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- 0:17Speaker 1: inching higher after a number of companies announced deals after
- 0:21Speaker 1: the Labor Day holiday. Energy companies making the biggest gains
- 0:24Speaker 1: as investors hope for a deal that could limit oil
- 0:27Speaker 1: production and send prices and company profits higher. Right now,
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- 1:00Speaker 1: stack up by three tents of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellot,
- 1:04Speaker 1: and that's a Bloomberg Business Flash. You're listening to Taking
- 1:09Speaker 1: Stock with pim Box on Bloomberg Radio. The shares of
- 1:14Speaker 1: Spectra Energy are higher by nearly fifteen percent today after
- 1:18Speaker 1: Canada's Enbridge says that it is buying the Houston based
- 1:22Speaker 1: company for a twenty eight billion dollar price tech it's
- 1:26Speaker 1: going to create the largest energy pipeline and storage company
- 1:29Speaker 1: in North America. Here to tell us more, Tim Low,
- 1:32Speaker 1: energy reporter for Bloomberg News. Tim, thanks very much for
- 1:36Speaker 1: coming in. Tell us Why does Canada's Enbridge want this deal? Sure, well,
- 1:43Speaker 1: thanks for having me. The primary reason is, you know,
- 1:47Speaker 1: coming out of this energy downturn that we've been undergoing
- 1:50Speaker 1: a lot of the pipeline companies, the midstream sector. Uh,
- 1:54Speaker 1: there's a sense that there's security and being bigger and
- 1:59Speaker 1: being faster, being you know, stronger should there be another downturn,
- 2:04Speaker 1: and this is a play at that. Uh. It would
- 2:09Speaker 1: you know, the biggest ever by by a Canadian company
- 2:13Speaker 1: in another country. So they're really sitting their sites pretty
- 2:16Speaker 1: high with this one. So Tim is part of this
- 2:18Speaker 1: that given uh expense, given all the regulator hurdles you
- 2:25Speaker 1: have to jump through, and then most famously Keystone Excel
- 2:28Speaker 1: being blocked that it's just hey, why try to buy buy,
- 2:32Speaker 1: especially if you're already big to snap up the existing
- 2:35Speaker 1: ones as fast as you can. Absolutely, it kind of
- 2:38Speaker 1: sort of like the old adage, you know, you don't
- 2:40Speaker 1: appreciate what you have until crisis hits. There's a it's
- 2:44Speaker 1: getting harder and harder to to build these pipelines, these huge,
- 2:48Speaker 1: massive infrastructure projects that can span half a continent, um
- 2:53Speaker 1: through whether it's environmentalist sentiment trying to prevent the projects
- 2:58Speaker 1: from being built, uh, regulatory hurdles. So um, there's sort
- 3:03Speaker 1: of a maybe a new appreciation for the pipelines that
- 3:07Speaker 1: already exist and as you said, easier to buy than
- 3:11Speaker 1: to build, Easier to buy than to build. Indeed, is
- 3:14Speaker 1: there any regulatory issue that we need to be mindful of. Well,
- 3:18Speaker 1: it'll have to go through all the usual regulatory um hurdles, um,
- 3:24Speaker 1: you know, shareholder votes. But the sentiment that I've kind
- 3:28Speaker 1: of talking to investors and analysts today is pretty bullish
- 3:32Speaker 1: on this. I think it makes sense, Uh, it'll be
- 3:34Speaker 1: good for shareholders, and there doesn't seem to be a
- 3:37Speaker 1: whole lot of concern. I just love what the Spectra's
- 3:42Speaker 1: CEO said, will be the FedEx of the pipeline business.
- 3:46Speaker 1: We ship, we pick up, we store product absolutely. And
- 3:50Speaker 1: what he might have added to that is you know
- 3:52Speaker 1: where exactly And that's part of the point, which is everywhere.
- 3:56Speaker 1: UH and Bridge obviously is a huge player in Canada.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Specter has been putting a lot of resources into assets
- 4:05Speaker 1: along the Mexican border. UH and they have, you know,
- 4:08Speaker 1: some of the premier pipelines in the US. So this
- 4:12Speaker 1: will really create a company. Some are calling it what
- 4:15Speaker 1: could be, you know, the first super major UH pipeline company.
- 4:20Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why they're doing this deal
- 4:23Speaker 1: because over the summer, the Canadian High Court next a
- 4:29Speaker 1: project that approval for end Bridge to build a pipeline
- 4:32Speaker 1: to the west coast of Canada to export their oil.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Some people think that might have something to do with it. UH.
