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Withnail, Dean Cameron and I · Movie Meltdown

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Speaker 5: It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show. Our nuclear reactor pumping
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Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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Speaker 7: I'm Brian and this week we are joined by our
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Speaker 7: special guest co-host, actor Dean Cameron.
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Speaker 3: Now I've been a huge fan of Dean since I
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Speaker 3: saw him in summer school back when, well, I was
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Speaker 3: that weird kid in high school that he played. He
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Speaker 3: just played it with a little more style. But of
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Speaker 3: course I, like so many other people, went on to
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Speaker 3: watch him in many other movies like Bad Dreams, Men
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Speaker 3: at Work, The Amazing Rockula. He had a run where
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Speaker 3: he appeared in so many movies that became cult classics
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Speaker 3: and meant so much to kids like myself that grew
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Speaker 3: up with him watching them. And then they've been passed
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Speaker 3: on to new generations on cable and VHS and DVDs.
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Speaker 3: To the point where I saw a couple bring their
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Speaker 3: young daughter up to his table this weekend and explain
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Speaker 3: to her that this was the man that she'd seen
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Speaker 3: in that movie where the bunny rabbits were attacking his face. Yes,
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Speaker 3: he's influencing kids' lives even to this day. Influencing them
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Speaker 3: or scarring them, whatever. Dean continues to affect people's lives
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Speaker 3: with his work. Now, I had Dean on the show
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Speaker 3: for a short, basic interview segment back many years ago.
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Speaker 3: And those segments are fine, but for me, I really
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Speaker 3: like to sit down and just sort of have a
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Speaker 3: somewhat more normal conversation. And even more so when we
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Speaker 3: can just discuss a film, well that's kind of when
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Speaker 3: they come together best, personally, for me. And so I
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Speaker 3: was thrilled to have Dean come back and sit down,
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Speaker 3: join me for some coffee, and put together a great episode.
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Speaker 3: Now later we'll be discussing something I'd wondered about for years.
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Speaker 3: In fact, I know a lot of Summer School fans
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Speaker 3: have wondered about over the years. what happened to actor
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Speaker 3: Gary Riley, who played Dave? And of course, because he
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Speaker 3: and Dean were a duo on screen, so many people
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Speaker 3: over the years would see Dean and ask, hey.
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Speaker 1: Where's Dave?
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Speaker 3: Or whatever happened to Gary Riley? Which, as we said,
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Speaker 3: is a good question. Now, in fact, he had sort
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Speaker 3: of stopped acting for quite a few years there. And
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Speaker 3: actually this weekend, as we're sitting here having coffee with Dean,
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Speaker 3: this is the first time Gary has ever done a convention.
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Speaker 3: and one of the few times, as we'll hear, Dean
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Speaker 3: has even seen him over the years. So we'll address
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Speaker 3: what it was like being reunited with his former summer
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Speaker 3: school co-star, as well as what's going on in Dean's
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Speaker 3: life today, being a father, a musician, and getting back
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Speaker 3: into acting. So I'd say let's get to it, but first,
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Speaker 3: Dean wanted me to give you a preliminary note, or
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Speaker 3: somewhat a correction of what's about to be said in
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Speaker 3: a little while. Basically, when we get into talking about
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Speaker 3: this week's movie... Dean will reference a specific song and
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Speaker 3: a specific jazz musician. And later on in the day,
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Speaker 3: he realized the way that he described it isn't exactly true.
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Speaker 3: So he said, hey, if you drop in an intro,
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Speaker 3: go ahead and say up front that I misspoke and
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Speaker 3: this is wrong. So basically what he's talking about is
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Speaker 3: one of the songs during Withnail and I is a
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Speaker 3: live version of the song Whiter Shade of Pale performed
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Speaker 3: by musician King Curtis. Now, Dean mentions the very tragic
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Speaker 3: situation around that song and then its dreary connection to
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Speaker 3: this week's film. And as it turns out, it is
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Speaker 3: still sort of sad, but not in that way. There
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Speaker 3: are a couple of different versions of what happened to
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Speaker 3: King Curtis. I've actually seen on a With Nail and
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Speaker 3: I site a specific mention that the story is he
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Speaker 3: finished playing that live show, the music we're hearing right now.
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Speaker 3: only to go out in the parking lot of the
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Speaker 3: venue and get shot. So what we're hearing is his
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Speaker 3: last performance of his life. And I think that's the
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Speaker 3: dark and somewhat romanticized legend that sprung up around this
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Speaker 3: musician and the song and the movie and all of
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Speaker 3: this tied together. Now, if you look further into it,
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Speaker 3: I believe the arguable more real story is that King
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Speaker 3: Curtis recorded this very legendary performance. And it wasn't that
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Speaker 3: night in the parking lot. but actually later that same year,
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Speaker 3: after the album had already been released, that Curtis got
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Speaker 3: into an argument with a couple of drug dealers on
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Speaker 3: the steps outside of his Manhattan apartment. Basically, he was
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Speaker 3: trying to carry an air conditioner into his apartment, and
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Speaker 3: these two guys wouldn't move out of his way. A
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Speaker 3: fight broke out and ended with Curtis getting stabbed. Now,
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Speaker 3: not so romantic, but equally as tragic. But the point is,
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Speaker 3: he didn't commit suicide. It wasn't that same night. And again,
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Speaker 3: when I talked to Dean later that day after we
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Speaker 3: recorded this, he had checked on that information and realized
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Speaker 3: he'd misspoke and just wanted to pass along that specific
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Speaker 3: detail that that's not actually the story. But again, equally
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Speaker 3: as tragic, and it doesn't change the overall tone of
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Speaker 3: that story and that song and this movie. But Dean
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Speaker 3: did want me to mention that to you before we
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Speaker 3: got started. So now with that officially out of the way,
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Speaker 3: let's get things rolling. And as I said earlier, Dean
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Speaker 3: and I did get together for coffee, so you probably
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Speaker 3: will hear a little more weird breakfast noise going on
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Speaker 3: in the background than I usually like, but that's a
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Speaker 3: trade-off because in that process, this episode does bring back
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Speaker 3: the triumphant return of our caffeinated movie geek segment, so
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Speaker 3: let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: Coffee with Dean.
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Speaker 3: We can have a nice get-together and hang out, have coffee,
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Speaker 3: and Actually, this is not. We had a running theme
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Speaker 3: for a while that was like hang out, drink coffee,
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Speaker 3: discuss a movie. So this is actually pretty similar to
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Speaker 3: our caffeinated movie geek segment that we used to do.
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Speaker 3: So I'm trying to bring that back. We just need
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Speaker 3: more coffee-fueled film discussions.
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Speaker 8: That's what we need.
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Speaker 1: Because there's not enough of that in the world.
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Speaker 3: No, no. People talk about film over coffee. People don't
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Speaker 3: really like to argue over coffee or movies. There's not
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Speaker 3: much bickering back and forth on the internet either. So
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Speaker 3: we should be fine. pleasant place so we it's been
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Speaker 3: a while since we've we've talked with you i guess
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Speaker 3: what uh what have you been up to or uh
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Speaker 3: new projects.
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Speaker 1: In the works um yeah i've got uh i just
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Speaker 1: forget everything.
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Speaker 8: Are you still playing music yeah.
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Speaker 1: So every wednesday night i do this thing called karaoke
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Speaker 1: it's a live band karaoke and we used to Sort
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Speaker 1: of take the piss out of the Corys from the 80s.
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Speaker 3: You're down once.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's not as fun, man.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
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Speaker 3: The good one in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: We're always down one because he's Canadian. Well, they're all Canadian.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, Corey Hart. Always down Corey Hart. Anyway. Wow.
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Speaker 1: But I started working again as an actor, which is cool.
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Speaker 8: Seen a few shots of you doing work.
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Speaker 1: I did an episode of Masters of Sex, and that'll
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Speaker 1: be on this coming season. And then a new show
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Speaker 1: called Doubt on CBS. It's a mid-season CBS show with
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Speaker 1: Katherine Heichel and Elliot Gould.
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Speaker 3: Are you a judge?
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Speaker 1: I am a funny judge.
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Speaker 3: You've seen The Robes?
