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Professor Scott Galloway and the Future of Young Men · Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Zach Braf here. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: open the show and talk about merch because Donald and
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: I always forget to talk about merch. And Christmas is
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  Speaker 1: coming up, and you know what your loved ones want,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: and you know what you want more than anything really
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  Speaker 1: is some good old fake doctors, real friends, merch. Most
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  Speaker 1: appropriately for Christmas, there's a Christmas ornament of me riding
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  Speaker 1: Donald Eagle style, not any other style, me riding Donald.
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  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful ornament. And I'm gonna tell you about
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  Speaker 1: everything else on here real quick. What you do is
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  Speaker 1: you go to Cottonbureau dot com and then just search
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  Speaker 1: for fake doctors cottonbureau dot com and then search for
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  Speaker 1: fake doctors. There's wrapping paper with our faces on it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a beach towel. There's a washcloth because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we like to talk about washcloths. There's three different T shirts.
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  Speaker 1: There's a pop socket for your phone of me eagling Donald. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: This is really cool. For those of you who have
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  Speaker 1: to wear a badge to work, particularly in the medical profession,
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: there's a badge holder with our faces on it that
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  Speaker 1: has one of those pull out things for when you
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  Speaker 1: have to swipe your badge on things. I want one
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  Speaker 1: of those, and I don't even have a place to
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  Speaker 1: wear a badge. I see someone made a Queen Joel
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  Speaker 1: T shirt. I don't even know if that's through us
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  Speaker 1: or what, but ah this I see. There's some like
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  Speaker 1: after marketing looking ones things, meaning we didn't make them.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, there's cool stuff on you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Also, most importantly, there's a few of our legendary onesies left,
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  Speaker 1: but they're only small and medium. If you happen to
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  Speaker 1: be a smaller medium human being, you could get one
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  Speaker 1: of those limited edition onesies we made, which are pretty hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Go check out the store. There's cool stuff
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  Speaker 1: for your Christmas gift giving season, and Hanukah and Kwanza
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  Speaker 1: and any other holiday where you give presents. Okay, here's
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  Speaker 1: the show. This is I listen, audience. I successfully got
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  Speaker 1: Donald of Vegas and this voice that I have as
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  Speaker 1: a result of that experience. I wish I had this
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  Speaker 1: voice all the time. Actually, no, you don't, Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I could. I just feel like i'd be more effective
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  Speaker 1: in my life.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that you'd be as successful if you
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  Speaker 3: spoke like this all the time, Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look at James old Jones. He did just film.
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  Speaker 2: Sound like James O. Jones. You sound like somebody you's
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  Speaker 2: sick right now?
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  Speaker 1: No, don and I did a lot of singing in
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: It was like carpool karaoke. The thing is when you
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  Speaker 3: hang out with someone like Andrew Watt, you just you
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  Speaker 3: know who is amazing, an amazing musician and can play
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  Speaker 3: any instrument.
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  Speaker 1: He brought his little parlor guitar, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: those little small guitars like that, like a travel guitar,
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  Speaker 1: and anything you start singing, he just can play instantly.
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  Speaker 1: And so it was like it was like a car.
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  Speaker 1: It was karaoke all the time.
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  Speaker 3: And he could play it in any key also, so
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  Speaker 3: like if you start in one key, he'll be like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, hold up one second, all right, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretty impressive, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Donald, you don't sing a lot. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I sing, and I wish you sing quite a bit. Actually, well,
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  Speaker 1: our podcast viewers know you sing. But for example we
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  Speaker 1: were in Andrew Watt. For those of you who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: super mega producer. He was Producer of the Year Rock
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  Speaker 1: two years in a row and he's he's an insane guitarist.
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  Speaker 1: He uh produced the new Lady Gaga album that's coming
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  Speaker 1: out Joelle. Anyway, so he when he came with us
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  Speaker 1: and Bill Lawrence and Charlotte's daughter who's dating Andrew that's
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  Speaker 1: and our friend Randall, and we were just had so
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  Speaker 1: much fun and we were just singing and like Donald
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  Speaker 1: and Andrews playing together was so fun.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun I had. I had
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  Speaker 2: a really good time in Vegas. You know this is guys,
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  Speaker 2: you went here. Well, there's sort of a lesson.
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  Speaker 3: This motherfucker said, dude, it's gonna be epic, and everyone
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  Speaker 3: he said that too, was like, yeah, okay, sure it'll
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  Speaker 3: be in some and we'll have fun.
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  Speaker 2: This turned out to be a fucking epic adventure.
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  Speaker 1: We soon, brother, if I promise epic, if.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking epic all the way from the plane ride to
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  Speaker 3: the plane ride back. It was epic, so much so
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  Speaker 3: that I'm trying to fight staying awake on the plane
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  Speaker 3: back just so we could have conversation still about the trip.
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  Speaker 1: I feel I still feel tired today. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I slept so long. But I learned to play craps
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  Speaker 1: because we never really usually play craps, and we Donald
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  Speaker 1: and I.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, let's get to the let's get you got.
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  Speaker 1: To say Bill, who's so cocky and like his whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: is like, don't worry, guys, everything always goes my way,
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  Speaker 1: which is talking about manifestation. It's kind of accurate. He
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  Speaker 1: manifests that he lives that, and shit usually just goes
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  Speaker 1: his way. So the dice gets a craps and these
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  Speaker 1: guys are teaching me how to play craps. Andrew knows
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing, and Donald knows what he's doing, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm learning how I play craps for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's time. Bill's turned to roll and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry guys, things always goes my wife. Now. Now
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  Speaker 1: hold on.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, when someone says that that's the ultimate
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  Speaker 3: jinx right before craps, right, so we're like, all right, fine,
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  Speaker 3: we put money down and he rolls a seven right away. Boom,
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  Speaker 3: We're paid. So we're like, all right, bet, put a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more down. He rolls another seven, he rolled seven,
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  Speaker 3: and eleven. He rolled a seven or eleven out the
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  Speaker 3: gate like five or six times in a row, so
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  Speaker 3: much so that the fucking pit boss now comes to
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  Speaker 3: the table and he is paying attention to everything that
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  Speaker 3: Bill is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and they're asking us if we have those
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  Speaker 1: players cards because if you start winning two months, they're like,
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  Speaker 1: are you in the system?
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  Speaker 2: Like how do I do? I know you? And so
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  Speaker 2: he's throwing and finally he hits a number.
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  Speaker 3: He hits eight, right, and so now we got to
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  Speaker 3: put all of our money up on the board and
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  Speaker 3: all of that stuff to get.
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  Speaker 2: And he proceeds to hit every.
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  Speaker 3: Number except for seven as he's rolling, and then finally
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  Speaker 3: he for.
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  Speaker 2: Like a half for like a not for a half hour.
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  Speaker 3: For finally he goes, you know what, let me just
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  Speaker 3: roll the fucking eight. Let me just roll a hard eight.
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  Speaker 3: And we all have money on a hard eight. He
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  Speaker 3: rolls it.
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  Speaker 2: Not only he calls it, he does it.
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  Speaker 3: And holy shit, everybody got paid and we're not playing
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  Speaker 3: with little money and we're playing with money that makes
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  Speaker 3: you sweat, you know what I mean, you sweat.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Bill was so coming, he had like
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  Speaker 1: this superstition that if he started cheering and going crazy
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  Speaker 1: with us, like he would fall out of it. So
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  Speaker 1: every time he he he hit the number. Everyone would
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  Speaker 1: start screaming and he would just stay totally calm, like
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't even move. He was just like, I were like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you celebrating. He's like, just just just let
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  Speaker 1: me be.
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  Speaker 2: Let me, let me.
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  Speaker 4: He's a leader, just let me be.
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  Speaker 2: And so fine.
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  Speaker 3: So we get to it for like a half an hour.
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  Speaker 3: So he hits it and then he rolls some more.
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  Speaker 3: He hits it again, then he rolls some more and
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  Speaker 3: he hits it again, and we're like, holy shit. Finally
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  Speaker 3: he's like now he He's like, guys, it's coming to
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  Speaker 3: an end soon, so let's not go too crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We're like, dude, this ship is.
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  Speaker 3: When he said that, immediately he rolls the seven, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, all right.
