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LORNA SHORE: Will Ramos + Austin Archey on Extreme Metal Vocals, Songwriting & WILD Tour Stories · The Downbeat

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Hey guys, welcome back to the Downbeat podcast.
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My guests this week are Will Ramos and Austin Archie of
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symphonic deathcore band Lorna Shaw.
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Didn't really know what genre to put them in there because they
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are pretty genre spanning in terms of extreme metal.
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They've got a bit of everything in there, particularly on a new
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album. I feel the ever black festering
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within me. That is a handful to say.
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We talk about that album, obviously, we also talk about
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the various different types of vocal techniques needed to get
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Wheels. Absolutely insane sound.
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Drummers, we've got something for you as well.
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We talk about drums a bunch. We talk about the different
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types of blast beats and quite a lot of the episode we talk about
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Wheels, Suitcase, bike thing. You'll see what I mean about
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It's Will Ramos and Austin Archie of Lorna Shaw on the
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In, we're locked in. Are we locked in?
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Yeah, Lorna, Sure. What's up?
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Energy good so. So much just happened before we
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So number one was skin care. You were like, am I shining?
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What the fuck is going on? Wait, sorry.
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Yes. Will I?
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Will, we're in Lorna Shore Well. We're all friends here.
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Thanks for coming. Happy to be here bro thank.
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You. What was your You.
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You are so not shiny. I was worried.
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I started doing, you know, dudes, we don't, we don't like
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doing skin care shit. I do.
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I love well seeing this, 'cause you got a girlfriend,
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girlfriend's got to make sure that you know, you'd be looking
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good and shit. I didn't give a crap.
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My girlfriend's like dude, you look dry as hell.
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I'm like, that's how I like to look.
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I don't want to be all shining. I don't want to be all shining
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and shit. You know, when you take a photo,
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you're like, oh, that's such a good photo.
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Then you see your eyelids and your eyelids.
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You can see the fuck? It's like sunglass, like
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polarized sunglasses. You see the whole world against
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your eyelids. I fucking hate that.
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So that's why I asked. I was like, this is very.
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Important So what's the skin care routine?
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It's some some brand shiseido SHISEIDI said.
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Asian brand that apparently. Korean one.
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I think it is orange Jeopardy. I bought it in Japan.
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They know that. Should be fair are.
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You finding it's working well. I don't know, I feel like I
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always look like this. I think you look great, your
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skin looks. Thank you for look.
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Give me that shit. My girlfriend gave you a
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compliment when you came in. I was a little bit like, that's
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a bit much. Thank.
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You just met. Him just met him OK, no, I've
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got into skin care partly because of and I've changed the
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lighting you're the first guests with the new lighting.
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Hopefully everyone is going to stop complaining that I look, I
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think people what what they did is they just witnessed me over
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the last five years. Just get older and they'll watch
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like an episode from five years ago and then they watch a new
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one and they're like, Craig looks really unwell.
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That's what the comments are. I'm just getting old.
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How could you say this? So now I'm in the skin care
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game. I got I got prescribed one
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Instagram's the best. I just put on my story.
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What do I do about my shitty skin?
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And some doctor was just like, I can prescribe you shit for it.
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I was like. No way I.
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Love drugs? Let's go give.
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Me that medicated shit. But this one like drives me out
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loads. Madison's laughing about it
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because she has to take me for the dry out now.
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It's called it's Tret annoying or something, I don't know, but
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it drives me out a lot. Like a fucking you don't call
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them flapjacks. I look like a Nature Valley bar.
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Oh yeah. After I've used it, I come
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trusting around. That's what a flapjack is.
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Is that a waffle? Yeah, I thought it was a waffle
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or a pancake. In the UKA flapjack is Do you
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like this Death Core podcast? A flapjack is oats and syrup
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like mushed together into a bar. That's a flapjack.
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Wow, that is not what I thought they were.
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Granola. Granola bar, Yeah, that's what
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we call. It yeah, but they're like soft.
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Yeah, like one of them Chewy's the Costco.
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That you guys call pancakes flapjacks.
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Yeah. Right.
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Oh, I think so. If you were to go to, what the
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hell is it called that, that fucking Waffle House.
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You go to Waffle House, you order a flapjack.
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They know what you're looking. For getting pancakes.
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You're gonna get pancakes? Yeah, not getting.
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You're gonna cake you up. Skin care Onion.
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Speaking of caked up, that was the other thing.
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When you gotta get back to you, you sat down and you said I'm
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pretty caked up. What's the deal?
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I'm caked up, you know, I got these big fucking.
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I got Puerto Rican cheeks. We got the new lights.
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Thank fucking God. You can't even tell they're
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fucking. They're they're big, bro.
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I got big ass Puerto Rican cheeks man.
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Where where are you from in the? US New Jersey from Jersey, yeah.
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Because I'm like that fucking accent, bro.
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It's like The Sopranos. We got an accent.
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Yeah. Are you?
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From Will's Will's from like northern Jersey, like further up
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than me, which is, Oh yeah, honestly where most of it was
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filmed, so. Yeah, normal voice.
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The Sopranos. Yeah.
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Will Will's more Italian than I'm Italian.
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I always tell them we're taking them.
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The Italians. He made a chicken Cutler once.
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As I said, we're taking my shop. I was like, it was pretty good.
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We're taking them, we're taking them.
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You could come over. Here, listen, I like Italian
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food. We're here for.
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It Are you full Puerto Rican? Full Puerto Rican 100%.
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Just the jersey is just in there.
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He does not speak Spanish though, no.
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No, no, no, no Spanish at all. No, I'm very American.
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It's great. I love it when I see a Puerto
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Rican together. They're like, Oh my God, Will,
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you're Puerto Rican. I'm like, yeah, they're like,
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and I'm like, I'm going to wait till they're done to tell them
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the bad news that I know it's be getting Spanish at all.
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See, Madison's from Ohio, so that's like normal American
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accent to me. Give us a speak.
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Give us a speech. What do you want me to say that
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was? Perfect, that's the same.
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But like. Ohio So what do the.
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As another American, what do these two sound like to you?
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I don't. Be careful.
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Like do you hear an accent or is it just me?
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But I also listen, I'm, I'm gonna be honest here, I live
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with a British man. I don't really necessarily like
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detect. Accents.
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Accents very ruined it. I mean, growing up, my
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grandmother, my mom's mom, my nanny, she became the only
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person that came from Bristol and I grew up with her.
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And then growing up UK, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And growing up, I. Got a little UK?
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I am, yeah. That's all my family over there.
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But growing up, I just thought that was normal.
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I thought everyone's grandma talked like that.
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So do I sound like your grandma because I'm from reading?
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Do you know do you know the accent areas of?
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I know the Manchester OK but Glasgow northern is crazy.
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I am the link between Bristol. So you're did you say it was
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your grandma? Yeah, Yeah, she probably sounds
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a little bit like a farmer like that.
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Oh yeah. OK, so that's Bristol and then
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you've got London, which is like what mate?
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How you doing right? This is 11 highway.
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We call it a motorway, right? It's the M4 big up the M4 and it
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goes from London all the way to Wales.
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London's here, Bristol's here, Reading is here, so I have
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exactly in between your. Hybrid.
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Your best of both worlds, geyser and your farmer.
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That's the reading accent. Nice.
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There's only one famous, famous reading accent in the world, and
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it's Ricky Gervais. Don't you guys have like 40 like
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different accents in the UK? Oh yeah, big time.
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I was talking to somebody about this.
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Thought it was just one. For a long time I thought, you
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know, I don't know anything about the UK.
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Yeah, we. You do good in the UK.
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Yeah, you do. I think so.
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Yeah. I mean, our first like little
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taste of like a bigger show was that UK tour we did together
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once in a time we played like O2 basement of Manchester.
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Yeah. And there was Moke, our bass
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player's first tour ever. And then good times.
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We did electric ballroom, Yeah. And that was like, this is this
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is going to be the biggest show we'll ever play.
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Headline Yeah. What did you do the last time
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you did London? I had no fucking.
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Idea. You know better than me.
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Don't even look at me. Don't look at me like that,
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Brixton. Right.
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That's. Yeah, that's the shore, That's
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the one. O2 Brixton.
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That's the one for me. We like debated doing it.
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It's. Got the balcony.
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It's it's like cut all the yeah. 5 1/2 thousand people.
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Yeah, it's a big fucking band. I think it was Brixton.
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I know it was O2. Is there another one or no?
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O2 there's, there's Wembley. OK.
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Yeah, no. Wembley is everything's O2 and
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then there's Alexandra Palace. I was just about to say we did
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Ali Pali, but that was with Parkway so it didn't really
11:06
count at the time. I wasn't there, so I don't care.
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He doesn't care about. Though is that when Mok played
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the yeah yeah yeah, Mok played a lot.
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Of his own habit, Mok did a gravity blaster and cursed to
11:15
die at alley pal. That alley pal.
11:17
It was so fucking. With an American flag band and
11:20
on. So he's good at the drums.
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He's very. Good.
11:22
He's alright, yeah. He's got B to B in the.
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Awful much credit, OK. He's got AB to B in.
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You like to play drums in your band.
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Well, I taught him how to do double S when we were just like
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shitheads and we were friends. Yeah, 'cause he just come play
11:34
drums and then I'd play faster than him.
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Yeah, we're not friends anymore. But he's not here and he didn't
11:38
come to the gym this morning. No, he's dead to me.
11:40
He's at Nudies right now, hanging out with.
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His. What's what's nudies about?
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Oh my God, he's a wonderful, kind place.
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On Broadway. Yeah, Nudies.
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So basically our merch guy Shiloh, when we were in the
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studio recording our new record, he came to visit and he was
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like, guys, we got to put on the Nudies live stream and we like
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ate dinner and watched it became ritual and watched the cover
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bands play on a live. Stream on YouTube Yeah, we've
12:02
been to and. Apparently like Randy from yeah,
12:05
Randy LaBeouf and like the Gates that all dudes and like all
12:08
these different band dudes all watch it and all talk in the
12:11
chat with each other. So we all just so sick.
12:14
Yeah, yeah. Under like discreet names.
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It is so funny to just watch our merge guy just like interacting
12:22
with like these people like oh, I love Lisa like.
12:25
Who the? Oh, yeah, Lisa just went through
12:27
a divorce. Yeah.
12:28
And Jerry, Yeah, he's. Watching the live stream while
12:31
talking about the people on it, he.
12:33
Got us on the live stream. He's telling us the lore behind
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all the the like. The regulars that aren't in
12:39
bands, they're normal people, yeah.
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He's like, oh, I love this band. It's that we started.
12:43
It became so ritual that we started to know the bands that
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we had, bands that we liked more than others.
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I went to I was in Nashville a couple weeks ago.
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We went to Nudies and Multi Ultra was playing Which?
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What was that? Stony T which?
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What was that? He's like that.
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Guy. Every song sounds.
13:01
The same because he sings the same song.
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So it's just it's cover bands and they.
13:05
Yeah. But nudies?
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3 songs. No but nudies only does like
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alternative and emo rock so it's fun.
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But they do like render. Like if you like we'll request
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and send the money to play like Pantera or knock loose and
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they'll do Counting worms on live stream.
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Is nudies, the little narrow one, and then there's an
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upstairs. The longest bar.
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In Nashville and there's an upstairs bit.
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Yeah, Yeah, we have been to Nudies.
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We went with Emma and Jeremy. Yeah, my favorite.
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Place. Cool.
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If you haven't, you're gonna go now.
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I went there with Ben Savage and Scott Carstairs last time.
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They're like, we never been here.
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I'm like, this is the best bar in Nashville.
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I think it's like Truman's is the best bar in Nashville.
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To be fair, I didn't even make it in the newbies that day.
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I don't remember when you guys went, but.
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I just went a couple weeks ago when I was doing some Trump
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stuff. Some if we just said Trump
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stuff. Trump stuff.
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I can do some Trump stuff. You know what's going on?
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Yeah, I had a room that you were drunk as fuck last night.
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No, not last night headlining New England.
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That and Hucklefest. Oh yeah, he was bad.
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Yeah, he was bad. I was like, that was a bad show.
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I get off. He looks at me.
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He's like, I don't even remember playing the show.
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I. Played great.
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Listen, I never get to that point, but I it was a long day.
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I was watching all my favorite bands and they were all kind of
14:14
like before 4:00 PM, all my friends.
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Yeah. And then there was like 5:00 to
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8:00 that I had free. So I took a nap.
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We both we both took a nice nap in the van.
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It was good. We were all right in the bus.
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The bus we still. Listen, our heart wants to go
14:30
back into the van, OK? We sleep across from each other.
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I went in my bunk. I see Will.
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He opens his bunk. He's like, what are you doing?
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I was like, I was like, we got to crush a nap right now.
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There's no way. But then I woke up and just
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drank like, and I didn't really eat much, but I had like 3
14:45
really fast Jager bombs. Yeah.
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Let it be known that your alarm went off for like 5 minutes
14:51
straight and I literally was. I just reached over and I was
14:55
just like you shut it. Off.
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Fuck this, that was you. I turn that shit off I.
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Woke up 20 minutes later all because of you.
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You're the reason question. But he didn't even need the
15:05
alarm. Got a question, what time was
15:06
the nap and what time was the alarm set for?
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And then what time was stage? It was like 7:00 that it was
15:12
going off. It was going off at 7:00.
15:13
We took a nap around 5:30 together.
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Yeah. And then not.
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Actually just across from one another, but we did lock eyes
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while we. Slept and that's.
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Gorgeous. And I think we were changeover
15:26
was like 830, like Cannibal Course was playing while we were
15:28
changing over, which was I think part of the reason why I got a
15:31
little. Bit buzzed.
15:32
Because we're watching Hammer Smash Face and every great song
15:36
I'm hitting the practice pad. We got great people.
15:38
Jake Smelly's there, everyone. All the homies are there.
15:40
Don't let him confuse you. He gets a little.
15:43
No, no, a lot that was that was rare.
15:45
That was rare form that. Was the levels of it.
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Did you play badly? In my head, I think I've the
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showmanship was on. Yeah, because you got a. 12 out
15:54
of 10. Fuck yeah, the Tommy Lee effect.
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Everything that was not a a Europe blast beat, you know?
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Yeah, was perfect. Madison knows what a Euro blast
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is now. Yeah.
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Oh, come on. Let's do all.
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That's the Madison Blast beat test I taught her the other day.
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Come on, you've got to do it now.
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I cannot. Can you?
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Can you remember any of them? If I say that names, can you
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remember what the different? Oh no, let's do this.
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I don't even know what it is. Hammer blast.
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Come on, think I was. I was tapping on your legs.
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We just made love. It was so.
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Romantic gotta teach you all the blast beats.
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Come on, Hammer blast. I I feel like that sounds like
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a. Hammer Blast is all together.
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That that's just terrible monkey style.
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Yes, you cannibal. Corpse.
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Cannibal Corpse. Remember that?
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Remember I told you, Cannibal Corpse?
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Who's beating the shit? You got bomb blast.
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I'll say the level of the bomb blast.
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Bomb Blast, which is a hammer bomb blast.
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Wait, do you know what this one is?
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Hell no. He should.
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It's all we do. It's all we do.
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It's this, but with double on the feet.
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Yeah. That sounds, yeah.
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Yeah, that's my bag. Never been out of digging so
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the. Are faster than the hands.
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Feet are double. Double the hands, yes, and then
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you've got the euro blast. I don't know what that one is.
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I've heard that one 1000 times. You look like you might.
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They all look the same. You mean you?
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You look like you might know what the Euro blast is?
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I taught this motherfucker painstakingly, and then I tested
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her and she got them, and then she hit the bong.
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Reset. The Euro blast is alternating
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hands, single stroke row, and the feet play half as fast as a
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reverse bomb blast. That's the hard one.
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If you're a little bit there, that's the hard one to lock in.
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That's the only one I can do. I can do that.
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I can fucking do that all day. I can't do a bomb blast.
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I'm the complete opposite if you put us together.
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Unstop. We're gonna fuse you guys.
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We'd. Be in dark funeral.
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You could do the feet and I'll do the hands.
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Exactly. I can't.
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Even. Speaking of like, this isn't
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even on my questions. Haven't even looked at my
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questions because I'm. Just I don't even know there.
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Were questions. They're not really.
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This whole thing is like, I fucking hate press.
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Tell you hate it. But like, I love bands and
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talking to people in bands and talking about music, so I wanted
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to make press. It doesn't feel like press to
18:08
you. So you, you don't feel like
18:10
you're at a festival, do you? It doesn't feel like so the new
18:12
album, it is new. New but old.
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How do you feel about the breakdown?
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Very. Heavy when you make the pig
18:20
noise anyway. But while we're on this, we're
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on the subject of like, you know, the different types of
18:25
blast piece and their names. I want to know from someone who
18:29
is a pro metal singer. You are pro.
18:34
You are, thank you, arguably the GOAT.
18:37
I'm glad you think so. I mean, thank you, many people
18:40
do, but I want to know because some of these are in it to me.
18:44
What do you call? I want to know what you call the
18:48
different types of your vocals or metal vocals in general.
18:52
Yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? Dude I don't even know.
18:56
It gets to the point where like, I feel like I'm just making
18:58
sounds that I don't even know what, OK, if anybody's done it.
19:03
So I'm just like, that's just. Take out the will stuff because
19:07
you do stuff that a lot is like I haven't heard before, but like
19:11
your main one, your screaming voice, What what would you refer
19:14
to that as the me? Come on.