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not sure which is which. Probably
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Speaker 3: not Masters of Sex.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 8: Unless they're getting busted for something, which eventually is going
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Speaker 8: to happen.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Master of Sex is a cool, sort of sleazy... It's
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Speaker 1: a nice part. It's a good part.
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Speaker 7: Nice.
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Speaker 1: Small, but... There's a lot of... There are no small parts,
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Speaker 1: only bad ages.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good people working their way
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Speaker 3: in there. I think it's not like... I mean, everybody
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Speaker 3: knew about that show, but now that it's become what
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Speaker 3: it is, I see all these people who are trying
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Speaker 3: to get nice roles in there now. So I think
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Speaker 3: people are getting recognition out of that. Yeah, that's a
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Speaker 3: good move. So we also kind of... Usually kick things
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Speaker 3: off with what we've been watching. Have you watched any
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Speaker 3: movies lately? Other than the one we'll be discussing, which
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen many times.
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Speaker 1: As the father of a seven-year-old? No.
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Speaker 3: See, I was going to say, I can probably go
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Speaker 3: for around the same viewing habits, and I don't have
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Speaker 3: a child.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So that's the sad thing, is I was sitting there,
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Speaker 3: I was talking to Christine Elise, and we're sitting at
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Speaker 3: the table, And two over, there's someone, and I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I think everybody else is here because she's in a
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Speaker 3: Chucky movie. I know her because she's in I Didn't
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Speaker 3: Do It.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Which is a sitcom on the Disney Channel.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: And then she was like, really? And looked it up
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Speaker 3: on IMDb. Oh, yeah, she's on there. I correctly identified
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Speaker 3: someone from a Disney sitcom.
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Speaker 1: Oh dear.
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Speaker 8: I need help is.
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. It's not that bad. He doesn't like those.
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Speaker 8: So I'm worse than your child.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: He has better viewing habits. That's probably true, actually.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so any animated thing. Although I just saw Hell
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Speaker 1: or High Water, which I enjoyed.
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Speaker 3: I've heard good things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Of the new animated series. What was the new, that
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Speaker 3: one that just came out actually looked good. It was
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Speaker 3: the Coraline people.
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Speaker 8: Didn't see that one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one, if I had to pick an animated
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Speaker 3: movie right now, that one sounds really good. But again,
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Speaker 3: it's one of those, naming it something that's not memorable
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Speaker 3: is not good for them. Even the new Disney one.
10:37
Speaker 3: If you spell it looking like Mona, we're all going
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Speaker 3: to call it Mona. Don't call it that. We're all
10:42
Speaker 3: going to try to be Tony Danza. Just don't do that.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So they need to think about these titles when they
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Speaker 3: name these kids movies. All right, well, if we want
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Speaker 3: to get into this week's movie.
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Speaker 7: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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Speaker 10: To a delightful weekend in the country.
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Speaker 4: You are cordially invited to spend a carefree weekend in
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Speaker 4: the English countryside.
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Speaker 10: Bask in the warm sunshine. We've gone on holiday by mistake.
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Speaker 10: Enjoy the rustic pleasure of country living.
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Speaker 7: It's going to be so cold in here.
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Speaker 10: It's like Greenland in here.
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Speaker 11: Who wants to get down there and have sex with
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Speaker 11: those cows?
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Speaker 10: I'll take a fine varietal wine.
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Speaker 3: Go drunk.
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Speaker 1: I assure you I'm not, officer.
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Speaker 3: I've only had a few ales.
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Speaker 12: Get in the back of the van!
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Speaker 10: Take lunch at a charming pub.
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Speaker 5: We want the finest wines available to humanity.
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Speaker 3: We want them here, and we want them now.
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Speaker 10: Fraternise with cheery locals.
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Speaker 12: I don't care where you come from!
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Speaker 9: Ponce!
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Speaker 10: Experience culinary pleasure.
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Speaker 7: I can make it die.
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Speaker 4: There is, you will agree, something je ne sais quoi
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Speaker 4: about a firm young carrot.
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Speaker 10: Fish in the region's streams.
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Speaker 5: Don't threaten me with a dead fish.
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Speaker 10: Withnail and I, a trip worth taking.
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Speaker 7: What absolute twaddle.
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Speaker 3: So this week's Home for Theatre feature is Withnail and I.
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Speaker 3: The year is 1987.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: The director is Bruce Robinson, and the plot, according to IMDb, London, 1969,
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Speaker 3: two resting unemployed and unemployable actors with nail and bar wood,
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Speaker 3: fed up with the damn cold piles of washing up
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Speaker 3: mad drug dealers and psychotic Irishmen, decide to take a holiday.
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Speaker 3: We'll leave it at that, because IMDb does terrible jobs
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Speaker 3: on these plots. So, spoiler alert, hopefully by now you've
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Speaker 3: seen this. If not, go watch it. I'm sure we'll
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Speaker 3: ruin everything. So, this was one that... you wanted to
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Speaker 3: discuss and I've known of forever and haven't gotten around to.
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Speaker 1: Oh, cool.
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Speaker 3: So I kind of, it was another good reason. And
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Speaker 3: I felt like there's going to be a lot more
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Speaker 3: to talk about there. There were some other ones that
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Speaker 3: I'm like, we're just going to love on them completely.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't hate on Animal House. Animal House
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Speaker 3: is just kind of brilliant. So I'm like, it's just
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Speaker 3: going to be a love fest. This one, there's a
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Speaker 3: lot to kind of dig into here.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: I think what I want to get into is, did
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Speaker 3: you see this at the time?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: So you would have been relatively around this age. You
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Speaker 3: would have been, because I'm thinking back, because I didn't
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Speaker 3: see it at the high school going into college age.
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Speaker 1: Got it.
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Speaker 3: So I'm trying to decide if that factors in. Well,
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Speaker 3: it was a foreign film.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know where you were at the time
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Speaker 1: in 87.
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Speaker 3: We had a weird, like a little cult theater, a
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Speaker 3: one screen. By the way, they've bulldozed it since then.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, so I mean, I probably could have seen
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Speaker 3: it when it first came out. I didn't, but I'm
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Speaker 3: guessing it played at that theater because they were a
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Speaker 3: cool art house kind of thing.
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Speaker 8: So I didn't, but.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So you did, where did you see it.
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Speaker 1: The first time? I saw it at the, I think
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Speaker 1: the Beverly Cinema. Yeah. The Beverly, what's? There's a mall.
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Speaker 1: I just woke up, dude. You can't do this to me.
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Speaker 8: Once again, this is Coffee with Dean.
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Speaker 1: God, Jesus. The Beverly Center. Centiplex. Multiplex there, yeah. And
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Speaker 1: multiple times, because it's one of my favorite movies. And
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a long time. I think
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Speaker 1: probably 15 years.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I kind of want to get your take on revisiting...
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Speaker 3: And again, in a different point in your life. Cause
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Speaker 3: I think that's my thing. I, by the end of it,
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 8: I respected it, but I don't think I liked.
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Speaker 1: It that much.
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Speaker 3: And it's, I think it's because again, at the time,
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Speaker 3: maybe I would like, if I was watching it high
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Speaker 3: school going into college kind of time, maybe I would
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Speaker 3: have been like, yeah, these guys are right. Irving sucks.
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Speaker 3: I hate the world. Now I'm just kind of at
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Speaker 3: the point I'm, I think I'm tired of people complaining
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Speaker 3: all the time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of that in this movie.
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Speaker 1: I never looked at them as role models. No, definitely not.
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Speaker 1: These guys are horrible fuck-ups, and especially Richard Grant.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is it okay to swear on that? Oh, yes. Okay,
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Speaker 1: fucking great.
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Speaker 8: As much as possible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But just the chaos of... of the movie. And
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Speaker 1: there was, I read about it a bit and there's
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Speaker 1: some parallels to the end of the sixties and the
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Speaker 1: chaos of that and, and that, and, and.
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Speaker 3: The, we were kind of coming to the end of
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Speaker 3: the eighties. So they're actually shooting in a weird time,
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Speaker 3: about 20 years before a weird time.