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  Speaker 1: He knew it was fun.
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  Speaker 5: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: We can ask change your mind, Zach.
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  Speaker 2: What did you do Togein? You didn't do anything. I
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  Speaker 2: don't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: My wife was like, he's going with She was like,
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  Speaker 3: he's going with Bill. Bill is going and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: so she was like, if this motherfucker creates a deal
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  Speaker 3: for Scrubs with Bill and you're not there, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I should go, and she was like no, hold only finished.
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  Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like, this will never happen, right,
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  Speaker 3: this will never this will never a deal without me,
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  Speaker 3: there will never happen anyway.
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  Speaker 1: In your mind, we're going to negotioot you out of
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  Speaker 1: her mind like to do her I'd like to do scrubs,
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  Speaker 1: but without Donald.
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  Speaker 2: That was her mind.
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  Speaker 3: Her mind was like, We're gonna do scrubs without Donald.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, babe, that's not going to have
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  Speaker 3: and she said, well, you need to go just to
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  Speaker 3: make sure. I said, babe, how are you so untrusting?
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  Speaker 3: That's what she said.
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  Speaker 4: Far I said.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I didn't hear this story, because I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was that you finally came round to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that I had put a fun group together and you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be there, and your wife said, you go, babe,
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  Speaker 1: you go have fun with your friends.
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  Speaker 3: I was my wife was when she gave me the
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  Speaker 3: green light to go. I was like, for one night,
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  Speaker 3: are you sure? She's like, you need to go to Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: And then all of the worry went off of my
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  Speaker 3: you know, fell off of my shoulders, like all of
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  Speaker 3: the weight fell off my shoulders. Because going with my
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: wife is a different story. She wouldn't have had fun
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  Speaker 3: at some of the things we did, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. But she would have had fun at the
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  Speaker 3: Crabs table. So when she was.
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  Speaker 2: When I didn't have to worry about that anymore, I
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  Speaker 2: was good to go.
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  Speaker 1: Then we went because we were at the Wind and
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: the Chainsmokers were playing at this uh at the venue.
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  Speaker 1: And Andrew's of course friends with the.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: Friends with everybody. They lived with him at one point,
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: well one of them lived with him.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, so he's like, you, guys, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you'd normally go to the club when we wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: at this age, but he's like, you will be in
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  Speaker 1: the DJ, but you got to experience this. It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: on a Saturday night at this club. So we went,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the whole thing, security walking us all
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  Speaker 1: with them.
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  Speaker 3: Before we get there, we got to talk about the
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: suite that they had to they had, they had they
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: had the remember when they when they win all of
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: that money and then they get the sweet.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: No, not the exact one, we're saying one that so
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  Speaker 1: you know that caliber.
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  Speaker 2: And so we get there.
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  Speaker 1: The kind of sweet you get if you're the performer
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: at the Wind, And so.
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  Speaker 3: We get there and they're like, come down with us,
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  Speaker 3: and we go down and we hit the club and
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  Speaker 3: the club's outside, and I'm like, oh, this is cool.
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  Speaker 2: They got an outdoor club.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: So we get to the DJ booth and the DJ
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  Speaker 3: booth their back is to the outside club, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: this is the weirdest thing.
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  Speaker 2: Ever, how are you going to DJ?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm looking in this mirror also right, and i
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  Speaker 3: don't see myself in the mirror, and I'm like, this
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  Speaker 3: is the weirdest shit I've ever seen in my life?
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: Am I a vampire? No, the mirror wasn't the fucking outside.
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  Speaker 3: It was the inside of the club, which was jam
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: packed all the way to the wall.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what the djo.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: It's three sixty. It's three sixty around. Half is outside,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: half is inside. That's so cool. And it was crazy,
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And the funny thing was Donald was like
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  Speaker 1: was the one who's like, I don't want to know
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  Speaker 1: the club. I'm like, dude, just experience being in the
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  Speaker 1: DJ booth. Leave after fifteen minutes if you don't want
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: it'll be crazy. So we go. This motherfucker was up
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  Speaker 1: in the front, like fucking dancing or crazy.
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: I had outer body experiences while listening to I guess
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: it's dub step, dubstep or R what is it? R?
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: What the fuck is this? Ship?
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: All I know is actually was all and I was like,
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, leave this show. I know what
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: is this dub step?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you call it, Daniel, you would know,
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  Speaker 1: but it was intense. I mean, they're probably playing some
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: steps of drama bass. How's this? Donald?
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  Speaker 6: What's this Daniels rash? Probably house music didn't sound like
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  Speaker 6: I remember it sounds like it sounds like it sounds
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  Speaker 6: like a song by Shiba Son. But the light show
• 11:25
  Speaker 6: was crazy. The light show was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: The funniest part was we were in the DJ both
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  Speaker 1: right and they So there's all these women there that
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: want to be close to the to the the guys. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So at first, when we first got there, Donald Iron
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Front were talking to them, It's like so cool. Little
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: by a little as as women started to get more aggressive,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I guess aggressive aggressive or well, I'm sure some shots
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  Speaker 1: at tequila. They were like elbowing me and Donald the
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  Speaker 1: fuck out of their way, like let us get close
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  Speaker 1: to these dudes. And I eventually gave up and I
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: was like I was like, I'm gonna go to the
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: back where there's a little bit of room because I'm
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: getting like elbows thrown. What I mean, because these girls
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: need their they need their fucking they need they need
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  Speaker 1: their their influencer videos.
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  Speaker 3: I turned to this girl and I said to her,
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  Speaker 3: I said, and now, Lux, if I elbowed you the
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  Speaker 3: way you just elbowed me, he might be on the
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  Speaker 3: floor and you would not be very happy about it.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Will you please stop elbowing? And she goes, oh my god,
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. She brings a dude over and I
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: look at the dude like, dude, I promise you. You
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: don't want this right and he backs off. And so
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: at first she's chill and I'm like, all right, we're good.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: And then still boom boom, and I was like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, I gotta go back. I gotta leave because I'm.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: About to think you up.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I waved to Donald. I waved to Donald. I'm like, dude,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: you can't keep It was turned into like a wrestling match.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, just come back. At one point I was,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: and they had that dry I used to.
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  Speaker 2: Goesh into everybody's faces.
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  Speaker 1: Then we had one friend, we had one friend that
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: he he was over served, and we realized we had
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: to get him out of there. So we had we
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: realized it was time to go because he was but
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was the MVP of the of the whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: He was hilarious. Then then we once we once we
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: once we, uh, what do you guys? Pulled him out
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  Speaker 1: of there. He was double fisting on the way out.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: We pulled him out of there and brought him back
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  Speaker 1: to the craps table. That was funny.
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  Speaker 4: He was.
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  Speaker 2: His whole thing was like, I don't understand. Are they
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: a band or are they DJs?
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Do they do?
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: Laugh?
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of fun and laughter, As
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: my wife would say, fun and I have some fun
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: and laughter.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: We had a sick Chinese meal at Wind la I
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: believe it's called the restaurant. They told me we should
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: be paid by We should be paid by the wind Joelle.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: We need sponsorship.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love let's because.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Donald and I can Donald and I can talk up
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: of how fun the window not only.
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  Speaker 2: Fun for one night only, it paid really well.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Well, we can't guarantee our listeners that they'll have the
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: luck you got to go with Bill Lauren. We had
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence's Magical Fingers exactly, and I always you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: it's funny. Crabs is more fun than Blackcheck. I think
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: just because Blackchack. I just feel like I always lose.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the whole time. No, you get twenty one
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  Speaker 1: and then you're like so excited.
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  Speaker 2: And the dealer gets twenty one, and the push.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Then the dealer gets twenty one. It just always seems
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: like win.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: The dealer will have. Like if I get a twelve,
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: I usually lose. The dealer gets twelve and gets twenty one.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck is going on here?
