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Ep. 782: Pearl Farming, Hinge Fishing Spots, and Worst Game Agency Logos | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Theater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
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Speaker 2: That's noon o'clock for our friends in Mitchell, South Dakota.
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Speaker 2: Happy opening week of Pheasant season to everyone there. On Thursday,
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Speaker 2: October twenty third, and we're live for Meet Theater HQ
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Speaker 2: and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Randall
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Speaker 2: and Corey. On today's show, we'll interview Josh Humbert, a
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Speaker 2: pearl farmer in one of the world's most remote places.
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Speaker 2: Then we have a white Tail Rot report from Mark Kenyon,
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Speaker 2: followed by some top three lists, and finally we'll interview
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Speaker 2: Michael Burton about using dating apps to find phishing spots.
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Speaker 2: But first we want to remind you that the Blood
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Speaker 2: Trails podcast drops on October thirtieth on its own feed
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Speaker 2: that's simply called Blood Trails. This is a new investigative
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Speaker 2: podcast for Meat Eater, hosted by journalists Jordan Sillers. Each
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Speaker 2: episode digs into true crime stories from the world of
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Speaker 2: hunting and fishing, cases where the woods and the water
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Speaker 2: became the backdrop for violence and mystery from missing hunters
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Speaker 2: deep in public land, to poachers turned killers, and fishing
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Speaker 2: trips gone fatally wrong. Blood Trails uncovers the moments when
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Speaker 2: outdoor life collides with homicide. Each story features original reporting,
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Speaker 2: expert insight from detectives, and first hand accounts from the
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Speaker 2: people who were actually there. The trailer is out right now.
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Speaker 2: You can go watch it on the Meat Eater podcast
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Speaker 2: YouTube channel and again the first episode drops October thirtieth
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Speaker 2: on the Blood Trails podcast feed. Very excited for that show. Also,
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Speaker 2: Randall has a plug for you now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to direct everyone's attention to the Is
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Speaker 3: it on the main channel.
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Speaker 4: It's as live as we are.
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Speaker 3: On the main Meat Eater YouTube channel, there's a new
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Speaker 3: video called the Great Buffalo Bred Experiment. And this is
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Speaker 3: sort of a high concept. It's high concept. Weed was involved, No, no,
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Speaker 3: just just it's elevated content. It's for a sophisticated, discerning viewership. Essentially,
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Speaker 3: when we were researching both the Mountain Men audiobook and
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Speaker 3: the Hide Hunters audiobook now available for purchase shameless plug,
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Speaker 3: we kept running into descriptions, and you run into descriptions
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Speaker 3: of this substance in any sort of writing about the
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Speaker 3: great Planes in the early nineteenth century a substance called
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Speaker 3: DePuy or how you spell that dee p u I
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Speaker 3: l l e s, And you get these very vivid
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Speaker 3: descriptions of it, and essentially it's the cap of fat
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Speaker 3: from a buffalo shoulder, and they prepare it by frying
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Speaker 3: it and then smoking it for a day, and they
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Speaker 3: repeatedly say that it's a substitute for bread. So you're
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Speaker 3: eating some meat, you eat this as your bread. And
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Speaker 3: in fact, we have one account where he says it's
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Speaker 3: superior to any bread that's ever been made. So Steve
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Speaker 3: and I made this and subjected some folks in the
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Speaker 3: office to a blind taste test to decide once and
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Speaker 3: for all whether this is in fact superior to any
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Speaker 3: bread that's ever been made. So this video on the
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Speaker 3: YouTube channel now is called the Great Buffalo Bread Experiment.
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Speaker 3: And we found we got a buffalo from our friends
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Speaker 3: at Northbridge or Bison, and we cut off the requisite
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Speaker 3: chunks of fat and we followed the instructions to a
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Speaker 3: tee and you can see the results of that on
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Speaker 3: YouTube now.
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Speaker 5: So back in the day, they smoked these caps of
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Speaker 5: fat in a Dynama teepee.
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Speaker 3: They used a a tpe an actual buffalo of skin
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Speaker 3: buffalo hide t pee.
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Speaker 5: I wondering if if there is a subtle hint to
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Speaker 5: smoke nylon or not.
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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think that was the problem.
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Speaker 2: Not to give too elevated content, only cool interesting piece.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean experimental, experimental culinary scene.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Caleb's asking Randall, if you have any wine and
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Speaker 4: cheese recommendation to pair with this elevated content.
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Speaker 3: Maybe some depuya, I would say a tall boy of
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Speaker 3: Mickey's Mickey's Malt liquor, Yes, and some string cheese. That's
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Speaker 3: what I got. Cheese cheese whiz, Actually, cheers whiz. I
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Speaker 3: used quite a bit of that. Try to get my
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Speaker 3: dogs to take a shower with me the other day.
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Speaker 2: We don't need any more.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: On that, well, we'll.
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Speaker 3: Get some of that in our next segment here. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So that video is live on YouTube right now and
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Speaker 2: Blood Trails will be available next week. Alright, fellas we've
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Speaker 2: been in the field lately, let's do some hunt recaps.
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Speaker 2: This would make Yanni real happy. Random what you've been
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Speaker 2: up to.
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Speaker 3: Well, last weekend, my wife Sydney and I went antelope
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Speaker 3: hunting out in eastern Montana. We did not have any
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Speaker 3: antelope tags last year, so we were excited to get
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Speaker 3: out there because it is our favorite wild game to eat,
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Speaker 3: and so I feel like that's a hot take. I
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Speaker 3: feel like the more people you talk to, I feel
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Speaker 3: like it's more common than you'd think. Okay, just a
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Speaker 3: just an antelope steak, super rare. I love it. But
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Speaker 3: Sydney shot this buck. We had a slow day the
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Speaker 3: first day it was super cold and windy and didn't
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Speaker 3: see a lot of antelope on public land, and then
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Speaker 3: we pulled into a spot the next morning. Sydney glassed
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Speaker 3: this buck from the truck and I ranged it with
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Speaker 3: my range finder and with the sig buyos and you
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Speaker 3: can drop a pin on where you range. So we
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Speaker 3: dropped a pin on him about thirteen hundred yards out
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Speaker 3: and then hopped into this draw and kind of circled
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Speaker 3: all the way around and got up on the little
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Speaker 3: knob that he was on and couldn't see him, and
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Speaker 3: they had all bedded down, So we crawled around on
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Speaker 3: our hands and knees for probably half an hour within
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Speaker 3: two hundred yards of these antelopes. Finally she spotted him,
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Speaker 3: just his horns behind the sage brush, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: I had to tell I had to ask her, like
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Speaker 3: pointed out to me, pointed out to me because I
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Speaker 3: couldn't see him, and then eventually I got him. We
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Speaker 3: crawled around until we sort of had an angle and
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Speaker 3: then waited for them to stand up, and she ended
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Speaker 3: up shooting that antelope at like one hundred yards, which
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Speaker 3: is super cool. And that was she basically did everything
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Speaker 3: on that hunt, like she spotted the animal, she once
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Speaker 3: we got in on it, she found him again, she
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Speaker 3: turned him up, and then I was like, do you
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Speaker 3: want me to try to get him to stand up?
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Speaker 3: You know, I'll clap my hands or something, and she's like, no,
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Speaker 3: we'll wait, We'll wait, and then she stood up. So
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Speaker 3: other than sort of the navigating on ONEX, she did everything,
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Speaker 3: which is really cool. Hell yeah, and yeah, that's the dogs.
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Speaker 3: The dogs were waiting in the truck and onto the
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Speaker 3: next photo, and then I shot this one. Later that day,
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Speaker 3: we spotted a buck real far away that looked like
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Speaker 3: a dandy and then dropped into a little draw and
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Speaker 3: we ended up having to cross this muddy creek a
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Speaker 3: couple times, and eventually I said we're a mile and
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Speaker 3: a half away. Let's just get up on the flat
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Speaker 3: and book it and then drop back into the draw
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Speaker 3: so we don't have to cross this creek again. And
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Speaker 3: as we got up onto the flat, there's kind of
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Speaker 3: a little roll in this guy and some doze were
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Speaker 3: bedded there, and I figured a bird in hand is
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Speaker 3: whatever the saying is, So I shut this one. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: And we were close enough to the car that next
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Speaker 3: slide phill Sidney went and got the dogs while I
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Speaker 3: began the processing work. And you can see there on Rosie,
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Speaker 3: my most surprized hound, she's got a little bit of
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Speaker 3: antelope blood on her back because she likes to roll
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Speaker 3: in things. And so that gets me to the cheese
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Speaker 3: whiz that I was describing earlier in this episode. The
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Speaker 3: dogs all needed a pretty serious bath afterwards.
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Speaker 2: And uh and so you're about to see a picture
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Speaker 2: of you in the shower.
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Speaker 3: Nope, nope, nope, but you will see on the next
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Speaker 3: slide we this is That was our dinner when we
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Speaker 3: got back is beautiful. Two backstraps from one of the
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Speaker 3: antelope cal and Sam came over and we uh just
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Speaker 3: pan fried him and we made a sauce called Cumberland sauce,
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Speaker 3: which is like a classic mill It's like a classic
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Speaker 3: steak sauce. It's sort of a cranberry it's almost like
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Speaker 3: cranberry sauce, but it's like a drizzle glaze type thing.
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Speaker 3: And it was quite tasty. So yeah, it was a
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Speaker 3: great start to the fall season and getting ready for.
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Speaker 2: Some more here a good couple days of analopin. Fantastic
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Speaker 2: classic goat en counters.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Oh, and then the highlight probably was we
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Speaker 3: were driving down a two track and bumped a little
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Speaker 3: covey of sage grouse. So they're probably about ten birds
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Speaker 3: that looked like, you know, kickballs with feathers.
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Speaker 2: And you still got that trivia question wrong yesterday? Or
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Speaker 2: were they not greater sage grouse?
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Speaker 3: No, they were. They were greater sage grouse.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen one in person.
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Speaker 3: Oh they're unbelievad They're so big. Yeah, and they just
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Speaker 3: bumped up and went about forty yards away and put
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Speaker 3: down again. And then we sat there and took a
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Speaker 3: bunch of video of them and super cool. I've seen
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Speaker 3: a couple of them just you know, deer and antelope punting.
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Speaker 2: I don't think we got a conclusion to the cheese
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Speaker 2: whiz thing.
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Speaker 3: Well, it worked at first, but then they all got
9:38
Speaker 3: they all got really mad when the water turned on.
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Speaker 2: What happened? You put cheese whiz like on the shower
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Speaker 2: door or what?
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Speaker 3: Yes, so we have like a walk in shower with
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Speaker 3: the glass door, and so I put a bunch of
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Speaker 3: cheese whiz on the floor and then pushed them towards it,
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Speaker 3: and they all attacked the cheese whiz and then I
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Speaker 3: turned the water. I shut the door, turned the water on.
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Speaker 3: But then cheese was isn't really soluble in water again,
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Speaker 3: so there was actually quite a bit of grout cleaning
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Speaker 3: that was required afterwards. I don't recommend it. I'm working
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Speaker 3: on a new solution, but we don't bave our dogs regularly,
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Speaker 3: so I don't have that PROGRAMM. Try whipped cream. That's
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Speaker 3: a new one. It's easy to go one. Yeah right,
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Speaker 3: that's what.
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Speaker 2: I got in a up country That up to you, man.
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Speaker 5: I've had a very exciting fall, but exciting yet unsuccessful
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Speaker 5: so far. Been chasing Elk all September and a little
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Speaker 5: bit into October. A lot of close encounters, trying to
10:32
Speaker 5: get a few buddies into Elk but haven't flung an
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Speaker 5: arrow and archery seasons coming gone rifle O Big Game
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Speaker 5: General Rifle opens this Saturday, so I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: Days from now, give her hell with a rifle. You're
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Speaker 2: gonna be out there.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, yep, got a few trips planned. Hopefully
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Speaker 5: I don't need to even go back out later in
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Speaker 5: the season. I just have a deer and an elk
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Speaker 5: tag in my pocket. So I haven't drawn anne open
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Speaker 5: a few years.
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Speaker 3: That's because you're not putting in for the right units.
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Speaker 2: What are the odds to kill kill an elk this weekend?
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Speaker 3: This week? This weekend?
