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Unlocking Leadership Authority & Confidence · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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You are giving people the opportunity to find their own
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answers, just as I have and connect back in to themself.
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So what is it that you believe is the way that you get people
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to kind of reclaim their leadership or, or their, you
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know, their gift and, and be able to step into the unknown?
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What is it that helps them to be able to obviously embrace that
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path? I'm going to say this in all
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humility, Terry. It's because they trust me.
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No, I believe that. That we have created an
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atmosphere where they know that everything we talk about is
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confidential. They know I hold them capable.
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I know that they are energetically strong and that
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they have their own answers. Excellent, excellent.
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Knowing that and knowing that I'm listening to them, knowing
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that I care about their success, they know they are in control of
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the agenda. That feeling that I'm going to
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hold them, they can't mess up, they can't say anything wrong.
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Hey, hey, hey. And welcome, welcome Catherine
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to the Genius Zone. How are you on this fine day?
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I am just fantastic, Terry. Thank you so much for having me.
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Now you've got a lot of letters after your name.
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Would you like to explain? Because we're going to be
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talking and bringing power to the audience.
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We're going to be going into leadership to unlock people's
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confidence. We're going to really dissolve
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any self doubt that people have. And you're going to do a live
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demonstration on how to ground a person and really step them into
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their power. So all that to look forward to,
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but let's talk about all these letters that are running after
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your name. It's so interesting.
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People rarely ask me that question, so thank you for that.
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I did a doctorate in education at Arizona State University.
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I have been working in the Canadian Arctic and I wanted a
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completely different cultural and geographical experience, so
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that was a wonderful place for me to go.
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And there were people there that I really wanted to study with.
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So that was fantastic. And after career teaching and as
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an administrator in colleges and universities, I pivoted a little
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bit into coaching. And so I am a certified
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executive coach and I am certified with the International
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Coaching Federation as a professional certified coach.
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I'm also a mentor coach, which means that I work with people
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who are renewing their certificates with the
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International Coaching Federation, and we do a lot of
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work around competencies, around people's mindsets and what
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they're bringing to coaching. So yeah, that's what the letters
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mean, and that those are the doors that those letters opened
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for me. Yeah.
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And they all lead into this beautiful, expansive, wonderful,
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empowering service that you do offer to people.
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Now I'm going to like break the absolute fallacy of what people
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quite often think and what people expect.
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And that is that people in high level leadership roles always
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confident in themself and always feeling like they're in that
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level of power. And the fact is that some of
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those leaders and some of those people that are in those roles
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are actually suffering with deep depreciating elements of
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themselves. So I'm going to ask a question
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here. Do you feel that the driver of
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ambitious people who are up there at the top is that they
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expect too much of themself and they they're prejudging themself
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and they're not good enough? Where do you think their lack of
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self-confidence comes from? Because in the genius zone, and
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I'm just gonna throw this out there, much of people's power
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comes from their pain. And the more driven that they
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are, the more pain they have endured to to be underneath that
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kind of driving force. So let's breakdown the typical
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person that you obviously work with in their leadership role
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and tell me some of the things that go on for them, because
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obviously even the higher CEOs suffer from lack of confidence.
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That's such a good point, Terry. And I think it's really
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important for us, first of all, to recognize no matter where you
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are in any organization, you have some leadership, you have
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some responsibility to people around you.
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You also have the burdens of responsibility.
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And most of us are extremely judgmental, and many of us are
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very judgmental of ourselves. We have these voices in our
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heads that tell us that we're imposters.
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That will never be good enough. That tell us it doesn't matter
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how much money we make or What Car we drive or what our address
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is, There's more. There's always more.
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And I think over time we realize that that shiny object is always
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out of reach. It's just a little bit beyond
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our grasp. I work for people who come to me
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and say I have my I've met my goals and I'm not happy.
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There has to be more to life than this.
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Yeah. And I think when we move to that
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point that we can really start to unfold what our values really
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are, what our values are. Not the values of the
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corporation, not the values of the society around us, but
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what's really important to us. And once we've clarified that,
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then maybe it's a harder question.
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So how do you have to change to live in those values?
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So if someone says to me that their family is their first
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priority and I see that they emailed me at 2:00 in the
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morning or I see that they sent me a text on Saturday, I'm going
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to be wondering, what's the misalignment here?
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This is what you're saying, and this is what you're doing.
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Wow. Yeah, look, in my world,
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misalignment is the absolute gap in everyone's problem because we
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don't even know and we don't realise we're doing it.
