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  Speaker 1: Gooday.
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  Speaker 2: This has been from Goat Mozilla Chanda Crispy from Heavy
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  Speaker 2: Mag and this is all about our upcoming album, alien Nation,
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  Speaker 2: which released sixteen of August, so our first album that
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  Speaker 2: we've dropped since twenty nineteen. So massively excited and massively
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  Speaker 2: stoked to be here talking to Crispy about it.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful bad thanks for joining us tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Brother.
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  Speaker 3: So as you say, Godzilla, unleash you, you are of
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  Speaker 3: alienation this Zilla. So you say you're excited about it,
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  Speaker 3: brain it, that's got to be an understatement. Like there's
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  Speaker 3: been a long time between albums. You put a lot
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  Speaker 3: into this, bro, Like how you feeling? Did you think
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  Speaker 3: that it finally captured the true Goats?
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  Speaker 2: Still the sound none of there's the sounds of it
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  Speaker 2: is always evolving and and and growing. But this one
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  Speaker 2: it's it is. It's very it's different from Motherfucker Saurus.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, we absolutely love it. It's still certainly heavy,
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  Speaker 2: it's got it's got that heavy, the heavy background, it's
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  Speaker 2: got the still got the punk roots very much, so
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  Speaker 2: we're still very much a punk rock band, but bringing
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  Speaker 2: in more elements.
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  Speaker 1: Of metal as where as we're as we're.
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  Speaker 2: Evolving it's this is all stuff that's been written, probably
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  Speaker 2: through COVID and so on, and with with the two
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  Speaker 2: Pizza P one and P two coming in and throwing
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  Speaker 2: their stuff in, and Mick as well as Drama, who
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  Speaker 2: brought the real because he's a good fifteen plus years
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  Speaker 2: younger than us, and he bought some more modern metal
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  Speaker 2: vibes and sensibilities to it. So yeah, look, we're yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're really excited. It took a lot longer than we
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  Speaker 2: originally thought, be course of COVID and everything that went
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  Speaker 2: along with it.
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  Speaker 1: We ended up recording it all ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: There's one track on there, Guy Cooper from Serotonin recorded
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  Speaker 2: which is Nightmare, and Guy helped me out with the
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  Speaker 2: vocals because I don't have the patience to sit there
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  Speaker 2: and bloody hack away at logic and try to try
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  Speaker 2: to second guess my vocals, so he did that. But
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  Speaker 2: everything else saw all the guitars, all the drums and
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  Speaker 2: the bass we recorded in home studios and P two
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  Speaker 2: Pete Janssen mixed and mastered everything himself, so big learning curve,
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  Speaker 2: but absolutely loved it. And yeah, the the results speak
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  Speaker 2: for themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely stoked.
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  Speaker 2: We we're very really excited. With what we've put together
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  Speaker 2: and especially having it on vinyl too, So so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so stoked.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't listened to her before we had a church
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  Speaker 3: and Iden, the first thing that jumped out of me
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  Speaker 3: was very guitar driven, corrected, saying.
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  Speaker 2: That, yeah, I mean we're we're a guitar band and
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  Speaker 2: that's and that's where, you know, that's that's where everything
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  Speaker 2: that all the music we love is heavily guitar bass
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  Speaker 2: and comes from guitar heroes, you know.
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  Speaker 1: From Yeah, there's bluesy stuff there. P two is a huge, huge.
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  Speaker 2: Slash fan, and P one's a big big Steve I fan.
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  Speaker 2: We all love Van Hale, and we all love Kerry King,
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  Speaker 2: we all love you know, you know, Stevie.
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  Speaker 1: Ray Vaughn even going back that far kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: So there's all these different mixtures of different influences, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's all it's all about the guitars. Both the guys
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  Speaker 2: play solos different styles and they take turns on different songs.
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  Speaker 1: It's a couple of songs on there, like Alien Nation the.
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  Speaker 2: Title cut where they both have a crack at the
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  Speaker 2: solo and they take turns on it. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: all it's all about good old seventy slash eighties face
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  Speaker 2: melting guitar solos.
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  Speaker 3: You get trying to tell me that you've got two
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  Speaker 3: guitarists with no egos in the band. That's got to
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  Speaker 3: be a first.
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  Speaker 1: We've we've been really lucky.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing with the with the band is, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's musicians. This might come as a surprise to some people.
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  Speaker 2: Musicians can be funny, funny people.
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  Speaker 1: And ego get in the way a lot of times.
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  Speaker 2: We're one of the reasons that we've that we've we've
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  Speaker 2: just stuck together so well is that we all everybody
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  Speaker 2: gets on and we just we all love the same music.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm really fortunate to be playing with a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of very talented guys. It's both both the piets Mick.