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: How is this consistently happening?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I know with this one woman she said, I love Scrubs.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I used to watch it when I was ten.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: We were like, no, She watched it and reruns when
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: she was.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Ten, reruns when she was ten. Oh no, she said,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: y'all do a reboot. We said we might. She goes,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: is the blonde girl coming back? We're like, we'll see,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: we'll see, I'll see. We laughed so hard, right.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not gonna lie. Man. It was it was
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: one for the books. It was one for the books,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: And I appreciated it too, you know, and I needed it,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: you know for you know, for distraction reasons and everything.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've been really really down on not down
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: on myself, but you know, I turned fifty and this
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: ship is like it's a it's a new life experience.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: You try to fight I'm halfway to the grave. You
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: try to fight that thought, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And this was a moment where I just forgot about
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: everything and it felt so good just to forget about
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: everything for a little bit, you know what I mean.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And I had a great time.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I think the lesson is that you should let me
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  Speaker 1: take you on more.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we said we were going to do
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  Speaker 3: it quarterly, so I can't wait for the next one.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Well all right, So if you're wondering why my voice
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: is like that, it's because I was singing.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: And you know, you were screaming because we were winning
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: at Craps. That's why your voice is like.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I was screaming because we were winning at Craps. And
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: also I was doing multiple sing alongs with Andrew Watta
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: on guitar and in the clerb I was going.
• 16:26
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• 16:31
  Speaker 1: It's b D s M, b D s M.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's why our voices heard we did.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: We were listening to bds.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's why our voices. Oh boy, Scott Galloway's here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a very fancy guest. We're so lucky
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to have him. He spits knowledge like nobody I know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: most impressive knowledge too.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I asked Joel Joelle to get him force and he's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a very hard get because everybody wants to have him
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: on their podcast, and he said yes to us. We're
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: very honored. Dane stories.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure we made about a bunch of.
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  Speaker 6: Dogs and nurses and.
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• 17:36
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• 17:36
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say something to you, but Jack
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: has a question locking locked and loaded.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But you seem so even Keel. No matter what, Bro,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: what a thrill. I love it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I love your demeanor, Bro, Thanks man, it's mostly drugs. Okay, Well,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, uh Scott for coming on. I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I I the algorithms have figured out how much I
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: love you because most of my feed is is you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: spinning wisdom all over the place. And I know that
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of requests to be on a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: lot of podcasts. Thank you very honor for having on.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: It's great to be here.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's great to have you, man. I I wanted to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: there's so many questions to ask you. I know we
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: have you for a limited time, but we are we do.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: We do call ourselves fake doctors, real friends. Coming off
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of the show, we do try and talk about mental
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: health and and and we had the Surgeon General on
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: who was talking about awareness.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: It's fantastic, he's incredible.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to start off talking about some in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: area of young men and what they're facing today, the challenges.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: You've spoken beautifully on this before, and I just wanted
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to think, what what how do you think, what what
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: pivots can we make because was sort of talking about
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the crisis. What sort of changes do you think can
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: be made in society to support men's health and well
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: being because it does seem to be a particular crisis
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: with young men today in society.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Well, it's great to be with you, guys, and I
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: appreciate you bringing sunshine or sunlight to the topic. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, but I love data, and the
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: data is just overwhelming, and that is men are three
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: times as likely or excuse me, four times as likely
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to kill themselves. If you're in a Morgan there's five
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: people who have died by suicide. Four of them are men.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: And if it was any other special interest group that
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: was committing them committing suicide at four times the rate.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, So say dying by suicide, we'd move in
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: with programs. But because of the two thousand year head
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: start people who look and smell and feel like me
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: have had. There's just a lack of empathy because people
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: see empathy as a zero sum game, and that is correctly.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: There's a gag reflex. When you start talking about the
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: problems of interfacing, you come across as anti women. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: one of the key things moving to solutions is we
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: have to recognize and empathies not as zero some games.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Civil rights didn't hurt white people, it helped white people.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Gay marriage didn't hurt heteronormative marriage. And we aren't going
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: to have women and the country are not going to
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: flourish if men are floundering. Three times is likely to
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: be addicted twelve times is likely to be incarcerated. We
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: don't have a homeless opioid and suicide problem. We have
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: a male homeless, male opiate and male suicide problem. Men
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: within two years of their divorce become eight times more
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: likely to kill themselves. So there is real there are
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: real issues here. One in five men at the age
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of thirty are living with their parents. One in three
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: men has a girlfriend under the age of thirty two,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and three women under the age of thirty. I think, well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that's mathematically impossible. It's not because women are dating older.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Because women want more economically and emotionally viable men and
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: they're not finding them. How many times have you heard
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I have all these wonderful women in my universe, smart, attractive,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: shit together, but they can't find men. No, they can
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: find men. They just can't find any men they want
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: a date. We're producing the most anxious, insecure, economically and
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: emotionally unviable, obese, anxious generation of men in history, or
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: at least in our country. And you know, we also
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: need to feel okay about celebrating young men. Young men
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: have fought and won the most consequential.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Wars in history.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Young men have built some of the most amazing things
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: in our nation that we're really proud of or outside
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of the nation, whether it's the Panama Canala of the
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Empire state building. It's okay to fall back in love
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: with the notion of a strong young American man. And
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: on the far right they tell men to be cruel
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and course and to be like misogynists. That's not the answer.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And on the far left we tell men the answers,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: act more like a woman. I don't think that's the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: answer either. So a movement to solutions one just biologically,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: young men mature at a slower rate. Literally, their prefrontal
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: cortex is eighteen months behind a woman's. I would say
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: as a father, my role is I'm a prefrontal cortex.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I walk them through decisions like they're supposed to make
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: with their executive functions of their brain. We need to.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I would like to see us red shirt kindergarteners, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: that is boys star at kindergarten at six, girls at five.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: If you have a time to cut you off.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I think they do that already in California in the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: private schools. So girls in knat's right, Yeah, Okay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Well, rich people have this trick. They lie about their
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: son's age and they hold them back. When I grew
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: up in the space race, where everyone thought, oh, the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: key is to produce super talented young men who will
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: beat the Russians, and so everyone was always trying to
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: get me to skip a grade. I showed up at
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: college when I was seventeen, and I was just too
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: immature to handle alcohol and women and the responsibility. Being
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: away from m was a disaster for me. So now
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: everyone is trying to hold their boys back, and you
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: have to show up at a lot of schools with
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: a birth certificate because people are lying about their boys
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: to try and get their all. In all that, the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: youngest boy in a class is more likely to be depressed.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: He's physically smaller, he's more immature, he's more likely.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: To be bullied.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: So people have caught on. I'm saying, let's formalize it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Kindergarten start a six year old for boys, five year
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: old for girls. More men in primary school education. Seventy
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to eighty percent of primary school teachers are women. There
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: are more per capita female fighter pilots than male kindergarten teachers.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: And who is a female teacher going to champion. She's
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: going to champion people who remind herself of her and
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: that's natural. A boy is, on a behavioral adjusted basis,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: twice as likely to be suspended for the exact same
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: behavior as a girl. A black boy five times is
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: likely to be suspended for the exact same infraction. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: think about what we want from our kids in primary school.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Sit still, be organized, be a pleaser. Raise your hand
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: you describe a girl when there's boys only schools, they
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: end up with twice the amount of recess time. They
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: award aggression or more what a call initiation, more physicality.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: So we have an education system that's biased against boys
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: going further in education. If you're a university like mine NYU,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: and you have an endowment over a billion dollars and
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you're not growing your freshman class faster than population, you
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: should lose your tax re status because you're no longer
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: a public servant. You're a hedge fund offering classes. We
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: need a ton more vocational programs. Remember wood shop, autoshop,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: and metal shop.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: All gone disappeared on high school for me because I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: had it in JUNI I had it in elementary school.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, by junior high school. All
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of that was gone.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Because we all knew that guy who was never going
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: to go to college, but he could fix a car,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: he was good with his hands. He was the guy
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: that was they could come over and build the actual treehouse,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: like actually knew how to build it. There used to
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: be an on ramp into an American middle class for
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: that guy, and now it's no longer there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Why did they get rid of it? I mean, is
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this budget cuts? I understand.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I think we became in love with technology and computer science,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: so we replace civics and wood shop with computer science,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: and that's why we have Mark Zuckerberg. But there's been
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: a deemphasizing of kind of those what i'll call more
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: male oriented on ramps into trade, so a lot more
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: vocational program Eleven percent of LinkedIn profiles in the YUKN,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Germany the title is apprentice. It's three percent in the US.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Where do you go? It's as parents. If our kids
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: don't get into college, they failed. Have you been to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: those parties with us like gosh, oh, Bobby dropped out
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: of Rutgers. He's home. Everyone's failed. The family needs to
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: be shamed. Everyone's failed. Two thirds of American kids are
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: not going to get a college, a traditional college, agree
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: some more vocational programming. I think we did need expand
