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209 | In Your House 13: Final Four - Feb 16, 1997 · The ExtraCooler Show

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  Welcome to the Western Show. You continue to talk like you're
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  talking right now, and you'll be history on this program.
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  Like, yeah. Cooler show.
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  Nobody eats beef or only on a boat, man.
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  That's a problem Yokozuna blew my.
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  Mind. Every time I see your lady.
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  I'm gonna kick. Her on those points.
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  Baby. Crap, let's go.
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  I've got under your skin. I'm ready this episode now.
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  Yeah, welcome back. I think I jumped the gun there
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  because it's been a while. To your favorite nostalgic
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  wrestling podcast. This is the Extra Cooler show.
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  My name is Nick, otherwise known as Extra Cooler, and I've got
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  Vader Undertaker. Yes, I like that.
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  Wait, who's who? You'd have to be Brett because
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  of the lineage. All right, I've got to grease my
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  hair up. Yes.
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  I was worried you were going to throw me to to be Brett and I
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  just thought it was going to be a cruel joke, but.
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  No. Don't, don't.
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  All right, you can be Vader. It's nice.
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  And Mike, you're the dead man. Awesome.
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  All right anyway, as usual, you can find us on Instagram at
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  extra cooler and at the extra cooler show.
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  Join us over on our discord channel, which you can find in
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  the show notes. Thank you guys for listening to
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  our draft special. It was the criteria was all over
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  the place, but man, it was so much fun.
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  And yeah. I could draft every episode if
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  you wanted me to. Oh wow.
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  I'm I'm on team Mike, you work. On board.
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  Oh my God you just gooed everywhere.
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  It's just a it's just a mock draft show now all.
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  Right, so. Let's draft hot dog condiments,
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  yeah? Oh.
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  Man. Now you're trying to put me
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  into. Oh, man, you're setting me up.
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  Yeah, setting me up. All right.
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  So we have no official housekeeping from our draft
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  episode, but if you want some ridiculousness, that is the
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  extra cooler show, definitely go back an episode and listen to
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  that after you're done with this one.
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  But I, I feel like there's a few things that are are interesting
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  that I can touch base on right now.
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  We in that draft episode, we kind of uncovered our map to
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  summer break, right? We usually take summer break in
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  July and August, but we've got we've got some Summer Slam stuff
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  to tap into. So this week, as promised on the
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  Discord and hinted towards was Jim's pick for Battle Royale.
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  We're covering the final four from In Your House 1997, but
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  also down the pipeline on the Extra Cooler show.
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  As we head towards summer, we are going to be covering another
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  Battle Royale intent that will lead us to our Summer Slam.
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  We're going to be covering the infamous Yokozuna Intrepid.
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  The whole situation that went down back on the 4th of July
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  because WWE Walt on YouTube now carries this.
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  What do they actually call that? It's like a Tri slam Yokozuna.
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  That's how it was. That's what it is.
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  Stars and Stripes something. Stars and Stripes Challenge.
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  And then we are 209 episodes in and we've talked about the lost
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  episode. We haven't uncovered it, but
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  we're going to re record it, right.
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  Five years later, we're going to re record Summer Slam 1991 and
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  break it down into parts before our summer break.
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  So yeah, there's like a there's. Like a Taylor's version
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  situation, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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  Very much so. I like that you got.
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  The the master tapes back and from.
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  That. Do you think like?
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  Who knows Andrew? One of my favorite listeners
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  just rolled his eyes at the fact that you referred to it as
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  Taylor's version. I don't care what Adam Ruma has
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  to say. All right, and then before we
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  dive into before we dive into this episode, I I've been kind
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  of keeping this quiet and we haven't talked about any of like
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  my artwork because I've been so busy and I haven't put out a lot
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  of new content on my Instagram. But a cool thing is I've
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  designed. I don't think I've mentioned
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  this if. If so, I've had too many drinks
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  of tequila on the podcast. You you have in the discord, I
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  know that for sure. Yes, I dropped it in the
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  discord. So if you're not there what are
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  you waiting for? But I, I've been working with
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  Matt Cardona's team and designing some big rubber guys.
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  I just finished my 4th 1 and I think and hope there's more down
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  the pipeline. So it's been a pretty cool
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  process. I did sign an NDA so I can't
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  talk about any of the rest of that.
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  I. Drew, can we say that like it's
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  a person that this show would love?
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  Maybe. I think so.
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  It's not the warlord though. So it there's some, there's some
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  good stuff out there, man. And I'm I can't wait to share it
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  with everybody and and show you because the process has been
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  insane. These guys pay so much attention
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  to detail like no other company I've ever worked for before.
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  So yeah, it's been a lot of fun. You talk about the process is so
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  friggin cool and just the like you said, the attention to
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  detail attention. To detail.
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  Yeah, absolutely. No, this has to be yeah,
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  absolutely perfect. This has to be right.
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  This historically correct was the words that I was searching
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  for as an outsider. Go ahead.
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  No, historically correct is honestly the best way that you
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  could have said it. It's just just making sure that
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  they are so hyper focused on that is made this process really
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  cool to watch from afar. Yeah, can't.
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  Can't you, Yeah, convince Stepheners to make a figurine of
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  me? Maybe only if Helen's there too.
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  Oh yeah, she likes she treats me like a wrestling buddy.
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  From 9:50 you. Can make the figurines do the
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  watusi? Could you?
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  Could you I, I. Just want an accessory
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  accessory. Oh no.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your problem?
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  It's it was a Saskatchewan pilsner and ashtray, so I can
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  bash it over my bastard son's head.
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  That's Bruce, by the way. Oh, I thought you were going to
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  say Keith. Keith.
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  Keith's OK in my big Stew. I love them, I don't understand
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  them at all. But I love them to death.
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  Speaking of impressions, I mean that that wasn't an impression.
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  That was actually Stew live on. Air You didn't talk about your
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  Jalen Brunson drawing either, though.
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  That was just like the rare moment that I had that I got to
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  talk to Draw Something Knicks related.
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  And I wish I had more time because.
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  I had yeah, free draw. We love that though.
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  I know I want more, I want to be able to draw more like
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  basketball related stuff because the four of us are all on a high
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  right now. Final if you're.
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  If you're a Thunder fan or a Spurs fan, you might as well
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  unsubscribe right now. I did get to go to Oklahoma
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  City. Spurs game with one in Oklahoma
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  City. That's.
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  Wild. Which was completely unplanned
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  was not headed down to Oklahoma with a friend of mine to go pick
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  up his RV trailer that he had left down there and he just
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  moved back up here and the Tornadoes got in our way Mikey
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  workrate thank you again for all of your support and help
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  navigating the Tornadoes that were coming through the Midwest
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  that. Glad you got to go to the game,
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  that's awesome. And we were like scrambling,
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  like, all right, what are we going to do?
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  Let's drive 2 hours and let's go to OK C and let's watch the
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  double overtime team that was game one.
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  So in my head, that was like originally a business trip and
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  like the fact that it's like helping a friend get back home
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  Philly that like. Oh man, it was a it was a deal.
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  It was like a bucket list type stuff of just jumping in an RV
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  and driving, having all over creation.
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  It was. It was freaking cool.
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  Maybe Mike just sent a picture? Sorry to derail things.
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  You just mentioned the Jalen Brunson drawing and Mike just
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  sent a picture of a poster of Yokozuna on the Intrepid.
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  What if Jalen Brunson were the 1 to slam Yokozuna all?
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  Right. That's that's, that's a chalk
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  line jacket, right? I'm doing the Jack Nicholson
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  from Departed GIF right now. Is it departed?
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  I think that's anger management. I think it's anger.
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  Management. I had a guess.
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  That's housekeeping I will not be doing.
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  It all right, let's go ahead to February February 16th, 1997 to
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  Chattanooga, TN in the UTC arena for in your house the final
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  four. So this this whole event is is
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  pretty much based around Shawn Michaels losing his smile and
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  having to forfeit the title, which I we'll get through as we.
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  It's still it's funny to say out loud all these years later.
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  Oh yeah, lost his smile. Who do you think wrote that line
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  for him? I think they, him and Vince
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  workshopped that together. You think That's my bet?
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  I I'm with Jim on that, yeah. It definitely was a bullet point
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  of the promo. Oh yeah, now it's definitely
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  hands on for sure. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. At the least.
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  But if what? When we talk about it?
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  I'll save some of my commentary for when we start talking about
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  it. So the Sean's forfeiting the
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  title, then we've got to have a final four to determine who will
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  get that title and then have to face Sid the next night on
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  Monday Night Raw. But we're going to get there.
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  That's our main event. That's that's really why we're
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  here. So before we do that, we're
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  going to breeze through the card for this in your house
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  pay-per-view. So on this In Your House
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  pay-per-view, we've got a dark match that goes almost 12
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  minutes. I didn't know about the dark
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  match. And it is the Godwins defeating
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  the headbangers. 12 minutes. Imagine watching that.
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  That's darkness. It's.
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  Supposed to be. Fired up for the evening.
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  That's a yeah, that's a turn on the freaking car in the closed
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  garage match. That's not even a dark match,
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  sorry. But the pay-per-view starts off
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  with with another match that goes 9 minutes and 31 seconds.
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  His paper picked up. They they open this with like a
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  classic WWF opening package talking about it's a great
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  package, what it takes to be a champion and then specifically
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  Shawn Michaels and him forfeiting the title.
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  And then it doesn't transition into the commentators speaking.
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  It just goes straight from the video package to.
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  Whip. Bang, right here.
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  Here comes Mark. I don't know how what other way
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  to start a pay-per-view. I, you know, for my money, like
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  with this era's production packages, to start a
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  pay-per-view, starting with the World Wrestling Federation.
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  Like the kind of spinning tower thing.
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  Like a tornado, Yeah. Yes, into this era's voice over.
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  Oh my God, into Sable Whipsnap. Wow.
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  I mean like you. Get Mark.
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  So you got Mark Marrow. This is not a this is still like
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  like he's still got that Johnny B bad hair.
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  By the way, it's not like the buzz he's.
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  Still the wild man. He's still not.
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  He's not marvelous yet. Yeah, he's.
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  Still. Yeah, he hasn't.
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  He hasn't turned on Sable yet. The crowd isn't this Sable's
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  just been like newly introduced. Yeah, they're they pop though.
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  This is February 1997. As a reminder, you know you've
• 12:06
  been along for the ride with the Extra Cooler show for the last
• 12:08
  few months. We've been talking about 1998
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  and Mark Marrow has shown up a lot.
• 12:12
  And this is a very different Mark Marrow.
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  Yeah, he, oh, he's facing Leaf Cassidy.
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  By the way, Leaf Cassidy doesn't even get introduced.
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  He's just standing in the middle of the ring.
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  So you know where this is going. As you get to come out to the
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  rockers, music that's upset. My favorite part of this though
• 12:31
  is when Sable comes out and they are showing finally.
