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3 New Feminist Double Standards Just Dropped · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: I don't date men anymore. I don't see them as people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that they should even be allowed to vote.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's why we're in this situation, because they're voting.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I feel there should be a program.
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  Speaker 1: They start off in jail. Yes, yes, like start off
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  Speaker 1: in jail, start off with no rights, you actually get none,
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  Speaker 1: and then you can earn them.
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  Speaker 2: Then a woman can say, you know what, like he
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  Speaker 2: should be allowed to maybe vote.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna vote when I want him to vote.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I feel. I don't feel good about being
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  Speaker 4: white every day.
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  Speaker 1: This is the delivery mechanism. And I'm just a female,
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  Speaker 1: but just a woman, just a white woman. This is
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  Speaker 1: the payload. If I was a white man, I would
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  Speaker 1: be functioning from a point of an even greater privilege.
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  Speaker 5: If I see a group of young men, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and they're like kind of boisterous, I get really nervous.
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  Speaker 5: And he's like, well, what if they're black guys? And
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  Speaker 5: then she's like no, wait, wait wait.
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  Speaker 1: They want to use conviction rates to show the percentage
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  Speaker 1: of men that engage in sexual crime relative to women.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want us to actually look the racial composition
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  Speaker 1: of the men who are going to jail for sexual assault, and.
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  Speaker 5: Then they create a hierarchy and it puts like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: straight white guys at the very bottom and all the
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  Speaker 5: other men like just above that, and then you get
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  Speaker 5: onto the other identities.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it is impossible for the CDC that is the
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  Speaker 1: center of disease control to find three years in a
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  Speaker 1: row parity and sexual assault victimization with significant amounts of
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  Speaker 1: that victimization done by women to men.
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  Speaker 5: Think that it's a fundamental unfairness that women are allowed
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  Speaker 5: to vote on policies for warfare that they then don't
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  Speaker 5: have to go fight.
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  Speaker 6: Men don't get the vote if they don't sign up.
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  Speaker 6: Women get the vote by default. So literally, men actually
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  Speaker 6: have less of the right to vote.
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  Speaker 5: Not that the vote is a right, because it's not,
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  Speaker 5: but they have less of access to the vote than
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  Speaker 5: women do.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your vote, but get rid of the narrative that
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  Speaker 1: you're a victim relative to men.
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  Speaker 6: So that that's the goal.
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  Speaker 5: Why I joking, you know, joke about the Nineteenth all
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  Speaker 5: the time. I don't think it's going away because women
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  Speaker 5: would actually have to vote for that, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: think that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great image to say.
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  Speaker 6: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 6: is Brian. I'm here with Alison, and.
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  Speaker 5: This is maintaining frame three new feminist double standards have dropped.
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  Speaker 5: Where we are gonna be responding to three videos, hopefully
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  Speaker 5: in a timely manner, and two of them are by
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  Speaker 5: Brinny Claire, the our favorite feminist that likes to make
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  Speaker 5: references to use the entertainment industry, which is predominantly, like
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  Speaker 5: overwhelmingly feminists, to make arguments in favor of feminism, so
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  Speaker 5: that should be fun. She has a couple of holiday episodes,
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  Speaker 5: and then we have one from The Queer Kiwi which
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  Speaker 5: is a bit of a long winded rant, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's where we're gonna be talking about today.
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  Speaker 6: So before we get started, we do what we gotta do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So just before I'll get into that, I'll just
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  Speaker 1: give you guys a brief preview Byrony talks about what
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  Speaker 1: makes a good man. The Queer Kiwi talks about the
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  Speaker 1: left versus right, and of course she falls in line
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  Speaker 1: with the left, so you can only imagine. And then
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  Speaker 1: finally we go back to Byrony to talk about more
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  Speaker 1: double standards that she holds men and women to. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: double standards that she holds men to, she doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: hold women to a standard. So those are the three
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna cover, and we'll cover how to push back
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  Speaker 1: against them or not internalize them, as it were. So
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  Speaker 1: I would like to point out that I have a
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  Speaker 1: very new voidcat conveyance device that I have attached to
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  Speaker 1: my desk and hopefully this will keep her from attacking
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  Speaker 1: the computer. Probably not. And also, if you guys were
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  Speaker 1: around the last one she took a dive bomb onto
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  Speaker 1: my hand rest here and then decided to when it
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  Speaker 1: when it exploded, you know, just it just decided to die.
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  Speaker 1: And then she she used me as her attempt to
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  Speaker 1: find purchase again. Hopefully this will this will be more
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  Speaker 1: solid and will work better for her. She's already she's
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  Speaker 1: already removing herself from her place. You know what I
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  Speaker 1: should I should use has Saan method and get you
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  Speaker 1: an electric caller. Okay, no, I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: That that would I would never do that. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's get into it. So the first time code
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  Speaker 1: for Byrony.
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  Speaker 6: Is we were looking at the first Priory Claire video,
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  Speaker 6: which is what makes a good guy? The Holiday shows, Yes,
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  Speaker 6: yes he's going to be I think this is the
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  Speaker 6: one where Yeah, she's looking at that movie. I can't
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  Speaker 6: remember the name of it. It was like I never
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  Speaker 6: saw it.
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  Speaker 5: It was a rom com with Jude Law and Jack
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  Speaker 5: Black and the chick from the I don't know, the
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  Speaker 5: English chick with the lips that was in that movie
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  Speaker 5: about the Diary.
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  Speaker 6: I can't remember the name she was.
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  Speaker 5: I think she was well whatever, it doesn't matter, and
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  Speaker 5: Cameron Diaz and she is trying to say that this
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  Speaker 5: is like one of very very few films that gets
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  Speaker 5: you know, like the good guy versus nice guy thing
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  Speaker 5: right or something. And basically it's a vehicle that lets
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  Speaker 5: her discuss what she thinks is the absolute state of
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  Speaker 5: men today.
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  Speaker 6: Of course that's kind of the purpose of it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and of course when it's astounding that she's
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  Speaker 1: finding only this, I think this is a rom com.
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  Speaker 1: So the only of all the rom coms, guys, of
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  Speaker 1: all the rom coms out there, there's only a select few,
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  Speaker 1: according to Byrony, that are sufficiently female servicing enough to
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  Speaker 1: qualify as not misogynists, because you know, as we all know,
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  Speaker 1: romcom is definitely a misogynist genre. Okay, so the first
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  Speaker 1: time code is ten forty eight. That's ten minutes forty
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  Speaker 1: eight seconds in where she is going to lay out
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  Speaker 1: her thesis on what a nice guy is versus a
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  Speaker 1: genuine guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, let's do it all right, here we go, all right, So, like,
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  Speaker 6: let me go back a little bit because I saw
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  Speaker 6: this bit, so I think it's Cameron Diaz. She like
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  Speaker 6: goes to.
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  Speaker 5: She's breaking up with her husband or something, goes to
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  Speaker 5: like you know, England meets Jude Law's character totally like
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  Speaker 5: next you know guy next.
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  Speaker 6: Door character, right, Jude Law, not not at all like
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  Speaker 6: a stud.
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  Speaker 5: And I guess they go out and they get drunk,
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  Speaker 5: and she wakes up and doesn't remember what happened night
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  Speaker 5: before and asks if something happened, and he said no,
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  Speaker 5: like they didn't, they'll have sex or any thing because.
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  Speaker 6: She wouldn't remember, which make would make it rape. So
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  Speaker 6: that's what. But why she's bringing this up? Okay, so
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  Speaker 6: let's you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I cannot hear a damn thing I don't know here.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right, it's not no, I have to I
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  Speaker 6: have to unshare and share again, hold on if it's
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  Speaker 6: been up for a while, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, there we go.
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  Speaker 4: Especially like, remember this is from two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 4: but all of the shaming, as I have talked about
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  Speaker 4: so many times, still very prevalent today. But then he
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  Speaker 4: says this, the fact I even have to create a
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  Speaker 4: Pau's hand to let bannisin caning the bomb really really useful.
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  Speaker 2: It's not all right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, my dear, what what is this? Also there's
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  Speaker 1: an echo. I want to trace that down. But this
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  Speaker 1: is this is fiction. And I noticed that the there's
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  Speaker 1: no reciprocrocity here either. It's only the the standard is
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  Speaker 1: only based on women. Like, do you really think that
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  Speaker 1: women have a better attitude towards having sex with unconscious
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  Speaker 1: men and thinking of that as not being a good
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  Speaker 1: thing to do? The answer is no, So where are
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  Speaker 1: you going with this?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 1: He'd never they never reference the fact that women's attitudes
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  Speaker 1: towards men's consent and all of these circumstances is worse.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's go with this this joke. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is meant to be mildly snide, right.
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  Speaker 6: And what is like her statement or the movie's statement.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh call me old fashioned?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that he's being tongue in cheek.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he's being tongue in cheek. He's basically saying, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a criminal, right, I'm not not somebody who and
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  Speaker 1: he's understating it. And then she's taking this absolutely literally.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this because I was
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  Speaker 1: I was analyzing these these videos, right, and we're talking
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  Speaker 1: like these are people who probably would ail the water
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  Speaker 1: level test. We've got to think about this, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, guys know what the water level test?
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned it in a while back. But it is
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  Speaker 1: a test in which you have to rotate a or
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  Speaker 1: actually just tip, yeah, tip a glass, and then in
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  Speaker 1: your mind you have to figure out where the water
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  Speaker 1: level how to draw the water level. So you basically
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  Speaker 1: have a glass, a drawing of a glass straight up
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  Speaker 1: and down, and then the drawing of a glass without
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  Speaker 1: the water level tipped, and you have to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to draw in the water level. Not insubstantial. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: a majority, maybe a large minority of women who are
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  Speaker 1: college bound fail that test, and we are probably looking
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  Speaker 1: at one of them. She has such insufficient systems thinking
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  Speaker 1: that she cannot model systemically something that she experiences regularly
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  Speaker 1: every day of her life or nearly every day, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe she only drinks out of styrofoam cops,
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  Speaker 1: who knows. But seriously, so where do we find the
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  Speaker 1: common ground when people like this have no ability to
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  Speaker 1: understand a system, so they can't really comprehend systematic ethics.
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  Speaker 1: Like okay, if you're going to assert based on some
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  Speaker 1: dude making a small joke about how he isn't like
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  Speaker 1: he's literally not a criminal, he's calling he's he's he's
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  Speaker 1: humorously minimizing it. Said by saying, Oh, call me old fashioned,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't go around raping women. That's that is
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  Speaker 1: a form of humor. That is like what is it
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  Speaker 1: called deliberate minimization in a hyperbolic way, right, And she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even understand that, probably because humor, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: requires a bit more abstract thought than average or not average,
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  Speaker 1: but just a little bit of ability to understand something abstract.
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  Speaker 1: And also she is using that without any consideration for
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  Speaker 1: the universality of her sexual ethics and thinking about, well,
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  Speaker 1: what do women think about men who are unconscious? Are
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  Speaker 1: they unusually concilient or unusually concerned about the consent of men?
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  Speaker 1: But let's let's let's just look at these two. No,
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  Speaker 1: she just goes right to men, men are bad. This
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  Speaker 1: mild joke is proof of it, without any attempt to
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  Speaker 1: understand her ethics in a systematic way. Okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if or.
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  Speaker 6: If she's no, no, you conveyed the information. You're you're you're.
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  Speaker 5: Saying that she doesn't understand that Judlaw's character was making
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  Speaker 5: a joke in a romantic comedy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, that was you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, perhaps a bit dark, but also uh, a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a virtue signal. Too, because it's the kind
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  Speaker 5: of humor that feminists engage in, right, Like.
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  Speaker 6: Call me old fashioned, but I think it's the law.
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  Speaker 5: Right like that kind of like really smug, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but he does it is it a lot more charming,
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  Speaker 5: and he is taking him literally in order to make
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  Speaker 5: a point. But I'm not sure that it's because she's dumb.
