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Creepy People Chronicles: Shadow Figures & Ghost Sex · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  Speaker 1: My second ghost encounter. First happened late one Saturday morning,
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  Speaker 1: about two or three AM. My wife and I were
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: in bed watching a Law and Order SBU as one
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  Speaker 1: does some late night true crime to fall asleep too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when a ghost crawled up from the end
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  Speaker 1: of the bed. She was a Caucasian woman with a
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  Speaker 1: faint white glow around her and I could see through her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the most true crime thing ever
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  Speaker 2: because it's like she lit up every room she walked into.
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  Speaker 1: H Hi, Caitlin, Hi, Cassie, Hi, creepy people. Hello, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. I didn't wave. It didn't feel right. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I have to wave. I didn't do it either, what's wrong?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they felt it. I know, even though
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  Speaker 1: they can't see. I feel like they felt that we
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  Speaker 1: weren't waving.
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  Speaker 2: The waving didn't happen well, but we did it like retroactively.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: I think it still counts. You can hear the shake
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  Speaker 1: and the voice anyway. This is PNW Hanson Homicides, where
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  Speaker 1: we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things
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  Speaker 1: spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 2: And we also do little taro reading at the end
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  Speaker 2: of every episode. For a little bit of deeper insight
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  Speaker 2: into our topic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we do. And today is a Creepy People Chronicles episode,
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  Speaker 1: so we're actually going to do a tarot read for
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  Speaker 1: each story. But first we have just a tad little business,
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: tad a tad bit of business, tadpole business. We have
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  Speaker 1: three new Creepy People Patreon members, holy one of them
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  Speaker 1: from today. So you're lucky you got you snuck right
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  Speaker 1: into this recording. Holy cow.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about this one yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the one today's Jennifer, Hello, Jennifer, welcome, Hello.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have Laney who signed up for a
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: whole year.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, that's commitment.
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  Speaker 1: Tuck with us, you sucker ah. And then Katie Ray
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  Speaker 1: So welcome, Welcome, Welcome to our Patreon. Actually I have
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: a little well we'll talk to the Patreon about it,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a little something that is coming. Yeah,
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: so look out for that, you guys, but we will.
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  Speaker 1: That's personal between me, well us, but really me and Patreon.
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  Speaker 1: Something I need to apologize for. So okay. Also, before
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  Speaker 1: we start with stories, I wanted to mention the thing
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  Speaker 1: that you sent us in the group chat the other
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  Speaker 1: day of the message we got Amy, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if she cares if we share this. She probably doesn't it, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I'm I'm trying to remember exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you'll remember when I started saying it. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: we got a message from Amy about the Johns River
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  Speaker 1: Cemetery that we talked about in the Gray's Harbor episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently that's her husband's family cemetery. Wild and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: no one really knows about the cemetery, and she was
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  Speaker 1: she was like, girls, shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how that conversation started.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. And then we were like, huh, like
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  Speaker 1: what did we do? And then yeah, want to do it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was Amy, so I knew that probably she
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  Speaker 2: wasn't mad at us, but hopefully you know, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, if we've upset Amy, I just don't know
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  Speaker 2: that I can forgive either one of us.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly. Yeah, it turns out she was not mad. She
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  Speaker 1: was very excited that we talked about the cemetery that
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  Speaker 1: like nobody knows about, and she said when they want
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  Speaker 1: to go visit, they'll open it up for them to
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  Speaker 1: go in. So I didn't really know. It was like
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  Speaker 1: maybe I knew it was close to the public. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember, but apparently you're not supposed to just go there.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, I bet, I bet we could
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  Speaker 2: slide into them dms and get ourselves sweet sweet invite.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that would be so cool, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my appreciation for cemeteries. I would love that, And I
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  Speaker 1: want to see if it's haunted.
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  Speaker 2: You mean where they keep all of the dead people. Yeah, hmm, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: It was also kind of crazy because she said her
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  Speaker 1: her husband is related to Kurt Cobaine my marriage. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about him in that episode with yep,
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  Speaker 1: her husband's family cemetery. That's crazy, Like the connections are
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  Speaker 1: just connecting.
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  Speaker 2: It's just too much. Yeah, it's like the similarities are
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  Speaker 2: so similar, you know, so similar.
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  Speaker 1: And if you guys don't know, that was Cassie's late
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  Speaker 1: night writing. She literally wrote, the similarities are so similar,
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  Speaker 1: and that was embarrassing for me.
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  Speaker 2: Once upon a time, you really do. Yeah, on a
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  Speaker 2: road trip. She just casually drops it into the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Okay, Well, the first story we have
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  Speaker 1: I emailed to your email. I forwarded to your email
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  Speaker 1: so you could read it.