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Speaker 5: Pretty low because everybody, but it's more like four percent. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: but as the season drags on and it gets colder
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Speaker 5: and snow ear ask me in a couple of weeks, have.
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Speaker 2: You ever killed one on a rifle opener? Yes?
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Speaker 5: Okay, fact my very first elk when I was thirty. Nice,
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Speaker 5: just in the right place at the right time, caught him.
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Speaker 5: He was running away from other people.
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Speaker 3: That is the advantage of opener. They're where they were
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Speaker 3: for opening morning, they're where they were the past week,
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Speaker 3: and then they're just all over the place running somewhere else.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Last week I was in Idaho for a bit. I
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Speaker 2: had a deer tag there for their opener. I had
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Speaker 2: red reports going into the hunt that the unit I
11:44
Speaker 2: was going to be in had EHD reports. I'd seen
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Speaker 2: things on Facebook about that part of the state having EHD.
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Speaker 2: But it's like at that point you have the tag,
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Speaker 2: there's no like refunding the tag and IO like some
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Speaker 2: other states have when when this sort of thing happened.
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Speaker 2: So I was committed him going, and I went, and
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Speaker 2: it was worse than I could have possibly imagined. Last
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Speaker 2: year I had the same hunt and I saw I
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Speaker 2: think more deer on that hunt than my other, like
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Speaker 2: four hunts combined. It was just like that plentiful with
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Speaker 2: white tails. This year on opening day I saw zero
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Speaker 2: live deer and found five dead ones. We've got a
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Speaker 2: picture of one of them here, including two bucks that
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Speaker 2: would have been no doubt shooters. This buck, he almost
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Speaker 2: made it. He got out of velvet, meaning he survived
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Speaker 2: into September. The season opened in October there, but he
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Speaker 2: died of EHD at some point in that month prior
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Speaker 2: and then I found it. You know, a couple dos.
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Speaker 2: This is like a textbook scene of EHD when a
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Speaker 2: deer has EHD, they only make it. I think it's
12:47
Speaker 2: like one or two days. In those final hours, they
12:50
Speaker 2: have a very high fever where they are just boiling
12:53
Speaker 2: from the inside, so they seek out water, you know,
12:56
Speaker 2: hoping to feel better. And so you'll find deer that
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Speaker 2: just die near water or in water. He were two
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Speaker 2: does about ten yards apart that had died in a pond,
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Speaker 2: and then I found another buck that would have been
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Speaker 2: a shooter as well. This guy did not make it
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Speaker 2: out of velvet though, so he died probably sometime in August.
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Speaker 2: Because his antlers were fully formed. He didn't have like
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Speaker 2: the hot dog points that those deer will have in
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Speaker 2: you know, June and July, so he seemed to almost
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Speaker 2: make it as well. But it was just a real bummer.
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Speaker 2: I did have a consolation prize turkey you can kill
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Speaker 2: a hen there in the fall, and I have zero
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Speaker 2: turkey in the freezer and was not going to pass
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Speaker 2: up a hen, so I shotgun to that thing not
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Speaker 2: too far from camp. And then when I got home,
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Speaker 2: I also had an analope tag in eastern Montana. Drove
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Speaker 2: out there and killed a buck and so he is
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Speaker 2: in my freezer as well. That is just what I've
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Speaker 2: been referring to as a copy and paste antelope. That's
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Speaker 2: the kind of buck that's just like copy and pasted
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Speaker 2: all over the prairie in analope country. He looks like
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Speaker 2: every antalope.
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Speaker 3: I called that an antelope that looks like an analope.
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Speaker 2: Yes, which is I think the three of us could
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Speaker 2: bring all of our analyopes skulls in here and mix
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Speaker 2: them up and try to, you know, find out who's
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Speaker 2: is who's and we'd we'd be as successful as we
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Speaker 2: would be blind, is my guess, because that's just like,
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Speaker 2: that's what an antelope buck looks like.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Still fun to hunt though, and especially coming out of
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Speaker 2: my Idaho hunt where I saw zero deer on opening day.
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Speaker 2: When you have an analope tag, you're like just guaranteed
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Speaker 2: to see analog It's so refreshing. They're like, you know
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Speaker 2: you're going to see your target.
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Speaker 3: It's a fun hunt, and you can hunt all day.
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Speaker 3: You're not like waking up at the crack of dawn.
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Speaker 3: So what a bummer in Idaho?
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Speaker 6: Though, I hear.
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Speaker 2: There's a bummer. So there's like a few silver linings
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Speaker 2: they quickly recover. It's not like CWD, where once you
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Speaker 2: have it, you just have it. In most cases, those
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Speaker 2: herds can can bounce back in two to three years.
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Speaker 2: They also develop an immunity to EHD that lasts what
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Speaker 2: I've read is from like seven to ten years, so
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Speaker 2: that that unit will be okay, the state will be fine.
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Speaker 2: But I feel bad for obviously the deer, the hunters
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Speaker 2: who are local to there, and then the biologists who
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Speaker 2: have to deal with the deer and the hunters who
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Speaker 2: are upset about the whole situation. It is just like
15:10
Speaker 2: no win.
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Speaker 5: So I believe there's a similar situation up in north
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Speaker 5: central Montana happening.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ohio has got EHD really bad right now. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We had an Ohio or an EHD report from Kip
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Speaker 2: Adams a few weeks ago, and I think Ohio was
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Speaker 2: the low light of the whole report because they are
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Speaker 2: dominating the rest of the country right now as far
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Speaker 2: as EHD numbers go. All right, let's get on the
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Speaker 2: show and do our first interview.
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Speaker 3: Joining us on the line first is pearl farmer Josh Humbert.
15:36
Speaker 3: He is the owner of Kamoka Pearl, which is located
15:38
Speaker 3: in one of the most remote places on Earth, Josh,
15:41
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thank you for having me. It's exciting to
15:46
Speaker 6: be here.
15:47
Speaker 3: And we appreciate you waking up so early. Can you
15:50
Speaker 3: tell us where you're speaking to us from today?
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Speaker 7: So I'm actually speaking to you from my deck in
15:59
Speaker 7: in Tihiti. We have a home in uh in the
16:02
Speaker 7: town of Chopo where the Olympics were. I was supposed
16:05
Speaker 7: to be at the farm for this, but I've come
16:08
Speaker 7: to Tahiti a little bit early, have some tete to do.
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Speaker 6: Uh and uh. I got bit by a shark last year.
16:17
Speaker 7: I'm still doing some of the some of the rehab stuff,
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Speaker 7: but I also had had pearls to bring and the
16:24
Speaker 7: pearls I'm working on right now. So yeah, I just
16:28
Speaker 7: kind of got got my hands full. And uh and
16:30
Speaker 7: uh and so here I am. I'm not I'm not
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Speaker 7: on on the the aphol which is called a Hey
16:37
Speaker 7: and it's it's in the very northern, uh, the very
16:41
Speaker 7: northwest corner of the swims.
16:44
Speaker 6: So uh. Yeah, it's kind of the last the last
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Speaker 6: apol going north.
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Speaker 3: Gotcha, And so what what is your family's connection to
16:54
Speaker 3: this place? How did you end up in that part
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Speaker 3: of the world.
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Speaker 7: So we arrived down sailboat when I was two years old.
17:03
Speaker 7: My parents built the sailboat in uh in the the
17:07
Speaker 7: backyard of the house they were renting in Torrens, California.
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Speaker 7: My dad's French, my mom's American. And so they built
17:15
Speaker 7: this this boat out of basically like whatever they could find,
17:20
Speaker 7: you know that it was basically made of chicken wire
17:23
Speaker 7: and rebar and u and concrete and uh. They built
17:28
Speaker 7: this boat on complete shustring budget. They didn't have any
17:32
Speaker 7: money at all. My dad actually pulled the coordinates from
17:36
Speaker 7: a wooden boat magazine.
17:37
Speaker 6: I don't know if anyone's familiar, but.
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Speaker 7: It was just just numbers, you know, just numbers on
17:43
Speaker 7: a page and and uh and he, like whatever, figured
17:47
Speaker 7: it all out and and together they built this boat
17:49
Speaker 7: and and sailed away with with myself and my brother
17:53
Speaker 7: who's three years older than me, and and two cats,
17:56
Speaker 7: two dogs, and and three hundred dollars basically wow, yeah
18:01
Speaker 7: and uh. And so we sailed down to uh to Baja,
18:04
Speaker 7: lived there for almost two years, and then from there
18:09
Speaker 7: went down to French Polynesia with the intent of going
18:11
Speaker 7: to Tihiti, but we stopped in on this this asoholist
18:15
Speaker 7: on the way, and the locals took us in and
18:18
Speaker 7: and really treat us like like family. And so we
18:23
Speaker 7: kind of put roots down there, and my dad got
18:26
Speaker 7: to the sailboat and turned it into a saline freezer
18:30
Speaker 7: basically so that so that he could take the fish
18:33
Speaker 7: that the locals would catch and uh.
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Speaker 4: Mm, should pop back in.
18:40
Speaker 3: I say, christ for it, gotcha?
18:45
Speaker 6: Basically, sorry, go ahead.
18:46
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, for listeners who might not be
18:50
Speaker 3: familiar with French Polynesia, can you talk about just how
18:53
Speaker 3: remote we were, you know, like placed this on a
18:56
Speaker 3: globe relatively speaking, and how remote you're Your atoll is from, say, Tahiti, So.
19:05
Speaker 6: We're about two hundred miles north of Tahiti.
19:08
Speaker 7: And uh, yeah, there we are. Cool, Okay, cool, you
19:12
Speaker 7: pulled one of our videos.
19:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's very remote.
19:17
Speaker 7: We're thirty five hundred miles from uh from the west coast.
19:21
Speaker 6: Of the US.
19:24
Speaker 7: Actually sailed there last year with my dad and uh yeah,
19:28
Speaker 7: it took it took a month to get there. So yeah,
19:32
Speaker 7: it's it's it's it's quite a ways out there now.
19:36
Speaker 3: So you're you're in the pearl farming business. Can you
19:38
Speaker 3: walk us through the basics of pearl farming. What does
19:42
Speaker 3: the process actually look like?
19:45
Speaker 7: So basically, you you have to collect your your oyster
19:48
Speaker 7: when it's when it's still like at its planktonic stage.
19:53
Speaker 6: Basically, you set out what we call.
19:55
Speaker 7: Collectors at a certain time of year and they swim
19:57
Speaker 7: and you know they start life as as swim in
19:59
Speaker 7: large a and uh they they they seek out a
20:03
Speaker 7: good place to to ah to to colonize and they
20:09
Speaker 7: grow up there.
20:10
Speaker 6: So once we once we do that.
20:12
Speaker 7: The the oysters grow up basically and to a certain
20:16
Speaker 7: size that it takes about almost three years to get
20:20
Speaker 7: them to to uh, to the size of which you
20:22
Speaker 7: can do what you see here in the video, which
20:24
Speaker 7: is the the the implanting and the harvesting the first
20:28
Speaker 7: peril takes about twelve months.
20:30
Speaker 6: To the harvest. Wow, that's what you see there. So
20:34
Speaker 6: it's it's it's quite a it's quite a process.
20:37
Speaker 7: It's it's a kind of a labor of love. It's
20:40
Speaker 7: it's a lot of work. It's it's a lot of physical,
20:42
Speaker 7: physical labor.
20:44
Speaker 6: But yeah, we we love it.
20:46
Speaker 3: So who are your primary buyers? Are you selling to
20:49
Speaker 3: to consumers directly or jewelers or collectors or what's the
20:54
Speaker 3: structure of the the market there.
20:59
Speaker 6: Well to people all around the world.
21:02
Speaker 7: I mean, we we probably saw more in the in
21:04
Speaker 7: the US than than anywhere m M, because that's kind
21:07
Speaker 7: of what our marketing targets. But we literally sell pearls
21:11
Speaker 7: to any country that's safe to.
21:14
Speaker 6: Send stuff too.
21:17
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the primary market would be the US,
21:20
Speaker 7: but that's probably because you know, we we focus a
21:23
Speaker 7: lot of our our ad spend on on on on
21:26
Speaker 7: the US market.
21:27
Speaker 6: Uh. You know, our our.
21:30
Speaker 7: Videos are all all in English, and and that's definitely
21:34
Speaker 7: like the market that that we focus on most.
