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Brian Thomas spends a full hour with Private Citizen Brad Wenstrup · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's seven oh six and a very happy happy Friday
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Speaker 1: to you, Brian Thomas Hosi. I think you've got Charrasey
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Speaker 1: morning show. So please when I look up and see
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Speaker 1: across the table here former Congressman now citizen Brad Weinster up,
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Speaker 1: good to see my friend. I enjoy our conversations. Always
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Speaker 1: good to be here, and you're an informed man. When
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Speaker 1: it comes to the legislative process, it looks like they've
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Speaker 1: got things ironed out for the most part, at least
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Speaker 1: the process to get things ironed out. Ultimately, you know,
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Speaker 1: flies in the ointment can disrupt the whole thing. But
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Speaker 1: we had five spending bills or six spending bills completely
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Speaker 1: agreed on, passed by the House. Of course, Chuckie Schumer
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Speaker 1: used the crisis in Minneapolis as an opportunity to say
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Speaker 1: we need DHS reform. So they peel that one off
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Speaker 1: past the other five, which means since they changed the
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Speaker 1: original package, now it's got to go back to the House.
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Speaker 1: House representatives are out until Monday. Funding ends at noon tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: so we're at least going to have some period of shutdown.
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Speaker 1: What's your tea leaf reading in so far is when
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Speaker 1: it's sent back to the House, and I know they're
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Speaker 1: going to be wrangling over what is it body cameras, warrants,
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Speaker 1: administrative warrants versus judicial warrants, and roving patrols. Those are
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Speaker 1: the three things Schumer specifically identified he wanted dealt with.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to look like on paper,
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Speaker 1: especially the warrant thing, But it goes back to the
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Speaker 1: House Tea lea freading on whether it's going to just
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Speaker 1: sail through as some are suggesting it will, or will
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Speaker 1: this turn into some more protracted shutdown period or will
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Speaker 1: they just go ahead and pass a continuing resolution and
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Speaker 1: then we'll find out whether it's going to be extended.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, some of the things that Schumer's talking
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Speaker 2: about is what you would call an opening volley, right,
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Speaker 2: And so we'll see where some of those things go.
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Speaker 2: But it looks like what they'll probably do. And you know,
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Speaker 2: don't mark my word on it, per se, because, as
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Speaker 2: you like to say, the flies in the ointment, right,
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Speaker 2: but a lot of things have already been agreed upon.
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Speaker 2: Don't shut down the government over one thing. And I
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Speaker 2: think they'll do like a continued resolution for homeland security
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Speaker 2: for a few weeks on arguing over the h Let's
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Speaker 2: have the debate and let's have the conversation. And you're
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Speaker 2: already starting to see some things turn within the administration
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Speaker 2: and over that topic, in particular. For Tom Homan to
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Speaker 2: be in Minnesota talking to the players that be, you know,
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Speaker 2: he's a pretty strong voice, and he knows how to
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Speaker 2: say things pretty well, I think, and have the conversations
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Speaker 2: and be matter of fact. So we'll see. But it
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Speaker 2: at least is another opening volley too. The other side
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Speaker 2: of the equation.
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Speaker 1: Sure, well, I think the air has been taken out
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Speaker 1: of the Minneapolis thing based upon what happened yesterday. And
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Speaker 1: I know we were going to get this in a
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Speaker 1: certain order this morning. You wanted to do a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a historical approach to Minneapolis. But I think
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Speaker 1: Homan and the administration and of course even the Democrats
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Speaker 1: realize it's indefensible to try to prevent demonstrably dangerous people
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Speaker 1: locked up in prison and serving time for crime they
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Speaker 1: call the committed here in the United States. You just
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Speaker 1: can't defend not booting them out of the country when
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Speaker 1: there's a detention order waiting for them when they come
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Speaker 1: out of jail. So Democrats have a tough problem with that.
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Speaker 2: They have a hard time saying we like criminals, we
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Speaker 2: want them on our streets right right.
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Speaker 1: As of right now, it's a home in and at
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Speaker 1: least the governors seem to have worked on an agreement where, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're going to allow the ICE agents to get into
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Speaker 1: jails when these people are released subject to attention order,
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Speaker 1: we're going to let you have them. That's the criminals.
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Speaker 1: In so far as you going out into the world
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Speaker 1: and picking up anybody that's that is here illegally, that
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Speaker 1: isn't going to happen, or at least that's the plan
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Speaker 1: no more. Maybe that goes to the roving patrol thing
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Speaker 1: that Schumer wants memorialized in legislation, but at least in
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Speaker 1: so far as what's going on currently, the chaotic situation,
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Speaker 1: if they can go after the bad guys and the
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Speaker 1: bad guys only that will make the community say for
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Speaker 1: the Democrats will not have to defend those bad guys.