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  Speaker 2: This email is entitled shadow person parentheses.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe oh, intriguing intrigue.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, ladies, it's Clint again. I hope both of you
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  Speaker 2: are well. I've got air in my lungs and a heartbeat,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm doing great. Okay, Well, I feel like kind
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: of an asshole if we complaining about context for like
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. But I Clint, this is our reply of, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're doing ok ish.
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  Speaker 1: We both have air in the lungs and hearts as well.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's the the uh what's.
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  Speaker 2: That's the litmus test? The measuring stick? Like, we're right
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  Speaker 2: there with you, bud, got you. I've got another story
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  Speaker 2: to tell you. You can use it if you want to.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, we will, we will. We're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: On Monday January twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to say twenty sixteen, and I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: So this happened this year, Yeah, January this year, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Monday, January twenty six of twenty twenty six, a few
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  Speaker 2: minutes before seven pm. So it was dark. I was
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  Speaker 2: driving down a country road. It was snowing, and there
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  Speaker 2: was a couple of inches of snow.
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  Speaker 1: On the road. I was going sixty five kilometers? What's that?
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  Speaker 1: An American? We have to know because we are just
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  Speaker 1: not Canadian enough for this.
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  Speaker 2: We're just not Canadian enough. Okay, so that's about forty
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  Speaker 2: miles per hour.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get fast for the snow cliant, but.
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  Speaker 2: That does although he does know in parentheses speed limit
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  Speaker 2: is eighty kilometers.
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  Speaker 1: So he's he's slowing down for safety. Okay, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: gotta be safe.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, you send us enough stories, we start to get
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  Speaker 2: a little concerned.
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  Speaker 1: We're a little worried about you. We're invested in your
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  Speaker 1: well being and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, you know, a truck going the opposite direction
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  Speaker 2: was getting close to me.
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  Speaker 1: In the beam of his headlight.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I saw a black silhouett of a human
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  Speaker 2: head torso and what I'm guessing was a left arm
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  Speaker 2: and hand Ooh okay, so no legs, no, I will
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  Speaker 2: say no legs, but Clint says, I'm adding a pic.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you get a better idea of what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So clearly you've listened to the last story of that photo.
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  Speaker 2: We're very visual creatures, if you will. Yeah, it lasted
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  Speaker 2: a couple seconds then it was gone. I've gone back
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  Speaker 2: a few times and I haven't seen it again. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm questioning if it was a shadow person or my
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  Speaker 2: mind playing tricks on me. Thanks for reading, and sorry
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  Speaker 2: about that alien thing living in your head that's in mine.
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  Speaker 1: Stay great and safe. Clint. You're amazing. I know. I
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  Speaker 1: love that. I was. I was kind of hoping this
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  Speaker 1: would be like another wild creature, but it was just
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  Speaker 1: a person. Darn it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't Well, that's up for debate. I think it
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  Speaker 2: feels fair to say.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm looking at the picture.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Clint sent this picture right, m hmm, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: because he like literally created like kind of a snapshot
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  Speaker 2: so you can see like where it kind of would
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  Speaker 2: have cut off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh, I'm wondering like if the legs were
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  Speaker 1: were there or if it's because it was a truck
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't the light didn't shine on that part
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  Speaker 1: of it and it was so dark that you just
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  Speaker 1: couldn't see like the legs in the other hand, but
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  Speaker 1: like the other arm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're going like forty miles an hour,
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  Speaker 2: I guess my question would be, is is this perspective
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  Speaker 2: in the photo accurate because anybody going okay, and I
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  Speaker 2: said miles per hour. Sorry, I fuck that up. Oh wait,
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  Speaker 2: no it was it was forty miles at hour.
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  Speaker 1: We did the conversion. Jesus crusted.
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  Speaker 3: This is white kilometers, yes, but like going at that speed,
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  Speaker 3: if if this is like an accurate depiction, you should
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  Speaker 3: be able to see that person's legs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was further away. Maybe I don't listen.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of follow up question as per usual, my.
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  Speaker 1: Concern is like if you would have swerved, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: see he like swerved.
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  Speaker 2: At all, right, nothing about swerving.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe it was like a little further away
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just like a jump scare right in
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  Speaker 1: front of your windshield type of thing.
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  Speaker 2: This photo depicts it like this person was basically less
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  Speaker 2: than a carlink ahead of his headlights. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: have to imagine that Clint, knowing the visual creatures that
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  Speaker 2: we are, he went to great pains to create this
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  Speaker 2: and illustrate the experience for us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: he was just like I'm not gonna swerve, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna run through the shadow person.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, at a certain point, you have no choice
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  Speaker 2: because it's actually more dangerous to you and other drivers,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You like, if you would swear in like ice or
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  Speaker 1: something and then like went into this big truck that
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  Speaker 1: was oncoming right, That's what I'm saying. That could have
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  Speaker 1: been very, very bad. So I'm glad that, Yeah, nothing
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  Speaker 1: bad happened. And you just kind of saw this spooky thing.