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  Speaker 5: I think that she's deceiving her audience. I think that
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  Speaker 5: she is manipulating the people who watch her that don't
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  Speaker 5: watch movies from two thousand and six. I can't even
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  Speaker 5: remember the name of this fucking movie, and she's hoping
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  Speaker 5: that they'll just take She's basically like taking something in
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  Speaker 5: media that is said one way, and I guarantee you
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  Speaker 5: it was made by people with you know, feminist beliefs
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  Speaker 5: at that time that already agreed with that, because that's
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  Speaker 5: why it had some of the you know, sort of
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  Speaker 5: gynocentric themes in the movie. But she's using this as
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  Speaker 5: a launchpad to make a commentary about the current day,
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  Speaker 5: and then in to do that, she has to take
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  Speaker 5: something that is innocent and turn it into something sinister
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  Speaker 5: to make the point and also to say that this
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  Speaker 5: is actually an example coming from a character, a male
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  Speaker 5: character in the film that she likes. So it's like
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  Speaker 5: this guy who is like a good man in the
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  Speaker 5: movie still made this. You know, it's not that he
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  Speaker 5: made an error, but he's sort of making a statement
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  Speaker 5: about the absolute state of men in general, you know when.
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  Speaker 6: He makes that joke. So there's layers of manipulation happening,
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  Speaker 6: is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not so sure. I'm convinced about that he's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily throwing other men under the bus. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: just making a joke on treating something that is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a serious issue with a little bit of flippancy, is
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  Speaker 1: what I was talking.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I get it. But he is supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be the good guy. He's supposed to be the guy
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  Speaker 6: she gets.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, he can't have these flaws because it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: work as a romantic comedy.
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  Speaker 6: This is the problem with I was talking about this.
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  Speaker 6: Because we're talking about fiction, we have to like understand
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  Speaker 6: that the characters were written for a specific role that's
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  Speaker 6: going to have a specific purpose and a specific outcome.
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  Speaker 6: This guy gets the girl or the girl gets him.
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  Speaker 6: Because it's sort of like these films are usually told
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  Speaker 6: from the perspective of the woman, so that women will
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  Speaker 6: want to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, but regardless, she is being deceptive. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe it isn't because you get the humor, but she's
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  Speaker 1: definitely working with the assumption that her audience won't be like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that just tended to be slightly humorous, right, It's
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit of a humorous understatement. Okay, but no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we have to take it strictly literally. And then we
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  Speaker 1: also have to ignore that it's not like women's attitudes
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  Speaker 1: towards men's consent is better. Let's be honest, dear, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's finish this off.
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  Speaker 6: All right, there's more of this time code than okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, where did you say? Because you asked me and
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  Speaker 4: he stayed with zero expectations, there's no you owe me.
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  Speaker 4: There is also no other guys would have or anything
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  Speaker 4: to make himself seem better than this. Is what we
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  Speaker 4: call being a genuine good person as opposed to a
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  Speaker 4: nice guy who is only doing things that are nice
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  Speaker 4: in order to be owed a body. And the next scene,
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  Speaker 4: whether at their first proper dating.
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  Speaker 1: This is really going to get interesting is as she
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  Speaker 1: evolves her thesis and the double standards. Yeah, because maybe
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't reveal it too quickly, but I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: people can can guess what she thinks about women who
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  Speaker 1: give without receiving receiving. Let's keep going, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Lunch, she reveals her childhood trauma, which meant that she
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  Speaker 4: can't cry or my parents sent me down and told
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  Speaker 4: me that they were breaking up.
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  Speaker 1: You haven't cried, SINTI fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well, he's perfectly comfortable in his masculinity. To
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  Speaker 4: be honest, I cry all the time. You do not, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I do. Sure, he's also trying to make her feel better,
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  Speaker 4: but there is no facad that he's trying to keep
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  Speaker 4: up with this stoic man.
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  Speaker 6: It happens to be the truth. Are you kidding, lady?
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  Speaker 6: This guy is fictional. He has written this way. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 6: I just yeah, sing guys like this don't exist. But no,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that, but like this is literally this
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  Speaker 6: guy is a let's say, an ideal feminist man.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I'm saying that this movie was written by feminists.
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  Speaker 5: This is the ideal feminist man they got, like the
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  Speaker 5: guy who was like the hot guy for movies to
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  Speaker 5: be in it to play this guy. He's funny, he's charming,
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  Speaker 5: he's got an English accent, he cries, he's sensitive, he's
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  Speaker 5: got all of these qualities. It's like a Hallmark guy.
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  Speaker 5: He's like a Hallmark movie guy. And then this woman
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  Speaker 5: is saying, why aren't more men like this impossible person?
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but also does he actually cry in the movie?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I never seen it, because.
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  Speaker 1: If he doesn't actually cry in the movie, he's just
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  Speaker 1: saying this to make her feel better, to privilege her
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  Speaker 1: emotions in this moment, like that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but she would say that that is Briarty would
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  Speaker 5: say that if that was true, then he.
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  Speaker 6: Is only doing it because he's trying to get in
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  Speaker 6: her pants.
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  Speaker 1: Yo. Of course he is.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, he can't. That would be bad.
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  Speaker 5: He can't, that can't be The reasoning.
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  Speaker 1: Is, of course he's trying to get in her pants.
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  Speaker 1: So what we we we reproduce male and female comes
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: together to reproduce. This is a given is also probably
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: trying to get in his pants. And they're all trying
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to navigate all that social rules and minefield around that
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: who cares? Like, why are they at war with basic
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: aspects of being human. Oh my god, a man has
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: a sexual feeling towards women, Like, so what good freaking
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: why do you are at least keep going?
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: She doesn't think, look, okay, let's just keep going. Birthday
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: called a week.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: He is instead interested in her work. He is asking
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: her questions. He wants to create a connection. It is
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: back and forth throughout the whole time.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: It's not just stop, wait, but is it? Though it
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: sounds like it's just him like trying to get to
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: know her. She also giving back. I mean, that's not.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Important, Brian, why are you even mentioning the No, it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it's all about what he gives her, not not not
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: what what she offers in return. That's not important. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: mean it's it probably is in the actual original show
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: because it's a rom com from when they weren't completely awful,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: but you know it. But it's not relevant to what
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: she has to say about all of this. So it's
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: not an interaction that's mutual, nor does she point it out.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's simply he is there to make her feel good,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to powder her butt cheeks, whatever she's He's there for
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: her and with no ulterior motive known whatsoever.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's just it like his nobody. That's what
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: she calls it, an exchange. But it's clearly one sided.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: But okay, based on the clips that she puts out, well.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, like I said in the original, it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: probably not this one sided, but the clips are what
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: she's choosing to frame for a ideal relationship. I think
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: we can get it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: I got a rumble rant and then you can give
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: you the next time code.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: A Noba fan gave us a dollar and said, even
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: if she is not dumb. I've noticed this a lot
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: in the media literacy crowd. Apparently they think humor and
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: subtlety is merely a mask to justify being a terrible person.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: All right, I think that. I think a lot of cases.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I know you're maybe Byrony isn't doing this, but I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: think a lot of these people hide an inability to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: pick up things intellectually behind self righteousness and bad intent
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: in another people. All right, So are we at seventeen
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: seventy two yet?
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: No, I can go there now, yeah, seventeen oh one,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: So I'll just go to seventeen o two.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You said at thirteen no, no, no, If we're only
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: at thirteen oh one. Let's just keep going, all right.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: It's not just all about her, it's both of them.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: And then after the date, it is very clear that
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: he wants to go in, and he does make a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: side comment about it, even when you don't.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Did she say that it's not all about her?
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Be said that it's not all about him?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, never mind. Then let's keep going that that was.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Ever again, we're talking about a fictional dream boat character.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We're we're we are. We are investigating a fictional depiction
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: from a rom com for information about real life. This
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: is a real interest.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: This is what she does. This is all content, I know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: and it's it's all again.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: It's picking from like a distorted version of reality that
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I guess appeals to women or for whatever reason, even
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: if it's like torture porn type stuff like mad Men,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: where it's like men being bad to women, Like it's
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: like women like like this, like they want to because
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: they want to justify a worldview and they find it
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: in their.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Fiction because it doesn't exist in real life. Anyway.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, keep going.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: She's on she usually better to have it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: But he doesn't say I bought you lunch. I stayed
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: with you when I didn't even get anything in return.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: He doesn't do any of that stuff. He understands that
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: he's in a complicated situation, as we're going to get to,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and she is also in a complicated situation.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Now Myles has changing to the other couple.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's here's the issue. Okay, so they're both in
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: complicated situations. So fair enough, he doesn't want to take
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: it too far. But that's actually it's it's probably normal behavior.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: When you get these really really uh high strong interactions
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: where men get angry at women for taking advantage of them,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it's because they've been strung along by a woman who
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: has literally taken advantage of them. Right, this is and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this is honestly, we reframe this in a way that
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I think is very deceitful towards action happening. When men
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: take women out and give them things in the concept
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of courtship, they don't do that because this is a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: neutral and platonic activity. They do that because they believe
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that a future relationship is on the table. So when
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: women lie about that, that is deceitful and it is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: not entitlement for a man to say, hey, if you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: are lying about how genuine you are in engaging in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: courtship with me. In courting me, then I don't feel
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like I am obligated to continue to give you courtship
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: behaviors back. Women like this, women like Byrony, refer that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to that as entitlement, which is it's absurd because if
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: women were the ones engaging in the expensive courtship behaviors
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: with no reciproc reciperc reciprecacity from men one percent, she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: would say, yeah, it's it's you are entitled to get
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: something back for that. Rm hmm.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: That is her position.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: If women invest they're in.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Time, men would be stealing something because women literally go
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: on dates to just get free meals and they have
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: no intention of doing anything else, and they have this.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: They can do this because if the men complain, then
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: they get to frame them as in this way, well
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: you're objectifying me and all this, and of course other
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: people will stand up for them. But there are women
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: who literally make it a point to get free meals
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: out of men, and then they have no problem with it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: They just they'll go on dates with men under certain
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: circumstances to get free meals, and no one is supposed
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: to think of that in any way negative.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: We're just supposed to be like, well, that's life, guys.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: It's not fair, you know.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Let's just finish this off. You don't have
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to believe me, but I'm working towards a thesis with
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: these time codes?
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: Is there more with this time code? Should I play
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: the black part with just thinking of I don't remember
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: her name? Thirteen thirty one?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Sure, all right, Jasper in the form of Maggie. He
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: could have so easily been the nice guy that we're
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: used to struggling with.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: Why do we always fall for the bad girl?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Both of them have been in a bad relationship with
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the same type of person.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: I can't believe a girl like that would actually be
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: with a guy like me.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Then he realizes how depressing he's being and says.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to ruin your Christmas Eve.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: You don't have to listen to this.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Iris is the most caring person on the planet and
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: reminds me very much of my best friends. She tries
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to cheer him up, wanting to help him by relaying
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: her similar experience to him.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: But I actually know how you feel.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: And notice him he is interested in what she is saying.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He is listening intently.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Understand you Who the heck is she talking to?
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: What?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Is there a huge body of men who when they
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: go on a date with a woman, don't actually listen
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to what she has to say?
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Is that the big thing that's going on here? Apparently currently?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I have my doubts. I seriously have my doubts. But
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we well know?
