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Pond Creek Monster: Illinois Dogman & Bigfoot with Bryce Edwards · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into our show tonight where we are going on
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  Speaker 2: the hunt with Bryce Edwards tonight out of Southern Illinois,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. I hope you guys are having a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 2: And my goodness, y'all, I spent the entire day at
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  Speaker 2: a car show today with my dad. And we had
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  Speaker 2: a blast. If any of you guys live in the
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  Speaker 2: Cartersville area, northwest Georgia, go check out the Savoy I
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  Speaker 2: think that's how you pronounce it. Savoy Automobile Museum. They
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  Speaker 2: had a big old car show today. My dad did
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  Speaker 2: place in the top 20 out of hundreds of vehicles
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  Speaker 2: that were in their little car show. People's Choice Award
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  Speaker 2: competition today. So shout out to my dad. It was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun, y'all. We had flash flooding today.
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  Speaker 2: It was, oh my God, the cars all got covered
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  Speaker 2: in mud. It was wild. But it was awesome. Super hot.
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  Speaker 2: I was tired, but I'm here today. And I tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, I get excited and all jacked up on
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  Speaker 2: Mountain Dew right before these shows. Okay, if anybody knows
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  Speaker 2: that reference, it is from Talladega Nights. And tonight, we
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  Speaker 2: have such a fantastic show for you guys. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into the Pond Creek Monster tonight with Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all remember Bryce came on the show last. About eight
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  Speaker 2: months ago, I think it was back in January, we
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  Speaker 2: had him on and we had such a wonderful time
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  Speaker 2: talking with him about his family's experiences out on his farm.
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  Speaker 2: They have a lot of land down in southern Illinois
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  Speaker 2: and they've had some more encounters since then. So we're
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  Speaker 2: going to get into an update today. And since then
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  Speaker 2: also Bryce has been speaking. He is a highly sought
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  Speaker 2: after speaker at some of these Bigfoot festivals now. And
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  Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about that a little bit
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  Speaker 2: today as well. And so much more. Okay, y'all. So
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  Speaker 2: if you guys want to check out my website and
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  Speaker 2: stuff and all my shows, go over to thecryptohunters.com. And
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  Speaker 2: you can find all of my shows there. And also
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  Speaker 2: I do have a Patreon if you guys want to
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  Speaker 2: support my work. And you can become a channel member
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  Speaker 2: here as well if you're interested. And also I do
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  Speaker 2: have a shop over on Etsy. It's called War Woman Goods.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guys so much for all your support there. OK, well, actually,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to show a couple of pictures. OK,
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of like on the fence. Should I
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  Speaker 2: show these or not? I do want to tell you
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  Speaker 2: all that in this automobile museum, by the way, if
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  Speaker 2: you're into NASCAR, I did make a Talladega Knights reference
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  Speaker 2: while ago. I got to go see some real. And
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  Speaker 2: of course, y'all, I grew up racing. My grandfather had
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  Speaker 2: racing teams, NASCAR back in the day. I used to
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  Speaker 2: know a bunch of race car drivers. I used to
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  Speaker 2: be a race car driver.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: In case y'all didn't know, in case you're wondering why
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  Speaker 2: I'm so obsessed with Talladega Nights, but I race midget cars.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: When I was a, when I was a teenager, but
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  Speaker 2: I got to see Richard Petty's old car, like some real,
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  Speaker 2: real cars. Look at that. They don't make cars like
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  Speaker 2: they used to y'all. They just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We got Richard Petty. I don't even know. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember who else cars these are. That looks like Bill
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  Speaker 2: Elliott's car right there. I don't even know. But, but
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome. So I just thought I'd show you
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  Speaker 2: all this. Now, if you want to wonder why do
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  Speaker 2: we not have flying cars yet? Well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the 1950s and 60s, I think they were
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  Speaker 2: close to having flying cars. Okay. And check out that
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  Speaker 2: aerodynamic looking weird thing right there. If you want to
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  Speaker 2: see something that's even more strange, they had stuff like this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you'd think that we'd have cars that look
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  Speaker 2: more like that today and not trash dumpsters. Okay. And
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  Speaker 2: no offense. No offense, and Gremlins as well, y'all. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And there's some of the cars that were there. Here's
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  Speaker 2: my dad. Shout out to my dad. That's my dad's
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  Speaker 2: Mustang right there. That's one of his prized possession right there.
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  Speaker 2: And there's dad. Shout out to Pops. Congratulations today. Y'all
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  Speaker 2: saw me last year. I gave him a congratulations. He
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  Speaker 2: won last year too, y'all. Okay. So he loves that car.
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  Speaker 2: 65 Ford Mustang Cobra.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's get to our show. Enough about what I
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  Speaker 2: did today. I want to hear what Bryce has been
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  Speaker 2: up to, okay? I think that we are about to
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  Speaker 2: have a fun, fun time tonight. All right, so on
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  Speaker 2: this episode, we got Bryce Edwards here. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: discuss his family's history of Bigfoot and strange creatures on
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  Speaker 2: their 642-acre farm in southern Illinois near the Shawnee National Forest,
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  Speaker 2: Pond Creek, and the region of legendary Big Muddy Monster Encounters.
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  Speaker 2: And his family's experienced massive footprints, eerie screams, tree knocks,
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  Speaker 2: mimic voices, nighttime whistles, and two shocking Sasquatch sightings since
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  Speaker 2: the 1960s, including one broad daylight encounter of a black
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  Speaker 2: eight foot tall creature digging in the hillside. And last
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  Speaker 2: time he was here, I was like, hey, that sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a dog man. OK, so we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that today. His dad might have had his own
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  Speaker 2: encounter with that. A new documentary on the Pond Creek
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  Speaker 2: Monster was recently released, and you guys can find that
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  Speaker 2: link to the video in the description box. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: the moderators will be putting that in the chat tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to show it to you, not the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: We're just going to show you the thumbnail and everything.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that tonight. We're going to discuss that
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  Speaker 2: documentary and Bryce's newest cryptid encounters tonight. All the things
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  Speaker 2: that's happened since he visited us last time on the
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  Speaker 2: show back in January. Please help me welcome to the show, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Edwards.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Bryce. Hey, Jess. How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm excellent. How are you tonight?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 1: Doing good.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everybody in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: That's excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Man, you have been a busy man. What has been
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  Speaker 2: going on?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, it's been a while. I've been doing a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of podcasts. Now I've been doing speaking engagements. Got
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  Speaker 1: the documentary released finally. It's been doing really well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: first it started off on my buddy, Joe. He's the
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  Speaker 1: guy that filmed everything started off just on like the
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  Speaker 1: member side of his channel. And then we got, uh,
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  Speaker 1: some smaller, um, like streaming services and stuff to pick
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  Speaker 1: it up. And we're still waiting for to be and Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: but we thought the distributor was just taking their sweet
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  Speaker 1: time with it. But apparently it's taken like eight months
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  Speaker 1: now to get through with those two. So, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but Hey, you know, it'll get on there.
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  Speaker 1: It won't either way. It's still getting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: views on YouTube at least. And, um, I'm happy with.
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  Speaker 3: That because we put our heart and soul into it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Let me go ahead and pull it up.
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  Speaker 2: So the audience can see what this documentary looks like.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys want to, uh, check this out, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there is a link in the description box tonight. It's
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  Speaker 2: called the pond Creek monster, uh, new 2026 Bigfoot documentary. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I watched this. I love it. I think it's great, Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: I'm super excited for you guys. And it actually, your
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  Speaker 2: whole family's in there just about, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad, my wife, yeah. And then we even got, uh, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerard, Gerard, Gerard. I can't remember how he pronounces
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  Speaker 1: his last name. Um, he was on, uh, the old,
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  Speaker 1: the old version of monster quest. He was on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of episodes of it and, uh, come to find
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  Speaker 1: out he actually lives in Southern Illinois, a little further
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  Speaker 1: South than me, but it was cool to get him
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  Speaker 1: on it. So yeah, it's, it's, it's really neat. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: I hope everybody checks it out. Um, it's free to
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  Speaker 1: check out on, on the YouTube page right there. Just
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  Speaker 1: click that link and, uh, Yeah, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's been pretty wild. My dad, man, my dad, that
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  Speaker 1: documentary and my dad being on it, like, he did
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  Speaker 1: such a good job on it.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know if I want to
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  Speaker 3: be on it or not. And, I mean, he killed it.
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  Speaker 1: Like, really, he's the.
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  Speaker 3: Star of the documentary. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like, just listening to him talk, it just backs up
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  Speaker 1: everything I've said, you know, and that way people can
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  Speaker 1: be like, well, his dad's experiencing it, too.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it just makes any people.
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  Speaker 1: Who may have doubts you know, maybe not have as
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  Speaker 1: much doubt or no doubt at all, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy about that and my wife's on it. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty cool too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they were, they were fantastic by the way. And, uh, and, and,
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  Speaker 2: and actually some of the things that they were talking about,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to maybe even bring up tonight, uh,
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  Speaker 2: because you're, I mean, you're, yeah, your dad, your dad
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  Speaker 2: was a star by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: He was, he's, so are you. Okay. And all y'all,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was, I thought it was very well done.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And I was actually, I took note of like your
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  Speaker 2: wife saying that there's been a lot of blood and
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  Speaker 2: tragedy on that land and stuff. And I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's something that I talk about a lot when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the cryptid encounters that people have all over
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  Speaker 2: the country, all over the world. People are having a
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  Speaker 2: lot of encounters and activity on their property where there's
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  Speaker 2: been land disputes and you know civil war battles and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff it's almost like the land
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  Speaker 2: where the blood is shed is where these cryptids are
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  Speaker 2: hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: Well there used to be a fort on the property
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  Speaker 1: um And, like, that would be on, like, one side
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  Speaker 1: of the road that's there now. And then, like, down
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  Speaker 1: in the field where I had my siding and everything,
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  Speaker 1: the first one, over in that area, there was a
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  Speaker 1: Native American settlement down there. So whenever they built that fort,
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  Speaker 1: I did a little research on it and found out
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  Speaker 1: that was one of the first forts built in America's
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  Speaker 1: expansion west of, like, the Ohio River, River Valley, whatever. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can think, you know, what they were
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  Speaker 1: there to do. with that native American settlement being there,
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  Speaker 1: not even half mile away, maybe, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trail of tears, all that stuff. I hate it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that that happened and everything, but like, um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know exactly where the fort was. My dad does because
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  Speaker 1: there's like a tree that was growing in one of
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  Speaker 1: the fields or in that field. And he was talking
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  Speaker 1: about how where that tree was, the fort was basically
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  Speaker 1: around that tree. And my great uncle, so my grandma's brother,
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  Speaker 1: he remembered whenever they were really young that there were
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  Speaker 1: still parts of the fort still there that hadn't gone
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  Speaker 1: away with time and all that stuff. And so that
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool to know that, you know, up until
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the 1900s, it was there, you know. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's been excavated and checked out by Southern
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  Speaker 1: Illinois University in Carbondale. And they found like all kinds of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, period for, like, you know, like, having a fort, like,
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  Speaker 1: musket balls, partially, like, part of a sword, some other
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and, you know, arrowheads and, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: axe heads and things like that, I mean, it's all
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  Speaker 1: been found over in that area, and, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: remember being a kid and finding a bunch of arrowheads
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  Speaker 1: and stuff in the creek back whenever, like, See, now
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  Speaker 1: the way the creek is now, the coal mine, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of rerouted it part of the way. So it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty well always full now. And back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: there'd be times where there wouldn't be any water in it.
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  Speaker 1: And then say you had a big storm come through,
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  Speaker 1: wait a day or two, go back down to the
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  Speaker 1: creek whenever all the water's gone. And you'd find all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of arrowheads, flint pieces and all that. It was
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  Speaker 1: treasure trove down there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man, that's really cool. And and so, well, that
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  Speaker 2: that just it shows you there's a whole lot of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, indigenous, you know, history right there. And that
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  Speaker 2: does kind of go hand in hand with like dog
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  Speaker 2: man and sightings and Bigfoot sightings as well. Any kind
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  Speaker 2: of sacred land out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, uh, you know, last time you came on, I
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  Speaker 2: actually was like, Hey, what about all these ancient Egyptian
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  Speaker 2: artifacts that have been found out there and stuff? You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's weird. Like all of Southern Illinois, it's like known
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  Speaker 1: as little Egypt in my area. And like over in
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  Speaker 1: the Shawnee, uh, the national forest, you've got this area
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  Speaker 1: called garden of the gods. Um, We've got Fern Cliff, which,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not really any Egyptian thing. That's just
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  Speaker 1: another one of the state parks. It's not too far away.
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  Speaker 1: And then you've even got Giant City, which, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that state parks over kind of on the south side
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  Speaker 1: of Carbondale, like leading through like what Murfreesboro with a
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  Speaker 1: big muddy monster was and all that stuff. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's all through there and there's still sightings of Bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: in the Murfreesboro area after I did a couple shows
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  Speaker 1: some local people started reaching out to me and like
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  Speaker 1: thanking me for going on bringing awareness to Southern Illinois
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  Speaker 1: that's really why I'm doing all this it's just because
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  Speaker 1: I want people to know like hey it's here too
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  Speaker 1: you know it's not just you know Pacific Northwest or
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  Speaker 1: the Appalachian Mountains you know I mean Oklahoma's got them
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  Speaker 1: you know it's like we got it it's wild you
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  Speaker 1: know And that was basically whenever I did my speaking
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  Speaker 1: engagement this last time, that was what I ended with.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was just like, you know, I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a name or nothing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to bring awareness that these preachers are here.