- 4:40Speaker 1: And again it plays into the sort of theory that
- 4:44Speaker 1: it's getting easier just to you know, cobble together assets
- 4:48Speaker 1: rather than try to build new ones. Um. Tim, just
- 4:53Speaker 1: a quick comment if you would, on a story that
- 4:55Speaker 1: was brought to my attension but mostly today, but you've
- 4:59Speaker 1: already written your team started written about it last week
- 5:01Speaker 1: about a North Dakota pipeline involves four states, it's facing protest,
- 5:05Speaker 1: it's potentially it may not be blocked, but I guess
- 5:09Speaker 1: it just for our listeners who may not be following that. Again,
- 5:11Speaker 1: it just kind of illustrating why this is so important
- 5:14Speaker 1: to buy existing pipelines. Absolutely. In fact, there were arrests
- 5:17Speaker 1: made last week at some of the protests. It's the
- 5:21Speaker 1: code of access pipeline. UH spearheaded from Energy Transfer, which
- 5:25Speaker 1: is a company that you know, tried to follow a
- 5:28Speaker 1: similar playbook when they tried to purchase Williams Company last year.
- 5:32Speaker 1: That deal inevitably fell through, um and UM. But yeah,
- 5:37Speaker 1: so the sort of the environmental movement is more organized
- 5:43Speaker 1: than in the past. They're able to Keystone was a
- 5:45Speaker 1: prime example. And what did UH Trans Canada end up
- 5:49Speaker 1: doing after the Keystone didn't come through earlier this year,
- 5:52Speaker 1: they went out and they bought Columbia Pipeline Group, So
- 5:56Speaker 1: similar playbook. All right, well, Tim, well, thank you so
- 5:58Speaker 1: very much as you as a story develops, will look
- 6:00Speaker 1: forward to having you back on taking stock. Thank you
- 6:02Speaker 1: so much. Energy reporter for Bloomberg News. Now let's get
- 6:05Speaker 1: to Mark n Catt, Government reporter for Bloomberg News in Columbus,
- 6:08Speaker 1: Ohio today, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton getting ready to go
- 6:12Speaker 1: to battle in the battleground states. Two months now left
- 6:17Speaker 1: before the election. This is Clutch time mark welcome back. So, uh,
- 6:21Speaker 1: where what are you seeing today? Who are you talking to? Well,
- 6:25Speaker 1: we're kind of following up the Labor Day unofficial kickoff
- 6:28Speaker 1: of the final sprint to the election. Obviously we have
- 6:33Speaker 1: a much longer campaign cycle, but you know, traditionally a
- 6:36Speaker 1: lot of people start paying attention after the summer vacations
- 6:39Speaker 1: and are over in school starts after Labor Day, and
- 6:42Speaker 1: we're sort of following what states the campaigns are targeting. Um. Today,
- 6:47Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in the battleground states of Virginia and
- 6:50Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hillary Clinton is in Florida. But yesterday all
- 6:54Speaker 1: four principles on both sides were in Ohio, maybe the
- 6:57Speaker 1: key battleground states and former as in Bill Clinton was
- 7:00Speaker 1: also in Ohio yesterday sort of for Labor Day events.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And what we're seeing is sort of the map really
- 7:07Speaker 1: sort of focused on the key states are going to
- 7:09Speaker 1: really decide this election, and in the case of Donald Trump,
- 7:12Speaker 1: particularly in the industrial Midwest states like Ohio and Pennsylvania,
- 7:15Speaker 1: that he really needs to win if he's gonna get
- 7:19Speaker 1: electoral votes needed to win the presidency. Mark, there are
- 7:23Speaker 1: what sixty four days to go before the election, in
- 7:26Speaker 1: just seventeen days before the first early voting begins. What
- 7:31Speaker 1: kind of organization does Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have,
- 7:35Speaker 1: let's say, in Florida right now. Well, we're seeing stories emerged,
- 7:39Speaker 1: including one that my colleagues at Bloomberg Politics put out
- 7:43Speaker 1: the last week, that suggests Donald Trump is far behind
- 7:47Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in terms of the so called ground game.