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a child tax credit. I think we need to stop
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: this economic transfer of wealth from young to old. The
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: average seven year old is seventy two percent wealthier than
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: they were forty years ago. The average person under the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: age of forty is twenty four percent less wealthy. Sixty
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: percent of people aged thirty to thirty four forty years
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: ago used to have a kid in their house. Now
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: it's twenty seven percent. Not because people decided they don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: want kids, they can't find someone to mate with, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: they don't have the money.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: So I'm you know, I got a stack of things
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I think we could do. I think most of them
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: should be focused on young people, not on men, because
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be politicized. But I think young people
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: a reinvestment in young people to lift them up. What
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: are the two biggest tax deductions Mortgage interest rate and
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: capital guients who owns homes and socks people my age
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: who makes their money from current income and rents Joelle
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: and yeah, danel So why do I get all the
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: tax brates the incumbents and the wealthy have weaponized the
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: tax code to transfer wealth from young to old, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it's been disproportionately impactful on young men, who, quite frankly,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: we don't like to have an honest conversation around mating.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: If a guy, if a woman is economic, women made
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: socioeconomically horizontally enup men horizontally and down. If a guy's
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: not economically viable, he's not going to form a family,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: he's not going to have romantic relationships. And unfortunately for men,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: they come off the rails without the guardrails of a
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: romantic relationship. They stop showering, they start demonizing people, the
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: more prone to misogynistic content, They don't believe in climate change,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: and someday become really shitty citizens. Whereas when women don't
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: have a relationship, they tend to do a better job
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: of maintaining their social network. They pour some of that
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: love and that energy into their work and into their
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: existing friendships. Men without the prospect of a romantic relationship
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: or quite frankly, sex kind of come off the tracks.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: And it was I think there's a ton of things
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: we could do. I think we fuck this up. We
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: can unfuck it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. What percentage
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of that falls upon this rise of of of social
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: media and the suckerberg of all people just as a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: as an archetype, do do you? Is it correct to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: blame a certain percentage of this on everyone just moving
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to staring at their screens all day?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's been the chaser. It hasn't helped. It's been
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: very hard on girls. I mean, think about Instagram. It's
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: the fakest Instagram.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Professor G, but it's the fakest shit ever.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Nobody's real on that thing.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: You can't find a real thing on that And and
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I fell victim to it early too, where I was like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I don't have enough. We said it on the freaking
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut you off, but we said it
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: on the podcast. I need more followers.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't have enough followers.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I don't have more followers than zech who gives a shit, dude,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: But also you're a you're an adult male. I mean,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: what I assume he's about to say is do you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: know what this is doing to teen and preteen girls? Minds?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It's we at least can call it out and go Okay,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: are you really seriously depressed right now because so and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: so is in Europe on a boat and you're sitting
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: on your couch. We at least can laugh at ourselves.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The young minds are are being so screwed.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: It is correct, but it's a false sense of wealth
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: and it's a false sense of happiness when you watch
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that shit and all these people think I need to
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: do that to be happy, and it's like, no, dude,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: that is not the answer. You're not gonna be happy.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I might be happy on a boat in
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the middle of you know, Central Peig. Yeah, sure, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you're not. That's not gonna That's not gonna make me
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: have a great life because I'm doing that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It's the constant comparison of yourself to somebody.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's two types of porn. I think Instagram is
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: essentially a porn site, And there's two types of porn.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: There's wealth porn where I'm trying to shove my foe
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: oftentimes fake. By the way, anyone who's really wealthy doesn't
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: go on answer to talk about their wealth. You know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: if you're taking pictures of a jet, it means it
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: isn't yours. And right, so they're shoving your success in
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: other people's face, and they're not inspired by it. They
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: just feel worse about themselves. And then there's actual porn,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: and that is the algorithm sexualize young girls. And think
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: about just how fucking perverted Instagram is. I'm going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: use an algorithm to encourage a fifteen year old to
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: dress more and more provocatively such that strange men from
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: around the world and her peers can comment on her looks.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: That is just so wrong and so weird. And then
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the algorithms also love rage. I'm in marketing and we
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: thought from forty five to ninety five, we thought sex sells.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Show an aspirational vision of sexual attractiveness and attach it
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: to a beer product that sells. What we found is
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: there's something that sells more than sex, and that's rage.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Try and get people to start arguing each other, Zach,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: your last movie sucked. Donald, You're not living up to
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: your obligations as a black man. No one would ever
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: say that shit to you in person. But they want
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: you to fight. They want you to start ship posting
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: each other, and the algorithms love that because then it
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: gets more comments, more Nissan ads, more shareholder values. So
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you have these algorithms that are training everyone to be coarse,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: less empathetic, sexualize yourself. If you're a young girl and
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: if you're a young man, you can go down these
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: rabbit holes and maybe you can't find a date. Well,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of there's a bunch of groups on
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: discord and Reddit that will tell you it's women's fault.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: It's not your fault, it's their fault. It's immigrants who
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: are taking your job right. And so in addition to
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: top it all off, and I see this with my
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: son who's fourteen, as his brain is being wired, it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: being wired to have a DOPA bag that he can
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: squeeze whenever he wants right, And I think of our
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: jobs as parents as what I call slopa to try
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: and convince him to get the immense DOPA hit you
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: get when you study hard and you get an A
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: in biology. That's like hugely rewarding to save some money,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: to work, save some money, and then you have a
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: little bit of money to go to college. That felt
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: really good for me when I went to UCLA. That's
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: slow dopa. But unfortunately they have this casino porn site
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: ipick theater slot machine in their pocket at the age
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: of thirteen or fourteen, and just as their brain is
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: being wired, they're learning I need dopa now, I need
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: dope out and I see with my kid, my kid good,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not proud of this. My kid will go into
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: the bathroom of his phone so we can be on
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: TikTok and he won't come out. He'll pretend that he's
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: in there for an hour and he'll scream, I need privacy,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're on TikTok. You're not fooling anybody.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: And then when he gets out of there and we
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: take the phone away, he so badly needs a reaction
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: and more dopa. He starts acting out and being a real,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: really really good this is this is.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, and it's YouTube and it's because we
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: don't have TikTok. So they found YouTube, and now YouTube
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: places TikTok videos right, And I can't get my kids
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to sit down to watch a movie anymore because it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: too long pretty much, you.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: That shows that are like ten minutes. That's about enough
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: time for them to say, Okay, I like that show,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the next.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: What's next? But if a movie it's two.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: And a half hours, they start, they can't make it through.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I want to go do something else I want to do,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? The only way it works
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: is if you take them to the movies and it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: like a second.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: You're so right down. The last weekend, I said, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: just want you guys to watch some movies I loved
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: growing up. So I said, we're gonna watch these two
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: movies this weekend, Breaking Away and Cinema Paradise. So I'm like,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I love these movies and I want you to watch
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: them with me. Kids couldn't make it. They've lasted forty minutes.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: That was it. That's it. They couldn't get through it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling ever too, because you feel like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: as a father or as a parent, I'm failing my kid,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm definitely failing my kid
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: because my kid not only does my kid all of
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: a sudden turn into this monster after we take the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: screens away, you know what I mean. I don't necessarily
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: know how to combat that either, man, because I'm no
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: one that did it to them by giving Scott.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: We're all addicted to our screens. So we get him
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: their screen so we can go back to ours.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Scott. Do you there was this excuse me, movement to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: almost ban TikTok, I assume because it's it's owned by
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the Chinese government or controlled by the Chinese government. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I actually thought that was going to happen for a second.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Not that these companies will self regulate, but do you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: think there's any world where they're more responsible for not
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: allowing people under sixteen to be on them in some way?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: No. We keep hoping that they're better angels A to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: show up and we it just doesn't happen. They're doing
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: their job, We're not doing ours. Their job is to
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: make money.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: And you know, the.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Cigarette guys stood in front of Congress and raised their
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: right hand and said, I don't believe nicotine is addictive.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: When you are paid not to understand something, you'll get
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: really good and not understanding. And so when you're making
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: billions of dollars and having billions of impressions from young
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: people and rage and divisive content, you're going to find
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: reasons to not understand what's actually going on. We've had
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: forty congressional hearings on child safety and social media we've
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: had zero loss past. We have never had an industry
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: this big and this powerful that has no regulation at all.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: There's more regulation in the mic you guys are speaking
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: into than all of social media if there was any.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Twenty four percent studiers came out. Two thirds of kids
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: are on Instagram. Twenty four percent of them technically qualify
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: as addicted. What substance or content would we like twenty
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: four percent of our youth be addicted to and not
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: move in And they weaponize. They go they're very smart.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: They go on meeting and say we're open to regulation,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: and I have children. First off, most of them don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: let their children have smartphones. And two, they have an
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: army of lawyers getting in the way of any regulation.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Amazon has more full time lobbyists living in DC than
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: there are sitting US senators. And it's happening again with AI.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: We hear the hush tones of Sam Altman. He's very
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: concerned about AI and it's potential problems, and then he
