted when I wrote this novel, because I started on this novel when I was raising my children some 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: They are young adults now.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't have imagined back then that what I wrote about in the book would still be relevant today.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote about it of what was going on then, but some of the issues, such as anti-Semitism, for sure, wars we know there's wars going on in Russia between Russia and Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: We know there's war going on in Israel and so there was war going on in my grandfather's generation and coincidentally it was also Russia who was fighting and there was lines of the lines were blurred between the countries and they became all Ukraine at some point.
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  Speaker 2: But they started out.
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  Speaker 2: My grandfather was Czechoslovakia, then it was Hungary and then Russia and Ukraine that all the borders were changing but Russia was fighting back then and I said that in the book.
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  Speaker 2: Russia seems to like to fight to cause troubles.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't have known that would exist.
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  Speaker 2: Anti-semitism, the hatred that exists in the world, even beyond, just against Jews, it's your people, it's my people, it's anyone who's different.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand hatred.
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  Speaker 2: I really just don't.
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  Speaker 2: But people hate.
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  Speaker 2: They hate anyone who's different.
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  Speaker 2: They hate anyone who seems to be getting power.
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  Speaker 2: They hate I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They seem to think that they're whoever is hating others feel superior in some way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm super.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm humble and that we're all created equal.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that's a religious thing and maybe it takes more religion to then that we would be dealing with what's going on in.
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  Speaker 3: Texas today.
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  Speaker 2: History doesn't seem to just be in a vacuum, it, the humanity, comes out.
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  Speaker 2: The people who are good people you will find them.
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  Speaker 2: You will find the heroes that emerge.
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  Speaker 2: You will find the people that risk their lives to save others.
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  Speaker 2: That also exists.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be all doom and gloom about the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I agree, and actually we all bleed the same blood, we all have red blood, so I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: So let me ask you something here.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you come up with the title Hands of Gold?
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  Speaker 2: So there's so many meanings behind that.
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  Speaker 2: Hands are our livelihood.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the book and I'm not sure if I hold it up if you'll be able to see it yes, you can.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see there are hands on the cover.
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  Speaker 2: These are hard working hands.
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  Speaker 2: These are a person who's got a dirt under their fingernails.
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  Speaker 2: This is grit.
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  Speaker 2: This is a person that doesn't have it great but will work to get that.
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  Speaker 2: If you look real close, you can see the weather on the fingers.
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  Speaker 2: This is a working man's hands.
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  Speaker 2: These are chapped.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody who has to go home and put on lotion.
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  Speaker 2: This is not an easy life and we have a good, but hands are our livelihood.
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  Speaker 2: I use my hands to write, to type.
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  Speaker 2: Hands are also a nurturing, a comforting right, so there's that in the book too.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother was nurturing her children, and that requires hands.
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  Speaker 2: Gold has so many meanings too.
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  Speaker 2: It's wealth, it's the lack of gold, it's in my book.
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  Speaker 2: The streets were supposed to be paved with gold.
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  Speaker 2: Those who came from different countries saw America as the land of opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: They actually called it the golden Medina, the golden land, or golden paradise.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they thought.
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  Speaker 2: Gold is also the golden medina, the golden land, or golden paradise.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they thought.
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  Speaker 2: Gold is also the golden years right.
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  Speaker 2: So my grandparents in the book, or the characters in the book, go through the golden years together, go are through it all together.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of meaning.
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  Speaker 2: This right here that I'm wearing is also a hand.
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  Speaker 2: It's called.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually a hand of gold that you see, but it's also a hands of god my grandmother gave me, but it's also a hand of God.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother gave me something similar to that, and so there's a part in the story that you'll have to read, but the readers are going to have to find out, because it's a hidden meaning.
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  Speaker 2: They have to find their own meaning for the hands of gold.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little misleading the book cover.
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  Speaker 2: Just I'll tell you that Because, as somebody who studied English literature, you need to have a little bit of mystery, can't just give it all away with the book cover.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're right, You're right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So how difficult was it to move from nonfiction, as a journalist, to fiction, as an author?
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  Speaker 2: Like you, I never intended to be an author.
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  Speaker 2: It fell into my lap.
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  Speaker 2: It started out with me writing a column about my mom giving me these cassette tapes and me running around town listening to them and then transcribing himself behind as a legacy to his progeny, and how people should record their family histories before it's too late, or even afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: Have the.
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  Speaker 2: So you'll have that, because I feel like that enriches your life to know where you came from.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the first step and and then I put it aside and continued to be a journalist and then I said what I more to say.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I knew it at the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to remember.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I knew it at the time that it was going to.
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  Speaker 2: There was so much more to say than what was in, just an overview of what I found from the tape.