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  Speaker 2: We've actually got two drummers at the moment. So we've
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  Speaker 2: got Mick, the drummer who played on most of the tracks.
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  Speaker 2: Now we've got Thiago as well. They're both coming in
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  Speaker 2: and taking turns playing because Thiago Thago plays as.
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  Speaker 1: Drummers do play in a couple of other bands.
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  Speaker 2: But Mix Mix always happy to jump in if if
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  Speaker 2: Thiago can't make it but they're all incredibly talented, and
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  Speaker 2: there's all this amazing, huge amount of respect for for
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  Speaker 2: everybody's everybody's abilities, and everybody brings something different musically to
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  Speaker 2: the to the mix. So writing is writing. Writing is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. It's it's probably part of the
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  Speaker 2: process that getting a song from a concept and turning
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  Speaker 2: it into something that's that's a fully blown songs. It's
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  Speaker 2: my favorite part of the process. And we're back to
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  Speaker 2: doing that now. So we've got this album out of
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  Speaker 2: the way. So we just at the last rehearsal we
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  Speaker 2: started working on new stuff and that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: But that that's that's for next year. So is happening now.
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  Speaker 1: But there's no no egos. We're lucky.
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  Speaker 2: We've just got a bunch of really really good guys
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  Speaker 2: who we we just get along and which is important
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  Speaker 2: because spend a lot of time in cars and in
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  Speaker 2: rehearsal studios with each other and we're just all good
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  Speaker 2: mates and we all love the same music and we
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  Speaker 2: all love making making making loud noise, which is which
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  Speaker 2: is what it's all about.
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  Speaker 3: Damn straight Brother. Now, to date, you've released a single,
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  Speaker 3: Secret Agent Man, and the title track Alien Nations, so
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  Speaker 3: are they good solid representation of what to expect from
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  Speaker 3: now a Rule album.
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  Speaker 2: It's they're both a bit different. There's a really there's
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  Speaker 2: a real mix. Secret Agent Man's pretty funky. We've had
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  Speaker 2: people dancing the macarina to it up and see that
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  Speaker 2: in the Metal gig. I can tell you that was
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  Speaker 2: a bit that's a bit funny, but now it's a
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  Speaker 2: fun track. It's got a bit of a funky vibe
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  Speaker 2: to it. Alien Nation is uh, that's a that's how
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  Speaker 2: would you describe that? There's that that's both the peach
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  Speaker 2: share share solos on that, uh and that that's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun but not as not as funky, but
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  Speaker 2: there's a bit of vocal harmonization going on that.
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  Speaker 1: And then in the.
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  Speaker 2: Other tracks with we do you know, we go through
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  Speaker 2: some heavier and some some darker stuff, things like pain.
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  Speaker 1: And Wall Street generals.
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  Speaker 2: They tackle a few more serious kind of kind of concepts,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a bit more fun, kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: seventies based rock. We do Nightmare, which is more of
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  Speaker 2: an Akadaka type type thing, and Leave It All Behind,
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  Speaker 2: which is a little bit more Sunday Head, more into
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  Speaker 2: the metal territory, and then you've got black Dog Blues,
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  Speaker 2: which is a real kind of as the name implies,
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  Speaker 2: a bluesy rock songs that's more like you Rose Tattoo
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  Speaker 2: Slash the Poor kind of that that Aussie rock seventies
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  Speaker 2: eighties ossie rock, pub rock vibe.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I was speaking of concepts, mate, like, is
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  Speaker 3: the album a look into the alien world through the
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  Speaker 3: eyes of Goatzilla or is it just a cool name
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  Speaker 3: the album?
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  Speaker 1: It's the name, well, it's the it was.
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  Speaker 2: It's the name of the track Alien Nation that we
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  Speaker 2: came up with, and the the lyrics that that the
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  Speaker 2: song went through. A couple of different incarnations had different
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  Speaker 2: different lyrics to it, and this one I came up
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  Speaker 2: with was it was all about just how much we
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  Speaker 2: love playing there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, were kind of because it.
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  Speaker 2: Was around COVID and kind of all the venues are
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  Speaker 2: starting to close down and all the all festivals and
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  Speaker 2: everything and disappearing, and we're going, look, We're just thinking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what's happening to all this group of people.
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  Speaker 1: We've got this like the tribe of.
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  Speaker 2: People who love music that we used to go out
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  Speaker 2: and spend weekends with, and you just see all these
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  Speaker 2: different people and we're not seeing them anymore because all
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  Speaker 2: the all the music disappeared because of COVID and and
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  Speaker 2: the songs just about that those friendships that you make
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  Speaker 2: in the music scene and just whether whether you're playing
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  Speaker 2: in a band or just going out as part of
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  Speaker 2: the crowd, you start seeing a lot of the same
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  Speaker 2: people and you make really good friendships, your form bonds,
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  Speaker 2: and it's and and and it's about that. It's about
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  Speaker 2: music being something that we all love, and the and
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  Speaker 2: the vibe being at a concept but it's bigger than.