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  Speaker 1: And just because I've had positive interactions doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 1: always going to go that way for me or that
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  Speaker 1: it's going to go that way for anybody else in
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  Speaker 1: Southern Illinois, you know, because you just never know.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, there's been so many people. I mean, I've had
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  Speaker 2: other people that have come on my show that have
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  Speaker 2: talked about Illinois and I get, That whole area, I
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  Speaker 2: just say it's all up north, okay? Because I live
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  Speaker 2: down here in the deep south, down in Georgia. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Everything up north, okay? Y'all are having a lot of
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  Speaker 2: dogman and Bigfoot activity right now. And I'm meeting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people talking about their activity out of, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's Indiana and Illinois, okay? And Ohio as well. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think, is there any kind of like, do
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  Speaker 2: you have any explanation for like why maybe there's been
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  Speaker 2: an uptick and all these like, they call it a
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot flap, which I think is funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I....
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  Speaker 3: I always thought maybe, you know, it had something to
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  Speaker 3: do with the waterways.
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  Speaker 1: But after I was talking with Martin Groves on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of brought up something that made a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sense to me that, you know, down in Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: and Kentucky area, that there's a lot of berries that
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  Speaker 1: are starting at the time we're coming into bloom and
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  Speaker 1: all that.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, they're all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, so these things coming down, come down,
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  Speaker 1: get the berries, you know, mushrooms, whatever. And then they
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  Speaker 1: just kind of, migrate back up to where they were before,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't really thought about that, but I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense. We got a wild blackberries growing out
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  Speaker 1: on the farm. And I mean, I remember being a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember being a kid just walking and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: walking along the side of the road, seeing them and
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  Speaker 1: just being like picking them off and eating them, you know?
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  Speaker 1: And I found out too, with that Tony Gerrard story,
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  Speaker 1: he discovered out there on the farm, I just saw
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  Speaker 1: like this really pretty blue flower and didn't think anything
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  Speaker 1: of it. And he said that that, when like, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you like look around, you'd see these like green little,
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  Speaker 1: like I thought almost looked like Kiwis, but it was
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  Speaker 1: like a native passion fruit. And yeah, so we got
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  Speaker 1: those out there.
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  Speaker 3: That was new to me. I didn't even know we
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  Speaker 3: had that.
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  Speaker 1: And so like, you know, just that, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: I think Bigfoot likes persimmons. Because behind dad's house, there's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one barn and then there's another barn and
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  Speaker 1: then there's a small field behind that. And back over
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  Speaker 1: there in the far left corner, there's persimmon trees back there.
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  Speaker 1: And I went back there.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Dad had knee replacement about a month ago. So it
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  Speaker 1: was probably about three weeks ago I was back there.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to look to see
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  Speaker 1: if there's any persimmons. I don't even know if they're
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: in season yet or not. But I went back there
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and there was nothing on the trees. They were completely
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: picked clean. Not even like a one starting or anything
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: like that. And you know, dad, before he had his
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: knee surgery, he bush hogged a lot. So, you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: back there he had cut it down and some of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that grass, like the taller grass that had been cut
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: down and everything, you could see big impressions, but it
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: was nothing that you could, you know, like cast or
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: even get a good picture of. It was just like,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: if you were there looking at it, you can see, okay,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: this is a lot bigger footprint than I have.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And I have 13, you know, I wear a 13.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So I got a big foot. You're a big foot.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just kidding. And then I have my little
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: man with me and, you know, he's all about going
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and looking for Bigfoot and all that stuff. Of course,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I only ever have him with me, like just walking around,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: not going in the woods or nothing during the daytime.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: If I'm actually going to squash, I'm like, nah, you're
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: going to.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Stay at home with your mom. But, you know, but it's,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: it's pretty wild. And just, you know, like dad, he's,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Now that he knows what to listen for and all that,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: because dad lives out there. I don't live out there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I just go out there when I can. And he's like, man,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he goes, I hear all kinds of stuff now. Stuff that,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he had heard before and stuff that I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: had heard before as a kid and just never associated with,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Bigfoot activity.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: And like example.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You know, being a kid, you know, I would just
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: cut through the field, go out the back door at
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: dad's house to go to my grandparents' house instead of
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: having to walk on the road, you know. And I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: remember a lot of times, like, especially in like the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: mid nineties or early nineties cutting through there. And you
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: would hear what you would think was like some farmer,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like fixing his fence or building a barn or something,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you know, just sounded like, you know, hammer on wood. Well,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: thinking back on it now and knowing there's no new
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: fences or new barns that were built in the last
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: 30 years, you know, it's like, that might've been tree
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: knocks and, um, you know, and it's just, but like
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: when you're a kid, you just, you don't think about that,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: especially back then, you know, Bigfoot wasn't a big topic really.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, kind of, but not, not to the level
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that it is now, you know? No.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And people don't want to think about them being on
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: their own property. Bigfoot is something that's up in the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest, you know, like there's that one Bigfoot and
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the normal average everyday person is not like the, let's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just say the normies, you know, they're, they're not going
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to think like, Oh, there's, that can be a Bigfoot.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, even us at some point, like I would
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: have never thought that I grew up on a farm
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: myself and I'd heard stuff. I wouldn't have thought it
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: was a Bigfoot, you know, that's interesting.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I was reading what this guy said about dog man
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: building gazebo type structures and.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Sovereign Cosmic Wildman.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Man. I remember seeing something that kind of looked like
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a gazebo type structure it was well it's basically right
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: around the time dad heard that roar back in 2015
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that we found like several of them um but i
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: thought i mean i didn't really know what i was
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: looking at back then but to me it just looked
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: like like huts almost made out of like just twigs
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and like tree branches and stuff. And had like a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: bunch of like a leaf litter across the top and everything.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: But seeing that, you know, it's like, Oh God, that
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: could have been dog man. And since my dad gave
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: me the okay to talk about a sighting of his,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: which I can get into whenever.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Now let's talk about it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. I want to hear about it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. So when I had my second sighting, um i
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: was describing it and everything and dad dad was acting
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: kind of weird whenever i said it the second time
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you know seeing it the second time and i had
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a witness with me he saw it too i mean
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: we were sitting on the back of joe's truck whenever
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: we were getting ready to go over to basically where
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: i found those huts at you know look well putt
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: looking things back in 2015 um and uh.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: If people ask like well he hasn't said that before
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: i hadn't thought.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: About it until i saw that comment so you know
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: whatever but Anyways, we were pulling out there. We were
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: going to do a fireside interview with Amber to talk
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: about the stuff that my grandma told her about and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: everything back whenever she was pregnant with our youngest because
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: she had a really hard pregnancy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So while I was at work, grandma would come hang
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: out with her.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And she'd tell her stories, you know, about things she
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: experienced out on the farm, all the strangeness and everything.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: She talked about the honey bear sighting she had, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: honey bear, back in 1963. And that's as far back
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: as I have any sightings. But anyways... So I was
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, what I saw, it was black,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: looked to be eight foot tall, even from a distance.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You could tell this was not just a person standing there.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Solid black, a little more of a leaner build. It
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't a big hulking figure like Patty was. And, you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: my first sighting was the same way. That's why I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: think it was the same one or like a brother
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: But. you know, we're sitting there, we're watching this. I've
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: got this witness with me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: People want to jump my butt about like, well, why
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: didn't you stop and start filming? I mean, even Joe
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: got mad at me because I didn't say, Hey, stop
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. Like me and him were just
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: locked in on it, like confirming to each other that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we're seeing this.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And like, that's how it is. Whenever you see Bigfoot,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: if you're not trying.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: To film Bigfoot, you know, if you don't have your
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: camera already out and just walking around like, Hey, where's Bigfoot,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff. Once you see it,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you're just, you're in the moment. You know what I mean?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It's like you're a person would be lucky to see
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it one time in their life, let alone twice. You know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and actually I've had a third sighting, which we'll get
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: into that later. But that wasn't on the farm. But,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those deals. So I'm
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: describing what I saw to dad. He started acting kind
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of weird. And I'm like, what?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, nothing. And then, you know, a couple
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: of days goes by. And I went out.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: There and I was just, you know, talking to him,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: checking on him and stuff. And he tells me, he goes, man,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he goes, I really wish you wouldn't have described what
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you saw.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And I said, well, why?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: He goes, well, I've seen something like that. I'm like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: oh yeah. He said, yeah. He goes, but he goes,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I told him, I was just like, oh yeah. So,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you know, the slender build and everything, conical shaped head.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He goes slender build. He's like, but it wasn't a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: conical shape. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a big
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: foot head or nothing. I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And he goes, What I saw, it walked by the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: living room window at his house, broad daylight, because this,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he said it was like, you know, mid-afternoon,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: so like maybe like four o'clock, and he said it
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just walked right by his front window, not front window,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but the living room window, which would be on the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: east side of the house, and he was just like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: if he hadn't just been looking at the window, he
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have seen it go by. But he said he
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: only saw from like here down. But he said it
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: reminded him of that Egyptian dog guy. That's a direct quote.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And I go, is this? And he goes, yeah. I go,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that's not Bigfoot. He's like, I know. And I'm like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: so you're telling me you saw dog man.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And he was like, I don't want to say that's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: what I saw. He's like, but what else could that be?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, is that window, like the top
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of that window from like ground level, you're looking at
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: like six and a half, seven feet, you know, to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the top of that window.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: And he saw, like I said, like basically mid face down.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So he caught like the bottom part of the jaw
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and everything. And, um, I asked him, I said, well,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: did you like, you know, like keep following it through
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the house, looking out the windows and stuff. And he
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was like, hell no, I didn't. He's like, I was
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: sitting there in the living room, just like crap. He's like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I knew the back doors were locked and everything. He's like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but I went and got my gun and sat back down.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay. And like, here's the thing. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: lived in that house after my great grandma passed away.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So like after she passed away, I was the first
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: person to live there. And you know, besides her for
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like a long time. And that windows never had a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: shade or, you know, curtain, anything like that. I don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: know why. Right. Curtains.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: All windows need curtains. I don't know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, I was a bachelor. I didn't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: But, you know, it was like you always felt at
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: nighttime like something was standing there watching you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And, you know, so maybe that was it. Maybe it
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: was a Bigfoot.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But. The thing that got me most
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: about this was he had told me about this great big,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: what he called the biggest wolf print he's ever seen.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But like in Southern Illinois, you don't really hear.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: About, not to say we don't have them, just you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: don't really hear about wolf sightings that much. It's more coyotes,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: coy dogs, things like that, wild dogs. But not a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Not a wolf, really.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: He was telling me about this print.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Dad's hand is about the size of mine. He said
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: he put his hand down by it and this print
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was bigger than his hand in width and length. He
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: wanted me to see it, but that week I was
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: working a bunch of 12-hour shifts at the factory. It's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like you know, I can't get out there. And so
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: whenever I can get out there, which is the following week,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'll come out after work.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Well, he called me at work, told me don't bother.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And I was like, why the pipeline, the natural gas
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: pipeline they put in last year, they were bulldozing right
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: through there and destroyed that print. He didn't have his phone,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the camera on it, like the lens part was all busted.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So he couldn't take a picture of it. And I mean,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, honestly, it's, I know his camera was like that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't even know if dad would have even
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: thought to have taken a picture of it. He was
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, I want you to come see this.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, dad's old school. So and dad's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: not a researcher. You know, he's just a guy walking
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: around out on his farm. And so you put that
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: with the sighting he had on the documentary. You'll hear
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: a pack of coyotes going off and then you'll hear
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: something else going off with them. Now, the first time
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I heard it, I was because I was strictly thinking
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot only is out there.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, wow, Bigfoot's really not sounding like a Bigfoot.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: You know, I was like, but we've heard him mimic
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Owls, train whistles, you know, people, you know, just, you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: weird things.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: So it's like I didn't really think much of it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: But then I don't remember. I think it was on
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Daryl Denton's Facebook group, maybe. But somebody played this or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: posted this audio clip that was of a dog man,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, supposedly. And I listened to it. And then
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I went back and listened to that audio that Joe
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: had sent me. Because before he ever put it on there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: He sent it to me. He's like, dude, check this out.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he was thinking dog man
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: either at the time. He was just thinking, what is that?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I remember him asking, like, what is that?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Bigfoot, I guess, you know.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm no, you know, yeah, I've been doing this
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Now, but like I'm still a rookie, you know, like
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But whenever I heard that recording and it sounded so
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: similar to the one we got, it was like, oh, shit. OK,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: we OK, you know, and then dad tells me about
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that sighting confirming it. Um, he followed that up with,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he has these two dogs at the house. Uh, one's
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this big St. Bernard and then the other one's this
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: little black mutt and mutt every so often middle of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the night, it'll just like lose its mind barking and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: growling and everything at that window. and wanting to go
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: outside you know so you know dad would get up
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he would let the dogs out and you know thinking
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: they just need to go out and do their business
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever but whenever yuki was acting like that it
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: would take off and go around the house and immediately
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: go barking and chasing after whatever and then of course
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the big St.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Bernard, you know, following with it. But, uh, it's like, man, like, was.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: That back there?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: And, you know, Yuki picked up on it and was like, uh,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Cause I mean, like I said, he's not very big,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: but he ain't going to back down either, you know?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So pretty wild. Um, I mean, I'm trying to get
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: back out there on the farm. Um, cause you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like I would love to live where I can do
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: my research at and, you know, it would just be
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a lot better for everything that I'm trying to do
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that way. And but, you know, like dad told me,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, well, you get out here and everything
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: is like, be careful what you wish for is like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: because they might come visit you. And I'm like, well,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and I mean, he's talked about being out there. And
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: here's another reason why I think it might be a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: dog man out there, too, because I know Bigfoot will
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: slap houses and things like that. But have you ever
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: heard of Bigfoot slapping a pole barn, but then kind
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: of raking its hand across like a pole barn, how
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that sheet metal is, how it's got like the ripples
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in it or something like that?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I heard dog men do that actually, too. Yeah, see, that's.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: What dad's thinking happened on that particular night.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, when they do the scraping and stuff like that,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that's more associated with dog men, actually. And I just
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: did an investigation like about, you know, 11 miles from
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: my house or something like that. I mean, it was
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: like super close to where I live. And it's on
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a farm where this lady and her family, they're having
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: her husband's kind of in denial on it, of course.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: But I say, of course, he's kind of in denial
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: about some of the stuff that's happening there. But she
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: something her neighbors are being affected by this now, whatever
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: it is, it's taking their chickens and stuff. But there's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: it's Dogman and Bigfoot out there. And some of the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: reports are actually like things like crashing into like bending
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: out like the tin or the aluminum and the chicken
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: coops and stuff like that. And like pounding into it
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and stuff. I know that sounds kind of weird, but yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: it's kind of typical.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. See, my brother... he had a kind
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of like a little tiny farm out there. He had
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: this tiny house that him and his girlfriend at the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: time had. And then he had this like small little
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like farm basically on like an acre. But he had like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you know, turkeys, he had this great big pig, goats,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: all these different animals. And I mean, who's to say
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that wasn't attracting something. Now, as far as I know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: he never had anything go missing, but there was times
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: whenever like the fence was kind of like, The fencing
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was kind of bent in an odd way. Not a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: way that one of the animals would have done because
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it was more at the top.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: So, you know, that's interesting.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Whenever Dad had that deal with the pole barn and everything,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: him and his buddy Dion, they were sitting out there
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: on Dion's side-by-side just talking.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And they started hearing this growling.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And then....