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Speaker 1: So, and this, the, the music playing at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the, the beginning of the movie is a, concert by,
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Speaker 1: and I forgot the artist's name, but this jazz artist
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Speaker 1: who after that show killed himself. So it's just all
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Speaker 1: about ending stuff, which most movies are. They're all about
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Speaker 1: the ending of something or beginning of a point in
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Speaker 1: somebody's life.
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Speaker 3: Changing time.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Why are we making a movie about this? So I
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Speaker 1: just love the chaos of it and their performances.
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Speaker 3: Their performances.
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Speaker 1: Richard Grant. It's his first movie.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And pretty great.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. And then I had to sit there
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Speaker 3: the whole time going, that's not Doctor Who. Wait a minute. Actually, technically,
16:28
Speaker 3: then I went, oh, they both at some point played
16:30
Speaker 3: some sort of weird Doctor Who tie-in. But the only, again,
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Speaker 3: not a Doctor Who geek, if the people listening know,
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Speaker 3: the only movie we watched was that weird TV movie
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Speaker 3: that they made that Paul Gane is Doctor Who.
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Speaker 11: Oh, really?
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Speaker 3: He was the one-off for just that TV movie, and
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Speaker 3: that's the only time he appeared. There's a weird internet
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Speaker 3: thing I think he just popped back up on. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's the only time. He ever played him. Actually, it
16:54
Speaker 3: was a TV movie, but they were going to hope
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Speaker 3: to do it as a kickoff pilot kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: And then start the movie. This was before the new version.
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Speaker 3: This was right after this, actually. Maybe the late 80s
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Speaker 3: or early 90s, I think. So they were hoping to
17:09
Speaker 3: revitalize Doctor Who, and it fell on its feet.
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Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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Speaker 3: It's not a good movie. It's them trying to do
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Speaker 3: their thing, but they're doing it as an ABC movie
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Speaker 3: of the week. So there's like a motorcycle chase in
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Speaker 3: the middle of it. It's not what you need for
17:24
Speaker 3: a Doctor Who generation.
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Speaker 1: Some executives got a hold of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, this is American audiences. They want a
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Speaker 3: motorcycle chase. So yeah, it's not good. But that's really
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Speaker 3: the only thing I associated him with. So watching him
17:35
Speaker 3: in this, he's to be the understated one in this pair.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you at least kind of sympathize with him
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Speaker 3: because he seems aware of how bad things are.
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Speaker 1: Right, right.
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Speaker 3: He at least seems to be like, aware that things
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Speaker 3: aren't right and aren't going well and like richard e
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Speaker 3: grant just seems like he feels entitled yes like i
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Speaker 3: should be a superstar i'm such a gifted actor i
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Speaker 3: shouldn't have to deal with any.
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Speaker 1: Of this now he's a perfect self-absorbed actor unemployed actor
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Speaker 1: who can't believe that he's not working who should be
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Speaker 1: working because he's great you know because at that end
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Speaker 1: that final monologue at the end you go holy crap.
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Speaker 3: He's great yeah i mean that that by the end
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Speaker 3: there again that's kind of where it ties it back
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Speaker 3: up but I'm like okay this definitely has something to
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Speaker 3: say I have of.
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Speaker 10: Late but wherefore I know not lost all my mirth.
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Speaker 4: And indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that
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Speaker 4: this goodly frame the earth seems to me a stellar
18:38
Speaker 4: promontory it's.
18:42
Speaker 10: The most excellent canopy the earth Look, you, this brave
18:48
Speaker 10: or hangy firmament, this.
18:51
Speaker 11: Majestic old roof brighted with golden fire. Why, it appeareth
18:56
Speaker 11: nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
19:02
Speaker 1: What a piece of work.
19:03
Speaker 9: Is a man!
19:04
Speaker 11: How noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, how like
19:11
Speaker 11: an angel in apprehension, how like a god!
19:15
Speaker 10: Beauty of the world. Paragon of animals.
19:21
Speaker 3: Yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust?
19:26
Speaker 10: Man delights not me.
19:29
Speaker 1: No, no women neither.
19:33
Speaker 10: No women neither.
19:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, this definitely has something to say, but again, it's
19:39
Speaker 3: going about it in a weird way. It also sort
19:42
Speaker 3: of changes gears with how dark it is one minute
19:45
Speaker 3: and how silly it is like the beginning the the
19:49
Speaker 3: mountain of dishes and i'm kind of getting a weird
19:51
Speaker 3: young ones vibe yes which again that i was totally
19:54
Speaker 3: into at that point so i'm like i i could
19:56
Speaker 3: you know the the weird british stuff i'm fine with
19:59
Speaker 3: in but it's very specific little pockets it's like this
20:01
Speaker 3: i'm good on this i don't know So this is
20:04
Speaker 3: like they're kind of going for that. And then it
20:06
Speaker 3: will take those dark turns where I'm like, this is
20:08
Speaker 3: just depressing. So I don't know. I think at that
20:14
Speaker 3: point when they were just busy complaining, I got more
20:17
Speaker 3: interested in like the interior design. Like looking at their house,
20:21
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are these things? Because it's things that
20:24
Speaker 3: don't even seem like they match them. So I'm like,
20:26
Speaker 3: did they just move in and not care enough to
20:28
Speaker 3: put up anything? Because it kind of feels like. There's
20:31
Speaker 3: just old lady art on the wall.
20:33
Speaker 11: Yeah.
20:34
Speaker 3: Just random grime that's been there for years. So I
20:38
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time kind of looking at the
20:39
Speaker 3: surroundings in their house before they move or take off
20:43
Speaker 3: to the holiday. I guess. What is what is your
20:48
Speaker 3: take on it? Do you think your response at that point?
20:52
Speaker 3: Because you were probably I mean, you already knew at
20:54
Speaker 3: that point you wanted to. be a performer.
20:56
Speaker 1: I was working as an actor there.
20:59
Speaker 3: So does that tie into it, you think?
21:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot. I mean, I watched a
21:04
Speaker 1: lot of movies sort of projecting myself into the part.
21:07
Speaker 3: I think we all kind of in some way do that.
21:12
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have played either one of
21:13
Speaker 1: those parts. And actually, a friend and I wrote a
21:16
Speaker 1: script about two actors who get stranded on an island
21:21
Speaker 1: with these natives and who are growing marijuana and cocaine,
21:26
Speaker 1: and they're battling each other, which is very heavily inspired
21:31
Speaker 1: by Wolf Mill and I.
21:32
Speaker 8: So it's the two guys versus the natives?
21:36
Speaker 1: They both become leaders of each tribe who are warring
21:40
Speaker 1: with each other, and there's sort of a Kurtz figure
21:44
Speaker 1: playing the natives against each other.
21:46
Speaker 3: This could work. I'm okay.
21:49
Speaker 8: Sounds more interesting, actually.
21:50
Speaker 7: I like this.
21:52
Speaker 1: But that... And I was at... Xander Berkeley's here at
21:55
Speaker 1: this thing. I was just talking to him. He and
21:58
Speaker 1: I just did this night of Shakespeare in L.A. And
22:04
Speaker 1: there's a line that Richard Griffiths has, Uncle Monty, when
22:08
Speaker 1: he talks about the moment that every actor realizes he'll
22:12
Speaker 1: never play the Dane. You'll never... You go, I'm too
22:15
Speaker 1: old to play Hamlet. And... Because... we're talking about that anyway.
22:20
Speaker 1: So we referenced with Nolan. I, and I sort of forgotten. Yeah. Anyway,
22:25
Speaker 1: that's cool.
22:26
Speaker 3: You never know.
22:26
Speaker 1: It's a perennial for actors.
22:28
Speaker 3: I think you never know.
22:29
Speaker 1: Cause I, no, I mean, as he said, some people
22:33
Speaker 1: don't know they're too old to play the game.
22:35
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, sometimes it's just, if you can win
22:37
Speaker 3: the audience over, they don't bother with the mat. Cause
22:40
Speaker 3: that was another one. I talked to Ted Neely. Oh,
22:42
Speaker 3: he is still touring playing Jesus.
22:44
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know.
22:45
Speaker 3: I'm like, now as the story goes, I mean, he's,
22:48
Speaker 3: In his 60s, I think.
22:50
Speaker 1: Easily.
22:51
Speaker 3: So I'm like, which by the way, still looks amazing
22:53
Speaker 3: and still has the voice. But the fact that he,
22:56
Speaker 3: and impressive that night after night, he's like touring Italy now.