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Speaker 1: But while they can still defend you know, the dreamer
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Speaker 1: or the guy who's been here for fifteen years and
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Speaker 1: has worked his fingers to the brow and has contributed
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Speaker 1: to society all the you know, pull at your heartstrings
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Speaker 1: kind of arguments that they make.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of those people that have been innocent
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Speaker 2: of any crime except for being here illegally, why weren't
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Speaker 2: they making their case sooner? This has been talked about
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Speaker 2: for years, and so why didn't they make the case
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Speaker 2: sooner than It's like, Hey, I got to find a
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Speaker 2: way to be here legally because you know, I haven't
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Speaker 2: done anything wrong, But let me tell me what I
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Speaker 2: need to do right. Well, you know it's instead of
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Speaker 2: waiting until this crisis, if you will, right.
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Speaker 1: But there's nothing I would imagine. I've never poured through them.
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Speaker 1: Here's me being on record honest with you. I've never
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Speaker 1: poured through the all of the immigration laws. But I suspect,
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Speaker 1: because that's never happened, that there is no vehicle within
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Speaker 1: the current immigration laws for someone who entered the country
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Speaker 1: illegally to somehow manage to get in line and do
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Speaker 1: it legally. Don't they have to leave the country and
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Speaker 1: then apply for legal citizens and go through the whole
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Speaker 1: process of legal citizenship.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most likely. But keep in mind, you know Democrats
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Speaker 2: have had the House, Senate and the White House. Why
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Speaker 2: didn't they change the immigration laws to accommodate that if
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Speaker 2: they feel that that's so important, and I would be
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Speaker 2: more than happy to have that conversation. You remember State
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Speaker 2: of the Union when of Trump's first in his first
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Speaker 2: term talking about DACA, and Democrats were like, Yeah, these
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Speaker 2: kids that were brought here at a young age, they've
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Speaker 2: done nothing wrong. We should give them an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: stay here. And they threw out a number and Trump
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Speaker 2: tripled it, and they sat on their hands during State
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Speaker 2: of the Union. They didn't applaud it because it was Trump.
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Speaker 1: Trump. Yeah, that's TDS right there, Trump's arrangement syndrome. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they do such stupid things sometimes to themselves in the
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Speaker 1: name of just going against evil Orange man.
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Speaker 2: He's supporting what you say you want. As a matter
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Speaker 2: of fact, he's tripling what you say you want.
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Speaker 1: And they just wait.
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Speaker 2: And as he said at the last day of the Union,
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Speaker 2: he said, it doesn't matter what I say tonight, you
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Speaker 2: will not applaud one thing, right, And you know what,
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Speaker 2: they played along with him. They didn't applaud one thing,
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Speaker 2: not one.
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Speaker 1: It's really it's terrible that they're like that, and it's
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Speaker 1: just a reflection on how dysfunctional our country is. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, you really can't help but laughing about it
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Speaker 1: when you see it, because you can't make it go away,
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Speaker 1: so you may as well just make fun of them
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Speaker 1: for making idiots out of themselves.
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Speaker 2: The bottom line is, and we saw this through impeachment
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Speaker 2: and everything else, Brian, if you're not grateful to be
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Speaker 2: able to live in a country where we get to
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Speaker 2: elect our leaders, then you have a problem. And if
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Speaker 2: you don't like the results, you usually buckle up and
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Speaker 2: get ready for the next one. But that's not what
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Speaker 2: happened with impeachment, and that's not what's going on now.
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Speaker 2: Is just, hey, he won, Okay, work with that battlefield
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Speaker 2: if you will. Instead of just trying to find things
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Speaker 2: to run him out and do all this stuff, put
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Speaker 2: up your leader and try and win the next time.
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Speaker 1: Right. Well, you know, I think of a couple of
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Speaker 1: things along and as long wanting to pack the Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court with a bunch of liberal justices because they're not
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Speaker 1: getting what they want by way of Supreme Court decisions.
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Speaker 1: The other one, and this is the slippery slope. I mean,
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Speaker 1: people scream about Donald Trump being a dictator fascist whatever
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Speaker 1: he does, enjoy very liberal use of the pen and
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Speaker 1: phone the executive pen and phone Barack Obama. Hey, I
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Speaker 1: got a pen, I got a phone. Screw you guys.
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Speaker 1: You can't get along and pass what I want to do.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go it alone. Right. That's exactly what he
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Speaker 1: set the stage for. And that's why when people start
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Speaker 1: screaming about getting rid of the filibuster in the Senate,
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Speaker 1: you know, fine, go ahead and get rid of it
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Speaker 1: because it's your guy. Guess who may be next, and
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Speaker 1: then you'll be all carping about. But we got rid
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Speaker 1: of the philibuster. We shouldn't have done that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it already happened with the judgements, you know,
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Speaker 2: and Democrats did that and okay, well now it's our turn.
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Speaker 1: Giddy up.
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Speaker 2: And that's just the way of the world where our
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Speaker 2: founders set things up to make it difficult. I know, right,
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Speaker 2: but you know I'm gonna I'll get into.
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Speaker 1: This a little bit. Today.
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Speaker 2: We have people in Congress that don't like America. So
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Speaker 2: it's not about just hey, we have the same goals,
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Speaker 2: we have the same mission set, we just have different
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Speaker 2: policy ways of getting there. Now, it's like we don't
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Speaker 2: like this country, we don't like our constitution. That's where
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Speaker 2: we really get into trouble today.