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  Speaker 2: As someone that has perhaps in the past, uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the days of their youth, encountered unexpected ice, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the black ice variety, and then quickly changed orientation and
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  Speaker 2: lanes on a thoroughfare.
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  Speaker 1: It's not advisable.
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  Speaker 2: If it had been at a high traffic time and
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  Speaker 2: at a high traffic area, that could have been very
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  Speaker 2: very dangerous. I was lucky, I guess, just given the
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  Speaker 2: hour and the traffic. So I will say, sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: don't have the time to react like you maybe would
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  Speaker 2: in the ideal situation. I get the feeling that because
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, January, I think probably way up north,
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  Speaker 2: probably you're already aware. It's not my situation where there's
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  Speaker 2: no snow on the ground and yet somehow there is
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  Speaker 2: black ice. Because the unexpectedness of it is kind of
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  Speaker 2: like jarring, and you don't you don't react in the
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  Speaker 2: same way that you would as if you were driving
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  Speaker 2: through like an icy, snowy mountain pass.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm on Clint side.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, what whatever he saw, whatever he encountered,
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  Speaker 2: he handled it like a pro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy though. He just says like it was
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  Speaker 1: gone after a few seconds, right, and you didn't see
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  Speaker 1: it like run away.
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  Speaker 2: Or and he didn't hear a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, like what what else it
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  Speaker 1: could be besides a shadow person. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: your I don't know. I don't think your mind was
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  Speaker 1: playing tricks on you.
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  Speaker 2: But it's always were you really tired, were you malnourished?
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Were you on drugs? Clin drugs?
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Are bay out on code?
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  Speaker 1: Because like if there was something on I'm like, the
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  Speaker 1: only thing I could think of was there was something
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  Speaker 1: on the on the truck's headlight, like mud.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can I can foresee situations where there
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  Speaker 2: just might be just the right circumstances where you know,
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  Speaker 2: the light and other factors in the environment would just
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  Speaker 2: influence the visual in that split second.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Saying it's impossible, but I do think it's it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: unusual to get that close to something anything and then
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  Speaker 2: they're gone and you don't hear a cup plunk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the ghosts didn't end up in your back seat,
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  Speaker 1: right right?
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  Speaker 4: You got to check for that, Yeah, your rear view mirror,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: look in the backseat, make sure the ghost isn't back
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: there hitching a ride, because that's the thing ghosts, you know, yeah,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: trying to hitch some rides.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: And you know, in my situation, it was like the
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: ghost was basically sitting in my lap because you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: airbags when they deploy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, your airs went off? Yeah, I had.
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  Speaker 2: I had to stab one of them with my keys
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: so that I could get out of the car.
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  Speaker 1: It was really scary. I've never had an airbag go
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: off on me, so like knock on all of the woods.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I had never even like witnessed a car accident where
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the air bags had like truly deployed. I feel very
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: safe in my car now because I have the actually
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: like just the one year newer of that same exact car.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I had no idea how many airbags were in my
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: car until oh, they all deployed, and I was like,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I feel so safe and yet also so sore. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is really big, but somehow
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  Speaker 2: I kind of almost pictured it bigger. That's what she said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but I might have to I might have
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  Speaker 2: to dig out those photos.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know why I thought about this, other
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: than like just the idea of like an unexpected like
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: wintry like driving situation, like a crisis, I guess. But
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: when I went to go collect the handful of things
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: that I still had in my car from the tow
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: yard and I actually saw it in the daylight, like
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: two or three weeks later, I cried, Yeah, it was.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It was like one of those super commercials. I was like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I lived m And I was like, this was not, uh,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like crazy accident where I would have ever
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: thought that I could have died, But it like seeing
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: how badly like my vehicle was damaged was like really traumatic.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so scary to me.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: It scary, although I will say the other thing and
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it helped me and I already knew this, but I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: needed some time to intellectually like process it. But one
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: of the things about a lot of modern vehicles is
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: that everything is made to where it needs to. It's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: made to crumple, it's made to crumble, so that like
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: all of the parts of the vehicle where it's taking impact,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: like it's designed just to kind of like bubble you right,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just designed to keep the inhabitants of the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: vehicle alive. And I just felt very lucky to live
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: in a time where, uh that's the case, because I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: feel like there are times in early automotive history where
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you could have had a wiper blade fly off and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you lose an eyeball.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I always think of those
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like those test dummies in the crashes and what are
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they like in the commercials? Sometimes I feel like those
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: very traumatic to see, like that's what your body does
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: in a car accident, Like that is nuts.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you examine it through the lens. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: read a really interesting book and I will have to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: like look up what the name of the book was.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: It's been it's been actually a handful of years since
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  Speaker 2: I've read it now, but it was all about how
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: diagnostics and like research around like medical science and even
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: crash testing. Everything it's all designed around men so their proportions,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: their weight, their height, like.