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: deploys an army of lobbyists to make sure there's no regulation.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: So these guys are doing their job, and it's mostly guys.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: They're making money, and that's an important part of the
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: capitalist economy so we can have taxes and pay for
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: our navy and pay for food Stamp. They are doing
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: their job, We're not doing ours. In every other industry.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: We have elected people who are supposed to prevent a
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: tragedy the Commons and pass laws. There's no reason any
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: kid should be on social media under the age of sixteen,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: and we ask them to self regulate an age gate.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: We hoping Tim Cook wakes up and decides he should
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: not let anyone have an iPhone until they're sixteen. It's
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: not going to happen.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: We need laws. Do you think it's because I'm sorry,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: rupt do you think it's because of the age of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: of of Congress? Would a younger I mean, I know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I know this. I don't know this is going to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: happen because they all seem to be skewed, so so old.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But they never whenever I watch those hearings, they never
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: seem to know what.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: The physical is, no clue of what's going on.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of that that senator back in the day.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He was like, the Internet is a series of tubes
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and trying to describe the Internet, and I wonder, do
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: you do you think that would help if I mean,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: are they just clueless or are they paid off?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, no doubt, no doubt of the average no doubt.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: The average age of Americans is thirty eight. The average
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: age of our elected representatives is sixty two. Are our
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: top leaders are across between the whing dead and the
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: golden girls? I mean, think about this. Are the Speaker
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: of the House, who's an incredibly impressive woman. When she
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: had a first kid, Castro had just declared martial law
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: and two thirds of households did not have color TVs.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: But she's supposed to understand the challenges facing a single
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: mother in her twenties. She's supposed to understand a young
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: man who's addicted to gambling and now trading crypto on coinbase.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: So I'm not suggesting we can't benefit from older politicians,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: but for God's sakes, it's like, you know, we need
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: more youth.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: But not crazy youth either though, because somebody's youth.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: The youthful politicians get in there and they're so fucking
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: far on one side or so fucking far on the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: other side that they're that they're uh that their ideas
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and their policies.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: As an adult, I can't allow.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Those are the loud ones I think getting getting the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: most attention because they've marshaled these these social media devices,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: like he's saying, rage bait. They know, they know how
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to get the attention. Whereas there is there is a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: world out there where there's some you know, centered centrist
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: young politicians who could help, you know, maybe make Congress.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Not the Golden Girls.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Well, you have the squad, and then you have Marjorie
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Taylor Green and I forget the name. Who's the wrestler, right,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Matt Gate, Matt Gate, not mad He's not a wrestler.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: That guy's that guy's that guy's beer battered, he's not
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: in good shape. But what we have is, because of
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: jerrymandering and because of money, we no longer on politicians
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: or lawmakers. We have performers. And that is if Marjorie
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Taylor Green goes on and says that it's Jewish space
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: lasers or or that, or that these people are acting
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: like you know, Jew's not. I mean, she says to
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: us some seniory things. But TikTok takes it and loves it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And there's there's an element of the far right that
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: likes that likes her calling out the other side. They're
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: not there. They don't want lawmaking. They want someone to
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: tickle their censors and make them feel good about making
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: the other side look really bad, and they go on
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: TikTok and then they raise a lot of money through
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: small dollar donations, and then they get re elected. And
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: most of these folks have never passed you know, many
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: of them have never passed a goddamn law. They don't.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: They allowed me pro wrestling. It's like you remember when
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the remember of the pro wrestlers used to do the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: interview before the match and they're like, I'm.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Mongster and I'm gonna put you in a show cold
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: with these pythons.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Right, that's kind of like what I see. Those those
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: all those all those extreme politicians on both sides who
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: try to get the most attention. It's like they say
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: outrageous things to like you say, get small dollar donations
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and can't be defeated. Right.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like there's jerry mandering. I mean, here's the thing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: We now have minority rule. The majority of Americans believe
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: in bodily autonomy. The majority of Americans believe in some
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: sort of gun control, but twenty percent of our population
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: as eighty percent of our senators. And because politicians like
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: to be reelected, they've gone through and redrawn the maps
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and they've turned everything hard blue or hard right. So
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: the general election means nothing. It's all about the primary.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: So when the general election is the Republican or the
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Democratic primary, depending on whether your dictritus hard blue or
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: hard read, all we're doing is sending fucking crazies from
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: the left and the right because the primary is all
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: about who can be more conservative, who can be more progressive,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And there's no way for moderates to get elected, So
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: we just don't have a representative electorate.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: The majority of people are somewhere in the middle. The
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: majority of people are like, okay, bodily autonomy, Yeah, people
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: need access to family planning. Does that mean you should
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: be able to have an abortion in your third trimester?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe not? Okay, but that doesn't happen. But let's have
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: a conversation about.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: It should be.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, most people can come to some sort of consensus.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Should you have the right to bear arms? Yeah, but
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: should you be able to pass a mental health check?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Should you have a registration? Should you be occasionally visit
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: by a local official. I mean in England there was
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: a mass shooting and I think it was done Blane seventeen.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Just awful, right, and within a week the MPs passed
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: legislation to a band assault rifles. The same thing happened
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: in a mass shooting after mass shooting in Australia. Seems
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: pretty reasonable, and since then there's been no mass shootings.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: It's like, we claim that we have this unique problem
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: that's unsolvable and the only country that has it. I'm
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: living in London and one of the things I love
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: about living there free gift with purchase, bodily autonomy, trans
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: rites guns, right, They're not even conversations.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: It's just a way of life.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: It's like it's just okay, should trans issues dominate the
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: political discourse? Do people have to have third bathrooms in
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: every organization? No, we're not going to let it dictate
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: our politics. But at the same time, leaving the fuck alone, like, okay,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: why do you need We're not going to demonize them,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: just leave them alone. There's just things have gotten so
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest threat in America, I'm really going
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: on script now, it's not income inequality, it's not climate change,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: it's extremism, and that is the people we send to
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: make our laws generally can't stand each other, and their
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: worldview is not an American view where we want to
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: get along and come together. It's representing a fringe that
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: is totally out of touch with the rest of America
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: and just is quote unquote principled but not pragmatic. And
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: as a result, this is the least productive Congress we've
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: had in history. There are no laws, we can't even
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: pass a budget. The only thing they come together on
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: is the far left and the far right will come
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: together for reckless spending. You want more defense spending, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: we want to cut taxes. You want more social serious services.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I know, let's just run up young people's credit card
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: and spend seven trillion dollars in five trillion bipartisan reckless spending.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Whenever the far left and the far right agree on something,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a really shitty idea, and they do
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: come together around stuff. But the polarization of our society,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: largely driven by our rage people have been totally forgotten,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: left behind, the jerrymandering, money and politics, and then social
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: media that rewards that polarization. There really isn't you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: go on, go on someone's Twitter feed and say that's
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: a thoughtful comment. I need to think this through. That
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't get a lot of likes. No, that's not it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: it's amazing, it's amazing.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It's you know, I went on I'm off Twitter now
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: just because I just can't believe that is rage.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: That is rage, rage, range cage rage.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy. It's like it's like a steel
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: cage match. But it is funny every once in a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: while to lurk and see exactly what you're saying there.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's an it's like who can out snark anyone? If
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: you do happen to stumble across a picture of like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: look at this beautiful flower, people are like, you know
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that that particular breed of a strain of flower is
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: ruining this bugs existence and it should be. I mean,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you can't find it's just a steel cage match at
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: all times. I mean Twitter has become like the most
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: i mean extreme version of that in my.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Perfect Yeah, I'm off of it. Yeah, I got off
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: of it long ago.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I don't even have an for it anymore.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Technically, when you become, you become, you become where you
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: spend your time, and I noticed I was becoming terse,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: looking for opportunities to make people look stupid.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I like Twitter.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I would wait till someone said something indelicate or in
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: our full and way in and I got my guardians
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: at gotcha pin right, and I got to I got
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: to see the moral high ground because I was right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And what you said was stupid.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: And then I realized I am becoming an asshole, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I just got off of it and said, I don't
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: need to be in everybody's up, in everyone's grill and
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: saying provocative things just to get more likes. And and
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I'm naturally I struggle with anger and depression, and I'm like,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I've found too many people like me on.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Twitter, and I thought, agreed, That's why I got off
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: of it too.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: This is not the gang I need to be a
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: part of. Right, So I'm off that. I don't like
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: the way the owner acquits himself, but you have to.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: But like you said, I can modulate it. I don't
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: know if my fourteen and seventeen year olds can modulate.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: When we look back on this time, Donald and Zach,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: we're gonna regret what we did. We're regret the weaponization
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: of our elections. We're gonna regret the coursening of our discourse.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: We're gonna regret the income inequality. But more than anything,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: we're going to go, how did we let this happen
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: to our kids? That'll be our biggest regret.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. There's a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: parent's plenty of parents listening. Can you just give them
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: advice on that? I know somebody, especially parents you haven't
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: don't don't yet have kids addicted to it? Who are who?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: It would be hard if you've got young children, is
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: your advice to keep them off social media till they're sixteen?