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: But I mean, like if you if she's pulling all
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: of her sources to basically like have a conversation about
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: how men can do things right, and she gets that
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: from fiction, she probably gets all of her bad examples
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: from fiction too, which is why she often quotes or
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: like takes, you know, from shows like Mad Men, where
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: she tries to demonstrate misogyny.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: And then I don't think she talks to normal humans.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: But I don't think so, I know, so I swear
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I think that she is the definitional culture junkie that
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: just watches content that supports her worldview and just like
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: get and and that's it, like just does that and
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: repeat and then she makes videos about it. And if
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: it's something that is supports her worldview about men, bad
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: then that's what she pulls from and she uses because
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it's all in that's all she does. Like it's all
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: her movies and TV shows with like misogynistic men written
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: by people who hate men, or it's like these rom
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: coms that have like these essentially unicorn men written by women,
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: like this movie was written by a woman.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: By the way, the script.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: For this it's actually it's honestly like listening to and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I know this is going to cause some some irritation,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but it's like listening to a white nationalists reference Birth
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of Nations to explain why they they hate a minority group.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's like and so they're essentially referencing a media piece
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that is specifically designed as agit prop against a group
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of people to justify their dislike of a group of people.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And she's of course not I don't know if she's oblivious.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe again, you're right, she very much knows what she's doing.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: She doesn't care, she's just leading her audience. But that's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing here. This woman is referring to anti
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: mail propaganda to describe why men are so bad. Yep,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: well what do you expect from anti mail propaganda? And
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: then you have the rom coms where men are ridiculously idealized.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Not always, but a lot of the times. This particular
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: rom com probably isn't as bad as one that I watched, like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of years ago. It's more
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in the recent vein of a rom com where the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: woman does nothing to earn the man at all and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he bends over backwards for her in every conceivable way,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and that's played off as healthy. I'm like, whoa that is?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean it would be Byron, he would
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: consider that healthy. Okay, let's keep going.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: All right, more of this one then, Yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: This is a long time code, but it basically lays
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: out her entire thesis. It ends at about seventeen I mean,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it ends at sixteenth of seventy. It's this whole chapter, yeah, okay,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: playing out what she expects from men. She's going out
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: what she's expected me.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, And this is important. She shared how much
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: that hurt affects you, and how in the hell for
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: that brief moment you could think that you were that happy,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and also the slow and painful healing process, and you'll
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: meet people who make you feel worthwhile against and in
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: this moment what does he do?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: You need this more idea?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: He connects her right back to her and it's there
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: for her as well.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: That's what you're doing here, You're getting over somebody.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Instead of getting angry that she made it about her
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: or anything, he recognized, what are.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You talking about? Who are you comparing this to? Like?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: What manner in your life? She is? That her husband? Okay,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't have married a narcissist, my.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Dear, I don't think that. I don't think you don't
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: think that's what's happening there. No, I think that guy
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: perpetually walks on eggshells. If I had to guess his
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: life is a nightmare, I couldn't do it. I could
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: not do it. Why don't you just.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Go right at the bat say okay, well, this is
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: obviously not normal male behavior. Are you kidding me? A
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: normal male behavior? I mean the men that haven't yeated
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you and every other damn feminist out of society, despite
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the fact that you constantly are manufacturing a hateful narrative
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: against men like I don't know, dude, I think men
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: are pretty damn tolerant, and I'm pretty sure that a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: normal man would probably say, hey, seems like you're more
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: stressed out than I am in that circumstance. If you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: felt that it was true, Who the heck is? She
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: dec well, I know what it is. She sees the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: charts that show that men have stayed center left, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: she looked at that, and she says, that means they're
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: horrible people who would never care about another person, that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: have an inability to have any compassion towards another premium
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: being either. Do you think that I'm right about that that?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: She just looks at the chart. She says, right, yes,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: center right. Have you seen the American one? It's center left,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like maybe center extreme right in South Korea? Everywhere else
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is center, okay, UK center left, the US center solidly center.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So she's looking at men who have just sort of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: milled around the center and saying, oh, those are far
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: right extremists who couldn't possibly care about another human being.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Right, And that's regardless of them, Yeah, regardless of any
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: of that. They do, they that's true.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: They yeah, that's what it is, because women are the
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: ones that are moving really far left.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: And yeah, they're.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Going far, far, far left, and the men are not following,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: and they're like, what's what why, what's wrong with you?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Don't you believe the good things? Aren't you a good person?
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: I guess you're not. And that's really what it is.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that's what she's thinking of
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: when she thinks of the average man. Whereas for me,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of about the men that i've actually, you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: known in my lifetime, right, And I'm pretty sure if
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I were in that situation and I was demonstrating some
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: some pain, they would pick that up and be concerned.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what strain of men outside of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: her husband that she has slathered herself in. But this
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is not like the act, like the thing that she's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: comparing this to. The average man that she's comparing this
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to and giving this lecture about it doesn't exist. It's
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: just an ugly stereotype that she's made up. And I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: think the reason why she does this is because what
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: it does is it it's presenting men as not this way.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: No, men are not like Jude Law in this wrom CA, right.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: They don't look the average man doesn't look like that, right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: The average man looks more like Jack Black. But in
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: my experience, and maybe I'm wrong, men do care quite
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a bit about women being in pain. This is not
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: something that they're indifferent to. So I don't think this
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: behavior is really that unusual. Like the the issue with
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: rom calm men is somehow they have the witty, debonair
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: rascally charm of a narcissistic person with a narcissistic personality
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: disort with a man with a narcissistic personality style or
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a sociopathic personality style. And they also are kind and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: they're there and they're with you and want to they
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: want to make sure you feel good. And they are
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: also rich, and they also look like Jude Law, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: they also are a ninja surgeon, assassin and time Lord.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Don't think it's Some of these things are plausible. You know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: having the scintillating wit and confidence of a narcissist or
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a sociopath, you can get that in a narcissist or
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a sociopath. A man who actually genuinely cares about you,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you can get that, And a conscientious man who probably
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: will be slightly awkward on your first days. So I mean,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: those two things are possible to get, and it's not
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: as possible to get all of that in one man.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And if it is he's married to a woman who
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: is a lot better looking than you, And I mean
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that to any woman listening. No, no offense. Okay, let's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: keep going.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: She was doing relating to him and connecting with him, like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I get what you're going through. I've been through this too.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: We can get through this. He can see the issues
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: that she's been down with and has foxic twisted situation ship, so.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: That makes it impossible to forget him, which is for
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: him but sucks for you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: And she can see the issues that he's been dealing
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: with this girlfriend who did not give a toss about
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: him at all. Things have made a lot easier from
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: an outsider perspective to see exactly what's so screwed up.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: And then he decides that he's going to cheer them
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: both up.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I'm making you some feather, chinny, and we are going
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: to celebrate being young and being alive.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Iris.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm just pausing there. I don't I don't want
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: to like incite the censorship gods.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, known as the nice guyline. You really are
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: an incredibly decent one, I know, so it's been the problem.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Now this is what nice guys can say A lot. However,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: he is a genuine guy who isn't doing this with
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: an ulterior motive of sleeping with her. He's not trying
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: to do why would you doing that?
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well wait a minute, though, Like I think that the
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: problem with this line of reasoning is it's completely subjective.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Like if a man said the exact same thing and
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: his expectations were a little bit more out in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: open or at some point came out or whatever, then
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: this whole thing about making a special exception for this
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: guy is out the window.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Like it's like this whole nice guy thing.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: It's just a weapon that women use against men that
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: they don't actually like, but they want something from. So
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: like they pretend that they're interested, or they get those
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: men interested, and then they get them to give them things,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: and they don't say, look, you know this isn't going anywhere.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I just want you to know I'm not interested, none
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: of this upfront shit because they don't want to become confrontational,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: so instead they just they take the whatever goodwill these
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: men have. And if those men get the impression that
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: there's like a connection that they're trying to pursue, I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: they're the only ones that are taking risks here, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: this just gives women plausible deniability. Women like this, So
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: she goes, well, he's sounds.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: Like a nice guy. But because I know how the
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: movie ends, I'm gonna be okay with all of it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna forgive everything, I'm gonna make excuses for it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: But if the if, the if the fictional character was
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: just written a different way, then this would say a
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: completely different thing about men in real life. This is
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, this is like nonsensical arguments, And
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: she's making excuses because she knows, because the character is written,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: she knows where the story goes. So she forbikes, she forgives,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: and then she says, well, this sounds like a thing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: But it's not like those awful, awful guys that call
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: themselves nice guys. Again, I think that the overwhelming majority
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: of nice guys are just guys that are maybe a
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: little socially awkward, or they you know, they're not really
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: good at reading the tea leaves or whatever. But I
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: don't even blame them for that. Like, it's it's not
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: an easy world to navigate the dating world.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: It's really not. Because women give men nothing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: They give them nothing, and then they and then they
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: get mad because men approach they give them nothing like no, no,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: like ability to understand what is right and what is
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: okay to do and what's not. And when you ask them,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: they'll just be like, well, just don't rape us. It's
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: like no, stupid, Like people want to understand what is
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: the appropriate way to approach a woman that you're interested
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: in without making them call the cops on you, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: then there's no answer, and they like that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: They like this idea that men are always on the
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: back foot.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: And so this is why, by the way, it's probably
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: the largest reason why men are just checking out. It's
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: probably the largest reason. And Brierny is not making things better.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: And of course she doesn't want to because she's got
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: what she wants.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then now she gets to destroy a whole bunch
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of other women's ability to form a partnership. Yeah, Like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: let's be honest, like this is this is driven by
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: intersexual competition among women. I should both, I should pull
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: up my little perplexity conversation about that, read it out
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to you guys at some point. Alright, let's finish this.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: All right, to get her into bed or feeling like
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: she owes him at all. He does get interested in her,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: but doesn't feel like she owes him for his niceness.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: They both go to support Arthur and help him gain confidence,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: and of course the music can pose of Miles chinky.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: It sounds like it, and I'm sorry, but this transition.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Absolute well, that sounds like you, my little heart. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: used her only the good notes.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, he likes her very clearly, but there is no
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: pressure put on her. You know that. I believe in
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: complexities and nuance.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Now ten just know how to play an instrument, guys,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: just like do everything. Even the mid dude, the kind
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: of frumpy dude has like qualities that are difficult, Like
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: he's funny because Jack Black was funny back then, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: he knows music and they use that. And she's like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: oh my god, I'm so charing.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Where are more men professional musician, actors and comedians when
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: they're not absolute stud muffins? Why aren't all men this way?
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: But you know, women are held to really crazy standards. Guys.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like that the whole thing. Well, Danny DeVito, Yeah, Well,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Danny DeVito is a famous comedian and millionaire.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: He's Danny DeVito's Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a random guy who
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: looks like Danny DeVito.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: No, you know, there's a difference between looking like Steve
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Buscemi and being Steve Bushemi.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. You know.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Well, that's also constructing a narrative, because it really like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: they want. What she's constructing is a narrative around why
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: men aren't worth it. Basically, men aren't worth your time,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: men aren't worth your effort, because that's why she has
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: this this she's comparing these men to this invisible, extremely constructed,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: negative average man. And yeah, in some ways, like an
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: average man is not going to be a professional musician,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: he's not going to be a professional actor, he's not
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: going to be whatever Jude Law is supposed to be here.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean the average man isn't going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: care about how you feel. In fact, that's probably the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: definition of what makes an average man better than the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: sociopaths with their sociopathic personality style that charm you and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you all seem to gravitate towards, right, is that the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: average man will care about your well but what your
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: well being? Okay, so that's reasonable. So the thing that
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: she's doing is she's being sort of deceitful about what
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: makes these characters attractive. She's saying it's because they're being nice,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: when if you look at the statistics, it's because you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: jud Law probably has a higher than average incomes, very
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: good looking, very charming, right, has that ability to give
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the feeling of having a narcissistic personality disorder without necessarily
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: being one. Right, and then also Jack Black charming position,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: et cetera. These men are not average. So right there,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: women who say I deserve that are hitting well above average.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And it's not that. The fact that these men are
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: kind is not why, and and that's that's the thing
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: that's different than the average You see what I'm saying.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: The thing that's different between Jack Black and Jude Law
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and the average man is not the kindness. It's the wealth,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: it's the unusual skill, it's being able to be charming
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: without necessarily being a sociopath. It's all of these other
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: things that make them distinct from the average man. But
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: what she's saying is what makes them difference is the kindness.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And that is bullshit.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, that's the end of that time code.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Whereas okay, wait are we seventeen sixteen?