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  Speaker 5: Even makes sense becaustics, right, even dosing instructions, they're not
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: ideal necessarily for a woman's proportions, and all of the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: things like take for instance, like there's almost no medication
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: that I can think of other than like a.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Tricycle birth control that accounts for women's menstrual cycles, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: medications can affect you differently at certain points in your cycle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they've actually done a lot of additional research and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: made changes to how they crash test, and now they
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: have crashed dummies that are like a lady size with
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: boombagee proportions all of those things because women were dying
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and their male counterparts were surviving crashes. That yes, so
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: so so interesting, But yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It kind of nerded out on y'all for a second.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I know this happens.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: This is what happens when I'm working on my second
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: glass of wine. And who knows where we're going to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: end up.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's a CPC. Well, honestly, in any episode, we
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: can end up anywhere. But you know, good, really good?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: All right? Should I draw hard for Clint? Yeah, it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: my moon oracle. So I'm like it's I don't know
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: if it's going to really answer any questions, but this
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: card is for you either way, whether it's related to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the story or maybe something you just need to know
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I like to think of my rants as almost being
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: like an oracle deck as well, like maybe somebody else
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: had a traumatic car accident recently or will in the future.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I hope not, but and they just needed to hear
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: about what it's like to process that experience. I don't know, Yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I'm a classic oversharer.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Or know that they're a little safer if they're a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: woman now.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they're a man who needs to pick up
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a copy of that book I read.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I had a popper, so let's go that one.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Give it to me byby. Well, this is interesting. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the card is called Beautiful, and it is kind of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like it's not a shadow figure, but it's it's kind
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of like a ghostly figure.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's like a woman in white.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: That like iconic. That's what the woman in white does,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is like, yeah, out in one of cars. Girl. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: just got chills me too. That is weird. I thought
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it was interesting that it was like not not a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: figure with a lot of detail on it well, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Of these cards, notably, it doesn't show the legs.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it doesn't. You're right, that's crazy. And it
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: looks like it's on like a snowy night too, it does.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just almost died.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I just inhaled so hard like that, I like made
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: myself have a complete coughing fit and think, whoa.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: That is crazy though, because I was gonna mention like
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the woman in white, and I totally forgot, and then
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you mentioned it. You sent it to me. I what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you sent it to me? Oh? Yeah, through my brain power. Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if you can see, like there's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: like little dots of white and it just like looks
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: like snow almost.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, And so I don't know if this makes the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: final edit. But I also mentioned in one of many
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: surely tangents of our recording session that the menstrual cycle
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and how modern medicine is only now just learning to compensate.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And I didn't even notice that there's red petals all
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: around her.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But what I'm referring to, look up up, look up
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: above her? Oh the moon, the moon, the full moon
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: cycle is above her too. Bam. Crazy that is so cool. Okay,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: call me Emeralds. Can you see it? Is Canada one
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of the places you see the Aurora borealis? Or is
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that just like Alaska parts of it? I believe so.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'll look really quick because that's what the card the paint.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It's Aurora boreality. Google tells me.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, Canada is one of the best places in the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: world to see the Northern lights, particularly in the northern
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: territories and provinces.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Ooh wow, why have you ever see the Aurora borealis?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: We need to know. I need to know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The lights are most frequently visible from late August to
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: mid April. That's like the whole fucking year practically.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Ooh wow, gosh, should we just move to Canada?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I know, Sorry, guy, I gotta I gotta go a pack.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm movin the I don't know. The black and white
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: image is interesting too, because it kind of I don't know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it looks like there's like light behind her, maybe shining
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: on her over here. I don't know. That could be headlights.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like an iridescent quality to it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's read. I don't know if this will
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: be about the story or not. Or maybe just like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I said, something Clint needs to know right now. So
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the card is beautiful and the quote is inner beauty
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: too needs occasionally to be told it is beautiful. Your
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: inner beauty is so beautiful, Clint. I love that you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: ran us all the time, and we will forever read
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: your stories, no matter what they say, no matter how
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: many emails we have. I love it. Keywords are enough, strength,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and value. Oh, you're very valuable to us.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: We love you, and you're clearly so strong, so strong,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: strong man.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Beauty is far more than your outward physical appearance. The
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: temple that houses, the temple that houses and cares for
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you is really quite amazing. Safely stored inside is an
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: endless wealth of thoughts, feelings, and heightened senses, all your
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: very own. I don't know. I think that kind of
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: answers this question, like is it all in my mind?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I think you just have and you can sense and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: see things that maybe other people can't see. But that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not real. Yeah, Beauty is found within
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: one's soul. Be cautious about the facade many wear on
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: their exterior shelves. Look inside the mirror of the soul
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to see true inner beauty. Care for your body and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: show it how grateful you are. Put yourself on a pedestal.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You deserve to acknowledge and appreciate your own value. Yes,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you are enough. Show your strength and continue to challenge
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: yourself in growth. The reward will be fulfilling, and your
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: inner beauty will glow, oh, glow like glowing that life. Ooh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that makes me think of what he said in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: beginning to like, I still bear my lungs and my