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Well, first, I just want to acknowledge that anyone who
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: says it's a parenting problem doesn't have kids, because you know,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I wrote, I've written books on big tech. I speak
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: a lot about it, supposely knowledgeable about it. My son
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: struggled with the vice addiction. Hands down the number one
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: source of tension and anxiety in my household. And this
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: is somewhat of a story of privilege. Is that damn phone.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: It is fifty percent of the arguments between my kids
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: and me, between my wife and me, are about that
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: fucking phone and its relationship with our kids. And the
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: problem is the collective problem, and that is, if you
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: don't ban it for all sixteen year olds, your kid's
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: going to be more depressed. And there's research on this
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: because he or she will be ostracized from their friends
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: because this is how they communicate, this is how they
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: get their homework. So unless we have collective action where
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: schools banned phones and social media's outlawed for people under
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the age of sixteen, I think the best you can
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: do is modulate it. There are parental tools that the
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: platforms make purposely exceptionally tofficult because they don't want you
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: to use them. They want to pretend to have them.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: They want to say we have them.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Go on.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Unless you have a master's and computer science from MIT
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: and you know ux design, can you actually figure out
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: how to use these things? But there are tricks. If
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: you put all your kids on the same phone plan,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: you can shut off there they're wireless. Like when I
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: really want to go gangster, I shut off their wireless
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: from their phone, and all of a sudden they become very,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: very they become wonderful children until I turn.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: It back exactly that's the best. It's the best.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Well, look when we and I find myself bartering and
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: negotiating with my kids over it, and it's the worst
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: thing ever. Like, you're absolutely right, you know, maybe there
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: is something in this I like, you know, to collect
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: data for myself, because everything that you said just.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Now, Scott is absolutely true.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: My wife and I argue about we don't argue about
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: shit that other I mean the ship that they argue
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: about in the movies. We argue about the phone and
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: what it's doing to our kid. And my argument is, well,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: let's just take it away. And then she's like, but
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: they're our friends and all they're so and it just
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: goes and you talk in circles about it too, because
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: you hear the other person's argument in the situation and
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: you agree with a lot of it, but some of
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: that shit doesn't necessarily apply to your kid, Like there's
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: just it's just it's it's it's a it's a it's.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: The worst thing.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I feel personally, the worst thing that ever existed created
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: was the Internet. And when I look at it, it's
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: great for information for me and it's great to find
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: the information, but all it's doing is make it to me,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: it's making my kid not necessarily smarter. My kids don't
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: necessarily have normal conversations anymore. They talk like the fucking
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: characters in their uh in their on their screen. And
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: it's like I can't take them off of it because
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I'm addicted to it as well, you know what I mean.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: And so it's like, who am I to take it
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: from you? It's just and it's a circular conversation that
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: consistently goes like this, and I fuck, I can't stand it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's the worst.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling to think I'm failing my child
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: because because of what I've because of something I've done,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: and I can't control what I did because I need
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: it too.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: There's so I do believe that if we had a
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: red button to push. Do you remember that that Twilight sound?
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: They did a remake of it in the nineties where
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: this family was the guy who was in a great
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: movie called May Not Express. He shows up and him
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: and his wife was straggling with money, and this guy
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: shows him and says, if you press this button, someone
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: you'll never know or never meet will die and you
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: get ten thousand bucks. And then at the end of
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: that they press it, they get the ten thousand bucks.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: The guy shows up and takes the box and says,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: where are you taking the box, and said, we're going
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: to deliver to someone you'll never know, and we'll never
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: know you. And if you had that red button and
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: you could press and all of the Internet would go away,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think we'd press it. I think that we're
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: net gainers on the whole from technology.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: The problem is with the word net. We're net in
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: my belief, in my view, we're net gainers from fossil fuels,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: but we still have emission standards. We're net. We're net
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: gainers from pesticides, but we still have an FDA. We're net.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Social media there's a lot of good on it. TikTok
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: has a lot interesting videos. Email my phone.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Kids there you go.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: The kids who work for me at Propercy Media. They're
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: warriors with better weapons than I ever had. They're more productive,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: they're making more money, they're growing the economy. These things
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: create shareholder wealth, they create great jobs.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: My son is raising money on TikTok and learning AI
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: so we can go to you know, go to Rwanda
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: and build a school. There's some amazing on a net basis.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: We're beneficiaries and big tech, but that doesn't mean we
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: shouldn't regulate it. That doesn't mean we should say, Okay,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: if you're spreading misinformation and you know you're spreading misinformation
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: or disinformation, and kids start killing themselves because your algorithm
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: will since they're having suicidal ideation, and start sending them
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: emails saying here's some images on suicide.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: You might like.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: There should be a world of hurt for those executives.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Somebody needs to show up in an orange jumpsuit. So
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I would argue we're net gainers, but we have to
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: have some regulation, and we have to have thoughtful, younger
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: people who understand this technology making laws, but waiting for
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: their better And this comes back to your questions, Ach,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: waiting for the better angels of Mark Zuckerberg to show up.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Don't hold your breath. These people are doing their job.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: We're not doing ours, and that is to elect people
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: who will prevent a tragedy of commons and think long term,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: understand these technologies, and create laws that make us make
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: it easier for us as parents and as citizens.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I want to ask this question.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: It moved me when I heard you say it, because
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: all it did was make me think about my wife
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: and how wonderful she is and how supportive she is
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: of my career. And then when the highs are up there,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: oh my god, it feels so good to be able
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: to share that with her. But you said something about
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: how the most important decision we make in our lives
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: is who we choose to have as a spouse is
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: because you know, you experience, you experience something together and
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the feel of love, and you know, even the feel
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: of sorrow if you have somebody there to support you,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: or you can support somebody. There's that dopamine that you
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: were talking about earlier, you know what I mean. Can
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: you just comment on that, please, because it's something that's
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: so fucking amazing. I think a lot of people need
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: to hear this.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but let me start off by saying, I don't
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: think you have to have a romantic relationship for Mary.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: To be happy.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people who are very happy
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: without that. They find other places to give and receive love,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: especially women, men, men without romantic partnership. I have a
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: really tough time now having said that the context I
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: was saying that in was economically. The majority of wealthy
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: people have built their wealth with a partner, and because
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: the team is just so powerful, both in terms of
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: your ability to share expenses, be supportive of each other,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: be a trusted advisor. And you know, I didn't want
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: to get married, I didn't want to have kids. I
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: loved living in New York, having a little bit of
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: economic security. I just like, I'm like, why would I
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: ever give this? I'm going to ride this whole single
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: dude with the perception of wealth thing out. I was
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: really enjoying it, and.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm still riding it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Part You're still there, Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, if
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I could just be for one week and a month.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And it'll be great.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: So, but on the whole, on the whole, if you
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: look at happiness, the majority of happy, really happy people
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: are in something resembling a monogamous, committed relationship. Now what
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I have I see across my friends. I have friends
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: who are hugely successful across all dimensions, but they don't
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: have a partnership with their partner, and there's just a
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: level of anxiety and stress in everything in their life.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: And then I have other friends who are you know,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: they do fine, that they're not what you call ballers
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: or from an experior perspective, that's successful. But everything burns
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: a little brighter because they have a great partner, the
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: most important decision to make, and unfortunately, a lot of
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: times it's out of your control because who they evolve
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: into and how If you want to be economically successful
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: and happy, you're going to have to bring generosity and
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: forgiveness to a relationship, and you're going to also have
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: to put away to score a card and just decide
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: what kind of friend, what kind of sun, what kind
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: of husband do I want to be? Because you will
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: always inflate your own contribution to the relationship and diminish theirs,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: and you end up when you keep score, you end
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: up upset and angry and end up injecting bullshit into
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: the relationship where it doesn't belong. But if you can
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: figure out a way to find a competent, loving partner
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: that you're attracted to and then really go all in
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: on it, just everything. You know, I love having kids,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: but what's profound about it is raising kids with someone
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: you know I care about, I love. I've made a
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: lot of money, it's hugely rewarding, you know, what was
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: more rewarding it It was it was building economic security
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: with a partner. It was high fiving each other. Fuck,
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: we can buy a house. Oh my god, do you
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: realize how much this hotel room is costing us? Isn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: this awesome? We built this ship together. That's like, that
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: is so rewarding, Zach. It sounds like you will never
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: understand that reward.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying listen. I'm sitting here listening to you.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Fuck you, I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here listening, nodding,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: going yeah, yeah, I want that. I want that. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: want that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: It's a curse of good hair, a deep voice, and
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: a little bit of fame. Yeah, you got your Your
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: question isn't who to partner with, it's who not to
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: partner with?