• 12:34
  They're showing King and Jr. behind the announce table and
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  you see this dude standing up with this giddy ass smile on his
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  face, winding a disposable camera and taking pictures of
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  Sable the entire time. And for whatever reason, dude
• 12:47
  hell yeah blowing his whole. All that film.
• 12:53
  His wife takes the the film to the 24 hour.
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  You know, what do you call it? Developing station.
• 12:59
  What are those places called? They don't even know anymore.
• 13:01
  Yeah, it's it's like she gets single.
• 13:04
  What the hell? And she's like the size of his
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  pinky Nail on the brand. And you know what those those
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  photographs look like from an arena?
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  They're like very dark, rainy, cloudy, grainy.
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  And they're using fog in the entrances too, so it's like
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  foggy and stupid. Yeah, and.
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  Magic goes 9 1/2 minutes. We're going to talk about it for
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  hopefully a lot less than that, but we got to.
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  Think about. Think about those videos.
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  I'm sorry, those photos that have come back of like hell in
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  the Cell and Mick Foley coming off of them recently, like for
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  the first time ever. And just that's the vibe of that
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  really faded, awful exposure in this disposable camera like a.
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  Charm to him though. Yes.
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  Oh, that's. Exactly it.
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  Now, Nick. Nick was a big.
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  He would always have the little camera there at the thing.
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  Oh, yeah. Do you have that one?
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  Remember the camera you get where?
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  Like, it would be like a Ninja Turtles camera and it would be
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  like a Michelangelo in the corner of each picture.
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  No. Yeah, yeah.
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  I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Oh, I need to get my hands on one of those.
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  Take that to a show and have my God you.
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  Imagine framing Michelangelo in there.
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  He's like coming out of a sewer cap in.
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  Every photo pre printed on the. Yeah.
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  That's insane. I apologize.
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  I digress. All right, so we've, we've
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  already spent too much time on this match.
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  Mark Merrill wins 9 1/2 minutes. Shocking amount of time.
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  That is a shocking amount of time.
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  Then after this match, wait, you want to give a?
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  I'm not giving a. Can wild thing you?
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  Want to give a cans in the cooler?
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  No, absolutely not. I didn't watch pay that close of
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  attention. We were breezing through these
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  first matches. Breezing quote UN quote.
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  Yeah. All right, so then after that,
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  before our next match, we get the whole Shawn Michaels lost
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  his smile from Thursday. What is it?
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  Thursday. Thursday.
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  Raw Thursday. Before that happens, Honky Tonk
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  Man comes out. It's like the end of the match,
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  Honky Tonk Man comes out. They cut to this clip of them
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  talking about the I lost my smile promo and then they come
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  back from the promo and we're watching this on Netflix.
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  This in Your House is on Netflix and Honky Tonk van is gone.
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  So they completely skipped whatever Honky Tonk part was on
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  this. He's just not there.
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  It completely glossed over it. I didn't do the homework to go
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  back in and try to find it. But let's talk about losing your
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  smile. Nick, how did you feel as a HBK
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  Stan in? 1980.
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  Seven about the whole smile. So like I, I was, mind you,
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  Sean, we could talk about this for a while.
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  My whole Sean fandom, like I always peaked when he was like
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  heal, like this version of one really didn't do much for me.
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  Like you could tell he was just kind of like squandering a
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  little bit. And he like, dude looks like
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  he's distraught. Like every, I mean, everybody
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  knows what he looks like in this moment.
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  He's got like stubble. His eyes look like he's like on
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  a Bender or something. He looks like a silk stockings
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  victim in a yeah. Yeah, not like the stud in the
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  episode. Yeah.
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  European collar and European. Collar, yes.
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  And he was crying in the back and then had to come out and
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  listening to him cut a promo. And I I just clipped the most
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  like iconic parts of it, but I forgot about how shoveled and
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  just off he is during this like completely.
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  And just the fact that he doesn't, he's tripping over
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  lines, he's repeating himself, he's stuttering and stammering
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  throughout this. But let's take a listen to Sean
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  talk about him losing a smile. I know that over the last
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  several months I've lost a lot of things, and one of them has
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  been my smile. And, and I know it doesn't mean
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  a whole lot to everybody else, but it means a lot to me.
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  So I have to go back and fix myself and take care of myself
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  and I have to go back and I have to find my smile because
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  somewhere along the line I lost it.
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  And I don't care, really. I don't care if it's unpopular.
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  That's like just the sliver of the uncomfortable and repeating
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  parts that he was doing. I feel.
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  Is I correct me if I'm wrong? It feels like there is a degree
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  of honesty in here. Yeah, it feels like a lot.
• 17:35
  Of honesty to be honest with you, they talk about Doctor
• 17:39
  Andrews and him going down to like, you know, get his knee
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  checked out he may be beyond repair essentially and if he
• 17:46
  can't come back and perform the way he used to perform, he can't
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  perform anymore and he. Still.
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  But was he though? I don't know.
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  Like I'm sure that was a a part of it, but this is like this
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  dude's stepping away because he's all fucked up.
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  Is it the worst? Is it?
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  Or is that because they're going to take the title off of him?
• 18:08
  It could be that too. He didn't want to face Brett.
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  Yeah, I think he didn't want to get back the title of Brett.
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  I think this whole thing is like.
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  I think it's a mixture of both, like him selling it but also
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  some honesty to it. I bet you we could do a whole
• 18:23
  episode just on this like. 100% Man this is fascinating.
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  It's. Like Montreal Screwjob kind of
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  talking about. Yes.
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  Could go. It's one of those things where,
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  like, yeah, like in this day and age, people get a, you know,
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  you're right, I'm wrong, and some people are right and some
• 18:41
  people are wrong. That's true.
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  But doesn't mean that multiple things can't be true at once,
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  right? Like, Yep.
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  That's truly what this feels like.
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  It feels like it's the guys of the knee.
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  It's the drug problems. It's the lack of interpersonal
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  skills, being a complete asshole in 97.
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  His friends are gone. I'm sure it's a mental state
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  too, with, you know, Paul and Nash gone and it's popped and
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  it's so fascinating. And I didn't put in the research
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  to, you know, actually come in and, and figure out what was
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  actually going on and, you know, trying to figure out whatever
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  the stories have been around it. So it's, it's fun to speculate
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  here. And I'm sure that somebody will
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  come up with some housekeeping and, and text me or drop it in
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  the Discord, message me on Instagram and I'll certainly
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  deliver that next week. So we do appreciate that we have
• 19:30
  big brains following the show, big rest of brains that like,
• 19:34
  know instantly, like, like. Oh, thank you.
• 19:37
  Yeah. It's again, the whole thing is I
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  feel like it's made a mockery of often because of the line I lost
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  my smile. But it's when you rewatch it,
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  it's like the whole thing is actually sold pretty well and
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  feels real. It feels real because it's such
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  a dog shit promo. Like just the way because it
• 20:00
  feels real like. It's why do you.
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  Have to say smile. Though it's a passion or
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  something it took one line I who the the IWC like and ran with it
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  right like that's what's remembered so much and like to
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  see it in text is different than listening to it right on the. 30
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  years later if 30 years. Later.
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  You tell any wrestling fan that you lost your smile.
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  You can not only know what they're talking about, but you
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  can visualize like that brown suit and the European collar and
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  Sean with the stubble and the. Red eyes the pull back.
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  Ponytail. Yeah, you know it.
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  With Vince in the ring like you, you just have to say you lost
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  your smile and everybody knows what you're talking about.
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  And at the very end of it, Vince gives Sean this hug that feels
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  so disingenuous. It is crazy to watch Vince like
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  he's almost smiling because he's happy with the way that the
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  promo went and the fact that it felt real and Sean delivered
• 21:01
  something like that's what I took away from this.
• 21:04
  It's like Vin was Vince was thinking about just business
• 21:07
  completely. And then you you said we could
• 21:09
  spend an episode on this because then you wonder what's the
• 21:12
  timeline where he doesn't lose his smile, right?
• 21:15
  Because even this, this pay-per-view is booked with like
• 21:18
  Sean and Sid in the photo, right?
• 21:21
  Like in the thumbnail, basically, right?
• 21:23
  So what? Cover up like the DVD or cover
• 21:26
  the them on it? Yeah, and like, so clearly it's
• 21:29
  supposed to be something else. And then whatever wrestling
• 21:32
  media was going to be, I don't. Know I'll be going to be sit
• 21:34
  getting his rematch, which that's why he has the match the
• 21:38
  next night. But they they wrestle it
• 21:41
  Survivor Series and Royal Rumble, right, correct, yes, and
• 21:45
  then they're going to do it this and WrestleMania again.
• 21:49
  That seems crazy, but I guess I. I was really hoping for some
• 21:52
  sort of Pritchard episode just to get a little bit of
• 21:54
  background knowledge on this timeline because I feel like
• 21:58
  it's a little blurry for me and I couldn't find anything.
• 22:02
  There's nothing out there. What's what's funny to me too,
• 22:05
  is that where this conversation is like bringing me back, We did
• 22:08
  episode 166. We rebooked 1997 if Brett never
• 22:13
  left for WCW, Unsung heroes that who jump started the Attitude
• 22:17
  Era. We didn't go back far enough.
• 22:20
  No, not at all. This during that episode it
• 22:23
  almost makes me want to like go back and re redo that episode
• 22:27
  again because. Right.
• 22:27
  Because what does Sean get reintroduced at Summer SLAM like
• 22:32
  around that area? He comes back at King of the
• 22:34
  Ring. He's like Austin's partner,
• 22:36
  right? Yeah, I remember that.
• 22:38
  Yeah. That's very short lived.
• 22:40
  Yeah, he's so interested in professional.
• 22:44
  Wrestling. Yeah, he does commentary on the
• 22:48
  main event at 13 WrestleMania. Oh, that's right.
• 22:51
  Yes. Oh, right.
• 22:53
  Interesting stuff. All right, let's move on.
• 22:56
  We've got a lot of cover and we just spent a lot of time on a
• 22:59
  lost smile. Our our next match is the Nation
• 23:03
  of Domination crush Farouk and Savio Vega.
• 23:06
  Pretty badass version of the Nation of Domination.
• 23:09
  That's a good, Yeah, that's a good one.
• 23:11
  They. The rappers, the 2 white guys.
• 23:12
  Yeah, they got JC Ice and. What's the other guy?
• 23:15
  CD. Wolfie D.
• 23:18
  And D Lil Brown and Clarence Mason, and they're facing off
• 23:22
  against a hodgepodge of jabronis, Bart gun flash funk
• 23:27
  and not a jabroni gold dust with Marlena.
• 23:30
  Really weird. The only notes that I wrote down
• 23:34
  in this match that goes 6 minutes and 43 seconds is I left
• 23:37
  the screen, pause for a second, and I came back like I watched
• 23:42
  it on my laptop, right? And I paused it at this point.
• 23:46
  I opened it the next day, went to hit play again.
• 23:49
  Before I could hit play, I looked at Crush and I thought it
• 23:53
  was Duke the Dumpster Drossie. He, he he had.
