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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 157 | Jaguars Preseason Week 2 Outlook · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to JAG's AM. Training camp continues a scrimmage scheduled
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  Speaker 1: for today. We're in studio here for you on JAGSAM
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  Speaker 1: as we get ready for the second preseason game on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday against the Saints, but still a couple more days
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  Speaker 1: of practice before we get to that. Welcome into studio
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  Speaker 1: here the hun Day Studios. I'm Tan Nannie Stevens. John
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  Speaker 1: Oser is with me. We also have a special guest
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  Speaker 1: host I'll introduce in a minute, but let's start out
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  Speaker 1: with our Big Things presented by g e H A
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  Speaker 1: Government Employees Health Association. Big Thing Number one is the scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this is going to be the second scrimmage
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  Speaker 1: we've seen during training camp, a little bit different. They're
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  Speaker 1: treating it like an actual game and going to get
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  Speaker 1: some advice from our guest host today, David Garard, former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback. David, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a little bit unusual.
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  Speaker 1: What else of these scrimmages like this, We don't see
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  Speaker 1: them very often. Did you experience that all when you played?
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  Speaker 1: And and how does that help with quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think, uh, they're probably having multiple scrimmages because you're
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  Speaker 3: just lacking so many preseason games like you used to
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  Speaker 3: do back in the day. So this is opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: see your starters in situations that you can actually put
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  Speaker 3: 'em in and see how they perform, but also get
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  Speaker 3: some of the young guys in situations because you start
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  Speaker 3: to lose the opportunity to get them in preseason games
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  Speaker 3: to get meaningful snaps. So uh, I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: great thing, and I'm sure more teams are gonna be
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  Speaker 3: doing us around the league.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, David, and I think the second factor
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  Speaker 4: in this, uh, they would have liked, I think to
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  Speaker 4: have had two joint practices, meaning they have one against
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  Speaker 4: the Dolphins. I think they would have liked In the future,
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  Speaker 4: we'll try to get another, uh cause I know Liam
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  Speaker 4: Cohen likes that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: This is a way I think to sort of simulate
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  Speaker 4: a little more game action, get a little more of
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  Speaker 4: that intensity maybe you'd have gotten from a joint practice.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But it's interesting, I I I'm not sure I've ever
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  Speaker 4: been around a team that's had two real scrimmages during
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  Speaker 4: uh the tra uh during the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm wondering if if that's a trend going forward.
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  Speaker 4: I think, as David said, it might be with with
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  Speaker 4: the three preseason.
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  Speaker 1: Games, our second big thing today is gonna be second look.
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  Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about what we saw from
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  Speaker 1: the starters in that first game earlier this week, but
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  Speaker 1: it was only for one drive on offense and and
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  Speaker 1: one and a half for some of the defensive players. John,
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  Speaker 1: what are we looking forward to in this second look?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously this might be the last time we see the starters,
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  Speaker 1: cause there's only three preseason games. What do you kind
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  Speaker 1: of have your eye out for in the second look
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  Speaker 1: in the second preseason game.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, It's so hard to know because usually you judge
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  Speaker 4: how you're gonna see preseason based on what the coach
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  Speaker 4: is underfore, and this is Leam's first time through this.
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  Speaker 4: I would think this might be the last look. Because
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  Speaker 4: you had a joint practice next week against Miami.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Coaches pull the starters out of that because they feel
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  Speaker 4: like they've gotten the work in that in that pre
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  Speaker 4: a in that uh joint practice. So you would assume that,
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  Speaker 4: and then you would assume maybe a couple of series
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  Speaker 4: to try to get a feel for these guys that
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't they got to play more than.