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But this is where we come unstuck, isn't it?
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It's where we're, we're not honouring ourself because we may
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have our values as family first or those key values of respect
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or love or connection or whatever it is.
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But then on the other hand, we may be doing things that
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completely sabotage that. And then we're wondering why
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we're we're hitting and missing. And I know a lot of the work
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that you're doing is really, you're a master of questions and
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you love to help people to draw their solutions themselves
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through the questions. And you don't have to give any
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advice either, which I feel is one of the greatest things in
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the kind of world we come from, where we don't get burnt out
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from coaching people because we're not giving them the
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answers, we're helping them find the answers.
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And so in a situation where a person has that gap in their
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leadership, what is the 1st place where you will start with
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them? Like obviously you said you've
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emailed me at 2:00 in the morning, you've text me on a
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Saturday. You know what happens from
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there? What is the kind of way that you
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bring them and send to them back or encourage them to find their
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way? Our conversation would probably
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start out with, I noticed this, tell me about that e-mail at
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2:00 in the morning. What was happening for you?
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And they might say, well, I had so many things to do.
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That was the only time of the day that I could do it.
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And then I might say, tell me why that's important to you.
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And let's start to unpack what you feel is really important and
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why is that important to you. That is so powerful.
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And where do you want to go with that?
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And I'm sure everyone can hear these questions.
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And I know with this kind of powerful questions, it's when
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we're asking a person, what is it that you truly want?
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And they may be looking for the love and the connection and the
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elements that you bring around presents because they are your
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three key points. And so love, connection and
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presence to be present in your body to be asking them what is
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it that you truly want? So many people will talk about
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what they don't want and what is the conflict that's going on,
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but when they can really master that one sentence and then, as
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you say, you are then asking them why?
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Why is it that you want that? And I know it's a very
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interesting concept that when you ask them why is that so
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important, they'll go down certain layers.
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And then as you ask them, what's so important about that?
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So for example, it might be important for me to feel
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respected and appreciated and that might be at the top of my
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list. But then as we go down into the
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funnel, so to speak, and we narrow it down at the bottom,
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what we usually discover as coaches is that what's sitting
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at the bottom is the pain of what happened and who, where and
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what happened to create that belief where they didn't feel.
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So, for example, respected or appreciated.
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And in that moment, it's kind of like a landing, isn't it?
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So when you're navigating their discomfort, Catherine, and
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getting them to step into the unknown.
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I mean, leaders are usually, they like to be competent.
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They don't like to have a, to be seen as having a wobble.
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And God help anyone that might come along and criticize them or
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get them to fall off their perch.
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But discomfort, they say when we're uncomfortable, we're
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growing and we're we're really stretching.
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What do you think is the reason that a lot of these leaders
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don't like going into the unknown though?
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It's frightening. Yeah.
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It might be uncontrollable, right?
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It it might challenge the skills that we think we have, we might
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be a failure. Right.
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Yes, yes. And so that sense of ourselves
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as being in control, as being the expert in the room, we might
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have to question that. And if we're not the expert in
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the room, who are we? Yeah, yes, yes.
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And do you encourage them to step into the unknown?
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Because I know that I myself, I mean, I'm what I do, I can do
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with my eyes shut and I'm transforming people in my sleep.
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I believe that leadership has made me weak in some ways in
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itself. So being a leader like I, I
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believe I'm the sort of person that came from being an
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unemployable in the greatest sense possible, a born CEO to
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the point where being a non conformist and everything else,
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I was not the person that would just kind of like work in the
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average and just be status quo. I either excelled and I was like
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that as a child as well. I excelled and I was up there in
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the top 5% or I was down there in the bottom 5%.
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But it comes a point in life when we get challenged and I
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know as a leader, I'm working in radio at the moment.
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And that I mean, you've experienced because you and I
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have had, this is our third time getting together.
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And I say third time lucky here. And the other two times has been
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a technical issue. And I become so paralysed by
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fear through the technology not working and through me not being
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competent because I'm so used to being competent that I shut
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down, my brain shuts off. And it's like, I do not want to
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know about it. I, I don't want to know about it
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because I don't like making mistakes.
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But I think because I don't like making mistakes, I make a ton of
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them and we all make mistakes. It's just the way that we are.
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And rather than seeing it as growth, I stepping into the
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unknown it I can say it from me to you like I could be your very
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best client right here and now. I am so in fear.
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I am so in fear of that, that kind of difference.