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: This weekend ladies, hello, can you talk about You talked
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: about a number and the age you were when you
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: with you know, your number was a million, and then
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: it turned to ten million.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Then it turned into can you can you explain that also?
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Because that's something also I'm trying to.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get a third question to Jesus Christ.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: We got them on the show, we might as well
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: ask I don't know. Okay.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: The third question is, so I agree, I feel like
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I'm never going to make money just being.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: A worker at one thing. The way to expand is
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to be an owner in some way?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: What are ways for people out there who can't understand that?
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: What is a what is a in Layman's term? Can
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: you just explain that to people?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: And what you said?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I think, yes, I help you. I think what you're
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: saying is, you know, one of the things that we
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: both commented, we said, is the difference what you articulated,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: articulated in Layman's terms, the difference between just being someone
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: who's chronically just a worker getting a check and actually
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: having a chance to earn real wealth, not just a paycheck.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Look, I think America becomes more like itself every day,
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: and that is it's a loving, generous place if you
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: have money. It's a rapacious, violent place if you don't.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about what America is or what America
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: should be. I'm talking about what America is. It's especially
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: important for men, and because women are disproportionally evaluated on
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: their looks, it's totally unfair men are disproportionally evaluated on
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: their economic viability, which is also unfair, but that's the reality.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: If you're a young man, you need to have a
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: plan for economic security. And by the way, women are
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: doing a better job of that plan, and it's wonderful
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: and we shouldn't do anything to get in the way
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: of it. But too many young men don't have a
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: plan for how they're going to be economically viable. And
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: one of the things I'm in my book, I go
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: through how to develop a plan, how to think about it,
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: the behaviors and the strategies. But I liked having a
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: number because I say, Okay, a million dollar sounds like
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of money, but if I can save five
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: percent of my salary, by the way, automated savings get
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: it out of your hands, taken out of your check.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent of us will spend all of our
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: money that comes to our hands because the smartest, most
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: deepest resourced people in the world are going to serve
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: you with opportunities two hundred times a day to upgrade
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: from economy to economy comfort. And why wouldn't you stay
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: at Lost Fontanas for the girl's weekend? And why, oh wait,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: would you like to add flowerless chocolate cake? To your
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: order from Baltasar. You will get hit with opportunities every
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: day to spend everything. But if you save three to
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: five percent of your salary from the age of twenty two,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: you're going to be a millionaire by the time you're
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: my age. And then even if it's you're in your
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: thirties and you haven't done that, if you can save
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: five to ten percent, you're going to be a millionaire.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: So you want to You need a plan for economic
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: security rather than just hoping you're going to go double
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: platinum and start a big podcast or get a movie deal.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: You need a plan in case you don't hit it big.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: And so the answers I know how to get you rich.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: The bad news is the answer is slowly with a
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: certain amount of discipline. I always had a number because
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: I grew up. I was raised by a single immigrant
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: mother who lived and died a secretary. My household income
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: was never over forty thousand dollars. I was like one
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: of three or four guys in my fraternity, and everyone
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: knew us. They didn't have any money. And every summer,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: if I didn't make three thousand making save three thousand bucks,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: I wasn't re enrolling at UCLA, and a lot of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: good came from that, from grit. But when I started
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: my career, I didn't want to be a better person.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to change the world. I wanted fucking money,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of it. And I noticed that I had
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: some very shocking and roundling things happened to me. My
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: mom got terminally sick and I couldn't take care of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: her to the extent I wanted. It was humiliating and emasculating,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: and so from a very early age, I was really
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: economically focused and I thought, if I could get a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: million dollars to'd be fine. Then I got to a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: million dollars and I lived in New York. I'm like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: a million dollars. I can't live in New York with
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: a couple of kids on a million, I mean. So
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: I went to ten million, and then I went bigger
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: than that, and I'm very open about my finances. I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: passed one hundred million seven years ago. I'm hugely privileged,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: hugely lucky, and by the way, I'm not humble. I'm
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: a fucking monster. I'm ridiculously talented and ridiculously hard working.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: But I also got really lucky and appreciate the fact
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: that for the majority of my life, all prosperity was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: crammed into this corner called white straight males. So I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: appreciate that I nod to it, and I'm trying to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: make sure that the drawbridge is down for other people.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: But personally, once I got to that number, or seven
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: years ago, when I sold my last company, I'm like,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go raise more money and start a private
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: equity fund because Scott Galloway billionaire just has a nice
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: ring to it. I thought, I want to be a billionaire.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: That shit's going to be sexy. That shit is going
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: to be sexy. And then I thought, okay, and then
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I had a close friend pass away, and I'm like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: what do I really want in life? I want a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: series of amazing experiences that make me feel closer to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: the people I have relationships with. And I thought, do
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I have enough money to do that? And the answer
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: is yes. And I thought, well, why am I going
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: to get back on this hamster wheel. I've been my
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: whole life trying to make more money at any cost,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: And now what I do is the following. I have
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: my number, I sit down with my wealth managers at
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: the end of the year, they tell me what my
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: wealth is and what I made that year. If it's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: above that number, I either spend it. I love spending money.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I'm spending money like a gangster in the fifties diagnosed
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: with as cancer. I love spending money, and I'm really
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: really good at it. And I think there's some nobility
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: to go to ice restaurants, go to an ice restaurants,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: tip large, fly your friends to Aspen. It's a capitalist society.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: It is so much money to spend money and spend
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: it well, and then anything above that I give away
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: because it makes me feel masculine, It makes me feel
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: like a baller. It makes me feel very American, and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: that is so rewarding because I tell you I could
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: very easily be out of private equity firm right now,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: aiming for the billionaires club, taking huge risks, having a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: more strained relationship with my spouse and my kids, trying
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: to get to a number that makes absolutely going no
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: goddamn difference in the reality is and all the studies.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: I'm happy to show this above a level where you
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: get economic security, can afford a nice home, take nice vacations,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: manage a health crisis, get your kids into good schools.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: And by the way, that's a shit ton of money.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: But once you get to that point, anything above that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: provides almost no incremental happiness. Money can value happiness. Middle
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: class homes are happier than lower class. Upper income homes
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: are happier the middle. But billionaires are no happier than millionaires.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: They're no less happy. That's also a myth, but they're
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: no happier. So why, once you get to a place
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: of economic security, wouldn't you just enjoy the shit out
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: of spending it, deepen your relationships and start giving it away.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: It is so rewarding. And it was one of the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: other than other than finding my partner and deciding to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: have kids, which I didn't want to do. I didn't decide,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: she decided. But other than that, my approach to money
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: the last few years. And this is a problem of privilege.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: I want to acknowledge that. But getting off the hamster wheel,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: recognizing money as the ink in your pen, write different stories,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: make stories burn brighter, but it's not. Your story is
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: so rewarding. But for me it was having a number,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: and not only was it aspirational, but it told me
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: when to stop and flip to being more generous and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: more focused on my relationship and experiences, because I would
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: still be on that wheel trying to get to be
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: in front of my name.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, listen, I've done very well for myself
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm very very, very very happy with where I'm at.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: I always feel like I could use a little bit more, though,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't know if I had.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: I haven't reached your number yet, but.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yet.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I enjoy my kids.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: I enjoy the One of the best feelings in my
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: life was recently buying a house after losing pretty much
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: all the money I made while making Scrubs due to
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  Speaker 3: bad investments and poor business decisions, whether it be manager
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  Speaker 3: or myself. I thought at one point I'll never buy
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  Speaker 3: a house again.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right.