23:00
Speaker 3: But I mean, again, audience don't seem to care. They're
23:03
Speaker 3: pairing him up with a 25-year-old Judas and nobody cares
23:06
Speaker 3: because he's a big enough star.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to see Ted Neely play Jesus.
23:09
Speaker 3: You can skate in and yeah, I think you can
23:11
Speaker 3: make that work. So you just got to be so impressive.
23:15
Speaker 3: You'll change their minds about the day.
23:17
Speaker 1: Well, I started this year learning King Lear because I'm
23:24
Speaker 1: 53 and I figure my memory is horrible so by
23:28
Speaker 1: the time I'm 60 I will have ingrained it into
23:30
Speaker 1: my memory and probably be old enough to play King
23:33
Speaker 1: Lear if I have enough money to mount my own production.
23:37
Speaker 3: You graduate into new roles too.
23:39
Speaker 8: That's the good thing. So yeah, you just have to
23:42
Speaker 8: start mapping out.
23:43
Speaker 1: Leave Hamlet behind and step into Lear.
23:45
Speaker 3: Mapping out where you want to go.
23:46
Speaker 8: That's the point.
23:49
Speaker 1: Why not?
23:50
Speaker 3: I mean, there are some, within the movie, though, there's
23:54
Speaker 3: some great moments that, like, I get. Like, there's so
23:57
Speaker 3: much of it I feel like isn't even comedy.
23:59
Speaker 12: Yeah.
24:00
Speaker 3: And you just sort of take what you want from it.
24:02
Speaker 3: But there are moments, I'm like, when they sit the
24:03
Speaker 3: chicken in there.
24:05
Speaker 1: Yes.
24:05
Speaker 3: Just sit it up and, like, cross its legs.
24:07
Speaker 1: Right.
24:08
Speaker 3: He's just kind of hanging out in there. That was
24:11
Speaker 3: one of the.
24:11
Speaker 8: Few times that was just laugh out loud. Okay, that's
24:14
Speaker 8: so ridiculous.
24:14
Speaker 7: It's pretty damn funny.
24:15
Speaker 1: Right. And there's a thing with the bull, right? Isn't
24:18
Speaker 1: there something with them in a field with a bull?
24:22
Speaker 1: Don't they get chased by a bull or something?
24:24
Speaker 3: He gets out and then Paul's got to scare him
24:27
Speaker 3: back in there. Again, I kind of expected it to
24:30
Speaker 3: get more silly and slapsticky. He just kind of goes
24:33
Speaker 3: crazy and chases him back in there. But I assumed
24:36
Speaker 3: an entire bull chase scene would take place at this point.
24:40
Speaker 1: And then Uncle Monty shows up and.
24:42
Speaker 3: He's a great, I mean, that, again, not that he's
24:44
Speaker 3: not a great actor anyway, but, like, he brings something
24:47
Speaker 3: to it.
24:48
Speaker 8: By the end, it gets a little creepy.
24:49
Speaker 11: Yeah.
24:49
Speaker 3: It's just, no me, no Monty. Come on, like, lay
24:51
Speaker 3: off of it.
24:52
Speaker 1: It's that, I mean, having been around guys like that
24:55
Speaker 1: as a young actor.
24:56
Speaker 6: Yeah.
24:56
Speaker 1: Who are, like, just won't say no.
24:59
Speaker 8: And then finding out it's sort of based in the
25:02
Speaker 8: real world.
25:02
Speaker 9: Yeah.
25:03
Speaker 3: After the fact.
25:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
25:04
Speaker 3: Is it Zeffirelli?
25:05
Speaker 8: I think he said it was.
25:06
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. Based on his meeting. I had a
25:10
Speaker 1: friend who auditioned for Zeffirelli. And his meeting began with,
25:16
Speaker 1: do you fuck like a bunny?
25:19
Speaker 3: Hmm. Let me think how I feel about this role.
25:22
Speaker 1: And he was a kid too, which is awesome. Yeah.
25:28
Speaker 1: So 13.
25:28
Speaker 8: These stories about.
25:29
Speaker 1: But yeah. So, so that role, it was, I don't know.
25:33
Speaker 1: It just, for me, just the chaos and confusion of
25:40
Speaker 1: being a young actor. It just reflected that and really
25:44
Speaker 1: captured that.
25:45
Speaker 8: I think, again, this is what I always am taken
25:47
Speaker 8: with watching movies.
25:49
Speaker 3: And going back and watching, and like, I will find
25:52
Speaker 3: the thing that's not even a, not even a real joke.
25:56
Speaker 3: It's probably just something that they put in there for
25:58
Speaker 3: themselves because they're like, because again, what little I've done
26:00
Speaker 3: trying to shoot stuff, like I'm always putting something in
26:03
Speaker 3: the scene where I think it's going to be funny
26:05
Speaker 3: and nobody else will care.
26:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, always make it for you.
26:08
Speaker 3: The fact that at some point they're all wearing one
26:11
Speaker 3: rubber glove. Right. Our three main characters essentially always, somebody
26:15
Speaker 3: ends up wearing the glove.
26:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:17
Speaker 3: One of the three times makes absolutely no sense, and
26:20
Speaker 3: that's about all he's wearing is that one rubber glove.
26:22
Speaker 8: So that was one of those touches.
26:24
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't even know where you're going
26:26
Speaker 3: with that, but the fact that you made sure to
26:28
Speaker 3: insert that in there is hilarious.
26:30
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
26:31
Speaker 3: That part, yeah.
26:32
Speaker 8: I like the subtle things like that that don't really
26:35
Speaker 8: mean anything.
26:36
Speaker 1: And it also, I had, I think that year, the
26:42
Speaker 1: year before, I had gone to England and hated it.
26:47
Speaker 1: And England at that point was in a horrible state anyway. Wow.
26:51
Speaker 8: The Thatcher years?
26:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I also appreciated how awful they made
27:01
Speaker 1: England look. It was even worse in the late 60s, right?
27:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
27:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was cool. The mood, you felt how
27:08
Speaker 1: cold that apartment was. And how awful the getting away
27:16
Speaker 1: from the city was.
27:18
Speaker 3: It's fun. Again, just when you start to, because I'm like,
27:21
Speaker 3: I've been in Ambroke, and I've ended up living somewhere
27:26
Speaker 3: where the heat, not that it didn't work, I couldn't
27:28
Speaker 3: afford to keep it on most of the time. So
27:30
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I understand that life. But then the
27:33
Speaker 3: fact that they would turn around and go buy booze.
27:35
Speaker 11: Right.
27:35
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, guys, my sympathy is pretty thin.
27:39
Speaker 7: Yes.
27:39
Speaker 3: When you're still finding money for booze every other scene.
27:42
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
27:52
Speaker 12: Across fifty states of mind I didn't feel inclined You
28:02
Speaker 12: waited yesterday I.
28:04
Speaker 7: Didn't come your way.
28:11
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31:26
Speaker 10: How dare you come to me, like we're not for
31:29
Speaker 10: a favor.
31:31
Speaker 12: I hold on, I'm a fairy tale, you're.
31:34
Speaker 10: Trying to start Take off your old clothes, you're staying
31:41
Speaker 10: for the weekend And swaying like a smoky grave, I
31:47
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31:47
Speaker 12: The park A.
31:51
Speaker 10: Million cold diving in the snow, let the good times roll,
31:53
Speaker 10: let the.
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Speaker 12: Good times roll.
32:06
Speaker 3: The most impressive thing was that Richard E. Grant had
32:10
Speaker 3: never drank before.
32:11
Speaker 1: Right, right.
32:13
Speaker 3: That's the one thing that's so solid about that movie
32:16
Speaker 3: is how convincingly drunk he is all the time. Yeah,
32:21
Speaker 3: had like a weird alcohol thing and had never drank before.
32:24
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten that.
32:25
Speaker 8: I'd forgotten that, yeah. Very strange.
32:28
Speaker 3: The one that... The... Danny.
32:34
Speaker 1: Ah.
32:35
Speaker 3: The voice.
32:36
Speaker 1: It's a Kensington carrot.