19:17
I never thought about it like. That because we never gave them
19:21
to be fair. To be fair, I have AI was going
19:24
down like just my archive of stuff with Will and there was
19:28
like a video of me and him hanging out before he was in the
19:30
band. I was going to his house to see
19:32
him do like our songs before we went on tour and he was doing
19:35
like a vocal cover of like an old song.
19:38
And he was like, oh, you like that?
19:40
He like did a scream. I was like, yo, that was
19:42
awesome. And he's like, oh, that's the
19:43
beef. And he's like, you want a little
19:45
And then and then he'd be like, you want a little cheese and
19:48
then that's a high over the low. So the beef.
19:50
And the cheese you get. A double beef and the double
19:52
beef and cheese. Yeah, I was kidding.
19:55
OK. So we got the double beef we
19:57
got. The cheese, the beef is the low.
19:59
Single beef, single cheese. Yeah.
20:01
Patty. You're gonna have to demonstrate
20:03
now. Oh dear.
20:05
I'm not gonna make it. But like, so.
20:07
OK, so the beef is the low. So at the beef.
20:13
Is a double beef like the really low?
20:15
No, that's like if you just layer 2 lows on top of you like
20:18
to breakdown time. We got a layer some.
20:19
Low cheese is a high. Cheese so high and obviously
20:26
there's the goblins, which has nothing to do with a meat cheese
20:29
Patty or sloppy Joe kind of fucking.
20:31
It's just a freaking whatever people call it that.
20:33
So that's. Just might be the pickle.
20:34
If we're making this, we could do it could be.
20:36
The pickle. Yeah.
20:37
Pickle vocals. OK, that's pretty cool.
20:41
Because I was, you know, I was getting at like when people call
20:45
it Fry screaming and all that shit.
20:47
Well, that is technique that that's the thing.
20:50
Yeah. I can you differentiate which
20:52
one that is? What is the fry is that?
20:54
So I would so a fry scream and a false chord scream.
20:58
This was the question I fucking wanted.
21:00
I got beef and teeth because. We all wanted to get all
21:03
scientific. And it's shit.
21:05
We got scientific about blast beats.
21:06
I want you to feel included. So I would consider a false
21:09
chord scream. It usually uses more beef which
21:13
is why we called it the beef because it has it.
21:16
It reverberates more in your where your vocal cords are.
21:19
It's literally like it feels like you're putting more of your
21:23
body into it. That's the, if I were to
21:25
describe it to somebody who has no idea about vocals, it's just
21:28
like that's the difference between that and a fry, because
21:30
a fry is very light. It's not if you push.
21:34
And there's a reason why people can do highs but they can't or
21:36
they can't do fries, but they can't do lows or whatever.
21:38
Fucking false chords. They can't do false chords, they
21:40
can't do fries. It's because there's you'll do a
21:43
fry, it's very light. It's that's why a lot of people
21:46
can do fry screams and sing at the same time, because they're
21:49
very light on The Voice. You're not pushing really
21:51
fucking hard because the harder you push, usually the more
21:53
damage you start doing to your normal vocal chords.
21:56
So when you're trying to sing it, they don't come out the
21:57
same. That being said, when you when
22:00
that's the only thing that you know.
22:02
And now it's like, all right now do a, a false chord scream and
22:05
you're trying to make your fries lower and lower.
22:07
Then you hit this wall and you're just like, I don't know
22:09
why it's not going lower than this.
22:11
And the more that you try to go lower, the more it starts
22:13
hurting your voice in the long run.
22:15
And it's because you're putting yourself in this little box
22:18
where you're like, I'm going to keep trying to do this to get
22:21
down here. And it's like, no, you got to
22:23
change your toolbox. You got to go get a different
22:25
toolbox, pull out from your tools.
22:27
Be like, all right, now we're going to use the ease instead
22:29
and then involve in the other side of things.
22:31
Most people don't know how to do fries and they only know how to
22:34
do false court, which is why when you hear like a lot of
22:36
death metal, a lot of death core, it's a lot of lows and
22:39
girthy stuff like that. And it's all because they don't
22:43
know, they're so used to just pushing so hard that they don't
22:47
know how to dial it back. And rather than pushing hard,
22:50
get this, get a different frequency sound without pushing
22:54
as hard. Because this is the craziest
22:56
thing. And I learned this one.
22:57
OK, so I did a Melissa Cross thing with with Moke long time
23:01
ago because I wanted to get him to start doing more vocals.
23:05
I was like, dude, I want you to do vocals on stage.
23:07
I'm not teaching you. Let's just have you her teach
23:09
you or some shit. She's the guy.
23:11
She's great. And we got to this point where
23:13
she's like teaching fry screams. And it's actually insane that
23:17
like fry screams hit. They're so much quieter, but it
23:20
hits this frequency in your voice that pierces through the
23:24
mix. So there's times where I'm doing
23:26
lows. She's like, all right, you do
23:27
your low and I'm going to do a high at the same time.
23:29
My low is considerably louder than her high.
23:33
But when you listen to it on the thing, you hear it like like the
23:35
same exact thing is it just cuts straight through.
23:38
And that's people doing lows are like, alright, well, I'm going
23:40
to try doing these eyes and I'm pushing really fucking hard and
23:42
I'm not getting it's like, you don't need to do that.
23:44
Dial it back, Find out where that smooth spot is and then
23:48
just focus there. And that's how you find where
23:50
that frequency is. It doesn't have to be the
23:52
loudest thing ever because it's going to cut through one way or
23:55
another. How does they how do they mix
23:57
that in front of house? Do you have to have two separate
23:59
sayings or if you've you've just got it to the point where both
24:02
of those are like the same volume?
24:03
They're the same for me. At this point I'm just dialed
24:05
in. He just fucking locked in bro I.
24:07
Mean we got that distresser, baby.
24:09
We just stressed the fucking shit out of it.
24:11
Compressed. I That's the most like vocal
24:15
voodoo I've ever heard, will explain and I.
24:17
Wonder I. Was like, I don't know.
24:19
I mean, nobody's talking. To bro I can go.
24:21
That is the tip of the iceberg. Bro I I go full Tylenol on this
24:26
shit. No, really, I'm telling you.
24:28
Yeah, that's what I wanted. And I knew it lived in you.
24:30
I've seen your vocal covers. I've seen.
24:32
He plays done to me. He just.
24:34
I don't know, because I just see like been singing growl and I'm
24:37
like, no, there's something different here and you've just
24:39
educated me. There you go, everyone in this
24:41
room. There's the beef and the cheese.
24:43
Beef and the cheese you can't. Make the cheese with beef.
24:46
You need to get another type of condiment to create the cheese
24:50
guess. Why?
24:51
It ain't going to sound as good. OK, I've got one one last sort
24:54
of bullshit thing that I want to talk about.
24:57
Just real quick. Saw a video today of you riding
25:02
a suitcase. That's so fucking crazy dude,
25:06
how did you find that? Who sent that to you It?
25:08
Doesn't matter. Austin, are you fucking serious?
25:10
Don't you look away right now? You better look right over you.
25:13
Son of a bitch. What's the deal with the
25:17
suitcase? I'm gonna fucking kill you.
25:20
What's the deal with the suitcase?
25:21
First of all, it's called a Moto Compacto.
25:24
OK, sorry. It's fucking incredible.
25:27
It's fucking awesome. For anyone that doesn't know,
25:29
I'm going to put the video up. OK so I saw a video today and it
25:36
looks like it's a suitcase that turns into a scooter, right?
25:41
It's a bike. I saw a video on is it is that?
25:45
Not a scooter, it's a bike. Is it electric?
25:47
It's an electric bike, yeah. And it folds up into a box.
25:51
All right. So yeah, give me.
25:52
I'm going. To give you the full watch,
25:53
I'll. Tell you the video that I saw.
25:55
Let me give you the full washer shit real quick.
25:57
The full watch shit. Washer shit, What's that mean?
26:00
I don't know The whole thing, the whole 100, 20% right now, I
26:04
don't know. We'd just be saying shit
26:06
sometimes. We'd just be making shit up.
26:08
Long time ago, went to the track, love car stuff, go to the
26:11
track a lot. It's like my hobby.
26:13
It was one time you ride the track.
26:14
I saw all these people just fucking riding around.
26:17
If you would know anything about a race track, it is fucking
26:19
huge. And to get from one side to the
26:21
other sucks ass. Like a lot of ass.
26:24
You could do a lot of walking if you want.
26:26
I just got leg surgery not that long ago.
26:28
Daddy ain't fucking walking around like crazy.
26:30
So I've seen all these people riding around on these fucking
26:32
dope, super fucking, incredibly dope and nothing other than dope
26:38
electric bikes, yes. And I'm like, what the hell is
26:41
that? I kind of like that thing.
26:43
They're riding around, going around the track.
26:44
I was like, I need one of those things because they would be
26:46
really good for when we're on tour because especially now that
26:49
we're playing these big rooms, walking across the whole
26:52
freaking thing. Yeah, you gotta go to the drive
26:53
through and the only way. Okay, so.
26:56
Anyway, the video I saw. So so.
26:59
They're not gonna let you unless you're on a couple wheels.
27:02
I mean, we used to just walk through the drive through Once
27:04
Upon those were the. We still do that, I mean.
27:06
What do? You just do this at the
27:07
driveway, like, standing and like, can I have some food,
27:10
please? And they're like, yeah, go on
27:12
there like. What are you gonna do?
27:13
Like we, we can't afford a car, bro.
27:15
Just fucking let us go. We can't.
27:17
But now we can afford Moto Compact.
27:19
Though But now, yeah. So we got a Moto Honda Moto
27:22
Compact. Though Honda makes it, yeah, so.
27:24
We're gonna get sponsored by Honda one day.
27:27
Asking how much did it cost? It was about 800 bucks.
27:29
It's quite expensive, but what? See that's crazy, 'cause see, I
27:33
asked him the same question the moment I saw how much was that.
27:36
I don't wanna tell you. I don't wanna tell you.
27:37
I I don't like telling people what things cost and I was like
27:39
what was like 2 grand He's. Like 800 bucks by the way.
27:42
He's like 800 bucks. I'm like, that's nothing.
27:44
That's fine. Listen, I thought 800 bucks was
27:47
a lot for something like this, and I started telling people.
27:50
I started telling people and they started going.
27:51
That's not even that bad. So now I feel more comfortable
27:54
and now you're just fucking throw me in the gutter right
27:56
now. And one of the things that he
27:58
spends money on that 800 bucks is clean.
28:00
That's easy. Oh, so that's what it's about
28:03
now. Now it's about what I casually
28:04
spend money on. Casually spend money.
28:06
On you worked hard for that money, you do what you want, we
28:09
do. Something we work for, yeah.
28:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Playing a pinnacle tonight.
28:13
We're still up. We're gonna.
28:15
You're playing a pinnacle tonight.
28:16
I haven't even been because usually, no offense, the other
28:19
guests on this band, they're not that big.
28:21
Pinnacles fucking huge. It's massive.
28:24
It's a big fucking venue. And imagine it, you got a Moto
28:26
Compacto you're. Fucking it.
28:28
You are flying through that shit.
28:30
You are the coolest did. You ride it inside.
28:32
Backstage. Yeah, yeah.
28:34
What? Backstage.
28:35
I wear I ride it backstage. I ride it.
28:38
OK, so now we we gotta go to Taco Bell.
28:40
This is the video I saw. I'm gonna pop up on the screen.
28:43
We get out of fucking the show, there's only Wingstop BBQ, the
28:47
worst fucking wings ever. I mean, I mean, they're great
28:50
BBQ, Yeah. Could be better.
28:52
Will doesn't. Well, Will doesn't like saucy
28:54
wings. Will likes dry rubs.
28:56
Gotta be. Dry the wing stop dry rub
28:58
though. Because it's all you get, all
29:00
saucy. You look like a like a freaking
29:01
car accident. It's all over your fuck like you
29:03
just be eating. You can't.
29:04
Be you can't be speaking to someone or going out.
29:07
And after the show, do it. You don't wanna work for food.
29:09
I was in a bad mood 'cause I was like, yo, wing stop.
29:12
Hell yes. You smell the BBQ sauce in the
29:15
air and then I see there's bones and I just lost it.
29:18
Why you want to bone this? He he doesn't like I don't.
29:20
Want to have to work for it, but will.
29:22
That's a. That's a different problem.
29:23
For it, he likes the bones, but not the sauce.
29:26
Don't. So we were all down.
29:27
Bad last night. Garlic pump.
29:29
Why weren't you allowed to get what you want?
29:31
It was on wing stop. It was post show food.
29:34
Usually we just place like one order of one thing and everyone
29:37
gets the same thing, whether it's cheeseburger.
29:39
We do and. Trey, our assistant tour
29:44
manager, first of all, he's vegan.
29:46
He's never been to Wingstop. And he asked Moke, hey, what's
29:49
like a thing to order from Wingstop?
29:51
And he said bone in BBQ. For you, for everyone, you could
29:57
do the corn, OK? Needless to say, he's out of the
30:00
band. He.
30:01
Didn't turn up at the gym. He cooked his time, his time's
30:04
up. He didn't come up at the gym.
30:06
OK, so last night so. It's I ate like 4 wings.
30:09
I'm walking out. I'm seeing Austin.
30:11
Austin's looking all upset. He's like, I'm going to bed.
30:13
I'm like, are you sore 'cause I'm going to Taco Bell?
30:17
Keep in mind you could Uber to Taco Bell or you could walk 30
30:20
minutes to get there. And when you get out of a show,
30:22
nobody's Ubering, especially at one of the places that like the
30:24
pinnacle. Let's say you call an Uber.
30:26
Where that, where the hell is that guy going to pick you up?
30:28
You don't fucking know. Same thing.
30:29
If you get Uber, it's delivered to you.
30:31
You're like, oh, I'm, I'm here where?
30:33
Oh, I don't know, in this massive parking lot.
30:35
You're like, well, that doesn't help me at all.
30:37
So get the Moto Compacto, fucking suit that shit up real
30:41
quick. Fucking Uber Eats Taco Bell one
30:46
mile away. Get there dummy fast, obviously
30:49
because I. Saw the video.
30:50
I saw the video. I saw the video.
30:52
Yeah, you guys. Show up.
30:54
I see this lady. I'm like, Oh no, she's a learner
30:57
Shore fan. She's gonna see me on.
30:59
My on my fucking box. With a giant green windbreaker
31:03
that's wrinkled to shit with. The fuck?
31:05
Like he looks like a homeless person.
31:07
She's like, she's like, don't go in there.
31:09
Don't go in there. I'm like, what?
31:10
I just ordered food. I'm going in there.
31:11
And then as of walking up to the door, the dude locks it in front
31:13
of my face. I'm like, fuck.
31:15
And then the lady turned. She's like, Oh my God, that's
31:17
Will Ramos. And I'm like, oh shit, she
31:20
caught me with my fucking bike. The one that tried to get you to
31:23
not go in there, then she then she clocked it was years.
31:25
She fucking got me and then she gets the photo.
31:28
I'm like, sweet, that's it, nobody saw my shitty bike.
31:31
I'm going. I'm like, alright, I'm gonna go
31:33
wait. Here is it good cause a minute
31:35
ago you were hyping stupid. It looks crazy it.
31:38
Looks it looks wild. My girlfriend fucking hates it.
31:41
She's like, out of all the things you spend money on I
31:44
would have rather you bought another car than this fucking
31:46
piece. And I didn't even find that
31:48
video on my own. My fiance sent it to me right
31:51
before I got to the how. Did she find it?
31:53
She. Finds everything.
31:54
Kayla knows everything. OK, so it's closed, you get
31:57
clocked by her, then what happens?
31:59
She clocks me, I'm like, all right, got to go.
32:02
It's time. The guy got to get on this line.
32:04
It's the drive through. And if you know anything about
32:06
leaving a show, Taco Bell is a mile away.
32:09
Everybody is going to Taco Bell. You took a photo with her
32:12
though. Took a photo with her.
32:13
And so I was like, all right, I got to go wait on like, And then
32:16
I ride away on my little scooter, literally like 20 feet
32:19
because the car is right there. I'm like, fuck, I thought I was
32:23
gonna ride like, away. Yeah.
32:25
And she turned, I guess. She pulls out her phone and just
32:27
fucking bam, snipers. She snipes the shit out of me.
32:31
I had no idea. So you're in the drive through
32:33
in on my bike just like on the scooter at this point and she's.
32:38
It was incredible. Do you blame her though?
32:40
She's probably a huge fan of you.
32:42
That's like, it's like, it's the equivalent of me seeing like
32:44
James Hetfield on a fucking square.
32:48
Yeah, drive, drive it. But.
32:50
Is it dangerously convenient? Absolutely.
32:54
I mean. I mean, it's hilarious.
32:56
We were literally like walking away from New England Metal Fest
32:58
the other day and I met with my fiance and all of our friends,
33:01
and then you just hear this thing and then Will's just on
33:05
this thing going 10 miles an hour.
33:06
Just what does it sound like? It goes 16 miles.
33:08
An hour just so you. Know it's pretty fast is sick.
33:11
Do you drift on it? I wish I'd tried but it's a
33:14
front wheel drive. Yeah, real dear flock on it and.
33:17
Listen fell on it. Just fell on it.
33:19
Chance age. Basically you turn too hard on
33:22
this thing. Oh, you're down.