• 23:55
  No joke. He wears the same exact gear as
• 23:58
  Duke Drossie. Yeah, but that's him.
• 24:00
  The ragged. Can Duke Drossie sing cool
• 24:03
  Crush? No, definitely not.
• 24:05
  Definitely. That's worth going back to last
• 24:08
  episode just to hear Cool Crush. Cool.
• 24:11
  The WrestleMania I love. I love early versions of
• 24:15
  factions. I love that this was the
• 24:18
  original nation domination with with Crush fruit, Savio Vega and
• 24:23
  the like whole. Lawyers.
• 24:25
  Yeah, they have like lawyers and businessmen.
• 24:27
  Like I, I didn't know what was going on, like the rappers, but
• 24:29
  I loved it like I. I think Bart gun gets pinned in
• 24:33
  this match. Flash Funk has his whole like.
• 24:37
  Is bark on intro denim wearing? Still.
• 24:40
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
• 24:42
  He's not transitioned to lightning bolt of Midnight
• 24:44
  Express or anything. No, we're not there yet.
• 24:47
  I only had two notes. 1 was that farook gives us a very small
• 24:50
  fish out of water cell job here he takes he eats a big
• 24:54
  clothesline pretty pretty high and then his leg starts
• 24:57
  convulsing in very fish out of water.
• 25:00
  It was a very good He's probably on Mount Rushmore.
• 25:03
  And then the finish was Bart Gunn goes for a bulldog on or he
• 25:07
  hits a bulldog on Farouk off the top, but Chains comes in with a
• 25:10
  big leg drop onto Bart's like the back of his head, which is
• 25:14
  happening behind the ref's back. Farouk rolls over for the Cover
• 25:17
  123. Did you say chains?
• 25:19
  Chains. Is it chains?
• 25:22
  I was like wait. A second James isn't even in a
• 25:25
  picture. He's like Eli Blue at this time.
• 25:29
  No, no, no, no. That's Skull Maple.
• 25:31
  Yeah, same story. You better figure out your
• 25:34
  fucking Disciples of Apocalypse. Right now, Stone Cold's in the
• 25:42
  locker room with Doc Hendrix. Oh God.
• 25:46
  But it's OK. So this Stone Cold promo
• 25:49
  backstage is pretty interesting, I thought, because it's it's
• 25:52
  cool to me to get these little peeks of Stone Cold, you know?
• 25:58
  Sorry, let me take a step back. I like seeing these Stone Cold
• 26:01
  promos before the whole Mr. McMahon like stuff really went
• 26:06
  down. Like he's telling Doc Hendricks
• 26:09
  guys like he and Vince McMahon are the problem.
• 26:12
  Basically like breaking through and letting us know that like
• 26:15
  Doc Hendricks is Michael PS as and he's booking backstage like,
• 26:20
  you know, he's breaking that wall and I don't know, I, I like
• 26:25
  seeing those little things sprinkled in in the past and.
• 26:28
  That's a big deal in this era too.
• 26:30
  I like. It's what brought me back in.
• 26:32
  I said in the last episode, this is this storyline here into raw.
• 26:37
  Is it? It sucked me right back.
• 26:39
  Oh yeah. Like how I got back into luckily
• 26:43
  enough, right before the attitude Era, like really set
• 26:46
  off. And it's it's that kind of stuff
• 26:48
  that like really sucked you in as an older kid at this point,
• 26:52
  like a teenager or whatever we were at the time.
• 26:54
  So. And to think about like a month
• 26:57
  or two later, we're about to get the the match that changes
• 27:01
  everything of Brett and Austin, that is, you know, a top three
• 27:06
  match of all time. Indeed, yeah.
• 27:08
  You know it. It's cool to think about what
• 27:10
  they're building and you know the two of them sing each
• 27:13
  other's praises constantly. I love that about that, those
• 27:16
  two too. And you see that throughout the
• 27:19
  the promos tonight, like there's a Brett promo later singing
• 27:22
  Austin's praises. It's it's interesting to see.
• 27:25
  Good stuff. Yeah, all.
• 27:27
  Right and our next match goes are we watching like an AEW
• 27:31
  pay-per-view here because every match is over 10 minutes.
• 27:35
  Rocky Maya via Rocky Maya via the Intercontinental champion
• 27:39
  facing off against Hunterhurst Helmsley.
• 27:41
  So we get a Thursday raw Thursday recap of Rocky beating
• 27:45
  Triple H with a roll up which I remember watching live so
• 27:49
  clearly it like as soon as they showed the highlights of that I
• 27:54
  was brought back to watching that event on a.
• 27:56
  Thursday to the like Leonardo DiCaprio gift and I point to.
• 28:00
  It from that, yeah, it it felt like that it was one of those
• 28:04
  moments that like I feel like doesn't get replayed enough.
• 28:08
  Yeah, with those two. Yeah, everybody's so, like,
• 28:12
  quiet about this. Yeah, right.
• 28:17
  He stole one from Triple H to win his first title.
• 28:21
  But some other interesting things this match.
• 28:23
  Triple H has maroon pants, which is an era of hunter.
• 28:27
  Hers, Helmsley, I don't really remember.
• 28:30
  It goes riding pants almost in. Riding pants.
• 28:33
  They are riding, riding and. Getting into kind of real
• 28:36
  tights, but continue. Match goes 12 minutes and 30
• 28:40
  seconds. It's for the Intercontinental
• 28:41
  title. It is what it is. 1st event.
• 28:46
  This is their first pay-per-view match between the two of them.
• 28:50
  I thought that was. So it's probably like their
• 28:51
  second they they probably didn't have many matches before this
• 28:55
  outside of that raw Thursday, Raw Thursday.
• 28:58
  I wanted to call it raw Thursday, Thursday or but Triple
• 29:02
  H has advantage. Know what do you got?
• 29:06
  I was just saying we'd want to, you would want to sit them down
• 29:09
  and like now and like make them watch this match.
• 29:13
  Oh yeah, talk right. Like how much fun would that be?
• 29:18
  This is one of those ones. What What's the the series on?
• 29:23
  Rivals on? What's it called?
• 29:26
  Rivals. No, not rivals on their YouTube
• 29:29
  channel where they break down the match.
• 29:31
  Oh yeah. They're like untold.
• 29:33
  Untold. Yeah, like that.
• 29:36
  If you had a genuine version of these two, which I don't think
• 29:39
  you would get. Kenya.
• 29:41
  No, no way. Like do they even remember it at
• 29:43
  this point? No, their Legos are so big right
• 29:45
  now. Like a drop in the bucket too.
• 29:47
  Yeah, Triple H has the advantage most of the match until the end
• 29:52
  when when babyface Gold Dust comes down to the track Hunter.
• 29:56
  He then allows Rocky to retain the title.
• 29:59
  But all I could think of before we get to the next part is I I
• 30:04
  remember the the Hunterhurst Helmsley Gold Dust feud pretty
• 30:08
  clearly. But you could also mix that up
• 30:11
  with the Razor gold Dust feud because it's basically the same
• 30:14
  type of feud except a flip flop and Gold Dust is a heel with
• 30:19
  Razor and he becomes a babyface with Hunterhurst Helmsley.
• 30:24
  Both feuds I really loved. I remember enjoying both of
• 30:28
  them. But basically we get the
• 30:30
  introduction of China cause Marlena comes down with gold
• 30:35
  dust and all of a sudden she's taunting and she's got her back
• 30:39
  up against the guardrail. And we get this huge muscular
• 30:43
  woman who starts choking out Marlena and, and we have no clue
• 30:48
  who she is. Marlena hits the floor.
• 30:50
  Gold dust is covering her. Yeah, she's on the fans side of
• 30:55
  the railing too. And this security guard in
• 30:58
  yellow security shirt like reacts.
• 31:02
  I don't even I wonder if they even told him.
• 31:04
  My guess is no because he's legitimately like looking
• 31:07
  around. And then a cop pulls up, too,
• 31:09
  and the two of them are able to get China off of Arlena.
• 31:13
  And it's sold like these guys probably had no idea this was
• 31:17
  going to happen, This. Was the one thing on the card
• 31:19
  that I rewound several times. Because you go back and you
• 31:22
  watch the the crowd reaction around it too.
• 31:25
  They are shocked. They think it's they they they
• 31:29
  got worked bro. Like 100, yeah. 100%.
• 31:33
  Yeah, it's one of those things that I watch, like when you
• 31:37
  rewatch it, it's like, God damn. Like, did they realize how good
• 31:42
  they delivered with this? Like, because it's one of those
• 31:45
  moments in wrestling where you're like, it was executed
• 31:48
  perfect. And even like from this moment
• 31:51
  beyond like Hunters Helmsley and being paired with China is like
• 31:55
  such a beautiful pairing and it works out.
• 31:58
  So well, yeah, it's a lift off I think, for his career.
• 32:02
  Probably both of them, yes. Yeah.
• 32:04
  Without her, he wouldn't be. Never, never.
• 32:08
  By the way, and that's Rochester's China Joni Lohr,
• 32:12
  just so you know, right? Yeah, I like it.
• 32:14
  Yeah, you're right. All right, moving right along.
• 32:17
  We've got a Vader backstage promo.
• 32:19
  A lot of mouth breathing. I forgot he was pallbearer.
• 32:26
  We have Paul Bearer. I know.
• 32:27
  This just shows you how loyal Vince and the company was to
• 32:31
  Paul Bearer that they were like, OK, you're done with the
• 32:34
  Undertaker right now, but we're going to try anything to keep
• 32:38
  you in the picture. Like, let's give you to anybody,
• 32:42
  yeah, that we don't feel comfortable putting on the
• 32:44
  microphone, right? Like clearly.
• 32:48
  They don't trust Vader. On that white shit on your face
• 32:50
  though. Yeah, yeah, he's still.
• 32:52
  Yeah, He's not the pallbearer recovered in 98 or a recent run.
• 32:58
  Yeah, yeah. Not that greasy.
• 32:59
  Like Slimy? Pallbearer, not Percy.
• 33:02
  Yeah, go dip your face in powder and paint that mustache.
• 33:05
  God damn. Yeah, the voice and everything,
• 33:07
  yeah, which is strange with Vader, you know, it's a very odd
• 33:12
  combination. Yeah, it's weird.
• 33:16
  It's it's it's very strange. But I don't even want to talk
• 33:19
  about our next match again. This thing goes 10 minutes and
• 33:22
  30. Minutes.
• 33:25
  It's Owen Hart and the British Bulldog who are the tag team
• 33:28
  champions. They're with Clarence Mason.
• 33:31
  What God's name? These are things you forget
• 33:33
  about. There's.
• 33:35
  It's basically like. Furnace is definitely the Shawn
• 33:39
  Michaels of the tag team. I don't even want to say who
• 33:42
  they're facing. I don't even want to say their
• 33:44
  names because they don't deserve me to say.
• 33:47
  Their names is Furnace, the one with the like the coily hair.