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden they heard that slap.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And then, like I said, how the, how it went back,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you know, and kind of like that, it's like, you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Sorry.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: And, um, so, you know, they were like, what was that?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And dad's like, I don't know. I'm going in.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I'm getting out of here. So that
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: was the end of them hanging out that night.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: But, um, it's been weird because now that I'm thinking
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: about dog, man, my brother, he had this weird encounter
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: out there. And he went to where basically over in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the area where we called the bluff, he went over
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that way on the farm. And that's like on the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: opposite end.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: And there's some woods over there and everything.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And then like past the bluff, our property and property
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: line ends just past the bluff. And then you've got
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: like this big, well, at least at the time, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: remember it was a big hunting club. And, um, so
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you got like, I want to say it was like
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a 500 acre hunting club. So, I mean, you got
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: all that land right there.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But he was over there and he, he said he
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: heard this growling and he hadn't got to the tree
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: line yet. Like he was probably, I don't know, 30.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yards we'll say. And, um, he kept hearing this growling
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and stuff. And he's just.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Like, it was, he was like, it was weird.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: He was like, I didn't know that, uh.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You know, Bigfoot could be on all fours going back
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and forth, kind of like a wolf or something. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, they can go on all fours.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, but what do you mean like a wolf?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And he was like, well, you know, the eyes, they
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: were kind of amber colored, you know?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, typical, right? Yeah. And then, yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: And then he said, yeah, he goes, and he's like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and I saw the eyes, you know, I saw him
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: raise up and I'm like, what, what happened? And he
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: was like, I just kept, I just kept hearing this
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: growling and everything. And I was like, well, what'd you do?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: He's just like, well, I got the hell out of there.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: He's like, I wasn't hanging out. Something did that. He
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm out.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: He was like, you go mess with Bigfoot. I'm like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: that's not Bigfoot.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You know? It was like, and he told me that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: before dad ever told me about the sighting. So it
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: was like, there was all these like could be before
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: dad actually said yes. And, um, and then like, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like with Bigfoot, man, it's like, I had that sighting, well,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to kick it off, for anybody who doesn't know my story,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: 2023 on Mother's Day, month of May, my wife wanted
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to go out to the farm and just do some foraging.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: So we went out there and we went behind my
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: cousin's place. He's been passed away at that point. He
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: died in 2018. But behind his house, there was a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: little bit of overgrown area. And then there was this field.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: The field had been dissed about a week and a half,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: two weeks before we got there. And whenever we were
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: going through the tall grass and everything to get to
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the field, because once you get to the field, you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: cut the corner and there's the woods. And we found this,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: what at first I thought was just like a deer
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: bedding spot. Didn't really think much of it, but what
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we discovered in the field makes me wonder if it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: was like a Bigfoot ambush spot, you know, I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: for hunting. Um, my oldest son, he was eight at
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the time. He got ahead of us and he goes,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Hey dad, there's footprints up here. He's like, somebody's here.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what? I get up there. I see
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the footprints and I'm like, all right, everybody hang tight.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to run back to the car and grab
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: my tape measure. Cause these were way bigger footprints than
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I have. And like I said, I were a 13.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I went and got my tape measure, measured amount. It
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: was 18 inches long by five and a half inches wide.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm like, okay, because I'm thinking, okay,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: this is three years after dad heard a roar.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It was a, uh, late summer day or evening, just,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: just about dark.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Um, and, uh, he was over at Jerry's house talking
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: with Jerry and, you know, birds chirping, uh, insects making
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: noise and across the road from Jerry's house, you There
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was a pack of coyotes that started going off. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, dad said something just went
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and just everything went dead quiet. And like hair on
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: his arm stood up and Jerry. And these are two
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: guys that do not scare easy. And they're like, what
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the hell is that? They never saw nothing. And it
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: only did the one roar. And that was it. So,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you know, dad told me about it the next day.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, you're going to think I'm crazy, but I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: swear I heard a Bigfoot roar. And I'm like, what?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Because even in 2015, I'm still not thinking Bigfoot and
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: so on.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Wrong. But, you know, but so that was, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: three years, no, not three years, eight years before we
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: found those prints. And that was basically a straight line
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: from where he heard that roar come from. So I'm thinking, OK,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: maybe dad did hear that. And what reason I said
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the thing about it being like a ambush spot where
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: we found what I thought was a deer bedding spot
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: at first. was we found this deer skeleton, but it
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: was unlike any kind of deer kill I've ever seen.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Like we came up on the back half, it completely clean,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like fully intact.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Wasn't spread out or nothing. Like coyotes got ahold of it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Then about 20 feet up, we found the front half
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and it was picked clean, except for the front legs
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: from like, say like the knee joint to the hoof,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: there was still fur right there. But other than that,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was almost like something got this deer,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: must've broke its neck, I would assume. And then just
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: ripped it in half. And, like, had part of it
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: over here, had part of it over there. I don't know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: But we found it. Very, very. And I've yet to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: see anything like that since out there. And I've yet
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to see, like, somebody just randomly post a picture of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: finding something like that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was the strangest thing.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It almost sounds like, you know, have you ever seen, like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: a cow that has been mutilated by potentially, like, UFO,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: alien activity, stuff like that? Like it's very precise. It's
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: kind of weird. Like it's, you know, that I'm not
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: saying that's what that was that y'all found by any means.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But but that is kind of weird. That is weird.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, you like that comment says that did say
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: they felt.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: That roar hit him in the chest. But like, you know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you were talking about like with the UFOs and stuff
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: in the documentary towards the end, we actually captured a
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: pyramid shaped UFO at night. And the footage is the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: IR footage because for whatever reason, Joe's regular like filming
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: camera could not pick it up really. well. Like you see,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like we were seeing like several red lights that would
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: like kind of go over and blink out. That's what
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: we were thinking. We were just seeing like orbs in
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the sky, you know? And, um, turns out Jason was
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: filming it with the IR. That's Joe's research partner. And, um,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: whenever they got back home and everything, um, Uh, Jason
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: was watching that footage on like his big 80 inch
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: TV and was like, oh my God, like that was
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: one thing.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: That wasn't several things. That was one big thing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And like what it was doing, the reason it looked
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like it was blinking out is because it was turning,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: but it was also turning this way too. So basically
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: like once it did its turn, it was almost like
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: an arrow. And that's weird because it was like it
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: was below where like a plane would be flying, but
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: still high up, like too high to be a drone
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I mean, just the sheer
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: size of this thing, knowing how far apart those lights
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: looked in the sky. This thing was massive. And like
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Scott Air Force Base is like, I don't know, hour
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and a half, probably from the farm, like a drive,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Which is not that far by air.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And you would think, you
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: would think that they would have like, there'd been like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: some kind of something coming to check it out or whatever,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like it would, it should have shown up
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: on radar.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It's probably one of the years.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But they never did.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Just saying.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: It might've been. It might've been. I don't know.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: That's what we're finding, Bryce, is like, they're like, all
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: these companies are admitting now that like Northrop, Northrop, I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: can't remember the full name, Northrop, I can't say their name,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Northrop Grumman or something like that. them and Lockheed Martin.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Lockheed is based near where I live in Georgia in Marietta.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: They've admitted that they are actually the ones who are
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: responsible for the Tic Tacs and these TR3Bs, whatever those
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: triangular craft and stuff. All the things that we thought
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: were ETs, I had my suspicions all along that they
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: weren't all ETs. But they make those.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they say something like, as far as, like,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the technology that we don't know about, we're, like, 200,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: 300 years ahead or.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Something like that. I mean, I believe it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Like, there was one person, this teacher I had in
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: high school, she said that she wished that she would have,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: what was it, invest in Star Trek-type technology.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Because, like, cell phones became a thing and all that
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you know?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And, like, the original.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: But.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so like 2023, we had those
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: prints we found. And like I said, they were 18
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: inches by five and a half inches wide. And it
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: was just weird, you know, because it was like, wow.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: So like we go into the woods and there was
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like this small stick structure and But it was definitely
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: something placed with purpose. It wasn't just like, you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: limbs that fell out during a storm or a high
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: wind or something like that or blew up against a tree.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Because these were like sticks, like the branches, well, they
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: weren't big sticks, you know what I mean? Like maybe
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: like knee, mid-thigh high, leaned up against a tree, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they were like stripped down straight, you know? And it
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: was just, I don't know, it was weird. And, um,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that was pretty much it for that year. But then 2024,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I had my sighting. Whenever I was taking my grandpa,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: he had dementia. By this point, grandma had already passed away. And, uh,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: my dad, he called me and said, Hey, can you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: bring pop out to the farm? I was like, yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: no problem. Took him out there, had my little man
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: with me. He was three at the time in his
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: car seat. And we just get into the farm, like
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: crossing the Creek and everything. And I'm only going like 20,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: 25 miles an hour. And I catch movement out of
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: my right eye. I look over and this is when
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I see this big jet black, possibly wet or maybe
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: just the way the sunlight was hitting it. Because this
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was 315 in the afternoon. It was roughly two weeks
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: before Mother's Day in 2024. It was just like digging
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: into the hillside.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: And that's what caught my attention was the arms.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Because it was like grabbing and thrashing back and turning
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: away from the road as it was thrashing back. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I never saw the face. But like I said, I've
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: got three sightings. We'll get into the third one that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: nobody's really heard about eventually. But it was just like,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: what is that? You know, like I'm looking at it
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: because I'm not thinking Bigfoot at first. And I was
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just like, that's too big to be a person. But
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: like still, I'm like, there's no way. There's no way.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm not.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Am I seeing Bigfoot? No way.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: And like I had to call a few people and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: talk to them, tell them what I saw to be like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: what do you think I saw? And they're like, dude,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I think you saw Bigfoot. And it's just like, OK,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: all right. I'll admit, OK, I'm going to go with
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that then, because it was just it was so big.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It was knelt down. And whenever I heard my car going,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it stood up and walked on in like further into
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the field.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: So it's backwards to me at the road.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Now, this thing was only like 65, 80 yards away
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: at the most. And I mean, it was just wild
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to see. And, um, so like I dropped grandpa off,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: told dad, I saw something big in the field and
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: he was just like, what? And I was like, nah,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: like big dad. Like I gotta go. Hurry up. Got
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: back in the car. It was gone by then. Where
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I think it went though, was this area that dad
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and me, we've called it a two mile woods. We
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: don't own it, but, uh, it used to be in
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the family through like some like distant cousins and all that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: But since then they sold out to the coal mine.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: We never did because, uh, we've had the farm in
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: our family since the 1860s. So, I mean, we're not selling,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you know, um, but, uh, and everybody who did, well,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: all their places are gone and all that land in
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the last 20 years has just grown up. So it's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: all woods, you know? And, uh, So, I mean, yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: stuff out there, but there's not a lot of people
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: out there. And, you know, it's pretty secluded for the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: most part. But, you know, I mean, it's wild. So, like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I go home, I tell my wife about what I saw.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: And she was like, well, you're going back in the morning.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: She's like, we're going to go back and we're going
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to see if we can't, if you can't find where
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: it was and get some pictures or something. I was like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: all right, cool. I mean, she's been super, super supportive
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of all this. And, like, you saw her in the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: documentary and everything, the stuff she was talking about and
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: everything like that.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did a great job, by the way. I
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was nervous, but she did great. I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: she had a good.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Time with it. And, you know, it's just weird because, like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I just keep thinking back. And, like, I've been co-hosting
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: on a show on YouTube this month with Paranormal Paul.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It's called Paranormal Among Us. And we talked to this guy,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Matt Lankford. I don't know if you know who he
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: is or not.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I love that guy. Yeah. I love that. He's a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: great guy. Yeah. He's a great guy.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Matt Lankford.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: He's a good dude.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: But his sighting, there was so many similarities between, with
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: him describing his sighting, whenever he was driving the semi
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: going down the interstate. Yes. That lineup of mine, his
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: was bigger, but that was about the only difference. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like it was even the same color. It had that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: shine to it, kind of like a horse's coat. And
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you know, when the sunlight hits it, um, like there
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: was a lot of similarities there. And that was what's
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: cool is because like hearing him, hearing other people talk
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: about their sighting, especially if it's a roadside sighting, um,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And the similarities, you know, it just drives it home
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: more and more to me that that's what I saw.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And so I go back there the next day. It
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: had rained that night. Not too bad, but enough. And so,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you know, my wife just stayed in the car with
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the kids and I walked out there into the field. Now,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the field, the coal company, like I said, the coal
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: mine bought everybody out because they were doing a long
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: wall underneath. So in that.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Field, it used to be flat until you got to
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the hill from the creek.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And now it's kind of, there's dips and everything where
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: there's been some subsidence and where this thing was at
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: was in one of those dips. So I'm five foot 10.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I was standing over there. I find it took me
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a while, but I found where it was at, took
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: pictures of the traction, measured them. They were 16 inches.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: So this is different from the 18 inch tracks. I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: didn't do the width though, but I found the hole.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I could still stick my hand in the hole and,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: And I was trying to figure out what it was after, though,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: because like it could have been maybe because of the rain.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Like maybe it washed out like little animal tracks or something.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And it just it's weird because I don't know what
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it was after. You know, it's like I don't know