21:37
Speaker 3: Gotcha, I imagine that there's a sort of a romantic
21:41
Speaker 3: notion of pearl farming in a tropical paradise here. But
21:45
Speaker 3: what are the day to day challenges of your operation?
21:51
Speaker 7: The probably our biggest challenge would be just keeping our
21:54
Speaker 7: oysters safe. We have to keep them safe from from fish.
21:58
Speaker 7: You can see in our in our videos, you'll see
22:00
Speaker 7: the oysters hanging in these long baskets and basically the
22:05
Speaker 7: trigger fish. They're kind of our our enemy number one.
22:08
Speaker 7: They're they're they're really smart and I don't know if
22:11
Speaker 7: you guys know what trigger fish are, but it's a
22:14
Speaker 7: fish about about ten pounds or so, and it has
22:17
Speaker 7: a job that's so powerful. I think the bite force
22:22
Speaker 7: is like three hundred PSI. So they can, Yeah, they
22:25
Speaker 7: can just rip through just by anything. And they can
22:29
Speaker 7: break an oyster, which is pretty impressive because you can
22:31
Speaker 7: take a hammer and it's hard to break an oyster.
22:33
Speaker 7: Like they have so much integrity, like this way, Sorry,
22:42
Speaker 7: we got some.
22:44
Speaker 2: I thought I saw a wrist rocket. What are we
22:47
Speaker 2: doing there?
22:47
Speaker 6: What is happening?
22:50
Speaker 7: There's there's roosters around, and I keep I keep some
22:56
Speaker 7: some some like shit pearls on hand.
23:01
Speaker 3: You might be the only man in the world that's
23:03
Speaker 3: loading his wrist rocket with pearls. This is fantastic.
23:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those listening, Josh just loaded a sling shot
23:11
Speaker 2: and shot it during the interview at a rooster who
23:14
Speaker 2: was encroaching on his audio.
23:16
Speaker 3: Good on you, Josh, so yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
23:23
Speaker 6: No.
23:23
Speaker 7: I was just saying that there's too many of them
23:24
Speaker 7: around and we need to do a little rooster call
23:27
Speaker 7: and have some cocal event.
23:30
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys are oh, yeah, except not.
23:33
Speaker 3: But yeah, so so as far as like protecting your oysters,
23:38
Speaker 3: are you guys doing a lot of diving and and
23:41
Speaker 3: and fishing or spearfishing. I mean, what's the what's that
23:44
Speaker 3: look like?
23:46
Speaker 6: So we we do do a lot of spearfishing.
23:49
Speaker 7: That's basically how we feed ourselves. We you know, it's
23:54
Speaker 7: it's remote and and we do get stuff on a
23:57
Speaker 7: like a weekly or or every other week supply ship.
24:02
Speaker 7: But we definitely we like to eat fish. You know,
24:04
Speaker 7: we're we're a meat eaters, more fish than uh than
24:08
Speaker 7: than land meat. But but yeah, we fished literally every
24:12
Speaker 7: every single day. And yeah, we we we we uh
24:16
Speaker 7: we usually go spearfishing. That that's kind of our our
24:18
Speaker 7: go to and it's generally pretty safe. Like I said,
24:22
Speaker 7: I got I got a bit last November, which I
24:26
Speaker 7: don't recommend.
24:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Was that Was
24:30
Speaker 3: that a spear fishing encounter?
24:32
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I was.
24:34
Speaker 7: Uh, I was spearfishing the friends and uh the shark
24:37
Speaker 7: came straight up on me and grabbed my my uh
24:40
Speaker 7: my my calf and kind of like pulled me down
24:45
Speaker 7: and I got uh. So we we we put which
24:49
Speaker 7: we put two turn kits on it, but we put
24:51
Speaker 7: the turn kets right on the peronnial nerve, which I
24:54
Speaker 7: don't know if your audience knows not, but that that's
24:57
Speaker 7: the big nerve that services your whole or leg and
25:01
Speaker 7: it's one of the few places where you're not supposed
25:03
Speaker 7: to put a tournique and uh and so my my
25:07
Speaker 7: whole lower leg was offline for for about three months.
25:11
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I.
25:13
Speaker 7: Wasn't sure if if I'd walk again. It was it
25:16
Speaker 7: was all pretty uh, pretty scary. But I'm walking now
25:18
Speaker 7: and I'm pretty good for the most part. I'm back
25:21
Speaker 7: at about ninety percent. But but yeah, I sorted. I
25:25
Speaker 7: did not mean to get derailed. We're talking about pearls. Yeah,
25:30
Speaker 7: so it's just I mean, that's a spear vision. It's
25:33
Speaker 7: part of our life and uh and it's it's what
25:35
Speaker 7: we do. It's it's how we we we feed ourselves.
25:37
Speaker 7: But as far as the oysters, they they they need
25:41
Speaker 7: to be kept safe from the from the trigger fish,
25:43
Speaker 7: from the the the the sea turtles and and the
25:48
Speaker 7: big big leopard rays. And we do that by keeping
25:51
Speaker 7: them in in uh in baskets. And we we've actually
25:55
Speaker 7: had some really interesting developments with that h recently. So
26:00
Speaker 7: for for years now, we we take our our fish
26:02
Speaker 7: to to shallow water where where there's a sorry, we
26:05
Speaker 7: take our oysters to shallow water where there's lots of fish,
26:08
Speaker 7: and and the fish come around and clean clean all
26:13
Speaker 7: the all the stuff that grows on them, And uh,
26:16
Speaker 7: that's really cool because that's basically like it's it's a
26:19
Speaker 7: it's a way to get the oysters clean and it's
26:21
Speaker 7: also a way to support our local ecology. We've been
26:26
Speaker 7: doing that for for thirty years now, and there's more fish,
26:29
Speaker 7: more more life in our area than than anywhere in
26:32
Speaker 7: the whole the whole appol and so that that's been
26:35
Speaker 7: a real source of pride for us, just to see that,
26:39
Speaker 7: like our work can actually be regenerative to the the
26:43
Speaker 7: lagoon and ecology. But recently we've kind of taken that
26:47
Speaker 7: to another level where we we keep our oysters in
26:52
Speaker 7: zones that are relatively shallow and the.
26:58
Speaker 6: We what we what everyone does, they close the basket
27:02
Speaker 6: so that so the figger fists can't get in and
27:05
Speaker 6: pull the oysters out. But what what we did.
27:08
Speaker 7: We kind of kind of took a risk on it
27:11
Speaker 7: about a year ago and we started opening the baskets
27:14
Speaker 7: and just like attaching the first the first oyster was
27:17
Speaker 7: a little bit deeper down in the basket and the
27:21
Speaker 7: thinking is that if there was a little bit deeper down,
27:22
Speaker 7: theer fists can be able to pull them out and
27:24
Speaker 7: and and it worked. And so it's basically like cut
27:29
Speaker 7: our our labor by about.
27:31
Speaker 6: Fifty percent, which is a lot, you know significant.
27:36
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of your audience are farmers,
27:39
Speaker 7: and I'm sure they could they could really appreciate what
27:42
Speaker 7: that means. And it also increased our our productivity basically
27:48
Speaker 7: the rate at which the oysters grow by about thirty percent,
27:53
Speaker 7: which is massive. And so anyway, yeah, it's it's really exciting.
27:58
Speaker 7: And we basically consider all this stuff open source, like
28:02
Speaker 7: we we want other people to be doing this, like
28:05
Speaker 7: we're you know, we we communicate on it through our
28:08
Speaker 7: channel Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube.
28:13
Speaker 6: And the whole you know.
28:15
Speaker 7: The best thing that we can do is share what
28:17
Speaker 7: we're doing with other people and the hope that that
28:19
Speaker 7: other farmers do it too, because the more the more
28:22
Speaker 7: farmers do this, the more the the doing ecology will prosper. Basically,
28:28
Speaker 7: the the number one fish that that cleans our oysters
28:31
Speaker 7: are parrotfish, and and so by supporting the parrotfish, you're
28:36
Speaker 7: actually supporting, uh, the coral as well.
28:41
Speaker 6: What parentfish do is they they.
28:43
Speaker 7: Go around and they graze on I mean they you know,
28:47
Speaker 7: they eat different things. But one thing that they do
28:50
Speaker 7: is they they graze on on on the the algae
28:54
Speaker 7: that grows on dead coral. So what that does is
28:57
Speaker 7: that it enables the coral to keep growing. If if
29:00
Speaker 7: the coral gets calinized by algae, it can't it can't,
29:03
Speaker 7: it can't grow. So when the pearfish come by and
29:07
Speaker 7: clean it up, then the the coral prosperous. Basically by
29:11
Speaker 7: supporting the Yeah, by supporting the parfish, we're supporting the reef,
29:15
Speaker 7: and the reef supports this whole other you know, there's
29:17
Speaker 7: all these other downstream effects from it.
29:21
Speaker 6: And basically like basically figured this out.
29:25
Speaker 7: Like like I like to think in terms of permaculture,
29:30
Speaker 7: you know that the first ten of permaculture is that
29:34
Speaker 7: before you do anything, you you observe, you know, you watch,
29:37
Speaker 7: and I just I had this moment years ago when
29:42
Speaker 7: we were you know a lot of years ago. I've
29:45
Speaker 7: been doing this for yeah, thirty thirty some years now,
29:49
Speaker 7: but I had this moment where we were we brought
29:51
Speaker 7: a bunch of oysters in, Uh, they were dirty to
29:54
Speaker 7: the farm to the temporary platform that's there, and we're
29:58
Speaker 7: you know, we hung all the way to in the morning,
30:00
Speaker 7: and then throughout the morning we went through them and
30:03
Speaker 7: cleaned them and and uh, you know.
30:05
Speaker 6: It's really it's really labor intensive.
30:07
Speaker 7: You're you're scraping all this stuff off the oyster and
30:10
Speaker 7: you got like like stuff splattering in your face and
30:12
Speaker 7: stuff some of the beaches and things, and it's.
30:15
Speaker 6: Just it's it's not it's not fun work at all.
30:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:18
Speaker 7: And and then at noon, like we you know, we
30:21
Speaker 7: stopped for lunch, and then we went back out and
30:24
Speaker 7: we started working again.
30:25
Speaker 6: And I went to go get.
30:26
Speaker 7: A string and I pulled it out of the water,
30:27
Speaker 7: and I'm like it's clean, you know, like and it
30:30
Speaker 7: was something that that we'd noticed before.
30:32
Speaker 6: But I just had this this epiphany that's like this.
30:35
Speaker 7: Real the classic aha moment where I was like, wait
30:38
Speaker 7: a minute, what are we doing, Like why are we
30:41
Speaker 7: scraping these oysters when the fish are there and they're
30:44
Speaker 7: they're ready and willing to do this work for us.
30:47
Speaker 6: And so from then on we just kind.
30:49
Speaker 7: Of went all in with with the whole concept of
30:52
Speaker 7: fish cleaning, and we built out all these all these
30:55
Speaker 7: structures underwater in shallow zones where there's lots of fish
31:00
Speaker 7: that were like kind of like big like spider webs,
31:02
Speaker 7: and we'd hang all the baskets from from from those
31:06
Speaker 7: platforms and the fish would come around and and uh
31:08
Speaker 7: and and clean them all up, and then we take
31:10
Speaker 7: them back out to the.
31:11
Speaker 6: Line like a couple of days later.
31:13
Speaker 2: Cool stuff.
31:14
Speaker 7: And then so now like we basically like took that
31:17
Speaker 7: idea and then and then went further with it by
31:21
Speaker 7: opening the baskets. And it sounds so stupid, like, oh,
31:24
Speaker 7: just opened the baskets, but you know, like when when
31:26
Speaker 7: you lose so much money from the from the predation
31:31
Speaker 7: of the fish, you get really kind of shy of
31:34
Speaker 7: of doing.
31:35
Speaker 6: Things like that.
31:36
Speaker 7: So sure, that's what we've been doing, and it's been
31:38
Speaker 7: working really well, and I don't know, hopefully I'm not
31:40
Speaker 7: I'm not not talking too much.
31:42
Speaker 3: No, it's great, Josh. You mentioned earlier that you run
31:46
Speaker 3: an Instagram and you do some some communication and outreach.
31:50
Speaker 3: If folks want to learn more about Komocha Pearl and
31:53
Speaker 3: your work, where can they find you?
31:56
Speaker 6: Just Kumoka Pearl.