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  Speaker 2: One because you have to have a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: an adjustment.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe three series. I doubt through halftime. That doesn't
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  Speaker 4: feel right to me, but we'll see, David. You just
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  Speaker 4: don't know at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan now, so I want
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  Speaker 3: to see my starters. I want to see them go
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  Speaker 3: out and operate. I think it's a good thing for
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  Speaker 3: them to go out and have multiple preseason games that
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  Speaker 3: they play in. And I'm starting to see a trend
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  Speaker 3: where more teams are starting to play more of their starters.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Burrow played in the first preseason game.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't see that kind of thing the last you know,
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  Speaker 3: five years, honestly, So I like it. I think guys
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  Speaker 3: need more opportunity to get the season started. You've already
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  Speaker 3: eliminated one preseason game, So get your starters out there
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  Speaker 3: for at least two quarters. Maybe never go into the
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  Speaker 3: third quarter just because you feel like you've kept everybody
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  Speaker 3: healthy and you can finish in the first quarter. But
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  Speaker 3: give them some time to play together so that they
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  Speaker 3: can start the season fast and strong and not come
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  Speaker 3: limping into the season like they have the last few seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be happy campers.
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  Speaker 1: Is about two weeks left at this point until they
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  Speaker 1: cut the roster down and things kind of wrap up
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  Speaker 1: for training camp. David, I know things were different when
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  Speaker 1: you played. Obviously had two days, so it was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different for a training camp. But where's what's
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  Speaker 1: the perspective of a player at this point. Obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: a long training camp, dog days at this point, where
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  Speaker 1: what are the player's mindset at this point?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, being that old guy, I am a little jealous
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  Speaker 3: that there's only one practice and I think there might
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  Speaker 3: be a second practice that's another practice, just a walk through.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, their.
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  Speaker 3: Mindset is they're excited that camp is finally breaking. If
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  Speaker 3: it is truly like a camp where they're in a
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  Speaker 3: hotel and locked over there and they can't see their family,
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  Speaker 3: you know, guys would always, you know, three or four
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  Speaker 3: weeks in start getting excited to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: back to their kids and their wives and those kind
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  Speaker 3: of things, just to break up the monotony of camp.
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  Speaker 3: But this one that they're doing now, I mean I
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  Speaker 3: feel like they kind of can stay in it for
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  Speaker 3: a little bit and uh continue to work on meshing
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  Speaker 3: as a unit, meshing as a team. But usually their
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  Speaker 3: their mindset is, you know, we made it through another one,
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  Speaker 3: and now we've got to see who's sticking to the
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  Speaker 3: roster and who's not.
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  Speaker 5: And you know that's never a fun time. Uh, but
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  Speaker 5: it's a it's a necessary time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the next couple of weeks or realistically for
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  Speaker 4: this team more about trying to mesh, more about trying
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  Speaker 4: to get ready. Liam Cohen on that I think it
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  Speaker 4: was Monday, talked about you know, they probably know their
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  Speaker 4: first fifty to fifty one guys right now. Uh, and
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  Speaker 4: then they're trying to figure out he's gonna be on
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  Speaker 4: the practice squad, what those last uh couple of roster
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  Speaker 4: spots that you sort of play with are gonna look like.
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  Speaker 4: But we saw in the scrimmage, Uh, this team still
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  Speaker 4: needs to mesh under new head coach, new offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 4: new defensive coordinator, new GM.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: There's still some camaraderie and some chemistry uh to be gained.
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  Speaker 2: So it feels like that's what this is.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, two more weeks of I guess it's the
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  Speaker 4: dog days.
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  Speaker 2: I guess there's dog days still in training camp.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no more dog days. It's two pushack.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, stick with us. We're gonna talk to
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  Speaker 1: David gard a little bit about that first season game
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  Speaker 1: and also preview the Staints matchup this weekend. Welcome back
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back in.
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  Speaker 1: We've got David Gerard with us today, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick your brain a little bit as we talk about
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  Speaker 1: that first preseason game, also kind of the experience of
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  Speaker 1: training camp a little bit. So when we look at this,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new faces around here in Jacksonville, but
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  Speaker 1: one of the familiar ones is Trevor Lawrence entering his
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  Speaker 1: fifth season, but a lot of change for him, right,
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  Speaker 1: three different coaching staffs, three different offensive systems. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with a lot of change in terms of systems.
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  Speaker 1: So how difficult is that as a quarterback to pick
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  Speaker 1: up a new system?