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And yet I want to do it and I love doing that, but I become in
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my head and I lose my presence and I know that this is where
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you come in and I almost zone out.
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So have you got any advice for me on that?
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Have some questions? I I have a question.
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How do you want your body to feel in that circumstance?
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Exactly what you said as the opposite of why leaders are the
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way they are when they step into the unknown.
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I want to feel in control, and I feel completely out of control.
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But you asked me a question, and I ought to do my very best to
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answer that in the truth of yeah, I want to feel totally in
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control, right? So the first place to start is
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with our bodies. How are you going to feel
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control in your body? Well, that's a $64 million
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question right there. How am I going to feel control
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in my body? It's almost like I did.
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AI went to a festival of healing the other day and I tell you, I
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did a workshop and the room was booked out.
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It was amazing and it was standing room only in the end.
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But during the course of the day, I decided to have some
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healing from one of the other coaches.
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And what they needed to do is they needed to kind of step into
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my aura. This is bringing me back to the
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answer to your question. And as they were sort of like
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doing a scan, if you will. So it's almost a little bit like
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Reiki, but I feel it's slightly got a little bit more of, I
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think they're doing a little bit more science and medical
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intervention behind it. And it's called pragic healing.
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And so as they zip around your aura and they go right through.
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And it's interesting what they said because they said that at
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the moment my head and my gut not connected my head and they
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picked it up. They said your wisdom, your
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third eye is absolutely amazing, which it is.
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My intuition is on steroids. Like I know stuff that I
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shouldn't know about. And I'm like, Oh my gosh.
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However, my head and they picked this up is too busy and it's not
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connecting properly with my body.
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So I have been asking myself that $64 million question since
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that festival of healing. What can I do to connect this
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with the gut and bring it together?
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And would you have any suggestions for me?
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Can we try something? I'd love to.
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I'd like you to put your hand in your heart space and if you feel
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comfortable, close your eyes and I want you just to start
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breathing slowly into that heart space and start to feel your
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heart beating. And maybe just sigh out that
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breath and take another bigger breath and sigh that out.
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Now we're going to breathe into that heart.
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I'd like you to imagine that there's energy there, a little
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ball of blue energy, and it's starting to spread from your
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heart all through your body, and it's warming your whole body.
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We're going to have you take one more breath, breathe it out, and
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open your eyes. What are you feeling in your
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body? Wow, yeah, I'm connected.
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I feel like I'm in my body and yeah, and that, that's amazing.
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So. Amazing.
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From where you are now, Terry in that presence had a technical
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glitch right now. How would you respond from this
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place where you are now? I know that I would feel calm
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enough to be able. I think it's a good question
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because when we're calm and we are in our body, we have more
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space and almost like we've just got more time with expanded
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time. And so I would be able to then
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think more clearly. So that that's a revelation
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right there because I go into panic mode because I'm living in
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my head and I'm out of my comfort zone, like doing the
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technology and stuff like that, especially with radio.
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So to be able to pull back and do that breath work and really
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zone into the heart space. And I love the fact that you've
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brought around this vision of expanding that feeling right
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through the body. And the automatic thing to
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answer your question is I would, it's almost like time changes
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and I would literally end the broadcast and then restart it.
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Now that would mean that I would be able to have one the chapter
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that we've done and connect them both together.
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So that has been done before on the show.
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It hasn't happened a lot, but it has happened.
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But I would have the presence of mind to do that.
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So I think the key is with the work that you're doing, you are
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giving people the opportunity to find their own answers, just as
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I have, and connect back in to themself.
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So what is it that you believe is the way that you get people
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to kind of reclaim their leadership or their gift and be
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able to step into the unknown? What is it that helps them to be
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able to obviously embrace that path?
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I'm going to say this in all humility, Terry.
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It's because they trust me. I believe that.
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That we have created an atmosphere where they know that
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everything we talk about is confidential.
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They know I hold them capable. I know that they are
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energetically strong and that they have their own answers.
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Excellent. Excellent.
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Knowing that and knowing that I'm listening to them, knowing
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that I care about their success, they know they are in control of
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the agenda, not feeling that I'm going to hold them.
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They can't mess up. They can't say anything wrong.
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The hour that we spend together is their time if all they want
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to do is vent, or if all they wanted to do was sit there for
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an hour in silence and we look at each other.
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Line with me. And do you feel that getting
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them to that level of what you do, because this is what you do
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where you get them to own their authority and you get them to
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own their energy and you also get them to own the fact that
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when they walk into a room, they need to own it.
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What do you think is the biggest problem?