31:57
Speaker 7: We're on all all socials and yeah, just look us
32:01
Speaker 7: up anywhere. We my son and I monitor all the
32:07
Speaker 7: all the socials. He does most of the posting and
32:10
Speaker 7: I answer the comments and respond to questions and stuff,
32:13
Speaker 7: and so.
32:14
Speaker 6: We're you know, we're there.
32:15
Speaker 7: We're very easy to find and so if people reach
32:18
Speaker 7: out to us, most of the time we'll be able
32:21
Speaker 7: to respond, unless we're in a place where we can't
32:24
Speaker 7: do that, or like sometimes we have stuff that goes
32:26
Speaker 7: viral and we just get inundated.
32:28
Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys know what that's life.
32:30
Speaker 3: Sure well, Josh, thank you for waking up early again
32:34
Speaker 3: I know it's early there and joining us on the
32:36
Speaker 3: show and sharing with folks about your world. We appreciate it.
32:40
Speaker 3: Great to meet you.
32:41
Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh.
32:42
Speaker 6: Awesome. Nice to you guys. Thank you very much.
32:44
Speaker 5: No, no, no, what was that?
32:47
Speaker 2: That's how you say goodbye?
32:48
Speaker 3: And to Heshian?
32:49
Speaker 2: Did you know that? Or do you google it?
32:51
Speaker 5: I had time to google it.
32:54
Speaker 2: It's a great contribution to the show, Corey.
32:56
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
32:56
Speaker 2: I'm glad you thought of doing sharp Corey. I want
33:00
Speaker 2: some of those those pearls around.
33:03
Speaker 3: I just I want to see that. I just want
33:05
Speaker 3: to see that place. Yeah, that sounds wild. It sounds beautiful.
33:11
Speaker 2: All right. Next up, we have a rut report.
33:14
Speaker 3: Hope we should be tail run Kim, It's already here.
33:18
Speaker 2: Kenn's gonna tell you what should do.
33:23
Speaker 3: Text you bye cause your weaping kids.
33:25
Speaker 2: Goodbye. Don't decide to desert you. Here is Mark Kenyon
33:34
Speaker 2: with your white tail update for this weekend. Take it away, Phil.
33:39
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon here with Wired to Hunt, and
33:42
Speaker 8: I'm coming at you with another one of our rut
33:44
Speaker 8: reports here for October twenty third, and I'm reporting from
33:48
Speaker 8: the windy, blustery and uh quickly cooling cornfields of southern Michigan.
33:55
Speaker 8: What I'm experiencing here is something that many hunters across
33:58
Speaker 8: the country are, which is this colt this moving across
34:01
Speaker 8: the country. And that's good news for hunters because deer
34:04
Speaker 8: are definitely on their feet. Getting a lot of reports
34:06
Speaker 8: of even daylight activity from mature bucks right now. So
34:10
Speaker 8: take advantage of this weather system if you can. I've
34:13
Speaker 8: also been getting reports of a couple early doughs.
34:16
Speaker 3: Coming into heat.
34:17
Speaker 8: This is earlier than usual for most parts of the country.
34:20
Speaker 8: I wouldn't expect that to be a trend, but it
34:22
Speaker 8: is something to just keep an eye out. You know,
34:24
Speaker 8: the rut is a bell curve, so there's a few
34:26
Speaker 8: that are going to come into heat early, and then
34:28
Speaker 8: most come in that mid November time period, and then
34:30
Speaker 8: a few off in the back end too, so that's
34:32
Speaker 8: all beginning to rise right now. Scraping activity is peaking
34:37
Speaker 8: right now at this time of the year, so scrape's
34:39
Speaker 8: gonna have more daylight activity than at almost any other
34:42
Speaker 8: time of the year, So keep an eye on scrapes,
34:45
Speaker 8: keep an eye out for that early dough that maybe
34:47
Speaker 8: can get the bucks in your area really feeling ready,
34:49
Speaker 8: and otherwise count on more daylight activity right now from
34:53
Speaker 8: your local deer than maybe you've seen over the last
34:55
Speaker 8: three weeks, but they will likely still be in their
34:58
Speaker 8: home turf sticking relatively close to the patterns you've been
35:02
Speaker 8: observing over the last few weeks. So it's a great
35:05
Speaker 8: time to be in the woods. I wish you luck
35:07
Speaker 8: and I will be back in two weeks for another
35:09
Speaker 8: rut report.
35:10
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good camo pattern for that corn feme.
35:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh maybe that's walnut.
35:16
Speaker 3: Either way, it looks good on your mind, Yeah, disappears.
35:19
Speaker 2: Feeling inspired after Mark's little report there. I love this
35:22
Speaker 2: time of year. Because it's like it is very good
35:25
Speaker 2: hunting right now, but the best is still yet to come. Well,
35:27
Speaker 2: so you've like got you've got weeks of really good
35:30
Speaker 2: movement to look forward to you and it's like just
35:32
Speaker 2: starting at this moment, that's just goosebumps just hearing you
35:35
Speaker 2: say that. Yeah.
35:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:37
Speaker 2: For the best up to date whitetail movement information, go
35:39
Speaker 2: listen to Rot Fresh on the Wired Hunt podcast feed.
35:42
Speaker 2: New episodes drop every week and have rot reports from
35:45
Speaker 2: hunters across the country. Also, Mark is really excited about
35:49
Speaker 2: his newest episode of Wired Hunt. That's episode nine to
35:52
Speaker 2: six three, featuring a deep dive into the lessons of
35:55
Speaker 2: Roger Rothar. Mark calls him the influencer of today's white
36:00
Speaker 2: tail influencers. Again, that's episode nine to sixty three on
36:04
Speaker 2: the Wired hant feed.
36:05
Speaker 5: And let's not forget about white Tail e edu every
36:08
Speaker 5: Wednesday on the meteor Clips channel.
36:10
Speaker 2: Nice Mark and Tony make those.
36:13
Speaker 4: Mark Tony and what's coming on.
36:16
Speaker 2: They're answering all the white tail questions you didn't know
36:19
Speaker 2: you had and the ones you do have. All Right,
36:22
Speaker 2: our next segment is top threes.
36:25
Speaker 9: We're just hitting all the drops back to back, good
36:46
Speaker 9: camera work Phil as well.
36:48
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, we make do with what we
36:50
Speaker 4: have in this room.
36:52
Speaker 2: All right, this week we have all brought our own
36:54
Speaker 2: top three lists. Corey, start us off. What are you
36:57
Speaker 2: ranking today?
36:58
Speaker 4: Okay?
36:59
Speaker 5: I had a lot of help last evening with my
37:01
Speaker 5: beautiful wife Sarah after a couple of glasses of wine.
37:04
Speaker 3: So this one's for you, honey.
37:06
Speaker 5: This is the top three hypocritical complaints hunters with families
37:11
Speaker 5: make in the fall.
37:12
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's very specific.
37:14
Speaker 5: Let's think about those honeydewes or stuff your spouse may
37:17
Speaker 5: ask you to do in the fall. All the while,
37:19
Speaker 5: all you're thinking about is hunting. Sure, so number three
37:23
Speaker 5: fall decorations that might annoy the crap out of some
37:28
Speaker 5: You know, some spouses might go a little over the
37:31
Speaker 5: top with fall decorations, but hunters are awfully hypocritical about it,
37:35
Speaker 5: because boy, they go decorate trees with stands and ladders
37:39
Speaker 5: and trail cameras. Gearing yourself up for your fall hunting season.
37:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the same.
37:45
Speaker 2: I just punt on Halloween and Thanksgiving and then we
37:49
Speaker 2: just go all in on Christmas. Oh that's an easy
37:51
Speaker 2: compromise for us.
37:52
Speaker 3: I just recommend living someplace where no one trick or
37:55
Speaker 3: treats at your house.
37:57
Speaker 2: That's so easy though, Yeah, you just turn on the lights,
38:00
Speaker 2: put a bowl of candy, have three dogs. Oh oh,
38:03
Speaker 2: that's probably why.
38:04
Speaker 3: You've moved on. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Well, Number two consumerism in the fall. So who else
38:10
Speaker 5: rolls their eyes when they hear any excitement about pumpkin spice, lattes,
38:15
Speaker 5: flannel pajamas, scarms, holiday har Hallmark TV shows. Okay, but
38:20
Speaker 5: we as hunters are fed the same outdoor gear commercials,
38:23
Speaker 5: and we all could admit we buy unnecessary gear all
38:26
Speaker 5: the time.
38:27
Speaker 2: We watched silly videos about eating bison bread stuff like that.
38:31
Speaker 3: Just consumed.
38:33
Speaker 5: And number one, which I do have a photo for
38:36
Speaker 5: fall family photos. They might get up in the way.
38:40
Speaker 3: But oh I was wondering how this one fit in
38:42
Speaker 3: US as.
38:42
Speaker 5: Hunters were out there with their gripp and grins with
38:44
Speaker 5: the boys.
38:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like, uh you know, probably eighty percent
38:48
Speaker 2: of my camera roll is just used up between October
38:53
Speaker 2: and December.
38:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a photo of Spencer's awesome bowl elk they
38:57
Speaker 5: shot last year opening Day rifle see and with good
39:01
Speaker 5: buddies of his including myself.
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Speaker 3: In the back.
39:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, what a beautiful fall family portrait that way, it's right.
39:07
Speaker 2: Imagine if it was you and your wife and kids there.
39:09
Speaker 4: Imagine this is if it's for a boy band. Which
39:12
Speaker 4: one of you would be the hot one and which
39:13
Speaker 4: one of you would be the badass?
39:15
Speaker 2: Oh we're all the hot badass.
39:17
Speaker 3: I think the one that's totally washed out by the
39:19
Speaker 3: sun would be the one that got kicked out of
39:21
Speaker 3: the band. It's like a bad airbrush job.
39:24
Speaker 2: That's Ben. Sorry, Ben, I've been booted from the band.
39:27
Speaker 3: Day boy. This was a deep This is a deep
39:30
Speaker 3: sort of top three. Yeah, very sophisticated.
39:32
Speaker 2: I like. I like when we are specific and niche
39:36
Speaker 2: for things.
39:37
Speaker 3: Thanks y'all.
39:38
Speaker 2: Well done, Corey. All right, I am ranking the top
39:41
Speaker 2: three worst state game agency logos. If you listen to
39:45
Speaker 2: this show, you'll know that I did the three best
39:48
Speaker 2: a few months ago. Now I am going to do
39:50
Speaker 2: the three worst. There are eleven states who flat out
39:53
Speaker 2: have not tried with their logo. It'd be one thing
39:56
Speaker 2: if it was bad design, but it's not even that
39:58
Speaker 2: because these logos just simply have no design. It actually
40:02
Speaker 2: made me angry looking at these because the outdoors are
40:04
Speaker 2: so beautiful and esthetic and inspiring and that should be
40:08
Speaker 2: represented in these logos, but it's not. They just simply
40:11
Speaker 2: have no personality at all. So let's see the list here.
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Speaker 2: Number three. We start with number three, Phil.
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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure because it's kind of
40:19
Speaker 4: confusing because we usually when we have an order in
40:21
Speaker 4: the slideshow, you label it one, two, three, But for
40:23
Speaker 4: top threes you want to start with three.
40:25
Speaker 2: Let's start with three.
40:27
Speaker 4: Tell me the state and make sure a guy got
40:28
Speaker 4: the right one.
40:29
Speaker 2: Number three is the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
40:34
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to clarify things. YEA, so angry? Was
40:37
Speaker 4: that rude?
40:37
Speaker 1: Of Nope?
40:38
Speaker 2: Nope, No, Wisconsin's logo is not only really bad, but
40:42
Speaker 2: it's really weird. And it's not weird in a good way.
40:45
Speaker 2: It's got black land with blue water clouds that don't
40:49
Speaker 2: really make sense. Then it's got trees that are identical
40:52
Speaker 2: to your mouse cursor, and within those trees there's a
40:55
Speaker 2: giant red w which is the only thing that's even
40:58
Speaker 2: remotely Wisconsin about this logo. Wisconsin has the sixth most anglers,
41:03
Speaker 2: the fifth most hunters, and no one is more proud
41:06
Speaker 2: of their big giant bucks. But you wouldn't know any
41:08
Speaker 2: of that by looking at this dreadful logo. Uh, they
41:11
Speaker 2: deserve something better than this, which when I looked at this,
41:15
Speaker 2: it looks like a thumbnail for a Super Mario level.