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Speaker 1: And that's where we are today, and I agree with
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Speaker 1: you wholeheartedly. Let's pause. We'll bring citizen former Congressman Brad
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Speaker 1: Winser back and thank you again for serving our country. There,
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Speaker 1: I would like to bring up you did serve your
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Speaker 1: country militarily speaking, which gives you a solid ground to
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Speaker 1: talk about things like NATO for example, which I know
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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about coming up. Don't go away, folks,
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Speaker 1: I want to mention Shimnycare, fireplace and stove though first
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Speaker 1: a couple got back with the patient seven nineteen. I
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Speaker 1: could about Precycak station Happy Friday. Brian Thomas was citizen
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Speaker 1: brand win Strip in studio, of course, proudly wore the
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Speaker 1: uniform of our country and served as a congressman for
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Speaker 1: some period of time. We're going through the issues and
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Speaker 1: before we dive in an a to real quick care. Ah,
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Speaker 1: you mentioned going to the break that, Yeah, there are
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Speaker 1: people that we have of the United States citizens have
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Speaker 1: elected to the House and potentially even Senate who do
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Speaker 1: not like our country, who do not like our country. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they don't like the system of government. They think it's boring.
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Speaker 1: They use the argument that we were born of original
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Speaker 1: sin and therefore are irredeemable. But ultimately their goal is
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Speaker 1: to completely undermine and destroy the country and hopefully, like
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Speaker 1: phoenix rising from the ashes, some socialist you know, manifestation
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Speaker 1: is going to come out and we're all going to be,
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Speaker 1: you know, rainbows and unicorns and singing happy songs together.
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Speaker 1: Which is a lot of crap, But I agree with you,
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Speaker 1: and I've been noting this, okay. You know, you have
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Speaker 1: this concerted effort to undermine law enforcement. Black Lives Matter,
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Speaker 1: for example, they're all evil and you get people to
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Speaker 1: start maybe even half of which or some of which
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Speaker 1: at least some believe, yeah, irredeemable. We need to rethink them.
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Speaker 1: That's one of the pillars of the system. Yes, upholding
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Speaker 1: the law and being paid our country. You don't want
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Speaker 1: to uphold the law. Now they're going off the federal
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Speaker 1: level with ice. You cannot uphold the law. You're evil.
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Speaker 1: That is again, it's an underpinning of our American way
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Speaker 1: of life. Enforcement of the existing laws. Existing laws are
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Speaker 1: wrong and bad, and.
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Speaker 2: It's the only way it's going to work, right, and
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Speaker 2: it's worked for two hundred and fifty years. But you
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Speaker 2: know also the benefit we have here because communist countries
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Speaker 2: have laws too, but it's a little bit different process.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no process, We write them.
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Speaker 2: We the people, with our representatives, write those laws, and
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Speaker 2: we have the ability to change those laws exactly, and
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Speaker 2: that should be the process, not violence in the street.
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Speaker 2: But you know, the other topic that we hear about
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Speaker 2: a lot now is NATO and oh gosh, what is
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Speaker 2: Trump doing? You know, we're getting out of where we
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Speaker 2: abandoning Europe and all this. And look, well we saw
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Speaker 2: these countries that were dominant countries, colonizing the world, going
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Speaker 2: all over the world, and now they won't defend themselves.
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Speaker 1: Pre World War two anyway, Yeah, exactly, they were historic
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Speaker 1: mighty powers. The British ruled the world. There's you know,
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Speaker 1: the four Corners of the world. There was some British
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Speaker 1: occupied territory there.
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Speaker 2: The sun never sets on the British Empire.
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Speaker 1: Was the line. I couldn't remember. Spanish empires, of course
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Speaker 1: they went and conquered. They were all the way into
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Speaker 1: South America and other places in Florida here in the
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Speaker 1: United States. Well, what is now the answer? I get you?
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Speaker 1: What happened to those kinds?
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Speaker 2: So we have World War Two and it takes the
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Speaker 2: United States of America and really other allies to come
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Speaker 2: into Europe and solve this problem with a lot of
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Speaker 2: loss of treasure.
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Speaker 1: And the rebuilding.
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Speaker 2: Man, it was costly and that was costly too, and
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Speaker 2: all this done for Europe and then NATO was formed
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Speaker 2: strengthen them, you know what, lets them be stronger. We'll
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Speaker 2: be part of it because we don't want to be
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Speaker 2: in these types of wars with you anymore. But you
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Speaker 2: got to do your own part. And that's not what
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Speaker 2: has been happening. And you know what, Donald Trump is
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Speaker 2: not the first president to say this goes this goes
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Speaker 2: back to the other presidents. People need to do their
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Speaker 2: fair share. Well, you know what, he has enforced it.
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Speaker 2: And the good news is is spite of what you
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Speaker 2: might hear in the media. You know, you heard the
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Speaker 2: head of NATO just last week say, I just had
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Speaker 2: a great conversation with President Trump. We're in a good place. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, and he's driving it forward. So it's not
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Speaker 2: like we're just abandoning him. But you know, we have
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Speaker 2: a situation where we've got other countries with nukes and
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Speaker 2: things like that, and that's where NATO came about. But
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Speaker 2: let's not forget the Monroe doctrine. And the Monroe doctrine
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Speaker 2: is we need to protect our hemisphere. Let's protect our hemisphere.
