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DLHS Hour 2 | Panama Jailing Mothers Who Lie About Paternity · The D.L. Hughley Show

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  Speaker 1: It is the DLU.
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  Speaker 3: if you can. So this Panama has passed a law.
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  Speaker 3: that allows women who lie about paternity to get two years,
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  Speaker 3: two to five years plus a five. Jasmine, you think
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  Speaker 3: that the U.S. should enact such a law here?
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 5: I think, well, I don't know if it should be
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  Speaker 5: a law, but what I do think should be a
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  Speaker 5: law is as soon as you have a baby or
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  Speaker 5: even before.
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  Speaker 1: I know that that science does exist.
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  Speaker 5: I think if you have a situation where a mother
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  Speaker 5: is unwilling to name the father or if she's saying
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  Speaker 5: it is a father who is saying he is not
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  Speaker 5: the father or whatever the case may be, I think
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  Speaker 5: you should have DNA tests right away. I think you
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  Speaker 5: should have a paternity test right away, even if you're
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  Speaker 5: with someone, if you're married to someone. I think just
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  Speaker 5: to rule out any possibility of anything negative happening down
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  Speaker 5: the road, because I think it can go both ways.
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  Speaker 5: I think you have a number of women who do
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  Speaker 5: say that someone is the father, either because they really
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  Speaker 5: believe it or because they're trying to trap them. And also,
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  Speaker 5: I think there are a number of fathers who say,
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  Speaker 5: I am not the father.
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  Speaker 1: And they are.
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  Speaker 5: Even when you look at the stats in this country,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they say there's an overwhelming number of men
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  Speaker 5: basically don't want to be in the lives of their children.
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  Speaker 5: We've had any number of conversations on this show where
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  Speaker 5: we've had men who say, I don't want to be
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  Speaker 5: in the baby's life. So I think just to put
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  Speaker 5: all of that aside, I think just like how they
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  Speaker 5: do the newborn test on the baby, that prick right away,
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  Speaker 5: I think they should do that test right away. So
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  Speaker 5: there's never any question. And if you are responsible, if
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  Speaker 5: you are the daddy, then you got to pay. If
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  Speaker 5: you're not, you can keep it moving.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't even want to agree, but I agree.
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  Speaker 2: At least move into court.
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  Speaker 1: That way it takes all of the emotion out of it.
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  Speaker 5: If you're pissed off because that guy is leaving or whatever,
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  Speaker 5: it takes all the emotional stress out of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That way you don't have to have a law.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't got nothing but the facts. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: have to give it a fraud.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I do think that if she has lied and
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  Speaker 3: you pay for medical services, you should get restitution.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. I think it should go both ways.
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  Speaker 5: I think Just if you have lied about that and
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  Speaker 5: you said this man was the baby's daddy and he's
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  Speaker 5: been paying child support and taking care of this kid
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  Speaker 5: for five years or more, I think you should have
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  Speaker 5: to pay restitution.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the.
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  Speaker 5: Same way as if the father, if you are the
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  Speaker 5: father and you've been denying it, child support, you got
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  Speaker 5: to pay.
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  Speaker 2: You got to do it. They have a mechanism for that.
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  Speaker 2: That back child support. They got to make.
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  Speaker 1: They always had one.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So we should also apply to the female.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from that argument. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Give me that crib that I put together for you.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: Give me my booties.
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  Speaker 8: All of it.
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  Speaker 1: You got your booties. That's how I got pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get it. I didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I'm saying? When I say you,
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean you specifically.
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  Speaker 2: Give me my pacifiers.
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  Speaker 3: All of it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be coming to get it post-haste.
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  Speaker 3: All of the wall paper that I put up with
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  Speaker 3: all them baby pictures, baby images on there.