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's the end of that time code.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let me take a look and I will
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: find the next timecode. Just give music. I gotta go
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: over to my little perplexity. Okay, sixteen seventy five as
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: where we're at now or where we are twelve, Okay,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I'll go to sixteen seventy one.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: All right, wait, sixteen seventy one. That's not a thing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Steen fifty. You're right, that isn't a thing.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: All right. Beer mongering us into submission is what this
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: chapter is called.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Now you know me and my age is am the
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: content that I talk about a lot. So I looked
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: into this as well, and the American Psychological Association said
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: a number of studies at link stress with shorter telomeres,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: a chromosome component that's been associated with cellular aging and
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: risk for heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. Your early life
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: actually determines a lot of this.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, did we get into the wrong. This
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: is sixteen fifty.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Well, and yeah, that was sixteen fifty.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep going. Maybe it gets to at so equally. Yeay.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: If the person carrying the baby is dressed, this even
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: affects the baby themselves. In other words, be kind of
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: depress the people, increase government support pregnant people, society as
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: a whole.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: No, it wouldn't. She doesn't.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: She has no plans on having kids, by the way,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: and she was trying to make the case against women
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: having kids, like I think there was some clip of
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: a guy saying, well, you know, it's what women are
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: designed for, and she was offended by that scientific fact.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I hate to tell you, but men are not designed
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: for it. And it's funny too, because sometimes, well a
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: lot of times women will brag about their ability to
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: have babies but also resent the ability to have babies.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: Weird, isn't it slightly?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dingle, women over the age of thirty five were
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: more likely to be by a terrorist than to get married.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Hey, that was horrible.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It's not just I love this movie. I am debunking
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: this for everyone's benefit.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: What the hell? But you don't want single women to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: get married, so what does it matter?
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean if you do. If you do, there
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: are no men that are good enough.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's your point? Why do you need to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: de monk this when it should be perfectly fine that
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: your entire audience will never get married, Like isn't that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: what you're going for? Make them feel good about the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: fact that they have listened to you to the point
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: where they're completely unmarriageable. Man, Okay, all right, I think
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: that this is going a little bit into the weeds.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: Is this not the right? Yeah?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I think this is good into the weeds.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Basically, this is like fear mongering men men fear mongering
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: women into becoming wives and mothers, because that's the only
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: way women will have kids, by the way, is if
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: men terrify them into it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Just terrify them.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Basically. Basically, everything that feminists say patriarchy does was essential
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to actually perpetuating the human species, was it? Hey? All right? Okay,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: good as.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Second, we have to be against all of that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Fifty teen fifty all right, I think this is correctus.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: The stat sounds terrifying, right. It was a throwaway quip
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: from a reporter that the editor included, She's been caught
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: in the same panic that happened to all women of
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: this time. Think about people like Bridget Jones, the Sex
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: and the City characters, all of whom were slightly fearful
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: all the time. There was an undercarrent of panic, always
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: in a.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Place alone means you don't need a man.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Everyone needs a man.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: That's why I rent. If you own and he's still rent,
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: then the power structure is all off. It's masculating. Men
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: don't want a woman who's too self sufficient. I'm sorry,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: did someone just order a Victorian strager?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Okay? What was this supposed to prove?
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: A section of the city is a show about real
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: women in a real period of time, and they had
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: real it was all real, Aleison, I don't know what
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: you're talking about.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, enough of this digression. This is ridiculous.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Let's give back on track, all right. So basically, what
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: she's done with her segments on what makes a good
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: guy is genuine man gives care, time, protection, attention, with
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: zero expectations and no sense that the woman owes him sex, affection,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: or even gratitude in proportion to what he gives. Not
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: even gratitude, guys, not even a thank you, any hint
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of I did X, therefore you owe me. Why moves
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a man from genuine good guy to nice guy in
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: her framework? Okay, now let's go to the next part
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: where she warns women about crumbs. These are the time
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: codes where she tells women never to accept a one
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: sided giving and to cut off men who do what
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Graham and Miles are morally praised for. So we just
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: went through her praising of Graham and Miles giving without
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: asking for anything concrete in the return six twenty.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Six twenty six.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, six, it's a little bit going back and forth,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: but I'm laying out a thesis here, so six six
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: six twenty three.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: Sorry, so it's like right here, mm hmm, okay, that's.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: The number two. The idea of you is always flawed.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Amanda is our workaholic woman who gets told off by
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: him man who is jealous of how much she works.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: If I work a little bit too much, I never
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: stop hearing about it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: I don't think you ever really loved me.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: How's that?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I need to love the idea of you.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: And me not so much need How many relationships have
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: you seen struggle or completely break down because the idea
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: of someone doesn't match up to like that reality because
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: oh my goodness.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Not ev and movies?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did What was his side of this argument?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Like if a woman had said, who complain if I'm
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: if I stay late at work, you know, or if
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: a woman had said or had said. I a man
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: had said to a woman, you complain when I stay
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: late at work. There needs to be a bit more
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: there before it becomes illegitimate, right, See what I'm saying,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Like I'm staying late at work because I'm paying for
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: your new dining set or something. There has to be
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: something more, because, honestly, workaholism is an actual legitimate complaint,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: even if it's directed towards the boss. Babes, Just looking
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: at that does not necessary doesn't give you where to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: fall on the argument. But of course she's going to fall.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: We know where she's going to fall, So let's let
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: us continue, all right.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Think of Charlotte and the doctor from Sex and the City.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: She had her checklist that she was going through and
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: thought that he would be able to fit the bill
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: of the sort of life that she wanted to lead. Miserable.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: She loves the idea of him, but not actually him.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Watch this video from Ola in case you haven't seen
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: it yet, linked below. Ted Mosby is the pinnacle of
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: this because he projects all sorts of ideas onto every
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: single woman he ever meets, like the idea of this beautiful, driven,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: successful woman, but the reality is that she is just
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: like him. She is dedicated to her work, and that's
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: a problem because don't you know women need to dull
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: less sparkle in order for their man to be able
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: to shine.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You just don't want to be this Okay, okay, yeah,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: But so they were both incompatible because they were both
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the same type of person. So as Jude Law far
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: less ambitious and driven for the character he's playing, far
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: less ambitious and driven, like, it's an interesting setup to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: have this woman be incompatible with the reverse type of
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: man than she is, right, you know, like her mirror image.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: But do they even go into it. Hmmm, no idea,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: all right, no, let's keep going.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, he said it, all right, there, you are
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: not warping yourself to be what I want. Therefore I'm
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: in the right for cheating on you.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're the only woman on the face in
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the here to break. Oh okay, there you go. It
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't even she had a tear.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: So Amanda gets a seat spasms instead.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I'll be all right, I know, I know, I'm thinking
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: about me.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Of course he would.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: But he's like the guy that he's supposed to be
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: again fictional character. He is literally the guy that she
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: is supposed to break up with, and there give the
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: movie written by a woman is telling you these are
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: all of the qualities I hate. This is why this
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: is break This breakup is justified or whatever. This is
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: disintegration of the relationship. But like, yeah, Edward Burns, that's
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: the guy who plays the boyfriend. Yeah, he's a He's
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: gonna say all of the wrong things over the top,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: so that when she goes and meets with Jude Law,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: everything is like, you're you don't feel bad, you don't
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: feel like she's cheating.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: He was a good man.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: That would change the dynamic of everything. So again we
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: have to see this guy as like the worst possible boyfriend.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: And then Brian, he's pointing out it look at that
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: that's guys, isn't that so true?
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: It's like, no, that guy doesn't exist.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: He's made up. M M anyway, I'm sorry. It bothers
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: me because like I wouldn't.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It just bothers me, like people like
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: pointing at fiction and then saying this this is emblematic
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: of reality, Like dude, get go touch grass, like, go
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: and talk to real human beings.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no real understanding that this is all
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a passion play, specifically a passion play for women. Okay,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: so so we're basically analyzing a porno, right, you know,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like it is about as emotionally authentic as a porno.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Like rom coms are as emotionally authentic as pornos. They're
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: just for women, and we're analyzing it for understanding the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: depth of human connection. There's something seriously wrong with that. Sorry,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I gave you the wrong time code. Go to two
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: fifty six.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I have to say I hate how long coms are
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: not taken seriously because the acting and this is absolutely impeccable.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: This is the most beautiful fake cottage you've ever seen.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: Is this really the time coach?
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: She yeah, she reads Playboy for the articles. Guys. The
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: acting is impeccable. Yes, it's acting by definition?
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Is like why why is again the boy? So like
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: to set up the plot, you have two women. What's
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: what's the name of the chick that played Bridget Jones?
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Does anyone remember anyway? You got the Bridget Jones lady
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: or is she the lady from Titanic? I don't know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: but go ahead, we got we got the lady from Titanic.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: I think it's the lady from Titanic.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: And then you have Cameron Diaz and they're both they
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: both have bad experiences with men. I guess there were
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: men they were like going to marry, so they were
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: with them for a while, which is also strange because
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: you would think that if these men were like bad boyfriends,
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: they would figure that out before they got engaged or
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: their relationship got too serious. And remember these are all fictional.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: So a woman wrote this story. A woman said, I
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: want to tell a story where a woman gets into
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: leaves a bad relationship that's really abusive or toxic or whatever,
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: and then finds a good man while she's on holiday,
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: because I'm gonna call it holiday, and that's what it's
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: gonna be about.
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: And so Rufus.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Sewell and Edward Burns are the bad boyfriends. I like
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Rufus Sowell by the way, I liked him in Dark City,
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: and so yeah, they're the bad boyfriends. So they have
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: to have all of the worst possible traits that the
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: writer thinks men could have, which is actually like really
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: over the top, like he like, I guess he shows
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: off like Rufus Sowell's character shows off like another woman.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: At like a big public thing like a party, and
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: he probably just doesn't give a shit that this happened.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: And it's like there's it begs more questions like well,
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: why didn't she know this early on?
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Like why didn't why wasn't she paying attention? Was she
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: just like all all in on this? Like why is
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: it written this way? There's nothing about this that seems
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: believable to me, and yet Briarty is like acting.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Like this is just so good. I'm sorry, but it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: about as realistic a Hallmark movie. We're porn, and Hallmark
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: movies are at least like somewhat generous to the X,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: you know, in terms of like the reasoning behind things.
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: So anyway, I'm just Kate Winslet, thank you, renee Zelweger.
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know which one it is. I think it's
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: I think it is Kate Winslet.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: I think Kate Winslett is the chicken this she was
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: also in that what was that movie with Jim Carrey,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: The Beautiful Mind movie pisses me off anyway, So.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, okay, let's finish off this time code all right, Yes,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: This isn't even real.