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: if it was after like a small burrowing animal, a snake.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it knew there was some kind of a
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: rooting problem.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Plant there that it could grab and eat I don't
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: know because like I said it was on the leaner
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: side and with it being just turning May and all
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that I don't know if they migrate to the area
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: or not I don't think they do it seemed like
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: paying attention this year it only seemed like January and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: February we didn't really have a whole lot going on
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: out there but other.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Than that you know it's been activity Well, what kind.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Of crops do you guys have on your farm? I mean,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: you got like vegetables, you got berries and things like that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I would think maybe they're attracted to
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: whatever's growing that season, I would think.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Well, right now we got corn planted. The year before
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: we did.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Soybeans. And that's just like the farmland part. But, you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: dad's got his big garden and everything out there. Back
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: when my grandma and grandpa used to live out there,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: they always had a big garden. I mean, there's a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff out there. uh, you've got all kinds
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: of game deer, uh, wild turkeys, you know, your smaller
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: animals and whatnot that your prey animals just, I mean, it's,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: we've even got cougars out there.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Occasionally, occasionally, um, more so Bobcats, but my cousin Norman, um,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: his trail cameras, uh, got a cougar on it before, but.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: You asked me, was it like a mountain? Mountain lion?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It kind of looked like that, yeah. It wasn't black.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: It was the tan color. But, like, if you take
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it to, like, a fish and wildlife person, they're going
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to say, well, no, that's got to be a cat.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: We don't have those in Southern Illinois. And it's like,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: but you'll see people.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Like, talking about, like, yeah, they saw them literally releasing
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: them to take care of the deer population.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like, there's a lot.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Of deer still.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yeah. Okay.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: This is for entertainment purposes only. This is a, this
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: is just all hearsay.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's, there is a kind of a little
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: active coverup of some of these big cats and stuff.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: And I think some of the big cats might be
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: responsible for some of these suspected dogman attacks and stuff
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and people getting attacked, things jumping down from trees and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: people going, I don't, I don't know about people going
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: missing being taken by cats and stuff. I don't know
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: about that, but I think some of these, I think
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: people are getting, would get attacked by cats and it
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: could be misconstrued as like a dogman attack. Yeah. Or
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: mislabeled or whatever you want to call it.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So, so, you know, the weird thing about
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: when we went back that next day, like I said,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I was five, 10, I was standing there. Then I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: knelt down to get a little bit closer up pictures,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: trying to get a little more clear.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Cause it was kind of hard. Like you can make
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: out the one print for sure.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And the hole and what possibly could have been where
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: its knee was embedded down a little bit. But it
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: was what Amber said from the road. She said, well,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I was standing there. She could barely see me, like
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: basically like upper body. She could see. And then when
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I knelt down, she lost sight of me completely. Now,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I saw this thing. It was knelt down first before
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it ever stood up. That's why I'm saying has to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: be around the eight foot mark. because just how big
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: this thing was even from that distance. So, I mean, that's,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: that's why I say it's, it had to have been
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: around eight feet that, and I found a tree break
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: whenever I turned around.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Cause I'm like, okay, if it's right here, it had
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: to have.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Come from the Creek and I'm looking and you can
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: kind of still make out like where it looked like
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: some tracks were coming from the Creek. So I went
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: back there when I was hoping to find and get
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: a picture of was like where it stepped on, like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you know, the mud or whatever of the pond or
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the Creek bank. and got a good impression. You know
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: But that was all overgrown right there.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: You couldn't see anything. So I'm looking around and I
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: see this tree branch that's broke down. It was like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: 10 feet up in the air. And the reason I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: know that I used to work at home Depot. So
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I know what 10 foot board, I know what that is,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you know, and it wasn't just snapped down. It was
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: also twisted around a couple of times. So that tells
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: me intention and something with a thumb hand strength, all that. Um, so, um,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I get a hold of my buddy Joe, and I'm
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: talking to him, and I'm like, hey, man, so this happened.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And Joe, I knew he was making Bigfoot investigation videos,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: and he made a Big Muddy Monster documentary before. He
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: did a UFO documentary for the area. I knew he
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: was into this stuff and I knew he had all
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the cool gadgets to go squatching with because I hadn't
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: gotten none of that. I was like, yeah, man, come
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: on out. It took until 2025 for our schedules to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: line up. He came out and we shot an interview,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: an investigation documentary. It was just a one-hour documentary thing.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: The new one's an hour, but completely differently done. Um, just,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: this was just a YouTube video, um, out there. And, um,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: it got like first month that had like 12,000 views
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: or something like that. So he's like, let's go ahead
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: and make a full flesh documentary. And, um, and that one,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly didn't think anybody would watch the
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: first one. I mean, I was like, we'll be lucky
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: if we get 500 and I'm.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Just like, and I don't care, but like, you know, whenever,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: like the first day.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: It was like a thousand, I was like, what the hell?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. And then it got up
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to that. And then like, I don't know where the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: documentary is at now, like the new one, but last
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: time I looked, it was in like the, I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: 20 something thousands, but it's just cool because it's like
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: people are watching, you know, and the word's getting out.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's 58,000 right now.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: The new one is.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Just look, I just had it pulled up.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: It says 58,000.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: 58 K. So congratulations. You know what? That's one thing
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that I've learned is like a lot of people just
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: want to hear real life encounters and from an authentic,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: you know, first eyewitness, like an eyewitness point of view. And,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and that's really what people are looking for because they
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: want to, you know, a lot of people have these
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: encounters and stuff. They want to hear other stories that
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: are kind of like theirs. Like they're looking for answers
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And so that documentary is actually perfect for that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Because I think there's a lot of people, you know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I get contacted by people occasionally who have encounters kind
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: of like you had on your farm. And, and I just,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: like I said earlier, I was like, I recently went
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to an investigation right down the road from where I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: live and it was on a farm. And that woman,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: she was actually telling me stuff like she didn't, she
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't know anything about dog men at all, but she was,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the things that she was describing to me before I
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: went out to investigate her property, it was rough. 100
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: dogman activity and stuff and she was even talking about
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: how they she was she doesn't know that she never
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: even heard it like i said never heard dogman she
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: was talking about how at night she'll go outside and
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: they're up in the trees like she was like they
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: sit in the trees right here at night and stuff
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: and i was like man that's like what dogmen do
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: you know um so so uh it's just the stuff
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: is getting more common these days is what i'm it
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: also is another thing is that it yeah i And
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: it's more, I don't want to say like, dare I
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: say accepted or like people are just talking about it
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: more now, I guess, or maybe just the signings have
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: just gone up for whatever reason.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, one of those things I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: kind of, I don't know, it's always stuck out in
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: my mind and I'm not trying to get biblical on
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: anybody or anything. So I don't want to push none
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of that on anybody, but in the Bible, it does say,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: you know, towards the last days or whatever, like something
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: about like the beasts will rise and all that kind
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, maybe it's mentioning cryptids there. I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, because it does seem like, yeah, because
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: it does seem like, you know, there's been a big
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: influx in like what the last 10 years of just
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: sightings and everything, uh, maybe even more so the last
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: five years. It's crazy. Um, Yeah. So, you know, I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: There's been sightings in other areas out around the farm.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Whenever I did the conference last Saturday, the Southern Illinois
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot Conference, this lady came up to me.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: She knew right where the farm was and kind of
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: caught me off guard.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, what? But she told me where
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: she lived and I was like, oh, you're right next
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: to it. OK. And now I say right next to it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: The road is right next to it. But her house
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: is like. mile or two down the road from there.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: So she's not like close, close, but close enough. And
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: she knew my dad. So it was kind of a
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: good boy, but, um, it was weird. You know what
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I mean? She said that, you know, she goes, you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: she was like, I'm really glad that, you know, and
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you talking about this, which is weird. A
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: lot of people came up to me after I spoke,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: like telling me, thank you for talking about this and
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the Southern, you know, being here in Southern Illinois and everything.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: It's like bringing it home, you know? Um, And she
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: said that, like, you know, she goes, I don't know.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: She's like, but I have noticed at night here in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: like tree knocks. She was like, I never really thought
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: she's like, I thought it was a woodpecker. And I'm like, well,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: it sounds like a woodpecker. She's like, no, it's always
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: just like one solid knock or maybe a couple. It
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't like the repeated fast pattern. And I'm like, well, OK.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, she said, too, that like. she
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: would take her dog out at night and sometimes the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: dog would be whimpering the whole time and like hurrying
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: up and doing his business, you know, and then getting
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: ready to go right back in the house. So, you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: could it be Bigfoot out there? Could it be the
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: dog man out there? Um, there's a, another area that's
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: only as the crow flies from the farm, about three
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: miles and where it's at, there was this, uh, high
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: school kid. I saw, I posted on this, uh, town
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: over from where I live. Um, on their This Town
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Talk Facebook page. Of course, he got laughed at by everybody,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: but he had a sighting of one. The one he saw,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: the way he described it, it sounded a lot like
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: the one I saw. He's like, it didn't have a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: dog head or anything, but he said it was more
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: of a slender build. And, you know, this is all, like,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: right before I had my first sighting. So, like, maybe
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks before I had my first sighting, because
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I reached out to him. And I was just like, hey, man,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do you care to, like, tell me where?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: And he told me and I was like, man, I
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: looked it up on Google Maps and I was like, crap,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: that's not far at all from the farm. And then,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: like I said, you know, a couple weeks go by
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: and I have that sighting. But it was just weird
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: because it's like, OK. Interesting.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Farn Creek goes through that area, too.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You know, so. Yep. So that creek eventually leads and
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: empties into another creek that leads to the Big Muddy River.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Like somehow you got to follow it, the waterways and
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: all that, but eventually it goes to the big muddy river. And,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: but now, you know, it's just, there's a lot of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: weird stuff out there. And I think part of it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: because it's been so quiet the last 20 years. You
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: don't have near the people out there anymore. You don't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: have near the farm activity going on. And, you know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: like with our farm, It's been in our family so long.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I think that they're just used to us being there,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and like stuff like that. Like they know
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: what the people are doing there.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: One thing I've done whenever I go out and do research.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And whatnot, I'll do. I heard it on a podcast.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I can't remember which one, but it was a Native
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: American talking. And he was like, you know, if you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: want them there, when you go out, you know, they're there.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Go out, read them.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Call them force brothers and sisters, welcome.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Them, tell them your name, you know, tell them that,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like, like it's okay for you guys to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: be here.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I come in peace, all that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Um, I don't even go out armed, which a lot
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: of people think is stupid. And I mean, Hey, I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: kind of think it's dumb too, because you know, what
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: if I see a snake or something like that, you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You know, and you guys did get us, you did
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: get a snake in that documentary eating a fish. That
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: was a copperhead. Was that a copperhead?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I knew it. Oh, we got them all over out there.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. We got them all over out there.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of different poisonous snakes out there.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I hate snakes.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with snakes right now.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I can't tell them apart.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I can tell them mostly apart, but like, I've
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: been obsessed with snakes this past season for whatever reason. And, uh,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: and I just went hiking. Was that yesterday? Day before yesterday?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I guess it was.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was yesterday. I think I went hiking and, um,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: It was, first of all, my dog about had a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: heat stroke. It was really hot. But I was thinking, like, man,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I've been watching so many videos about snakes lately. I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: am bound to run into a snake on this hike today.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn it. Damn it, Jessica. Why do
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: you do snake videos? But I didn't run into any snakes.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: But the snakes are really bad right now, Bryce. Just
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: so you know.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: They're out in full force right now. Yeah, so be careful.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, definitely. I always got my big rubber boots
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: that come up to my knees, so. yeah hopefully that'll
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: protect me but uh maybe yeah maybe um i'm more
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: worried about one like dropping down and getting me like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: in a freaking.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Jungle movie or something like that you know don't.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Even put that out there don't even put that out
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: there i don't even think about that that's crazy and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: they're out at night too by the way they're out
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: at night Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Well, in the documentary, that was at night where he
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: caught that fish. I've never seen a snake catch a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: fish before. And like you could hear Jason in it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: He's just like, now I've seen everything. Oh my God.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I thought it was, I thought it was wild that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: you guys caught that. And the snake, I mean, it was,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: it was brutal. It was pretty brutal. So you guys
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: are going to have to watch the documentary.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: there and there's some stuff that'll make you laugh.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Cause I mean, I'm a goofy guy. So, and I'm,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: and I'm, you know, I'm.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Me the whole time. I'm not trying to play to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the camera or nothing.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm me.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And like, uh, Hey, William, what's up brother? Nighthawk. But, um, Yeah,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you know, it's working, though, that Native American greeting to them.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And I always do it every time. I'm like, hey,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, Forrest Brothers and Sisters, this is Bryce,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: just saying hey, you know, letting you guys know you're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: still welcome here. You know, telling them, like, hey, I'm
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: going to be out, you know, looking around if you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: guys want to make contact or give me a sign
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: of your presence or something. Always something happens.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: I'll either hear a knock, I'll hear a whoop, find some.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Prints, you know, something. Like, there's only been one time
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that I could really say something that I got skunked.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: And even then we still heard a knock. And I think,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. And this was for a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: video that we shot for this, uh, kind of like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a YouTube mini series Joe's doing called wood devils of
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  Speaker 1: Southern Illinois. Uh, the first episode of that one's me.