41:18
Speaker 2: To me, that's what I see.
41:20
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not at all reflective of the Midwestern
41:24
Speaker 3: sensibility that I would expect from the Wisconsin DNR.
41:26
Speaker 2: No.
41:27
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I feel like Wisconsin is
41:29
Speaker 3: a state I so associate with some sort of traditional values,
41:34
Speaker 3: you know, just the Aldo Leopold right, like what are
41:37
Speaker 3: we doing here?
41:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? They just they have so much to work with
41:41
Speaker 2: and they have used none of it. And the giant
41:45
Speaker 2: red w that's like even more Mario adjacent. It looks
41:49
Speaker 2: like a Warrio logo. To me, I just don't get
41:52
Speaker 2: what Wisconsin was doing my game boy.
41:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, Mario, thank you all right.
42:00
Speaker 2: Number two is the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks. Uh,
42:05
Speaker 2: this logo looks like the designer waited until ten minutes
42:08
Speaker 2: before the deadline to even start because they couldn't have
42:11
Speaker 2: possibly put in any less effort. It's just text that
42:15
Speaker 2: says Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks in Times New
42:18
Speaker 2: Roman or something that looks like times New Roman. And
42:21
Speaker 2: then they have some stars in their state motto. What's
42:24
Speaker 2: that state motto?
42:25
Speaker 3: Say? Phil Ad per aspera okay to the stars, from
42:29
Speaker 3: the mud to the stars through hardships.
42:31
Speaker 2: Very good, I think it can be.
42:33
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the literal Latin. And it's also the
42:37
Speaker 3: tagline of pall Mall cigarettes.
42:41
Speaker 2: Really you smoke those?
42:42
Speaker 3: I've smoked a couple of pall Mall cigarettes, yes, And
42:45
Speaker 3: I always was tickled when I looked at a pack
42:47
Speaker 3: of pall Mall.
42:48
Speaker 4: Take you to the Star?
42:51
Speaker 2: That is great. Did it have the translation on the
42:56
Speaker 2: pack or did it just have the the Latin?
42:59
Speaker 3: I don't remember, and English reads the same to me.
43:01
Speaker 2: So that is some good barroom wisdom. You can drop it.
43:05
Speaker 3: I can't believe I got to pull that one today.
43:07
Speaker 2: Very nice. Now, Kansas is known for its bison and
43:10
Speaker 2: white tails, its prairies. The world record flathead catfish was
43:14
Speaker 2: caught there, but instead of showing any of that cool stuff,
43:17
Speaker 2: they just have this sterile lay mass logo. Come on, Kansas.
43:21
Speaker 2: Such a disappointment. And number one is the New York
43:26
Speaker 2: Department of Environmental Conservation. New York has a roundel logo
43:31
Speaker 2: which just means that it's a circle, like Target or
43:33
Speaker 2: Pepsi or Starbucks. Usually roundel's have less personality to begin with.
43:39
Speaker 2: But then New York's is just an absolute dud. It's
43:42
Speaker 2: got flat blue water, green mountains, and then a white
43:45
Speaker 2: sky that turns to a blue sky for some reason.
43:48
Speaker 2: If you remove the words New York Department of Environmental
43:50
Speaker 2: Conservation from this logo, you'd have no idea what it
43:52
Speaker 2: is now. I don't even think you would know the
43:54
Speaker 2: orientation of the logo if it's like supposed to be
43:57
Speaker 2: upside down or sideways or what's going on.
43:59
Speaker 4: Like a bouncy ball you get out of a vending machine.
44:01
Speaker 2: There you go. That's just how ambiguous this is. New
44:05
Speaker 2: York has the finger legs, all kinds of game animals,
44:08
Speaker 2: plus they have the availability of all the aquatic creatures whales, sharks,
44:12
Speaker 2: atlantic sturgeon, and they ignore all of that for this
44:15
Speaker 2: sad depiction of nature. Shame on you, New York. You
44:18
Speaker 2: have so much potential for a badass logo, but instead
44:22
Speaker 2: you have the worst one in the country. And then
44:25
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of honorable mentions here, Phil, let's
44:28
Speaker 2: pull those up. We have the Connecticut Department of Energy
44:32
Speaker 2: and Environmental Protection. New logo is awful, and they even
44:35
Speaker 2: did a redesign in twenty twenty two, and that's the
44:37
Speaker 2: best they could come up with. Illinois just zero character.
44:41
Speaker 2: Looks like the logo for a publishing agency or maybe
44:43
Speaker 2: an orange juice brand. I don't know, just really terrible stuff. Indiana,
44:48
Speaker 2: their DNR logo is maybe the worst in the country.
44:51
Speaker 2: They do have a brand specifically for the Fish and
44:54
Speaker 2: Wildlife Management that does have a logo of a fish
44:57
Speaker 2: and a duck, but it still sucks. Iowa no personality.
45:01
Speaker 2: I actually don't hate iowas I kind of like the
45:03
Speaker 2: colors in the font, but it's still a bad, ugly logo.
45:07
Speaker 2: Michigan bad logo. Also a weird choice to include three
45:11
Speaker 2: great lakes in their logo Superior Michigan and hereon, even
45:15
Speaker 2: though the state touches a fourth great lake, Lake Erie.
45:18
Speaker 2: I'd be pissed if I was lake Erie.
45:20
Speaker 3: You know what.
45:21
Speaker 2: I think lake Erie is too good for Michigan. This
45:24
Speaker 2: logo tells me that they don't appreciate it enough. So
45:27
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take lake Erie away from Michigan and give
45:30
Speaker 2: it all to Ohio. They don't deserve it. They deserve
45:33
Speaker 2: better because they can't even get shown in the logo
45:36
Speaker 2: with the other three great lakes that touch the state.
45:39
Speaker 2: Then we have North Carolina and Texas. These logos are similar,
45:43
Speaker 2: it's text only. Honestly, I don't hate them quite as
45:46
Speaker 2: much as the others. They look out doorsy at least.
45:49
Speaker 2: And then we have Minnesota terrible logo created twenty sixteen
45:53
Speaker 2: as part of a statewide program slaman boring. But I
45:56
Speaker 2: want to share this. I went to their Facebook page
45:59
Speaker 2: to see what people were saying when the logo change happened,
46:01
Speaker 2: because these groups always have to change their profile picture,
46:05
Speaker 2: and when their profile picture change happened, there was only
46:09
Speaker 2: one single comment on that photo. Please show it Phil.
46:11
Speaker 2: It was Jeff Dale. He asked three years ago are
46:14
Speaker 2: hot dogs legal to use for ice fishing? And sadly
46:17
Speaker 2: nobody has responded to jet. So if you know the
46:20
Speaker 2: answer for Jeff, please go to the Minnesota Department of
46:23
Speaker 2: Natural Resources facebook page, look at the posts from when
46:26
Speaker 2: they changed their profile picture in twenty twenty one, and
46:29
Speaker 2: let Jeff know if hot dogs are legal or not
46:32
Speaker 2: for ice fishing. Those are the three worst logos, and
46:37
Speaker 2: then eight honorable mentions. And here's here's like my suggestion
46:41
Speaker 2: to these eleven states, hold a contest for a logo redesign.
46:45
Speaker 2: You could be open to the general public. It could
46:47
Speaker 2: be for an arts program at a college, it could
46:49
Speaker 2: be a local school. States do this all the time
46:51
Speaker 2: with flag redesigns. That's how Minnesota and Alaska have wound
46:54
Speaker 2: up with two of the best state flags. You don't
46:56
Speaker 2: have to be like Oklahoma and pay an agency one
46:58
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, which is what they did in twenty
47:01
Speaker 2: twenty two. There are cheap, even free alternatives that could
47:04
Speaker 2: fix this problem.
47:07
Speaker 3: Wow suggestion. Did you ever read the column on page
47:10
Speaker 3: two of ESPN dot com called uni watch.
47:14
Speaker 2: I I read it a little bit. I had less
47:18
Speaker 2: familiarity with that than when it became a Twitter account.
47:21
Speaker 2: Because they have great tweets covering all of the uniforms
47:25
Speaker 2: that happen in pro sports and amateur.
47:27
Speaker 3: This is very reminiscent of uni watch.
47:29
Speaker 2: I like looking at these things.
47:31
Speaker 3: I like powerful emotions about something that I think it's
47:33
Speaker 3: called People don't think.
47:34
Speaker 2: Twice vexology is studying flag design. I really enjoy that
47:39
Speaker 2: as well, and I've always been disappointed that I've lived
47:41
Speaker 2: in states that usually have really crappy flags like Montana's
47:45
Speaker 2: is just the state seal, which unless if you're like
47:49
Speaker 2: sixteen inches away from it, you have no idea what
47:51
Speaker 2: you're looking at. So I love Montana if they would
47:54
Speaker 2: fix that state flag. Yeah, all right, let's do our
47:57
Speaker 2: next top three I think we are going to do
48:00
Speaker 2: who Feiel next?
48:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's my turn, hil yep, yep again.
48:05
Speaker 4: Well not not again, but I mean again, I'm bringing
48:07
Speaker 4: something stupid and weird, but you know it's it's the
48:10
Speaker 4: holiday season, the spooky Halloween season. I'm wearing I'm wearing
48:14
Speaker 4: my jack lantern sweater. Corey got mad at me for
48:18
Speaker 4: wearing it a week early.
48:19
Speaker 2: Not mad.
48:21
Speaker 4: So I decided to make my top three list of
48:24
Speaker 4: horror villain horror movie villains I would want to go
48:27
Speaker 4: hunting with. This is coming from someone who can count
48:30
Speaker 4: the number of animals he's shot on one hand, but
48:33
Speaker 4: I think I can still bring a lot to the table.
48:34
Speaker 2: Gay, yes, thank you.
48:36
Speaker 4: So the first one that we have here is Sam
48:39
Speaker 4: from the from Trick or Treat Familiar Horror Anthology. Oh
48:43
Speaker 4: he's big at spirit Hot Halloween pros of sam or
48:47
Speaker 4: that he's small's small, Oh he's a child, you know,
48:51
Speaker 4: I'd say like like three and a half four feet tall,
48:54
Speaker 4: hard heart for wildlife the spot. He comes with Hunter's
48:56
Speaker 4: orange already and a game bag, so he's prepared, Hans.
49:00
Speaker 4: The scent control might be a little difficult with the weird,
49:02
Speaker 4: fleshy pumpkinhead that's under his sack, which is not pictured here,
49:05
Speaker 4: but it's it. I'm sure it smells terrible. Number two
49:10
Speaker 4: we have Freddy Krueger pros. He brings his own set
49:14
Speaker 4: of knives. Yes, cons he can only kill animals in
49:17
Speaker 4: their dreams. Might be a problem, but it could be
49:19
Speaker 4: an interesting, uh hunting trip, something new and new experience
49:23
Speaker 4: for you. He may not be able to possess a
49:25
Speaker 4: gun because of the whole child predator and serial killing. Yeah,
49:28
Speaker 4: this one comes with an an asterisk though, because cocted
49:32
Speaker 4: that's the thing he was. He was killed by a
49:34
Speaker 4: vigilante mob before he was ever convicted, so there's no
49:38
Speaker 4: legal record of him not being able like being being
49:41
Speaker 4: you know, convicted of a crime.
49:43
Speaker 2: And do both hands have the knives or is it
49:45
Speaker 2: just one hand?
49:48
Speaker 4: Spencer You've put me on the spot here I'm trying
49:49
Speaker 4: to picture it, but I can't.
49:50
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm just like trying to logistically can draw
49:54
Speaker 2: a bow back?
49:54
Speaker 3: I just I just know my friend had a glove
49:57
Speaker 3: that had the knives on it, and he only had one.
50:00
Speaker 3: Wasn't a set? That might have just been because he
50:02
Speaker 3: lost it.
50:03
Speaker 4: No, it's just one hand.
50:05
Speaker 2: Figure it out.
50:06
Speaker 4: Then yep. Okay, number one, that's number.
50:08
Speaker 3: Of time pulling a bow back.