32:38
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. Because it is one
32:39
Speaker 3: of those, like... I'm like... It can't be the same
32:43
Speaker 3: guy from Wayne's World.
32:44
Speaker 1: It is.
32:45
Speaker 8: And then I was like, eh, it's Dale Preston.
32:47
Speaker 1: That's what I love is he... Michael Meyer... Michael....
32:52
Speaker 11: Mike.
32:53
Speaker 1: Mike Myers, yeah. Liked him so much. Like, yeah, play
32:56
Speaker 1: the same character in my movie.
32:57
Speaker 3: I'm going to steal this character.
32:59
Speaker 1: Okay.
32:59
Speaker 6: Do you realize this gaff's overrun with rodents? When I
33:02
Speaker 6: come in, I see one the size of a fucking dog. No,
33:05
Speaker 6: that is a dog.
33:06
Speaker 3: Belongs to the fellow downstairs.
33:08
Speaker 6: Does his dog get in the oven?
33:11
Speaker 9: No, his dog doesn't come up here.
33:12
Speaker 6: Then it was a rodent. Opened the oven door, and
33:15
Speaker 6: it was in there looking at me. Quite freaky at
33:18
Speaker 6: the time. I was going to cook onions. Are you
33:22
Speaker 6: going to bed now? No. phone first thing comes the telephone.
33:30
Speaker 1: Squat betty.
33:32
Speaker 9: His agent is wasting his time because he won't be in.
33:36
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm sorry that's is that.
33:38
Speaker 3: Because it was that's why i said i was like
33:40
Speaker 3: not that it didn't look i mean like it does
33:42
Speaker 3: kind of look like him but i'm like he's playing
33:44
Speaker 3: it so close you wouldn't do that right like it
33:47
Speaker 3: wouldn't just be you playing you again but.
33:50
Speaker 1: Is the character name the same? I didn't look that up.
33:53
Speaker 3: No, I think he's Dale Preston in Wayne's World 2.
33:56
Speaker 3: So I think he's Danny.
33:57
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I guess he didn't totally steal the character.
34:02
Speaker 11: Right.
34:02
Speaker 3: Just the performance.
34:03
Speaker 1: Just everything. Yeah.
34:04
Speaker 8: Just everything else about it.
34:06
Speaker 3: And then I went, wait.
34:07
Speaker 8: As I was looking at him, I'm like, that's Rick O'Lay?
34:10
Speaker 1: Wow.
34:10
Speaker 8: He's from Star Wars Phantom Menace?
34:12
Speaker 1: Wow.
34:13
Speaker 3: So the weird career of that.
34:16
Speaker 10: Yeah.
34:16
Speaker 8: You didn't see that coming out of that guy either.
34:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:19
Speaker 8: Because he doesn't have any of those cool lines in
34:22
Speaker 8: Phantom Menace.
34:22
Speaker 1: Right.
34:23
Speaker 3: He has no rules, except, look at that.
34:25
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, movies my son watches, the Harry Potter movies.
34:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:29
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Uncle Monty.
34:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:32
Speaker 1: And so I can't wait to show him with Nell
34:34
Speaker 1: and I. Like, this is really Uncle Monty.
34:37
Speaker 3: This is what really goes down in the Potter household.
34:41
Speaker 1: Or not, or Ralph, whatever it is, the Weasleys.
34:45
Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, that.
34:47
Speaker 3: But yeah, with, All of those performances. Everybody completely commits
34:53
Speaker 3: to it. It's just a grim tale.
34:55
Speaker 1: Yes. And to your credit, my girlfriend at the time
34:58
Speaker 1: hated the movie. Hated it. And she went with me
35:01
Speaker 1: twice to see it.
35:02
Speaker 3: She really was hanging in there with you.
35:05
Speaker 1: There's no women in it, really. There's no love interest.
35:08
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a love story between those two guys.
35:10
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine those two getting women anyway.
35:12
Speaker 1: No, exactly.
35:13
Speaker 3: They don't even throw themselves at women.
35:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even discussed. It's just.
35:18
Speaker 3: I'm busy being miserable. I don't have time for women
35:20
Speaker 3: in my life.
35:22
Speaker 1: And having been that broke and unemployed, I wouldn't want
35:26
Speaker 1: a woman who would go out with me in this state.
35:29
Speaker 3: Maybe that explains my life.
35:30
Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
35:31
Speaker 3: It all comes together.
35:33
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. If you're so broke and in a
35:38
Speaker 1: loser period, just don't subject a woman to that.
35:42
Speaker 3: Let's ride this out.
35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because the woman you're going to get at that
35:46
Speaker 1: point is no damn good.
35:48
Speaker 3: She's worse than I am. She's willing to put up
35:50
Speaker 3: with me.
35:52
Speaker 1: What else?
35:53
Speaker 3: There's something I thought. As you went in, again, I
35:57
Speaker 3: looked a little at the other backstory. They said, I
36:01
Speaker 3: think it's Denise O'Brien from Handmade Films, nearly shut down
36:03
Speaker 3: the production three days in because it's listed as no, quote,
36:08
Speaker 3: discernible jokes.
36:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:10
Speaker 3: And it's badly lit. This is coming from the production team.
36:15
Speaker 1: Wow.
36:15
Speaker 3: No discernible jokes. I was like, well, I mean, I
36:19
Speaker 3: guess I wasn't alone. I don't feel like there's a
36:21
Speaker 3: ton of jokey jokes. It's all tone, and that's it.
36:25
Speaker 1: It's a tone piece.
36:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:27
Speaker 1: And the tone shifts. It does.
36:30
Speaker 3: I get back to wacky one minute, and then just
36:32
Speaker 3: grim the next.
36:35
Speaker 1: Sort of like life.
36:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
36:37
Speaker 8: Maybe that's why I had issues with it. It's a
36:39
Speaker 8: little too much.
36:41
Speaker 1: Too much fucking perspective.
36:43
Speaker 3: Escapism. That's what I want. Instead of hanging out by
36:46
Speaker 3: the wolves all day.
36:49
Speaker 8: But that is a great scene.
36:51
Speaker 3: I do like that. I also thought it was funny
36:55
Speaker 3: that this film is what prompted the Jimi Hendrix family
36:59
Speaker 3: to take back full control of his music. Because they
37:03
Speaker 3: did not like the... In which this one, I'm like.
37:05
Speaker 7: This is all alcohol.
37:07
Speaker 3: It's a little bit of drug use, but it's mostly alcohol.
37:09
Speaker 3: But yeah, they got to the point they didn't like
37:11
Speaker 3: it being used in their association with drug culture movies
37:14
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. But for some reason, this
37:16
Speaker 3: was the movie.
37:17
Speaker 1: That prompted it. This was the straw that broke the
37:18
Speaker 1: camel's back.
37:19
Speaker 3: They're just like, no, no more of this. Which is
37:21
Speaker 3: funny because that's completely unrelated to it. I do remember
37:26
Speaker 3: it's like kicking in with Voodoo Child. I'm like, damn,
37:28
Speaker 3: Jimi Hendrix is good. I took myself out for a
37:31
Speaker 3: moment just to like, I haven't listened to this in
37:33
Speaker 3: a long time.
37:33
Speaker 8: God damn, he was good.
37:34
Speaker 1: He was good.
37:35
Speaker 3: And so ahead of his time so it is it
37:38
Speaker 3: makes sense again that one's so like out of like
37:41
Speaker 3: you don't even think that it's the 60s really like
37:43
Speaker 3: it's so in its own little time and place yeah
37:46
Speaker 3: it's almost its own little world of grim like it
37:50
Speaker 3: minus a little bit of technology it could be like
37:53
Speaker 3: hundreds of years ago because they're so it's so impoverished
37:57
Speaker 3: really like it really does feel like just a timeless,
38:01
Speaker 3: weird little story in this British countryside.
38:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could be Dickens, turn of the century, paupers,
38:07
Speaker 1: you know.
38:07
Speaker 3: They're even kind of dressed like that. It has got
38:10
Speaker 3: a very weird, classic, grim British feel to it.
38:13
Speaker 1: I don't know.
38:18
Speaker 3: They did, I guess, lighten it up a little based
38:22
Speaker 3: on the original story. I'm assuming you heard how.