- 7:50Speaker 1: This is the get out to vote machinery, registering voters
- 7:54Speaker 1: and getting your supporters to the polls, including getting folks
- 7:57Speaker 1: to vote early to bank those votes. And the reporting
- 8:00Speaker 1: we're seeing on the ground is that, you know, Hillary
- 8:03Speaker 1: Clinton has a pretty robust campaign organization and state like
- 8:07Speaker 1: Florida and also in Ohio where I'm based, in some
- 8:10Speaker 1: cases just sort of uh taking and expanding the ground
- 8:15Speaker 1: game operation that Barack Obama ran in two thousand and
- 8:18Speaker 1: eight and two thousand twelve in those states, and Trump
- 8:20Speaker 1: is behind trying to sort of gear up uh ground
- 8:24Speaker 1: game operations in these states, in part because Trump is
- 8:27Speaker 1: sort of outsourced the ground game activity that a campaign
- 8:31Speaker 1: usually coordinates or or uh participates into the Republican National
- 8:36Speaker 1: Committee or the Republican parties in these states. And that
- 8:38Speaker 1: just means it was a late start and also fewer
- 8:41Speaker 1: resources that are being devoted to the ground game, Mark,
- 8:44Speaker 1: can you tell? Um? And then as you look at
- 8:47Speaker 1: the battleground states and what Hillary Clinton is doing now,
- 8:50Speaker 1: she was sort of pulling back and raising a lot
- 8:52Speaker 1: of money. Now she's going to come out swinging again.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Are are she being asked much about the latest FBI
- 8:58Speaker 1: memo on her email us? Just this is it only
- 9:01Speaker 1: you know, political junkies and reporters who are so interested
- 9:04Speaker 1: in this is voting public to get a sense that
- 9:06Speaker 1: they are paying attention to this, we'll see. I mean,
- 9:08Speaker 1: I think you're right, there's there's a there's a sense
- 9:10Speaker 1: that a lot of this has already baked in that
- 9:13Speaker 1: you know, the people who are paying attention have already
- 9:16Speaker 1: accounted for this. Either they care or they don't care
- 9:18Speaker 1: about the email scandals involving Hillary Clinton and also the
- 9:22Speaker 1: questions about her involvement with the Clinton Foundation and her
- 9:25Speaker 1: time as Secretary of State. But like I said before,
- 9:28Speaker 1: we were sort of the phase of the campaign now
- 9:30Speaker 1: where you know, people who haven't been paying attention and
- 9:33Speaker 1: not unlike political junkies you know, living and breathing this campaign,
- 9:36Speaker 1: are really sort of looking and tuning in for the
- 9:38Speaker 1: first time. UM. And we'll see, if you know, how
- 9:41Speaker 1: much way those particular issues have on them. And I
- 9:45Speaker 1: think a lot is going to be determined, frankly by
- 9:47Speaker 1: the debates this cycle. Um. A lot of voters already
- 9:51Speaker 1: know Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and to the extent
- 9:53Speaker 1: that they haven't paid attention, I think the debates will
- 9:57Speaker 1: will help crystallize for them, you know, one way or
- 9:59Speaker 1: the other, how they feel about the issues that are
- 10:02Speaker 1: important or help them decide the race, including you know,
- 10:06Speaker 1: their views about the email situation with Hillary Clinton and
- 10:09Speaker 1: as well as the use of the Clinton Foundation. Just
- 10:13Speaker 1: quickly market third parties, whether it be libertarian or Green Party,
- 10:17Speaker 1: Are they going to have an effect on the election results?
- 10:19Speaker 1: They could, And they're sort of a parlor game going
- 10:22Speaker 1: on right now to determine sort of who do they hurt?
- 10:25Speaker 1: If if you sort of start from the premise that
- 10:27Speaker 1: you know, it's unlikely a third party candidate could win
- 10:29Speaker 1: an election, you know, where does the votes go or
- 10:33Speaker 1: come from? Uh? If if it will goes to a
- 10:35Speaker 1: Green Party or libertarian, does it pull votes from Hillary Clinton,
- 10:39Speaker 1: for example, or help Donald Trump? UM and and we're
- 10:42Speaker 1: starting to see, you know, analysis, even at the state
- 10:44Speaker 1: level and in these battleground states about you know what
- 10:47Speaker 1: impact the third party vote can have. Thanks very much
- 10:50Speaker 1: for joining us. Mark and Nutt is a government reporter
- 10:53Speaker 1: for Bloomberg News. He's joining us from the battle ground
- 10:56Speaker 1: state of Ohio. He's in Columbus. He can be followed
- 11:00Speaker 1: on Twitter at m niquette. You're listening to taking Stock.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I'm pim Fox, my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this
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