• 33:50
  Yes. I can't even tell you the
• 33:52
  difference. He's the one that Nick, John,
• 33:53
  Luke. Can be saying do you expect me
• 33:55
  to tell the difference between these two?
• 33:58
  This is like WCW creeping into WWF for Nick right now.
• 34:02
  He never, he never reacts this viscerally to anything.
• 34:06
  And it's and lo and behold, it's Doug.
• 34:08
  Fergus and Phil Lafon are the 2. Guys that are getting these two
• 34:11
  guys remind me of like when the Patriot came.
• 34:16
  It's very similar feelings. Yeah, they're like, hype them
• 34:19
  up, like, and everyone's like, who gives a shit?
• 34:22
  Yeah, like this. Yeah.
• 34:23
  What are you doing about these freaking Dicks?
• 34:25
  Oh, you got a yin Yang sign in your ass?
• 34:31
  The the whole story of the match, I couldn't tell you
• 34:33
  anything that happens in the match.
• 34:35
  It's basically like Owen and Bulldog butting heads throughout
• 34:38
  which like. That's the whole story, yeah.
• 34:40
  Yeah, but I, I got to be honest, this is one of those things in
• 34:43
  professional wrestling that I eat up when they, like, tease
• 34:47
  two guys butting up, butting heads, and they're going to
• 34:50
  split up, they're going to explode.
• 34:52
  But they never really do, right? Like Brett brings them back
• 34:54
  together and I don't know, I I like that.
• 34:58
  I I do have to admit though, in the very beginning of the match
• 35:01
  Owen is carrying Furnace or Lafon.
• 35:03
  I'm not sure which one. Probably both of them to
• 35:05
  actually like a decent wrestling match in the beginning and then
• 35:08
  once that starts crumbling and falling apart you forget the
• 35:11
  other two are even in the OR let's.
• 35:12
  Let's not piss off our our entire like, you know, true fan
• 35:17
  base. Like those guys are decent
• 35:18
  wrestlers, right? They could work.
• 35:21
  I blacked out. They they're good.
• 35:24
  They probably are. They probably are, and that's
• 35:25
  probably why Vince hired them. But they're like your Yeah,
• 35:28
  because they're your typical cut off discord at the.
• 35:30
  Pass. Because someone's going to like,
• 35:32
  well, actually, I just can't wait.
• 35:34
  Until. Matt Cardona, UCWA champion.
• 35:39
  I can't wait until Matt Cardona reaches out to Nick and is like
• 35:41
  hey I want to do a 2 pack for big rubber guys Ernest and Lafon
• 35:47
  and yes Sir. How fast do you need them?
• 35:50
  Nick's going to have to do that. Springy hair.
• 35:52
  Which one's the one with the springy hair again?
• 35:55
  Buffon? I don't.
• 35:56
  Know he looked like Pauly Shore with like.
• 35:58
  Yeah, yeah. He's like Pauly Shore on
• 36:00
  steroids. That Helen and Stu Hart are in
• 36:06
  the crowd tonight, Judge. Edo reference and Early. 26 You
• 36:13
  know I I watched Senin the make my family when he and actually
• 36:20
  Canadians celebrate Thanksgiving at a later date.
• 36:27
  Is it later? I thought it was earlier.
• 36:29
  A a Boxing Day. That's that's the day after
• 36:33
  Christmas. Oh, fact.
• 36:43
  Jeez, God. Let's talk about what's in
• 36:46
  Everybody's cooler. Owen by DQ, by the way.
• 36:51
  That's all I got. Yeah, that's.
• 36:53
  A weird ending too, though. Lawler gets mad at them too
• 36:56
  because they're mad he's like, you still got the titles like.
• 37:03
  Bulldogs like ready to power slam whatever one of them and
• 37:07
  Owen just has a slammy and he's just like randomly goes and just
• 37:11
  hits him on the the furnace or whoever on the back.
• 37:14
  It makes no sense it it's so. Sloppy and then Bulldogs like to
• 37:19
  break the slammy in their little disagreement after the match.
• 37:22
  Too. Man, I like this.
• 37:24
  I like this show. We were unapologetically racist
• 37:27
  against French Canadians. We cannot tell them apart.
• 37:30
  Like Furnace or The Fun. I don't know which one is.
• 37:32
  Which hey, you love Dino Bravo though.
• 37:35
  Yeah, I know him because he got bleached blonde hair and he got
• 37:37
  murdered for smuggling cigarettes, so.
• 37:40
  That's true. Sorry to laugh.
• 37:43
  Dino Bravo's family. All right, What's in everybody's
• 37:49
  cooler? The extra cooler.
• 37:50
  Show them what's in the cooler is brought to you by Sloop
• 37:52
  Brewing Company. I had a Sloop in the
• 37:54
  refrigerator, but I already drank my first beer after Little
• 37:58
  League game, and now I'm on to tequila.
• 38:00
  And. Yeah, it's I was going to go
• 38:04
  with G4 because of the final four, but instead I've got this
• 38:07
  this nice bottle of it's called. Hold on, let me pull up the
• 38:11
  picture because I obviously I don't have a bottle in my
• 38:13
  basement. Meximoto, look at that.
• 38:16
  Can you see that label? Yeah, it's a cool label that is
• 38:19
  pretty cool. It's pink foreshadowing the end
• 38:23
  of it's. Very, very very like
• 38:27
  southwestern Tex. Mex.
• 38:28
  Kind of stuff, yes. Yeah, it's good for tequila.
• 38:32
  I am still working on my bottle of Shivis Regal, the 15 year
• 38:37
  Scotch from Shivis and Cognac casks.
• 38:41
  So take your time with that. Cheers.
• 38:44
  All right, I'm going to cheer. Keep the hard liquor train
• 38:46
  going. I have Tito's with splash of
• 38:50
  cranberry. My favorite.
• 38:52
  Honestly, it's my favorite drink.
• 38:54
  That's what I drink. Can't go wrong.
• 38:56
  It's the best. It's the best.
• 38:59
  Yeah, So what I have, I have this concoction here.
• 39:05
  Yes, there's that. There's goo.
• 39:10
  It's goo plus strawberry, watermelon, seltzer plus.
• 39:15
  Sign me up. Actual strawberries.
• 39:18
  Actual watermelon. You didn't make you didn't make
• 39:20
  this yourself. No, I did.
• 39:22
  You're white. You're white, I said.
• 39:24
  White really. Well, like she.
• 39:25
  She made me one like 2 days ago. Oh.
• 39:27
  So she set the she. Yeah.
• 39:29
  Showed you the white. She's not as good as the one
• 39:31
  that she made, right? Yeah.
• 39:32
  Right, but. Yeah, like 95% is good.
• 39:36
  Hell yeah, man. Yeah, maybe lower that number
• 39:38
  just because in case she ever listens, right?
• 39:41
  OK. This would be the episode she's
• 39:43
  like, you know? What I want to listen to that
• 39:44
  Vader episode. I think we're all safe here.
• 39:47
  None of our wives are going to listen to this.
• 39:52
  No, but it's interesting. Do you ever find this?
• 39:54
  Me and my wife often talk about this.
• 39:57
  It's all like drinks are the same way.
• 40:00
  It's always better when someone else makes it 4. 100 like it's
• 40:02
  like a it's like. A sandwich like someone makes
• 40:05
  you. That's an analogy, right?
• 40:07
  Like my wife's always like, can you make my lunch?
• 40:09
  And like on a weekend, like she's a sandwich.
• 40:12
  Tastes better when you make it. Why bars exist?
• 40:15
  If you take the and it's like you take the time to make
• 40:18
  yourself a sandwich and you know, like craft it, you know,
• 40:21
  like, sure. But like, but yes, 100% someone
• 40:24
  making you a sandwich is always Oh yeah.
• 40:26
  Like if I have to make sandwich for all four of us, I'm I'm
• 40:29
  making everybody's first. No, it's a machine assembly.
• 40:32
  Sweet. Oh, OK, yeah.
• 40:33
  Like everything is but yeah no machine assembly but but mine is
• 40:37
  like the cold cuts are like. Perfect, just so the Pickles
• 40:41
  just amount. Yeah, you know, maybe a little
• 40:43
  Mayo, you know, a little extra Mayo for their Matt Bros.
• 40:46
  Disgusting. Seriously.
• 40:49
  Disgusting. Oh, there's there's basil in
• 40:51
  there too. Like that?
• 40:54
  I like Basil this great combo. Great combo.
• 40:57
  I actually had this conversation with my wife about the sandwich
• 41:00
  thing because I made grilled cheeses the other day and she
• 41:02
  was like this is the best. And then she was like.
• 41:06
  Yeah, all my grilled cheese is second to none.
• 41:08
  I think you got to. It's almost black, I think.
• 41:12
  We're not like, I wouldn't go that far, you know what I mean?
• 41:14
  Like. But you gotta be toast Brown
• 41:16
  over here. Gotta be toasty, I agree.
• 41:18
  Gotta have good bread too. Gotta have good bread.
• 41:21
  Yeah, absolutely. The bread.
• 41:23
  Don't give me grilled cheese on like a freaking piece of bread.
• 41:26
  Like white bread or something. You know what's actually very
• 41:28
  good? And Matt, you might not agree
• 41:31
  with this, but you probably wouldn't even taste it if you
• 41:33
  take the bread and you put a little Mayo on the side.
• 41:37
  Oh, yeah, right. Like you, you put a little Mayo,
• 41:39
  not on the inside of the sandwich, on the outside.
• 41:41
  Oh, it's delicious. Yeah.
• 41:44
  Not a lot, not a lot. Burger shakes and fries which
• 41:49
  you guys know the bread. They would put butter and Mayo
• 41:52
  on the outside. Yes, yes.
• 41:55
  On the grilled, yeah, so sorry. Sorry, he's gagging over there.
• 42:01
  Let's get to our four corners elimination match for the vacant
• 42:04
  WWF Championship. We've got Bret Hart versus Stone
• 42:08
  Cold Steve Austin versus Vader versus The Undertaker.
• 42:14
  And as we mentioned, Matt, you actually, I was going to read
• 42:18
  through it, but I think you have the description of the rules
• 42:20
  right. Let's.
• 42:21
  Allow Jr. and Jerry the King Lawler to set the stage.
• 42:25
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, remember the rules of this very
• 42:28
  special matchup. First of all, all four
• 42:31
  superstars will be in the ring. They start all in the ring.
• 42:35
  There are no count outs and no disqualification.
• 42:39
  A superstar is eliminated when he's starting over the top rope
• 42:43
  and both beat land on the floor or by submission or by pinball
• 42:49
  Superstar standing. It's going to be declared the
• 42:52
  new WWM champion and look at that.
• 42:54
  Fighter is going nuts out here. I don't understand this as I
• 43:01
  listen to that, as I listen to them alternate between the
• 43:04
  rules. I like that I'm picturing them
• 43:08
  sitting at the desk side by side.
• 43:10
  Essentially needed. Me and Jr. is tapping J King
• 43:15
  when? To go.