50:11
Speaker 4: Number one, We've got the blair Witch. The blair Witch
50:14
Speaker 4: is not pictured here. That is one of her victims
50:17
Speaker 4: in Time Out pros. She remains completely unseen. She's never
50:21
Speaker 4: been seen. She's very familiar with the Maryland Woods specifically,
50:24
Speaker 4: so this kind of you know, you're limited to a
50:27
Speaker 4: one geographical area, but I think you can make a
50:30
Speaker 4: lot out of it. Another pro leaves crafts hanging from
50:33
Speaker 4: tree so you won't get lost. There's another asterisk here
50:35
Speaker 4: that didn't really help the the kids that were in
50:38
Speaker 4: the film, they got very lost. But I think that's
50:41
Speaker 4: that's because she was being antagonistic towards them. I think
50:43
Speaker 4: if she were aligned, we had similar goals of trying
50:45
Speaker 4: to get a deer. I think it could help. Another
50:48
Speaker 4: pro has her own cabin.
50:50
Speaker 3: Yep, that's true.
50:51
Speaker 4: It's out there in the woods already. Con makes you
50:53
Speaker 4: face the wall while she does all the processing. Another
50:56
Speaker 4: asterisk here, maybe, I mean that's she's kind. She's doing
51:00
Speaker 4: all the work, but you know, you kind of want
51:01
Speaker 4: to help out, like she invited you along. She helped
51:03
Speaker 4: you get the deer?
51:05
Speaker 8: Phil.
51:05
Speaker 2: How old are you when that movie came out?
51:07
Speaker 4: That was ninety nine? I believe so I was eight.
51:09
Speaker 2: Was that impaired on you? Or was it not on you?
51:11
Speaker 4: I didn't see it until college?
51:12
Speaker 2: Now, how about you, Rand? How old were you in
51:15
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine?
51:16
Speaker 3: Ninety nine? I was thirteen years old.
51:18
Speaker 2: Did you watch The Blair Witch Project?
51:22
Speaker 3: Not until later? And it's a movie. It's a movie
51:25
Speaker 3: that I forgot about for decades and then it popped
51:28
Speaker 3: onto my mental bradar again a couple years ago, and
51:33
Speaker 3: and I just thought, what a weird thing that was.
51:36
Speaker 2: But it like kind of crushed it.
51:37
Speaker 3: It was very culturally like people people didn't know if
51:41
Speaker 3: it was real.
51:41
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they marketed that way. They shot up for
51:43
Speaker 4: like twelve thousand bucks and it made tens of millions
51:46
Speaker 4: of the bucks I have. They do have some some
51:48
Speaker 4: honorable mentions. I was going to say, we've got there's obviously,
51:51
Speaker 4: we've got leather face, just sheer enthusiasm from that guy,
51:54
Speaker 4: and he might you know, he's he's got a lot
51:57
Speaker 4: of experienced skinning. Edward Cullen from a horror movie. Not
52:01
Speaker 4: a villain either, but a vampire who is who hunts,
52:05
Speaker 4: who kills deer and sucks deer blood, but doesn't because
52:08
Speaker 4: he's trying. He doesn't want to kill humans.
52:09
Speaker 3: Doesn't the werewolf guy in that one, the you know,
52:12
Speaker 3: the the yeah Jacob, Yeah, doesn't he kill a deer
52:15
Speaker 3: in that Actually.
52:17
Speaker 4: I've only seen the films once, Like I don't recall.
52:20
Speaker 3: To watch them.
52:20
Speaker 2: They move incredibly fast. Oh, they're very blinking.
52:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, their skins kind of sparkly, which might be a problem.
52:26
Speaker 3: Fast like my top three.
52:27
Speaker 4: And then we've got we've got Hannibal Lecter, probably not
52:32
Speaker 4: much of a hunter, but we've seen Anthony hopkins skills
52:35
Speaker 4: in the edge and so if he can, if any
52:36
Speaker 4: of those transfer over to any of his other characters.
52:39
Speaker 4: We've seen how how quickly he can skin out of
52:43
Speaker 4: animals at a bear.
52:45
Speaker 3: He's a great cook too, that's a thing he'll be able.
52:47
Speaker 4: To pair your gay meat with the perfect wine. Anyway,
52:50
Speaker 4: those that's my top three in honorable mentions.
52:52
Speaker 2: Very good, fantastic, he likes that tiger meat. There you go,
52:57
Speaker 2: it's raw. All right, We have our last time. Three
53:00
Speaker 2: is from Randall. Randall, take it away.
53:02
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to do a top three at
53:03
Speaker 3: top threes with my top three ideas for top three.
53:08
Speaker 2: For a peak behind the curtain. Randall was working on
53:10
Speaker 2: this at eleven or excuse me, ten fifty five Callahan code.
53:16
Speaker 3: Yep. I'm going to go with my top three things
53:19
Speaker 3: to eat after I get out of the elk woods. Yeah,
53:23
Speaker 3: the way home. Number three, and it could be higher
53:26
Speaker 3: except for one complication. Number three is chicken wings because
53:31
Speaker 3: you can eat as many as you want and not
53:34
Speaker 3: feel bad about it, and it's just a gluttonous experience.
53:38
Speaker 3: The catch is that you eat them with your hands,
53:41
Speaker 3: so if you've been successful hunting, you know, even even
53:45
Speaker 3: one wash after you cut up an elk, one hand
53:47
Speaker 3: wash isn't sufficient, so you really it's it's only for
53:52
Speaker 3: the sort of consolation post hunt meal. Unsuccessful huh yeah,
53:56
Speaker 3: but just a great just a great food. You can
53:58
Speaker 3: sit there at the bar watch the game you know,
54:00
Speaker 3: and typically the spice encouraged you to hydrate or im vibe.
54:08
Speaker 2: Can I guess one of your next two that you're
54:10
Speaker 2: going to say?
54:11
Speaker 3: Sure?
54:12
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a taco bell like a crunch? Okay,
54:15
Speaker 2: well you didn't have to say, I was right, go ahead.
54:17
Speaker 3: Sorry, I thought you were going to make a funny guess,
54:19
Speaker 3: not like poking holes in my battleship. Number two is
54:23
Speaker 3: a burger and a beer, just at a bar roadside tavern,
54:28
Speaker 3: preferably not a chain, although you can get a nice
54:32
Speaker 3: burger at chilies.
54:34
Speaker 2: You When have you ever walked into a Chili's after
54:36
Speaker 2: a hunt? Never?
54:41
Speaker 3: You're poking holes in all my.
54:44
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, I did we did eat.
54:46
Speaker 3: I did eat at the Buffalo Wild Wings in Great
54:48
Speaker 3: Falls three times in a row during the hunt, three
54:52
Speaker 3: nights in a row. The guy was sweet.
54:53
Speaker 2: Were they like the usual by the time you came in?
54:56
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, the guy the guy was he wasn't from
54:58
Speaker 3: Great Falls, but he used to at a Buffalo Wild Wings,
55:01
Speaker 3: New Jersey, and I was asking what happened to the
55:03
Speaker 3: buffalo chips and cheese, and he was so pissed, But
55:07
Speaker 3: then he sold us on a couple of menu items
55:09
Speaker 3: that we hadn't tried yet.
55:11
Speaker 2: What what what sauces do you get?
55:15
Speaker 3: I typically just go for hot buffalo if I'm in
55:19
Speaker 3: a if I'm in a sort of feeling bad about
55:22
Speaker 3: my self moods, it's typically like a be a honey barbecue.
55:26
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know this could be emotion.
55:28
Speaker 4: De Gordon is asking for your your preferred flat to
55:31
Speaker 4: drummy ratio. And yes they use the term drummy fitty
55:34
Speaker 4: fitty perfect.
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Speaker 2: I would take all drummis all flats.
55:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I like the flats. I like to
55:40
Speaker 3: turn my flat. There's more work. And number one is
55:44
Speaker 3: Taco Bell.
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Speaker 2: Who could have seen that coming?
55:48
Speaker 3: Taco Bell is great because it comes to you quickly. Uh,
55:52
Speaker 3: there's one right by my house on the way back
55:55
Speaker 3: from my elk hunting spots. You can order in volume
55:59
Speaker 3: without feeling guilty or breaking the bank. And typically when
56:03
Speaker 3: I'm out in the woods, I'm sweating a lot. And
56:05
Speaker 3: there's nothing better to put in your body when you're
56:07
Speaker 3: sweating than mountain dew. Mountain dew in the original flavor
56:12
Speaker 3: or Baja blast, is one of nature's finest revitalizing substances.
56:19
Speaker 3: And you know, I've I've developed a pretty serious habit
56:22
Speaker 3: back in my deck staining days. You know, you get
56:25
Speaker 3: a big sixty four ounce from the convenience store, sixty
56:28
Speaker 3: four ounce mountain dew on tap, big gulps. Oh yeah,
56:31
Speaker 3: big gulps. But uh, I don't They don't call them
56:33
Speaker 3: that at Speedway. But yeah, Taco Bell is just you
56:38
Speaker 3: can't go wrong. I typically would order a crunt trap
56:40
Speaker 3: or two, a couple of soft tacos, and then maybe
56:44
Speaker 3: like one of the value burritos.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Randal we talked to. It's not like the show
56:48
Speaker 4: is going long or anything. But Randall, we talked about
56:50
Speaker 4: this briefly in Nashville of mountain dew VARIETYLS.
56:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, could you do a sub.
56:55
Speaker 4: Top three of mountain des I bet.
56:57
Speaker 2: Randall is not a pearist. I would bet he's goes
56:59
Speaker 2: the other the spectrum and he's like making mountain dew suicides.
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Speaker 3: No, no, I am, I am a purist. Oh wow,
57:06
Speaker 3: I think the original, the original, the original mixture is
57:11
Speaker 3: the only mountain dew one should drink unless you're at
57:13
Speaker 3: a Taco Bell to get Baja blast. And really the
57:17
Speaker 3: only one that I can speak to is Code Red. Yeah,
57:20
Speaker 3: but Phil is actually quite a connoisseur.
57:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, back back in high school, I drank. I drank
57:27
Speaker 4: too much Mountain de Do. I've had to quit soda
57:29
Speaker 4: cold turkey because it was such a problem.
57:30
Speaker 2: When did that happen?
57:32
Speaker 3: Uh?
57:32
Speaker 4: In college? Yeah, I would say, uh, baja blast number one,
57:39
Speaker 4: original number two, number three Mountain Dew game fuel, which
57:44
Speaker 4: was the license tie into Halo three. When that came
57:46
Speaker 4: back back in like two thousand and nine or something,
57:48
Speaker 4: whenever Halo freaking out two and seven, they stopped making it.
57:52
Speaker 4: They tried to turn it into an energy drink. It
57:53
Speaker 4: tasted like ass, and then they remade it with the
57:56
Speaker 4: original formula. It is just a normal soda a few
57:58
Speaker 4: years ago, but just as kind of like a limited
58:00
Speaker 4: release thing. And I bought. I bought a lot, and
58:02
Speaker 4: I relapsed for a week.
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Speaker 2: Oh but now, when did that happen?
58:06
Speaker 4: A year or two ago? Okay, but it's like a
58:08
Speaker 4: cherry citrus flavor. Very good.
58:09
Speaker 3: I saw that swamp donkey. You wanted to know Top
58:12
Speaker 3: three embarrassing hunting mistakes, and I will point out that
58:17
Speaker 3: one of my other top threes was most embarrassing moments
58:21
Speaker 3: in my fishing guide career. So we'll save that one
58:24
Speaker 3: other day.
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Speaker 2: My correct guess of your taco bell order was based
58:29
Speaker 2: on Randall and I had to host a company event
58:31
Speaker 2: a few years ago where we had to make a
58:33
Speaker 2: game for folks attending, and it was all guessing based
58:36
Speaker 2: You look at this elkt shed and you guess it's score.
58:39
Speaker 2: You'd lift this cooler and guess its weight. One of
58:41
Speaker 2: them was we had you guess the calories of these
58:44
Speaker 2: three things. One of them was like two s'mores. One
58:47
Speaker 2: of the things you had to guess the calaries for
58:51
Speaker 2: was Randall's post hunt meal. And I told Randall, I said,
58:54
Speaker 2: rand to really use your imagination here. What would you
58:57
Speaker 2: have after a hunt? And he selected too two tall
59:00
Speaker 2: Boy Coors banquets and I think a grunch wrap supreme
59:05
Speaker 2: with a couple packets of hot sauce. Yeah, that was Randall.