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  Speaker 3: It does feel a mask. It feels like somebody cut
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  Speaker 3: my dick off. You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: But the day I said to my wife we can
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  Speaker 2: buy this house, it felt so rewarding. And you're right.
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  Speaker 2: The high five was so hard.
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  Speaker 3: The sex was so good that night because we were
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  Speaker 3: able to because she was in the struggle with it.
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  Speaker 4: It was a good view, Zach.
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  Speaker 1: It was amazing. Was I was only I was only
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  Speaker 1: allowed to watch from the corner, But I bet I
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  Speaker 1: did ejaculate the go.
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  Speaker 2: That's too much, that's too much.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a heurologist on TV. You can say that.
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  Speaker 2: But that that absolutely right, professor g.
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  Speaker 1: That was We got to let the professor go. We've
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  Speaker 1: had him for an hour. But the latest book is
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  Speaker 1: The Algebra of Wealth, a simple formula for financial security.
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  Speaker 1: And you also have a couple of podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: You want to mention those, Scott, Yeah, to resist his
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  Speaker 4: feudal I'm everywhere, Zach. I'm like aol in the nineties.
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  Speaker 4: You stick your hand in a cereal box, You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: pull me out?
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  Speaker 2: Did you just go bored with us?
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  Speaker 4: Just now?
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  Speaker 2: Persistance is futile? Is that what you just said?
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  Speaker 4: That's right?
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  Speaker 1: Soon I'm there. So what are you?
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  Speaker 5: You have?
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  Speaker 4: Two pot cropey pivot. I just launched a political podcast
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  Speaker 4: with Jessica Tarlov. She's a lone Democrat on the show
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  Speaker 4: The Five on Fox. And I write books. I have
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  Speaker 4: a newsletter called Numerous Nomalice. So yeah, I just type in.
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  Speaker 1: My last thing I want to say about you is
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  Speaker 1: if you if you're listening, and you only have twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Watch Scott Galloway's Ted Talks. Thanks, it's it's pretty incredible
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  Speaker 1: and I love that. I love so many people that
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  Speaker 1: do Ted Talks. You can tell they're nervous because it
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  Speaker 1: is nerve wracking. You just look like you're the most baller,
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  Speaker 1: badass guy. You're like, look, I'm twenty minutes, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: diving right in. I got one hundred slides, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: And I really enjoy I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: And you were fooled. I felt like I was going
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  Speaker 4: to throw up. I was hugely nervous, but thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well you held it. You held it together. Man. You know,
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  Speaker 1: for those that don't know, you don't have teleprompters Ted Talk,
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  Speaker 1: you do it, or you do it right, or you
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  Speaker 1: fuck up. And I thought you were amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks brother, appreciate it. Congrats on both your success and
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  Speaker 4: well done guys. Thank you man, Thanks everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on.
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  Speaker 3: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, he's so smart, yo. I just want to listen
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  Speaker 1: to him talk all day long.
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  Speaker 2: How did we do this? How did we get him
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  Speaker 2: on the show?
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  Speaker 1: I asked a long time ago, and I know just
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  Speaker 1: from seeing him on very very very popular podcast that
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  Speaker 1: that he's very hard to get. So I asked you
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  Speaker 1: well to like try hard, and then she got.
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  Speaker 3: It was amazing, man, And I hope you guys out
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  Speaker 3: there learned something today, or at least we're able to
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  Speaker 3: opened your mind up a little bit, like because you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's rare that we at Fake Doctor's real friends have
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  Speaker 3: people like this on our show.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It was that was he
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  Speaker 2: was amazing, Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? What do you think? Daniel?
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  Speaker 7: I think is a very smart guy, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: think his takes her you know, is I think it's
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  Speaker 7: just a very good, honest look at the world, and
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  Speaker 7: I think it's an important take. I also think it's
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  Speaker 7: imbued with a little bit of humility about being, you know,
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  Speaker 7: willing to change and being willing to look at the
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  Speaker 7: world and admit that some things are not as you
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  Speaker 7: perceive them and also not as not as they used
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  Speaker 7: to be. I think you spoke a lot about that
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  Speaker 7: with how you know, Congress is full of people that
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  Speaker 7: are old. We you know, we have these great phones that.
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  Speaker 1: We all love.
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  Speaker 7: We need laws around them and that is just normal.
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  Speaker 7: And I thought that was that was something that I
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  Speaker 7: really appreciated about what he was talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that one day that there's a younger Congress
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  Speaker 1: that can get their head around that. It seems to
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  Speaker 1: me that because of the average age of the people
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  Speaker 1: in Congress, that it's not something they fully understand or
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  Speaker 1: see why regulation is so necessary for for children.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I'm not very astute when it comes to politics,
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  Speaker 3: uh and laws being passed. But when was the last
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  Speaker 3: time that that not the not the not the Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 3: but Congress and the Senate past were able to agree
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  Speaker 3: on a law.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was probably the last budget, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know they pass stuff outside. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: that that has to look up.
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  Speaker 3: I do not know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what are they doing it?
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  Speaker 1: What are they doing arguing? Are they just argue? They
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: arguing then cock block kind of like you in veg Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: That was really interesting. Thank you, audience. I know this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the funniest of our podcast, but I was super
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  Speaker 1: informative and I and I hope that you liked it.
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  Speaker 1: I again, check out his Ted talk. It's pretty impressive
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  Speaker 1: and he's so smart.
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  Speaker 3: He has great ideas on accumulating wealth too, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so just I mean that's something.
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  Speaker 1: Not only does he have the algebra of wealth, but
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  Speaker 1: there was one I think called the algebra of happiness. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I read that one. I recommend that one too, the
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  Speaker 1: Algebra of Happiness. The New York Times called him the
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  Speaker 1: Howard Stern of the business world. He's a he's a
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  Speaker 1: fascinating guy. All right, Donald, I love you.
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  Speaker 2: I had such a great time this weekend. Man, Thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you came to Vegas. I thank you for
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  Speaker 1: saying yes, even though it was I just learned that
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  Speaker 1: it was that was.
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  Speaker 2: Thought would happen. You know how dark she gets, she goes,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: she goes real dark with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I'm glad. I'm glad you came, even though
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  Speaker 1: it was out of fear of there being a scrubbs
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  Speaker 1: version with that all right.
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  Speaker 2: About show we made about a bunch of the way
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  Speaker 2: next all should know.
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  Speaker 4: So gadder round you here, up, gadder round you here, up,
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  Speaker 4: scus we watch your wits and h