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  Speaker 1: And we were over in the bluff area. I was
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  Speaker 1: telling you about my brother had his encounter thing. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: once we got out of the bluff, which being a
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  Speaker 1: dad in the bluff, uh, That's really the only time
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  Speaker 1: I've been nervous out there, like, squatching, because we were
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  Speaker 1: literally in a perfect ambush spot. Because we're down, there's, like,
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  Speaker 1: this bluff's, like, 20 feet above us, you know. We're
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  Speaker 1: down here in the creek bottom, walking around, looking for prints.
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  Speaker 1: We found some prints, but they were old. Other things
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  Speaker 1: had kind of walked through them, too, you know, like deer, raccoon,
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  Speaker 1: things like that. So it was like, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at it, and it's like, well, I see something.
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  Speaker 1: And it looks big. But I can't really say it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing or the other, you know, because of all
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  Speaker 1: the other stuff. We also found some really weird prints
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  Speaker 1: in there. Could be a dog man.
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  Speaker 3: Could have been a cougar.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But they were washed out, of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but you can still make them out. They
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: were kind of, like, circular. But, I mean, you could
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  Speaker 1: put a softball in that and still have, like, the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: circle was still going around it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like, it was big. So, whatever that was,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But... Like, yeah. So like we get out of that and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Joe's like, Bryce, hurry up, get over here.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I had the parabolic. He goes, hurry up and
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  Speaker 1: get over here. I think I heard, or he's, I
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  Speaker 1: heard something moving through the woods over here. And it
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  Speaker 1: was like this like little, like small, just like outlet
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  Speaker 1: of woods coming out of like that bluff area. And
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  Speaker 1: then you had another field and then he had a
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  Speaker 1: tree line over that way, um, across that field and
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  Speaker 1: that tree line, that's a property line also. Um, I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: don't cross property lines. Like my farm, 642 acres. I've
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  Speaker 1: got plenty of area to look around. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: to be crossing on somebody else's property. If I ever
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  Speaker 1: do it unknowingly, you know, I apologize, but so far
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  Speaker 1: nobody's contacted me saying I did. So I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: I'm staying on the farm.
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  Speaker 2: You better get out of there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we are 911 out there, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like getting shot because I'll shoot back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Most people don't call 911 down here in
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  Speaker 2: the South. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Um, but like, so like I had this, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spotlight kind of deal and I'm shining over there.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I, I, I saw at first what I thought
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  Speaker 1: was an orb.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I noticed like it was going behind the tree
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  Speaker 1: and then coming back out. And I'm like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: something's playing peekaboo. But like, it was just like the
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  Speaker 1: light would just get to the tree line, but not
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  Speaker 1: penetrate the tree line. But we're also, gosh, I would
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  Speaker 1: have to say a couple hundred yards away. you know,
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  Speaker 1: from where that tree line is. So, and I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: it could have been shorter, but like, it just looked
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  Speaker 1: like something was playing peekaboo. And I kept telling Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I was like, I think something's
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  Speaker 1: over there. I'm like, but I can't really tell, you know?
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, in all this grass and everything, we
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: were up to our chest in grass, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: it's all just overgrown right there because it's in that
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: set-aside program over there on that end of the farm.
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  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, We just was like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we aren't hearing anything. Yeah, that's weird, but whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we had a kind of a big group
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  Speaker 1: with us because my dad was there.
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  Speaker 3: My uncle was there. Then my uncle invited some of
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  Speaker 3: his friends out.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like, you've got us three, me, Jason
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  Speaker 1: and Joe trying to do research here. And you've got
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  Speaker 1: everybody else making back, you know, making noise in the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: background laughing. It's kind of like a party, you know?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: So it's just like, crap. But yeah, You know, so
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that's going on. So we're just kind of like, well, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But whenever he put that episode out
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  Speaker 1: in the comments, I was reading them. Somebody saw what
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I saw. It looked like something was playing peekaboo over there.
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  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like, all right, good. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: else saw that, you know? So it makes me feel
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  Speaker 1: better and not think I'm crazy or just like every,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like, it's really easy to suddenly think everything's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot out there. You know what I mean? But you
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  Speaker 1: got to have a mind of, I've got to try
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  Speaker 1: and debunk this first. I've got to try and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what could this be before we ever even begin to think, okay,
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  Speaker 1: could it be Bigfoot or whatever, you know? Right.
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  Speaker 2: No, you always got to debunk it, Bryce. That's great.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way you're thinking with that. Yeah. Because
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the first things that I learned when
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  Speaker 2: I first I inadvertently got on a Bigfoot research team.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to. Okay. But it just happened. And,
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  Speaker 2: and that was, that was one of the first things
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  Speaker 2: they taught me. They're like, everything is not Bigfoot out here.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is not a cryptid. There's a lot of explanations
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  Speaker 2: for things. And even like some of the sounds and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: the screams and all that kind of stuff, like a woman,
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  Speaker 2: what you think is like a woman screaming in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of times that's a cat, you know,
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  Speaker 2: or something. I mean, they, they sound like humans. I,
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  Speaker 2: I actually was like reposting some like cougar mountain lion
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  Speaker 2: yells and stuff this week on my social media. Cause
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  Speaker 2: I was like, people need to hear this. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a woman in distress, you know? and that kind
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: of stuff so and.
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  Speaker 1: I heard that out there me and Amber heard that
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  Speaker 1: out there on her birthday but really here's how we
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  Speaker 1: know it wasn't a cougar yeah so it was her
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  Speaker 1: birthday November 23rd this last year and she wanted to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: go it was a Sunday she wanted to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and have a bonfire.
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  Speaker 2: That was my brother's birthday, November 23rd. Yes, my brother.
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  Speaker 2: He passed away 20 years ago. Yeah. So that's wild.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. That's wonderful. They have the same birthday. That's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: how I know she's a good person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 3: She is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Love that. Love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was really foggy that day. Like some of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the worst fog I've ever seen. Right. I know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's something. Oh, yeah. Foggy.
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  Speaker 3: And you heard Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Foggy and I heard Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: But this was creepy, kind of, because of the fog
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: more so than anything. But, like, if you remember from
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the last time I was on, whenever Dad would have
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: fires going and stuff like that at night, he would
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: always have, like, encounters. Like, he would get whistled at,
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  Speaker 1: stuff kind of thrown over by him, hear tree.
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  Speaker 3: Breaks, you know, mimic of owls.
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  Speaker 1: That was whenever he heard that train whistle mimic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So we get there and like in Southern Illinois in
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the winter, it gets dark at five o'clock. So we
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: got there about four 30 and, uh, dad already had
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  Speaker 1: the fire going. So we were sitting there, he was
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: talking with us for a little while. And then he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: went into the house, I guess go eat dinner or
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: something like that. So me and Amber are just sitting
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  Speaker 1: out there and we're just watching the fire talk and
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  Speaker 1: just enjoying the night. All of a sudden from over
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  Speaker 1: my left shoulder, uh, But it sounded way back. And
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  Speaker 1: this was powerful. We just heard, like you described, sounded
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  Speaker 1: like a woman screaming bloody murder, like she was being
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  Speaker 1: murdered or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, it was insane.
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  Speaker 1: And but it went for like a solid 10 seconds.
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  Speaker 1: And the power in this, it was just like you
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  Speaker 1: could feel it, you know. And Amber's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: immediately like, oh, my God, what was that? I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? And this is where it gets
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  Speaker 1: weird because shortly after that, I don't know how long,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: within like a minute, there was a return whoop from
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: over on that side of the road because the fire
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: pit's on the other side of the road by where
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: the pole barn is and all that stuff. And we
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: heard it. And I was on another podcast and Bo
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Kennedy was the host. I don't know if you know
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: him or not.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Good guy.
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  Speaker 1: But he, whenever I described the return call, the return whoop,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: he said it sounded almost like a Bigfoot yes deer.
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  Speaker 1: Because it was like, it did.
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  Speaker 3: It just sounds just like whoop.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I know that sounds ridiculous,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: but that is the only way to describe what we heard.
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  Speaker 2: He sounds annoyed.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, really.
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  Speaker 1: He's sick of it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: He's sick of everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever she did, she wasn't doing something he wanted her
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: to or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And so this is happening. And right as
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: this is happening, one of her friends pulls up because
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: we invited a bunch of people to come out and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: celebrate Amber's birthday. But with it being on a Sunday,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: you know, only her one friend, but it was her
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: oldest friend. So that worked out. She got there. And
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: we're like, hey, in case we're acting really weird, this
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: all just happened. And this girl's like, OK, she doesn't believe.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, whatever. And yeah, Ricky Ricardo. But,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: you know, so she's sitting there talking with Amber.
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  Speaker 3: Amber's calmed down at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to alert because I'm like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I've got something screaming over here
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  Speaker 1: that I've got this thing whooping over here. It's better.
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  Speaker 3: So from the fire pit.
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  Speaker 1: To the wood line, you've got about 20 yards of just,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you know, just field, but it's just like grass. You
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like we don't plant right there.
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  Speaker 1: We just mow it. And then you've got the tree line.
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  Speaker 1: So to my left, I'm hearing bipedal footsteps coming through
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  Speaker 1: the woods towards the tree line, center and the right.
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  Speaker 3: So there's three sets.
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  Speaker 1: Plus we heard the one over there. I'm thinking there's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: four of them out there on the farm. Because of
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: this experience? Because I'm assuming the one that I heard
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: do the return was probably the one coming up on
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the right. Because it would have just crossed the road
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: and then came up in the woods. It's not like
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: it's just going to walk up the road. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: think it was. So I'm like, okay. And what made
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  Speaker 1: it so creepy was the fog. Because I'm like, I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: can't see. I can see the fire, the glow, and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: that's it. And whatever's out there looking my way could
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: probably see me standing there.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Because the fire's standing right by the fire. And it
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: just got really creepy feeling, right? And I, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Amber heard the footsteps because I asked her afterwards. I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: didn't want to ask her whenever her friend was sitting there.
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  Speaker 1: But I asked her, she was like, yeah, I heard it.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, I just kept talking with Natalie and,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: you know, just uh trying to ignore it.
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  Speaker 5: Trying to ignore it yeah yeah and uh so i'm
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  Speaker 5: just sitting there and i mean i'm looking around but
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: like nothing well at least that i know of nothing
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: came out of the woods and.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Nothing got thrown at us but you just you knew
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: you were being watched you know and um dad he
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: came out saying oh uncle danny called he had shot
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  Speaker 1: a deer he lost it so i gotta go look
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  Speaker 1: for it And I'm like, well, where are you going?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: He pointed in that direction of where we heard that scream.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, dad, you might want to like, you know,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: pack some heat or something, you know, like extra flashlights, whatever,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: because we just heard this over there.
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  Speaker 3: And he was just like, oh, you heard that too?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you heard it tonight? He goes, I didn't
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: hear it tonight.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: He's like, I was in the house.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: He's like, but I've heard that before.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: And he's like over there, kind of behind our old house.
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  Speaker 1: We used to live in a pole barn house. And
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it seemed like it came back
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: from over in that general area. And he was like, yeah,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: that's where I got to go. And I was like, oh, great. So,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: you know, so he grabbed his John Wayne gun, he
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: calls it. And he had that on him. And then
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: he had a machete and he had his flashlights. And well,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: one's a spotlight and it's flashlight. But he was going
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: to look for this deer. And so I'm like, well,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I'm like, well, you got your phone.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, call me if anything happens and I'll I'll
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: head that way.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, what am I going to do?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I got nothing. Whatever. I'm going to go that way.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: And so he encountered something over there, but he called
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: it the warbler.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: And if you remember from the last time I was on.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had the first time I did the Native
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: American greeting and all that, and I asked for a sign,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I heard this weird sound coming from the creek area.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: And it sounded like, like the way I describe it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: is if like your voice sounded like a belly growl,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: like that was your voice and you were mumbling.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, but me and dad were
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: describing the same thing. We just didn't know it at
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Because whenever I did it, you know, whenever I was
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: doing the interview for Joe's documentary, for the new documentary.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: He was listening to me do it.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: He goes, that's the warbler.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: And I go, wait a minute, that's what you were
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: talking about? So we've heard the same one.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: But he said he heard it over in that direction.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: So was it that one I heard scream? I don't know. But,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: you know, it was weird because he said he heard
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: it and he's like, he found the deer. And then
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I guess it was wounded but not dead. And it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: got up and ran off. And he never did find
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: out where it went because it just took off. And
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: he was just like, the.