• 43:16
  Like giving him a tap on his knee or an elbow in the in the
• 43:19
  ribs. Like it's your turn, it's your
• 43:21
  turn. I.
• 43:22
  What? Once King goes, he's good,
• 43:24
  though he's. Good he is.
• 43:25
  King was like the lowest risk possible.
• 43:28
  They gave him lines that were like single lines and Jr. is
• 43:31
  talking for like the rules, the actual.
• 43:34
  Rules now like the winner becomes the champion like this.
• 43:39
  I feel like, and this might be the true housekeeping of the the
• 43:46
  night. I feel like this is the only
• 43:48
  time they've ever had a match like this with all of these
• 43:51
  rules in there in this way, especially with obviously
• 43:56
  there's been matches with, you know, submission, but the over
• 44:00
  the top rope thing isn't a really interesting aspect to
• 44:03
  throw in there in a match with four guys.
• 44:06
  It's it's. It's risky.
• 44:08
  I mean, we're going to get into this, but this is a tremendously
• 44:11
  underrated match. Just set up the folks that are
• 44:16
  in it, you know, and it's just, it's so I, I don't know, I think
• 44:22
  it's. It's I Googled this, when you
• 44:25
  Google it, there's people out there that are saying this is
• 44:27
  like one of the most underrated main events of all time and and
• 44:31
  it delivers Before we talk about the main event, before we talk
• 44:34
  about the main event. Imagine being the Undertaker and
• 44:40
  being stuck with having the worst music out of all four of
• 44:44
  these guys because Hitman's is good.
• 44:47
  Stone Cold is incredible, but Vader's, like you guys just
• 44:51
  heard it as listen to those rules.
• 44:53
  His is one of the most underappreciated theme musics in
• 44:57
  professional wrestling. Great to send him out first.
• 45:00
  Get the crowd hiding. He's throwing, he's throwing
• 45:03
  stares at Gorilla Monsoon. Is that what's happening?
• 45:06
  Yeah, it was just. Gorilla there there's no
• 45:10
  reference by the way, to the fact that gorilla monsoon's in
• 45:13
  the middle of the ring holding the winged eagle.
• 45:15
  Like nobody references that really like gorilla like they
• 45:19
  they touch on it very, very briefly.
• 45:22
  But this match? Is adjacent to Roy Rumble 92.
• 45:26
  I think like obviously, you know, that's different.
• 45:30
  That's Ric Flair's one shot at the WF title and it's unique in
• 45:34
  that way. But this is, these are super
• 45:37
  heavyweights in stature and you know, like all time, they're
• 45:43
  legends. It's a legendary match.
• 45:45
  And then what is the way to put it?
• 45:47
  There there's a lot to get to. So after Vader comes out, Stone
• 45:51
  Cold's music hits, takes him a while to come out.
• 45:54
  I kind of like wondered what he was doing.
• 45:56
  He was it took him so long to come out to the point where like
• 46:03
  they have to reference that it's taking him that long to come
• 46:05
  out. Like it's not the glass breaks
• 46:07
  and Austin comes out, it's the glass breaks and you get a good
• 46:09
  like 15 seconds before he. Damien Baller criticized.
• 46:13
  He's like, he's been here all day.
• 46:15
  I don't know where he is. Vader and Austin flip each other
• 46:18
  off in the middle of the ring and like, I don't know about you
• 46:22
  guys, let me wait. OK, hold on.
• 46:25
  Undertaker comes out. He's got his usual drawn out
• 46:27
  entrance but the only thing I can notice was that the guy must
• 46:31
  have doused his hair in like a gallon of water because his
• 46:36
  duster is covered in like in just water dripping down the
• 46:41
  entire thing. Now there's one thing that was
• 46:44
  extremely jarring to go back to Stone Cold for a second.
• 46:47
  Not only that, he'd like waited. The crowd doesn't react at all
• 46:52
  to the glass break. It's crazy.
• 46:54
  And I know it's 97 and it's early 97, what February?
• 46:58
  But this is this is wild to see. And like just the lack of
• 47:03
  reaction for the glass break is just jarring to.
• 47:06
  Because he's still in the heel territory.
• 47:08
  The double turn hasn't happened yet, right?
• 47:10
  We haven't gotten everything with him and Owen yet.
• 47:13
  It's. You do have Austin fans though.
• 47:16
  You've seen some of the front row Austin 316 shirts, but this
• 47:19
  is like a divided crowd too, like you have.
• 47:23
  I would rank him third in in terms of yeah, right.
• 47:27
  Like, and then I would say Brett and then Undertaker as we get to
• 47:32
  the match, you'll see. But like, so I think that's part
• 47:35
  of that. But like, but to your point,
• 47:37
  Nick, you're right. Like it's he's not.
• 47:40
  Or so conditioned to like hear the glass break and be like, oh,
• 47:43
  I'm expecting the roof to blow off this place and absolutely
• 47:46
  nothing happens. It's good.
• 47:48
  It is, it's a very interesting time and again, it's it's one of
• 47:51
  those cool things to go back and re watch and see how Austin is
• 47:55
  being handled. Man, he's he's still heal.
• 47:59
  So after Austin, we get the lights.
• 48:02
  I thought it was very, very interesting.
• 48:04
  I'm sorry. After Undertaker comes out,
• 48:07
  right, the lights are out, all that Austin no sells any of
• 48:10
  this. And then the lights go on and
• 48:12
  Vader's in the middle of the ring doing the whole, like,
• 48:15
  looking everywhere spooked. Like, like, I don't know if
• 48:18
  anybody picked up on that, but we get Kevin Kelly and he's with
• 48:24
  Brett backstage as The Undertaker's music continues to
• 48:27
  play. Another brutal, brutal promo.
• 48:30
  Let's take a listen. The time is now, the challenge
• 48:33
  is upon you. Can anything stop you from
• 48:35
  winning tonight? No, I don't think so.
• 48:37
  And we're going to find out in just a couple of minutes.
• 48:39
  I don't take anything away from any of these guys in the ring.
• 48:41
  Stone cold, it's tough, Vader's tough.
• 48:44
  Undertaker, he's tough. But, you know, I got experience,
• 48:48
  I got hard, I got everything going for me.
• 48:49
  And you know, I don't want any excuses.
• 48:51
  Whoever walks out of this thing tonight should be rightfully the
• 48:55
  World Wrestling Federation champion.
• 48:56
  The way I look at it, may the best man win me.
• 49:03
  OK, wait. OK, hold on.
• 49:06
  Hold on. OK, Matt started.
• 49:07
  Hold on. I'm ready.
• 49:10
  Kevin Kelly sucks, but we're going to breeze past that.
• 49:14
  Listen to that promo. I almost want to make you play
• 49:17
  that again. That is like fuel to the fire.
• 49:22
  Healish. Stack I Greg yeah yeah, but that
• 49:26
  promo is the reason why Brett is held back man, that promo is
• 49:32
  absolute dog shit right? Like I.
• 49:36
  Don't know. Yeah, on Shawn Michaels worst
• 49:39
  day Thursday, Raw Thursday when he's sobbing his eyes out, that
• 49:43
  promo is more entertaining and more intriguing then what Brett
• 49:49
  just put out there. Like that promo was the most
• 49:53
  boring thing I've ever listened to and it makes me dislike Brett
• 49:57
  Hart. And I love Brett Hart.
• 49:59
  I think he's fantastic. I think it's a prompt too.
• 50:01
  He's cocky and he's boring. He's so boring.
• 50:04
  Jesus Christ it's so infuriating to listen to that promo.
• 50:07
  Fader's tough Undertaker stuff. And you know what?
• 50:10
  Stone cold's off. Austin.
• 50:11
  He's tough, too. Whatever.
• 50:13
  Yeah, he's tough too. Wait, wait.
• 50:15
  They're tough. Oh, they're tough, right?
• 50:18
  Yeah, go, go. What are?
• 50:19
  You going to say there fucking pussy like what are you going
• 50:24
  to? Say no, but he's but in the
• 50:27
  yeah, in the beginning though, he goes like he's like, dude,
• 50:29
  what do they say? Do you think you're you know,
• 50:31
  and he's like, yeah, I think so. What do you?
• 50:35
  Think you're going to do out? There in the ring with these.
• 50:37
  I'm the best man, yeah. Nick, I, I have to, I have to
• 50:43
  say that I'm impressed with your ability to elaborate on your
• 50:48
  feelings on Bret Hart. And I may, I may agree full,
• 50:52
  full heartedly. It was awful.
• 50:54
  It was absolutely awful. It's like one of those things I
• 50:56
  want you to reap. I I'm contemplating Laney to
• 50:59
  replay. Keep it in the soundboard.
• 51:01
  Please. Well, no wonder people turn on
• 51:04
  them, right? Like, yeah, it's terrible.
• 51:07
  This is a textbook example of why people are like, all right
• 51:09
  when we go this wrong, is it going to be a babyface too?
• 51:13
  Like it doesn't doesn't add up. Jim has a great point that this
• 51:16
  is leading up to, you know, the double turn in WrestleMania.
• 51:20
  They're starting to plant seeds, but.
• 51:22
  Let's yeah. But I don't think they knew.
• 51:23
  I don't think they knew. They didn't know in February
• 51:26
  that that it was happening or that it had happened.
• 51:30
  So. I think they, I think they could
• 51:32
  tell the Windsor, I think the winds are changing like.
• 51:35
  OK, but you think they but Brett, you think that they were
• 51:39
  like Brett, go out there and be dry as hell?
• 51:41
  No. No, I think that's.
• 51:42
  You know what I mean? No, you're right.
• 51:44
  Like Vince McMahon is going to hammer something into the grave
• 51:47
  to like like. This, the end of this match,
• 51:51
  when we get there, the end of this match is foreshadowing for
• 51:54
  WrestleMania. Raw after this, the next day is
• 51:58
  more foreshadowing for WrestleMania.
• 52:00
  So I do truly believe that they know where they're headed and
• 52:03
  they know what's going to happen at this point in time on in your
• 52:07
  House, the Fatal 4 or the Final four.
• 52:09
  Like they absolutely know what they're doing, but I just think
• 52:13
  that this is Brett being Brett man, boring and pompous
• 52:19
  douchebag. Like that's what comes out.
• 52:20
  During this. I'm sorry.
• 52:26
  Yeah. Mikey.
• 52:27
  Mikey, you had two. Fingers.
• 52:29
  Sorry, sorry. So how early do you think they
• 52:33
  knew about Sean? And you know that he might be
• 52:37
  out for a while? Because you think the.
• 52:40
  Boston winning was the original Rumble plan.
• 52:46
  To Boston, yeah. Because like, what, what are you
• 52:49
  going to do with him? Like, what's the plan?
• 52:51
  Like it's not this final four and.
• 52:53
  Yeah, no, he. I feel like I need to dig deeper
• 52:57
  into this and, and I know we do this all the time and we ask for
• 53:01
  the discord, we ask for the homework, you know, Ace or Tom
• 53:04
  are going to text Matt and tell him what happened really.