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  Speaker 1: All of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing white out.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: I'm bringing white out so I can erase that baby's
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  Speaker 3: my name off that thing. And I want my stuff
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  Speaker 3: in a box outside your Section 8 apartment.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to God I do. Don't do that. Don't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my baby monitor's in there, too. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Panama has passed a law, probably the first in the
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  Speaker 3: world that I've ever heard of, where a woman who
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  Speaker 3: lies about paternity can be jailed. They can face two
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  Speaker 3: to five years. Also, they can face a fine. Skip,
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  Speaker 3: do you think that we should enact such a law here? Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, definitely. I think, you know.
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  Speaker 10: To prevent that law, just like Jasmine said, you should
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  Speaker 10: have mandatory DNA tests when the baby is born.
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  Speaker 2: But going forward in this, yes, if you pay.
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  Speaker 10: Because if you don't pay as a man, if you
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  Speaker 10: don't pay your child support, they'll jail you.
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  Speaker 2: They'll back child support. They'll fine you and do everything else.
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  Speaker 10: If you intentionally deceive somebody and try to put a
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  Speaker 10: baby on somebody, yeah, get this time. Go and get
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  Speaker 10: this time and it's fine.
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  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 10: Went to the daddy-daughter dance and now I got plantar
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  Speaker 10: fasciitis now.
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  Speaker 2: Come on now, stop it.
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  Speaker 3: Now I got to tear half the picture up.
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  Speaker 2: What am I supposed to.
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  Speaker 3: Do with this ultrasound picture?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I done went through these visits.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the room with it.
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  Speaker 1: There's Panama.
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  Speaker 5: But there's also Germany that has a very similar law,
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  Speaker 5: as does Nigeria, UK and Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get on the bandwagon, man. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about that no more. That'll
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  Speaker 2: earn you law.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That'll earn you.
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  Speaker 3: The question we're asking, Panama has passed a law recently
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  Speaker 3: allowing for jail time for women who lie about paternity.
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  Speaker 3: Jail time at a fine. You think the United States
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  Speaker 3: should adopt a similar legislation? We're going to the phones.
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  Speaker 9: I agree with the law. I don't know about jail time.
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  Speaker 9: I think jail time should be the last resort.
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  Speaker 2: But I agree.
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  Speaker 9: I think there should be a law. There should be
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  Speaker 9: some type of punishment for a woman to falsely accuse
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  Speaker 9: of having a child and blaming on a man that
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  Speaker 9: she knows that it's not his child. Because look at
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  Speaker 9: the harm that she caused, not only the financial, but
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  Speaker 9: the emotional harm that she caused, not only to the child,
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  Speaker 9: but to the father himself. I mean, to go 18
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  Speaker 9: years paying child support and find out the child is
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  Speaker 9: not yours is devastating. I've never been there, but I
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  Speaker 9: can only imagine. I had a couple of friends who've
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  Speaker 9: been there. The punishment should match the lie that she
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  Speaker 9: has told because there should be some consequence, not to
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  Speaker 9: just walk free and say, hey, listen, I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 9: there should be some consequence. I think jail time should
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  Speaker 9: be the last resort. But, yeah, I agree with the law.
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  Speaker 9: I think there should be a law.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think they should incorporate that law.
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  Speaker 11: There's so many tests and so many things out now
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  Speaker 11: that you can pretty much tell who the baby daddy
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  Speaker 11: is before the baby is even born.
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  Speaker 7: And another thing, is it going to be retroactive?
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  Speaker 11: You have so many baby mamas out here that got
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  Speaker 11: so many men hemmed up in the past that went
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  Speaker 11: to jail, they had to pay child support. Even after
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  Speaker 11: finding out that the baby is not theirs after doing
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  Speaker 11: the test, because they signed their birth certificate, they are
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  Speaker 11: still held responsible until the age of 18. So it's
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  Speaker 11: going to be retroactive.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate that we even have to
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  Speaker 12: go there, but, I mean, it's definitely necessary because you'll
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  Speaker 12: be surprised at how many kids that's growing up thinking
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  Speaker 12: that somebody is their father that's not their father, and
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  Speaker 12: they deserve to know who their real father is. And
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  Speaker 12: on that same note, you know, it's messed up that
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  Speaker 12: you got a lot of men that's raising kids that
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  Speaker 12: they think is theirs.