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  Speaker 3: Hell with this because he heard the warbler. You know,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: he was like, I'm going back to the house.
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  Speaker 2: The warbler probably got the deer, I bet.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. It really wouldn't surprise me.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: That's wild. You know, your dad, not only his experiences,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: he's given them nicknames.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: That is crazy. I love that. Like your dad, he's
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: just like, I didn't tell you this, but I mean,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: I already have nicknames for these things. And, uh, does
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: that make you feel better or, or, or does it
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: weird you out that your dad has been experienced that too?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: He's experienced all that.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: It's if anybody was going to experience anything out there
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: besides me having my sightings and the stuff and looking
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: for it, it'd be him because he's been out there,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: you know? Um, And, I mean, so every day, because, like,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: you know, Dad, he was disabled back in the late
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: 90s from a back injury he suffered whenever he was
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: a deckhand on the barge lines. So he's been disabled
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: since then. Like, he was my age whenever he got hurt. So,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, now he's late 60s. So, I mean, you know,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: he's been out there. And just now that he knows
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: the sounds and everything to pay attention for, he's realizing
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: what he's been hearing this whole time.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: So does it weird me out? No, not really.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: It makes me feel better, actually, because it's like I'm
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: not the only one out there experiencing things.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: Seeing things he is too so it's like okay it's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: not just like oh yeah what bryce see today you
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: know what i mean it's like dad's like hey guess
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: what i heard you know or or when he had
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: that dogman sighting so you know it's it's weird, but it's,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: it's so far it's been positive.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: We haven't been attacked or anything like that. We haven't, um,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: the dogs haven't been attacked. I did find out though.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Cause I remember the last time I was on, you
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: asked me about like back when we used to have
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: cattle and everything, if we ever had any cattle go missing.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: And I said, no, at the times I didn't think
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: we did. But whenever we were filming that wood devils episode,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: my uncle Danny was saying that we had that not
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: very often, but, You just have a cow. It could
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: be a full size cow or a calf just disappear.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: It was like no way to tell how it got
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: out because there was like no broken fence, no open gate,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: nothing like that. And there was no trace of it.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It was just like it was there one minute and gone.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: You know, may that be UFO activity doing that? But
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: it's weird because it's like. You know, the farm, it
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: sits on the 37th parallel. There's some kind of to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: do about the 37th parallel. I don't know what it is.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I think it might be where the pyramids in Egypt
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: are or something like that. But that might have been 33rd.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: But I remember Joe kept talking about that a lot.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: So that's why I pay attention to it. But, you know,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird area.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Like thinking back on things from like childhood, you know,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: out there, it's like, these things have been there. And
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: grandma having her sighting back in 1963, you know, it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: just like, that's the oldest sighting I have.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: If I would have known about this stuff.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Being there, I would have asked my great grandma back
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: when she was alive, because she was alive until I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: was like 21 or 22. And, you know, she'd lived
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: out there pretty much her whole life.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, she could have told me all kinds
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: of stuff. But, granny was.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Also the type of person they probably would have just
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: not told me you know what i mean be like
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: oh those don't exist or whatever you know i mean
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: you never know maybe but she was tight-lipped you know
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: she was an old school.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Teacher is she the one that's.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Called okay so your grandma's the one who saw the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: honey bear right yeah that's your grandma yeah okay yeah.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: She called it a honey bear and i found out
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: later that was a term by old-timers used for bigfoot
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: so i was like oh okay and um And like,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: whenever I was talking to Martin Groves, telling him about that,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: I said, honey bear. He was like, yep, honey bear.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: That's, that's one of the, one of the terms for me.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, that's an old folks term. And I was like,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was like, grandma was like 83 or 84,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: wherever she passed away. So, and then my great grandma,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: she was 99. But like I said, I never got
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: to talk to her about it. Cause I just never,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: you know, wasn't into it really back then. Didn't really
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: think much about it, especially being there on the farm. And, um, yes.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: I never heard. I never heard about. Bigfoot's being called
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: honey bears before until you told us that. And now
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I've heard it a couple of times. I've heard it
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: more than just your grandmother calling that now.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've heard it on a couple of podcasts and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: it was like old timers talking. And then one guy
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: was like probably in his fifties talking about it and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: he called him a honey bear.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I mean, it's just a weird area.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Cause like, I mean, UFO sightings, cryptids, ghosts and the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: ghosts is family because it's in dad's house. It used
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: to be my, uh, my grandma's house. So, I mean,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: but it's like her, my, my great uncle and my
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: great grandpa are there.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: Um, and you know, it's, it's weird.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: It's kind of, kind of creepy.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: I can appreciate that. At least it's familiar basically.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, like, yeah, but don't open a beer
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: in the house.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Cause I did that. And the picture that was on
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: the wall that hadn't been.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Off the wall ever. Fell into the middle of the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: living room floor. And it wasn't like it fell down,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: hit the couch and bounce. It just came off the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: wall right there. Right after I cracked it open, like
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: first one, I'm like, I'll take it outside. You know,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Cause granny didn't allow drinking in her house.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: She was pro prohibition, right? She was like, yeah.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: One of the funny things was my great-grandpa and his
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: brother used to run Moonshine.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know, his brother.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Would make it and then he would go and collect
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: it and drop off and all that stuff and get
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: the money and whatnot. But, you know, times were different
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: back then. Yeah, they were. No, like, so this third
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: sighting I've had, It was weird. It wasn't on the farm.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I do a radio show. Right now I'm off the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: air because football season is going on. The station on
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: my time slot on Friday nights covers Murfreesboro High School football.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: And then they'll have a month off and then they'll
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: do basketball.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: So I'm only on the radio like six months out
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: of the year, usually spring and summer.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: But this was my next to last show. So it
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: would have been early August.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm going home.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: It's after lunch. But after 11, I went and watched
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: a band play in town first. And then there's me
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: and one other car. And we're both heading towards DeSoto.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: And so we're on Highway 51 and it's pitch black
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: out there. Like I said, it's just me and this
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: one other car travel in the same direction. And I'm
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: about four or five car lengths behind it. And they
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: got their brights on. All of a sudden, they slam
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: on their brakes. So I hit my brakes. And I'm
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: looking in their headlights and stuff. I'm trying to see
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: if it's like a deer or something. And what I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: see is something humongous in front of their car and
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: then bound from in front of their car to the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: side of the road and gone. And I just got
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: a side profile. This thing was way bigger than what
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I saw on the farm. And I mean, it was
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: it was brown hair, very muscular, very like incredible whole muscular,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you know, and it just poof gone. Well, those people
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: in front of me gunned it after that. I mean,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: they were gone, you know, like they took off. They
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: had been going like 90 miles an hour. And me,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, look, and I'm like, whoa, you know, because
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: like where it was going, you would go over a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: train track and then you're back into woods. And there
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: was a small creek running through there, too. Now, where
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: that area is, Murfreesboro is only like five miles west
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: of there, and that's where the Big Money Monster sightings were.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: And there's Bigfoot sightings all in that area still to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: this day. Whenever I was on a podcast, I don't
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: remember which one it was, but a couple of people
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: local to that area reached out to me talking about
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: sightings that either they or their family had had within
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: the last five years. And was asking me, do I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: think it's the big money monster? You know, I'm like, well,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: what color was it? And they say brown, black. Well,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: the big money monster was kind of a white or
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: very light tan. I'm like, I don't think it's that one.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, it could be in the same family
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: of the one that was that was seen back in
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the 70s. You never know. But then I saw that
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy crap. So, you know, so I've
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: had three sightings now. And I feel confident saying that
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: what ran in front of their car was a Bigfoot.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: But why did it run in front of the car
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: whenever there was only two cars going? It had to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: have seen us going down the road. So I don't
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: know why it did that. I mean, they didn't stop
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: like they saw a deer. You know, I mean, they
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: stopped because this thing was coming across. So I don't know.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Well, usually they want you to if they slow down
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: enough for you to see them, they want you to
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: see them a lot of times. That's what I think.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: It's so, it's so rare to get a sighting like that.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool actually.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I, I mean, I've only talked about that
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: one like a couple of times, you know what I mean?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: Because it's like, you know.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Like why, why did I see that? You know what
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I mean? It's like now it's three times, like what's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: going on? Like it's not even on the farm, you know?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's weird. Definitely have found evidence, like, you know,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: walk in, like in giant city, walking the trails and stuff,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: and you go off the.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Trail a little bit. I try not to go too
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: far off the trail because I will get lost.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: But, um, you just, all you gotta do is look
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: at the trees and stuff and just find, you know,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: breaks and things like that that have a twist to them.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, if you find a break that's got a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: twist to it, to me, that's not weather, that's not
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: a squirrel or something else, you know? I mean, it's,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: you know, as long as it's high up enough. And, um,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I found the stuff and it's like, well,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: you know, and then I saw that. So I'm like, okay,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: you know, this is, I mean, giant city would have
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: been the opposite direction I was going, but as much
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: ground as those things can cover, I mean, it's within
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the area, you know.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me what is, what is giant city? Wait,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: first of all, before you answer that, Jim Weaverling, thank
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: you for that super sticker. You are the best. I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: appreciate you so much. Thank you for your support, Jim. Okay,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: what is Giant City? I know you said, we were
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: talking about this the last time you came on, but
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Is this an actual town, or is
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: it a nickname for something? Like, what is Giant City?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Well, there's theories about that. It's the nickname for, like,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: the state park right there. You know, it's all woods.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many thousands of acres it is,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: but there's a bunch. I even think it's probably part
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: of the Shawnee National Forest. It's just miles and miles
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: away from the big part of the Shawnee National Forest
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: down by Harrisburg. It's a really cool place. You can
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: go in there. There's all kinds of hiking trails and
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: There was an old stone.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: Fort built back there.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: There's... I was trying to think. I've never really heard
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: why they called it Giant City. But one could assume
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: whenever they were developing it and stuff, because there was
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: this group of people. My great-grandpa, my grandma's dad, he
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: was part of them. It was for, like, out-of-work men,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: you know, like like servicemen and things like that. Um,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: they would, uh, work for, I guess the government paid them.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: It was some kind of like three or four letter deal,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: you know? And, um, my guess is, and this is
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: just my guess. Cause I haven't, I don't have anything
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: to back this up, but maybe whenever they were like,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: you know, blowing up these hillsides and whatnot, maybe they
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: were blowing up mounds and they were finding giant bones.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: It's just like, Because why else call it that?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or maybe they had Bigfoot sightings.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: You know? And they called it, like, maybe they were like, oh,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: it was forest giants. You know? I don't know. Or,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: Well, you're right in the heart of, like, where all
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: the mounds are. And so there's so many mounds out there.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: And so am I, Aaron Jordan. I was actually where
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: the car show was today that I was at. It's
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: in Cartersville where the Etowah Indian mounds are. I was
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: maybe five minutes from the Etowah Indian mounds. Like, the
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: biggest mound.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Complex down here in in georgia first of all they're
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: huge and uh there's yeah there's there's giants there were
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: giants all over the place all these maintenance stuff and
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: uh i.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Mean the history is not far from the farm really
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: it's basically yeah basically it's right on the other side
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: of scott air force base not too far and so
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: i mean it's like you know an hour 40 45
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: minutes hour 45 minutes away from the farm maybe um.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Okay and i mean you know.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. My wife thinks that there might be
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: something like that out there on the farm. I mean, hey,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: who's to say? I don't know.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, Bryce, I had almost forgotten. I've been to
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Southern Illinois. I was in Grafton. That's in Illinois, isn't it?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's North Illinois.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Is that Illinois?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Illinois.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: It's more like the Metro East type area. It's over
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: kind of by Alton, I think, and that's a really
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: haunted town.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: It was very, we were, we sit at the pier.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Was it the pier Marquette resort or something like that?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: And Beth was there. Beth's in the chat. Beth was there.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: We actually went out at night and we did like big,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: we did some like Bigfoot stuff. It wasn't like scouting.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there for a Bigfoot conference. I was speaking
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: on Bigfoot at a conference, but it wasn't a Bigfoot event.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: But at night we would go out there. My friend
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: James Rink was there. Joe B was there too. He's
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: a famous boxer. Y'all probably know Joe Joyce. But anyways,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: we went out there. There was a whole bunch of
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: us out there, actually. And we were, there was some
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot activity out there while we were out there late
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: at night and stuff. It was wild. And that was
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: in Grafton, of all places. And there is a very
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: rich history over there of a lot of high strangers,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: including the Piazza bird. That weird chimera thing that's over there.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this podcast. So they're from Grafton, actually.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Grafton.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hollow Sky podcast. Steve and Kyle, they're buddies
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: of mine. I was on their podcast. They were like
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: one of the first ones I did, you know. And yeah,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: they live over there. And they were talking about whenever
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: the Finding Bigfoot people were there. and, like, Kyle, not Kyle,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Steve even said, he was like, yeah, he's like, it
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool and all, it's like, yeah, we've had
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot sightings, he's like, but I kept thinking to myself,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: they need to go further south, and, yeah, it's like, yeah,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: come further south, they're down here, because he was thinking
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: with Shawnee, and, like I said, you know, Shawnee's not
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: that far away from the farm, so, you know, it's, it's,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird area, Seminole, Illinois, there's a lot
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: of tree coverage, you know, forests and whatnot. Cause I mean,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: you got to figure too, like you go up maybe
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: past Salem and you're heading North. And I mean, it
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: turns into just flat like cornfields, you know what I mean?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: The rest of the way until you get up around Chicago. And, um,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: but down here in Southern Illinois, because of the glaciers