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  Speaker 3: It can be pretty difficult because every system can be
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  Speaker 3: totally different.
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  Speaker 5: You can be speaking Spanish one day and then.
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  Speaker 3: All of sudden you're speaking English or Chinese, like it's
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  Speaker 3: just a totally different language, and you really have to
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  Speaker 3: put in a ton of work. Like at home, he's married,
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  Speaker 3: so he's got a wife that can sit there and
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  Speaker 3: call plays to him so he can repeat it back towards.
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  Speaker 3: These are things that me and my wife did many times.
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  Speaker 3: And you have to because you're trying to get yourself
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  Speaker 3: familiar with the verbiage so that when you're in the huddle,
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  Speaker 3: the guys know exactly that you have it one hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent down. Now they can struggle a little bit with
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  Speaker 3: what's being said, but the quarterback can.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it's very important for you to.
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  Speaker 3: Know that language that you're speaking and be able to
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  Speaker 3: enunciate it and get it to the guys clearly.
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  Speaker 2: And David, how important you know?
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  Speaker 4: I assume there's learning the system and then there's applying
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  Speaker 4: the system once the pads go on and once you
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  Speaker 4: know the bullets fly or however you want to call it.
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  Speaker 4: Is is it different in a new system once it
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  Speaker 4: gets real and you've really got to use what you've learned.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a process that Trevor's going through right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's really trying to figure out the best
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  Speaker 3: way that when he hears the call that he is
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  Speaker 3: going to be able to go out and produce as
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  Speaker 3: easily and functional for him as possible, because if he's
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  Speaker 3: not on, then it's hard to get anybody else on
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  Speaker 3: because he's the one that's got to.
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  Speaker 5: You know, get the ball to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So you want to make sure as a quarterback that
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  Speaker 3: you are prepared and that you're ready to go, but
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  Speaker 3: not just mentally, but also physically, and also making sure
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  Speaker 3: your teammates are ready to go. So if he has
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  Speaker 3: to have meetings where he calls in the whole offense
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  Speaker 3: or just the receivers, or maybe the running backs are
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  Speaker 3: struggling with something, he's got to make sure, you know,
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  Speaker 3: coming from a coach, that he's also being a coach
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  Speaker 3: and going and sometimes he'll stop in the running backs
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  Speaker 3: room see what they're going over so that he can
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  Speaker 3: tell them, oh, this is what I'm thinking on this,
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  Speaker 3: what are you thinking on this? And he'll go into
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  Speaker 3: every room and do that because you have to. You
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  Speaker 3: have to make sure the old line is on the
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  Speaker 3: same page, receivers, running backs, tight ends, all of them.
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  Speaker 5: And then you go sit in with the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: So you're another coach out there on the field and
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  Speaker 3: when you're in the locker room, in the meeting rooms.
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  Speaker 2: Running back room is one we've been focusing on.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of some new faces, some old faces,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of competition in that group. Liam Collen has
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  Speaker 1: said his focus is really establishing the run and taking
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  Speaker 1: some of that pressure off Trevor. Obviously you've played with
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  Speaker 1: some good running backs yourself. How much does that help
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  Speaker 1: you when you kind of know what you're getting from
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  Speaker 1: those guys, so you can kind of expect something from
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  Speaker 1: them and take a little bit of pressure off yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love the running back room because you have so
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  Speaker 3: many different dynamic running backs. You got Etn who can
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  Speaker 3: he can rush, he can also catch very well, and
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  Speaker 3: he's real fluid and smooth when he's on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Tank Bigsby type back that is.
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  Speaker 3: More bruising downhill but also still has the speed to
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  Speaker 3: take off. Touton who just has the speed and cannot
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  Speaker 3: run anybody, and every coach will tell you speed kills.
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  Speaker 3: So anytime you can get those kind of guys on
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  Speaker 3: the field, and even Allen the other bigger back, is
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  Speaker 3: huge because you want to make sure your quarterback has
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  Speaker 3: somebody that he can rely on I can just turn around,
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  Speaker 3: hand this ball to you and know that you can
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  Speaker 3: take it forty to.