33:24
'Cause it had the where the feet go, it just like it sticks out a
33:27
little too far. You turn and it just kind of it
33:29
just. Fold up into a box.
33:31
Yes. And so that little, the body
33:33
that you're seeing, the whole thing folds up into that body
33:36
completely disappears. Throw it in the closet.
33:39
How you didn't even know it's a box?
33:41
You're like selling me on one of these, no?
33:43
I want one but. I told you, Hondo, I'm fucking
33:46
coming for you guys out there. I want this not forget what I'm
33:49
talking about. Madison, did you watch the
33:51
video? I did.
33:52
I think was. Even was it absolutely adorable?
33:55
Yeah, thoughts. What's the what's the ick
33:57
factor? Honestly, take take.
34:01
Don't, don't. Take rock star man out of it,
34:03
right? You just see a guy doing that
34:06
because you get leniency. Talent will buy you leniency in
34:10
the lame shit that you can do. Absolutely yes.
34:13
Take it out. Take that out of the equation.
34:16
What is wrong with #4? You lost it.
34:19
You've got problems. You're laughing.
34:20
She's laughing quite a lot. Which means.
34:22
I genuinely think that if I just saw some guy at Taco Bell
34:27
especially, I would it would get a pass.
34:30
I would think that was the funniest should have ever seen.
34:32
I would have. I would have loved that.
34:35
The worst part is she caught me at full speed leaving Taco 16.
34:39
Full you at 16. She saw me at 16.
34:42
I was, and it didn't even look like it was fast.
34:44
But I'm gonna tell you, when you're on that thing, you're
34:46
like, holy shit, I'm going at the speed of light right now.
34:49
I mean, I think if I have one of those, wait well, well, when?
34:52
What are you in? Honda, Are you gonna fly it to
34:55
Europe? No.
34:56
So I don't know if you could take the battery out, so instead
34:59
I'm just gonna order one and then leave it in Europe.
35:01
In Europe and you got the locker.
35:03
Because brain. In Europe I use those little
35:07
rental scooters every single. Day.
35:09
OK, so. I think I'd save money.
35:11
But here's the problem. OK, we went, we had this place.
35:13
I don't know if you ever use. It's like Go Audio Hamburg.
35:16
It's in fucking Germany. No, ours is in Hamburg is
35:19
probably it's a different. One well, where we're at over
35:21
there is the middle of fucking garbage land.
35:24
There's nothing there. I love the scooters.
35:26
And if and if you know me on tour, I am the first one to use
35:29
the scooters. I love fucking launching them,
35:31
going as fast as I can in the places that you should not be
35:33
doing it. Same.
35:34
Of course you already know. Yeah, give me that.
35:36
Yeah. Boom.
35:36
I'm a scoot guy. You know what I'm talking about.
35:38
We scoot around. You're in this place.
35:39
You look up where the the closest, like Lime scooter is
35:42
Nowhere. And then you finally you want to
35:45
get to the place where the Lime scooter is are that's where the
35:47
food is. So you have to walk like a mile
35:49
to get there. Get to the scooter to go and.
35:52
You can't take the scooter and then bring it back because as
35:54
soon as you get back you can't leave it there.
35:56
Yeah, but I'm going to raise you something.
35:58
What do you do with that? What's it called again?
36:01
Honda Motor Compacto you're available in your area now.
36:04
What do you do with the Honda Moto Compacto when you've got to
36:08
your destination? You know, you just rides.
36:12
Yeah, he he, he went to Sheetz and he rode it in the aisle, got
36:16
his food, drove it to the counter, paid for it.
36:18
Dude, I drove it to ramen. I went to a.
36:20
Ramen restaurant the other day, and I fucking rode in.
36:22
I didn't even get off. Like I was just like, where can
36:25
I sit? And she was just like, where do
36:26
you want? I was like, where can I leave my
36:28
bike? She's like right over here, Sir.
36:29
I'm like probably. Yeah, they probably thought you
36:31
were disabled. Well to be fair I did get leg
36:35
surgery recently so I can say that I am disabled, not on all
36:40
way but like in a temporary leg hurts kind of way.
36:44
So so does anyone ever call anyone, no one in the ramen
36:47
restaurant or sheets say like, what's that, everybody?
36:51
Every single person, all y'all out there that you're watching
36:54
this, you're like, that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
36:56
So what do you say? What are you saying to?
36:58
Them I said this is the dopest invention ever.
37:00
Well, this is like, excuse me, Sir, what is that?
37:02
You're in my restaurant. Yeah.
37:03
This is the dopest shit you ever.
37:04
Said literally. And they're like, dude, that is
37:06
true. How far does it go?
37:07
How fast does it go? How much was it literally?
37:10
I was in the mall 'cause that's the next best place to ride.
37:12
You're in the fucking mall. You're allowed to do this hell
37:15
because they think. You're also not even a weekend
37:17
to Tory. He's ridden this thing.
37:19
Through every single mall. I got my new iPhone.
37:23
We're not sponsored by Apple yet.
37:24
I got my new iPhone. So I'm riding through the
37:27
freaking mall. The way you got to do it.
37:29
OK, so you got to like kind of waddle it so it looks like
37:33
you're just kind of pushing yourself.
37:34
So everyone is like, oh, he's just pushing himself.
37:36
He's not riding it. I am 1000% not even touching the
37:39
ground. Like I am throttling that shit
37:42
straight through the freaking mall looking like the coolest
37:45
person ever. Anyway, so I'm doing this.
37:48
This dude sees me turning around the corner.
37:49
Nobody asked. I mean, nobody knew about this,
37:51
obviously. He was like Honda Moto Compacto.
37:54
No. I.
37:55
Swear, New York I. Looked at him.
37:57
I was like, fuck yeah bro, you know what I'm talking about
38:00
right now? It's like, that is the dopest
38:02
quit. That's dopest dude I've ever
38:04
seen. He gets.
38:05
It I need like updates on if you get into any like shenanigans
38:09
with it. I can't imagine.
38:10
I can't believe they're just letting you do it.
38:12
Every day is a new shenanigans with the Honda motor compactor
38:15
available in your area. Now it's.
38:16
Kind of like the you really want one.
38:19
I mean, I want one as well actually, this is my platform.
38:21
So, but like, it's kind of like the vehicular vape because it's
38:28
just come out right. So you're like vaping
38:30
everywhere. But I think whenever, when you
38:32
sell it like this, everyone's going to be getting them and
38:35
there's going to be those. Restrictions.
38:36
No cigarettes or E vapes. Or Honda motor.
38:40
Honda motor, you're gonna fuck it for everyone, but get your
38:44
get your fill while you can. Oh, I'm, I'm doing it.
38:47
I'm fucking, I'm writing this thing everywhere.
38:48
Literally they can't saw me. What else you they can't catch
38:51
me? What else you spending your
38:52
money on? He's mentioned it and your
38:54
girlfriend's mentioned it. Like of all the dumb shit you
38:56
spend your money on, what else you buying?
38:58
Cars. Yeah, he loves.
38:59
Plural. I have 5 cars.
39:01
Now I'm. I'm I never.
39:03
Literally look at. Him baby.
39:05
We're on Facebook Marketplace like yesterday and I'm like.
39:08
Damn dude, look at this. Fucking RX7 bro you can have
39:11
that shit. You can have a Toyota Corolla
39:14
80. 6 Are you? Are you just, are you full like
39:17
Japanese cars? Only because I like drifting and
39:20
Japanese cars are just like, I mean, not all of them obviously,
39:22
but a lot of them are very much in that, that wheelhouse,
39:25
especially the older ones, because the older cars in Japan
39:28
look so fucking sick. There's so many things that you
39:31
can do to them now. An old Nissan Skyline like.
39:34
I have a Skyline, so I have an R32.
39:37
I just fucking suited that thing up right before I left for a
39:40
tour. And then I drove it for like a
39:42
week and then threw it in storage because we had to go on
39:44
tour. And also, fun fact, Honda Moto
39:46
compactor available now in your area is from Japan.
39:49
And in Japan they have this car where apparently it's actually
39:52
part of the car. Oh.
39:54
You take it off. And it's a City car, so you park
39:56
it in the city and you're like, fuck, I need to get to where I'm
39:59
going. Is that the little square car?
40:01
Like the tiny little car? I'm pretty sure I've seen this.
40:05
It might. It's been a Honda motor compacto
40:07
before that's. Fucking crazy.
40:09
Like where? Did you keep these five cars
40:13
successful, boys? No, all right, so here's so Will
40:19
like I went to his house recently.
40:20
We were doing some. He's like, oh, I need a ride.
40:23
I don't have my car. My Honda motor compactor.
40:25
He's like, oh, I got this. There's a water problem in my
40:28
town. You got to drop me off at Wawa
40:30
so I can get some water. And I was like, all right, fine.
40:32
And then he's like, I could just go get my car at the storage
40:35
unit 'cause he keeps a lot of his stuff at a storage unit.
40:37
But apparently he has also a, a bicycle.
40:40
And in front of his house I'm like, why do you have this
40:42
bicycle? He's like, so I could ride my
40:44
bike to the storage, to the storage.
40:46
And I was like, and there's a, it's a major highway.
40:48
It is US 9 old bridge, like tons of traffic.
40:51
And I was like, so people see you every day riding this bike
40:55
somewhere. I was like, you're gonna get
40:57
clocked. Not anymore baby, 'cause now I
40:59
got the fucking Honda motor compacto, yo, you know I'm
41:01
riding in style. If I was driving down Route 9
41:04
and saw Will Ramos riding a motor, a bicycle I play, this
41:08
guy's got a DUI or something bad, Yeah.
41:11
And you know, I'm going in the most slonkiest where I got my
41:14
sweatpants on. I got my freaking I got my
41:17
slonky Crocs from Walmart. I'm like I'm lost though.
41:20
So you got 5 cars, but you're still driving a bicycle to the
41:23
shop. Well, you need to park the car
41:25
car somewhere. I live in a townhouse.
41:27
Yeah, where the fuck are you leaving your cars?
41:29
Well I got a a driveway that holds like 1 and 3/4 of a car OK
41:34
which is great for when I'm back.
41:35
On the street. So I got the the Audi and I got
41:38
the fuckity you got the RS6 about.
41:41
I had an RS3 in the UK. That's my daily driver.
41:43
That's my baby. I love that fucking thing.
41:45
But then you get a whole bunch of shitty old cars and you make
41:48
them dope, and that's where my mind is at right now.
41:50
Nice fucking love an RS6. Come on, baby.
41:53
I had an RS3 but they don't do this is really boring.
41:56
If no one's car people they don't do the.
42:00
I had an S3, then I had an RS3. They don't do the wagon over
42:05
here. You know the wagon.
42:06
RS3 like as in like. It's like because this is the
42:09
wagon. Because they make the six, yeah.
42:10
Because they make the six, but in the UK there's RS3 which is a
42:13
wagon back but it's like smaller, which is what I had and
42:16
the S3 and it was just fucking so.
42:19
To be fair, the only reason I even knew the Rs.
42:22
I mean I wasn't even trying to find the RS6.
42:23
We were in the UK Once Upon a time.
42:25
For all those who were not car people, I'm so sorry.
42:27
There was a Mercedes that was literally the RS6 Mercedes
42:32
version. It was blacked out they.
42:34
GLA. I don't know.
42:35
They don't sell it in the US and they removed the whole emblem,
42:37
so I had no idea what it was. It was a fully blacked out twin
42:41
turbo V8 wagon Mercedes. I was like but like a.
42:45
Small automobile or like a or it's a size.
42:49
It's a wagon, so it's a big boy. And I was like, I love this car.
42:51
Where is it? And you can't, you can't find it
42:53
in the US. GGLC, maybe 45 nice car people I
43:00
know. And then I came here and I was
43:01
like, I want my old car and they don't sell it here and then.
43:06
So I was like, I needed a car really, really quickly.
43:08
So I got bought, I got Q5. It's really boring.
43:10
I feel like a dad, but like I will.
43:12
Pay though dude, you got the web, you fly around real quick.
43:16
Yeah, I don't fly around real quick.
43:17
I fly around moderate. I mean, all you're going to do
43:19
is send traffic here. So what you drive in, everyone
43:21
says that Nashville traffic is not bad.
43:23
No, you don't think so. The UK is like our biggest Rd.
43:28
is 3 lanes the biggest roads in the corner maybe there's like 5.
43:32
Sorry it's not actually literally I'm fine when it's 5
43:35
lanes. Fuck you.
43:36
Our normal roads are two lanes and then a three lane highway
43:41
but here is like 4 lanes is like the fucking norm.
43:44
So traffic here from me is like nothing.
43:47
I have a 2020 Accord Honda. You know a car guy.
43:50
You know he's had. I tell him how many cars he had.
43:53
Though. Hey, it was the listen.
43:55
It's the first car I ever have a car play.
43:57
Got it right before the Gojira tour.
43:59
Before I look good. I'm also the type of person that
44:01
I will ride it till it's dead. I want new cars, I love new
44:06
cars. I live vicariously through Will
44:08
100%. How many cars I've had?
44:10
Probably I think we did the tally the other day.
44:12
We were talking about like 9 cars in my life because they all
44:14
just, I started off with the you know, you're in, you're in high
44:19
school selling weed with Honda. I had about four of those.
44:22
Then I had, you know, hand me down Durangos and Ford Escapes
44:26
and then crashed cars, blah, blah, blah blah.
44:29
Some of those things look pretty good.
44:31
I had a piece of shit Honda manual 200,000 mile thing
44:35
forever, didn't have AC and then.
44:37
My Audi was my first automatic car because we just all stick in
44:43
the UK. Oh, I drove stick my whole life
44:45
to this car and I don't know. That's crazy for America and the
44:47
drive stick are all your stick Dr. you drive.
44:50
Yeah, except for the the Audi, because the the new cars they
44:53
just don't make them stick in. Carlos, your Audi.
44:55
I'm really sorry guys. Forget off this in a minute.
44:56
It's red. It's red as hell.
44:58
It's red. He finds red with black details
45:01
all over the place. Did you find more less people
45:05
let you out at like when you're trying to get out of somewhere
45:08
in a red car? I had a red car once and I was
45:10
like, why does everyone hate me? And I narrowed it down to the
45:14
red being a red BMW. I don't know.
45:16
This is my first red car. I've always wanted to have a red
45:18
car. I've never had one, no.
45:19
Will loves red. That is his favorite.
45:21
Colour. It's a good colour.
45:23
Madison's favorite colour, I'd say.
45:25
Got a good taste? Took.
45:26
Black out of it, black and red. It's kind of.
45:28
That's what I'm saying, I'm like black, red, white, that's my 3
45:31
colours. I don't care which got to be
45:34
all. 3 bows baby. I feel the ever black festering.
45:39
What's the full title? 5th festering within me.
45:42
Yeah, you got it. Yeah, that's nailed it.
45:44
That's pretty good. It's pretty good.
45:46
Who's are you coming up with this?
45:48
Are you the lyricist? I'm the lyricist.
45:50
Lyricist. The word I put the words
45:52
together. Sometimes you put comes out all
45:53
right. You put the words together, then
45:55
that is the last line on Prisoner flesh.
46:01
Like nearly the last line right at the.
46:03
End the second to last, I believe.
46:05
You do a little gurgle, gurgle, and then yeah.
46:10
Yeah, did that vocals. Did that just stick out as like
46:13
a cool lyric and you stuck it in, or was it always gonna be
46:16
the title? I mean, we had like a bunch of
46:18
simple ideas and then it just like wasn't sticking and then.
46:22
What was the simple ideas? Like Oblivion, like we're trying
46:25
to look at like what could be a song title, like title track.
46:27
So it'd be like Oblivion Forevermore in darkness.
46:31
That's a variables record, but like that could have been cool
46:34
and it's a good record title. So nothing stuck out there.
46:36
So we had to like dive into the lyrics.
46:38
And then I think once the we'd established we wanted a painting
46:43
as the artwork, I was like, OK, then we can go more longer and a
46:47
poetic title. And then it's like, what is a
46:49
title that you could kind of see something in your brain as being
46:53
like art, you know? And we had a bunch laid out.
46:55
Some of them were even longer than that.
46:58
But that line has always been like since Will recorded because
47:00
it's Will's favorite vocal line on the record.
47:04
Like yeah, this like horse vocal thing that he was trying to
47:09
accomplish, the moose vocals. Shout out to Tyler Shelton.
47:12
So we, yeah, like, we just like went over there.
47:15
I was like, I, I love it, you know, like I'm already like
47:17
seeing art, let's just run it. So and the, the manager, he
47:20
hates when we talk about it, but he was like, this is too long,
47:24
you know, it's, and then they're like, oh, when you Google search
47:26
or this only comes up on Spotify, this many characters.
47:29
And I'm like, if they want to find the album, they'll find it.
47:31
I mean, yeah. And I wanted something unique
47:34
I'm. Pretty sure you could just put
47:35
festering in and you're going to come up pretty fucking early.
47:38
Or Lorna Shore new album to figure it out.
47:40
Yeah, what does he think Google is?
47:42
He's like 100. Years old, He's 62.
47:46
We love. 300 years old, 62 Elvis Presley's manager.
47:51
No, he wasn't. He wasn't.
47:52
He was? I asked.
47:53
That sounded like there was some fucking tea there.