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: To the whole area and didn't quite find the chocolate
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: box college she's looking for, so.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: She just hired a field and threw it and built
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: tom Beart.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I know this moment is so dark. I love the
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: way that she says point no, point, no man ever
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: is worth that kind of pain, Sis, bread Crumber. It's
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: all about the ego, the knowledge that they've got power
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: over someone that they barely have to pay any attention to,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: and they know that they'll always be there waiting for them.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: It's like having a backup that you really do not respect.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: This finally tramps people, and Iris displays us the most fully.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: How do I reach you? This dude is fully engaged
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: sending her messages like this. At this point, Iris needs
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: to just reach out to his fiance and tell her
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: who he is, because he is a menace.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Instead, she's like, hey, all right, well yeah, if she
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: had an ethical core, that's exactly what she did. In fact,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't be texting somebody else's fiance at all, but regardless,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: let's set that aside. So essentially, what she said is
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that women shouldn't give without reciprocation. Did you see the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: exact exact opposite messages that are coming out here. Men
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: should give without any expectation of reciprocation, relationship gratitude. Women,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: if they give, they should get something back. Big, big
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: double standard. I don't even I don't even know if
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: we need to continue with this one, because she's just
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: kicked herself in her own ass. You'll call up well.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: With her own ass. Yeah yeah, I mean, but that
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: is like, that is how this goes.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: This is what they do, right, and this well anyway, Yeah,
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: so let's what move on to the other video.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I'll give this summation. So she essentially tells women that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: accepting that same dynamic giving loyalty, emotional labor and availability
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: without any commitment or can concrete return is exactly what
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: traps them, and that they should nip snip and refuse
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: clump crumbs. We can go to nip snip if you wish. Six'.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Ten the six' ten mark is where the nip snip.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Comes in, all right this Is what this is what.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: She says if you're not getting anything as, a woman,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: she says, go ahead, all right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Go ahead they showed you exactly where the. Party lies
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: why go back because you think that's the one does cut,
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: them off and you are not a spare and you
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: do not need to wait around for the crumbs that
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: may fall from. Their plate how do you?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Do that we'll. Get that men should really. Men should
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: men should be in a holding pattern. Around women and
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: if they even want to, have reciprocation even if they
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: quietly think while, She's hot i'd like to bang her
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: up against, the refrigerator they are, the, Problem right they,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: are secret nice guys that deserve to be pelted with
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: dog pieces like this is this is. Her attitude women
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: don't you'll, be withholding don't give without, Getting right but
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: men you give and give and give and give. And give,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: You're right, You're, right brian his her husband is living. A,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: nightmare okay let's let's move on to the, next ONE because,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I could, I could, I can
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: i could do my complete summation of this this video
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: for you guys while you pull up the.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: Next the of the.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Single woman or let's let's take a Break From byrony
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: claire and go to.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Rainbow, shite okay.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Rainbow, shite yeah let's do some. Rainbow shite this Is
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: this we're gonna be moving into more of a political,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: statement now so essentially, for men this. Is byrony, for men,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: give care time and emotional support with. Zero expectations don't
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: even have them in. Your, heart guys you should Be,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: like buddha capable of simply radiating loving kindness with no
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: intention of any kind of. Nefarious interest attaching expectations makes
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: you a nice, guy villain not a. Good guy and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: make sure that you don't feel them somewhere. Inside, you
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: right you should be A comp you should be wanting
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: to help, this woman give her everything without having any
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: particular attachment to her. Or expectation and, for women do not, give,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: time care and emotional support without getting something substantive, in
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: return saying that staying in non reciprocal situation is a
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: symptom of damaged self worth and must be. Cut off
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: so apparently men should have damaged self worth and women
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: should value. Themselves more these two rule sets cannot both
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: operate symmetrically in the. Same relationship if a man follows
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: her ideal and gives freely with, no expectations he becomes
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: precisely the sort of one sided giver she tells women
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to cut off as breadcrumbs. Or deadweight the moment he,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: wants reciprocosity boundaries or any. Concrete return so she is
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: teaching her audience to kill their relationships because if she
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: if they start to have a relationship with someone with
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: a man and he wants, a commitment or he, wants
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: gratitude or he wants anything, in return, she's saying you've
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: got to. End that he should want, nothing, right nothing
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and you should give any instant that you are expected to,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: do anything end. It right and if you are in
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: a situation where he, requires anything it's like he's violated.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Your soul so she's basically teaching her audience to destroy
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: their romantic prospects to ensure that, they're alone because there's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: no way they can. Navigate this there's, no path there's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: no Path on byrony's shit show where you can go
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: from being potentially in a relationship and into maintaining. That
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: relationship there's only death to relationships that she is. In,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: this okay, All right so let us move on to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the next. Double standard have her rainbow shite okay fourteen?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Seven fourteen so rainbow shiites VIDEOS Called i Left, the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: left and it's her reacting to women on social media
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: making videos about why they stopped walked away, from leftism feminism,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: or communism, and okay so what was the, first?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Time, coach okay just give me a sex educated? With
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: them why they're thirteen, seventh fourteen?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: All right or why they were never one of?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Us anywhere and also this is this is, Anti communist so,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: she's this this whole shtick is communist. VERSUS capitalist i
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: know it's a bit of a digression from double standards
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: between men, and women but, not really so let's, do it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: All right and also just SOMETHING that i have to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: ask all of these people who say stuff like THIS
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: and i like famongering about like communism and being like
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: communism is bad they're working on?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: A takeover do you know what? Communism is do you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: know what?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: Communism is can you tell me what communism is and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: why you think it's bad without just saying because the government,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: told me because THAT'S what i was told my? Whole
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: life do you actually know what it is and what?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: It means do you even know what capitalism is and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: why capitalism?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: Is?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: Good like why is capitalism good and? Communism bad why these?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: Two beliefs tell me what they are and why you think.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: That all stop. And stop we gotta, answer this but
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta delve into the comedy comedy. Gobblty
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: goog why is communism bad because it's failed every time it's.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Been tried because.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't because it doesn't have. A, meritocracy right
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: it gives people based on need instead. Of merit but
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the problem is that that incentivizes lying about, your needs
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: whereas if you, incentivize merit you actually get productivity that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: elevates everybody's standard. Of living and that's so, you know
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's. Another, thing also because whatever communism, you spouse
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you still need a. Scapegoat, group yes, you do because
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: the instant you start talking about, men's issues suddenly your
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: communism goes out the window like some kind of preacher
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: came at you with a, freaking cross and it just
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: like it leaves you like the Spirit. Of Satan. It's god,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: so yeah it's if your compassion and you're concerned for
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: people is conditional on their, genital configuration you're not a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: compassionate and. Concerned individual and let's see what else, not
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: engagement and every communist regime ends up having to destroy, civil,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: liberties right so you end up being impoverished in terms.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Of freedom, and also what we have now is this
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: weird socialism where bureaucrats make up shit about us in
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: order to justify control and taking. Our money is, that?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Really like is that a? Better system is that a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: better system where we have, these unaccountable self righteous religious
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: bureaucrats who have this belief that they are better, than
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: us which justifies taking our, tax money taking away our,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: free sorry it justifies taking away our freedom and then
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: giving us. A bill the problem is what, this facilitates
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: what this incentivizes, Communism LIKE and i was thinking about
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: THIS when i was thinking about capitalism. Versus communism the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: difference is what capitalists versus communists will do. For work
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: capitalists will do a job. For money communists will lie
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: their ass off, for money and they will manufacture needs
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: that they don't. Actually have so what ends up happening
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in the system is It's NOT and i know that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: capitalism isn't perfect right and definitely we're in a late
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: stage of something. Right now but at least it's incentivizing
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: people being productive people doing things that other people need them,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to do and then we'll give them money for what
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: is communism incentivized except either sucking up to the people
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: who have money or have, material goods or lying about
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: your needs in order to get. Material goods and you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: will never convince me that communism is GOOD because i
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: have ACTUALLY been i was Actually In, soviet russia and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that was the worst experience, of, no well not the,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: worst EXPERIENCE because i have been, through bombing but it
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: was in the context of something that's supposed to. Be
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: peacetime it was the. Worst experience they. Were grindingly it
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: was a grindingly. Depressing place it was a grindingly. Depressing
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: place and the proof is in. The, pudding okay THAT'S
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: what i have. To say so the proof is in what.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: In incentivized but. HERE'S okay i didn't necessarily want to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: get into a discussion of capitalism. Versus COMMUNISM what i
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: wanted to point out is that she can't define the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: arguments for the other side. At all she can't engage.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: With them so what she does instead is. She moralizes
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: let's go, TO.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: Well i wanted to say something earlier in.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: THIS video i don't know where the time code is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: she or maybe, it's AFTER but i think it's BEFORE
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: this i thought something interesting HAPPENED that i thought was worth.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Putting, OUT also i got a RUMBLE ran i.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: Should read but she, said that, you know these people
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: are like saying that there's, a Secret secret communists are
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: like trying to like infiltrate and. Subvert everything and then
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: she goes, and, says actually it's not secret. At all
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: we're all, right here we're basically telling you what. We're
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: doing don't you, believe that, you know aren't you a?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: Decent Person and i'm just, like, Interesting right because Would
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: a nazi be able to? Do that Would a nazi
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: be able to go on YouTube, and, Say yeah I'm.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: A nazi what You think, I'm hiding i'm.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: Not hiding what happens to people who even like vaguely
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: try to, Do that they get banned on, every platform
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: even people Who, aren't nazis people who Are not nazis, At, all,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: okay good banned because people think. They are but communists
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: can come out and just, Be yeah i'm, a, communist yep.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: Right here all Of, bread tube they're, all commedies they're different.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: KINDS whatever i don't believe in the multiple flavors, of
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: communism JUST like i don't believe in the multiple flavors.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Of feminism it's all the same shit. To me but
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: it's really interesting that a communists can just say it
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: and say it proudly and nothing happens. To them and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: this is this is actually endemic of something that happened.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: To me so Back when twitter was Owned, by well
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: back when It, WAS twitter i Had a twitter ACCOUNT
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: and i would post on THERE and i was GROWING
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: and i had a lot of friends and making connections.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: And whatnot and then ONE day i basically just.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: Said something that is, absolutely true which Is that Nazis
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: and communists are basically the. Same shit they're cut from
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: the same cloth and they just have slightly different views
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: on what their totalitarian regime. Looks like And the communists
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: were pissed off, at me and it was the tweet
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: of all the STUFF that i talked about men's. Rights
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: online that was the thing that got me Banned on
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: twitter WAS that i BASICALLY said.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: I don't like Communists. Or nazis that was that was,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: my SIN and i.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: Still don't i'm not, a FAN but i do think
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: it's fascinating that communists can just be.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: Communists online it can.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Be communists wherever there's, communist bookstores there's, you know fucking
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: communist rock bands that. Just exist nazis couldn't, do THAT
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: and i think that, that's interesting that's. VERY telling, i
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: Mean in germany you can probably be. A communist you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: can't even say anything About The nazi Party in germany
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: without getting your life destroyed because they feel so much shame.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: For THAT and i just think.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: That's INTERESTING so i wanted to point that out That
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: queer kiwi is not like flirting. With communism she admits,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: to it and she's proud, of it and she thinks
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: that it's something that everyone should aspire to and that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: is just a. Good thing, of course being a woman
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: of a, young woman she doesn't have to actually face
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: the consequences for any of, this stuff because a lot
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: of these, common women they are, just like, you know talking,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: shit online trying to get men, to, COMMIT oh i,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: don't know actual assassinations on, their behalf some of which
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: have actually come.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: To fruition but we're still just supposed.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: To, be, like yeah you guys aren't the. Violent ones
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: you just care. About people you're the. Caring people you're
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: the good people that believe the good things some of.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Their scapegoat groups and people who disagree, with them because
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: that's that's good.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: To do it's good to have escapegoat groups and attack.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Those SCAPEGOATS like i.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Would say that this might get me and crosshairs of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: a lot, of ANGER but i think that she actually
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: embraces what she considers to be far right stereotypical far.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Right views it's just that what she doesn't like is
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: that behavior with people who are on the right or
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: fiscally conservative. Or libertarians they have a set of principles
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: that they feel like should be applied, to everyone and when,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: those principles so basically it's you have the option to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: succeed in, the meritocracy but you have to own your
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: successes and. Your failures so there's a recognition that people's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: actions and choices have consequences that are potentially negative and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that they should suffer. Those consequences and she looks at
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: that and she considers it to be callousness and disregard
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and a lack, of compassion except if that attitude is
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: directed towards her, scapegoat groups then it's not even. Harsh enough,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: because so, for example if women end up being impoverished
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: due to their. Own choices that is an injustice that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: needs to. Be fixed if men end up being impoverished
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: because of their, own choices not only is that something
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: that men, should endure they should also be taking responsibility
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: for the system that put them in the position in the.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: First place so not only do men should men suffer
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: the consequences of their, own actions they should also be
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: blamed in shame for the consequences of men they have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: no actual. Control over so it's like she takes this
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: concept of the expectation that you live with the consequences
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: of your actions, and choices and if it's applied to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: her groups that she thinks should, be protected she sees
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: it as callous. And wrong if it's applied to the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: groups that she doesn't care about or she thinks should,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: be punished she considers it. Not enough you See what,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: i'm saying that it should be. Even worse like so she's,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: not like is that an, Ethical, system no it's not an.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Ethical system it's a tribalist. Belief system the good people