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  Speaker 5: Fifty yards and take some of that pressure off me.
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  Speaker 5: Just look at the Philadelphia Eagles with Sakoon Barkley.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you can have a back that can
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  Speaker 3: take some of the stress off of the offense, off
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  Speaker 3: of the quarterback and they can go put the ball
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  Speaker 3: in the end zone, it's huge.
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  Speaker 5: So we definitely need this group to perform well this year.
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  Speaker 4: Something I've talked a lot about this week data the
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  Speaker 4: other night when two scored in the second half and
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  Speaker 4: the team sort of carried.
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  Speaker 2: Him into the end zone. If you well, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: quite like that the offensive line pushed him in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I may be making too much out of it,
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  Speaker 4: but it really seemed the reaction afterward. As much as
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  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen has talked about the running game, it seemed
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  Speaker 4: very symbolic and it seemed like a sign that this
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  Speaker 4: team was buying into.
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  Speaker 2: That whole idea We've got to be more physical. Anything
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  Speaker 2: to that. Did you like seeing that? And can a
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  Speaker 2: team sort of embrace that sort of thing this early?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's what training campus for is to build those
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  Speaker 3: that camaraderie, to build guys that are trying to work together,
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  Speaker 3: that are trying to you know, pull and push in
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  Speaker 3: the same direction.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's what you want. That's what you need.
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  Speaker 3: Just like when our kicker hit that seventy yarder. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you see Travis Hunter, first guy out there
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  Speaker 3: to go give him a big chess ball.
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  Speaker 5: I mean those he.
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  Speaker 2: Almost jumped ashigh as you did. He jumped way higher than.
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  Speaker 5: So, but that's what you want.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the things that's the galvanizing All those things happen.
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  Speaker 3: Now when you see the Chiefs and all these other
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  Speaker 3: teams in the Super Bowl, it's because of these moments
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  Speaker 3: in training camp, them figuring it all out and everybody
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  Speaker 3: buying in to being on the same page to move
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  Speaker 3: in the same direction. That's what's gotta happen. And anytime
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  Speaker 3: you can get those moments, you know, doesn't matter who
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  Speaker 3: it is. Guys don't care who it is. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't the starter my whole time when I played,
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  Speaker 3: but when I got out there, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Were pulling for me to go out there and perform.
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  Speaker 3: So whoever's out there, as long as you're putting the
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  Speaker 3: ball in the end zone, you're making plays. You're the
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  Speaker 3: guy that is that's got the energy, that juice that
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  Speaker 3: guys want to go out there and rally behind and
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  Speaker 3: play for They'll do it, doesn't matter who you are.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to touch on the offensive line room.
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  Speaker 1: This feels like the first season we've had in a
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  Speaker 1: while where there's a ton of competition in that group.
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  Speaker 1: What as a quarterback, is it just time on task
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  Speaker 1: to get that trust with your offensive line? What does
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  Speaker 1: it take to get to that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it's it's that, but it's really just
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  Speaker 3: believing in them, knowing that they can get the job done,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, when you're playing quarterback, you can't think
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  Speaker 3: about what they're doing.
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  Speaker 5: You're thinking about how not.
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  Speaker 3: To get hit and protect yourself and all that kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. But once the ball is snapped, it's on
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  Speaker 3: them to do their job, and you want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that you have the best five the coaches have
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  Speaker 3: figured out who's the best out there, especially for my
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  Speaker 3: left tackle, because I can't see what's going on back there,
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  Speaker 3: so I need to make sure that you've got it
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  Speaker 3: down and coaches understand, like if somebody's struggling in that area,
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  Speaker 3: if it is a little that's struggling or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 3: they'll help him. They'll protect him, they'll put the tight
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  Speaker 3: end to his side more, they'll slide the line to
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  Speaker 3: his side. So there's ways to help. Because sometimes when
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  Speaker 3: you get a rookie that comes in, you want to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that you're just not leaving them on an island.