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: heart's still beating, Like yeah, that, take care of your shell.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Take care of that shell, my dude. Oh, the intention
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: is really sweet. It says, fall in love and dance
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: with yourself, be perfectly. You find beauty in life's little marbles.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so totally unrelated, but Charlotte has started doing a thing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: She's doing a lot of things, and she's doing a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: lot of things that are probably like somewhat common for
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: her breed, and she's being.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Socialized with a dog of the same breed.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: But she's doing a lot of Charlie things. And we
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: haven't actually officially talked about it on the pod, but.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: We said goodbye to.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Charlie in January this year, and I knew it was
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: just gonna have to be like something that you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: would just come up when I felt like I was
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: ready because I hung out with that dude for just
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: like casual almost eighteen years, so just basically my entire
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: adult life. And tonight Charlotte started dancing on her hind legs.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And that was a trick that Charlie did, and we
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: would tell him, dance pretty, dance pretty.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't ready, and ask me ifou I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: was ready.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: No, but as soon as you said, dance with yourself,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and as per usual, I am not crying, you are crying.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: And that I am crying.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Fuck, it's such a ridiculous accusation. It gets me that I,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: uh would be crying while we're recording, so a professional,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of course you can cry.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I cried and I had to tell everyone my dog
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: passed and I cried. So that's your turn.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's just my turn.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hate. I hate that we all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: have to have that turn. It's like the worst turn
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: in the fucking world. I know.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe Charlotte will outlive me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: It's sweet that she does Charlie things like the like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the little paddle. Yes, yeah, the paddle. Oh my gosh.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a there's a handful of things I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: trying to be good about. Like first, like she really
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: hasn't even met most of our friends and family yet. Still,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: so I'm trying to like post stuff on her little
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: instagram so that like our friends and family that follow
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: her can like feel like they are meeting her until
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: they actually get to.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I loved I love seeing videos of her.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: She's so cute, just so cute.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: She makes me feel a little bit more human again
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: because there has been so much ugly crying in my
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: house since you know.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know if you're new here, uh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and you don't know who Charlie was or he still is.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: He's still around, I know that, but he was got
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: pod dogs since we started, like yeah, him and Mollie.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: There's tons of pictures. I know.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I didn't like just do like an
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Instagram to photo dump and save my iPhone like iCloud
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: storage and stuff. But yeah, now I'm doing it for
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Charlotte because also when we came across the name Charlotte,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: it just felt like kind of.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know. We knew we had to.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Meet her before we decided because names are so personal,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but we were like, that just feels like she just
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: had such like a cute, little girly energy, and it's
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: like the Yeah, it's like a super feminine presenting at least,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you know, version of Charlie, which I actually think Charlie
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: is super cute for a girl or a boy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: But I know me too.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie was already taken, so she had to.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still mad you didn't name her Sandwich.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: But that's fine, I know.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I think about that a lot. I really I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: was really pulling for Sandwich.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But she's not. She's a Charlotte. She's really not a sandwich.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well, I will strike a compromise and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I will sometimes refer to her as potato.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a potato. Okay, should we move on
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to our next story? Let's do it. This one is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: just titled ghostly Encounter? Oh ominous? Is this anonymous? This
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: is ominous from anonymous? Oh my god? Okay, hold on wait,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I gotta move my feet. You might have to move
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: your feet. I'm putting them both in the chair for safety.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: All Right, you guys ready for this. I'm so ready
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're the only one that's read them like.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I know, and I am so excited to read this
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: on the show. It's like, Okay, a little background. In
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: winter of twenty twenty four, I was talking to one
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of my customers, a nice old lady who wasn't dressed
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: for the weather and was visually shaking. When she was
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: done telling me how much she appreciated my service, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: said to her, please go inside. I don't want you
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to get sick. Oh. I know, like about a month
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: or so later, I saw an ambulance in her driveway.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: No what, Okay, Well, I kind of forgot about that part.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I was so excited to read this, and that's sad,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it? Well, obviously spoilers, I don't know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: there's no more details. Fast forward to January twenty twenty six.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: January twenty twenty six. What everything's happening in January? Guys?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: We need more stories. What else happened this year? Okay? Wolf? Okay,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So fast forward to January twenty twenty six. I am
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: still making deliveries to that house. When I'm walking away,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I can feel a woman beside me on my left side.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I can't see her, but I know she's there. Okay,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: so I tell her hi and thanks for the visit.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Whoa oh, and then the feeling goes away. So apparently,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I assume she passed away.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're given to understand.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, so this is two stories and one. It sounds
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like I thought it was like kind of well, I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. We'll let you decide if it's all ghost
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: stories in one okay. My second ghost encounter first happened
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: late one Saturday morning, about two or three am. My
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: wife and I were in bed watching a Law and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Order SBU.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Of course, as you as one does.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Some late night true crime to fall asleep too, you know, Oh,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: when a ghost crawled up from the end of the bed.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: She was a Caucasian woman with a faint white glow
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: around her, and I could see through her.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the most true crime thing ever,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: because it's like she lit up every room she walked into.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And then she sat down and began writing me. Well,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I looked at my wife. No, no, I'm okay.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So I hate to be difficult here or like a