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Speaker 2: You can go back to Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's in our hemisphere, and we had the
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Speaker 2: pig situation and those missiles that were sitting in Cuba
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Speaker 2: aimed at the United States of America. That was an
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Speaker 2: effort consistent with the Monroe Doctrine by the Kennedy administration.
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Speaker 2: And this goes back. I mean, you had Ronald Reagan
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Speaker 2: adhering to it and winning the Cold War basically, and
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Speaker 2: that was a huge gain for us to help keep
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Speaker 2: our hemisphere safer. But Bush Clinton, the second Bush, they
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Speaker 2: all respected the Munroe doctrine and some of it did
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Speaker 2: it through increased trade and prioritize security and promoting democracy
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Speaker 2: and peace and prosperity. But then comes along Barack Obama
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Speaker 2: and he starts entertaining dictators and criminals and terrorists and cartels.
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Speaker 2: I mean, John Kerry even said Monroe Doctrine's done. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's what happened under the Obama administration. And when everything
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Speaker 2: started to change. So although he was publicly saying we
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Speaker 2: have too many illegal immigrants coming into our country, he
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Speaker 2: was promoting all these other things within our hemisphere. And
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Speaker 2: you know, I'll never forget the sight of Obama with
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Speaker 2: Raul Castro at a baseball game. Yeah, you know, and
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Speaker 2: you know what, okay, what was your effort there? Were
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Speaker 2: you trying to get them to become a democracy.
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Speaker 1: Or were you just saying, oh, he's hanging out with
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Speaker 1: It's okay, he was hanging out with one of his heroes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the revolutionary heroes. He's Obama's just upset that Scheg Guavara
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Speaker 1: got killed by his own people, in essence, because they
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Speaker 1: let him die at the hand of the Was it
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Speaker 1: the Bolivian army got that off Czeg Guavara? Yeah, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: wear your j T shirt. He's not around anymore, but
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Speaker 1: that is Raul Castro. He's got the name anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I'll be down there and let's
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Speaker 2: play ball.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, most of the Cuban people
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Speaker 2: expect more from America still today, and certainly the Cuban
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Speaker 2: Americans that we have here expect more. But you know,
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Speaker 2: we get into the Biden administration, and now it's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: we're not deporting anybody, and anybody just you know, come
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Speaker 2: on in. And it's a time where in our country
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Speaker 2: he's saying you need to get vaccinated, but these people
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Speaker 2: coming across our border don't. Yeah, well I thought there
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Speaker 2: was a health issue you're concerned about. We see fentanyl
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Speaker 2: coming across our border, you know, just flowing in here,
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Speaker 2: cartel violence increasing. China is colonizing Latin America. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: this is a problem for us. And we see all
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Speaker 2: these things happening. And so now you have a president
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Speaker 2: and an administration that wants to do something about it,
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Speaker 2: that wants to say, like, you get out of America.
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Speaker 2: It's not America first, but maybe the America's first.
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the future as I see it, sort
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Speaker 1: of unfolding, intentional, organized or otherwise. I think the reality
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Speaker 1: is going to be, you know, China is going to
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Speaker 1: dominate their area of the world. They're going to have
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Speaker 1: all of the Philippines, they're going to get the probably
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Speaker 1: with Japan, Taiwan, the whole South China Sea their area
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Speaker 1: of dominance. And you have the Russians moving over dominating
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Speaker 1: most of Europe. NATO countries formerly I'm talking way down
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Speaker 1: the road, and then the United States will basically be
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Speaker 1: in charge of this hemisphere, North and South America. That's
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Speaker 1: our stuff. That'll be the three lines of total control.
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Speaker 1: If we could be so globalist in my future projections.
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Speaker 2: Well that could be. And I will tell you though,
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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in the end of
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Speaker 2: Pacific when Intelligence Committee, and that was my region, if
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Speaker 2: you will sure and like Vietnam doesn't want that, Oh no, no,
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Speaker 2: I'm not suggest Philippines don't walk.
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Speaker 1: This is a desired outcome. That's just sort of the
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Speaker 1: way I see things shaken out. Right. Now, we'll bring
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Speaker 1: back when Congressman former Congressman Winstrip to talk more about this,
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Speaker 1: and we'll get a little more details about NATO, because
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Speaker 1: you know, going to this break here, I think Marco
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Speaker 1: Rubio did a phenomenal job explaining why no, we're not
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Speaker 1: breaking up NATO the other day when he was testifying
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomis is about Kersey Morning Show hosting Citizen, former
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Speaker 1: Congress and Brad Winsroup and I always enjoy he comes
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Speaker 1: into study to talk about these very important issues. Now,
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Speaker 1: moving back over to NATO, I understand your Monroe Docrine point.
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Speaker 1: In yes, protecting our hemisphere is probably a really good
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Speaker 1: idea considering it is our backyard. But moving over post
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Speaker 1: World War Two, NATO's form, we rebuild the entire European
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Speaker 1: you know, the eastern or Western Europe. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: Soviet Union busy parson up Eastern Europe, but moving away
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Speaker 1: from that, we ultimately become the police force of the
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Speaker 1: entire block for the for Western civilization, Western civilization in Europe,
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Speaker 1: they really effectively have no military strength, not that they had,
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Speaker 1: Like we can make fun of the French going into
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Speaker 1: World War Two, they didn't have any military strength either then,
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Speaker 1: but maybe they could have learned a lesson from that.