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  Speaker 6: That's not theirs.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 12: It's a shame, but, yeah, I agree with that law.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I actually do like that law. Well, I was
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  Speaker 8: a single parent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not anymore.
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  Speaker 8: But I had an incident where I was going to
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  Speaker 8: pick up my son from high school, and these two
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  Speaker 8: young ladies were discussing how they were going to entrap
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  Speaker 8: their exes by... putting a slit in the, what do
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  Speaker 8: you call it, the rubber and resealing it back with
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  Speaker 8: glue in a rubber container and giving it to him.
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  Speaker 8: And bam, she was talking about she was going to
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  Speaker 8: be a manager at this place and then have child
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  Speaker 8: support on him or what have you. And I just
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  Speaker 8: think accountability has gone out the window with a lot
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  Speaker 8: of people. I feel that kids, the mother and the
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  Speaker 8: supposed father should be tested before they leave the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: It's only right and it's only fair.
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  Speaker 3: The question we're asking Panama is, Has adopted a law,
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  Speaker 3: they've put in a legislation that allows for a jail
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  Speaker 3: time two to five years for a woman who lies
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  Speaker 3: about paternity. And also, there can be a fine. Do
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  Speaker 3: you think that such a similar law should be happening here?
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  Speaker 3: We're going to phones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so my name is Danita.
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  Speaker 7: I'm from Columbus, Ohio, and I believe that they absolutely should, hands.
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  Speaker 5: Down, hold women accountable for lying on men.
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  Speaker 9: And tricking them into taking care of children that's not theirs.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Hands down.
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  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 7: That is such a great law pattern. That should be
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  Speaker 7: the law here, period. If they could throw a man
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  Speaker 7: in jail for nonpayment of child support, they should be
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  Speaker 7: able to throw a woman in jail for lying about
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  Speaker 7: the paternity. Because that is wrong, having somebody pay child
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  Speaker 7: support for a child that ain't theirs, and then you
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  Speaker 7: got to go after the woman to get your money back. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there should be a law here that the woman goes
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  Speaker 7: to jail flat out and has to pay restitution of
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  Speaker 7: child support to the victim. It makes me angry because,
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  Speaker 7: first of all, if you're going to jail somebody for that,
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  Speaker 7: then jail these men who walk away from these babies
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  Speaker 7: time and time again, these fathers who walk away from
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  Speaker 7: their responsibilities. Jail them, you know, fathers who walk away
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  Speaker 7: and never look back. Those are the ones who need
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  Speaker 7: to be held accountable.
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  Speaker 13: What the woman does is wrong, too, but accountability is
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  Speaker 13: accountability both ways.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I think they absolutely should draft it because having children,
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  Speaker 4: that's a serious thing. And we can't lie to a woman,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as men about who if they're the mom
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  Speaker 4: or not. I mean, it's forgiven that they know that
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  Speaker 4: they're the mom. We don't know if we're the dad.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's definitely something that no man should
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  Speaker 4: have to take care of a child for 18 years
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  Speaker 4: unless he absolutely wants to. So, yes, I think you
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  Speaker 4: should do it.
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  Speaker 13: I think they should have a similar law because I
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  Speaker 13: think it's very unethical. It's basically devastating to the father.
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  Speaker 5: You know, to be.
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  Speaker 13: Taking care of a child that is not his. It's
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  Speaker 13: one thing if they didn't know, but, you know, you
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  Speaker 13: should have some testing done. I've worked in labor and delivery, postpartum, and...
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  Speaker 13: I would say I would tell anyone to get their
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  Speaker 13: child tested because that would be very devastating to find
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  Speaker 13: that out later in life. But, you know, they should
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  Speaker 13: have laws and maybe people wouldn't do it.
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