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: you know, spelling bee Champ from the sixth grade?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: But can you can you spell that for me? Writing?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: R I D I N G. Wait? Do I feel
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: it right?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was looking at the word. That's that's what
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I was afraid of. Okay, because at first, at first,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: there's there's an optimism for me in stories, and I'm thinking.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, how nice.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: She's sitting at the end of your bed and she's
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: catching up on uh, you know, her correspondence.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: She's writing, she's writing to you. Yeah, no, she will
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: ride in him like a cowboy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, because I feel like writing a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: letter on somebody else's bed is weird.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I assume. I assume this is a man.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It could be a woman either way.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Don't don't be writing me in front of my very
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: much a live partner, how rude.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's see what happens. Let me let me
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: find my spot again. Okay, Okay. I looked at my wife,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: who was watching TV still and didn't seem to notice
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the ghost. I however, saw everything, including my own private parts,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: so damn. Then private parts were just out. This ghost
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: was like riden and ridden. Uh, this is awesome.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I you know, never have I felt more like
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Mariska needed to chaperone and encounter than in this moment.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Seriously, though, I mean, it doesn't sound consensual paging miss Hargete. Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this has happened a few times when I'm driving, which
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that sounds freaking dangerous.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It's risky behavior getting.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Ridden while you're driving a couple of times when I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: was walking. Okay, is he saying like she's riding him
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: while he's walking and driving? You know? It does?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It does seem as though it might be a bit unclear,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and I do again, I have so many questions.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: That's when I noticed she's the only thing in my head.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Everything was happening in real life. So like I think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: he's trying to say that she's like no one else
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: can see her, right, so he's just seeing this happen,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: but he's like, which is going about his business, you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I and no one else's noticing it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It's hard to it's hard to visualize properly. And I'm
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: not suggesting that you should send photos up.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: We as we have. That's just to be clear.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's sort of an only fans situation and.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, I feel like I am wondering though,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: if if he's still like seeing like because he said
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: when he was in bedd he like saw his private part.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if he's still seeing that as
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: well when he's like driving and walking around, but like
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: no one else is seeing that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I can't reiterate quite enough that I just have so
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: many questions. I'm gonna I think it's probably best if
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: we finish the story, because I feel as though I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: tipping into the territory of like actual human combustion at
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: If I okay, well, you're going to be very disappointed
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: because I'm only one more sentence. Ah, and it says,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: do you think this is just my imagination? Or am
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I cheating on my wife? Which I do a lot
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: of the feelings about that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It's important to say that, like right off the top,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: you know, consent is key, and and I'm.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Not really sure how you go about.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Preventing or uh disengaging from this type of encounter, so right,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: cheating feels like a strong word.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I definitely wouldn't call it that because you're
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: not asking for it. It's just kind of happening to you,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: which man, I think you can maybe tell it to stop.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Not sure if that'll work, but you could try it
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: if you if you if you're not wanting it, Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: calm down.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Do you have cats? Do they have a scratching post?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Because maybe that energy could be focused sort of in.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: More of a you know, in that direction. Uh. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's an okay thing to say to
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a coast hm hmm. I think anything, I mean, anything
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is okay to say your ghost if you want it
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to stop, and yeah, maybe redirect its energy elsewhere, like
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: maybe you don't want her to necessarily go away if
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you're not feeling danger or scared.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Or My only hesitation with that is that, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I think like so many not strictly speaking, consensual encounters,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and this is sort of a you know, it's certainly
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: an unwanted advance, and you'd like to disengage from this.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's very common to then sort of reflect
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: on that and feel, you know, am I doing something wrong?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: That's a it seems like a very natural impulse in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: many cases, and even the language around it, like am
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I cheating? Is this infidelity? I feel like that's problematic
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: for me as I'm looking at this from an outside perspective,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: just because it's like, not only do I feel as
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: though this doesn't really seem to be presenting as infidelity,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: this actually presents more like an assault, and that opens
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: up a whole other host of problems. That's, uh, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: don't I don't like that. It's that's not good, that's
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: we're not okay with that. I feel as though it
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: goes without saying but for anyone that maybe could have
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: somehow remained unclear.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And I know that happens. I've heard so many stories
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: of this happening to people, men and women of ghostly Yeah, ghostly, Yeah, touchings,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and yes, go sex. Okay, it's go sex, you guys.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Paranormal eroticism if you will.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Some people like it and enjoy it and don't want
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: it to go away. And I'm not saying that. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is the case. There's no more
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: information from anonymous. But if you are enjoying it and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: you don't want it to go away, and you do
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: feel safe and like it's something that you enjoy, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: don't know, is that cheating? Like wow, I personally don't
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: think so, because it's a good welled here for a moment.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: If we could, I suppose maybe we should put on
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: our therapist pats and I would say that, you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: people write in with you know, Reddit stories about where
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: they're not having a physical affair, but there's sort of
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: an emotional affair happening, and I could see where even