47:55
There was. So I got a question on that
47:57
song. Actually, it sounds to me, I
48:02
don't know what it's about, but it sounds to me from the lyrics
48:08
like it's someone dealing with depression or a like a illness.
48:14
Am I right? Am I on the money?
48:16
Pretty close, pretty close, close.
48:18
Can you live in for me? The songs about dementia.
48:22
My family has a history of dementia.
48:24
And, you know, as I'm starting to get older, I'm starting to
48:27
see it appear more in certain people, which is actually crazy
48:30
as my, my, my, one of my family members literally was calling me
48:34
before we started this. And she's very much going
48:38
through it right now. And so the song is basically
48:41
just supposed to be about like, the feeling of like dementia
48:44
taking over you until you're at this point where like, you know,
48:47
you're very aware of who you are in the beginning.
48:49
And then as time goes on, you start to just lose pieces of
48:52
yourself until you're not exactly sure what you are or
48:55
what is anything anymore. And that was pretty much that we
49:01
kind of, I try to personify it as like dementia is this demon
49:05
that is kind of trying to chase you and you're just kind of
49:07
running from it. And I feel like you kind of get
49:09
that vibe from when you're even before the music kicks in.
49:12
Like I remember when I when I first heard like the
49:14
instrumental being put together and I hear that like really high
49:20
tension sound in the beginning. And I was just like immediately
49:23
made me think about like running through a forest from something,
49:27
but you're not exactly sure what it is that you're running from
49:30
it anyway because it's scaring the shit out of you.
49:33
So I was like, let's just kind of put all this together and try
49:35
making into a story that is like relatable to other people, but
49:38
also something that like I see in my life is because.
49:41
I read it as like depression. So I was like, specifically, I
49:46
actually read it like you suffering from depression and
49:51
sort of getting over it, but then always knowing it's going
49:54
to come for you. But then in that context, is
49:57
there anything in the lyrics there where you're like, fuck
49:59
this, this, this might get me with the dementia?
50:02
Well, I mean, that's also the reason that I put the song
50:04
together is because, I mean, I smoke a lot of weed.
50:07
That will do. It when I'm home and often I
50:10
find that I I have real life terrible memory and it's.
50:14
What's up Madison? Fucking brain dead idiot.
50:17
But like, even when there'll be times where I'm like not smoking
50:20
weed and I don't know if it's because of my ADHD, because I'm
50:22
paying attention to this and there's a whole thing going on
50:25
over here and then these guys are like, oh, remember that
50:27
timer? We did this.
50:28
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
50:29
Because I don't remember it the way they remember it.
50:31
I'm thinking about something else while they're doing some
50:33
other shit and I don't know if it's that or if it's just like I
50:35
just got bad memory. Sometimes it's that it's 100%
50:38
the week. But I don't smoke much when I'm
50:40
on tour. Yeah, but I try and.
50:43
I try and keep it easy you. Know it's still it's the weed
50:45
still lives on you. I start to see little things in
50:47
my family that like, I don't know, it's, you never know if
50:51
it's going to get you. And I think even when it's
50:53
starting to get you, you still don't know that it's getting
50:56
you. And I think that's the scariest
50:57
part about it. Can I suggest a?
50:59
I'm not even going to plug my own shit here, but can I suggest
51:02
a supplement to you? There's a amino acid called
51:05
Alpha GPC, which they give to people with Alzheimer's to help
51:12
with their memory recall. And it's like in studies shown
51:18
to be like pretty preventative in that kind of stuff.
51:22
And it's just like a fucking pill just taking.
51:25
Listen, you hook me up and find out.
51:26
Here we go. I might have better memory.
51:29
I mean I I. Might know when tour starts.
51:31
I have a in general, it's just like, because like that shit
51:35
scares me. Like it doesn't live in my
51:38
family, but just in general, like I again, I've done a lot of
51:42
fucking drugs and I sometimes catch my brain not being like
51:46
doing something crazy. I'm like, oh God, imagine,
51:49
Imagine if I just acted on that for I was like, oh, that must be
51:52
what dementia is. I'm like, oh, it's coming.
51:56
Do you find? It you never know do.
51:57
You find the impending, you know thought of that affecting how
52:02
you live your daily life. I do 100% and I think that's
52:06
just that's the reason why I wanted to make the song in the
52:08
1st place. Like I was like this is
52:09
something that is real to me. It's something that I feel this
52:14
whole album was supposed to just be based off of, like
52:17
experiences that Lorna Shore has gone through or I personally
52:20
have gone through before or after joining the band so.
52:24
Yeah, I'd say that like pain remains.
52:26
We were still like dipping our toes and like being in a band
52:28
together cuz it's like that was our first record record with
52:32
Will. Let's see what we could do.
52:35
And we had some like really great stuff obviously.
52:37
But this record, I think I learned a lot more about Will,
52:41
honestly. And then just like it was also
52:43
like strange to be like I will pain remains.
52:46
We were all down and out. We were having terrible time
52:48
personally, every which way. This one, we all came in very
52:53
differently. Like, I don't know, success,
52:55
whatever you want to call. But there was nothing to
52:57
complain about at the moment. But I think as time went on,
53:00
different things revealed themselves.
53:02
And I think more of like a reality of like, yeah, like, not
53:06
everything's perfect. Then you kind of got to like dig
53:07
deep for that. So like Glenwood about his,
53:11
about his dad, Prison of Flesh, the dementia stuff.
53:14
Like those are things I learned about Will through the music.
53:17
So to be like in the band and learn that about Will when I
53:20
spend every day with him, it's like, nice to catch that
53:23
vulnerability, you know? What's the Glenwood stuff?
53:25
Glenwood is about basically me and my relationship with my dad,
53:29
about how we grew up a lot together.
53:34
And I mean, obviously he's my fucking dad, but there he used
53:36
to, he's a doctor, so he used to work two to three hospitals and
53:40
which means that he wasn't home often.
53:42
So my mom very much raised the shit out of me.
53:44
She was the best. Love you mom, wherever you are.
53:45
If you're listening to this right now in New Jersey,
53:47
wherever the fuck. And she raised me very well, I
53:51
think. And you know, dad wasn't there.
53:54
We fought a lot, especially as I started going through like
53:57
middle school and then high school shit.
53:59
And I think it was because him and I are just like literally
54:01
the same person. And when you have somebody that
54:03
you just like 2 positives fighting each other, two
54:06
negatives fighting each other, it's you're just going to bounce
54:08
off of each other. And we've had many falling outs
54:10
over the years where I'm like, all right, I'm going to go live
54:12
my mom. But my mom didn't like the fact
54:14
that I was a heavy metal dude. My dad didn't give a shit that I
54:16
was a heavy metal dude so that I'd have a falling out with my
54:18
mom. She was like, I want you hanging
54:20
out with your friends. I'm like, those are the only
54:22
friends I got. So I'm.
54:23
Hanging out with them and his friends.
54:24
Literally, dude, if you saw me, I had my whole face like I had
54:29
my double fucking snake bites or my what is it called spider
54:32
bites on each side. I had my septum stretched, I had
54:35
my eyebrow pierced. I had all these piercings and
54:38
shit. My mom was like, I wanted you to
54:39
be my little Puerto Rican salsa boy.
54:42
I was like, shit, that fucking sucks cuz that ain't me, you
54:46
know? And so we used, I used to have
54:48
fallen out with my mom obviously.
54:49
And then in the end of the day, my mom took care of me very much
54:52
so. But we had one time me and my
54:54
dad had a huge falling out where he basically just like kicked me
54:57
out of the house and I never went back.
55:00
And it was throughout most of my 20s, you know, I would sometimes
55:04
text him or I would call him and he would never answer, never
55:08
respond. And it was like, it put a lot of
55:10
like anger I in like in me, you know what I mean?
55:13
And you're and this goes back to like my first bands, dude.
55:17
Like I was writing, I was in secrets Don't sleep.
55:19
The first music video we ever put out is literally about how
55:22
pissed off I was about my dad. And you could see it.
55:26
I'm just fucking yelling at this old dude, which rest in peace.
55:28
He's dead now as you're the fucking man now.
55:30
I love you so much. Wherever you are, you're.
55:31
The actor, the actor, that that's what you mean.
55:33
The dad you know. Dad's alive, Dad's alive, but
55:35
that guy who was the actor for him passed away unfortunately.
55:38
And but it, it goes back like so far.
55:42
And that's why. And so it was one day.
55:43
I'm actually, it's crazy that you're right now this totally
55:45
works out, you know, years going by.
55:47
It's crazy that we're here together talking about this.
55:54
I used to, I used to work in the city a lot.
55:55
My dad worked in the city, not answering a lot.
55:59
Eventually I just was like, I'm not going to see my dad anymore.
56:01
That's just kind of how it is. I'm going to give up.
56:03
It's not working out. Obviously, he doesn't want to be
56:05
a part of my life. I don't want to be a part of his
56:07
life. Fuck him.
56:08
And then, you know, years go by and then you watch all these
56:11
fucking crazy movies about people who just like make
56:14
regretful decisions and like, you know, things that you can't
56:18
fix anymore because people pass away.
56:21
People. My parents are old as fuck.
56:24
I love them. Love you guys.
56:25
How old? And there's mom is 69, dad is 70
56:29
something. So they're not like young
56:31
parents, you. Know what I mean?
56:32
It's good for 70 something. Yeah, he's got that Puerto.
56:34
Rican you guys got the same legs?
56:35
He got that. OK, you got the same leg.
56:38
You better cut it out right now. You made it.
56:40
Cut it every new. Come on, come on, back on track.
56:44
There was. So basically I, I, I was just
56:47
like thinking about all this stuff, like I'm happy that the
56:50
band is finally doing good and I'm loving that my mom is so
56:53
stoked to be there and shit, my dad has no idea what's going on.
56:57
I was going to say have you like you sounded like you had no
57:00
coming to like you know you, you spoke to him.
57:04
So basically I wanted to basically just like I wanted to
57:07
tell him, you know what I mean? Like it's there's a part of you
57:09
that no matter what, doesn't matter if you have a parent, you
57:11
hate them. A part of you is always going to
57:13
be like, shit, I wish I could to fix something like that, whether
57:16
they're there or they're not anymore.
57:18
And I had a moment where we just came off of tour.
57:22
I was like, I wasn't smoking weed because we were in Europe
57:25
and I was mad fucking confident and shit.
57:27
I was like, fuck, I'm so confident right now.
57:29
I'm like, I'm knock. Why?
57:30
Why continue to smoke weed if you're saying I wasn't fucking
57:34
weed? So I felt great and.
57:35
It felt fucking awesome. So I was like, shit.
57:37
And so a knock on his door. Oh, in.
57:41
Person in person and 'cause he wasn't answering the phone and
57:44
there was and there's a lot of weird shit like.
57:46
And he lived like where like me will live together, the town
57:49
that he was in like. Less than 3 miles.
57:51
It was, yeah, like 10 minutes. I was like, that's crazy.
57:54
Yeah, and but we never saw each other.
57:56
And he kind of just became like this weird hermit who stopped,
57:58
like talking to every single person in the family.
58:01
I'm like, I don't even know if this dude's alive.
58:03
Yeah, anymore. So I'm gonna go knock on his
58:04
door. And I knocked on his door and he
58:06
answered the, the fucka door. And it was like the weirdest.
58:08
I was just like, hey, you know, like he doesn't see me with all
58:13
these tattoos and like my pink hair and shit and he's like,
58:16
well, I was like, oh, what's going on?
58:19
I'm like, how you doing? And then you like, I came in, I
58:21
met his girlfriend. They made me food.
58:23
I ate the shit out of it. Incredible experience.
58:26
We kind of like, it was very awkward.
58:28
You could tell for sure because it was just like, I haven't seen
58:30
him in fucking. I don't even know how.
58:32
Many years roughly, do you think?
58:33
More than five years, yeah. More than that I would 5 to 10
58:36
years easily and I remember leaving and then Austin calls me
58:41
on the phone and I just start crying bro.
58:44
It was like holy shit. All of this emotion just like in
58:48
this one moment. Like I was like hiding it like
58:50
how crazy it was that I was even in this dude's house.
58:53
And then as soon as I sat in that car he like called me
58:55
immediately. I was just like, y'all just came
58:56
out of me and I was so happy, but like sad at the same time as
59:00
it's like, you know, so much time goes by.
59:02
You're watching your parents. You don't even realize when you
59:05
see your parent every single day.
59:06
You don't realize how old they're getting.
59:08
I I. Hate it so much because
59:11
obviously mine lived so far away.
59:12
Every time I see him I'm like, you are just getting old like.
59:15
You have one extra wrinkle that you did not have the last time
59:18
that I saw you. And so now imagine 5 to 10 years
59:20
goes by and I'm seeing this dude and I'm like, holy shit, you are
59:24
fucking old. And for me, that was just like,
59:27
it was really sad because it was a part of me was like, I don't
59:30
know why I let it go for as long as I did, you know, I think.
59:34
You're stubborn. Takes 2 to tango.
59:36
It does. You didn't pick up the phone.
59:37
But it takes one person to just be like, I don't care anymore,
59:41
you know? Like I'm going to force you to
59:44
see me in my face. And you still speak now?
59:46
So now we're friends it. Will.
59:48
Now we're now I'm friends with my dad now.
59:51
Glenwood video will like put together the whole thing and I
59:55
remember when we finished the record it was a song we felt all
59:58
really good about and then will just sent like a huge like will
1:00:01
love doing this. He'll send you an 8 minute voice
1:00:03
memo and then you have to. Listen to like an 8 minute
1:00:05
voice. He never texts you.
1:00:08
It's always voice memo. But Will like obviously like
1:00:11
contributes a lot to the band. But like on a creative side,
1:00:13
like, you know, I'll find video directors, I'll find album art
1:00:16
versus signs, you know, I'm usually like just finger on the
1:00:18
pulse, know a lot of different people.
1:00:19
But Will had like just such a great idea for the video and I
1:00:23
was like, hey, listen, like we just got done with the record.
1:00:25
This is definitely a song we want to do When the time comes,
1:00:27
We'll we'll make it happen. You have my word.
1:00:29
So we did a bunch of videos, you know, Oblivion, Prison of Flesh,
1:00:34
Craziness, and then it was like time to do Glenwood.
1:00:37
The Dylan from Versa Films did Oblivion, but I originally
1:00:41
reached out to him just to be a part of the Glenwood projects.
1:00:43
And that was the last video we did.
1:00:45
So then I was like, Hey, Dylan, here's Will, you guys figured
1:00:49
this out. I had I had like vacation in
1:00:51
Italy. I had like a bunch of things
1:00:52
that I was trying to do on my own.
1:00:54
So I was like, you guys handle all this.
1:00:55
And then Will and him just took care of the video.
1:00:58
But Will's father is in the video.
1:01:00
So at the end of the, if you haven't, if you haven't seen it,
1:01:03
So at the end of the video, you go through this whole story of
1:01:05
basically Will's life. And then at the end of the
1:01:08
video, it's Will walking up to the.
1:01:10
House and. Then.
1:01:11
It's actually the. Door and then my dad answers the
1:01:14
the door. And then there's a 2 to 2 1/2
1:01:17
minute like interview of them two talking to each other at the
1:01:20
end of the video. I think for me, it was like
1:01:22
something that I needed to do as a full 3 or 180, whatever you
1:01:26
want to fucking call it after just like the years of writing
1:01:29
shitty songs about teenage angst and, you know, early 20s angst.
1:01:34
And I was just like, this is just the perfect emotion to
1:01:38
write a song about. And the music video.
1:01:41
Dylan did such a great fucking job.
1:01:44
Worked really hard. I mean, it was tough to, like,
1:01:45
cast people that looked like young Will.
1:01:47
Yeah, you know, 'cause like, but they did a great job.
1:01:50
Or like even like Will's mom? Like.
1:01:52
Will's dad, the guy was, was bald.
1:01:53
They had to get a toupee on him and then the toupee lady started
1:01:56
throwing up. Then he had to go send him out
1:01:58
in New York City to get a toupee put on, bring him back.
1:02:00
The guy's never acted a day in his life.
1:02:02
He's got Will pushing him and screaming in the living room.
1:02:04
He's supposed to go home later to his wife.
1:02:06
Like, how was your video shooting?
1:02:07
You're acting gig. It's like, yeah, it was good.
1:02:10
She's got. Your accent that's great makes
1:02:12
every fucking story so funny to me.
1:02:15
Like it just like poorly from the.
1:02:17
Fucking you are. Ugly.
1:02:21
So they have like a fake fight, like I'm in the other room, just
1:02:23
like hanging. I was my brother's bachelor
1:02:25
party all weekend. So like usually I'm at the video
1:02:27
shoots, but Will was just like, this is the only weekend we
1:02:30
could do this. I was like, I'll come do my part
1:02:32
and I'll see a little bit of it. Fine.
1:02:34
But I'm just like sitting there and I just hear him in this fake
1:02:37
dad fighting and he will just like you.
1:02:39
You're always gobble up. And he's just like, what do you
1:02:41
have to say for himself? And he's like, you're ugly.
1:02:44
And then he's like, I'm like fucking.
1:02:47
I'm like, yeah, but when this dude said you're ugly?
1:02:50
Was you're ugly in this ugly but.
1:02:53
It's like, it's like they just need it for like slow motion
1:02:55
clips and the guy just had to say anything.
1:02:57
He could have said anything. He just how did you not?
1:02:58
Crack up. Oh.
1:02:59
We were losing it. The way.