• 53:07
  But I need to know like why? Sorry, I'm having a hard time
• 53:15
  articulating my thoughts. Why?
• 53:18
  It's almost like they bailed on Austin after the Rumble and like
• 53:22
  Vince was like, no, no, no, like, you know what I mean?
• 53:24
  Like like hold up, hold up. Or there's there's so many
• 53:28
  different moving parts that. Like origin premeditated for
• 53:32
  half like a going back a year. I mean, like you can go back to
• 53:36
  the Survivor Series 2 in 96, right?
• 53:39
  If if they had that foresight, I don't know if they did.
• 53:42
  I don't, I don't know. But maybe they did because they
• 53:45
  like like, yeah, especially knowing Vince and WWF like
• 53:50
  against the NWO and the rising WCW.
• 53:53
  Like do you have the patience for like a long sell thing?
• 53:57
  No way, Vince, No way. Does it work out yet?
• 54:00
  But like was it all strategy? I don't think so.
• 54:05
  I can't. I don't think so.
• 54:06
  Right, like some of it's a luck. I it's, it's fascinating though,
• 54:11
  like because there's some, I think they're lucky too.
• 54:13
  They have some, the, the moving parts they have are all major
• 54:17
  players, right? So like, yes, you move the, you
• 54:21
  move the chess pieces around and then you're not dealing with
• 54:23
  like pawns and stuff. They're all kings and Queens and
• 54:26
  bishops or whatever. Let's let's be honest with
• 54:28
  ourselves though. This is February 16th, 1997 and
• 54:31
  then February 17th is the Monday Night Raw.
• 54:35
  WrestleMania 13 is March 23rd, 1997.
• 54:38
  Yeah, a month away. Or a month away.
• 54:40
  Yeah. So it's like right around the.
• 54:41
  Corner stories there. They know what they're doing
• 54:43
  there. At least here, yeah.
• 54:44
  Yeah. Now let me just before we move
• 54:48
  forward, I just want to preface this and anybody that's
• 54:51
  listening to this, I, I think I've gotten this point across, I
• 54:54
  would put Brett in my top five. I do think there's plenty of
• 54:57
  flaws that Brett has. All time top five.
• 55:01
  All time I would put him in my top five yes, and I I think I'm
• 55:06
  in the there. I think there's a select group
• 55:09
  of people who can't separate reality from you know, that are
• 55:17
  like feel like they have to pick a side of Sean and Brett like
• 55:19
  you don't guess what, guys, you you don't you don't like both of
• 55:23
  them and enjoy both of them because without the other they
• 55:26
  would not be in in most people's top fives.
• 55:29
  You know what I mean? Like they play such an integral
• 55:32
  role in each other. But I do put Brett in my top
• 55:35
  five. He's fantastic.
• 55:38
  This promo. It just is infuriating to me
• 55:42
  before the match. It's lazy, it's sloppy, but we
• 55:44
  we've already driven that to home like out there.
• 55:48
  So can we move on for this match please, because.
• 55:51
  As much as I like this, I think it's time to talk about the
• 55:54
  match. Brett's got his Calgary Hitman
• 55:58
  jacket on if you want to dump on him a little bit more.
• 56:00
  But Jr. is trying to compare this moment, this Final Four
• 56:06
  match to the Super Bowl. I think this is interesting, the
• 56:09
  way he lines this up. He compares this Final Four to
• 56:13
  the Super Bowl. I've been at Game Sevens and
• 56:18
  then he throws in WrestleMania there, which I thought was
• 56:21
  really interesting. Like like nowadays you'd imagine
• 56:24
  Vince like God damn it say WrestleMania, compare it to.
• 56:27
  A main. Event but it but again, I watch
• 56:33
  all four of these guys in the ring and I'm like OK, I could I
• 56:36
  could remember undertaker invader going at it.
• 56:40
  I can remember obviously Brett, Brett and Austin going at it,
• 56:44
  but then I'm like looking at it and you know, Undertaker and
• 56:48
  Brett, you've seen go head to head.
• 56:50
  I'm sitting there and I'm like, I want to see Brett and Vader go
• 56:53
  at it. I want to see Austin and Vader
• 56:56
  go at it in this match. Those are like the the Vader
• 56:59
  with those two guys. I don't know why I was just so
• 57:02
  drawn. So even I was interested in as I
• 57:05
  hit play, I'm like, I want to see Undertaker and Austin go at
• 57:09
  it because those are matchups that you hadn't seen and they do
• 57:12
  a fantastic job right off the jump not letting you see that,
• 57:17
  right? Like that's the beautiful part
• 57:18
  in professional wrestling and storytelling within a match.
• 57:22
  Like they know that that's what everybody wants to see.
• 57:25
  They know that everybody wants to see things that we haven't
• 57:28
  seen before. This match too, I mean, this is
• 57:32
  it's fantasy booking too, like in foresight, like every
• 57:37
  combination in this match is special I think.
• 57:40
  Yes, oh 100% You get spots like left and right Vader belly belly
• 57:45
  can barely belly to belly Undertaker.
• 57:49
  He he's hitting him with with a chair on the outside of the ring
• 57:53
  that looks nasty. Undertaker at one point blocks
• 57:56
  the chair and drives Vader into that chair and then the steel
• 58:01
  steps, which opens up a massive. Pretty early in the match, a
• 58:05
  massive gush over Vader's left eye, which which I.
• 58:11
  Thought it I thought it was the chair.
• 58:12
  So he's Vader is running at Undertaker and Undertaker puts
• 58:16
  that big boot up and you don't have any.
• 58:19
  Like you always see a wrestler get the chair the right way when
• 58:23
  they're going to to use it. This is backwards, right?
• 58:25
  And like the underbelly of the chair, I think is what actually
• 58:29
  cuts Vader open. And this is that classic Raw
• 58:32
  magazine cover that I'm flashing on the screen now.
• 58:36
  This gusher exactly like Nick talked about his gnarly man.
• 58:40
  And that's that launched that magazine.
• 58:43
  Basically, that magazine was nothing before that, if it was.
• 58:45
  It was like a relaunch, yeah. And that magazine cover is just
• 58:49
  this close up on Vader with his eye pretty much blooded.
• 58:52
  That like clotted and his eye closed during this match.
• 58:56
  It's insane. That magazine covers the dawn of
• 59:01
  the attitude there for me personally.
• 59:04
  I'm going to ask, man, I I can ask a question and I think it
• 59:07
  would open up a can of worms that would let us go off on
• 59:10
  another tangent. But Vader has to be one of the
• 59:13
  most not underused but the most inappropriately used guys that
• 59:21
  used picked up. Both terms misused.
• 59:24
  Misused all three terms. They all.
• 59:26
  Were right like this that guy and I know like this wasn't
• 59:31
  prime Vader, but like Jesus. Man, so good.
• 59:35
  He's so, he's so good. We covered the Michaels Vader
• 59:40
  match. I mean that any combination,
• 59:44
  Vader and somebody always works. You.
• 59:46
  Always. Think you think Vince thought he
• 59:49
  had like the WCW stench on? Him.
• 59:51
  Yeah, Probably. Maybe.
• 59:54
  But then. But then he goes off and he does
• 59:56
  Boy Meets World like. This.
• 59:58
  Is a big teddy bear at that point.
• 1:00:00
  Like Vince comes in, he neuters. It's a Mastodon, you know.
• 1:00:04
  And then he, like, Vader, like, goes away, like, right.
• 1:00:07
  There's nothing in professional wrestling he does like the last
• 1:00:10
  significant thing he does feels like Boy Meets World.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah, that's it's kind of sad. It is because he would have
• 1:00:18
  been. He's like the greatest, kind of
• 1:00:19
  like territory heel that you can imagine.
• 1:00:23
  Oh my God, without a doubt, he's just.
• 1:00:26
  Big and he can move too like he's he like moves like Bam Bam
• 1:00:30
  Bigelow in my mind, right, like he's like the same kind of
• 1:00:33
  agility cat like. Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  I'm a fan. Oh 100% we need to cover some
• 1:00:41
  more Vader on the extra cooler show.
• 1:00:43
  Maybe when we return in the fall?
• 1:00:46
  I think I think in this kind of match too, he's the perfect
• 1:00:50
  addition because it's like a brings the chaos variable to it
• 1:00:54
  and he makes like you want to see all three of those other
• 1:00:58
  guys with Vader more than like, you know, anything.
• 1:01:00
  Sure, Brett and Austin, of course, Brett and under, you
• 1:01:03
  know, like any other combination, but like bring him
• 1:01:05
  into Vader like it's a different, different story.
• 1:01:08
  His legitimacy to it, whether it's him being completely busted
• 1:01:12
  open or it's those gnarly fists that he throws around and
• 1:01:16
  catches Austin with them in particular.
• 1:01:18
  And like, watching him throw hands is crazy still to this
• 1:01:22
  day. He brings some believability to
• 1:01:25
  the undertaker and the toughness of undertaker also I.
• 1:01:29
  Mean that's that was my take away watching this is that I was
• 1:01:32
  like Undertaker looks pretty good in this match like right,
• 1:01:35
  like I was like, oh, this is the Undertaker.
• 1:01:37
  I kind of like actually like he's a quicker, he's physical,
• 1:01:42
  not that he wasn't. Halfway between grey and purple
• 1:01:46
  Undertaker and not quite American badass, but this is
• 1:01:49
  that weird mid ground in between the two where he's still talking
• 1:01:53
  about death and rest in peace but.
• 1:01:55
  Yeah, you're like he's. Not full out.
• 1:01:58
  Promos get it talking about getting back to the old ways,
• 1:02:00
  right? He's about, I mean, he's about
• 1:02:01
  to be the champion for, right, one of his kind of few times as
• 1:02:06
  champion, right? This and also this match makes
• 1:02:09
  me want to it made me want to go back and find more Vader things
• 1:02:13
  to the point where on over the weekend we were like just
• 1:02:17
  messing around with the house, like kind of doing stuff
• 1:02:19
  constantly. And I went and put on on WWE
• 1:02:23
  vault. There's just like Vader's
• 1:02:26
  greatest things. And I just put it on the
• 1:02:27
  background, like my kids were on their iPad, my wife was doing
• 1:02:31
  something and I was like, let me just put this on in the
• 1:02:33
  background. Just like, and it's like it goes
• 1:02:35
  through like 2 1/2 hours of just Vader crap.
• 1:02:39
  And it's like, there's no like chronological order to it or
• 1:02:42
  anything. It's just Vader's bad ass
• 1:02:44
  matches. And this guy is so good.
• 1:02:47
  And it's it's awesome. Awesome.
• 1:02:50
  He's the textbook pro wrestler from from the era.
• 1:02:53
  I mean, did anybody? Catch at at some point.
• 1:02:56
  Where? Austin goes to stun the
• 1:02:59
  undertaker. Did you guys catch this part?