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: during the ice age, they pushed everything and all that stuff,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: you know, at least that's what my teacher told me
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: in grade school. So don't quote me. But, you know,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: that's why the area topographically is the way it is
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: down here.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: And I mean, there's all kinds of things that, you know,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: could be in these woods, you know.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: I just heard over the weekend, the last weekend at
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: the conference, I heard about this place over in the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Shawnee called the Shawnee Vortex. And basically, I don't know
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: if it's a portal or what, but a lot of
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: high strangeness happens over there in that area. where this
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: vortex supposedly is.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: I've never been there, but I heard, but I've heard
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you something real quick? Because Thursday night
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: I had Jerry Millwood Jr. on the show and he
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: is with North Carolina Investigates. Wonderful fella. And he's a
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: good friend of mine. And, and I had done some
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: remote viewing and my team had done a little, some
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: of my team had done some remote viewing for his
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: property where he lives in North Carolina. And part of
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: that data included, he'd been there. By the way, they
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: went out on an investigation last night, and it's not
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: for me to tell anything, but they had some serious
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: activity last night and sent me some amazing evidence. I'm
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: not going to talk about it, but let me just
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: tell you, there's a lot of stuff going on on
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: his property, and they have video evidence of it now.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: But we're talking about Bigfoot, Dogman, Pell Crawlers, maybe aliens,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: all sorts of weird stuff going on there. But in
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: the data, we were picking up on, I picked up
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: on personally, a vortex of and uh and it's a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: spiraling vortex that was in the data like that's what
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: i was seeing there on his property was a spiraling
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: vortex and i i feel like that was like some
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: sort of a portal where these entities are coming in
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: and out of maybe not all of them but some
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: of them uh were definitely coming in and out of
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: there and i asked him i was like did you
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: do you ever have any like kind of wonky you
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: know dizziness and like do you ever hit an area
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: on your property where you feel like off kilter you
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: know and uh because i feel like that's where the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: vortex would be That's what I told him. But anyways,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I think that sits on sacred land a lot of times.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guarantee the Shawnee National Forest, there
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: was Shawnee Indians there. And I'd say that was probably
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: the Indians that were on the farm, too. I don't
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: know for a fact. I'd have to ask. Well, the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: person that would know is dead. So he was one
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: of my dad's best friends. Yeah, he was big into
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Native American stuff. And he had like one of the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: most impressive arrowhead collections I'd ever seen in my life.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah. Wow.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: Man, I want to come up and hunt for arrowheads sometime, man.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: I love arrowheads.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Come on up. Bring your group.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I will take you up on that.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: I'll bring a couple of guys.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: I'll bring Tadza up there. That's my Tadza team. David
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Pardue has been in the chat. He's an old school Bigfooter,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: by the way. His main area is Uari. But he's
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: one of the best Bigfooters I know, actually. And yeah,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: I'll have to come up there sometime. I've never been,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to say I've never been to Illinois.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: I have been to Illinois. I've never gone seriously researching
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: in Illinois before, though. So that would be something else.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Most people wouldn't think to.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: We hear about it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I mean,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: cause you think that, well, a lot of the normies
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: would think that Bigfoot's just up in the Pacific Northwest,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: but I mean, all throughout the Appalachians and, you know,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: I live down at the very bottom tip of the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Appalachian mountains down here in Georgia. And, and I do
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of my research up in the North Georgia
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: mountains right up there, the heart of that. I mean,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: to me, that's the heart of the Appalachians, even though
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: it's the Southern part, but we, we have, There's more
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Bigfoots in North Georgia than anywhere I've ever investigated.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, I believe it.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Anywhere.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: And there's more. Now we're getting more dogman sightings in
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: northwest Georgia than I've ever I've ever imagined. It's crazy.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the what the deal is with
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: the uptick in all the dogman encounters are right now.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Is there a lot of rivers? Because I was talking
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: with a guy that's going to be coming out, Miguel
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: from Sasquatch Theory. Him and Paul and the two guys
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: from Half-Inch Wrench Crew, they're all going to come out
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: this fall. We were trying to do it this spring,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. But after the corn
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: crop gets cut and everything, they're going to come out, everybody,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: and we're going to camp out, do overnight investigation, spend
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: the weekend out there, see what all we can find
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: and encounter and whatnot. And me and him were talking
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: about it, and we got on the subject of Dog Man,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Cause I told him, you know, uh, that.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: Dad, what dad saw. And he was like, man, he goes,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: I believe it.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: He was like, cause, uh, he was telling me like
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: the way that he would go to get to the farm.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: He was like all through that area. And, you know,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: it's just like where this river is.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: I can't remember if it's the Mississippi or if it's
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: a different one, it had to be the Mississippi.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: It had to be Mississippi, Missouri. Um, but like there's
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: been a ton of dogman sightings through there on both
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the Illinois and Missouri side. And it's like, they seem
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: to be like, they're following the river. Well, yes, you
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: take that. Okay. That river and everything. You've got the bottoms.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: The bottoms are over just on the other side of Murfreesboro.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: They start making their way through. They follow the wood line.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Eventually they're going to get to the farm or wherever
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: out in that general vicinity, you know, um, So I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: think they're following the rivers and just expanding out because
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: it's wooded, it's protected, so they can roam, you know. Yeah.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: But I think there's like massive packs of them doing that. No,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me if there's, you know, two
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: or three at a time, you know, because like I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: started hearing stuff about people talking about Dogman where it's
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: like you might see one, but it's almost like in
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: the first Jurassic Park movie, Where it's like you're looking
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: at the one and then here's the other one. It's like, oh,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: clever girl. You know, you don't, you know, it's like
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing about that stuff. So I'm just like, ooh,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: packs of dog meat, like small packs. That's not, no.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: So I hope it's only one out there on the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: farm and I hope it's gone, but I don't think
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: it is. but, uh, yeah, this fall, I'm going to
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: be hitting it really hard because like I said, right now,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: everything being cornfields, I just can't really get out in
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: my normal spots that I go.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: And, you know, like I said, searching the bluff.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Area, that was whenever I said it was kind of
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: like a bus, but not really, it's just not the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: activity and the findings I'm used to.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: So it's like, I'm almost spoiled, I guess you could.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Say out there, but, um, I'm ready to get back
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: at it. And like, I talked to my dad, he's
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: getting some equipment and everything that we're going to have
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: out there for like GoPros, thermals and things like that.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm also going to, there was these guys,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: they're from, well, their research area is the Shawnee, the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: Squatchers is what they're called.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: They'd be great for you to have on your show, actually.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Jim and Joe, really good guys. I was talking
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: with them And they told me, you know, just get
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: some audio recorders. They're like, if you're out there on
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: the farm, you know, you can have one going like,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, strap a tear or whatever, have one going,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: going the whole time. Or if you're just sitting out
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: there with your dad by a fire, you know, have
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: it recording, whether you pick up anything or not, because,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: you know, who's to say something like what happened with
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: me and Amber on her birthday wouldn't happen again. And
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: then we've got audio evidence of it happening, you know,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: and it's just stuff like that that like, I never
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: even thought about, you know? So it's like, they're really
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: good guys. They're more than happy to share their knowledge
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: of things. Oh, and there you go.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: There's five out there in the Shawnee.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: It's I've, I've heard some audio from there and it's very,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: very impressive. So it's like, okay, so I'm going to
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: go out with them eventually. it'll probably be this fall.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Cause I'd like to wait for the snakes.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: To go away.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Oh man. That's not good.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: No, the rattlesnakes are out everywhere.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know we had rattlesnakes here.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: And then there was a couple of people that I
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: was talking to at the conference that were just like
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: regular attendees, but they were talking about, Oh yeah. Well,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: if you go down to Shawnee, be careful because there's,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: there's pygmy rattlesnakes down there. I'm like, You ain't got
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: to worry about me going there. He's like, I hate snakes.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Just wear your big boots.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: You'll be all right.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just wear my big boots and keep the
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: light down on the ground instead of flashing around through
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the trees. Might walk right by one. Oh, man.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: So you said the Shawnee National Forest goes right up
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: to your property?
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: It's pretty close. There's a set of train tracks that
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: go from the Shawnee that connect to the train tracks
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: that go to the coal mine and that runs right
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: through the farm on the uh north end and so
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: my theory is that was how they got there now
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: those train tracks they went you know before they before
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: they reconnected to the coal mine now they were they
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: were still over there like you would see them over
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: there they're just old they weren't used then in comes
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: the coal mine 20 years ago builds the train tracks
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: going from the coal mine connecting to those tracks. But
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: those tracks, they do. They go right down, right through
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: the side of the Shawnee. I mean, you know, path
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: of least resistance. Why not?
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's how they did it, but
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: It's a good theory.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Do you think that the Bigfoot and stuff could be
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: living in those mines? What do you think?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Not the one, not the new ones.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: There were, well, are some old ones that, so like
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: before my dad and my stepmom got together, she lived
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: on a road that was about four or five miles
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: east of the farm. And on her road, there was
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: this old mine, right? And it was like a, like
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: a walk-in shaft.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know how far down it went or anything
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: But it was just like one of those old, old ones.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: And, and I remember my stepbrother, my older stepbrother, He
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: was telling a story one time that one of his
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: buddies was down in there messing around or something like that,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: and they got chased out by something big.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: They got chased out of the mine because something big
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: was in there.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: They heard it. They were thinking of fare or something
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: like that, but we don't have fare in Southern Illinois.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Maybe once upon a time, a long
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: time ago, but- You don't have fare?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: No, we don't down here.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: No. Occasionally you'll have like a black bear migrate through
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: like from like Missouri going to like Indiana or Kentucky.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: It'll be like bear watch. You'll see all like the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: local news on Facebook and stuff like that. People posting
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: pictures and whatnot, saying where it's at. And most of
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the time it's just migrating through, you know, it doesn't
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: stay anywhere for more than a day. But yeah, you know, again,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't there when that happened. I didn't know any
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: of them back then. So I don't know, but it's,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: it's weird because that's one place they could go. I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if out there on the land or
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: around the land, if there isn't like a cave just
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: because of the landscape through there and whatnot, and you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: got your different bluffs and everything, it wouldn't surprise me. Um,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Um, So, you know, take that
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: for what it is, because like I said, you know, January, February,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: there really wasn't any activity hardly. And, you know, I mean,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: that's the coldest months of the year for us.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: So it makes sense that they would be somewhere else.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Keep warm. I don't know. But like whatever it got
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: to be about March and everything and it wasn't freezing
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: cold again. started hearing them again, started finding like weird
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: breaks and things. There's a couple of buddies of mine
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: that live in Western Massachusetts and they're Bigfoot researchers. And
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: I sent them this picture I took. It wasn't on
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: the farm. It was like right before you get to
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: the farm. But it was weird because I noticed it
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: one day and I was like, well, that's strange.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: But I didn't really think anything of it, you know.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: And then whenever I went back, like the next time
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: I saw it still, I'm like, there's something to that.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I got out and I got as close as I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: could because what it was, it was like these two
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: like tree tops.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: They weren't big trees or anything. I mean, they were tall,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: but they weren't like wide.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And the tops of them
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: were both broke down at like a 90 degree angle.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: But whenever you looked at it, they were also kind
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: of like where this this one right here was kind
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: of like tucked under the other one.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: And like so it was like manipulated. And I mean,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: this had to be, I.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Don't know, 10, 12 feet up in the air, you know,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: like from ground level.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: So it was strange.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, could it have been from the weather possibly,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: but none of the other trees right there were, I mean,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: it was like in a group of trees that, you know,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: this was, this was like that. No, the other ones
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: were bothered. So it's like, I don't know.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what to make of that.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: But whenever I sent it to them, they were looking
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: and they zoomed in on it real big and everything.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: And they said they could see where it looked like
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: it had been wrapped, like wrapped under and almost like
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: holding the other one in place to where they were
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: both kind of like just sitting at like that 90
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: degree angle. I don't know.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: You know, some of the guys that I go out
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: big footing with have always told me they're like, you know,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: cause I mean, and I think I'm sure that sometimes
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: they hop in on my shows. David, there's David Pardue
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: right there. What's up, David? David and I are on
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: some teams together. And he goes, he's out there. So
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: I think Beth was asking, do we go out and
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: look for Bigfoot in the winter? My teams go out
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: all throughout the year. It doesn't matter if it's rain, sleet,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: or snow. Hot, dry, cold, it doesn't matter. We're out there.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: Looking for Bigfoot, but we don't, we don't get a
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: lot of activity when it's really cold or raining and
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. It's actually, we get more activity when
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: the weather's nice.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: And so just like what you're saying. Yeah. So it's,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the same. David says that he's out
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: there from early fall. all the way through early summer
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: and potty times, potty times in the AC. I don't
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: even know what you're talking about, David, but okay. But,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's, it's usually best like when the weather's nice,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: like they're out there when we're out there, we want
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: to be out there when the weather's better. That's what
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: it is. So I can, you know, I can appreciate that.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Right. And like, I think one reason we had so
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: much success last year doing all that, which I hate
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: it because it, screwed me on my soybean yield that
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: we got but the farming people that we rent the
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: land out to to farm where that pipeline was going
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: through they couldn't farm none of that yet so we
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: had most of that summer before you know they started
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: running tractors plows all that stuff so I mean everything