59:08
Speaker 3: Guilty is charged, guiltiest charged. But I will point out
59:12
Speaker 3: that there were backup crunch trap supremes in the fridge
59:16
Speaker 3: and I expensed them all and I took them all home.
59:18
Speaker 4: We've got people in the live chat sharing Mary talk
59:20
Speaker 4: about orders with us.
59:21
Speaker 2: It's the best.
59:21
Speaker 4: This is the best time I've ever had running this show.
59:25
Speaker 3: Good because we're running late.
59:29
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to wrap it up now
59:31
Speaker 2: with our final interview of the day. Joining us on
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Speaker 2: the line next is Michael Burton. Michael has developed the
59:38
Speaker 2: most unique way in the country of finding new fishing spots. Michael,
59:41
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 4: Hello.
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Speaker 2: Michael has gained hundreds of thousands of social media followers
59:49
Speaker 2: for his approach to getting people to tell him about
59:52
Speaker 2: their secret honey holes. Michael explain to folks what you do?
59:57
Speaker 1: So I make I make videos primarily on TikTok. Now
1:00:01
Speaker 1: I used to make them on Instagram, and by far
1:00:03
Speaker 1: my most successful series is catfishing people stealing their fishing
1:00:09
Speaker 1: spots and then ranking their fishing spots to see how
1:00:12
Speaker 1: well it does compare to the other spots I've stolen
1:00:14
Speaker 1: from people.
1:00:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great content. It is what got you on
1:00:18
Speaker 2: my radar. Why we're talking to you today. So the
1:00:21
Speaker 2: fake account that you have are those pictures of a
1:00:24
Speaker 2: girl you know? Or is this just a stranger?
1:00:28
Speaker 1: So those are all real pictures of my girlfriend Brooke.
1:00:31
Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, I use this as kind of the
1:00:34
Speaker 1: introduction to the series, but whenever I make a new account,
1:00:38
Speaker 1: it is pretty much the same pictures. It is always
1:00:41
Speaker 1: the name B with the B emoji. And if you
1:00:44
Speaker 1: see somebody else asking for fishing spots, they probably are
1:00:47
Speaker 1: a catfish. But it's not gonna be me. I know
1:00:50
Speaker 1: there's lots of other people doing this now.
1:00:52
Speaker 2: Okay, So in your bio, I noticed it said some
1:00:55
Speaker 2: stuff like what I enjoy doing fishing a goal of mine,
1:01:00
Speaker 2: my first steelhead. That is how Michael gets these guys
1:01:03
Speaker 2: to tell them his spots. Now, are you portraying someone
1:01:06
Speaker 2: who really loves fishing or someone who's new to fishing,
1:01:08
Speaker 2: someone who wants to go on a fishing day, like,
1:01:10
Speaker 2: tell us about this character you've created.
1:01:14
Speaker 1: So essentially, I try to make it as obvious as
1:01:17
Speaker 1: possible that I am who I am, especially to people
1:01:20
Speaker 1: who have seen the content before. And then when people
1:01:23
Speaker 1: match with me, I don't like string them along or
1:01:26
Speaker 1: get them invested in me as a person. I feel
1:01:28
Speaker 1: that's a little bit mean. Oh I just straight up
1:01:31
Speaker 1: ask them, like, tell me where you caught this fish
1:01:34
Speaker 1: fishing spots now? For whatever reason, that works really well
1:01:39
Speaker 1: for guys.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: Oh okay, some desperate men out there holding fish on
1:01:43
Speaker 2: dating apps for the locations guys give you, how often
1:01:46
Speaker 2: are they actual secret spots versus just community holes that
1:01:50
Speaker 2: everybody knows about.
1:01:52
Speaker 1: They're almost always community holes. Especially in the beginning when
1:01:56
Speaker 1: I wasn't famous for this, I get a lot of
1:02:00
Speaker 1: people who clearly just googled fishing spots near Bend. And
1:02:04
Speaker 1: because of that, if you look at the early content,
1:02:06
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like sea tier spots. As I
1:02:10
Speaker 1: got a little bit better at catfishing, people people would
1:02:12
Speaker 1: occasionally give me like less well known spots, but again
1:02:18
Speaker 1: it's spots you could easily find on Google. It's very rare.
1:02:21
Speaker 1: I get a suggestion that's like an actually good suggestion
1:02:24
Speaker 1: that I haven't known about prior.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell us about some of the highlights, the
1:02:29
Speaker 2: best days of fishing you've had thanks to Hinge.
1:02:33
Speaker 4: Awesome.
1:02:33
Speaker 1: So I like it when I match with a fan
1:02:37
Speaker 1: and they prank me, like they pretend to be somebody
1:02:40
Speaker 1: who is like falling for the scam and then they
1:02:42
Speaker 1: send me somewhere. So probably the funniest prank spot I've
1:02:45
Speaker 1: been sent to is it looks like it's this lake
1:02:49
Speaker 1: that's going to be super good on Google Earth. You know,
1:02:52
Speaker 1: it's off Elk Lake. It's nice and secluded, but it's
1:02:55
Speaker 1: where the cramarants, nest or cormorants. I read how you
1:02:58
Speaker 1: pronounce it. There's no fish in the lake like at all? Yeah,
1:03:02
Speaker 1: that spot exactly so, because there's like literally hundreds of
1:03:08
Speaker 1: fishing birds, there's absolutely no fish. There's squawking the whole
1:03:11
Speaker 1: time and yelling and just pooping in the water. It's
1:03:14
Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting. So I brought my brother thinking it would
1:03:18
Speaker 1: be like a fire secret spot, and no, we just
1:03:21
Speaker 1: got pranked hard.
1:03:22
Speaker 2: Oh okay, what about like real good days of fishing
1:03:25
Speaker 2: though that you've had. What about some like highlights that
1:03:27
Speaker 2: you've had.
1:03:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the best spot I've been recommended was also
1:03:32
Speaker 1: a prank. Somebody found these giant cliffs along the Dishoots
1:03:36
Speaker 1: River where there's just like no way to get down,
1:03:38
Speaker 1: and they said, oh, this is the spot, and I'm
1:03:41
Speaker 1: a rock climber, so I'm like, okay, giant cliffs, let's go.
1:03:44
Speaker 1: So I get down to the river and I caught
1:03:46
Speaker 1: close to thirty fish in an hour because nobody has
1:03:49
Speaker 1: been there before. And that's actually now like my go
1:03:52
Speaker 1: to spot. Whenever I want brown trout, I'll just stop
1:03:55
Speaker 1: at that specific spot on the way home, throw on
1:03:58
Speaker 1: a rainbow rappola, catch like five brown trout that are
1:04:01
Speaker 1: keeper size, and then just climb back out and have dinner.
1:04:04
Speaker 2: Wonderful. How about low lights? Besides the Cormorant Lake, where
1:04:09
Speaker 2: have you wound up where the fishing was just dreadful?
1:04:12
Speaker 1: There's actually been a lot of spots I've been to,
1:04:14
Speaker 1: especially on the coast, where I'm not familiar with, where
1:04:18
Speaker 1: it looks really good on Google, and then you get
1:04:20
Speaker 1: there and it's just Kelp, like Kelp all around. You
1:04:25
Speaker 1: can't throw a high low rig anywhere because it's just
1:04:27
Speaker 1: gonna get stuck. You can't use a jig because it's
1:04:30
Speaker 1: just gonna get stuck. And like, whenever I get to
1:04:33
Speaker 1: these spots, I know like I've been got and I
1:04:35
Speaker 1: just wasted a couple hours of driving, and then I'll
1:04:39
Speaker 1: try to find a nearby spot so I can actually
1:04:42
Speaker 1: make a video. Those spots tend not to make it
1:04:44
Speaker 1: into the series because I don't want to post a
1:04:47
Speaker 1: video where it's just like, yeah, I got screwed over
1:04:49
Speaker 1: by Kelp for two hours straight.
1:04:51
Speaker 2: I notice in all your videos you say that you
1:04:54
Speaker 2: use Hinge. Why Hinge over the other dating apps like
1:04:57
Speaker 2: Tinder or bumble?
1:04:59
Speaker 1: Yes, so hinge has the benefit where people can match
1:05:03
Speaker 1: with you and send you a message, and as the girl,
1:05:06
Speaker 1: you can read the message. So the vast majority of
1:05:11
Speaker 1: matches I get with people are not fishermen. They're just
1:05:14
Speaker 1: random people. They like, hey, no one's jacket, or they'll
1:05:18
Speaker 1: just send you a life with no context. And if
1:05:21
Speaker 1: I had to sift through all of those matches, it
1:05:24
Speaker 1: would be borderline impossible. I would also have to swipe
1:05:27
Speaker 1: right on pretty much everybody, which would be a big
1:05:29
Speaker 1: red flag in the system, and it'd get banned a
1:05:31
Speaker 1: lot faster. Like I still get banned all the time.
1:05:34
Speaker 1: But I assume if I was on the ender, just
1:05:35
Speaker 1: like mashing right with every single person, my accounts would
1:05:39
Speaker 1: only last.
1:05:40
Speaker 6: Like a day or two.
1:05:40
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of strategy. I didn't suspect there. Now
1:05:43
Speaker 2: you've done this experiment in Oregon and Hawaii. How did
1:05:47
Speaker 2: men in those two states differ when it comes to
1:05:49
Speaker 2: telling you about fishing spots?
1:05:52
Speaker 1: In Hawaii, I didn't really get any good fishing spots.
1:05:55
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because at that point my
1:05:58
Speaker 1: series had, like not to brag, but like millions of
1:06:01
Speaker 1: views and people just knew about me. But people would
1:06:05
Speaker 1: just tell me to go to like this same exact
1:06:07
Speaker 1: spot on Waikiki, which is where all the tourists hang
1:06:10
Speaker 1: out m M, and then in or again I would
1:06:13
Speaker 1: get I assume quite a few real suggestions of like
1:06:17
Speaker 1: actual fishing spots.
1:06:18
Speaker 2: Okay, now by this point you have seen thousands of
1:06:22
Speaker 2: dating profiles of guys. Tell us about some of the
1:06:24
Speaker 2: trends you've noticed with fishing pictures on dating apps.
1:06:30
Speaker 1: Uh, everybody has the same pose with the fish where
1:06:33
Speaker 1: they hold it out slightly in front of them and
1:06:36
Speaker 1: they're smiling behind it. I don't know if that's a
1:06:38
Speaker 1: good strategy or a bad strategy. But I've also seen
1:06:41
Speaker 1: like some really creative pictures of people posing with fish.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: And again I'm not a girl. I can't say like
1:06:48
Speaker 1: what is sexier or more attractive or what works better.
1:06:51
Speaker 1: But those people who like you know, are standing somewhere
1:06:55
Speaker 1: cool with the fish. It like a fish in their hand,
1:06:57
Speaker 1: and you can see the fish relative to the person's
1:06:59
Speaker 1: box and they're smiling like you know. To me, that
1:07:03
Speaker 1: is like, oh, this person actually knows where to fish.
1:07:05
Speaker 1: Let me go match with them.
1:07:06
Speaker 2: And see if I can get that spot. How has
1:07:10
Speaker 2: the catfishing been today? Have you been on Hinge yet
1:07:12
Speaker 2: this morning?
1:07:14
Speaker 1: I'm currently between accounts. The last time I made account,
1:07:18
Speaker 1: it was almost entirely fans of the show trying to
1:07:21
Speaker 1: prank me. So I don't know if I have to
1:07:24
Speaker 1: retire the series or just keep it going as like
1:07:26
Speaker 1: an inside joke. I still have a list of approximately
1:07:30
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty spots wow, catfish, Fryer that I
1:07:33
Speaker 1: need to get through so I can at least keep
1:07:35
Speaker 1: the series going for another year or two. But I
1:07:37
Speaker 1: am looking at like, you know, alternative like heel content
1:07:42
Speaker 1: where I'm slightly the bad guy, but I'm not being
1:07:45
Speaker 1: mean to anybody, and you know, again focused on like
1:07:48
Speaker 1: fishing and outdoorsy stuff.
1:07:50
Speaker 2: Wonderful. Okay, I'm very excited for season two. If people
1:07:53
Speaker 2: want to see your hinge catfishing and other fishing content,
1:07:57
Speaker 2: where should they go to do that?