1:03:02
In between takes I was just like.
1:03:03
That poor guy got berated, then the, then that.
1:03:06
Was the whole day of just him getting yelled?
1:03:08
At the whole day like every scene was his like the actress
1:03:11
playing his mom screaming at the guy in one room, then it's baby
1:03:14
will screaming out, then it's teen will will and then his
1:03:17
grown up will. This guy got yelled at for 9
1:03:19
hours that's just went shit. Yeah, that's probably why he
1:03:23
went ball. Do you think your dad's proud of
1:03:24
you? I think so.
1:03:26
He didn't know what the hell he was going.
1:03:27
I mean, he said it for sure, but it's taking a long time.
1:03:31
You know, it's I grew up being a a shit head and I, you know, you
1:03:35
look back at those things now and you're just like I.
1:03:38
Couldn't my back? My back.
1:03:39
Got into another direction. I'm glad that we didn't do that.
1:03:43
And from his perspective, he was probably like this kids going to
1:03:45
be bad fucking news and then the.
1:03:47
Music saved you? I guess so.
1:03:49
And honestly like with between Will and I I could not that like
1:03:52
no one expected much out of me in my life but like I was a shit
1:03:55
head kid. Like I got kicked out of school.
1:03:58
I was like always the problem child.
1:04:00
So I feel like when I actually like and I was like, I'm just
1:04:03
going to be in a band. I'm dropping out of school.
1:04:04
I'm going on tour with Lorna Shore at 18 years old.
1:04:07
Just stop going to school because I was like, we had a
1:04:09
weekend tour with I'm 31. Fuck, you've been going for so
1:04:13
long. I know my 18th birthday was my
1:04:15
first show ever with Lorna Shore.
1:04:18
I always bring you guys up as an example to people when they're
1:04:22
like, I mean, I'm in a band that's splitting up.
1:04:24
So not as an example to myself, but as an example to other
1:04:27
people. And they're like, should we just
1:04:29
split up? And I'm like, look it along the
1:04:31
shore, bro, you move, guys. Went for so fucking long.
1:04:36
Yeah. And then?
1:04:38
Respectfully, don't worry, we're breaking up after this tour.
1:04:41
Respect. You be a fucking idiot to do
1:04:43
that respectfully, then you get Will, and then it just goes
1:04:48
fucking crazy. And I mean honestly, Will was
1:04:51
just like. How did you find him?
1:04:52
Well, from my perspective, obviously, like me and Will, we
1:04:56
did a tour with his old band Awaken Providence Weekend Tour.
1:05:00
It was actually us. Shadow of intent?
1:05:02
No, In depths. And ties in Depths and Ties,
1:05:04
which was Ben Dorr from Shadow of Intense Old Man.
1:05:07
And it was us three playing game changer World in New Jersey,
1:05:09
somewhere in Connecticut. Just three shows, but I.
1:05:12
Remember what a crazy band? Yeah.
1:05:14
Bring it back, bring it back. But we, we did that weekend tour
1:05:20
and I just remember just like every day be like, dude, this
1:05:23
kid is nuts 'cause like I always seen Will around and like he's
1:05:27
unsuspecting, you know what I mean?
1:05:29
Like. I mean, he's not now he's on a
1:05:30
fucking square scooter driving. Around Oh yeah, he's.
1:05:32
Listen, he's gone through his head.
1:05:34
No, he's. Suspicious.
1:05:36
He's a suspicious. Guy, you see a guy on that, you
1:05:38
don't question him. You're like, that kid's a little
1:05:41
yeah. And then I'm like, there can't
1:05:42
be Will. I'm like, but that was that's.
1:05:43
Will his parents on the I. Was a pothead.
1:05:46
That guy on the bike parents they used to see that time.
1:05:49
Strange. Dude.
1:05:51
Like, obviously I smoked a lot of weed.
1:05:53
And then if you meet someone you're on tour who smokes a lot,
1:05:55
We just spent a lot of time together.
1:05:57
So after the tour, his band's practice space was in Staten
1:06:00
Island. And I lived in Edison, NJ, which
1:06:02
I just had to go over the bridge.
1:06:03
It's right there. It's maybe 10 minutes.
1:06:05
So they'd be there like 11 at night about that.
1:06:07
They'd be 11 at night and we'll be like, yo, I need weed.
1:06:10
And I'm like, and I've sold weed, so I'd be like, cool, I'll
1:06:12
come through. What are you buying?
1:06:13
Like I'll roll up. We'll chill for the night.
1:06:15
So we like we're cool for a bit, like I had his number, you know
1:06:18
what I mean? Just like at that point so and
1:06:20
then buy. Weed.
1:06:21
Yeah, got it. So we, I don't know, we didn't
1:06:24
speak for a long time, long time.
1:06:26
And then we lost our vocalist and then I'm just like, dude,
1:06:29
what are we going to do? Like who's around?
1:06:30
And we had a few people try out from like other places in the
1:06:34
world just because we had a little more attention.
1:06:35
But I was like every. Single person and their mother
1:06:39
tried out for the. That was why I didn't try out.
1:06:41
Anyone big? Yeah, I mean, yeah, we had
1:06:44
Dickie Allen. Dickie Allen tried out, which
1:06:45
was Infinite Annihilator, which I was like, Oh my God, you know,
1:06:48
thinking about the the Internet hype of that.
1:06:50
But then I was like, I don't know, like that guy's got this.
1:06:53
I want someone that like, I don't.
1:06:55
Want maybe I don't want lyrics about.
1:06:59
And he crushed the the tryout and it was like, cool, you know?
1:07:02
And then we had Adam Mercer, who actually ended up being in,
1:07:05
taking Will's place in. The wake in the wake of.
1:07:07
Province and he was a great vocalist.
1:07:09
He's actually joining us halfway through the tour because Ben has
1:07:11
to go home for something and he's a great person.
1:07:13
It's actually insane how this tour is put together.
1:07:15
It's just like the reunion tour of all these bands.
1:07:18
And people and that we haven't seen yeah, but then will was I
1:07:22
remember specifically. He also got Alex from fucking.
1:07:25
Alex tying from Black Tongue was supposed to just do the tour
1:07:28
because it was a Europe tour. So like, maybe we should find
1:07:30
someone in Europe so that can fill in because that'll just
1:07:33
make things easier because we're broke and we don't have flight
1:07:35
money. You don't know.
1:07:36
So then we're like, all right, let's just give Will a call.
1:07:39
I mean, Adam are talking and we're like, just sit on the
1:07:41
phone just like no one's talking.
1:07:43
And then honestly, Adam brought it up.
1:07:46
Adam was like, yo, what about Will Ramos?
1:07:48
And I was like, Ramos, Will Ramos, I'm sorry.
1:07:52
That we're always can you. At the time we said Will Ramos,
1:07:55
Will Ramos. You don't have to roll the R,
1:07:57
it's OK. Will Ramos.
1:07:58
Ramos, I used to say Ramos for the white people.
1:08:02
That's all you guys out. There.
1:08:03
Listen. Before I knew Will Ramos, I knew
1:08:05
Will Ramos. It's the same so about 30
1:08:08
seconds ago so. So we're like when?
1:08:10
I found out about his scooter. Now we're boys.
1:08:13
It's a bike, get your fast. It's an.
1:08:15
E bike basically it's a Honda motor pack that will be able now
1:08:19
in your area. But basically Adam mentioned his
1:08:22
name. I was like, I think I got the
1:08:23
dude's number. I was like looking on his social
1:08:25
media to see like what's been going on.
1:08:26
I was like, last thing he posted was like a last 10 seconds of
1:08:28
life cover two years ago. Like he's off the Internet.
1:08:32
The guys hasn't posted anything. So I'm like, I'll just he.
1:08:35
Was kind of weird when I was sending him that.
1:08:36
Cover, he knows. What he's up to.
1:08:38
He always wanted a deal. He always wanted a A for. 40.
1:08:42
I don't know, God damn it, I just called him out of the blue.
1:08:45
I was just like, or I might have texted first like Hey, could you
1:08:47
were in California? Yeah, I was on in California.
1:08:50
I was going to Nam and I was just like walking with my
1:08:52
luggage to like the hotel and I was just like, yo, we got the
1:08:56
store coming up. Like I don't know what you're
1:08:57
doing in life. Like if you have time to like be
1:08:59
in a band because it is a commitment.
1:09:00
I don't expect for you to just call anyone out of the blue and
1:09:03
they do want to be in a full time touring band drop your
1:09:04
entire life. And Will was just like, yeah,
1:09:08
I'll send you videos tomorrow. Like, yeah, I'll send you some
1:09:11
videos tomorrow. Like, yeah, we're just looking
1:09:12
for like 1 takes, you know, just like, just like super, super
1:09:15
simple. And I actually, we, we watch
1:09:18
those. I have one of them still in my
1:09:20
Dropbox of Will's first audition for the band.
1:09:23
That was when I was still good. What do you mean still good?
1:09:28
Fuck you. You like, I like.
1:09:30
I love they give him shit whatever because we have this
1:09:32
live video from House of Independence.
1:09:34
It's our first tour together ever and he just sounds.
1:09:38
Oh fuck dude, every. Time he's like, oh amazing in my
1:09:41
opinion. So the other night I tried to
1:09:43
trick him. I'm like watching live videos
1:09:44
he's like, dude, I sound so good don't ever say House of
1:09:47
Independence again. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:09:48
yeah. So then I put on the House of
1:09:49
Independence video and I'm watching him like, yeah, you
1:09:53
crushed it tonight. And he's like, that's not from
1:09:55
tonight. That's House Independence only.
1:09:57
Fuck, man. I was like this one.
1:09:59
I was trying to get him to agree with me.
1:10:01
This one fucking video. But at that time, I mean, it was
1:10:04
Will's first like tour. So in my mind there's just heard
1:10:07
things about he was hungry. Yeah.
1:10:10
It was like a 40 minute set. OK, You do more when you have 40
1:10:14
minutes versus an hour and a fucking half.
1:10:16
Yeah, I heard you're doing 90 or something tonight.
1:10:19
We. Do 90 every damn day on this
1:10:22
tour. 90 minutes in your band must be kind of fucking rough
1:10:25
for both of you. Oh.
1:10:27
They hate us, the band. The band as an entity hates us.
1:10:30
It's non, I mean there is interludes and stuff but it's
1:10:33
mostly like big long songs where it's like OK now the blast beat
1:10:37
section. Well, honestly, crazy vocal
1:10:39
section. We trade off.
1:10:40
Last night I was like, well, I ain't feeling too good.
1:10:42
He's like, listen, I feel great. I got this.
1:10:44
And then two nights ago he wasn't feeling that.
1:10:46
I was like, I got this. Don't.
1:10:48
Worry. What do you mean about carrying
1:10:49
the fun? Yeah, we'll, we'll trade it off.
1:10:51
They listen, I need you tonight, right?
1:10:53
Yeah, we. Need you to bring out that
1:10:55
energy bro. And that's when I started
1:10:57
drinking a bunch of Jager Barbies and I go on stage at New
1:10:59
England Metal Fest and fucking slave not embarrass myself
1:11:03
'cause it was awesome. Yeah, it's fucking sick.
1:11:05
It was great. How many did you drink before
1:11:07
you play? The problem was Mok.
1:11:08
Mok was pouring them, and it was dark.
1:11:10
So I had a mok drink before he. Was like, oh, it was dark, I
1:11:12
can't see what's in it so don't mind it.
1:11:14
And it was a half a cup of just Jaeger and he splashed the Red
1:11:18
Bull. So I had about two of those
1:11:20
just. Ruining his own bands like oh
1:11:21
this will fuck him up so. I literally looked up the next
1:11:23
day. I was like, I don't know how you
1:11:24
do this. And he's like, like do what?
1:11:26
I'm like, drink at all. This sucks.
1:11:28
I was, I woke up miserable, slept the whole day.
1:11:31
But then we played a great show. It happens every time.
1:11:33
It's a cycle. It's ritual.
1:11:34
So it's not a habit, you're not drinking.
1:11:36
No, no, no. I mean, we'll, we'll to shake
1:11:38
the nerves like not for nothing. Like it's tough to go up there,
1:11:42
especially right now for me where I'm like, I just got to
1:11:45
like kind of get into this mode. Have you got pre show anxiety
1:11:49
these days? Depends on the show.
1:11:51
I do if it's the beginning of tour, yeah, if it's like 4 or
1:11:55
five shows in like I'm pretty OK at this point.
1:11:58
It's I'm just more concerned that I'm going to fuck up a line
1:12:00
or some shit. And then sure enough, the first
1:12:02
couple, two or three shows, I've hooked up a line and I was like,
1:12:04
that fucking sucks. There could be.
1:12:05
I'm locked in. It's OK.
1:12:06
It could be one person that's at the show that makes me want to
1:12:09
faint, you know? It takes one person.
1:12:12
In what? Like who?
1:12:13
We played Sweden and Nil's Dominator from Dark Funeral was
1:12:16
that front. Of the house.
1:12:18
And I was like, yeah, he would love to meet you.
1:12:20
I'm like, I do not want to even know him.
1:12:21
Didn't even know who I am. I want him to go home.
1:12:23
He's like, I was like this. Is so fucking.
1:12:25
He's amazing. He's amazing.
1:12:27
And then what do you know, we play a set that I think is OK.
1:12:29
And he'd message me and goes, yeah, that was so awesome.
1:12:31
Thank you so much. You're great.
1:12:33
And I'm like, cool. The human condition.
1:12:34
We played the last. The one of the first time you
1:12:36
saw us play was at Rock for People.
1:12:39
Yeah, a couple summers ago. And I remember I was like, oh,
1:12:42
this is going to be a great show.
1:12:43
I feel great. You had a bad 10.
1:12:45
It's awful, One of the worst shows I've ever.
1:12:47
Played. I don't think you played badly.
1:12:49
You drop sticks. I drop sticks some in direct
1:12:52
sunlight at 1:00 PM melting. Oh yeah.
1:12:55
And then my new Axis pedals, you know?
1:12:58
Oh fuck, I forgot about that. They.
1:12:59
Fucking broke. We had a tape of mid set.
1:13:02
I was like great. I was like.
1:13:03
I forgot about. That I was like Craig got one
1:13:05
video of me actually not blowing it for a second, but that's the
1:13:07
only second that anyone ever got.
1:13:09
But to be fair, it's like I have to I've through experience, I
1:13:13
realized that the people that come to the shows are my
1:13:15
friends. We're all very supportive.
1:13:17
We know what it. Is played bad.
1:13:19
I think every show I've ever played I played bad.
1:13:21
I'm never like maybe that. I can probably count 10 on my
1:13:24
hands where I came around and went.
1:13:25
Louder than life. Fucking God.
1:13:26
Louder Than Life. I think it was the best show
1:13:28
I've ever played in my life. Really.
1:13:30
Yeah. Which that's the time to come
1:13:33
correct, and I'm very proud of that there for sure.
1:13:36
Was it Thursday? We were there, but yeah, we
1:13:38
turned up on Saturday. We.
1:13:39
Were the first day, right? Yeah.
1:13:41
First day did you headline? We headline like one of the
1:13:44
side. Stages the decibel.
1:13:45
Decibel stages. Decibel stage or the other one
1:13:47
that's like literally connected reverb.
1:13:49
And decibel related, these two, they were still pretty big.
1:13:52
Was it you and then Slayer? Yes.
1:13:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fucking.
1:13:55
It was dope. I will say there that was, you
1:13:57
know, we do a lot of European fests and you see a shit load of
1:14:00
people and it just looks like a never ending C.
1:14:03
Sometimes you do US fest, it's not exactly the same but that
1:14:06
one was some special dope. Like you were just kept going
1:14:10
forever it felt like. It feels like that's the first
1:14:13
time I've been to Louder Than Life or any of the women ones,
1:14:16
to be honest with you. It was the first time I've been
1:14:18
and I fucking I was there and I was like, this might be the best
1:14:21
festival that I've been to. It was good.
1:14:24
It's up there with like in the. US for battle for sure.
1:14:27
It's like someone went to Europe and went okay, we love all these
1:14:30
things about these festivals don't like this and then went
1:14:33
okay let's do it yeah like it was sick.
1:14:35
Sick hangs easy to get around, even more so if you have a Honda
1:14:39
motor but. Hacker, you already fucking know
1:14:41
how to motor. Get back to available now and
1:14:42
you're. Great roads for that.
1:14:45
Louder than life. Yeah.
1:14:46
And I will say. Oh, even the where the bus was,
1:14:48
where we parked, I don't know if you walked outside.
1:14:50
Yeah. Wow.
1:14:51
We're drinking outside the bus. Everyone was taking turns
1:14:53
driving that thing. That's where Nick ate it.
1:14:56
Yeah, Nick ate it that night. Ate.
1:14:57
But we were supposed to play louder in life last year, and
1:15:00
that was when this crazy hurricane, you know, apocalypse
1:15:03
happened and we were parked outside the the thing and it's
1:15:06
just destroyed outside the video wall it.
1:15:09
Was louder than Yeah it. Was the same festival.
1:15:11
You got there and then it happened.
1:15:12
We. We.
1:15:13
We loaded in, my drum kit was on stage covered with a blanket and
1:15:17
they're like, 'cause they were like, you have to load on at
1:15:19
8:00 AM and they were like, well, you know the weather this
1:15:22
and they're like, well, you have to do it first.