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  Speaker 3: So there's ways to help, especially tackles, but you want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure you have the five and then they
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  Speaker 3: play together as much in as long as possible, because
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  Speaker 3: there are times when a call isn't gonna be made,
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  Speaker 3: but you need to make sure or that person needs
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  Speaker 3: to know this is what I'm supposed to be doing
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  Speaker 3: in this situation.
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  Speaker 5: Even though nobody said it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready for it, and that you just gotta
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  Speaker 3: have just the ultimate trust in your old line.
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  Speaker 1: Knowing your responsibility. Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Stay with us here on Jagsam.
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  Speaker 1: After the break, we're gonna talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: that second preseason game as we had to New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back in to JAG's am preseason underway. The scrimmage
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  Speaker 1: underway in training camp today. But we're gonna talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit quickly about that second preseason matchup that's coming
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  Speaker 1: up this weekend. Normally Daguars play Friday, Saturday or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. They're gonna playing Sunday at one. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like a real deal, as we had to New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans this weekend and taking on a franchise that's in
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  Speaker 1: a similar spot in terms of new coaching staff. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have a new quarterback, but they'll have a new
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  Speaker 1: quarterback as well, So lots of change going on for them.
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  Speaker 1: But Kellen Moore, who was the offensive coordinator with the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion of Philadelphia Eagles, They're obviously gonna be
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  Speaker 1: tried to be offensively focused, as many teams are in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL. But I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: at least here there's an excitement to see what the
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  Speaker 1: team will actually look like. Right So, I'm assuming New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans is in a similar situation where John they don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily know their identity yet, but this is when they're finally,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: for the first time kind of seeing how this team
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: will be built going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they finally had to hit reset. I mean, I
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: mean they were franchised for years with Breeze. They kept
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: playing it out, playing it out, sort of mortgaging the future.
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  Speaker 4: As you say, they even because of their salary cap.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm looking at it from a distance, but because
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: their salary cap, they sort of had to he sort
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  Speaker 4: of patchworking it for a while, and then this year
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: they finally said, Okay, we.
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  Speaker 2: Have to make a change and move this thing forward.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like rebuilding there with the first year quarterback in.
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  Speaker 4: Preseason David, realistically, you're looking more at the team you're covering.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm fascinated really to see what we.
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  Speaker 4: Talked about earlier, how the Jaguars will play starters, how
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  Speaker 4: they will approach this. Do they have this feel like
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  Speaker 4: their preseason warm up, meaning you know, there's always a
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: dress rehearsal game for you guys, it was always Week
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  Speaker 4: three because you wanted to not play in Week four.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious to see how much this is a dress
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  Speaker 4: rehearsal for.
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  Speaker 5: The Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: When we're looking at We talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck, who's actually one week older than Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: which will be interesting considering the new college landscape.
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  Speaker 2: Rookie, that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: He's a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming in.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor's into year five, Shuck is into year one. When
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you're coming in a little bit older, is it?
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  Speaker 5: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out on Sunday. But what's the
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  Speaker 1: learning curve? How was it for you coming in and
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  Speaker 1: kind of trying to learn that NFL offense? Did you
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  Speaker 1: feel prepared for it when you came in?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? So when I came in, once again, it was
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: old school. We're always gonna be saying old school when
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: people were talking about me, but it was a more
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: old school kind of way.