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Speaker 1: But no, we took over, and we have on our
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Speaker 1: own dime, been paying to protect them, to operate in
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Speaker 1: their area, their neighborhood as their police force for well
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Speaker 1: since nineteen forty five. In essence, what good moving away
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Speaker 1: to we're all friends. First off, I don't think we
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Speaker 1: see eye to eye politically anymore, there are a bunch
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Speaker 1: of socialist countries in large parts, so I'm not but
18:14
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not socialist yet, and so supporting and
18:18
Speaker 1: defending political structures and concepts like that shouldn't be in
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Speaker 1: our interest. But it has been. Well, at least trade
18:25
Speaker 1: with them. That's good. I like that. But part of
18:30
Speaker 1: being in NATO is the benefit of the mutual defense
18:33
Speaker 1: agreement that you get. So if you pick on us globe,
18:36
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the full wrath of all the NATO countries.
18:40
Speaker 1: And if you step back and look at these situation,
18:43
Speaker 1: the other side could like, Okay, if we're gonna pick
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Speaker 1: on the United States, the only wrath we're gonna face
18:49
Speaker 1: is the United States. The rest of them are toothless.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to pick on most of Europe because
18:54
Speaker 2: they're not prepared to Joe Witt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the ones screaming about helping Ukraine. Hey, United States,
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Speaker 1: help you. The United States? Come on, Slenski needs you. Hey,
19:03
Speaker 1: you know, well what about you guys, Well we can't
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Speaker 1: because we can't even defend ourselves. Lad try to fight
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Speaker 1: off the Russians in our backyard. I mean, can you
19:12
Speaker 1: make up a more absurd scenario.
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Speaker 2: So doesn't it make sense what this administration has been
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Speaker 2: trying to do in his first term and in Trump's
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Speaker 2: second term is we're trying to make you stronger so
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Speaker 2: you don't have to sit there and say please America
19:27
Speaker 2: and then talk bad about us all the other times. Yeah,
19:31
Speaker 2: so I think it's going well. And you you were
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Speaker 2: mentioning an offline about Rubio.
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Speaker 1: And he explain over and over and over again in
19:41
Speaker 1: different words, of course, exactly what I just pointed out.
19:44
Speaker 1: We need them to be strong. That way, it makes
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Speaker 1: them a better partner for us when we're trying to
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Speaker 1: defend problems in the globe that probably affect NATO countries
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Speaker 1: as much as they affect us.
19:57
Speaker 2: Yes, China dominating in areas of around the world is
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Speaker 2: not good for Europe either. It's not right and you
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Speaker 2: become dependent on things, just as we are on China
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Speaker 2: for for our drugs and things like that. We've got
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Speaker 2: to turn this ship around. But also they're they're basically
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Speaker 2: now trying to colonize and befriend I mean, Maduro was
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Speaker 2: in bed with Russia, China, Iran, you know, all the adversaries,
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Speaker 2: all the agitators of the world, and then of course
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Speaker 2: we have our own agitators within our own country that
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Speaker 2: we're trying to deal with as well. And it really
20:33
Speaker 2: is a double edged sword for us right now when
20:35
Speaker 2: you see what's going on in parts of our country,
20:38
Speaker 2: because really, if you if you look at what's going on,
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Speaker 2: what Ice is trying to do. Okay, we can have
20:43
Speaker 2: the conversation about tactics, and this morning, I don't really
20:47
Speaker 2: want to talk about the shootings per se. I'm not
20:49
Speaker 2: I'm not brushing it aside, but that's that's for another time.
20:54
Speaker 2: Perhaps we have that conversation. But first of all, if
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Speaker 2: you're not out disrespecting the law, probably isn't going to happen.
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Speaker 2: And that part never really gets mentioned unfortunately through our media.
21:07
Speaker 1: It's the FAFO kind of concept that's going on. I mean,
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Speaker 1: who among us sane, clear thinking people who had parents
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Speaker 1: that brought him up with the appropriate sense of logic
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Speaker 1: and reason. You don't mess around with a cop trying
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Speaker 1: to do his job. You might hate that he's doing
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Speaker 1: his job, but you don't mess around with him because
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed under the law to mess around with
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Speaker 1: them enforcing the laws.
21:29
Speaker 2: But the situation we have today still comes down to
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Speaker 2: the policies of we're okay with anybody coming into this
21:36
Speaker 2: country and then sanctuary cities. It's the policies of the
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Speaker 2: sanctuary cities that have led to this problem. If you
21:44
Speaker 2: go into areas where ice is gone in Texas or whatever,
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Speaker 2: and you have cooperation from local law enforcements, you don't
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Speaker 2: see these problems happening. And I'm not faulting the local
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Speaker 2: law enforcement if they are told to stand down, but
22:02
Speaker 2: you probably have the follow up. You probably have more
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Speaker 2: control of a crowd for a Vikings football game than
22:09
Speaker 2: you do for what's going on with these demonstrations, which
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Speaker 2: protesting is legal, but you can't impede the officers doing
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Speaker 2: their job well.