38:26
Speaker 3: Once the director wrote it, he wrote it as a
38:28
Speaker 3: novel or something to turn into a novel, hopefully, he thought.
38:32
Speaker 3: And at the end of that, he still hangs out
38:34
Speaker 3: by the wolves and makes the speech and then goes home,
38:37
Speaker 3: takes the shotgun, and loads it up with liquor, tries
38:41
Speaker 3: to drink out of it, and pulls the trigger. So
38:45
Speaker 3: it's even more grim at that point. So I guess, again,
38:48
Speaker 3: I feel like that's not making any point. It's just
38:52
Speaker 3: ending it grim for the sake of grim. Whereas this,
38:54
Speaker 3: I think... we get a nice little wrap up there
38:57
Speaker 3: where we get kind of like, you see one of
38:59
Speaker 3: them going, this isn't working. Like, I think even if
39:02
Speaker 3: the job didn't come in, he was to that point
39:04
Speaker 3: of like, what we're doing is not productive.
39:08
Speaker 1: There's no future in this.
39:09
Speaker 8: We need to find something else. I feel like he
39:12
Speaker 8: was going anyway.
39:14
Speaker 3: And maybe that leaving is sort of what prompts with
39:17
Speaker 3: nail to like, maybe do something about it instead of
39:20
Speaker 3: just bitching and wallowing in it. And, So I feel
39:22
Speaker 3: like it does have sort of that upbeat that I'm
39:24
Speaker 3: hoping as he walks off into the distance there that
39:28
Speaker 3: maybe there's some sort of hope that he's going to
39:29
Speaker 3: pull his life together. But certainly the original ending was
39:34
Speaker 3: not that way. That's a little more grim. But yeah,
39:39
Speaker 3: I don't know. I kind of liked where it ended
39:40
Speaker 3: up on that take. Again, I think the end.
39:42
Speaker 8: Kind of makes it come together for me. I do
39:45
Speaker 8: love the speech there.
39:46
Speaker 3: I love the wolves. I just thought that was a
39:49
Speaker 3: great touch. And then, yeah, just the fact that it
39:52
Speaker 3: does sort of end on a semi, as hopeful as
39:55
Speaker 3: you're going to get in this movie, a hopeful note
39:57
Speaker 3: for both the characters, I guess.
39:59
Speaker 1: It's a happy ending.
40:01
Speaker 3: A happy ending.
40:01
Speaker 1: With quotes and a question mark in there.
40:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a big pause halfway through. Am I saying
40:07
Speaker 3: the right word? Yeah, happy.
40:11
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's an interesting take.
40:14
Speaker 3: So I'm glad I've seen it.
40:16
Speaker 1: Good, good. Well, there's the follow-up movie, How to Get
40:20
Speaker 1: Ahead in Advertising, which is Richard Grant as an ad
40:24
Speaker 1: executive who's going crazy and grows a head in his
40:29
Speaker 1: shoulder who starts talking to him.
40:31
Speaker 3: I think I've heard about this, but I have not
40:33
Speaker 3: watched it.
40:33
Speaker 1: Worth seeing. Definitely worth seeing. Next. And you never know
40:37
Speaker 1: if the head is real or not, and it ends
40:40
Speaker 1: up taking him over. Pretty great.
40:44
Speaker 3: Is that really what happened to Richard here? Is that
40:47
Speaker 3: what happened to Richard E.
40:48
Speaker 9: Grant?
40:48
Speaker 3: Does he get taken over by.
40:50
Speaker 1: The Spice Girls movie.
40:52
Speaker 8: Hey, that's genius.
40:55
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets enough respect.
40:56
Speaker 1: A friend of mine wrote the first draft of that movie.
41:00
Speaker 11: Again.
41:00
Speaker 1: Got to hang out with them.
41:02
Speaker 3: It had no chance to ever be taken seriously, so
41:06
Speaker 3: everyone involved seemed like they knew it, and... I think
41:10
Speaker 3: their weird little commentaries are kind of brilliant because they
41:13
Speaker 3: knew how much of a joke they were going to
41:15
Speaker 3: be taken as.
41:16
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, obviously.
41:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shocked. It's like, yeah, it's like... And
41:21
Speaker 3: the weirdest cat's like Richard O'Brien's in it. Richard Grant. Like,
41:25
Speaker 3: it's like.
41:25
Speaker 1: They're sort of like head.
41:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just like we know... Like, they're just doing
41:30
Speaker 3: their ridiculous thing that they always do. And then all
41:32
Speaker 3: these surrounding characters are weird and have these, like, little
41:35
Speaker 3: in-jokes going on.
41:36
Speaker 1: Oh, cool.
41:37
Speaker 3: It's way smarter than you would expect from Spice World. Great.
41:41
Speaker 8: Again, these are the things I spend my time on.
41:43
Speaker 1: Good, good.
41:45
Speaker 8: Sitcoms and Spice World.
41:47
Speaker 3: So, you've... I was... kind of surprised. I know for
41:50
Speaker 3: years people have been bugging you about the summer school
41:53
Speaker 3: reunion there. The Chainsaw and Dave getting back together. How
41:57
Speaker 3: weird has it been? Have you run into him a
41:59
Speaker 3: little bit over the years? Because he hasn't really done anything.
42:01
Speaker 1: Not really.
42:02
Speaker 3: Convention like this.
42:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, no. There was a screening of summer school seven
42:10
Speaker 1: years ago at a revival house in LA. And he
42:15
Speaker 1: was there at that. Then I ran into him a
42:19
Speaker 1: couple of maybe four years ago at a screening of
42:22
Speaker 1: bad dreams showed up at.
42:25
Speaker 3: He just wandered in.
42:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. And, uh, but yeah, I haven't, haven't,
42:29
Speaker 1: heard hide nor hair of him and you know there
42:31
Speaker 1: was the death rumor yeah i.
42:33
Speaker 3: Know that's that's why i was like i didn't really
42:35
Speaker 3: want to even last time i didn't talk about it
42:37
Speaker 3: much because i know you just got hit with that
42:39
Speaker 3: every time you would go somewhere and be.
42:40
Speaker 8: Like hey where's dave i don't know leave me alone
42:43
Speaker 8: yeah exactly.
42:44
Speaker 3: Or is he dead like i don't think so he
42:46
Speaker 3: still lives.
42:47
Speaker 1: I knew he i mean i knew after a point
42:49
Speaker 1: that he wasn't dead because i'd gotten an email from
42:51
Speaker 1: him saying i'm not dead it's a good trick.
42:53
Speaker 3: If it was exactly even better that i saw a
42:56
Speaker 3: message exactly shook.
42:57
Speaker 1: His hand But, no, I haven't seen Gary in a while.
43:00
Speaker 1: It was nice to see him.
43:00
Speaker 7: Yeah.
43:01
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of cool that he's... And everyone,
43:04
Speaker 3: you know, these... This we were talking about with Christine, too.
43:07
Speaker 3: It's like she was talking about how this didn't used
43:11
Speaker 3: to be even a life option for actors. You know,
43:14
Speaker 3: it was the kiss of death. At most, you were
43:16
Speaker 3: a has-been Star Trek actor.
43:18
Speaker 7: Right.
43:18
Speaker 3: And that was it. And this is this new world
43:21
Speaker 3: that's happened now with conventions that, like, it is a
43:24
Speaker 3: legit business now. There are tons of people that... that
43:27
Speaker 3: has become their job almost. No, it's amazing.
43:29
Speaker 1: There are people, a guy next to me who I've
43:31
Speaker 1: never heard of is cleaning up. It's like, dude.
43:36
Speaker 3: We will leave him nameless, but I'm going to go
43:38
Speaker 3: figure out which one it is.
43:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to do some horror films.
43:41
Speaker 3: That's, I mean, all you have to find is your subgenre.
43:43
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, if you're horror, definitely horror, but
43:46
Speaker 3: even like sci-fi, like you can find a groove.
43:49
Speaker 1: Some zombie stuff.
43:50
Speaker 3: You can find a groove and like, can make a fortune.
43:54
Speaker 3: And then sometimes it's just an occasional gig for people.
43:58
Speaker 3: But you also find this weird fan base that's formed
44:02
Speaker 3: within the geek fan community that really kind of supports
44:07
Speaker 3: the fact that you guys come out and do these.