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  Speaker 3: You played at least four years of college football, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: if you red shirted like I did, it was five
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: years of college football because they wanted to have a
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: more veteran guy coming into the league and not a
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: young pup that they would have to kind of learn
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and figure out how to play NFL ball and all
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. But the way that the college
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: game is and the way that the NFL game is,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they're kind of getting closer and closer together.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can see in the pros everybody's.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: In shotgun all the time already now so and in
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: college they don't even know how to go under center.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it. That's just how the game is, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 3: I used to be the grumpy old guy that would say,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: you know, get under center, and what are we doing here?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: We're teaching these college guys, you know, bad habits and
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff. But as long as the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: game is fun, they're putting points up, quarterbacks are making plays.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: When I was coming out, you did not talk the
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: same way that these uh NFL teams are talking with
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: their language and that kind of stuff. There might be
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: some similarities here and there, but are hundred plays compared
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to their three hundred and fifty plays.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: It's a big difference. You're like, how can you add
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: that many more plays? But you can't? Uh, and they did.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So it is interesting. It is pretty cool. But I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: think with Schuck he's gonna be that kind of older,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: young vet rookie guy that can come in and hopefully
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: handle things a little better. Than say a twenty one
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: year old. But you know, it's always what are you
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: doing on the field, That's what it always comes down to.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: We can talk about it all right now in the preseason.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: You can look great in the preseason, but when real
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: bullet start flying in Week one, that's when we're going
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to get a true idea of how good these guys are.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like he's gonna get to start right away,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: so we'll get a look at that on Sunday. Say
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it with here, we'll tell you what's coming up the
• 19:11
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• 19:40
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• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a little bit about cut day,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: which is I think ten days away at this point eleven.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not coming Tuesday, the next Tuesday. Liam Cohen
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: talked earlier this week and he said in his mind
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: he's got fifty of the fifty three kind of figured out.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So David, just want to use your experience a little
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: bit at this edge of the this point in the preseason,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: what are players kind of trying to try to make
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  Speaker 1: a mark on their last uh last kind of opportunities
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  Speaker 1: to show the coach.
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  Speaker 3: That they got Yeah, I mean it's the last opportunities
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: of you being able to make that mark so that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: coaches remember you and say, we need to have this
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: guy on our st on our roster. So it is
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: a big moment for a lot of guys. You know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I honestly never had to go through any kind of
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: cut situation like that. Well at the cut times I did.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: If anybody remembers, but.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Your lunch, well we did have lunch, so you know.
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  Speaker 5: But it is testing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Even when you are a starter, even when you are
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a guy that's not worried as much, you still kind
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: of have it in the back of your mind because
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you start hearing of other guys that are vets that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, that guy's pretty good and he just.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Got let go. So it's always in the back of
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: your mind for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: But when you're a young guy, when you get to
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: these moments, you just have to stay within yourself, make
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: sure that you're putting in a ton of extra reps
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: before and after practice as much as you can so
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: that when your number is called, you're able to go
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: out there and just make a play, make a play
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: or two so that the coaches say, we can't cut
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: this guy.
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  Speaker 5: This guy is making plays for us.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Terrell Davis uh has kind of the most unbelievable,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, last day of cut situation. He's in a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: final preseason game. He's not making the team. The coach
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: has already kind of told him he's not, So just
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: go out there and have fun done and do whatever
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you can do. Goes down and makes a huge hit
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: on a guy on kickoff, and he makes a team
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: through special teams because of that hit on the last
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: preseason game. This guy turns out to be a Hall
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of Fame player, which is unbelievable in so many different ways.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: But that right there just tells you you can do it,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and you can go on and have a great career,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: not just make a team one year.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think one thing to to remember now it's so
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: much different than when I started covering to league when
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: you played, is that there's now sixteen guys on the.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Practice squad rather than six.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: So the reality of the last cut has become and
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's a really positive for the league and
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: the players. By the way, it's less about, you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: when you get that knock on the door. For a
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: lot of these guys, the career is not ending. It
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: just means they're not gonna be making as much money
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: that first week, and then they're still gonna have a
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: chance to develop, which is a huge It's been a
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: major improvement.
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  Speaker 2: It also takes you know, it's obviously a huge deal
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: to make the.
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  Speaker 4: Final roster, but so much of the roster now five
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: or six or seven of these guys are on the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: practice squad wind up getting moved up. You're sort of
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: a you know, an auxiliary part of the team, if
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: you will. So it's not like you're necessarily saying goodbye.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: To these guys. A lot of these guys will still contribute.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: That said, when you make that roster, it's still a
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: big deal for these kids, and it's still a cool
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: story that day when they make that fifty three.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely tough decisions, but very exciting for those that make
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the fifty three. So we're gonna head to New Orleans
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: this weekend our second preseason game, will be back next
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: week to recap everything for you here on dad's I
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