1:15:24
So all of our shit was on stage, just covered in tarps for hours
1:15:28
and then the video wall smacking against the riser.
1:15:31
It's like the end of the world. I remember we were there.
1:15:35
I mean, it was me and Andrew and we're trying to get food 'cause
1:15:38
there's nothing and it's fucking raining.
1:15:40
When we walked on the stage. We walked on stage and then
1:15:43
you're you hear the wind blow and everyone's just.
1:15:45
Like get off the stage. It's just just like falling all
1:15:49
over. The place the whole video walls
1:15:50
just. Rocking.
1:15:51
That's fucking scary shit. It was.
1:15:54
It was, yes. We ain't eaten today.
1:15:55
So you didn't get to play? No, we watched Longest Yard and
1:15:58
then we watched another movie. You.
1:16:00
Just still get paid. The half, I think.
1:16:03
Half, I think. Half.
1:16:04
We got a half. You know how it goes.
1:16:06
Not a full. Night.
1:16:07
But for us, I mean, we never did a Wimmer fest like we've like,
1:16:10
that would have been our first US festival.
1:16:12
Like Lauren Shore has never gotten any of those festival
1:16:15
offers. When we were a young band, New
1:16:16
England Hardcore Fest was the only festival that ever honestly
1:16:19
cared about us for a long. Time Scott Lee.
1:16:21
Big Up, Scotland. 'Cause we love Scott Lee.
1:16:22
So so when we had the opportunity to do the fest this
1:16:25
year, I remember the manager was like, oh, like, you know, New
1:16:26
England Metal Fest. And we're like, you know, no big
1:16:29
deal sort of thing. And we're like, no, like we're
1:16:31
from New Jersey. This festival was like the only
1:16:34
place on the East Coast that did something like this our whole
1:16:37
lives. Yeah.
1:16:38
And they're offering to have this headline.
1:16:40
I was like, I don't care what it is.
1:16:41
Like that's a bucket list. I'm getting fucked up.
1:16:44
I'm going to Pete's review and on the corner I'm gonna take a
1:16:46
nap. Yeah, and I'm gonna drink a
1:16:48
punch. You ate your buzz.
1:16:49
Hang out with my best friends. I didn't even think about that.
1:16:51
That is the like the local festival.
1:16:53
Yeah, and it was a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun.
1:16:55
I obviously, clearly had a lot of fun.
1:16:57
Yeah, you. Fucking you got fucked up.
1:16:59
Got to see Bay way and Jay. You got a.
1:17:01
You got a bucket list that you haven't done.
1:17:03
What's your bucket list? Vodka for me, vodka would
1:17:06
probably be it, yeah. Vodka or I feel.
1:17:09
Like that's in your future. It's just in the August run and.
1:17:12
Usually you do the July, June, July.
1:17:14
The June, July. Rock and Ring rock parks we did
1:17:17
last year. We saw each other and that was
1:17:18
that was dope. Wait.
1:17:20
That was last year. Oh my God.
1:17:21
Wait, no, the other. That was this year.
1:17:23
That was this year. OK, thank fuck.
1:17:24
Yeah, we're yeah. Thank fuck.
1:17:26
That was June feels like a. Rock rock, hammering rock and
1:17:29
park. I think I feel like I enjoyed
1:17:32
rocking Park more but was. That the first one, yeah.
1:17:35
Oh, way more. It was like.
1:17:36
Yeah. Yeah, so dope.
1:17:40
It was. Did you get to drive anything?
1:17:42
I got to be in a dude's car driving a fucking GT3RS.
1:17:47
Because there was a show on at the same time, wasn't there?
1:17:49
Yeah. Because the guy, the guy that
1:17:51
did the work on my RS3 did hit me up and was like, I'm working
1:17:56
there if you want to hang out. I didn't have any time.
1:17:58
It's so funny because after I found out that I was like, why
1:18:01
this thing's closed while there's this whole shit going on
1:18:03
right now. Like why?
1:18:04
Who the fuck is racing there? I go on my Instagram, there's
1:18:08
this dude named Chelsea de Nova. He's one of the most famous
1:18:12
drift racers or drivers in in America.
1:18:17
He drifts a lot at the track that I'm at and cause he's he
1:18:19
wins Formula One, he won it once and was just like I'm retiring
1:18:23
I'm doing this for fun now and he's a fucking beast.
1:18:26
He was at the track that day. He like rented the track that
1:18:29
day. Ohh wow.
1:18:30
And was supercar racing around the track and I literally texted
1:18:33
him. I was like, bro, what are you
1:18:34
doing here right now? How the fuck did you get here?
1:18:38
Are you boys? I mean, I'd see him at the.
1:18:40
We're like acquaintances, like one of those where you see
1:18:41
somebody like you're at a show, you see.
1:18:42
So we like. Oh, what the fuck is up?
1:18:45
You like me, like me and you until right now.
1:18:47
Exactly. Fuck is up bitch, that's what.
1:18:49
Talking about shit now we're boys.
1:18:51
You ever drive with, you know, Misha Periphery?
1:18:53
I haven't driven with him. Now he loves a car.
1:18:55
He's always trying to get me. I come to LA, you can drive my
1:18:57
cars. I'm like so far away but I
1:18:59
really want to. That's he's a big car guy.
1:19:02
He's a huge car guy. They got me wanting a car now.
1:19:05
Because it's got a Facebook marketplace.
1:19:08
Sign up to the Patreon Sign up to the Patreon so I can get a
1:19:12
better car. How are you guys writing a song?
1:19:15
What's the? What's the process?
1:19:16
Process. The guy is not here.
1:19:18
Well, the guys. But you can tell me.
1:19:19
You can tell me because one of the guys is here and then the
1:19:22
other guys here. But I got the feeling there's a
1:19:24
guy. We get a board.
1:19:26
This is how we started the way that we we know because as he is
1:19:30
very much Adam is very much involved in this, but in a way
1:19:33
that the whole Internet happens to feel like Adam is the only
1:19:36
person that writes these songs. So I'm going to just set the
1:19:39
record straight right here. OK, we get a board, a
1:19:41
whiteboard. We all start out the whole thing
1:19:44
with what do we want these songs to sound like?
1:19:47
Do we want it to sound like underworld fucking lady with two
1:19:50
pistols shooting the shit out of vampires?
1:19:52
Do we want it to sound like a fucking a church is on fire do
1:19:56
and. So we just like really
1:19:57
literally. Like, like we'll do like like a
1:20:00
mood like Adam will move, Adam will have the white white board
1:20:03
and we all sit there and then it's like alright, columns and
1:20:06
it's like, how would you describe the song in one or two
1:20:08
words? That's.
1:20:08
It wait, a song that doesn't exist yet.
1:20:10
That doesn't exist. You have to describe it in one
1:20:12
or two words. If it's too many.
1:20:13
Oh, but you know, I'm melodic. Sad.
1:20:15
This like, no, no, no. Give me a movie.
1:20:16
Give me a feeling. One thing so sick.
1:20:19
Yeah, OK, give me some examples. Interstellar.
1:20:21
Literally, we had it. Oblivion.
1:20:22
Oblivion was supposed to be our Our idea was that was falling
1:20:26
into a black hole. And so originally it was falling
1:20:28
into a black hole and now we need to come up with an
1:20:30
instrumental that sounds like that.
1:20:32
If you look at me, I ain't doing shit.
1:20:34
To be completely honest, I don't know how to do any of that.
1:20:36
I don't Fucking no, no. The Fourth Harmony.
1:20:38
Yeah, you got the. Fred, that's all I got.
1:20:41
But, you know, then we put him in the little room and we were
1:20:43
like, alright, dude, do your little rough draft stuff.
1:20:45
And then he writes a bunch of ribs.
1:20:46
He brings it to the table. Yeah.
1:20:48
We don't. Give it to the table.
1:20:49
Yeah, the table I'll up. We'll put some drums.
1:20:51
I'll see what sticks out. You put your drums in.
1:20:54
Yes, Oh yes, yes, yes, things. Get moved, they start flip
1:20:58
flopping around like it's a it's very much a collaborative effort
1:21:02
by the time it's all done. And he'll send me stuff like
1:21:04
when we're both at home that way.
1:21:05
Like there's some things that have been like looked at and
1:21:08
there's like some like key moments that's like, Yep, this
1:21:10
is definitely good. And then some things just don't.
1:21:11
Like Oblivion was like a piece that was literally like the
1:21:14
first thing I put Trump's on. And then we wrote so many songs
1:21:17
and then we were just hit a wall.
1:21:18
And it was like, oh, we have to start another song.
1:21:21
I don't even know what to do. I'm like, well, that one riff I
1:21:23
love, I'm a fight for it. Let's just start a song with
1:21:26
that, see where it goes. And then it's like, well, what's
1:21:28
it going to sound like? Oh, hey, with this black hole,
1:21:31
you know, interstellar thing, Let's let's rock.
1:21:33
Let's kind of let's just treat it as that.
1:21:35
And that also gave us like the album, I think more focused,
1:21:37
like everyone could say every song sounds the same.
1:21:40
That's a big like thing right now is every Lauren Short song
1:21:43
sounds the same, but I think if you put on Glenwood and then you
1:21:45
put on Oblivion, then you. Put on Lionheart.
1:21:48
Lionheart, then you put on Unbreakable, then you put on
1:21:50
forever Nothing. I will say this, I think it
1:21:54
within an album context, your songs do sound quite similar,
1:22:00
but like in a way where it's like, OK, this is the vibe of
1:22:03
the album but like. That's the band this.
1:22:05
One has like those are loads more like the like, excuse me if
1:22:10
this is offensive, but like the power nettle, there's like a
1:22:12
power nettle shit like more so in this one.
1:22:16
Oh yeah, and I'm like, when you gonna bust out like a fucking?
1:22:19
We have one and we didn't. It didn't make the.
1:22:21
Outfit didn't make. It No, no, no, no.
1:22:23
What happened? What I'm 'cause I'm desperate
1:22:25
too. Far in.
1:22:26
Leslie Will was like was. It like full Dream Theater.
1:22:30
No, no, it was like, I mean, I knew people would just be like,
1:22:33
oh, they're going Parkway Drive 'cause it was very like
1:22:35
Scorpions. Yeah, but.
1:22:37
It wasn't. There's a couple of.
1:22:38
Riffs in there, which is like you are going part way drive,
1:22:40
but in a way that I like. I talked about this yesterday.
1:22:43
I I'm a new Parkway guy. I'm not an old Parkway guy.
1:22:47
When Parkway came out, I was like October Parkway in 2000 and
1:22:50
seven 300 cat rooms that were half sold and I wasn't about
1:22:55
that Parkway, the new like cheesy Bon Jovi Parkway.
1:22:59
That's my shit. I like both of it.
1:23:01
It's. A good time.
1:23:02
I start for me I started to lose it at what was it deep blue?
1:23:07
Deep Blue. I think Deep Blue suffered from
1:23:10
its production. I think I listened to it at that
1:23:13
time when I was really into like super process stuff and I was
1:23:16
like, oh wait, this is not edited.
1:23:19
That's probably exactly what I mean.
1:23:20
Me at the time, I didn't know anything about music.
1:23:23
I'm just like, I know what I, I like to hear this.
1:23:24
So I'm a fucking music genius, like all the other people out
1:23:27
there with like their geniuses because they never played an
1:23:28
instrument. And like, I'm over here like, I
1:23:31
don't like that because this sounds like this.
1:23:33
Yeah. And then I get older and I'm
1:23:34
like, you get a whole new appreciation for the band.
1:23:36
Like we've seen them on tour, their their production, their
1:23:40
performance. It's so.
1:23:42
They're showmen. They're.
1:23:43
Showmen bring about the Mötley Crüe like stage.
1:23:46
It's so dope. Yeah, it's fucking awesome.
1:23:48
And again, adopting those tastes and I think with touring with
1:23:50
bands like that, that's what gave this album those sounds.
1:23:53
Yeah, but you didn't do the vocal you.
1:23:55
Did well, honestly, Will would write of lyric.
1:23:57
He'd be like, he's like, I got the chorus and he's like, he'd
1:23:59
come in the room, sing it to us and like.
1:24:01
Like a real sing. No, like he was just like, he
1:24:03
was like, I don't how do you know what you would do?
1:24:06
He would be like, and we're like, all right, no, no, you
1:24:10
don't got it. But that song, he was just like,
1:24:12
I don't know how to make at that time because we were trying to
1:24:14
write simpler, more impactful lyrical.
1:24:16
To the girl had that part. So wait, it's a.
1:24:18
Hard song ever that one. It's just a whole.
1:24:20
Song, a whole song that got canned.
1:24:22
Yeah, or a whole. But did you have a like a sang
1:24:25
vocal on it? No.
1:24:28
That's what we're not there. Yeah, we got that's.
1:24:29
What I'm screens? On the new album, but that's
1:24:31
about as far as we've ventured into that direction.
1:24:34
I actually technically Lionheart has cleans from every single
1:24:36
person in the band. Yeah, in the background.
1:24:38
Lord of Shore, Yeah, What the fuck is up?
1:24:40
Lord of Shore sounds the same. Yeah, what the fuck is going?
1:24:42
Over. That's not a chorus.
1:24:43
I was like halfway through the album the other day and I was
1:24:46
like, this motherfucker is gonna hit me with a chorus in a minute
1:24:49
like a a sing song. But you didn't do it.
1:24:51
Yeah, it's. Got a Lionheart's, got a little
1:24:53
bit of a sing no. I, you know, I mean like a
1:24:57
fucking, I want a power net one. You ever listened to Symphony X?
1:25:01
You ever listened to that band? I I know the band never hurt
1:25:03
though. It's so fucking cheesy but I
1:25:06
love it. I mean, at the end of the day, I
1:25:08
think like things like that are like, it's not like it needs to
1:25:11
be curated genuinely. And I think even in the studio
1:25:14
where it was like there's that opportunity, there's that
1:25:17
thought floating in the air overhead one's head, but it's
1:25:19
like it just didn't come about cash.
1:25:20
That's the reason why. Would it seem like a cash grab?
1:25:22
And I think the more and like, honestly, I would want Will to
1:25:25
like find his sound, you know, because I feel like every great
1:25:29
vocalist or like singer, singer, like, you know, these people
1:25:32
where you're like, you hear them that, you know, when Will
1:25:34
screams that it's Will, I would want his singing voice to be
1:25:39
treated the same where it's like, oh, Will.
1:25:41
Sounds like voice. Sounds like Bastille.
1:25:43
I know you know that fucking. Band, you know what a funny
1:25:46
story about Bastille, but that's not that's not a bad fan voice
1:25:49
No, he's fucking on YouTube. It's.
1:25:51
Fucking incredible. My I.
1:25:53
Don't know Bastille, I don't know.
1:25:55
Happier. My.
1:25:57
Oh, the song we're just talking about the one.
1:25:58
That I was singing on. We saw the.
1:26:00
Show sold out outside Municipal Auditorium.
1:26:02
No, dude, that guy. No, no.
1:26:04
You're like, we played that song.
1:26:05
Really. That guy sounds like that.
1:26:07
No, but you said he sounds like that.
1:26:09
Oh, yeah, no, that's Walk The Moon.
1:26:10
That's Walk The Moon. OK.
1:26:11
Nevermind. Another incredible band.
1:26:13
My dad. Back in the day, not anymore.
1:26:16
My dad has technically engineered the drummer from
1:26:21
Bastille, right? But my dad is not an sound
1:26:24
engineer. I had a little studio back in
1:26:27
the day like 15 years ago and the drummer from Bastille hit me
1:26:30
up, didn't know him, but he was like, hey, I heard you have a
1:26:33
studio. I need to record something real
1:26:34
quick. And I was like, I live like at
1:26:36
this point I lived in Nottingham, like 300 miles away.
1:26:38
I was like, yeah, I'm not there. But like I'm pretty sure I could
1:26:42
just tell my dad what to do. So the drummer from Bastille
1:26:46
turns up at my parents house, he meets my dad, they go to the
1:26:50
studio, I tell my dad what to do.
1:26:52
I mean, my dad just stayed in the room to make sure he didn't
1:26:55
steal anything. And then he tracks his drums and
1:26:58
then he leaves. But that's my 1° two degrees of
1:27:01
separation. My dad's met him but I haven't
1:27:05
anyway I want. You know, best deal.
1:27:07
I just want to let you know. I think we'll play later.
1:27:09
I'll tell you this, I think it would be terrible for your fan
1:27:11
base if you did what I wanted. So don't do it.
1:27:15
But I wanted to. I am desperate for like an
1:27:20
anthemic chorus. Oh yeah.
1:27:22
Because you got courses, but like, and this is not me saying
1:27:25
like I fucking love the album, but I want you to sell out.
1:27:31
Listen, we need more. We need more freaking Moto
1:27:33
compacto. We need more cars.
1:27:36
Available now. I was so sure it was going to
1:27:38
come as well because there's so many leads that actually are a
1:27:42
little bit like, like the Parkway anthemic sound.
1:27:46
And I was like, Oh my God, they're going to hit me with it.
1:27:48
Yeah, I didn't. It's good for them because it
1:27:50
would do terribly, but I want it.
1:27:52
I mean, you never know. And at the end of the day, like
1:27:54
I think are like through this record, there's a lot of
1:27:56
different things where if people are still asking for that and
1:28:00
thinking that's like AI don't know.