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: if this was consensual, let's just put ourselves in a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: place where this is real, it is happening, and you
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: are an agreeable party to it. I do think it
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: is important that everyone in a healthy sexual relationship of
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: any form or fashion, that all all parties should be
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: fully informed.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, if.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: This were a sort of a polyamorous or an open
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: relationship type dynamic, you would expect a certain level of communication.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So I do think, you know, if if this is
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: something that feels real and something that you in a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: way are you know, consenting to, whether that's past tense
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: or in the future, I think, you know, the communication
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: is pretty key on that. And maybe I'm overthinking it
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: because I'm thinking about it more from the perspective of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: a relationship dynamic than I am from the perspective of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like a paranormal encounter. But I think, hey, listen, if
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: you got rules, the rules apply everywhere.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to your wife about it. Is that what
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's no such thing as what happens
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: in Vegas stays in Vegas. And I feel like, if
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: this is something that's real for you, then you got
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to have real conversations about it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, And.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a maybe that's a wild take, because this
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: is obviously very unprecedented territory.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I you know, I can't I cannot think of another
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: situation where, uh, this is a question that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I have heard anyone necessarily ask But just because I
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: haven't encountered it before, it doesn't mean that it hasn't
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: come up or that it hasn't been asked.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: What about what happens on the other side stays on
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the other side. I think I've made my thoughts and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: feelings known. Yeah, And it would be interesting if you
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: did want it to stop, and you asked the ghosts
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: to stop and it didn't, that would be concerning. I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: might then definitely like talk to your wife about that.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, Maybe, I don't know. I don't want to
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: give someone advice that's going to like ruin your marriage
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, No, But I think you know, from
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: an intellectual perspective, if you are open to the possibility
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: of the paranormal and potential encounters, you know, for hey, listen,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: this wouldn't be the first time that we have. I mean,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: there are people that have married a ghost, things like that,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you know, in a public facing way. I think you
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: know it's it's valid to at least have an intellectual
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: discourse on the topic.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been people that have been caught cheating
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: with a ghost by their partner.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Well, so there, yeah have it. So what happens on
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: the other side doesn't necessar.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Their release on the other side. I think we answered that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: My thought originally was, could it be the woman who
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: was walking beside him, who he like made deliveries too,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: who passed away in the beginning where he where she
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: like was just walking beside him and he felt her
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and like said hi. But I feel like he would
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: since he did kind of. I feel like he saw
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: this ghost that was riding him. I mean, he said
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: she was a Caucasian woman's like I assume he saw
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: some features. Yeah, maybe he would know if it was
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: her or not. But I'm like, maybe she like attached
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: to him and was like, oh, he is really nice
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to me. Let's just like go attached to this guy.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like my brain might explode, I know, I
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't like hurt your relationship or anything
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like that. A ghostly other woman.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Who knew new fear unlocked I know, right, Yeah, you
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: should ask Chris. Actually it's kind of an old fear
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: unlocked because we have frequently joked about Chris's ghost girlfriends
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: in the old apartment.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting, and I'm glad that you felt
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough to write that to us, even though I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: mean it's anonymous, but still it takes to share some
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: thing like that. Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: No, honestly, sharing your story is very meaningful.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And it could be that someone else is experiencing the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: same thing. You know, so you know you don't want
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to be alone in that, because that's that's a tough
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: one to be able to share with people and feel
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: like you can absolutely on it. Okay, should we pull
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a card and see what's going on? Most definitely? Also
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: before we pull another card. This whole thing kind of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: reminds me of like the White Lady situation too, where
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: sometimes they can well, I don't know if I don't
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: know if this is just like in Supernatural, because in
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Supernatural the white Lady ghost would like appear in the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in the man's car and like, oh, kinda be clurtain
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and like a little sexual. You know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, That's.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: What it reminds me of. So I'm like, does this
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: card apply to both stories as well? I don't know.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. I have shuffled the car, said
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: do you want me to let's do the thing where
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I spread them and then uh, I'll run my fingers
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: along and you'd like tell me when to stop. Maybe
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I'm running the fingies.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: You're doing it, okay, I think now.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, we got the card called magical, Oh wow, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it's a forest scene and it's got a big old
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: owl and a big old moon. The quote is your
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: sacred space is where you can find yourself again and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: again that's interesting sacred space because it's like this happened
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: in your bedroom.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, quite literally, a sacred space no matter how you
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: slice it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And that is one of the keywords sacred space. Guidance
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and enhancement, Oh, enhancementhancing drugs anonymous, Are you, by chance
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: taking any performance enhancing drugs? Because that might I don't
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: know if that would happen. I don't true. The ghost
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: is like, let me take care of this. Pya oh boy,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: four hours, I'm a ghost kind of a sleep well,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you know that is I guess possibly. The upside guidance
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: is interesting though, because it's like this person kind of
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: came to us for a little bit of guidance on
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: what to do. The interpretation says your inner light and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: vibrational energies are awakening your awareness or are they awakening
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: awakening horny spirits?