44:09
Speaker 3: There's some genuine love that kind of gets.
44:11
Speaker 1: Put out there. What's interesting and what's nice is before this,
44:16
Speaker 1: and even before the internet really performances were sort of
44:20
Speaker 1: in this vacuum. You get reviews and then the people
44:24
Speaker 1: you encounter on the street or whatever.
44:26
Speaker 3: Hey, aren't you in that one thing?
44:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that or whatever. And now it's eternal
44:31
Speaker 1: and it's nice. And then coming to these is sort
44:36
Speaker 1: of weird and I didn't do it for a long time.
44:42
Speaker 1: But seeing how we actually touched people and there are
44:47
Speaker 1: guys here who have because of you guys, I make
44:51
Speaker 1: masks or I do special effects, this and that. Like,
44:54
Speaker 1: that's very touching, very nice.
44:55
Speaker 3: Especially those characters, yeah. I mean, I think at shows
44:59
Speaker 3: like this, you get people that grew up and were
45:01
Speaker 3: the weird kids and, like, you didn't see them represented
45:04
Speaker 3: on screen. So now, like, you do kind of get, like,
45:07
Speaker 3: I think that was one of the first times it
45:08
Speaker 3: was like, hey, these weirdos are like me.
45:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the guys who did the actual makeup in
45:13
Speaker 1: the movie, they're Rick Baker's assistants.
45:16
Speaker 2: They.
45:17
Speaker 1: When they were... doing our molds and all that we're
45:20
Speaker 1: so excited for this because we've never been represented we're
45:23
Speaker 1: happy that finally somebody's talking about makeup geeks like you
45:26
Speaker 1: guys so it's cool.
45:28
Speaker 3: And and sort of made the movie reviewing idea cool
45:32
Speaker 3: like now there's a billion of us like the entire
45:35
Speaker 3: world does nothing but have their own dumb show and
45:37
Speaker 3: talk about movies but like thinking back like again the
45:40
Speaker 3: fact that you guys were kind of mimicking cisco and
45:42
Speaker 3: ebert right just old white dudes. Like that's all there was.
45:45
Speaker 3: It was talking to a couple of them, a handful of,
45:48
Speaker 3: you know, your Jean shallots in the world. And they
45:49
Speaker 3: had to be old and silly looking and, you know,
45:53
Speaker 3: it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't anybody that was kind of
45:55
Speaker 3: a peer or a normal person in quotes once again.
45:58
Speaker 3: But yeah, the fact that all of a sudden you had,
46:00
Speaker 3: these guys were doing it in their own language and
46:03
Speaker 3: liking their own movies, but they took it seriously. And
46:05
Speaker 3: they like, those were legitimately like, we love movies and
46:09
Speaker 3: we want to talk about them.
46:09
Speaker 1: Right.
46:10
Speaker 3: So, I think that was a weird little awakening, too,
46:13
Speaker 3: within the geek community that was just like, yeah, we
46:16
Speaker 3: can be ourselves, and we can be our own movie
46:18
Speaker 3: geek critics, and who cares what old weird people say?
46:22
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's nice. It's cool. And I was explaining to Gary,
46:27
Speaker 1: because he had no idea what to expect.
46:30
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah. Gone as long as it's been
46:33
Speaker 3: for him, you've got to be blindsided by this new
46:35
Speaker 3: world now.
46:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's another encounter that happens. You know how
46:41
Speaker 1: we build up celebrities and then tear them down?
46:45
Speaker 3: It is what we love to do in the industry,
46:48
Speaker 3: in this country.
46:49
Speaker 1: Some people do that on a minor level. And so
46:53
Speaker 1: they'll come up and they'll be mean to you. And
46:57
Speaker 1: I think it's subconscious. So they feel like that person
47:03
Speaker 1: is not as important to me as I think they are.
47:06
Speaker 1: Because that's why we build up celebrities and tear them down.
47:09
Speaker 1: So we have control over that thing, right?
47:12
Speaker 3: It's rare. Again, these are usually like any of these
47:14
Speaker 3: type of conventions. You do find a pretty decent group
47:17
Speaker 3: of people. There are the occasional one that are just like, well, again,
47:21
Speaker 3: whether they're here or anywhere, I'm going to be a
47:23
Speaker 3: dick today. And you will see them go out of
47:25
Speaker 3: their way to be like, dude, what happened to you?
47:28
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, okay. There's a weird little jealousy
47:31
Speaker 3: here because at least this person has done something with
47:33
Speaker 3: their life and you haven't. So it's like I'm going
47:36
Speaker 3: to backlash because the one thing you did was 20
47:38
Speaker 3: years ago. I'm like, well, it was still 20 years
47:40
Speaker 3: ago and he did something. So it's like sometimes, yeah,
47:43
Speaker 3: I think there's such weird jealousy or envy of any
47:46
Speaker 3: sort of life that you don't have.
47:49
Speaker 1: Or I've never heard of that movie. Like, okay.
47:52
Speaker 3: You're so enlightened.
47:52
Speaker 1: I've never met you before.
47:54
Speaker 3: I haven't heard of anything you've ever done, Jackass.
47:56
Speaker 1: Move along.
47:58
Speaker 3: It's weird.
47:59
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing. Yeah, I call them the has-been conventions. Again, though,
48:04
Speaker 1: that's changed. Again, yeah, it's a legitimate.
48:09
Speaker 3: It used to be the kiss of death, but it's
48:11
Speaker 3: not like that anymore. You look at people that they
48:13
Speaker 3: will pull in, especially now that you get the bigger conventions.
48:16
Speaker 3: I mean, they'll pull in A-list actors. When you've got
48:20
Speaker 3: them coming out to do Press for the New Avengers movie,
48:23
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is the top tier of actors now
48:25
Speaker 3: that are coming to geek conventions. So like there's different levels,
48:29
Speaker 3: but still like it, it, it now has found legitimacy
48:34
Speaker 3: in like the industry and just in the general population.
48:36
Speaker 8: It's, it's a new weird world we live in now.
48:39
Speaker 1: It's good.
48:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:40
Speaker 1: It's, you know, it's an interesting thing. If I, as
48:43
Speaker 1: a kid could have talked to Dustin Hoffman, you know,
48:48
Speaker 1: tweeted or seen every day what he was thinking, lose
48:53
Speaker 1: my mind, you know, or, or, I've seen naked photos
48:56
Speaker 1: of Farrah Fawcett and Lee Majors.
48:58
Speaker 3: Well, we can hook you up with those.
49:00
Speaker 7: Hold on.
49:00
Speaker 1: Oh, cool.
49:02
Speaker 3: Especially Lee Majors.
49:03
Speaker 9: Yeah.
49:04
Speaker 1: But, I mean, that's the parallel for my generation.
49:06
Speaker 9: Yeah.
49:07
Speaker 3: I mean, it is. Again, I return to this all
49:09
Speaker 3: the time. I wonder about what's happening with this next
49:12
Speaker 3: generation because they're so immersed in it. like we at
49:15
Speaker 3: least have that like retrospective i remember when there wasn't
49:18
Speaker 3: tweeting and now kids growing up are like from day
49:22
Speaker 3: one this is all they know so again what is
49:26
Speaker 3: this weird i mean that the celebrity thing is weird
49:29
Speaker 3: in and of itself but if you're a kid and
49:31
Speaker 3: you're immersed in you know that from from both sides
49:34
Speaker 3: i guess if you're just from the fan side of
49:36
Speaker 3: it Or, again, we were just talking about kids growing
49:39
Speaker 3: up in the industry now and having to deal with
49:41
Speaker 3: this newfound flood of attention and constantly everyone being in
49:47
Speaker 3: your business. And you're almost forced to make use of it.
49:52
Speaker 3: If you're going to be a successful young actor now,
49:54
Speaker 3: you better have a Twitter account. You better have an Instagram.
49:57
Speaker 3: If you want to get any response from anybody... So
50:00
Speaker 3: you're kind of, it's part of the industry now.
50:02
Speaker 1: It's one of the questions that agents and managers, like,
50:05
Speaker 1: how's your Twitter?
50:06
Speaker 7: Yeah.