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  Speaker 1: The sum of its parts kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: And we're disappearing with COVID and so on, we're getting
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  Speaker 2: alienated kind of things. So that was that was the
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  Speaker 2: idea that that was the idea behind that that track,
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  Speaker 2: and we just thought it was it was a cool,
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  Speaker 2: cool name for the album, so we made it the
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  Speaker 2: title cup That's Sweet.
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  Speaker 3: Now it goes to a like musically, essentially, you're a punk,
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  Speaker 3: thrash metal band sort of hybrid of all of those.
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  Speaker 3: But and in the writing and recording process, like how
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  Speaker 3: do you decide how much you have which started to
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  Speaker 3: put into each song? Like is it if you've got
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  Speaker 3: a method to sort of know when you're gone too
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  Speaker 3: far or.
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  Speaker 4: Not far enough.
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  Speaker 1: We we just we just work on it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's really person.
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  Speaker 2: Who came up with the concept usually has that they've
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  Speaker 2: got the call at the end of the day because
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  Speaker 2: they've got You've got to have you've got to have
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's kind of in artistic control.
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  Speaker 1: It can't be like this total communal thing. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to have some you've got to have it's
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  Speaker 2: one person's vision because songwriting is a it's a very
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  Speaker 2: personal thing, and you can share concepts and you can
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  Speaker 2: share the idea about where a song's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you still need
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  Speaker 2: one person to make the call. So we'll all throwing
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  Speaker 2: ideas into the pot and all work than and give
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  Speaker 2: all the ideas to read a hot crack and we
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: come up with some amazing stuff like that. But at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's something I wrote, I
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  Speaker 2: get the I get to save. It's something one he
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  Speaker 2: gets at p. Two, right, he gets the end saying
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  Speaker 2: in what happens.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, in the.
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  Speaker 2: Main, it's a collaborative process. But yeah, it's a it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: Now you mentioned before that alien Nation is quite different
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  Speaker 3: to twenty nineties album Motherfucker Sauras, so how so, like,
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  Speaker 3: how's it different?
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  Speaker 2: Motherfucker Saurus was really punky because that was that was
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  Speaker 2: that was the first incarnation of Goatzilla, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that came out from we were we started off
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  Speaker 2: playing a lot of the punk gigs. Johnny Chaos who
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  Speaker 2: started the band with me, he was really into his
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: into zoi and street punk, and we'd play, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we played a lot of gigs with you know, awesome,
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  Speaker 2: awesome bands like Plan of Attack and and and Shandy
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  Speaker 2: and and Rat Bastards and so on, and that was
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  Speaker 2: that was. That was a lot of fun, and there's
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  Speaker 2: just a there's a total that there's a real vibe
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  Speaker 2: and an energy to that kind of music. And it
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  Speaker 2: was it was it was just it was all about attitude.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's like, you know, it's eighty twenty attitude kind
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  Speaker 2: of then then music.
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  Speaker 1: And this way. Now we've swapped it around a.
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  Speaker 2: Bit, so it's we've we've we've still got very you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's still a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of punk sensibilities in there in that.
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  Speaker 2: We do what we do and we're not we're not
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  Speaker 2: trying to fit a formula and trying to fit a
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  Speaker 2: particular style. But because of the the backgrounds of both
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  Speaker 2: the PiZZ and and Mick and more recently Thiago, there's
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot more musical focus on musicianship and what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing there. So it's it's kind of it's kind
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: of evolving and morphing, and we're just seeing where it
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  Speaker 2: takes us and and we record it and go do
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  Speaker 2: we like it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We like it.
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  Speaker 2: And we're taking the old, the old Malcolm Young approach.
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  Speaker 2: We do what we do and we don't give a
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  Speaker 2: fuck about what anybody else thinks. And we're just lucky
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  Speaker 2: that that people seem to like it so and we'll
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  Speaker 2: keep doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the big question is like, well, fans of
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  Speaker 3: your earliest stuff on Motherfucker saw Us still like the
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  Speaker 3: stuff on Alien Nation?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? They will.
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  Speaker 2: We Actually we readed one of the tracks, so we
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  Speaker 2: READI fight to Win. So if a fans have fight
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  Speaker 2: to win, we've don't fight to win round two h
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  Speaker 2: and we've got the we We've amped that up a bit.
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  Speaker 1: And added added.