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Why they have it? Like what have they been doing?
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Are they usually walking into a room and shrinking back or
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hoping that they can just be go Incognito?
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I would say it's different for different people.
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Sometimes it's especially for people who are new in a role.
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They can hardly believe they're in the role and all of the work
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is just coming at them like a fire hose.
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And so when, and I'm thinking right now about a conversation I
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had with a client about exactly this topic, she had been told
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she needed more executive presence.
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And so I said, what do you think that is?
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And so we talked about some of her ideas, and over the course
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of the conversation, what started to emerge for her was
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that executive presence was her being true to herself.
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Right. Oh, that's very powerful.
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And, and I think that is a journey for people.
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We're very often not encouraged or not rewarded to be who we
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are. We're encouraged to be better or
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smarter or take on more responsibility or charge harder
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through the politics without really having somebody say to us
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you're fine, just as you are. You are enough.
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You are enough. Yeah.
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And let's think about the strengths.
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Let's appreciate who you are and what you're bringing.
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And you're not going to look like the person you succeeded.
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You might not look like any of your peer leaders at this table.
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So what are you bringing? That's your gift.
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What are you bringing that nobody else can bring?
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And once we establish that there's value there, that helps
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people shift their perspective on themselves a little bit.
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Right. Wow, that's incredible.
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Now you talk about the three keys, which are obviously your
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values as a person who is really empowering coaches and even high
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level people that presence, connection and love are three of
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the cornerstones of your obviously the core of what
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you're bringing to the table here.
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Can I ask where those findings came from and how you stumbled
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over those three powerful keys? Can I tell you a little story?
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I'd love to hear one. I grew up in a very close knit
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family and when my parents brought me home from the
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hospital we were living with my grandfather and my grandfather
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loved babies and my grandfather was only at home on the
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weekends. He had employment away from home
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and so I would be in the baby buggy by the stove.
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I grew up on a farm. This is a long time ago.
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And my grandfather would come in and he called me Tutz and he'd
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say hi Tutz. And I would be waving my arms
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and my legs and he would come and pick me up.
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And the family story is that as soon as he got me, he wouldn't
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put me down. He would eat with one hand so he
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could hold me. And on Saturday mornings when my
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mom was trying to clean the house, he'd go along and put my
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little baby handprint on all the mirrors and all the pictures and
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everything. And when my mom's sister would
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come, they would fight over me. So I heard all these stories.
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I knew that from the moment I came into this world, I was the
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recipient of unconditional love. Wow.
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And it's an absolute. That is a first because there's
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not many people that I get to speak to today that just that
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story and I'm just visualizing the love and the handprints and
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the the voice and just the adoration.
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And that is a absolute rare gem. My husband always had a saying
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that you cannot give away something you haven't got.
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And boy oh boy, you certainly have that.
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Knowing that I think I've, I've been grateful and appreciative
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of that gift. The reading that I've done, the
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studies that I've done has really convinced me that we are
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all connected and that. And I think that when I was
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working with children, when I was working with young teachers,
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I used to say to them, you will fall in love with your students.
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And I even noticed that with my adult students.
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And Bill Torbert, who Jennifer Garvey Berger started with, he
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calls it rising to love that we we use our curiosity, we use our
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sense that people really matter to us to make those connections.
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And I I think that maybe a shorthand way to say that is
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that we see and appreciate the human across from us.
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Does it mean we have to agree on everything?
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Yeah, yeah. We see that spark.
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We see that spark in the other person.
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Yeah. So I love that.
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So I just want to say that we do in the show notes have
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Catherine's contact details. So if you are really ready to
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reconnect with a woman of such fine calibre, that can really
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bring you into your presence and your connection and yourself
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love. And of course, there is that
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element that you bring to the table where I love what you
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said, that you are enough. And I know the hypnotherapist,
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Marisa Pierre always says that too.
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And I'm like, oh, you are enough.
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I mean, is enough enough sort of thing?
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It's really it's if the cup is full, the cup is full.
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There's no point pouring more water into the cup if it's
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already full to the brim. So if you are enough, you are
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already full of, you know what you require.
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And I know that you talked about bringing self trust.
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And I, I want to conclude with your little special secrets that
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you're going to do with me anchoring and perhaps asking a
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question. And I know that for people that
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are really just wanting to be in that space where they're held,
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they want to be able to bring themselves into that level of
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self love, self trust and self worth, then you know, this is
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your woman. And don't be afraid to step into
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the unknown because Catherine will absolutely be able to help
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you to draw yourself trust to be able to step into those spaces
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knowing that you are becoming a more expanded person.