50:07
Speaker 1: They check your followers and all that stuff. It's crazy.
50:09
Speaker 8: It's a weird aspect that's now kicked in.
50:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
50:14
Speaker 3: So, do we have advice for up and coming actors?
50:18
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
50:19
Speaker 3: Get out of it.
50:19
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it. I mean, seriously.
50:22
Speaker 3: Learn accounting.
50:22
Speaker 1: If you can do perform without trying to make a
50:27
Speaker 1: go of it.
50:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
50:28
Speaker 1: In showbiz do it because also the way the industry
50:33
Speaker 1: is now if you're in Norman Oklahoma where I grew
50:37
Speaker 1: up and making films with your friends you can make
50:42
Speaker 1: a living there not have to live in Los Angeles
50:45
Speaker 1: my wife is an editor and one of the places
50:48
Speaker 1: she worked at she works on a show called Major
50:50
Speaker 1: Crimes now but before that she was working at Maker
50:52
Speaker 1: Studios which they sort of distribute these internet people And
50:59
Speaker 1: studios like Warner Brothers would approach these content creators saying,
51:03
Speaker 1: we want to make a deal with you. And they'd go, no,
51:07
Speaker 1: I'm making a million dollars and I don't want to
51:10
Speaker 1: cut you in on it and give you any control
51:13
Speaker 1: over it.
51:13
Speaker 3: And I have complete freedom to do whatever I want.
51:15
Speaker 1: It's a pretty cool thing. It's a weird world we
51:18
Speaker 1: live in. So if you are in it, then make
51:22
Speaker 1: your own stuff. And it's weird. people my age we
51:25
Speaker 1: really struggle with that and i know young actors and
51:28
Speaker 1: they're doing stuff all the time i and they're doing
51:33
Speaker 1: stuff that's often no good i have a problem with
51:36
Speaker 1: that like i want to make everything i do at
51:39
Speaker 1: least enjoyable by myself but people just don't fucking care
51:42
Speaker 1: just put it out there and see what sticks.
51:43
Speaker 3: And that's what's frustrating is sometimes the worst stuff does
51:46
Speaker 3: the best which again that's always been true the lowest
51:49
Speaker 3: form of entertainment but Yeah, those are the ones that
51:52
Speaker 3: get a million dollars thrown at them for YouTube deals. Yeah,
51:57
Speaker 3: there's people legitimately putting good things together that you can't
52:00
Speaker 3: even get it out there to people anymore because of
52:02
Speaker 3: the flood of other stuff going on. So it's a fight.
52:06
Speaker 3: It's a whole different industry than 30 years ago.
52:09
Speaker 8: It's crazy.
52:10
Speaker 1: Even 10 years ago. It's nuts. My kid loves this guy,
52:15
Speaker 1: Dan TDM. He just does Minecraft. He plays Minecraft. And
52:20
Speaker 1: we watched Dan for hours. And we're going to MindCon
52:24
Speaker 1: next month. And Dan's going to be there. And my
52:26
Speaker 1: son is shitting his pants in excitement. And he's seven.
52:31
Speaker 1: He's this Dan guy from England.
52:33
Speaker 8: Well, and then just, again, back to the kids thing.
52:36
Speaker 3: Kids, the things that they're watching now, like my nephew
52:42
Speaker 3: was really little and was already addicted to watching these
52:46
Speaker 3: weird egg videos. They're mostly, I'm assuming Japanese, but I
52:50
Speaker 3: think I checked and I was right. And it was like,
52:52
Speaker 3: you would get these eggs and it was almost like
52:55
Speaker 3: an unboxing, but like you would buy these weird little
52:57
Speaker 3: plastic eggs and they would have a something in it
53:00
Speaker 3: and they would go through and open them and you'd
53:01
Speaker 3: see what was in it. And it was like hours
53:04
Speaker 3: of that footage. And he would just be zoned out
53:07
Speaker 3: watching those. And I'm like, what is this doing to
53:09
Speaker 3: your brain? And what is, and how much money are
53:13
Speaker 3: these people making for opening eggs?
53:15
Speaker 11: Yeah.
53:16
Speaker 1: There's a kid, there's a kid, I think, a couple
53:18
Speaker 1: years older than my son, who reviews toys. Like, oh,
53:23
Speaker 1: 13 million subscribers? Like, there's your college there, kid. It's great.
53:27
Speaker 3: I'm doing something wrong.
53:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
53:30
Speaker 3: Having actual conversations. It's not near as entertaining as opening
53:33
Speaker 3: eggs and unboxing toys.
53:35
Speaker 1: All right.
53:38
Speaker 3: Well, anything else you'd like to pass along to people?
53:40
Speaker 3: Any new projects? You're sort of acting?
53:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
53:44
Speaker 3: Anything else to look for?
53:45
Speaker 1: About the eggs. Four years ago, well, five years ago,
53:50
Speaker 1: Korioki played a gig, and the guy turned out to
53:54
Speaker 1: be an agent. And after the gig, he said, so
53:58
Speaker 1: what's up with your acting? I said, I'm not doing it.
54:00
Speaker 1: I work as a programmer. He said, why? I said,
54:03
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. He said, why not?
54:06
Speaker 1: I said, because the agents I had didn't get it.
54:09
Speaker 1: He said, well, I grew up watching you. And I said, well,
54:13
Speaker 1: I want someone who, you know, tried to get me
54:14
Speaker 1: the career I should have had. Because I want to
54:17
Speaker 1: get you the career you should have had. So he
54:19
Speaker 1: signed me and while I was working as a programmer,
54:22
Speaker 1: I started working, like doing one day guest stars and
54:25
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it was 2012. I booked seven
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Speaker 1: gigs without even really trying. And at the end of
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Speaker 1: the year, I turned 50 and my mom died and
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Speaker 1: my wife was trying to build this career as an editor.
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Speaker 1: And so she had some interest or these shows and stuff,
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Speaker 1: and our son was little, and I was just miserable.
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Speaker 1: Coming home, sleeping all weekend because he was depressed because
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Speaker 1: he was working as a programmer and no good at it.
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Speaker 3: Echoes of Whipnail and I.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So we swapped, and so I started pursuing
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Speaker 1: it full-time and writing and that, and so much happier
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Speaker 1: and working, and I'm making a living good enough for
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Speaker 1: a young actor now I can't support a family on it.
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Speaker 1: But I can at least buy my own food and
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Speaker 1: gas and stuff.
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Speaker 3: That's a start.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. It's good. And after a couple years,
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Speaker 1: so it's nice.
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Speaker 8: As soon as you put that kid to work, you're
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Speaker 8: going to have this all mapped out.
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Speaker 1: And that shoe factory. The electronics factory.
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Speaker 3: The nimble little hands. They can do all kinds of stuff.
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Speaker 3: Got to get this plan going.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you're back at it and happier. That's awesome, man.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. And I think that's about it.
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Speaker 1: Drive fast. Take chances.
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Speaker 3: All right. Well, since this movie changed the way the
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Speaker 3: Hendrix family ran their business, I thought as a tribute,
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Speaker 3: we'd go out with a little voodoo child. Otherwise, that
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Speaker 3: about does it. We will return next time. Same geek feed.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.
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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time.
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Speaker 12: I'll be right back to you one of these days.
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Speaker 12: I don't think you'll know more.
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Speaker 1: In this world.
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Speaker 12: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 8: Frappuccinos anywhere?
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Speaker 1: Take a coffee break right now.
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Speaker 2: There I am in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at 3
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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, looking for 1,000 brown M &
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Speaker 2: M' s to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go
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Speaker 2: on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head
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Speaker 2: round the door and mentions there's a little sweet shop
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Speaker 2: on the edge of town. So, we go, and it's closed.
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Speaker 2: So there's me and Keith Moon and David Crosby breaking
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Speaker 2: into this.
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Speaker 6: Little sweet shop, right?
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Speaker 2: Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody
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Speaker 2: great big Bengal tiger. Well, I managed to take out
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Speaker 2: the tiger with a can of mace. But the shop
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Speaker 2: owner and his son, that's a different story altogether. I
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Speaker 2: had to beat them to death with their own shoes.
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Speaker 1: Ba-da-da-da-da-da.
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