1:07:59
Speaker 1: So I'm on TikTok only right now, I'm Central dot
1:08:02
Speaker 1: orgon dot fishing. I would encourage people not to follow
1:08:05
Speaker 1: the account unless you actually like the content, because I
1:08:09
Speaker 1: have a very odd sense of humor. Really yeah, I'd
1:08:13
Speaker 1: rather have people who actually appreciate that sense of humor
1:08:17
Speaker 1: and like watch the whole videos as opposed to people
1:08:20
Speaker 1: who just follow me for support and then don't watch
1:08:22
Speaker 1: the videos and kind of ruin the algorithm.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: For me, it's very good stuff, Michael. I like watching
1:08:27
Speaker 2: your content. I think folks will enjoy seeing your videos.
1:08:31
Speaker 2: Very creative at it's very creative series.
1:08:33
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us in. Good luck on the dating apps.
1:08:36
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for having me by now.
1:08:41
Speaker 2: Hm, I'm speechless. I wonder how we would do another
1:08:47
Speaker 2: part of the country. I feel like Oregon. I don't know, Phil,
1:08:51
Speaker 2: you from that part.
1:08:53
Speaker 3: Phil, you're used to catfishing people online.
1:08:55
Speaker 4: What do you say one of my favorite pastimes. I mean,
1:08:58
Speaker 4: Central Organs an incredible place, so it'd be plenty plenty
1:09:01
Speaker 4: of opportunities down there, I would guess. But again, I'm
1:09:04
Speaker 4: not not much much of a fisherman, so I couldn't
1:09:06
Speaker 4: speak of that.
1:09:07
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like you do really well around here
1:09:09
Speaker 5: because nobody's from here. Everybody's already ruined their friend's spot.
1:09:14
Speaker 5: Everybody's always open to sharing all their hot spots.
1:09:18
Speaker 3: I'm surprised I didn't know about this because one of
1:09:21
Speaker 3: my favorite TV shows of all time was To Catch
1:09:23
Speaker 3: a Predator.
1:09:25
Speaker 4: I thought you're going to have a picture with Chris
1:09:27
Speaker 4: with Chris Hansen, really i'd him. He signed, he signed
1:09:30
Speaker 4: a book for me.
1:09:31
Speaker 2: Well was the occasion?
1:09:32
Speaker 4: Oh, I was my best friend was the ASP president
1:09:36
Speaker 4: and he was doing something with our schools. He was like,
1:09:38
Speaker 4: we had sort of a we would watch to Catch
1:09:40
Speaker 4: a Predator together. It's Chris Hansen's coming, I can get
1:09:43
Speaker 4: you in. So yeah, it was.
1:09:44
Speaker 6: It was good.
1:09:47
Speaker 4: I thought I got the pack of my cards that
1:09:50
Speaker 4: need to be.
1:09:50
Speaker 2: I thought, you're going to say your favorite show is
1:09:52
Speaker 2: Was it Catfish with Neat? Uh? What's the MTV show?
1:09:55
Speaker 2: There was Catfish, Cheaters, Cheaters, the old HBO I love
1:10:01
Speaker 2: the host of that show got stamped. I think, yeah,
1:10:04
Speaker 2: what a good tie in for this show. Wow, we
1:10:06
Speaker 2: did it all right. That brings us to the end
1:10:08
Speaker 2: of the episode. Phil, Let's get some feedback from the chat.
1:10:10
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:10:11
Speaker 4: We found we've had a very active chat, but not
1:10:13
Speaker 4: a lot of questions. I think people are show but
1:10:16
Speaker 4: like a very popular one has been gas cans. Spencer
1:10:19
Speaker 4: going to reveal the gas cans this week.
1:10:22
Speaker 2: Not this week, but it's coming. I'm still going through
1:10:24
Speaker 2: all the emails.
1:10:24
Speaker 1: Uh.
1:10:25
Speaker 2: Very passionate folks wrote in about their favorite gas cans there.
1:10:29
Speaker 2: I think two that stand out above the rest. So
1:10:31
Speaker 2: I will get listeners that list very soon.
1:10:34
Speaker 3: I'll be waiting.
1:10:35
Speaker 4: Mike is wondering, Randall, have you ever read the book
1:10:37
Speaker 4: The Long Rifle Stewart Edward White.
1:10:41
Speaker 3: I don't think that I have, and I can't answer
1:10:43
Speaker 3: for Steve, but I'll check it out.
1:10:46
Speaker 2: Steve hasn't, no, Mike.
1:10:47
Speaker 3: Actually, one of my other top threes was gonna be
1:10:49
Speaker 3: best Books about shooting.
1:10:51
Speaker 2: Oh, very good.
1:10:53
Speaker 4: Mike also has another question that might be dumb. I
1:10:56
Speaker 4: don't know, because I don't know. I'm saying this about
1:10:58
Speaker 4: me because I'm I'm dumb, and I don't know if
1:11:00
Speaker 4: this is a good question or not. Why do I
1:11:01
Speaker 4: always see or what do I always see in the
1:11:04
Speaker 4: meat Eater videos on the gun muzzles to protect them,
1:11:06
Speaker 4: like a muzzle condom or electrical tape.
1:11:08
Speaker 2: Uh. Sometimes it's maybe literally a condom that folks will
1:11:11
Speaker 2: put on there. And what's that doing, Randall.
1:11:14
Speaker 3: It's keeping debris and moisture out of your barrel. I
1:11:18
Speaker 3: typically use electrical tape. But then I was reading I.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: Don't like where this is going. Well, I've always been
1:11:26
Speaker 2: to the impression that that does nothing for your ballistics.
1:11:28
Speaker 3: Oh no, it doesn't. But if you're using a high
1:11:31
Speaker 3: volume suppressor, like a suppressor that that can catch a
1:11:36
Speaker 3: lot of gas, there is the potential for complications using
1:11:41
Speaker 3: the electrical tape method because your bullet, if enough gas
1:11:46
Speaker 3: goes into your suppressor by the time that bullet is
1:11:50
Speaker 3: at your muzzle, it could. But I don't know. But
1:11:53
Speaker 3: it's just got me second guessing myself a little bit.
1:11:55
Speaker 5: Well, if you have a suppressor, make sure you get
1:11:57
Speaker 5: the FHF suppressor cover you.
1:12:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it'll keep the debris out, that's right.
1:12:04
Speaker 4: Next, we have a question from Mogor. Explain to a
1:12:09
Speaker 4: European guy how long it takes you to get to work.
1:12:11
Speaker 4: Apparently Randall lives way out in the middle of nowhere
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Speaker 4: to way out.
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Speaker 3: Well, RD thirty eight minutes if things are good, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: thirty eight. Well, because my truck knows where I'm going,
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Speaker 3: so it tells me. So that's how I I usually
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Speaker 3: like to leave forty five minutes early. Just a lot
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Speaker 3: of that is cutting through Bozeman.
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Speaker 2: We're approaching long commute season.
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Speaker 3: Twenty four Yeah, twenty four miles on the interstate, but
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Speaker 3: through a mountain pass. Yeah, through a mountain pass. But again,
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Speaker 3: I am only I think three miles from a Taco
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Speaker 3: bell maybe good.
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Speaker 2: I think my commute is probably like eighteen minutes.
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Speaker 5: What do you got, Corey, It takes about six minutes, Okay,
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Speaker 5: I could ride a bike here.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm very close.
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Speaker 4: Phil, what's your commune like twenty twenty five depending, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: thirty eight.
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Speaker 3: I'm on the other side of the past. That just
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Speaker 3: shows you how bad the infrastructure is here for motor
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Speaker 3: vehicle traffic. Hmm.
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Speaker 4: Our our producer who lives in Missoula, just said three hours.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The average commute I just google it for Americans
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Speaker 2: as of twenty twenty three is twenty seven minutes, which
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Speaker 2: I feel like we've found close to that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Chad is asking any tips for handling game meat with
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Speaker 4: trauma after being shot. I shot a buck in both
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Speaker 4: front shoulders, had a decent amount of trauma on the
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Speaker 4: insides of them.
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Speaker 2: Cut it out, Chad, Yeah, getting rid of I know
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Speaker 2: that there's a trick. Yeah, you don't want bloodshot meat
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Speaker 2: with even if you're doing the thing lowest on the
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Speaker 2: totem pole and like turning it into to ground meat.
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Speaker 2: Just keep that that bloodshots.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no secret secret sauce there.
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Speaker 4: Phil, What is the process for how I pick a
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Speaker 4: song to parody for a drop? There actually is a process.
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Speaker 4: I will open up a Spotify play list, like based
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Speaker 4: on a decade, so if I'm I kind of try to,
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Speaker 4: you know, span from sixties through current stuff, so I
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Speaker 4: also feel like a seventies song today, and then I'll
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Speaker 4: go through I'll scroll through all the biggest hits from
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Speaker 4: the seventies and then I'll be repeating the segment name
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Speaker 4: in my mind while I'm reading the list to try
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Speaker 4: to find, you know, some alliteration or rhyming or syllables
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Speaker 4: that match. Sometimes it's easier, like like hot Hot to
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Speaker 4: go for hot tips was obvious, but like doing Lose
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Speaker 4: Yourself for fake News, that one was a stretch. But
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Speaker 4: I was pretty proud of kind of making that work.
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Speaker 4: That's very good stuff. But yeah, that's how Phil.
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Speaker 2: Also, he doesn't want to go too obvious when we
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Speaker 2: have when we do the let's talk about sex segment,
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Speaker 2: I would have been very easy to do Saltan Peppa's No.
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Speaker 4: I ended up using that song for sir a different segment,
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Speaker 4: which yeah, yeah, it's been a guessing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do two more, Phil, you got two more?
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Speaker 2: Two more?
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Speaker 4: Uh nah, Well it's there's another one for me. But
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Speaker 4: that seems you Come on, we just counted specifically for
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Speaker 4: this one man, because no one's going to know what
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Speaker 4: the hell he's talking about. He's asking if I've played
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Speaker 4: Our Creators, which is the new hotness in gaming right now. No, no,
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Speaker 4: I'm not that it's a competitive sort of competitive multiplayer
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Speaker 4: game when when I've I've retired from those. I'm too old,
1:15:10
Speaker 4: i have kids, i can't I can't do, and I've
1:15:12
Speaker 4: been I'm a lapsed PC gamer. I've had a good
1:15:14
Speaker 4: PC in years, so I'm I'm I strictly stick to
1:15:18
Speaker 4: to console gaming for the most Partner Spencer, the other
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Speaker 4: Spencer was just at the met Eater flagship store and
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Speaker 4: he just wanted to give a shout out for for
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Speaker 4: for the for the crew there.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to the store boys.
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Speaker 2: We love the store boys, door boys. They have managed
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Speaker 2: to just fill that place with college age fellas and
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Speaker 2: they do a great job running it.
1:15:39
Speaker 3: Yes, whatever, I need someone to go drink a cold one.
1:15:43
Speaker 4: With, I'll do one that's for real, and we'll close out.
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Speaker 4: Store manager Brayden says, moving from Iowa to southern Idaho,
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Speaker 4: what versatile caliber rifle would you buy to hunt elk slash, deer,
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Speaker 4: slash other large game if you would only pick.
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Speaker 2: One, only pick one in Idaho with elk, deer and
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Speaker 2: other large game. What do you got?
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Speaker 3: Randall Um, I don't think you need to overthink this.
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Speaker 3: My my question to you would be how experienced are
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Speaker 3: you shooting center fire rifles? I think, uh, choosing the
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Speaker 3: right bullet and knowing how that bullet performs and.
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Speaker 2: Give him an answer.
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Speaker 3: Creedmore, there we go.
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Speaker 2: I think I would say a thirty odd six or
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Speaker 2: two seventy if you recoil conscious, maybe a three to
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Speaker 2: eight or a six five creed More Corey three hundred
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Speaker 2: win mag. Cory's go on the other end of the spectrum.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I shot everything with a three
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Speaker 3: hundred win mag for a while. I said, nothing wrong
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Speaker 3: with it.
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Speaker 5: I just can't quit. Yeah, new hot cartridges are so
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Speaker 5: lame to me.
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Speaker 3: Okay, three all the way.
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Speaker 2: He asked for one suggestion, I think we gave him five.
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Speaker 2: Good good luck, Brandon. All Right, that's the end of
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Speaker 2: this week's show. We'll be back here next week, same
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Speaker 2: time in place, by now