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And I think there is a difference of there's a level of
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discomfort, isn't there? Like I feel a level of
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discomfort in what I was talking to you about before in radio.
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I feel a real level of discomfort.
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But that's not AGPS necessarily saying you're on the wrong path.
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I think there's a difference, isn't there?
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When we're off track, like you brought about in the story at
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the beginning about the person who says that their family
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values are very important, but then they're making calls at
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3:00 AM texting on a Saturday. But how do we know the
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difference between being stretched and being able to step
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into the unknown with confidence to come on?
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You got to get off this path, you're on the wrong track.
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Is there a way of knowing the difference?
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I think one of the questions that we can ask ourselves, or
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sometimes it's helpful to have someone else ask us what's the
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worst thing that can happen? If the worst thing that can
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happen is that you have to record someone in two different
35:12
times and splice the conversation together, nobody
35:18
will know the difference. If the worst thing that can
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happen is that you betray a friend, or that you don't live
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up to your own ideals, maybe that's a clue that you're not in
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the right place. Oh, so let me just open that up
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for a SEC. There's a difference there.
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And you've gone down the path of if you're breaching your own
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morals and values as a person and it's causing you to, I guess
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almost, what's the word where you're almost sabotaging
35:56
yourself, sabotaging who you are as a person.
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So if it's kind of bringing out a bad person in you, is that
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kind of what you're saying? And I think that is the
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question, Terry, who do you want to be?
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Yeah. Who do you want to be and what
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would it take for you to be that person from where you are now?
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Beautiful question. Beautiful question.
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And remember that a single coaching conversation can have
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some transformational moments, but most of us have a lot of
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work to do. Oh, absolutely.
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And if that gets to the point where I know I asked myself a
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question and it probably wasn't a a great question in terms of
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what happened in my life after, but where I am now, that tells a
36:58
different story. But I went through this point of
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when my late husband, he'd first, he'd brought me into the
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world of neuro linguistic programming.
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And I give all thanks to him today for that.
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And I transformed my life so incredibly.
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And I sailed along, living very comfortably.
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And we had a very successful clinic and we just moved along.
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And you, you just, you don't know what you don't know, right
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until you know something else. And then of course, I came into
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the online space and found that because of the technology.
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And that was a challenge. And so hang on a minute.
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My, my Angel wings or my Halo got a bit of a dent.
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It was really testing me for who I was.
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And then as I was building my business online, I asked myself
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the question, what is my next level?
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Because I also knew that new level, new devil sort of thing
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and that you're going to have to face something.
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And boy, oh boy, that was a question that opened up a huge
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element for me because that sort of took me into that next level
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of the challenges that I had through my husband's illness and
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then having my values really challenged where I then
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literally about faced and devoted my whole life to him.
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And of course he passed away from CJD, which is a very rare,
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always fatal disease of a degenerative type where the
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prions fold. And in the whole experience was
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supposed to happen. And whilst I thought in those
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little moments that maybe this is challenging me and this is
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going to wear everything ends for me in my coaching career
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because now I'm dedicated to my husband, it's actually taken me
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to the next level now and I'm actually living his legacy.
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He always said to me, you need to go out there and you need to
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work with the world. You need to do this
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transformational stuff. And that's what keeps me just,
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yeah, I cannot agree more with what you're everything you're
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saying. And I guess that probably leads
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you to your secrets with me now. I, I just want to say, first of
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all, Terry, I'm so sorry that you had to go through that
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mourning and grieving. And what I'm hearing you say
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right now is that life is for the living.
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Yeah, absolutely. Oh, wow, that's profound.
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Yes, life is for living and for the living.
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And in some ways, and I know you've recently had a guest on
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talking about grief, but sometimes I think grief can
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sharpen our presence. It can sharpen our connection.
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It it makes us think and rethink what love is.
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And from what you've shared, it increased your capacity to deal
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with, to deal with new opportunities.
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So instead of. Limiting you or putting you into
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a dark space that that I'm sure you were in, but you also began
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to see that little spark of light.
40:44
Yes. And it's that little spark of
40:47
light that I think is so important.
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Whether we're leaders, whether we've lost our most important
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loved one, whether we're living through some sort of natural
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cataclysm. Yes, we will be undone.
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Yes, we will be in a place of uncertainty and instability.
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And we will move through that. Wow.
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And this too shall pass. You know that.