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: deserve the, good things and the bad people deserve the,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: bad things and the bad people are our. Scapegoat group
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: so why are they your. Scapegoat group is it because of, Their,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: actions no it's because we. Blame them we blame each
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: individual person in our scapegoat group for the criminal actions
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: of the minority of criminals in, that group and for
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the actions of people that, you know our elites in.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: That group so we essentially blame men the actions Of criminal,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: we say men have the intentions, of criminals and they
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: have the ability of, elite men and they deserve to
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: be condemned as. A group so instead, of, saying oh
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: we'll judge men by their individual actions like people do
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: on the right or with more, CONSERVATIVE values i think
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: those values are. Now conservative used to be more that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: they were, just liberal. But whatever now, she, says no
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: they aren't. Judged enough so all the things that she
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: would consider to be lack of compassion lack of consideration
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: are not are reframed as justice when they're inflicted on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: the group she thinks. Deserves it and that's the Problem
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: with commed's they don't like that's literally.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: THE problem, i mean aside from the mass murder and.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: The starvation, oh yes tens of millions of people in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: the but that's also the fault of the. Capitalists, somehow yeah.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: But listen To what, I'm. Saying brian this is my
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: own condition for justifying all, of that which is the,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: bad people regardless of, their actions my. Scapegoat group doing
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: anything to them, is, justice right and you can't question
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: that or you go in the scapegoat. Group too that's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: what's horrible because communist thinking leads, to THAT and i
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: have to sit down and really go step by step to.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Explain it BUT intuitively i. Understand that so hopefully you
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: guys are picking it up to, all right let's.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: KEEP going i got a RUBBLE rant i didn't read
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: Before From nova fan twenty one and gives a dollar
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: and says if they were, actually smart then they would
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: realize a lot of the time it's the women's fault
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: for irresponsible chasing bad.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Boys and lack. Self reflection, oh WAIT just i. Just.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: Realized lol that was in reference to the. Last, video
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: okay so what you want to keep playing? This timecode
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: or is there?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: Another?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: One yes keep? Playing it?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: All right they cannot give you an answer.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 7: To that it is just because they've been, Told that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: and then they turn around and say that we're the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: one to sheep and listening to everything everyone is telling us,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: and Go if i'm, anti capitalism obviously that's not, what's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: happening considering we live in a. CAPITALISTIC society i don't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: know food the. THOUGHT there i think it's NOT really,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: i mean we.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: Don't really we don't live IN what i guess we
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: live in a society that you would. CALL capitalists. I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: don't i don't like the. WORD capitalism i don't. USE
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: it i BELIEVE in i think it's just. Property rights
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: and we don't live in a society where we actually
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: have property rights to the degree that would that without
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: like government interference of.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Some kind we. Just don't it's a mixed economy for the.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Most part the point is that she's saying here that
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of anti communist conservatives cannot explain what
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: communism is or why it's bad beyond because the government
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: told me and frames them as. Mindless sheep go to nineteen,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: forty four and this is where she starts talking about
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: ex leftists all right in.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: Places that have like more mixed politics. Or whatever that's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: sort of when they come out of their shell again as.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: Being conservative and my QUESTION that i have for them
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: in that instance is that, it's like are you genuinely
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 7: actually like holding conservative values in like a political way
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: where like you know what the conservative politics are and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: what they, stand for or are you conservative in the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: way that it. Protects you being a conservative just means
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: you don't have to care, about anything and that includes
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 7: not even looking into.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Conservative, policies lay.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: Give me a.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Fucking break your entire your entire thought scape scapegoats half the, human,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: race right, and honestly the intersectional pipeline is basically having
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: to care about the least amount of. People possible let's,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: be honest and it's all about. Virtue signaling just be.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Okay anyway so essentially what, She's saying i'm trying to keep. This,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: meta essentially what she's saying as anybody who opposes her
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: is morally illegitimate and criminal because they lack any kind of.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Human compassion so she basically, is saying there's me and
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: the people who BELIEVE like, i do and then there are.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: The demons they're.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: The, orcs, yeah yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: That's, it okay, All right so and, she, says okay, She,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: implying okay she suggests many ex leftists who become conservative
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: or really just moderates who don't enjoy having to care and. Know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: THINGS again i implying that conservatism is primarily a refuge
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: for the lazy and intellectually indifferent that replaces engagement with,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: conservative philosophy philosophical or policy arguments with a. Personality diagnosis
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: so she's a good people and she believes the good
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: things everybody else's orcs that just don't know what they
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: just they're just lazy and they. Hate people this is,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: her politics and she has the audacity to charge other
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: people with being black and. White thinkers she has no
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: concept and THAT'S why i brought up initially the whole
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: like water. Level test she has no concept that other
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: people might know things that. She doesn't but of course
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: she's entirely humble and she's she's a good person who cares.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: About, people yeah it's not an, intellectual position it's not a.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: Rational position it's just like a.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: Moral position like, To her i'm not saying that, it's
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: right but it's what she frames.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: It moralizing it's.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Just good people who are the good people who Are
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and i'm the. Good people the people who agree with
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: me are the. Good people and she probably doesn't even
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: understand how important freedom of conscience is because she is.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Denying it, you know this is what. She's doing she's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: denying freedom of consciousness to anybody but herself and people
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: who agree. With her and. She doesn't she probably doesn't
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: even know the history of how bloody these kinds of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: wars where people stop respecting each other's freedom of consciousness
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: get conscience gets where we stop respecting our right to
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: believe as we as, we do like that that people
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: have different. Belief systems. She doesn't she probably never even
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: cracked over in a history book and even understands the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: level of absolute horror that she's playing with right now
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: by denying people their right to freedom. Of conscience, you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: know it's all just a game to. These, women, yeah
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: okay and go to. FORTY six i think that might
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: be the. Right One, Six yeah i'll double check to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: make sure that this is the. Right, One, okay, YEAH
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: yeah i.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: MOVED up i moved to forty. Forty, SIX basically, I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: know i'm just thinking like.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Forty, seven, thirty sorry forty to.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: Forty yeah forty.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Seven thirty having to cross references.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: And the way that they lived, their lives and they
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: will do whatever it means to continue to feel, that
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 7: way like.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: IT'S something a lot of these.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: Ex leftists share this idea that when they were on,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: the left they were constantly angry and upset and like
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: just so full of rage and needing an outlet and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: to yell, at everybody and was pushing people away and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: making them, really unfriendly and that, they were, you know
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: ashamed of who.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: They were they were like living in.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: This victim mentality that made them feel small and like
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: they couldn't. Accomplish anything all this does is spread light
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 7: on the fact that they never truly believed in, these
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: things and they never actually internalized the point, they.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah there they never actually believe, these things.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Like yeah because like being being a feminist is nothing
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: in being a victim house and that's it's got.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: Nothing, Point okay well let's.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Find out what is the point that they did, not internalize,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: my dear.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: What it is we, are saying because they never cared
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: to actually look at what it was what we are, Actually,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 7: like yes what are you saying to be on the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: side that fights?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: For, compassion, no no don't.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: Give it's hard to fight on the side.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: That's compassionate this Is what, I'm saying like it's always been,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: this way it's always been. This way and it's not
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: just it's not. JUST leftism i hate to break it.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: To you liberalism is like. This too, liberalism, Is oh i'm.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: A Liberal i'm, I'M like i believe the? Good things
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: do you not believe the? Good things and it's it's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: a lot of hard work to under to humble yourself enough,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: to say you, know what actually there's a lot of
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: fucked up shit, over here AND maybe i shouldn't be
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: so like self Assured that i'm on the right side of.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: These opinions but these people they.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: Take it to, the extreme like, they're yeah it's compassion,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: like basically, you know.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: The exclude like the whole thing about excluding. The outgroup
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: those people. Aren't people so when they, say compassion they
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: only need for their people for.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: The, party, well yeah this is by claiming that they
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: are the, compassionate ones they can basically eradicate the humanity
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: of anybody who disagrees, with them which.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: Is great, Because compassionate but of course. It isn't it's.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: All fake but this is.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: A Digression so i'm still waiting for her to tell
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: me what the, deep, gnosis like what is the deep
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: WISDOM that x leftists. Don't get let's keep going on
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: It to exist in a world where you are constantly,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 7: noticing bigotry like when you are constantly, noticing inequality and like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 7: you say take a stance and like live your life
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 7: trying to care about people and, trying.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait wait wait waita but not your scapegoat groups
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: and not people who don't agree. With you you don't
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: have to care. About them so you're constantly. Witnessing bigotry
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: so maybe they're right that, they're, SAYING well i always,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: felt angry so this is their effect On the so
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: basically what you're saying is that this is, the effect
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: but you shouldn't care, about it like you shouldn't be concerned.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: ABOUT it, i, mean ultimately this is an. Emotional argument
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: we're not talking about whether or not this. Is correct,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: but still what is? The nose what's? The WISDOM like
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: i feel again this is getting a digression into oh
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: you have to, Do, this well what is the great
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: insight that, you say people who are ex left ther
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: conservatives aren't getting about? Your position has she? Covered it let's.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Keep going i'll give her like, another minute.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 7: All right not just, for yourself but for everyone like
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 7: that is hot it can, be.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Yes that is how is it?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Doing? Anything what how is it doing anything? For, anyone
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: well we're just sitting, here, like well Just, recogn, okay no,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: never mind let's. Keep going it's still this still doesn't
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: feel like she's conveying, a, wisdom right just, saying well,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: you gotta. You gotta everything is misogyny and you've got
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: to point it all, Out, right okay where's the ultimate wisdom?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: In this where's? The insight where's? The, nuance like where where's? The,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: beef okay just give her a few. More seconds, all
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Right let's.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: I'm trying you. Keep talking i'm trying to get. Through,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: this okay let's.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: Keep going set, and, LIKE no i am making the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 7: world better for other people than be comfortable and. LIKE
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: ignorant i would rather live in like frustration and anger
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 7: and upset than. Comfortable ignorance they say ignorance is bliss for,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 7: a reason like what you ignore will not, hurt, You
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: right like you can sit there and turn away from
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: it and pretend that like women, on oppress you.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Can, you know for somebody who thinks they, aren't ignorant
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you're sure as hell can't articulate, Your, position.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: Well no one's exactly making, her articulated since she's just
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: standing in front of a. Camera, talking yeah this is a.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Fucking philipbuster somebody should you know, You could you could
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: probably filibuster with some of the best damn, politicians there
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: because this is there's there's no content to what. You're
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: saying you're. Just bullshitting, and again for somebody who is
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: so sure that they have the essential kernel of wisdom
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: at the center of the of the of the experiential onion,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: like you if you're just coming out with more and
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: more streamers of Bullshit And i'm i'm starting to Feel
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: like i'm this is a. Lost cause, like her insight.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Isn't there the insight is that you're perpetually supposed to.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Feel BAD but i think really you're perpetually supposed to
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: make other people, feel bad and that is, the insight
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: and somehow that all of this collective making people feel
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: bad is going to result in. Something good That's what
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: i'm getting from her not sending.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Their best he's not she's not exactly like the he's
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: no contra points, or whatever the best of.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: Bread tube she's, just yeah. SHE'S not i don't think
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: she gets to it at. Any point she doesn't actually
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: like she, just says, you know if you're angry and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: you're and you left, the left it's it's obviously because
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: you don't know what the. Left is you don't know
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: what we, stand For and i'm not going to. Tell
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: you that's that's all. It is, like you, You know
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: i'm not going to. Tell YOU but i do know
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: that it makes me a better person. Than you THAT'S
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: what i know, for sure and. That's, Why kay that's all.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: It is and maybe she just not able to. Articulate
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: it but there is something about like never having to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: actually like say what you, stand by because then you
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: actually have to stand. By it so instead you just
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: say something like bumper stick or TALK like i believe the.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: GOOD things i am a good.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: Person and if you, oppose me that makes you a
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: bad person and that lets me.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: Dehumanize you, so.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Yep yeah it's so funny how often they use this
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: as an excuse not to extend compassion for such. Compassionate people,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: All right, so okay she, All right so she says
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: these people have, no evidence, no facts, just yelling and
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: that their behavior fuels, the rights because this is, x
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: leftists because right wing Figures Like charlie kirk can. Easily embarra,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: oh no, all right so this is uninformed leftists can
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: easily embarrass. Uninformed leftists so her thesis is that these
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: ex leftists were uninformed and if they had had the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: special gnosis that, she has they would have remained informed
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: leftists because but because they're, uninformed leftists they get trounced,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: by people or they did while he was, still Alive
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Like Charlie kirk kirk Or perhaps crowder with his change
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: change my. Mind right so what she's saying is that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: it is actually ex leftists read conservatives who never, got
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: it never grocked the true essence of what is she,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: she believes which she apparently can't. Articulate herself they are
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: the ones that made it so that right wing figures
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: could out. Argue them so everything is. A conservative everything
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: you can lay at the feet, of conservatives even the
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: left's failure to argue, its point because the real people
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: who are failing to argue their points are actually covert
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: conservatives that don't understand. The, left yes she never gives
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: an example of herself engaging in with a well prepared
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: conservative interlucre questioner and successfully defending her position under that.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Higher bar so what she's essentially doing is she does
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: state at one point a good standard that you should
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  Speaker 1: be able to explain an opposing view and why you disagree.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: With it so let's. Let's go let's go see what
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: the standard that. She holds everybody else that is not
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: her and the people who believe as she. Does too
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  Speaker 1: so go to eight. Oh five, all right eight.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, five yes.