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Speaker 1: And of course the security of football game would enjoy wide,
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Speaker 1: widespread support because people want to feel safe there. You know,
22:24
Speaker 1: these elected officials then get up and scream and encourage
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Speaker 1: more of the behavior that leads to these interactions that
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Speaker 1: can sadly result in someone dying. They want them out
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Speaker 1: in the street, They want them to interfere with law enforcement.
22:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so you have the mayor fry. Yeah,
22:43
Speaker 2: we are not going to enforce federal law well, they don't.
22:46
Speaker 2: Guess what you're not supposed to. You're not authorized to
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Speaker 2: enforce federal law.
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Speaker 1: Just enforce the local law.
22:52
Speaker 2: So you say that, and it appeals to your people,
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Speaker 2: your grassroots. I guess the agitators, we're not going to
22:58
Speaker 2: enforce federal law. Guess what you're not authorized to. Well,
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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's really asking them to. All they're
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Speaker 2: asking is that listen. You know, an ICE agent is
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Speaker 2: a US citizen. An ICE agent has the freedom to
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Speaker 2: travel and accordance with their job. They might be traveling
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Speaker 2: to your neighborhood. Treat them like you would one of
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Speaker 2: your fellow Minnesotans because they do. They are subject to
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Speaker 2: the same rights and protections. In other words, protect them
23:19
Speaker 2: when they're having frozen water bottles thrown at them, Arrest
23:23
Speaker 2: the people who are committing demonstrably state level crimes. Enforce
23:27
Speaker 2: your local laws, and protect the citizens, which include ICE.
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Speaker 2: That's all we're asking. We're not saying enforce the border laws.
23:33
Speaker 2: We're not saying enforcing immigration laws. We're just saying, do
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Speaker 2: your damn job well luquially, and let me bring it local.
23:38
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I had a group of women
23:41
Speaker 2: come to the office one time, very upset, you know,
23:44
Speaker 2: about deporting people and this and that. And this was
23:46
Speaker 2: a while back, and it was during Trump's first term.
23:51
Speaker 2: I said, well, see, you don't have the other side
23:53
Speaker 2: of it coming to talk to you. You know, you
23:56
Speaker 2: don't have the mother from Batavia who's sixteen year old
24:00
Speaker 2: daughter was raped by their neighbor who they thought was
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Speaker 2: here legally but was not. She was beaten, true story,
24:08
Speaker 2: she was beaten and raped. Yeah, and you know you
24:11
Speaker 2: don't you don't have them coming to you, right and
24:14
Speaker 2: hear that story and you.
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Speaker 1: Mainstream Meatia is not inclined to follow the narrative that
24:19
Speaker 1: you and I see very clearly. Brad.
24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so just think if Ice had gotten to
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Speaker 2: him ten years ago, that never would have happened.
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Speaker 1: And then Brother five seven thirty eight will continue with
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Speaker 1: former Congressman Citizen brad Winstrip in studio here at Crecy
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Speaker 1: the Talk Station. Brian Thomas with Citizen brad Winstrip, former congressman,
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Speaker 1: going through the issues and Kay, we you and I
24:42
Speaker 1: were talking off air about you know, what are the
24:43
Speaker 1: motivations for the Democrats? Is you know these the illegal
24:46
Speaker 1: immigrant population is taken into account in the census, ergo,
24:51
Speaker 1: the more people you have living. This is obviously stating
24:54
Speaker 1: the obvious. I'm trying not to the man's plane. But
24:56
Speaker 1: you can increase the number of people in your neighborhood,
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Speaker 1: you may very well get it more a congressional seat.
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Speaker 1: So population matters. Now, the sad thing reality is it
25:04
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out real well for California because for every
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Speaker 1: illegal immigrant that now lives there, apparently three actual working
25:10
Speaker 1: people have left the state and moved to Florida or Texas.
25:13
Speaker 1: But that's the idea. Now this goes to what this
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Speaker 1: are you a citizen question on the census, because ultimately
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Speaker 1: the position of the Trump administration is we're only going
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Speaker 1: to count citizens for the purpose of calculating congressional seats.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be certainly interested in knowing how many people
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Speaker 2: are counted in the census as living here that are
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Speaker 2: not citizens, right, and let's represent our citizens. I mean,
25:42
Speaker 2: you can give non citizens due process in our system,
25:44
Speaker 2: that's fine, of course, but you know, when it comes
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Speaker 2: to your representative, it should be citizens.
25:50
Speaker 1: Well, I can hear an argument from the other side saying, well,
25:53
Speaker 1: that's a violation of Fifth Amendment because if you force
25:55
Speaker 1: them to admit that they're not a citizen and they're
25:57
Speaker 1: not in here legally, then there you have an admission.
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Speaker 2: Well that that seems like you're really stretching things.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find all the avenues of arguments. The
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Speaker 1: argument has time and time again often repeated, Well, even
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Speaker 1: though they're illegally here or not here, as lawful citizens,
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Speaker 1: they still live in the community. They are someone over
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Speaker 1: whom this representative has control and power to influence their lives.