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So that ancient wisdom is, I think, available to all of us
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when we are able to be centered and we are able to find even 5
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or 10 minutes of silence and space and just to be with
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ourselves. That's so important.
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Wow, that's powerful. That is so powerful.
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I know that you've just spoken into my life, and if that's what
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you're doing to every other client, I can only just say
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that, OK, I've been blessed by hearing your words.
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And there was no advice given either.
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It was a beautiful way of helping me to see things in a
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way that you had heard and coming from a different also
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perspective, which is absolutely beautiful.
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I just want to say, look, I love to ask this question, but what
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is the one thing you'd love to share before we conclude here?
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Today. So first of all, I just want to
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make sure, Terry, do you have everything you need?
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Do you need to take a little deep breath or just shut your
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eyes for a minute before we start?
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I'm absolutely feeling good. Right.
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We're now with you. So I'm very curious to know, can
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you share with me one wonderful thing that's happened to you
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this week? I have been blessed with this
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incredible, I don't know, almost the ability that I feel came
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from the crisis of my husband being an advocate.
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And I have just been informed that I will be supported.
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I've come into a windfall, if you will, through my own
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personal advocation of and it's not about the money either, but
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it's about the fact of where that leads me to freedom.
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Money suddenly has changed forms.
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I've been in a very wealthy position and I am a wealthy
43:50
person. But to put it into the context,
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when you lose your significant other and they have been a
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really good provider, that can create a bit of a wobble.
44:04
And so hearing that, I feel that I'm really deeply supported.
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I can't even express the amount of gratitude that I have to God
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for the support that has come through.
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And I say that with that abundance of finance that's been
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able to really just expand me into being present rather than
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being in a position of, Oh my gosh, looking for where my next,
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you know, what I'm going to do next.
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So I'm very grateful for that. A word that just really popped
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out at me that you used was freedom, and I'm wondering
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what's important about that sense of freedom to you.
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That brought a beautiful deep breath to my whole existence.
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It is the pleasure of being who I am in my entirety, without
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having to be anything else. And when you are that whole
45:13
person, what's important about that?
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That just that's my life force. I I feel it's just dropped, but
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I'm doing I've got a master key, one of billion dollar energy and
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I know that is something that is a gift.
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I feel that energy is a gift to me and I feel that brings my
45:39
life force and really expands it.
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So having that kind of energy and to be really, when I look at
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it, go into that question more deeply, it's not just about me
45:51
because it would be very boring if it was just about me.
45:54
It's about the bigger picture of what that means to what I can do
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for the world and what I can do for others.
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So that it almost allows me to come into my gift, into what I'm
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doing like here and now. Yes.
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So, Terry, as we finish our conversation, what's going to
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help you continue to feel that gratitude for that gift and that
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influence that you can share? The word that popped into my
46:27
head was integration, because it's something that I have not
46:31
ever been good at. I've been a person who runs and
46:35
I run 1000 miles an hour and I don't look back, don't give
46:40
myself time to go, hang on a minute.
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Boom, I have just achieved this and I've achieved this and I've
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achieved this, so nothing's ever enough.
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So it gives me the gift of integrating what and where I am
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and all the things that I have achieved, rather than looking
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out for all the mistakes that I'm making and stepping into the
47:06
fear of the unknown. Terry, how would you like to
47:11
close off our session today? I would like to close off this
47:15
session by thanking you enormously for your generosity,
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and I also want to bring something else to the table too.
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You are one of the most gracious coaches, healers and leaders
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that I have personally worked with.
47:31
And I say that because we have had numerous issues leading up
47:38
and you haven't once come unstuck about any of that.
47:43
Had a person that and this is a them problem.
47:46
And I don't hear me saying anything wrong, but there was 1
47:49
little thing where they hadn't booked and they've done
47:53
something and it doesn't matter because it's, it's really not a
47:56
big problem. And they decided that they
47:59
didn't even want to go ahead with the podcast.
48:01
So they kind of, it's almost like it was a self sabotaging
48:05
way for themselves to just quickly get out of it.
48:08
And I think a lot of this is the thing that happens a lot of the
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time when we're getting afflicted.
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We're not really thinking about what's that person going through
48:18
because it's not really about the attack.
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It's about where they are, and what you have shown to me is
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very, very much of grace. So I just want to thank you so
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much for the grace that you've brought and the wisdom that
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you've brought to the table. And you have certainly,
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absolutely made my day. It's been a lovely conversation,
48:45
Terry. Thank you so much.
48:48
Thank you, Catherine. And that's it for the Genius
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