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  Speaker 2: A few bits and pieces there, so you can, if
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  Speaker 2: anybody is interested, you can compare the two different versions
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  Speaker 2: and that's probably a good yardstick as to how we
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  Speaker 2: do it. It's just a bit that song that we
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  Speaker 2: always plays off our gigs with that one, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we just thought it was a it was a good
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  Speaker 2: little exercise to to put that intot the end of
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  Speaker 2: the album.
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  Speaker 3: We Don't Seller a part way through a tour that
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  Speaker 3: started back on Dune to Sick the Newcastle picks up
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  Speaker 3: again in Port Kembler on October to fifth before going
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  Speaker 3: through Lismore and Melbourne, finishing an if switch on November
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  Speaker 3: the sixteenth. Mate, So how's how the first round of
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  Speaker 3: shows going?
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  Speaker 2: They all right, Yeah, it was brilliant. So the run
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  Speaker 2: to Sydney was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: We had.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was the first gig was it was
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  Speaker 2: a little bit quieter than we'd hope simply because it
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely it was pissing down raining Newcastle.
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  Speaker 1: We still got people turning up, which was which was good.
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  Speaker 2: But then the weather cleared up and people started coming
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  Speaker 2: out after that, so I played some awesome van News
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  Speaker 2: did the Cabin Collective in Maitland, which was absolutely brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's like a it's a tattoo shop with a cafe
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  Speaker 2: in now at the back of the cafe and tattoo shop.
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  Speaker 2: They put on live bands, so that was cool. In
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  Speaker 2: his recording studio upstairs as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so that was brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: And then we played Elton Chong's in Penrith which was
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  Speaker 2: once again really really cool, little small narrow dive bar
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  Speaker 2: and had an absolute ball there. Played Bootleggers in Newtown
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  Speaker 2: which was also really cool. They're trying to kind of
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: pick up the slack from Frank's kind of had to
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  Speaker 2: fold in Sydney. But yeah, that that first one was
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  Speaker 2: really was really cool. In a couple of weeks, we've
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  Speaker 2: got to update the calendar. We've got we've got Paul
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  Speaker 2: mcquarie on Friday the sixth and then the back room
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  Speaker 2: at Coughs on Saturday the seventh, So Paul mcquarie's the
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  Speaker 2: Planets Skate and that's that's shaping up to be quite
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  Speaker 2: a quite.
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  Speaker 1: A big one.
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  Speaker 2: So the management there is looking about two hundred heads
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  Speaker 2: through the door, which would be which is going to
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  Speaker 2: be fantastic, and we're getting a lot of help with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of really cool local bands as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so we're excited to be to be.
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  Speaker 2: Playing with them and the back room we're just starting
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  Speaker 2: to pump that at the moment, so we're we're hoping
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  Speaker 2: to get a decent, decent turnout for that. But love loving,
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  Speaker 2: loving the loving, the touring, touring, love playing Southeast Queensland
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  Speaker 2: a home, but it's also great to get out into
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  Speaker 2: the into the wild and meet new people and playing
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  Speaker 2: new venues and play with new bands as well.
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  Speaker 3: And where can people find out more inforational about those
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  Speaker 3: shows and grab tickets if they're in those areas.
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  Speaker 2: If you get on to go, if you go on
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  Speaker 2: to Facebook Facebook page go Zilla dot rocks, and or
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  Speaker 2: if you go link tree goat Zilla dot rocks, we've
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  Speaker 2: got all the information.
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  Speaker 3: There now for those who might not have seen Goatzilla
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  Speaker 3: live before and they're unsure whether to go or not.
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  Speaker 3: Run us through a typical goatsill A live shaw Ah.
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  Speaker 2: It's fairly fast, fairly furious. We don't stop for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of breaks. The guys don't get much of a
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  Speaker 2: chance to reach you or anything. We kind of we
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  Speaker 2: we start off hard and fast and keep the pace
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  Speaker 2: up all the way through. So it's all about that
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  Speaker 2: vibe of like live, small venue rock.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit older school.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're seventies, eighties, nineties fan that kind of style.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know where you especially the kind of thrash
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  Speaker 1: thrashier stuff as well. You'll you'll love it. It's a
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  Speaker 1: it's an experience, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All bet all right, well thanks very much of your
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  Speaker 3: time tonight. Alien Nation is out this Friday, August sixteenth,
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  Speaker 3: and she is a fucking good album made. Like I say,
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  Speaker 3: listening for him, she's a cracking luck with it. Love
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  Speaker 3: to see you in the Prey show soon.
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  Speaker 5: I have Jack Jet Let's go by, I said, Spike
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  Speaker 5: sais out, got it, lay and shut out, Blood of
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  Speaker 5: fun this stay there, shy your souls about ten bys,
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  Speaker 5: rose pies, o Jas light and blood of Sun show
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