26:24
Speaker 1: So even if they can't vote for them, they are
26:27
Speaker 1: subject to the representation of that particular individual. Ergo, you
26:30
Speaker 1: have to include them. Yeah, well, the priority should be
26:33
Speaker 1: the citizens. Let's face I'm not arguing against that. We
26:35
Speaker 1: the people of.
26:36
Speaker 2: The United States of America, right, that should be the priority.
26:40
Speaker 2: But you know, we we see this, this violence, that's
26:44
Speaker 2: it's now out there, the aggressive behavior, and to many people,
26:48
Speaker 2: they feel justified.
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Speaker 1: We do.
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Speaker 2: They do not feel that they are doing anything wrong,
26:53
Speaker 2: and that's the real problem.
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Speaker 1: And you know, but does that righteous indignation then beyond
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Speaker 1: the argument we talked about earlier, that it's nothing more
27:04
Speaker 1: than evil Orange man that they're righteously indignant about, not
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Speaker 1: the underlying subject matter mind you, it's just that it's
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Speaker 1: on his watch. This is happening. Ergo, we got to
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Speaker 1: go out in the streets and scream about it and
27:15
Speaker 1: bother everybody.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a huge part of it. It's just
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Speaker 2: no matter what he says, they're gonna say, I know,
27:21
Speaker 2: I'm against it, just like he nailed him at the
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Speaker 2: Stay of the Union when he said, you won't applaud
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Speaker 2: anything today and they didn't.
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Speaker 1: But well, I'll tell you what for you to that
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Speaker 1: next pointletes boss, we got one more opportunity here for
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Speaker 1: obsessing Brad Windsor seven forty five right now, if you
27:36
Speaker 1: have k City Talk station, you and what you do.
27:40
Speaker 1: Back to citizen Brad Weinstrup, what have we got to
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Speaker 1: clean up here? What haven't we touched upon that you
27:44
Speaker 1: want to get out of your system today here on
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Speaker 1: the Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Since we are in Minnesota, our conversation is in Minnesota.
27:52
Speaker 2: We can't ignore all the fraud that has taken place
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Speaker 2: within that state.
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Speaker 1: This is tip of the iceberg kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: I'm afraid it is. I mean, there's so many things
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Speaker 2: and that's Minnesota. You know, people are really good at
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Speaker 2: fraud and in fraud against our government and stealing money.
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Speaker 2: And we saw it, oh, COVID tremendously. You know how
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Speaker 2: many millions going out the door with fake unemployment claims
28:19
Speaker 2: and everything else.
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Speaker 1: But but Brad, according to our governor here in the
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Speaker 1: state of how that, well, you know, with any government program,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have fraud and abuse and ways. It's just
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Speaker 1: the cost of having a government program. As if to
28:31
Speaker 1: say it's not worth bothering because there's no way you
28:33
Speaker 1: can get rid of all of it, you shouldn't even try.
28:36
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I got two words for him.
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Speaker 1: It ain't happy birthday on that point. Well, that's like.
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Speaker 2: Taking the attitude that if you've shoplifted less than nine
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars except matter and you know you, it just
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Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. We got to raise the level
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Speaker 2: of expectations of people.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, And let's focus the attention where it's deserved most.
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Speaker 1: Let's raise the expectations of our Let's raise our collective
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Speaker 1: expectations of what we want from our elected officials. Let's
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Speaker 1: make it a priority Job one when introducing any legislation,
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Speaker 1: the number one goal is to put as many impediments
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Speaker 1: and stops from someone being able to build the system
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Speaker 1: and then build a legislation after you've done that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we want to accomplish this, like we want to roll
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Speaker 1: out paycheck protection loan or something like that. Okay, we'll
29:23
Speaker 1: make it virtually impossible for someone to get some money
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Speaker 1: out of the program because they're going to rip you off.
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Speaker 1: But you've actually made it easy to do the way
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Speaker 1: you wrote the legislation. Well, when we were not in
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Speaker 1: control and we were going that's just one illustrations. I'm
29:37
Speaker 1: not going this is a broad brush over all politicians.
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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean, well, I'm going to that point though,
29:44
Speaker 2: when we were to make things worse, you know, when
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Speaker 2: uh Democrats were in control and it was COVID legislation
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Speaker 2: and you're doing all this stuff for unemployment, the criteria
29:55
Speaker 2: was to self attest. Yeah, and we fought that and
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Speaker 2: we called for votes on that, and they voted us
30:01
Speaker 2: down that you didn't have to identify or proved that
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Speaker 2: you were unemployed in any way, shape or form, because
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Speaker 2: they wanted to get that money out the door as
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Speaker 2: fast as they could and a lot of it was
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Speaker 2: going to Ethiopia and all these others.
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Speaker 1: Going right back into their own pockets. Via these different
30:18
Speaker 1: organizations that are set up to help with COVID. Really,
30:21
Speaker 1: how'd you end up with a pile of money from
30:23
Speaker 1: some political action committee that received money in a donation
30:25
Speaker 1: from that help the COVID problem organization? This is I
30:30
Speaker 1: think it was built there. A lot of those programs
30:32
Speaker 1: were built with nefarious intent by allowing them to steal
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Speaker 1: from you and I, the American tax payer.