1:28:02
People are still asking. For it, I mean, people have
1:28:03
asked about the singing stuff for sure a lot, but I think.
1:28:06
They're doing a lot of cleans on YouTube and shit.
1:28:08
Yeah, that's what that's what made me go.
1:28:11
But I think that boys, we like progress, like, I don't know,
1:28:13
because you see like drastic changes in bands and that's like
1:28:15
rough, you know what I mean? And I think this record we,
1:28:18
yeah, and we experienced a lot of like different types of songs
1:28:22
in my opinion, that we can. I'm seeing what the fans accept
1:28:25
and honestly that they accept the vulnerability.
1:28:26
They accept honestly everything. It could be Prison of Flesh,
1:28:29
which is just noise and craziness, or it's Glenwood
1:28:33
which is vulnerable. So I think we could honestly do
1:28:35
whatever we want after this record.
1:28:37
I think we could do anything. It's quite nice of you to be
1:28:39
thinking of them when making the music.
1:28:42
Sometimes it's a little bit of both.
1:28:44
I mean, when we did this record, I feel like we had a rough time
1:28:46
in the beginning because we were thinking too much about them and
1:28:49
everyone else and every little thing.
1:28:50
And it's like, oh, the noise of just what you should be doing
1:28:53
versus who you are as a band. And then once we just like.
1:28:55
You also can't. Please.
1:28:56
Everyone. No, the people who want who are
1:28:59
saying every song sounds the same.
1:29:02
You do a song that's vastly different and then say, oh, sell
1:29:05
outs, Yeah. And then the people that want
1:29:07
that other stuff, you give it to them.
1:29:09
You never know what they're gonna say.
1:29:10
We had people who were like, dude, this album is too light
1:29:13
bro, fucking unbreakable. You always suck and then it.
1:29:16
Was like and then prisoner, flesh prisoner.
1:29:17
Flesh is next to like, yo this song is too heavy dude.
1:29:20
I'm like. What are you, unbreakable?
1:29:24
Unbreakable is just ask people that didn't get past the 1st 16
1:29:27
bars saying that. That's not fucking heavy.
1:29:29
Yeah. And that was just a fun song.
1:29:31
Yeah. Like we wanted to have like
1:29:32
playing that song in the set. Right now, second is the most
1:29:36
fun I have on. You get the best.
1:29:37
Do you get people singing the guitar?
1:29:39
Oh no, not yet. We used to do it for paying too
1:29:42
many. Fucking people.
1:29:44
Yeah, I think I think about that song as like the the Queen of
1:29:48
our band, you know, like Queen did a lot where they they wrote
1:29:52
things for the fans, but in a way that was obviously it's for
1:29:56
them. But like, you know, like We Will
1:29:57
Rock you to do that. They do that shit and you do
1:30:01
that. You hear that throughout an
1:30:02
entire room. You're like, this is the
1:30:03
craziest sound I've ever heard. It doesn't even.
1:30:05
Know who knows what they were thinking when they did that, but
1:30:07
they ate they. They, they, they, they were
1:30:10
cooking. So if you can write a song like
1:30:14
that in our genre, that could just make people like, it's
1:30:17
simple. It is, it hits.
1:30:19
And when you sing it, you feel fucking awesome about yourself.
1:30:23
You're gonna sing it. OK, so that's like the same
1:30:26
thing when I hear people, if I hear people in other bands don't
1:30:30
on parkways, new stuff like the big, the big whoa, whoa bits,
1:30:34
right. That's my favorite part.
1:30:36
They've never been to a Parkway Drive show, clearly.
1:30:38
Literally what I was going to say.
1:30:39
Like you do not know what that feels like to get sung back at
1:30:45
you or to be in the same room as that if you think that that part
1:30:48
sucks. Like that is made for the live
1:30:51
show and guess what? It fucking rules.
1:30:53
Oh, of course. I mean, it's the same thing with
1:30:54
like, I didn't realize I have a now I'm starting to like get a
1:30:57
very big appreciation for like hardcore music.
1:30:59
But we just saw a drain. The other.
1:31:01
Day and I, I never listen to that kind of music, but I'm like
1:31:04
side stage and I'm listening to it and I'm like, this looks like
1:31:07
so much fun. I would say.
1:31:09
You are out there. You are probably having so much
1:31:13
fucking fun. You're going to have so much fun
1:31:15
until drain gets slightly bigger and then they're going to say
1:31:17
they hate drain. That's the only thing I hate
1:31:19
about hardcore. I love hardcore.
1:31:21
I grew up in hardcore bands. The the the only thing that
1:31:24
sucks, especially in the USI don't care you if did you get
1:31:28
this far into the episode. If you don't like if you like
1:31:30
hardcore, and I don't think you did so, but like when a band
1:31:34
gets big, not loose. Kubla Khan the minute they get.
1:31:38
Lauren ashore. To that, you know about a band
1:31:41
from the hardcore scene, You they get to that level and then
1:31:45
all of a sudden it's like this band's always been asked, like,
1:31:49
no, you just don't like the fact that they got big.
1:31:51
You can just say like, I prefer smaller bands because it makes
1:31:54
me feel cool. Just say that, yeah.
1:31:57
No, they can't accept that. They can't.
1:31:59
And again, we put on for like, like as far as like deathcore,
1:32:02
like deathcore metal, like especially just deathcore.
1:32:05
What I realized like when the record came out and I was like
1:32:08
looking around, I'm like the people that are in like, let's
1:32:10
say a deathcore subreddit, they're the ones with the most
1:32:13
to say about it versus you go to the Lorna Shore Reddit where
1:32:16
they're actually, in my opinion, like absorbing the music and
1:32:20
consuming it how we intend versus deathcore, just looking
1:32:23
at it as, oh, this band was a deathcore band.
1:32:25
They're labeled A deathcore band and this is in Death Core, so
1:32:28
I'm going to hate on it, but I'm like, I strongly think we were
1:32:31
just a metal band at this stage of the game.
1:32:33
We come from Death Core because that's just what we were lumped
1:32:36
in. But even back in the day, we
1:32:37
weren't like Suicide Silence, death Core.
1:32:40
We were more tech death than anything.
1:32:41
We we liked Necrophagist and fucking Arch Spire and Zenith.
1:32:46
Passage and like Fallujah, death metal.
1:32:48
Shit, that was way more of an influence above Death Corps.
1:32:52
We just had VFW breakdowns because we're from New Jersey
1:32:55
and the only way people talk about you.
1:32:56
To do yeah and people. Just if people March started
1:32:59
your show and got knocked out, that's everyone talked about and
1:33:01
wanted to come to your. Show I used to be a I used to
1:33:04
have to fight, not literally fight, but like I flew the flag
1:33:09
for Death Corps back in the UK when just when when deathcore
1:33:13
popped off and I was like, this is sick because I love hardcore
1:33:16
and I love death metal and now somebody's put the two together
1:33:19
and it just got. What were like the big ones over
1:33:21
there? I'm trying to think.
1:33:22
Over in the UK there was like annotations of an autopsy.
1:33:26
Of course. Yeah, I mean, my band Biotrophy
1:33:28
was pretty big in the UK of deathcore stuff, but we'd have
1:33:31
everyone would come through, like we'd do the big deathcore
1:33:34
tours. But like, I remember thinking,
1:33:38
why the fuck didn't this catch on when Despised Icon rolled
1:33:42
through and they had a shirt that said death metal core.
1:33:45
And I was like, that's it. That's that's what I'm trying to
1:33:48
tell everyone. It's it's death metal core.
1:33:51
I'm like, OK, that makes fucking sense.
1:33:53
Yeah, I love death core. You mentioned subreddits.
1:33:57
Don't go in the genre subject. Oh, it's terrible.
1:34:00
Don't go in. It's just that.
1:34:02
It's that just. That.
1:34:06
Is your mother has to have had like Tylenol every day for nine
1:34:11
months to be in that. I I I used to be cool with our
1:34:16
slash metal core like it used to be cool and then I had slaughter
1:34:21
prevail on the broadcast and now they fucking they're out crazy.
1:34:25
I was like, grow up. Listen, people got a lot to say
1:34:30
and honestly in the woods, annoying for me is like,
1:34:33
obviously we I want to know what people have to say, but I can't
1:34:37
say someone's wrong for saying something because that's just
1:34:40
their opinion. But sometimes I'm like, this is
1:34:42
just like has no substance to it.
1:34:44
Like when people to close minded opinion, it's like you're just
1:34:47
it doesn't seem that like research.
1:34:48
If someone was like, Hey, listen, every song you blast
1:34:51
beat and you do this blast beat at this point and then you
1:34:53
change this one and because you do that, every song sounds the
1:34:55
same. OK, you sat there and spend way
1:34:57
too much time diagnosing my drumming, but at least you're
1:35:00
like about something. But people just like, yeah, it
1:35:02
sucks. And someone's complaining about
1:35:04
amount of blast beats. It's just like maybe death metal
1:35:06
is not for you. I was going to say when.
1:35:07
People were like, oh, Lorna Shore, just oh, another song
1:35:09
with blast beats. I'm like, I listen to Belfagor,
1:35:12
Dark Funeral, Demon Borgier. These bands have way more than
1:35:17
we do. Hey, there's Speaking of Demon
1:35:18
Borgier, there's a big demon there's I mean, you, you guys
1:35:22
always have like a demon influence.
1:35:24
But I feel like sure on this record, like there's one bit in
1:35:28
particular that I'm like, I can't remember what the fucking
1:35:31
song is. But if you listen to, there's
1:35:33
the second to last song, a nameless.
1:35:35
Hit. I was just, oh, is it that one
1:35:36
or is it the other one? A nameless hymn has like the
1:35:39
full blown. Like I was like if I was inferno
1:35:42
with cowboy boots on. Play by the giant.
1:35:47
Yeah. Is that one?
1:35:48
Is that one that? One like that's our our ode to
1:35:52
like the black metal people. And I always said even after
1:35:54
that song, I was like, we did it so well.
1:35:55
And that song in my opinion, especially drum wise, I was
1:35:58
like, I, I think I'm good. Like if this Doesn't Like Land
1:36:01
is one of like the best songs. Oh yeah, then.
1:36:03
Like that's the best iteration of Blackened Deathcore that I
1:36:07
think we have to offer, honestly.
1:36:08
I fucking, I fucking love it. I love classical music and I
1:36:12
love like all string instruments.
1:36:16
I'm literally on the way back from Louder Than Life.
1:36:19
I forced Madison to listen to Metallica S&M, which was like my
1:36:24
gateway to like Cradle Of Filth and Debbie Wargate because I
1:36:26
just love Metallica. And then he did that and I was
1:36:28
like, this is cool. I wonder if there is other bands
1:36:31
that have orchestra and metal and then.
1:36:34
Team of War gear. Came.
1:36:35
Up, that one said. It's insane.
1:36:36
But like, that is my fucking shit.
1:36:40
And you got Shadow of Intent on this tour?
1:36:42
Yep. Yep.
1:36:43
Oh yeah, and they do a big. Orchestra.
1:36:44
Does he help with your orchestra shit?
1:36:47
Because he helps with loads of people.
1:36:48
No, actually, Andrew, yeah, he's a fucking.
1:36:51
Which is crazy though, because Chris Wiseman is the person who
1:36:54
gave us Andrew, so to say We needed a guitar player.
1:36:57
Chris is my friend. I was like, hey, we need guitar
1:36:59
player. He's like, I got this guy in
1:37:00
Connecticut. Andrew, he's amazing.
1:37:01
Just hit him up. For those of you that don't
1:37:03
know, he's in Shadow of Intent, Chris Wiseman.
1:37:05
Chris, So Chris and currents. Yeah, and Currents and he, he
1:37:08
basically handed Andrew and a silver platter because Andrew
1:37:12
was supposed to fill in for him on guitar and Moke was supposed
1:37:16
to play drums for Shadow of Intent.
1:37:18
And Moke and Andrew were supposed to tour in Shadow of
1:37:20
Intent together before the either of them were in this
1:37:23
band. And then that tour got
1:37:25
cancelled. So they did not.
1:37:28
This is years ago. It's.
1:37:30
Crazy how that works. I mean, this is the reunion
1:37:33
tour. I'm telling you, it's actually
1:37:35
fucking crazy. That's fucking sick it was so
1:37:38
crazy. 2 truths and a lie all. Right, two truths and a lie in
1:37:41
no particular order whatsoever. A donkey punched a drunk
1:37:46
Irishman and then ghost ridden his bike down the street once we
1:37:50
had. Once we had to carry.
1:37:55
Austin through a hotel in a bellhop because he carried a
1:37:59
couch up the stairs. Wrong.
1:38:01
We took a plane. Austin brought 4 vapes on the
1:38:05
plane. He brought four of them.
1:38:07
We told him not to bring 4 vapes.
1:38:08
Fell falls asleep. Look at him right now, fucking
1:38:10
hitting that fucking vape. Fucking Oh my God, fucking
1:38:13
savages. So now bring four of those guys
1:38:15
on a plane and then one of the vapes fucking explodes while
1:38:19
you're asleep in the fucking in your pocket.
1:38:21
And then he got Burns on the way for the European fest to the
1:38:25
European fest. OK, I'm going to work backwards
1:38:27
from the vape one. What vape?
1:38:29
What brand? Geek Bar.
1:38:31
He has like every fucking whatever hits.
1:38:34
Geek, but you had four in your pockets.
1:38:36
Sporadically, maybe 2 in the pockets, 2 in the bag, and.
1:38:40
One exploded, Yeah, when you were asleep.
1:38:42
What happened? There, it just busted a hole in
1:38:45
the pants. Woke up.
1:38:46
I was freaking out. Did it make a noise?
1:38:48
Not really, no. But you felt it was like a
1:38:50
pressure. Like you never had a, you never
1:38:52
dry hit a or like your vape was OK back in the day when they had
1:38:55
like box mods and it was just an easy button to press and it just
1:38:58
starts going off but you feel it going off in your pocket and you
1:39:01
don't even know until it was 1000°.
1:39:03
It was more of a hot thing, not an explosive.
1:39:05
Yeah, he, he burned. He basically he needed burn
1:39:07
cream. That's where we got.
1:39:08
That's where we got with that. OK, go back from that.
1:39:10
What's a bellhop? Like when you're in a hotel and
1:39:12
you bring your bags up. Oh yeah, they're one of those
1:39:14
I'm alone two things. That's not That's how I.
1:39:17
Yeah, one of the men alone 2. Things home alone two we don't
1:39:19
have them in U code I think because every time I see one in
1:39:22
the US now I'm like oh Home alone 2 and it.
1:39:24
Was like this is just. A hotel thing.
1:39:26
One of those home alone two things.
1:39:28
Repeat that sentence for me again.
1:39:30
So we had to carry Austin through a hotel on a bellhop
1:39:35
because he carried a fucking couch up the.
1:39:37
Stairs is when I had back problems and we were that's what
1:39:41
started We were and we were beginning to write Pain remains
1:39:46
and. About how much pain you're in.
1:39:48
Yes, I was exactly the pain. And I remember.
1:39:52
I actually remember. Yeah.
1:39:53
Oh, God. I'm.
1:39:55
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. The jig is up.
1:39:57
No it's not dude. You don't even know if it
1:39:59
happened or not. It could be that could just be a
1:40:01
way. On my back and I couldn't get
1:40:02
out of bed so they had to wheel me out on that into the van.
1:40:06
Wait, why is the jig up? What did you say there's?
1:40:08
Nothing to worry about. Don't fucking worry about I.
1:40:11
Stopped myself. OK, OK.
1:40:13
Where were you carrying the couch?
1:40:15
I was helping my brother move right before that.
1:40:17
How big was this couch? Not not big enough that caused
1:40:20
as much damage. You got to slip this, didn't
1:40:22
you? Yeah.
1:40:22
That was your back injury. Yeah.
1:40:24
I don't think I knew about the back injury.
1:40:25
I didn't know how it happens. You might not, you still might
1:40:29
not just. Still up in the air, Yeah.
1:40:32
Speaking of that, how is your back now?
1:40:33
You alright? I'm feeling great.
1:40:34
Yeah. You're in the gym.
1:40:35
We're at the gym. That I.
1:40:36
To the gym pushing iron. When people ask what do you do?
1:40:39
How do you feel like you gotta go to the gym?
1:40:41
You can't sit around. You cannot sit around.
1:40:43
Everyone who has like a tiny little back problem, they're
1:40:47
like DM me, like oh, how did you get over?
1:40:49
The idea of gym How? Did you get Yeah, but I broke my
1:40:51
back. Yours was like a a valid, like
1:40:54
you had to slip the disc. I broke a vertebra.
1:40:56
But there's people that just like, oh man, I really, I really
1:40:59
sprained my back. Like, how did you get over that?
1:41:01
I'm like you spraying your back. You get over that by just
1:41:03
walking around. You're gonna be good.
1:41:05
You told me you're like deadlifts.
1:41:07
Deadlifts. Deadlifts.
1:41:10
Drugs. Yeah, you know, help me.
1:41:13
OK, back to #1. Number one is I donkey punched a
1:41:17
drunk Irishman and then ghost riding his bike down the street.
1:41:20
Was ghost riding a bike just when you steal someone's bike?
1:41:23
So it basically you get on a bike and then you start riding
1:41:26
it and then you jump off the bike and it just keeps going.
1:41:28
And then it crashes into something.
1:41:30
Where? Where did this happen?