• 1:03:02
  He like it's it's right after undertaker goes and and blocks
• 1:03:07
  the chair and Vader starts like bleeding and then Austin goes
• 1:03:12
  over to undertaker in the most awkward way, grabs him by the
• 1:03:16
  neck and it looks like he's going to do like a ravishing
• 1:03:18
  Rick rude neck breaker, but then like stops halfway and gives him
• 1:03:23
  the stone cold stunner. So imagine like a stone cold
• 1:03:26
  stunner, but like on his side and he's taking it like sideways
• 1:03:31
  as I'm demonstrating it to you guys.
• 1:03:34
  Like I don't, I don't. I wish I grabbed the time the
• 1:03:38
  the time on the pay-per-view because it's the most awkward
• 1:03:40
  looking stunner. How do I do the most awkward
• 1:03:42
  stunner of all time? That's why like those, the old
• 1:03:45
  stunners are great. Like it's they're not all like
• 1:03:48
  the classic bouncy stunner you know they're.
• 1:03:50
  No kick yet, even sometimes. Yeah, no, they're more blunt
• 1:03:54
  and. Yeah, it's it's nasty.
• 1:03:58
  Actually it was King that was talking about a king even says
• 1:04:00
  he hits a, you know, a somewhat of a stunner.
• 1:04:03
  I don't remember the exact verbiage, but it was definitely
• 1:04:06
  called attention to very early out the gate.
• 1:04:10
  All right, so listen, this match is is all over the place as you
• 1:04:16
  would expect goes 24 minutes. There's a ton of spots that are
• 1:04:21
  in it. I'm trying to find my first
• 1:04:24
  elimination. We do get that little tease spot
• 1:04:28
  of Stone Cold Invader, which are just like causing havoc outside
• 1:04:32
  the ring, doing anything they can.
• 1:04:34
  We we cut to backstage probably like 10 minutes in, 15 minutes
• 1:04:38
  in with Sid backstage and he's doing like the most classic Sid
• 1:04:42
  things. He's sitting there and he's
• 1:04:44
  just, I'm convinced he likes the way that his ramen noodle hair
• 1:04:49
  feels up against like his neck, head back and forth, like
• 1:04:55
  swinging it so fast. And he's just like, looking at
• 1:04:58
  the camera, looking at the camera, looking at the
• 1:05:00
  television that's playing the match, clenching his fists with
• 1:05:03
  his like, brown leather vest on. I like that.
• 1:05:07
  It's like, you know, like the classic meme is Brett watching
• 1:05:10
  the TV in the back and it's like he's watching Goldberg or
• 1:05:12
  something. I forget what it is, but I love
• 1:05:14
  like Vader. I mean, I'm sorry, Sid watching
• 1:05:17
  the TV too. Like it's even better.
• 1:05:19
  Like you said, he's just like he's very kinetic.
• 1:05:21
  He's moving constantly. Emoting.
• 1:05:23
  No reason. Yeah, emoting for no reason.
• 1:05:25
  It makes me think of how does he watch TV normally, right?
• 1:05:28
  Like like he's watching. I don't know what lost he's
• 1:05:32
  like. Just smoke monster.
• 1:05:36
  Jack, damn it, I'm sorry. Yeah, Lost.
• 1:05:40
  That's a dated reference, but that's all I got there.
• 1:05:42
  Like, but yeah, he's like just I, I love watching TV.
• 1:05:46
  So did you guys. I I know I sent it to all of you
• 1:05:51
  and I said I was so enthralled with this episode of Chris Van
• 1:05:56
  Fleet of Dan Soder and Sasso on it.
• 1:06:01
  It's it's two hours. I mowed my lawn to it and I
• 1:06:04
  laughed my ass off. I probably look like the biggest
• 1:06:06
  Jackass out there, but this whole interview is so great.
• 1:06:11
  There's one point where Dan Soder, I can't even take take
• 1:06:15
  credit for it. He references Sid and how he
• 1:06:18
  talks with his mouth, mouth closed all the time.
• 1:06:21
  And he's like, I've never said this out loud, but I always knew
• 1:06:26
  my mom was mad when she started to speak like Sid Justice and
• 1:06:30
  her teeth were clenched and nothing could get through her
• 1:06:34
  teeth. And I was just like, Oh my God,
• 1:06:36
  we talk about that and think about that all the time.
• 1:06:40
  Like Sid Vicious and Justice has such a way of talking.
• 1:06:43
  It's. Fantastic.
• 1:06:44
  Must have been the easiest podcast to record for Chris
• 1:06:48
  like. Oh my God, he, he, he barely
• 1:06:50
  speaks in it. And he he probably has to hit
• 1:06:52
  mute the entire time because those two guys.
• 1:06:56
  After you're done with this. Episode.
• 1:06:57
  Go and listen to that episode, it is worth worth the price of
• 1:07:02
  $0.00 admission. So let's get.
• 1:07:06
  Back to the next. Yeah, sorry, sorry.
• 1:07:08
  Your. First elimination comes out of
• 1:07:10
  no cold. It almost feels like this match
• 1:07:12
  comes to a lull, Like you're seeing this crazy shit with
• 1:07:16
  Vader getting busted open. There's blood everywhere.
• 1:07:18
  You've got all of these cool matchups and then a lot.
• 1:07:21
  Of outside. They're on the outside a lot
• 1:07:25
  too. Yes, and then?
• 1:07:26
  Without going over the top. It just cuts back to Austin on
• 1:07:31
  Brett's shoulders and then Austin just gets dumped out over
• 1:07:34
  the top because. Fireman's carry Fireman.
• 1:07:36
  'S carry. And the camera doesn't catch it
• 1:07:39
  and Austin just kind of goes away like he he doesn't.
• 1:07:42
  He accepts it. Yeah, he accepts it and walks
• 1:07:44
  out a moment on that to be very strange.
• 1:07:47
  I agree. The whole thing is if you get
• 1:07:49
  eliminated like that in the rumble, you'd be like, oh God,
• 1:07:51
  yeah, it's not dramatic at all. So after that he won the Ripple
• 1:07:57
  too. That's the thing.
• 1:07:58
  Like like. He should be the first one.
• 1:08:01
  Excellent point, Yeah. Brett and Undertaker are
• 1:08:03
  brawling out with each other. Vader's like just recovering in
• 1:08:07
  the corner, his mask is soaked in blood.
• 1:08:10
  The the top is like coming apart.
• 1:08:13
  We get another cut to to Psycho Sid backstage watching TV,
• 1:08:18
  shaking his head, clenching his fists.
• 1:08:20
  But then we get Paul Bearer, who interferes, attacks the
• 1:08:22
  Undertaker with the urn outside the ring.
• 1:08:25
  And this is when we get a little taste of Brett and Vader inside
• 1:08:29
  the ring. And it's like, oh, oh, to me,
• 1:08:33
  I'm watching this. And I'm like, God give me why
• 1:08:36
  didn't they figured? This out earlier right?
• 1:08:40
  Seriously. It's like everybody gushes about
• 1:08:42
  Sean and Vader together in that In Your House match, which was
• 1:08:46
  fantastic, but these two together, I feel like Brett
• 1:08:50
  would have. Soon as they saw that, they
• 1:08:51
  should have been like, oh, let's do Brett and Vader now, right?
• 1:08:54
  Brett gets Vader and Sharpshooter.
• 1:08:56
  Undertaker breaks it up like an idiot and then throws throws
• 1:09:01
  Brett through the ropes like what do you?
• 1:09:04
  This is one of my biggest gripes in professional wrestling.
• 1:09:07
  You're down to the final three men.
• 1:09:10
  Right in the corner. We'll sit in the corner, let him
• 1:09:12
  make let him make him tap out the sharpshooter or pick up
• 1:09:16
  Brett and throw him over the goddamn top rope.
• 1:09:18
  You should be it. Undertaker is a dim wit, you
• 1:09:21
  know. Yeah, he's got the teardrops, so
• 1:09:24
  it all checks out. Despite being eliminated, Stone
• 1:09:27
  Cold interferes in the match tax spread.
• 1:09:29
  Hart Vader goes for a Vader bomb off the top rope, but Undertaker
• 1:09:33
  hits a low blow and Vader throws him over the top.
• 1:09:36
  Vader does the classic, like, bounces a little too many times
• 1:09:39
  up there and he's like, wait, where'd he go?
• 1:09:44
  Oh God, I do think it's interesting.
• 1:09:47
  Right after Vader gets thrown over the top rope, they cut to
• 1:09:51
  the camera like the hard Cam and it's like it's shaking.
• 1:09:55
  And Lawler even references the fact that that the arena is
• 1:10:00
  shaking and it it, it times out beautifully.
• 1:10:04
  Brett Hart and Undertaker, the last two guys I want remaining,
• 1:10:09
  are the final two participants. We get a chokeslam to Brett,
• 1:10:13
  followed by a tombstone on Brett Hart.
• 1:10:16
  But as he's getting him up, Stone Cold grabs Brett's ankle.
• 1:10:21
  Undertaker's trying to get Austin off the top rope.
• 1:10:23
  After that, Brett clotheslines him off the top rope or over the
• 1:10:28
  top rope to go on and win. It's, it's weird this match,
• 1:10:34
  right? Brett wins his fourth
• 1:10:36
  championship. It's a big deal.
• 1:10:39
  Final 4th. Championship.
• 1:10:40
  Yeah, the Final four is over with.
• 1:10:43
  This match is absolutely fantastic.
• 1:10:47
  But then we get like a it's like a commercial break and then we
• 1:10:51
  get Brett celebrating the ring as Sid comes down and they face
• 1:10:55
  off and kind of tease Raw the next night.
• 1:11:03
  It's Jr. Why don't we give cans in the
• 1:11:04
  cooler, right? Because I feel like it's
• 1:11:06
  appropriate to give this match, forget about the whole
• 1:11:08
  pay-per-view and let's focus solely on this Final four and
• 1:11:13
  somebody give it cans in the cooler because I have mine.
• 1:11:16
  I'm going to start. I'm going to start.
• 1:11:17
  I'll start. How about that?
• 1:11:18
  Is that fair? Yes.
• 1:11:20
  Do I start too many times? No, no, I'm going to.
• 1:11:23
  Go. I think Matt wants it to go,
• 1:11:24
  but. Go, Matt, Go, go.
• 1:11:26
  Jim, please, by all means, I'm going to say you look. 4.5.
• 1:11:32
  All right, nice. I I, I wanted to say 4.25
• 1:11:36
  because it is underrated, like or like it's doesn't, it's not
• 1:11:40
  in the spotlight. Like there's like that aspect to
• 1:11:43
  it. Like it's not.
• 1:11:44
  I don't know why it's not more popular than it is.
• 1:11:47
  I agree But I find like it's like it's what you want in a
• 1:11:51
  wrestling match. Like this is like I'll say a lot
• 1:11:54
  of times that like the action figures smashing against each
• 1:11:57
  other is a bad match but this is like the best example of that.
• 1:12:01
  I think it's like 4 superstars, like 4 different distinct styles
• 1:12:07
  too, slamming against each other.
• 1:12:10
  And it works, man. It is so good.