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  Speaker 2: So I transcribed the tapes and and it took a long time to just massage it and move it all around.
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  Speaker 2: And again, I was nonfiction.
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  Speaker 2: I was a journalist, but I had the cassette tapes as the interview.
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  Speaker 2: And when I talk about genealogy, I talk about how important it is to start with the interview.
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  Speaker 2: You interview your family.
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  Speaker 2: You hopefully get them recorded Not on cassette tapes.
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  Speaker 2: Nowadays you can just use your phone or another recording device, video.
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  Speaker 2: And then I the hardest part is making up the dialogue, and with my second book I'm going to have the same trouble and you have to get in.
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  Speaker 2: You have.
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  Speaker 2: For me it may require just putting down all the facts first and then going, going back I did for the first book and figuring out what they might have said to each other, um, at that time.
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  Speaker 2: But that was that's my biggest.
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  Speaker 2: That was my biggest struggle with the whole thing was yeah what would they have said what did?
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  Speaker 2: what was their voice like?
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  Speaker 2: How did they speak?
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  Speaker 2: And my relatives have told me that I captured that.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea how I did that.
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  Speaker 2: I had to channel being a man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's good that you had the cassette tapes to help you.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I had that with my family, because a lot of things that's happening in our families we don't know what happened unless they tell us, and a lot of our families keep it as a secret, so we don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: I found out a lot when I did my book God's Grace through the Fire, from Struggle to Triumph that I've met.
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  Speaker 3: I pushed memories, bad memories, down, so I had to bring it back up.
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  Speaker 3: So it actually was good.
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  Speaker 3: So, listen, we're winding down here and I know, right, I told you it was going to be quick.
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  Speaker 3: I love what you're saying because now you can share this as your legacy to your children, to your grandchildren.
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  Speaker 3: This is something that actually you can say.
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  Speaker 3: This is what happened to our ancestors, our parents, and said I'm so sorry about your father, but he's definitely up in heaven and he's looking down on you and so proud of you, ronnie, that you're doing what you're doing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: So listen, tell us a little bit about how we can get your book and tell us how they can get in touch with you.
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  Speaker 2: It is on Amazon and all other places.
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  Speaker 2: You might be able to see some of that behind me, barnes, noble Books, a Million.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I may have to any other place where books are sold.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just say that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's in Target and Walmart.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It's in my local Barnes Noble.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be in some other Barnes and Noble starting soon.
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  Speaker 2: So it's in my library, maybe it'll be in other libraries.
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  Speaker 2: So that and RonnieRobbinscom.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You got to spell my name right, though, but it's R-O-N-I dot, r-o-b-i-n-s at yahoocom.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I've got four Facebooks a page from author page.
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  Speaker 2: They all should be either Ronnie Robbins or Ronnie K Robbins.
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  Speaker 2: K-a-y-n-e was my maiden name, so I can keep in touch with people who knew me before I became Ronnie Robbins.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got Instagram that one may be Hands of Gold Novel.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I've got Twitter If anyone even uses Twitter anymore.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: No, it's called X.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: It's called X.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me and I just want to.
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  Speaker 2: And, if anyone wants, if anyone reads the book, I hope that they will review it online and let me know what they think.
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  Speaker 2: And it has a lot to it.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: There's secrets, like you say, there's secrets that are not revealed.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: There's adventure, there's near-death experiences, there's hero emerging from a shooting.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of dimensions.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's family history, it's family saga, it's triumph over adversity.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot involved in this book and I hope to hear from the readers.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know what you think.
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  Speaker 3: Let other people know what you think.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say go on Google and just Google her name, and you're going to see all of this that comes up.
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  Speaker 2: Or Hands of Gold, or Hands of Gold.
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  Speaker 2: If you Google me, you might find all my articles that I've written.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, even that, even that, yeah, so this is great.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it and you gave me some education on this and I'm definitely going to get your book as well.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: But I appreciate you being on my podcast.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: What's going on with you?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Everything that's going on back then is now is rewrapping itself, so it is really great that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy that you had those cassettes, ronnie.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: That actually can tell you more of the history.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: But thank you so much for being on my Ready Set Collaborate show podcast, but please make sure you subscribe, follow and share.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: This is how we can get to get our podcasts out there more, and we are actually on all podcast platforms Spotify, podbean, apple or even on Audible.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was on Audible, so you can actually catch all of our episodes on those platforms.
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  Speaker 3: So, ronnie, once again, thank you so much for being on the podcast.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I truly appreciate you and I have learned a lot from you, so thank you.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So stay tuned for the next episode of Ready Set Collaborate with Wanda Pearson.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks again.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning into this episode of Ready Set Collaborate.
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