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  Speaker 7: If you are going, to university you have to be
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 7: open to learning things like going to university to just
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: have your beliefs that you already have reinforced. And validated
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 7: like what are you? Even learning what is the point
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 7: in going to the university if the only pepys of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 7: you being there is to be surrounded by people who
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: agree with you and a family belief like you're meant
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: to be learning and expanding. Your WORLDVIEW and i just
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: don't understand what the point is if.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: We're talking to this is a three.
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  Speaker 2: Year old if you, don't agree at least learn why you.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: Don't. Agree right if your professor says he's, a Communist
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 7: well i'll keep.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: You, wait okay learn why you. Don't agree so apparently
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: you don't agree with people like me because.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: We're orcs well only because you haven't officially. Like converted
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: because that's what it means to. Get educated this is literally.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: Educate yourself that's all.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: It is and by, the way if, your professor, she
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: said if your professor says He's, a communist ask. Him
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: why so if your professor says He's, a nazi you
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: should become curious and ask why and try to understand
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: and READ my coomf and like, get in, you know
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: like really give it a shot before you pass judgment
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: because maybe you, just you maybe you just don't understand.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: Your professor he's smarter, than you so he's got to
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: know something that you.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: DON'T know, i mean trust the experts and the science and.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: All that I'm just i'm just, putting it just putting
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  Speaker 6: it in.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Your, terms, Yeah yeah and honestly that they don't re
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: realize that there is a very. Strong parallel communists did
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: not respect freedom. Of conscience and that's what you get
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: when you don't respect freedom. Of conscience and that is
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: just as vile a thing to do as to persecute
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: prosecute people or for biological factors that they, can't, change which,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: funnily enough this particular branch of communism does both because
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: it also. Escapegoats men so it's got it's got sort of,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: both nastiness, no lockdown people don't have freedom, of conscience
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: and we also have a scapegoat group based on. Biological
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: factors we just refuse to acknowledge. That anyway but my overall,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: point is look how she's counseling people who are not
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: communists to ask questions about communism, you know and not
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: none of. The thing you know everything, you know and
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: figure out what the differences between you and the people you.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Disagree with, for example she's found out that the difference
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: between her and the people that she disagrees with is
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: that the people she disagrees with are demons who don't deserve. To,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: live oh, Good, grief okay, let's uh let's let's go
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: to the, best part which IS possibly i think it's
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  Speaker 1: a fifty to, forty TWO but i got a double,
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  Speaker 1: Double check so go. To two i'll. Double, check okay we, need,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Like yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm there, i'm there play shit.
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  Speaker 2: BATSHIT tiktoks i have ever.
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  Speaker 1: Scene so, all right, let's okay yeah at, this, point,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: no no this. Is good this. Is good this is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: exactly where we needed.
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  Speaker 6: To be, yeah, yeah, no right, so Yeah let's i'll
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: read this part How the democrats will Convince you trump
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: curing cancer is bad from the mind of A. Former, democrat, Okay.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Well trump is right.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: About y'all he could literally cure cancer and somehow people
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: would find a way to hate him.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: For it and as a former leftist.
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  Speaker 3: Who was d in the left, HIS mindset i know exactly.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: How they would. Do it the first thing they're gonna
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: do is question. His motives they're.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Gonna claim that this cure for cancer is just some
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: kind of. Political play all he's trying to do is boost.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: His image then they'll Claim that trump is trying to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: claim victory and take the win for something that wasn't
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: even done. By him they'll say it was the researchers
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: and the institutions that are the only reason why cancer.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 8: WAS cured, i.
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  Speaker 7: Mean this point is so funny to me, because, yeah,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: LIKE yeah i am gonna do That was trump himself
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: in the.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Lab cure like when You say Trump, could.
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  Speaker 6: God okay more of this take you literally but not.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: Seriously, stuff okay, uh YEAH so i guess we'll listen.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: To this do you mean that literally was in this?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: Hypothetical Situation was trump in the lab whacking with? The
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: scientist was he the one who like made the? Discovery
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: himself he put it all together and like created the?
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Cuolfa cancer is he the one that? Did that because if,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: he WAS then i will give him credit.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 7: For THAT obviously i would, Be, Like, wow trump why
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: are we find?
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: For counsel because he absolute wouldn't be the.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: Only, person firstly there's been like decades of work going,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 7: into it so it Does.
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  Speaker 1: What okay maybe time is this the wrong?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: Time, code no it's the right.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Time code it's just that she's probably gonna winter on
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: this for. A while why don't we go like thirty
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: seconds into, the future see where?
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  Speaker 2: We're at not a biology that's not something that he
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: can keeps? You going is putting munch?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: Shut up what if let me ask, you THIS because
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: i think that She's missing what that woman's, point was
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: what if a scientist that Isn't the president Of The,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: united states but a scientist who is a supporter of the.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: President discovered cancer the cure, for Cancer and trump essentially
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: like helped, you know bring that into being either financially
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: or gave him staff, or whatever hooked him up with
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: whatever resources he needed so we can.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: Do it, and yeah he, would say my administration takes credit.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: For this so what it seems a little petty that
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: somebody could be like A Cured aids and, you're like
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: why are you taking all?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: The?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: Credit though what about the guys who helped you? Do
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: it when you just be happy HE? Cured, aids yeah
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: wouldn't that be? Good enough that's because that was, his
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: point because this is referencing a speech he made when
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: he first took office in twenty, twenty five and he,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: WAS like i can't make you guys happy no MATTER what.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: I do and he, basically SAID if i, cured cancer
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: you would still hoopoo. It SOMEHOW and i FEEL like
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: i can't really work with. You people and that's what
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: it comes, down to because he can't because they don't
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: want to work with anybody because they. Have enemies this
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: woman is, like that, you know this was like the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: REASON why i feel like they have to be really
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: skeptical if we're going to get, anything done, like say,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: you know building a shelter or something like that if feminists,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: are involved because feminists don't.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Want us to get.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: Our way they want to control the money and the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: power that is involved. In that so if, they say well,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: you could why don't you guys we used to get
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: this all.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: The time why don't you guys work? For feminists because
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: feminists don't want to work with us because they they
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: actively want to undermine what we're trying.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: To do and, so, like yeah we can't win. With
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: them they still, hate us and we just have to.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Keep going so this is the. Same thing so that's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: basically what, this is, You know like it's just silly that, she's,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: saying well he's not, A scientist, like yeah but who gives?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: A shit like if he did, something good whatever, it
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: is that's what, she's saying you wouldn't give him credit.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: FOR it.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean and then they go through like another argument
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: about how if it was a, Private solution so if
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: it was a solution that corporations got and the government
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: didn't force us all to, take it then it would
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: be some kind of of injustice because there they might
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: not be rolled out. Everybody immediately people who are able to,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: afford it might get.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: It first they wouldn't make it free, for everybody because,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: you know nothing.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: Costs anything. Mm hmm we're back on the cap.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: The communism, shit then which is like why communists never
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: cured any tremendous DISEASES that i, know of because there
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: was probably, something, like well if everybody can't, use it.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: Then nobody can. Have it it's basically what, it.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Is right, so yeah just to scan through and find
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: where that conservative speaker, speaks Again because i'm having trouble
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: with the, time codes, All, right yeah just.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: Look at they're. Really, precise no they're never never really
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: you have to like kind of watch them.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: And, stuff YEAH and i think you gotta go, out there,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: you go there's back back a bit really fun Hypothetical.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: That trump's cure is a luxury for the elite and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: that the poor are just left to suffer.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: Once, again yeah because that is. What happened please please
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: explain to me how this. ISN'T true i will.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Sit here what isn't true is that it's possible for
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: people to understand incentive structures and realize an overarching good
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: is to continue to incentivize the production of cures by
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: giving the people who make them some kind of a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: reason to. Do. So right so it's like my, argument
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: initially what do you incentivize in a communist system versus
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: what do you incentivize in a system that respects property
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: right or respects the idea that a person who labors
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: should get money for, that labor that we should apportion things. Through,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: merit like what do you incentivize in these? Two systems
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: it's the, same thing what are? You incentivizing it's like
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: she doesn't understand the concept of incentive and how that.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Shapes things and then she turns around and anybody, who does,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: she says you're a demon because you don't care. About,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: People now byrony might pass the water, level TEST but
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: i am not sure. About, rainbow oh rainbow, shite Here.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: QUEER kiwi i would not put on it that she
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: could pass the water. Level Test, everything like her thinking
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: is so black, and white so, good people, bad people
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: so unaware that people exist within systems and the incentive
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: structures of those systems are important to maintain in order
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: for people to because, you know the people talk about
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: the waste that is in, like supermarkets they throw out
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch, of stuff, and yeah it is really.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: A problem but the issue is that it happens because
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the system itself creates so, much abundance and if you
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: start to take away the incentive structure that's creating all,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: this abundance you may end up with substantially more poverty
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: than before you started. Doing that and this is something
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: that you have to. Think about that things have, trade,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: offs right things have good things and. Bad things there's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: no just. Good things and It's this this woman thinks
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: that just wanting to have just good things means that
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: only just good. Things, Happen right so she's better than
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: everyone else because she's willing TO say i just want.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Good things, well great how do you realize that it's
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: it's an attitude that's completely ignorant of how. Reality, works,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: okay yeah move on to the scan for the next
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: time they because the next one is the, really yeah,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: the woman the woman who has a. Brain talks it's just,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: and okay there, you go.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Even a republican thing like that's just not happening in.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: Your country then the real extremists are going to start.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: Coming out the fringe people are going to start coming
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: in and saying that curing cancer is a moral hazard
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: that curing cancer will encourage people to.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Participate in this is where her argument. Really bites this
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: is where her argument, really bites because it's showing SOMETHING that,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: i said as soon as you target the, right people
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: all of their rhetoric around compassion and absult like saying
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: that you can't say that the person deserves the consequences of,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: their actions all of that. Rhetoric dissolves so and they
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: immediately go into this kind of revenge. Based, Thinking right
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: so you see if the whole argument here that she's,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: You know i'll continue letter finish, AND yeah i know
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: anyone who. Interrupted finished they can just be saved by.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: A cure they'll start making arguments like people can smoke
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: cigarettes for twenty years knowing that it is damaging their
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: health and getting, lung cancer and then they can just,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: be cured so. Who cares they'll start saying that the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: cure to cancer has incentivized unhealthy lifestyles and that is
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: going to lead to the uptick in other, animal diseases
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: which in turn is only going to increase.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Medical cost what are you? Talking, about, Yeah okay i'll
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: tell you what you're, talking about. Dumb ass i'll tell
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: you what you're talking about once we are talking about your,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: scapegoat group which includes all of the people you, disagree
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: with or you're talking about recognizing any benefit that your scapegroat,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: group creates like and We're using, trump here But really
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: trump is a stand in. For men he's a stand
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: in for anybody who disagrees with, these people no matter how.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Slightly right once you start talking about your, scapegoat group
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: immediately all of your compassionate rhetoric goes out the window
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: and you start embracing what you would, term extremist far
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: right rhetoric about. Your targets that's what, She's saying and
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: what she's saying is that if one of your black categories,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: cured cancer you would start spouting out what you think
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: right wing talking pards. Parts are you would start saying they. Cured,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: cancer well that just means that that people are gonna.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Be irresponsible you're taking away. A consequence cancer is a
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: consequence for, people's choices people's, bad choices and people should
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: live the consequences of. Their choices we shouldn't be making
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: it so that people are saved from the consequences of,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: their choices which is precisely what you would call, an
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: extremist well what you would stereotype as a far, right
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: opinion but you would instantly slip into it because you
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: can direct it against something that your black category. Is doing.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: That's good you Get what, I'm. Saying, Brian yeah so,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: all there they have the same attitudes that they attribute
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: to extremist far. Right people it's. Just it they think
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: it's justified to have those attitudes when it serves their,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: tribalist ends which, is scapegoating, bioca biocat basically, scapegoating men
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: scapegoating people who believe don't believe the way that, they
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: do scapegoating the. Other. Tribe right so, this woman she
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: sits there, And says i'm. Very compassionate and why does she?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: Say that because it gets her the right to strip
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: all humanity away from everybody else that doesn't agree. With
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: her what a compassionate? Human? Being huh and she just
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: demonstrated that. Woman's point if somebody in her black category did,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: something good she would immediately pivot to, how well maybe,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: not her maybe she maybe let's let. Her, Finish sorry i'm.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: Just explaining i'm explaining you want to listen to we's,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: response then or just.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 7: This is the final time code for queer PERIOD because
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: i hate to be the one to break. This year
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 7: but this is actually a conservative talking point against universal.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: Health care, so like, you know we the left are
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: the ones who are advocating for universal. HEALTH care I
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: mean i live in a country where that, exists already
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: but You know.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: I'm advocating for it.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 7: For you we are the ones who want accessible health care,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 7: for everyone no matter where, you are who, you, are
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 7: whatever you should be able to get the health care that.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: You, need yep that should be available.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 8: To you.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: Absolutely shouldn't cure should include the cure. For cancer that's
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 7: literally the entire thing we. Advocate for the people on, the,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 7: right however they don't think health care is. A right
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: they don't think everyone should.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Have that so she just doesn't engage with. THE argument
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: i wonder if you.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: Even, understand oh she's just back on we believe the.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: Good things even though even though universal health care is
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: not a right because it is essentially enforces other, people's labor.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: It's sleeper it is, like that like what is slavery
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: is slavery is making people do, work right.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: Like without like the ability to. Refuse it so it's
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: enforced by.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: The state that's what universal when your positive rights are
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: BASICALLY what i call positive rights are rights that have
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  Speaker 5: to be where you have to use someone else's resources
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  Speaker 5: or labor to like or services for someone. Else's behalf
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  Speaker 5: so when these people say housing is, a right food is,
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  Speaker 5: a right healthcare is. A right that's all other, people's
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  Speaker 5: property other, people's labor other. People's services. That's slavery that's not.