• 1:12:13
  This is like this is pro wrestling in a nutshell to me.
• 1:12:15
  This is like the kind of match you want to watch.
• 1:12:17
  I think if you're at a live show especially so I think Nick said
• 1:12:21
  this to us on the side, right? I'll let you expand upon that
• 1:12:24
  point. But this is what you want.
• 1:12:26
  This is what you want. So I'll, I'll jump in there
• 1:12:30
  because you you let it to me. But I this match reminded me a
• 1:12:34
  lot of being in the house for SummerSlam and that four way
• 1:12:38
  match of Roman Reigns, Sumojo, Braun Strowman and Brock Lesnar
• 1:12:43
  at SummerSlam, that these were very similar matches.
• 1:12:48
  Everything happens outside the ring.
• 1:12:50
  A lot of just big men that you wouldn't expect to be going at
• 1:12:54
  it. It's fantastic.
• 1:12:56
  This match. I give 4 1/2 cans in the cooler
• 1:12:58
  too. I wanted to give it 5 cans in
• 1:13:01
  the cooler. I I really did.
• 1:13:03
  I absolutely loved everything I saw.
• 1:13:06
  I remember watching it. I remember liking it.
• 1:13:09
  I wanted to give it 5 cans in the cooler.
• 1:13:11
  But I think the whole over the top premise is misused and not
• 1:13:18
  necessary. Which is like stick to one or
• 1:13:20
  the other, right? Like like nobody gets pinned or
• 1:13:23
  submits. So like, get rid of.
• 1:13:25
  Get rid of that then. Right.
• 1:13:28
  And the over the top thing just doesn't like, I don't know you.
• 1:13:32
  See, they didn't know what they wanted to.
• 1:13:33
  Eliminate and rumble with ease. Like why?
• 1:13:36
  Why? At no point nobody teams up to
• 1:13:38
  eliminate anybody. You ever know that?
• 1:13:41
  Like little flaws in the storytelling.
• 1:13:44
  So that's why I can't go 5 but still 4 1/2.
• 1:13:48
  This. This might be this might be this
• 1:13:51
  might be a bold statement also, but this might be the most
• 1:13:55
  underrated and underappreciated main event that we've ever
• 1:13:58
  covered on this show. Especially the what it leads
• 1:14:01
  into. Yes, Mikey, what do you got?
• 1:14:07
  I got 4 1/2 also. Oh, look at this.
• 1:14:09
  Four and. 1/2. Cans that's either serving up
• 1:14:12
  shots or doing a shot. So yeah, I thought, you know, I
• 1:14:18
  wanted to give it 5 also, but couple of the eliminations like
• 1:14:22
  Sal Stone Cold went over like so easy, like nonchalant at the
• 1:14:27
  end, the undertaker just like a clothesline out and then it's
• 1:14:30
  over. Like I could have gone for a
• 1:14:33
  little better. Like eliminations, little.
• 1:14:35
  Dramatic little. More yeah, but the match is
• 1:14:40
  incredible the I of the competitors are incredible like
• 1:14:44
  watch it again if you haven't watched in a long time yeah
• 1:14:47
  that's. My recommendation?
• 1:14:49
  I have been teetering back and forth between 4:00 and 1/4 and
• 1:14:52
  four and a half. Let's pour the shots.
• 1:14:54
  Let's go 4 1/2 years. I love this match and I think
• 1:15:03
  what's pushing me to the 4 1/2 is the historical importance
• 1:15:08
  that this carries. And I didn't even realize it
• 1:15:11
  walking in and the fact that Jr. is screaming that Austin is
• 1:15:16
  obsessed with getting to Bret Hart throughout this match.
• 1:15:20
  And then they go on and they have continuation of that story
• 1:15:25
  on Raw the next night. But I'll get there in a minute
• 1:15:27
  when I start talking about that. But like the crowd responses to
• 1:15:31
  Vader getting eliminated and just the the arena shaking the
• 1:15:35
  blood and the Vader of it all throughout this entire match is
• 1:15:39
  unbelievable. Just the The X Factor that he is
• 1:15:43
  for the entertainment purposes, for the legitimacy of this
• 1:15:46
  match, for everything. I loved it all and then having
• 1:15:52
  this all being under the guise of a pivot too of like this is
• 1:15:56
  what they threw together because Sean went away is really damn
• 1:16:00
  cool. So I I loved this match.
• 1:16:04
  The action is worth the price of admission and definitely seek it
• 1:16:08
  out. What was the original?
• 1:16:12
  Final four, do you think here? Like was it Brett, Austin, Sean
• 1:16:17
  and Sid? Like I.
• 1:16:19
  Think it was the final four. I don't think it was the final
• 1:16:21
  four. Right, right.
• 1:16:22
  Agree. No, it wasn't like just two
• 1:16:23
  matches. Just like, yeah, maybe I think
• 1:16:27
  that's a great point, Matt said. The pivot like I think this is
• 1:16:29
  the best pivot of all time maybe.
• 1:16:31
  Like they, they absolutely deliver.
• 1:16:34
  And then the next night, the Austin and Brett storyline
• 1:16:37
  continues. Now Raw kicks off.
• 1:16:39
  I went through and I just kind of scanned it.
• 1:16:41
  So Raw kicks off with Sid coming down to the ring for the match.
• 1:16:46
  So like the match is supposed to happen right out the gate.
• 1:16:49
  Brett comes down to the ring, but before the bell can ring,
• 1:16:53
  Austin comes in and attacks not only Brett, but then comes in
• 1:16:57
  and lands a chop block onto Sid and takes it out.
• 1:17:01
  Sid is screaming his head off. He's screaming, damn it, damn
• 1:17:05
  it. I'm going to watch.
• 1:17:07
  This yes, clenched rolling on the mat and then one of the ref
• 1:17:13
  comes up to him. Yeah, getting the the the ramen
• 1:17:16
  hair going and I'm going to drop another F bomb here.
• 1:17:18
  But like in the background, the camera catches Sid screaming at
• 1:17:23
  a ref. That motherfucker hit me in the
• 1:17:25
  knee, you asshole. Unbelievable shit.
• 1:17:29
  Oh my God. Then halfway through the the
• 1:17:31
  evening more shit happens in the back.
• 1:17:35
  Halfway through the evening the the match starts up again and
• 1:17:39
  Austin buries it again by attacking Brett in the back so
• 1:17:42
  the match doesn't start a second time.
• 1:17:44
  Finally it happens in the main event and spoiler alert here,
• 1:17:49
  Austin comes out to the ring, delivers a Hulk Hogan WCW level
• 1:17:55
  whack ass chair shot to the back of Brett and I remember calls
• 1:17:59
  him. That's what causes him the
• 1:18:01
  match. On top of it.
• 1:18:03
  Sid Psycho Sid comes out here and delivers the weakest,
• 1:18:08
  cheesiest powerbomb, but he's literally holding the back of
• 1:18:12
  Bret Hart as he guides. Like I would do to my son on the
• 1:18:15
  couch. Absolutely that.
• 1:18:17
  And then Undertaker comes out, gets in Sid's face and here we
• 1:18:21
  are. We're off to the races for
• 1:18:22
  WrestleMania 13 'cause you got Taker Sid and you have Brett
• 1:18:25
  Austin and. I just undertaker do I don't
• 1:18:29
  remember why does he get the shot?
• 1:18:33
  I don't remember myself either. Doesn't I feel like Sid also
• 1:18:36
  cuts like a quick promo on Brett too?
• 1:18:38
  Like he's like take a nice ride home.
• 1:18:40
  Wait a minute. Yes.
• 1:18:42
  Yep, but man it is it was a treat to just scan through the
• 1:18:47
  raw. I didn't watch any of the other
• 1:18:49
  matches. I literally just scanned through
• 1:18:50
  it and was like OK cool this I'm going to.
• 1:18:52
  I see. One, for all it's faults, that's
• 1:18:54
  the raw that sucked me back in. Man, I was like hell yeah, I was
• 1:18:57
  big on Sid. I thought Sid was the man.
• 1:19:00
  I was like, hell yeah, this guy is awesome.
• 1:19:03
  At me in the Discord and tell me there's a better era of
• 1:19:07
  professional wrestling than 9697.
• 1:19:10
  I dare you. Go back and watch this build.
• 1:19:13
  Like all this stuff happening, it's like just swelling up
• 1:19:18
  there. And it's so cool to me.
• 1:19:19
  Like, I find it so intriguing to go back and watch it as we've
• 1:19:24
  done. The major players are just so
• 1:19:28
  good too, Like they're just yes. Yes, and want to talk about
• 1:19:31
  that, if you go on Wikipedia, I don't know how true this is.
• 1:19:36
  Did you see this? Did anybody see this?
• 1:19:37
  There's a a dark match that happens after the pay-per-view.
• 1:19:41
  I had no idea, no idea. Bret Hart, the new newly crowned
• 1:19:46
  champion. Facing.
• 1:19:48
  Off against Hunter Hurst Helmsley in a dark match.
• 1:19:52
  And they go. Almost 9 minutes.
• 1:19:57
  Like that's insane to me that. That I knew they got.
• 1:20:00
  A child. Right.
• 1:20:01
  I don't know. I'm assuming something with
• 1:20:03
  Austin happens and that's why it's a disqualification.
• 1:20:06
  I didn't dig enough into it, but the fact that that is on the
• 1:20:09
  Wikipedia page as a dark match, like the fact that they felt in
• 1:20:13
  that era. Could you imagine in that in in
• 1:20:16
  Nowadays, after a main event, we're gonna go and be.
• 1:20:19
  Like we're gonna give nothing now.
• 1:20:21
  Yeah. No, no.
• 1:20:22
  You gotta you gotta give the crowd something else.
• 1:20:24
  Send Honky. Send Honky Tonk man back out
• 1:20:26
  there. Right.
• 1:20:28
  It's wild. By the way, Honky Tonk Man is
• 1:20:30
  probably there because it's Elvis.
• 1:20:33
  Is Tennessee Graceland? Yes, that's probably what that
• 1:20:37
  was about. Sorry.
• 1:20:39
  Just don't watch the pay-per-view.
• 1:20:41
  Go watch this main event. It might even be on YouTube for
• 1:20:44
  all we know because they like to throw these big matches on
• 1:20:46
  there. Even if you want to watch the
• 1:20:48
  whole pay-per-view, it's less than two hours or something like
• 1:20:50
  that, right? And there's like beauty of the
• 1:20:51
  new house, four matches, four matches, and you got the Shawn
• 1:20:54
  thing in there. It's interesting.
• 1:20:55
  There's interesting. Stuff.
• 1:20:56
  It really is the China debut. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:20:58
  And. It is Triple H and the Rock for
• 1:21:00
  the first time. Yeah, it's huge.
• 1:21:02
  Yeah. Furnace.
• 1:21:03
  Is. Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Damn. You tell me.
• 1:21:07
  You let us know which one is which in the discord, please.
• 1:21:10
  Who is Furnace? Who is Lafong?
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