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Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to that, when it comes to
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Speaker 2: social media, buyer, beware, come on people across the country.
30:46
Speaker 2: You know, get your facts, you know who you're talking to,
30:48
Speaker 2: know what's real, know what's not. You're going to have
30:51
Speaker 2: to make some effort to do it. But don't just
30:53
Speaker 2: sit around and go oh okay, oh okay, that that
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Speaker 2: isn't going to help us as a country.
30:59
Speaker 1: No, it isn't. And you know is you know I
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Speaker 1: always express tax dollars, the income tax dollars as a
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Speaker 1: form of labor. We worked for that. So they are
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Speaker 1: stealing our labor. We are slaves to the government, and
31:09
Speaker 1: so far, whatever percentage of money they want to take
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Speaker 1: out of our paycheck, we must work for the government.
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Speaker 1: I call that slavery personally, because I have no choice.
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Speaker 1: But if they're going to take that money and I'm
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Speaker 1: forced to work for the stewards of that money, then
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Speaker 1: they damn well better have a fiduciary obligation over how
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Speaker 1: that money is spent, and if a fiduciary obligation, to
31:27
Speaker 1: make sure that the fraud is avoided, or they claw
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Speaker 1: back the money that has been fraudulently stolen or that
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Speaker 1: has been fraudulently taken from us.
31:35
Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 1: My blood pressure gets up on this one. Man.
31:39
Speaker 2: If not providing services for the common good, it comes
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Speaker 2: into question.
31:44
Speaker 1: And it's legal. Theft does apply to any political stripe.
31:49
Speaker 1: It should I know. If you're a Democrat out there,
31:51
Speaker 1: oh well, I'm just well, shit, we need to go up.
31:54
Speaker 1: Why not? You're the one that worked for the money.
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Speaker 1: Shouldn't you expect the money to be spent properly as well?
31:59
Speaker 1: Do you Democrat leftists want your money being spent on
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Speaker 1: studying shrimp on treadmill in Thailand? I mean, does that
32:06
Speaker 1: make any sense to anybody? Hell no, it shouldn't. Not
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Speaker 1: a bit. Not a bit got me all riled up. Well,
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Speaker 1: some days I just need a vehicle to just scream.
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Speaker 2: Well, doesn't it feel good? Oh?
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Speaker 1: It feels great, all right, it's on a Friday.
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Speaker 2: Didn't change anything yet, I know.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just waiting for someone to just do
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Speaker 1: an adequate explanation of how and under what circumstances you
32:28
Speaker 1: can defend that from happening, because that's it really is,
32:31
Speaker 1: literally the Democrat Party that is defending all of this.
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Speaker 2: Well, Brian, if you just look and I Jon Tree,
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Speaker 2: it's online. Go look at Fauci's transcribed interview during the
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Speaker 2: COVID and he talks about the grants that go through
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Speaker 2: NIH which is your money, and he said, and he says,
32:48
Speaker 2: I just signed them. That's my job is just to
32:51
Speaker 2: sign them. There's some advisory group that looks them over first,
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Speaker 2: and once they approve him, I just sign him.
32:58
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, what's the group made up of politically
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Speaker 1: striped people?
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Speaker 2: And at one point he even said, hey, I get
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Speaker 2: billions of dollars in grants coming through all the time.
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Speaker 1: I can't know what's in them. Well, somebody needs to.
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Speaker 2: The American people need to and they're finding out and
33:14
Speaker 2: so like right now, I get a lot of people,
33:16
Speaker 2: you know, and back then they so we can't cut
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Speaker 2: off research dollars. These things are too important. I said,
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Speaker 2: you can't as a member of Congress see that process
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Speaker 2: and see that system and just say it's okay, let
33:28
Speaker 2: it keep rolling. We got we got to take a
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Speaker 2: look inside, break it up, and be more methodical.
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Speaker 1: That's why they're going after the fraud in Minnesota. That's
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Speaker 1: why they should be going after the fraud in here
33:38
Speaker 1: in our area. Maybe Springfield's place of fraud. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: But if there's fraud, I don't care who committed it.
33:44
Speaker 1: Let's go after them. Let's prosecute them the full system of
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Speaker 1: the law, and that's clawback every single dollar that's available
33:49
Speaker 1: to clawback and learn a lesson from how they got
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Speaker 1: to steal from us in the first place. Citizen and
33:54
Speaker 1: former congress and Brad Webster. I but I truly appreciate
33:56
Speaker 1: you coming in and talk with my listeners of me today.
33:58
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure having you. Thank you, Brian. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity. Best to health with you and your
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Speaker 1: family and love your better half. Seven six. Coming up
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Speaker 1: next after the top of the interneon is former mayoral
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Speaker 1: candidate Corey Bowman. He's got a new podcast, but he
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Speaker 1: also has uh well, some talk about some money in
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Speaker 1: the City is sitting on Jack wins Or, editor in
34:15
Speaker 1: chief of the Isile Press Network. He'll join the program
34:16
Speaker 1: at eight thirty. I'll be right back.
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