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  Speaker 5: A right a right is something that is protected that
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  Speaker 5: you already had the capacity, to do, Like speak you
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  Speaker 5: should be able to say whatever, you want because it
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: should not be restricted by. The state right things that you,
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  Speaker 5: can do like your the right to your bodily autonomy
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: right so that you can't, be assaulted that you can't
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: be mauled or mutilated by. The government, of course the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: government does that to boys when, they're babies and they.
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  Speaker 5: Conscript men so like those are actual rights that. Men
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  Speaker 5: lack but the vote's not. A right the vote is.
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  Speaker 5: A responsibility it is a privilege because it affects, the
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  Speaker 5: world it affects. Your country but people, like this they
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  Speaker 5: don't make. The distinction, I'M sorry i just wanted. To
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  Speaker 5: clarify when she says universal health care is, a right.
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  Speaker 5: That's slavery you are advocating. For slavery you just don't
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: want to see it, that way?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: Did? She okay so she, states like HERE'S what i
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to get out was the double standard in. The
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: hypocrisy she says that you should be able to explain
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: an opposing view and why you disagree. With it She
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: says christian Students to christian students that have a professor says,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: he's communists they should ask him why and have that
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: conversation and find out what communism is and why you disagree.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: With it and if after all that, they, disagree fine
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: but at least they were open. To learning she extorts
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: her viewers to extend, your knowledge deep in, your understanding,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: ask questions, be inquisitive and come to a conversation with
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: facts and points and something you strongly, believe in or
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: else you're going to be. Tripped, up okay she's saying
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: all these things because they are the, Good things but
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: when you look at, her behavior her stated metric is
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: that deep understanding requires one knowing what the other side,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: actually argues two being able to summarize, it fairly three
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: having specific, factual counters but when she tackles concrete right,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: wing positions she repeatedly mischaracterizes them or attributes left wing
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: positions to, the right where she reveals scapegoating and lack
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: of freedom, of conscience misaligning her own side's talking points
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: to the. Other side Her extended trump cure is cancer
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: hypotheticals especially revealing she reviews the conservative tiktoker's claim that
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: the left Would oppose trump curing cancer by saying it
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: incentivizes risky behavior and. Unhealthy lifestyles she ridicules this as
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: and then says this is actually conservative talking point against universal.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Health care she frames the right as the side that
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't think healthcare is a right and says leftis who
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: want a cure available, for anyone no matter who, you
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: are which is broadly accurate as a. Self description so
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: far this, is fair but she insisted if a cancer
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: cure came out through private companies and was expensive and stratified,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: by class that this is, literally, discriminatory elitist and, worsening
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: inequality and that there is no other way to possibly.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: View that she treats the sweeping moral reading as self
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: evident rather than a contested normative claim, about markets, insurance
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: design and. Distributive justice the rhetorical move is any nuanced
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: worry about unintended consequences of medical technologies or system design
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: is simply, the, rights cruelty and, profit worship worshiping incentivizing people. Being,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: productive essentially there is no intellectually respectable concern to be
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: had that erases legitimate debates about resource allocation risk incentives
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: by moralizing. Them away these cures don't come. From nowhere
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: people have to risk to. Create them moralizing disagreement is
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: lack of care. Or compassion she says she would rather
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: live in frustration and anger than, comfortable ignorance and that
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: ex leftists stop caring about, people hurting take the stance
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: that it's easiest for you but harder, for others and
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: will do whatever it means to keep. Their, comfort so in,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: other words she moralizes about people who disagree. With her she,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: flatly states you don't care. About others see everybody who disagrees,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: with me they don't have compassion because. They're DEMONS and
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: i can tell by the fact that you now live
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: your life ignoring the pain of other people because that
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: is what is convenient. For you this is not an
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: argument that conservative or moderate policy positions. Are wrong it's
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: a claim that holding them demonstrates moral failure and a
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: lack of concern for suffering that collapses freedom. Of conscience
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: different people waiting trade offs differently into a binary of compassion,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: versus cruelty where she shows superficiality, and scapegoating pathologizing entire
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: groups instead of. Addressing arguments she does this whole proud to,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: be white then, she says there's nothing to be, proud of, you,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: know honestly it's probably more solid to say that anything
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: to do. With men this woman. Pathologizes men whatever one
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: thinks of. Those claims she does not distinguish between white,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: identitarian movements ordinary or ethnic or cultural pride For Example
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Irish American, polish american and naive phrasing, by individuals nor
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: does she engage in the opposite worry the forbidding any
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: positive identification with white can drive some people into explicitly
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: racist groups that do offer. Such identification she substitutes a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: sweeping moral classification for. An argument, so basically it's kay
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: to be proud of anything but. Being white why while
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: you're racist for? Simply asking she asserts that ex leftists
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: were always conservatives playing, a role and that their entire
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: leftist life was about purity and moral, high ground and
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: that they never care. About anyone this makes their introspective accounts, of,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: discomfort shame and confusion into mere retrospective excuses without considering
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: that people can honestly misinterpret or over apply left wing
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: ideas and then recoil using not really leftists as a
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: No true. Scotsman move, she says if your beliefs are
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: entirely put upon you by other people and you are
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: just spewing, out phrases you aren't actually a raging live,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: or leftists and later that these ex leftists are never
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: on the left and were conservatives playing at being. A
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: leftist and again remember when she said they hadn't figured
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: out what leftism. Really was never she never articulated any kind.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Of anything she just went on and on and on
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: about basically framing leftism is exactly what. They said it, was, discomfort,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: shame confusion and. Constant anger but you know that's good
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  Speaker 1: because something's gonna happen out.
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  Speaker 8: Of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's good that allows her to find any negative data
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: about how left coded rhetoric is experienced or practice by
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: some adherents becomes disillusioned with. Left activism they were never.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Really left if someone is harassed by, left activists those
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: activists which is performative and do. Not count this is
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: a standard, immunizing move not a serious. Self critique she
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: repeatedly claims that the opposing side cannot define its own
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: labels or justify its economic and, political views but does
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: not present any primary right wing arguments in their strongest
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: form or. Any form she attributes obviously conservative arguments about
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: incentives and universal health care to the left And the trump,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: cancer hypothetical then corrects them by reassigning them back to
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: the right without acknowledging left wing versions of similar concerns
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: and environmental population of. Bioethics debates she explains defections from
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: the left almost exclusively in psychological, terms, comfort laziness need,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: for validation lack for care, of others rather than intellectual
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: terms disagreement, about means, trade offs or. Unintended consequences so
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: by the standard she, herself articulates she does not demonstrate
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: the level of actual respect for the arguments of her
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: opposition or cross examination that. Metric, requires instead she reveals
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: a pattern of, scapegoating dissenters morally, pathologizing disagreement and deploying
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: no true leftist moves to insulate her own worldview from serious,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: internal critique of which she has. Done none she is
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: simply the, good person and everybody else who disagrees with
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: her is the. Bad person this is why we had
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: like a thirty. Years, war, okay this women. LIKE this
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  Speaker 1: i don't know if men often are, like this but
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: probably if they, are that men, like this women who
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: could not acknowledge that other Branches of christianity might have
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: their own. Damn, point okay it was the Thirty. Years war,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: correct me you medieval, history boffins you can correct me in.
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  Speaker 1: The comments oh. My goodness should we even try for the?
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  Speaker 6: Third, one well this has been going a. LITTLE long
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  Speaker 6: i could.
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  Speaker 1: Probably sum it, up like, holy crap really.
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  Speaker 6: This is you just see if there's any like in.
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  Speaker 6: The chat i'm just looking TO see i there's any
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: super chats.
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  Speaker 5: Or Anything matt sheetwood says universal health care is a,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: positive right. Therefore, unjustifiable yeah but but there's like. That's
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: true there are EMERGENCIES like, i know doctor's take an
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: oath and, all that but like generally to treat it
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: as a right is going to create a condition where
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: people will live however they want because they know that the.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: Government will take care.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: Of them and it actually get it does get a
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: you get like a sort of paradoxical reaction because countries
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: that do have universal health care often like do their
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: best to prioritize people living healthy so that they don't stress,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: the system but they.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: End up stress stressing. The, System, ANYWAYS.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway i do have a, shout out Okay To Deadly
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  Speaker 1: This basically the third One is byrony talking about how
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  Speaker 1: women feel pressure to, get married and is as she
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: was with that whole thing about good guys versus girls
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: and how men should give and, expect nothing whereas women
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: should not give unless they. Get something, you know it's
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: basically just a whole bunch of Double standards i'm going
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  Speaker 1: time and we'll finish it. Off anyway, once again really
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• 1:56:42
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  Speaker 6: Next One men's right activists, are.
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  Speaker 1: Machines, dude okay they are. Literal machines they are talking.
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