1:41:31
That was in Scotland. No, no, no, that was Scotland,
1:41:35
Belfast. That was Glasgow.
1:41:37
Where's where the fuck is Glasgow?
1:41:38
No, it was in Ireland. An Irishman.
1:41:41
An Irishman. It was a huge case, guy.
1:41:43
You could still have an Irishman in Glasgow.
1:41:45
It was Auk guy it. Was an Irishman.
1:41:48
OK, it's an Irishman. I We don't know, right?
1:41:50
So one of you says it in Belfast, one of you says it was
1:41:53
Glasgow. Where?
1:41:54
Our story is not straight, yeah, but that was the same.
1:41:57
Maybe because I don't know. Yeah, I know.
1:41:58
I don't know if you're just gaslighting yourself or me.
1:42:02
I. Think one person here is
1:42:03
genuinely confused. OK, so Donkey Punch is the back
1:42:07
back of the head. I don't know.
1:42:10
I thought donkey Punch. I.
1:42:13
Throw Donkey punch. I thought it was funny.
1:42:14
It was originally just punched and I was like, let's just put
1:42:17
donkey. In OK, so you know what?
1:42:18
Wiped them clean. You know a donkey punch is.
1:42:20
When you punch someone in the back of the head I guess.
1:42:22
When you're having sex with them so that they have a fit so they
1:42:25
can. Really.
1:42:27
You did that so to an Irishman. I don't know if he looked good
1:42:30
that made. Really.
1:42:31
I don't. Fucking know you Donkey punch.
1:42:33
It was 2 AMI don't know a lot of things happen at 2:00 AM you.
1:42:35
Punch someone really hard in the back of the head while you're
1:42:38
doing them doggy so they have a seizure so they really throwback
1:42:43
on it. That's what a donkey punch is.
1:42:46
I think he meant haymaker, but. He said.
1:42:48
Donkey got punched. So we weren't bareback in him.
1:42:54
In the UK. Yeah.
1:42:56
OK. Good time.
1:42:57
So it's not a donkey punch. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's
1:43:00
what it is. It is.
1:43:01
That's what you just Google it. Thanks for that.
1:43:05
Doing the work. Yeah, put it on.
1:43:06
The board, Jamie. Give it up for the producer.
1:43:08
Yeah, she Googled it. She's like, that's what that
1:43:11
was. Still fucking need to get you
1:43:16
one of those little fucking trolley.
1:43:19
What's it called? A young Honda.
1:43:20
We need to get you a Honda. After all the donkey punches,
1:43:25
she's never been the same. I haven't done that.
1:43:28
Anyone. OK, I got, I feel like you
1:43:31
dropped the ball on #2 and you said the jig is up.
1:43:34
But however I want to say that 3 is the lie because and don't
1:43:38
tell me. I'll tell you my reasons and
1:43:39
then you can tell me. I take vapes on a plane all the
1:43:43
time in my pocket. 4-5, upwards of five, maybe 5, but like
1:43:50
they've never blown up. And when you said it was a geek
1:43:52
bar, I'm like that's a high quality vape.
1:43:54
That's a high quality. It's a vape.
1:43:56
But they tell you to put it on the plane.
1:43:58
They tell you don't put it in your check luggage.
1:44:01
Because OK, This is why. First of all, I just found this
1:44:04
out very recently through Twat. If you have a laptop they sell
1:44:08
you not to put it in the check thing.
1:44:09
They have to hold on to it. It's because if it were to
1:44:12
explode that it would be easier to put out on deck than if it
1:44:17
was under the deck and the whole cause all of the luggage is
1:44:20
going to ignite. That's why I can't get my Honda
1:44:23
motor compactor available now in a fucking town near you
1:44:26
underneath. Because if it explodes for some
1:44:29
fucking reason it starts going off.
1:44:31
Because the lithium ion batteries are not properly
1:44:34
suited for high altitudes. That's not a Honda thing, by the
1:44:37
way. That's just all lithium
1:44:38
batteries. Lithium, all of them.
1:44:40
That's why you can't bring the the fucking Hummer boards on
1:44:42
planes anymore. Can't bring my sauce.
1:44:44
OK, batteries just start bugging out sometimes.
1:44:47
Before we get back to this, the the Honda motor compactor, do
1:44:50
you think it would go into a storage bin?
1:44:54
It would not know. They wouldn't even let you take
1:44:56
it on as a carry on. To be honest, it's too big.
1:44:58
It's like a folding table. Imagine at an airport though.
1:45:01
You'll see it later. It's in the green room.
1:45:02
You'll you'll, we'll give you a ride on it.
1:45:03
You'll have to get a test drive on it later.
1:45:05
I'm fucking wait. Yeah, I'm going.
1:45:07
I'm going with 3B in the line though.
1:45:09
I'm sticking to it. That's crazy.
1:45:11
That's crazy. Madison shaking her head.
1:45:13
But you, What are you going for? I think it's 2.
1:45:16
Yeah, because he fucking gave it away.
1:45:18
But I wanted the vape conversation so.
1:45:20
You guys gotta both agree on one.
1:45:22
You can't, just can't just two, two out of three.
1:45:25
That is all. He knows everyone believes you,
1:45:27
Donkey Punch. Let me.
1:45:28
Everyone believes that. Trade, trade offer.
1:45:32
Let me donkey punch you later and you can pick which one's the
1:45:35
lie. Trade offer.
1:45:36
I'll donkey punch you later. Yeah, and you can choose but.
1:45:39
Watch me pushing back when you're going to do really.
1:45:42
You're just going to get bald on your fucking knees fucking
1:45:46
flopping, right? I mean, yeah, sure, sure.
1:45:48
OK, I'm still. Both of you got to choose
1:45:50
between one. Listen, you guys are you got to
1:45:52
OK? I'll.
1:45:54
Change 222 or three two you guys both gets decided you 2.
1:45:59
I'm agreeing. I'm agreeing on 222.
1:46:02
Got them. It was it was 3 it.
1:46:05
Was three. It was 3.
1:46:08
It was 3. Oh my God.
1:46:11
Fucking God you got. My yeah Will Will did knockout a
1:46:16
dude on the streets of Belfast. I remember it because they went
1:46:19
to get McDonald's and there was a drunk guy and he was mumbling
1:46:22
stuff and someone's like yo, you OK, And he's like fuck you,
1:46:25
blah, blah, blah, getting beaten, super arrogant and he
1:46:27
had a bike. Lock nobody can understand a
1:46:29
word he was saying because he was so fucked up.
1:46:31
And we're just like yo bro, like chill, we're good.
1:46:34
We're just trying to eat our fucking McDonald's in front of
1:46:36
this fucking place. And he swung the bike lock at
1:46:38
one of our crew members and then from that Will just came in.
1:46:44
With my with my meat tenderizer. Cleaned them and then took his
1:46:48
bike. Ghost rode it and then our boy
1:46:49
took his Mcflurry and threw it at him and then they all threw
1:46:53
it it. Was fucking crazy, bro.
1:46:56
When he threw the Mcflurry, it was like, you ever played
1:46:59
Pokémon before? Fuck yeah.
1:47:00
OK, you're a water Pokémon. No, you're a fire Pokémon versus
1:47:04
a water Pokémon. You use anything.
1:47:06
It was completely ineffective. It was like, you know what?
1:47:09
Mcflurry. It's in a fucking cup.
1:47:10
That shit's ready to explode. He throws it.
1:47:14
It hits him, I was going to say. It deflects it completely.
1:47:17
Was like the whole he didn't even get a little bit of
1:47:20
Mcflurry, I'm like that was great.
1:47:23
He goes down by this. It's not very effective.
1:47:26
It was ineffective. I was like this is crazy drunk
1:47:29
Irishman uses fucking fucking bike lock attack.
1:47:34
On no I I was right. I was right.
1:47:36
I don't know. I should never listen to Matt.
1:47:39
No, that's fine. And do you know what I think?
1:47:42
Well, when I said the jig is up, it was like, because I was about
1:47:45
to go into too much detail where I was like, if I explain this
1:47:49
much, then I know I'm gonna give it away because I was like, oh,
1:47:53
'cause I was gonna say while we're in this hotel, they were
1:47:56
writing. And then I got a call.
1:47:57
They're like, oh, you're gonna go do the tour bringing the
1:47:59
horizon. Like we just got the offer.
1:48:01
Like, Oh my God, amazing. And I remember I just cried my
1:48:03
eyes out because I was like, I, I'm never going to be the same.
1:48:07
I'm done playing drums. I'm off and that.
1:48:09
I came back from a break, brother, you're good.
1:48:12
Like, listen, that was Round 2 because the first time I ever
1:48:15
went back, it sucked. The second time was worse.
1:48:17
And then but yeah, we came back. We're good.
1:48:20
We're here. Listen.
1:48:21
We try to give you guys as many details as possible in every
1:48:24
story. This way you're just like.
1:48:27
Yeah. Which one could it?
1:48:28
Be I'm still going to take my vapes on the plane.
1:48:30
Just no. You're good, you're good.
1:48:31
It could happen. They could explode.
1:48:33
You got to get a little. Sneaky.
1:48:34
That is a real thing. I mean, I got actually got
1:48:36
caught recently. I think I'm fine saying this.
1:48:39
I got caught in, you know, the business class pods where you
1:48:44
can like close the thing. So I was like it's going to
1:48:47
fucking hit my vape. So I was like hitting my vape in
1:48:50
there and I just repeatedly kept hitting my vape and I was like,
1:48:53
this is sick. The alarms aren't going off or
1:48:55
anything. And then I go to hit it and the
1:48:59
guy puts down my dinner as I'm hitting my baby.
1:49:03
And I looked at him and he went don't do that.
1:49:06
And then he walked away. And then I'm thinking in my head
1:49:09
like. You're about to get shot as soon
1:49:11
as. Yeah, because they say that they
1:49:12
do the whole thing where it's like, you know, it's fucking
1:49:15
punishable by jail or like 20 K fine or whatever.
1:49:19
So then these two kids around me are being really, really fucking
1:49:22
insanely annoying. And the parents are that the
1:49:26
staff came to tell the parents to stop.
1:49:29
Like just could you just calm down your kids a bit because
1:49:31
it's fucking business class because you're fucking 2 grand
1:49:33
this seat 100% so. There's my fucking.
1:49:36
So they were like. Put them in a bubble.
1:49:38
They they were like, put them in the fucking storage, put them
1:49:41
with all the lithium batteries if I can deal with that.
1:49:44
So, so like these kids are being annoying.
1:49:46
The staff came to talk to the parents and the parents started
1:49:48
going crazy at the staff. It was a whole thing.
1:49:50
So I was like, this is my moment to make boys with the guy that
1:49:54
caught me vaping. So I went up there and I was
1:49:57
like, so how about those fucking kids here?
1:50:00
And then he was like, Oh my God, tell me about it, blah, blah
1:50:03
blah. He had this big vent session and
1:50:05
then just as I left, I went where that thing earlier like we
1:50:09
good. And he just goes, don't let me
1:50:12
see you doing it. And that was it.
1:50:14
Nice. People vape on, I vape on a
1:50:15
plane. But I do want to meet you too.
1:50:20
You blow it out with so much air.
1:50:21
I just let, I just let it fucking absorb all of that
1:50:25
fucking place around whatever. I just like pillow thing that
1:50:29
Joe Badd recommended me where it was like you put your face in it
1:50:32
and it's supposed to like hold you up and you have like your
1:50:33
arms in it. You're supposed to like never
1:50:35
that thing. You got him on the fucking
1:50:37
scooter and you doing that you got.
1:50:40
You got it. There have been multiple phases
1:50:42
of Austin going. I'm always trying to figure out
1:50:44
how to get comfortable on a plane.
1:50:46
It's just like, I'll buy any gadget I see on TikTok.
1:50:48
So I'm like, cool, this thing's perfect.
1:50:50
And I was in that thing. I was just like, But then like,
1:50:52
there's no air in there. I took a nap for an hour and I
1:50:55
woke up. I was like, Oh my God, I'm
1:50:57
sweating so much, this is not worth it.
1:51:00
So I threw it out. Did you ever do the business
1:51:01
class upgrade like you don't buy will?
1:51:04
Every single fucking time we'll send a.
1:51:07
Picture every time. Once everyone's connected to the
1:51:10
Wi-Fi, you'll get a picture from Will of his nice dinner.
1:51:11
Do you do it? Do you do it at the gate?
1:51:14
You do it at the gate. Only so when I'm coming to
1:51:16
Europe I don't care because I'm going to get there.
1:51:18
I'm going to be a piece of shit, just come home and not be jet
1:51:21
lagged. So I would rather I I sleep.
1:51:23
I can't sleep sitting up like this.
1:51:25
Like I can't like very easily. I'm such a good playing sleep
1:51:27
after you have like 150 tools. I don't.
1:51:30
Know I could sleep in. I honestly don't need them, I
1:51:32
could just draw. Dog it every time.
1:51:34
Yeah, we were in Australia taking one hour flights.
1:51:36
I sucked the whole hour. Gave me your stuff like a raw
1:51:38
dog you gave me so you could raw dog you gave me.
1:51:41
You were like, here's your fucking.
1:51:42
I did. Here's Yeah, OK, so on the on
1:51:44
the way back. Choker on the.
1:51:45
Way back, what's your move? Are you buying that business
1:51:47
class in? Advance or are you?
1:51:49
Doing it at the gate so I will you can upgrade for like a
1:51:52
certain amount of miles and so I'll buy a normal ticket and
1:51:55
then. I will pretty much upgrade every
1:51:58
single time because that's why I do it.
1:52:00
I love going horizontal bro. I sleep.
1:52:02
I will sleep the entire plane ride and just drink the entire
1:52:06
time and then I'll wake up at home and I'll be like ohh what
1:52:10
time is it? Ohh 8:00 in the morning.
1:52:11
Great. I could start my day the time
1:52:14
that I. Normally would I?
1:52:15
Feel, once you do it, have you done it before?
1:52:17
What I've been trying to get the life that you can't go back.
1:52:20
It's impossible to. Go back but it's so refused.
1:52:23
If you fiance every. Place we go, oh, business class
1:52:25
this much. I'm like, no, but that's that's
1:52:27
you. Do the upgrade Upgrade is 400 to
1:52:30
$500 more rather than. 2000 to 4, that's what you got to do.
1:52:34
You got to buy. An economy and then either go to
1:52:37
the gate or depending on the airline on the app then upgrade.
1:52:40
It because then it's cheap as fuck.
1:52:42
I like, but I went once when I was doing some downbeat shit and
1:52:44
I was like, I'm going to buy business class in advance and
1:52:46
it's like 8 grand. There's no fucking really.
1:52:49
It doesn't make sense, so so do the upgrade.
1:52:52
Do the upgrade I need take a chance on one?
1:52:54
Upgrade on a different flight. Not that one I my go to like
1:52:58
Jet. Lag thing used to be when I had
1:53:00
it prescribed for being mental was I would do 2 melatonins, 2
1:53:06
Valiums, wow, and then I push your ass out and then I would do
1:53:11
that would be it, right? So I was at the airport and I
1:53:14
did. That I did my routine.
1:53:15
And then I got the upgrade. And then when you're in the
1:53:18
upgrade, you're not not going to drink the booze, are you?
1:53:20
So like, I forgot that I took those two things.
1:53:24
I mean, melatonin and drinking is fine, but Valium and drinking
1:53:27
is literally like, I think that's how my cousin died.
1:53:30
But I was like, and you're in a plane.
1:53:32
I'm in a plane and I'm like pounding Bloody Marys and shit.
1:53:35
And then I went to sleep. And then I woke up and my heart
1:53:37
was going like. And I was like, Oh my God, I
1:53:40
think I'm going to fucking die. Luckily I had a different anti
1:53:45
anxiety medication that slows your heart down and I pop one,
1:53:49
pop one of those and I was fine. And then like Googled it
1:53:52
afterwards. Like mixing Valium and alcohol,
1:53:53
it's like, yeah, puts a tremendous stress on the heart.
1:53:56
I was like, I was sick. I could have died.
1:53:58
However, kind of baller to die in business class.
1:54:03
Listen, how did he die? He was lying down, laying down
1:54:08
all the way on a. Plane.
1:54:09
Comfortable. Speaking of lying down, I'm
1:54:12
fucking. Tired.
1:54:13
You need to eat. We're done.
1:54:14
We're done. We're done.
1:54:15
We're done. Did you have fun?
1:54:18
Yeah. It was great.
1:54:18
It was great. Went by real fast.
1:54:20
I haven't been a long time, real fucking long time coming.
1:54:23
We've talked for years. I'm glad we could do.
1:54:26
This thanks for doing it. Gutted.
1:54:28
Mike's not here, not for the cameras, 'cause it's way harder.
1:54:31
To do for people but and honestly he would not do well in
1:54:34
this environment. He would be really sweaty and
1:54:36
you'd have to edit it. Ohh really?
1:54:38
He. He needs the skin care.
1:54:39
You would think that I would be I'm.
1:54:41
I was a little sweaty during certain.
1:54:43
Parts I can't hate. It in ohh Moke would have left
1:54:45
he. Would he wouldn't have talked?
1:54:47
No. Yeah, he would have been like,
1:54:49
it's interesting. The entire time we'll get him in
1:54:52
another time I'll. See him sweat later on.
1:54:53
Anyway, thank you guys Have a. Great show, have a great.
1:54:56
Rest of your tour, thank you so. Much this podcast.
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