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Well, they did say vibrational.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Seriously, unveil your intuitive knowledge and release your powers by
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: shining this inner light. Enhance your mood and environment by
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: making a sacred ultra space, add touches of magic to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: your surroundings, or a specific area touches weird. This can
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: be as simple or as elegant as you wish. You
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: may want to gather some bits of nature, a candle,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: photos of loved ones, inspirational trinkets, or a cup of
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: your favorite tea. Oh, enjoy and absorb the space that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you've created. Allow it to assist you as you call
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: for guidance or open doors to other realms. Oh that's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting because I you know, we said like
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: maybe tell it what you want, tell it to stop
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: if you want or whatever. But maybe you need like
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: in addition to that, maybe you need like a little
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: magical something like anything to maybe help protect you or
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: maybe remind the spirit like, hey, this is not wanted.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is literally my sacred space.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you need to cleanse or something. Yeah, intention
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: celebrate your miraculous self, charge your spirit with all that
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is magic, candles, crystals, tea, books in nature. Well there
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you go. Yeah that is interesting. I'm kind of like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to like the evil or
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the bad places ever. Yeah, but I'm like I wonder
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: if maybe just like a little bit of something uplifting
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: or special to you might like deter if it is
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: something evil or like the bad intentions or yeah, malevolent,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: because like I know, evil things can like attach to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: like lower vibrations. So if you're just like depressed, maybe
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you're not feeling great about y, I don't know, it
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: could like attached to that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's yeah, that's a really interesting thought just to
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: sort of.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Work on.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Kind of I don't know, and I feel like it
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: sounds so maybe cheesy, but raising your own vibration in
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: a way.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: To yeah, not saying like this is your fault or anything,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: but no, I mean we all can't be I'm fucking
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: low ass vibration right now. Ghosts come to fuck me?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Where's my fucking ghost rerect? Yeah, redirects to me. Oh
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: my gosh it that was so cool. I just like
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: even though the story was kind of like stressful, like
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: distressing for this person, Yeah, it was interesting to hear
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: because we've never had a story like that before.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like it's a little uncertain and
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: uncertainty is you know, other than feelings, just uncertainty is
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: not something.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I cope with.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so that I feel like that's the part
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: that's troubling in a way where it's like, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: just the sort of not knowing and I have so
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: many questions? How many times? How many times can I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: say it?
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Right? It is interesting to like kind of deliberate and
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: discuss Yeah, something like this, what do you guys think?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have any thoughts? Any helpful information? Please know?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Please no mean information.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I will. I will be monitoring.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: A little bit just to see if people have anything
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: to say, like the Spotify comments.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: That's also a reminder. If you have any stories like
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I don't want my name attached
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to that or something. You can always be anonymous. That's
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: just right. And you can email those stories to PNW
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: hans and humsids at gmail dot com and he will
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: read them out loud, out loud into two your ear holes.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: That was me licking everyone's ear holes. You're welcome unconsensually.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: And now she's been canceled. We cancel now, have a
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: creepy day. We'll see you next Thursday. Oh my goodness,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: emphossis on the A.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Hopefully I get ghost laid by then. I'll let you
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: guys know. She's lighting the candle. I want it, Okay,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm asking for it. Don't don't be humping on people
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: who aren't asking for it. It's just not it's not appropriate,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: it's not nice. It is not the time in the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: world that we live in. It's not okay for that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: We really are humps and homicides now.