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: was just like you could walk out in the fields
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: and find stuff and I also wonder though if because
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: the land was being destroyed right there, you know, bulldoze
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: down trees, all that kind of stuff, the ground being all,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, messed up and all that for them to
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: lay that pipeline. If that didn't piss.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: Off the, uh, Bigfoot, you know, absolutely being more active.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: And like checking things out because like after the, that
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: first video we made for Joe's YouTube channel, dad started noticing, um,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: drones out on the farm and, um, At first, he's
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: thinking maybe it's just the pipeline because he knew the
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: pipeline had drones. But then he started having some other drones.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: He was thinking, you know, somebody out there trying to
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: scope out. Maybe they got a thermal trying to find.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: Bigfoot or something.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: And it got to the point where he was about
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: to start shooting them out of the sky because one
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: was following him while he was walking around out on
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: the farm.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: You know how tempted I've been to do that? I've
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: been so tempted. We used to have those drones that
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: would come down and fly over our farm. We had
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: a farm, too. And it was so intrusive, Bryce. So intrusive.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: And they would fly right down in front of the
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: house and sit right in front of us like, na-na-na-boo-boo.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no manners at all. You know. Dad's all like,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: I get in trouble or not.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, I'm not sure how that works.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, but the way I see it is it's
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: above your property.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: You don't want it there.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not real sure. He was like, he goes, I'd
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: shoot it. And then I went for the person to
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: come looking for it. And I'm like, yeah, call me
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: when you do that. But, uh, I'm not going to say,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but, um, yeah, you know, it's just,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: it's weird. And then it's like, so like all these
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: podcasts I've been doing, because I've only been on doing
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: these podcasts since back in November, uh, You know, it
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I've been on like my friend
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: Truth and Bass. I've been on their show. But and
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I talked about like, really, it's to I really owe
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: everything to them because they're the ones that got me
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: to really come forward about it all. Because like we
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: were all buddies. So I was just talking to them
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: about it. And I go on their show. And I mean,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: their show, it's not a huge show or anything. But,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I've made some pretty tight friends through that show.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: And they were the ones that really pushed me to, you.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Know, get it out there. So I was like, all right. But, um,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just, yeah. And so it's like, it
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: went from like doing all these podcasts, doing these YouTube shows.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Now I'm doing public speaking events. I never once expected
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: to do that. Wanted to do that. Um, I just,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: I got asked about a big money monster festival back in, uh, June.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: And cause I can remember I called you.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, so I'm going to be doing
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: this speaking thing. Got any pointers? Um, you know, and
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: then it's, it's kind of just went off from there
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: and turned into its own beast.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, I just didn't know.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's weird.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I, you know, you're, you're like me.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Like we never, neither of us ever expected to like
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: speak publicly about the stuff we experienced.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and here, here I am, the cryptic hunter
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: is on YouTube now. Okay. So get ready, Bryce.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like, uh, the, the, the concrete, the big
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: muddy monster festival, uh, That was my first one.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: And they had me headlining.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, Chad Lewis is here. He's famous.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: He's been on TV.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: He's wrote like 40 books.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just a local yokel. You know, it's like, Oh God.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah. Following him. I'm like, Oh crap.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you did amazing. And you know,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: and the pictures are really good. I could tell you
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: were doing a great job up there. We'll show the
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: audience figures in a minute. But, uh, you know, that's,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: that's so it's, it's important to get out there in
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: the communities. Like I was, I was telling the audience
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: this past week, like I love doing the small town events.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: Like that's, that is what I love the most is
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: getting out into the communities around where I live in
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Georgia and Alabama, that area. Like I love doing these
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: small town events. Cause a lot of people show up
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: for this stuff and that's where you can meet. That's
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: where you meet. all the people that are having these
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: experiences and stuff and like, it's more comfortable for them
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: to come up and talk to you about it. And yeah.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That place was packed.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: It was. Oh yeah.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: At the, at the big money monster festival, but it
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: was also free.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So like everybody went in
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: and it was the Liberty theater in Murfreesboro. That was
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: where like all the speakers were speaking at and where
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: they showed the documentary. Cause they actually showed it on
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: like the big movie theater, the big movie screen and everything.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: And that was really cool.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: Um, and it also made the whole, uh, seeing the, uh,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: UFO at the end, uh, even more creepier because I'm
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: seeing it on the big screen. I'm thinking to when
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: it happened and I'm just like getting goosebumps as I'm
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: seeing it, you know, I'm like, that was creepy. But, um, yeah.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: So like then just this past Saturday, uh, I spoke
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: at the Southern Illinois Bigfoot conference and, um, and that
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: was a trip because, you know, Martin Groves was there. Uh,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Ken Gerhard was there. Todd Neese, um, the Squatchers, um, Betsy,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: I will butcher her last name. Cause it was, it
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: began with a K cool. Kowalski's or something. Kowalski. I
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: I'm I apologize, Betsy.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: If you ever see this, um, I won't tell you. Yeah,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: and just like some other people were there too, you know.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot was there. Luckily, I was going third. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: that's my wife and Ken. That's so sweet. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: that was cool. There's me with Ken.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: I met Ken. He was at one of the Alabama
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot conferences. I met him a while back. And that's
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: my buddy, Martin Groves, right there. That's my buddy.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: Yep, me and Martin. Yep. Such a sweet guy.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: Really sweet, nice guy.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: And actually, whenever he was doing his presentation, he had
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: me out there on stage with him working the slide clicker.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: Got to share the stage with Martin Groves.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: That's good. Look at you. You are official. Look at you.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: You are official. Yeah.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was laundry day that day, so I grabbed
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: my camo shorts there, and I'm like, well, this is
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: going to work, I guess. That's the squatchers. That's Jim
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: and Joe. They're super, super nice guys.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. That is so cool. That's wonderful. I know.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Oops.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: Let me go back.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: That's video.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: Part of the video.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Video. Talking and everything. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: I love that. That's great. Well, now you're official. Now
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: you're official Bigfoot speaker.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. I've got another one coming up October 3rd
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: at the Shawnee Sasquatch Fest in Harrisburg, Illinois.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'll be speaking there. I don't know who else is.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Um, I know I am at least usually they have
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: like two or three. So, I mean, it's not, the
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: festival itself is big, but I'm not so sure about like,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: as far as like the speaking speakers part, you know,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: cause like they'll have like bands going and they have
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: like some like free carnival rides. And then inside the
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: municipal building is where they have the speakers at. So it's,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, you might have 20, 30 people in there.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: You might have nobody.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll find out.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: But that's the next one. And I mean, it's it's
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: been going good, though.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like the more I do it, the more
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: confident I feel in doing it. Whenever I spoke Saturday, though,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: and I was looking up at the balcony and I
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: saw Ken and Martin standing there, I'm like, oh, crap.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: You know, because I mean, they both told me afterwards,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: they were like the sincere, the sincerity in your voice
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: and just looking at you when you're talking, your body language,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: all that. They're like, I believe you saw what you saw.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: And I mean, and hearing that from them, that's like
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: the biggest compliment ever, you know. And and then, like
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: I said, also, like the people that came up to
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: me that were like, you know, just patrons. That came
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: up to me afterwards to my merch table talking to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: me and stuff and telling me about stuff they've encountered
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: or just thanking me for, you know, being a local
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: guy that wasn't afraid to come out, you know. Oh,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: thank you, Beth. Yep.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: I've only got two left. I got to put another
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: order in for shirts.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to sell hardly anything Cause honestly the
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: ticket sales for that, they weren't that great, but the turnout,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: it was, I mean, the building, the venue would hold
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: 300 people. And I think that only like.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: 60 something tickets got sold.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were a little pricey in my opinion,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: but I mean, some of the names we had there,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: I get it, you know, but, um, It's about quality.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: It's quality, not quantity. Okay.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it was like, you know, the way I
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: looked at it was, I don't think these people paid
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: money to not believe everybody they're talking about stuff or
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: heckle anybody.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: So we didn't have to, you know, really mess with it.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: You know, people who are going to heckle and like
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: be the naysayers are probably not going to show up
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: to events like that. And that's what I found out. Like,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: I'm never even worried about that. It doesn't matter to me.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: I've gotten to where, You know, you get a thick
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: skin when you start speaking publicly about Bigfoot and Dogman experiences.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: And you get to where you just don't, you have
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: to kind of separate yourself from like worrying about like
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: what people think and stuff. And you got to kind
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: of just trust like when you go out and you
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: speak publicly like that, the people who are going to,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: you're going to be surrounded by more people who support
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: you than don't. You know what I mean? And so
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: have some comfort knowing that. Just have confidence.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like in Murfreesboro, I only came across one guy
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: that was like a skeptic, you know. He was like,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: so you've seen Bigfoot? And I was like, yep, right
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: here in Southern Illinois. He's like, really?
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: And he was just like, huh.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: And then just like walked on. You know what I mean?
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just like him and his wife. And his wife
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: looked like she was half drunk. He may have been
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: half drunk too.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, at least.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: You're curious about it though. You know what I mean?
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: Like I actually really, I love talking to people. If
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: people are skeptics, that's fine. Yeah, I welcome it.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Don't make fun of me,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: but I welcome it.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: Don't make fun of me or else you get enough
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: of someone.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm kidding.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that people can appreciate you telling about
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: your entire family's experiences out there and having a documentary
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: to back that up. That's really special.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: With evidence on it. It's not just me talking about it.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: It's my dad. It's the stories my grandma told me,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: told my wife. It's stuff I didn't even know about
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: that I found out through that and everything. Whenever dad
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: was talking or like these other videos we've done with
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: Joe where my uncle was talking about stuff he's experienced
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: out there. The Bluff that used to be where everybody
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: went and party, you know what I mean? Or camped
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: out because yeah, well, uh, back in 2008, I think
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: it was on May 8th, we had what we call
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: here in this area, we call it the May 8th storm.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: It was, uh, one of those like inland hurricanes, uh,
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: like a derecho, I think is what it's called. And, um,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: it just, it wiped out like Most of Southern Illinois
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: was without power. And where I was living at the time,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: I was living up closer to where I work at.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: So it was just south of me where this storm hit.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: And I remember the day that storm hit because just
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: how wild the sky looked. And like it was so bad.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: My mom, she had to drive from where she lived
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: at like four counties away from where I was just
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: to come up and get water. You know, because they
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: didn't have water.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: They didn't have power.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: None of that. and um so it was weird but
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: like anyways where i'm going with that is that bluff
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: area all these trees and everything fell over like even
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: whenever we went to it to go film that video
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: back in may or june i i couldn't recognize the
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: bluff everything has changed from how it was whenever i
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: was a kid because like i remember where everybody used
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: to party i partied there too um you know or
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: camped at and everything down there because there was like
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: this small like before you got to like the Creek,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: you had this like plateau area and that's where everybody
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: always was at. We'd have fires and all kinds of stuff.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: And then grandma would figure out what we were doing
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: and run everybody off.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: But that's another story. But, uh, you know, like I
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: was trying to find that.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: Area and it was just all these trees and everything
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: had blown over and they just been down there, you know,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: for the last, 18 years. So it's just, it's not
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: the best place to be. And it's really creepy. But, um,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: my uncle, he was down there in the seventies or eighties.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: He was, I guess it was the eighties. He was
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: camping down there and he talked about something big walking
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: through his camp. And he said that, you know, like
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: he just had like the campfire going, his tent, uh,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: He was like, you know, he had roasted some hot
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: dogs or whatever earlier in the evening. And like he
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: just he said he heard something like run up and
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: then walk around his camp and like push down on
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: his tent. And then it was just gone. And I
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: was like, well, did you see what it was? He
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: was like, no, I wasn't coming out of that tent.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: He was like, absolutely not. And, you know, so I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was a person. You know, the
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: way he described it, he's like, it didn't seem like
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: a person to me. I even asked him, like, would
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: you think it was like one of your buddies or
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: dad or somebody messing with your grandpa? Even it was like, no, no.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: He goes, that hand pushing down on the tent was
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: way bigger.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: It was like it was way bigger than a person. So,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for decades, at least 60 years,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: we've had weird stuff going on out there. And it's
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: not just Bigfoot. It's, you know, all this other stuff, too.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got orbs that we'll see. Do I think,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: you know, do I think that there's something to do
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: with the Fae out there?
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  Speaker 3: Not really.
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  Speaker 1: But I've also heard people make the argument that all
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: of this is the Fae or has to do with
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: the Fae lore and whatnot. I've heard that too.
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  Speaker 3: Take it with a grain of salt.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that I believe that,
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: but I can't say no because I don't know. You
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? But I haven't noticed any fairy
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: rings or nothing.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I've heard that too, Bryce, but I
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: don't know about that one. I don't know about that one.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: But who knows? Nobody has all the answers to any
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. I do have a question for you, though. Okay.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: So like your whole family pretty much is involved in this.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: And I come from a family, like a long line
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: of people who, especially women, my family, who have a
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: lot of weird experiences like your family has and ghosts,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: possible alien abductions and UFO stuff going on and and
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: seeing strange things like we all do, like our family.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: But do you think maybe there could be something connected
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: to your bloodline potentially? And maybe that's why, like, I
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: know your family's been on that property for a long time,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. What do you think about that?
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: You think it could be like a bloodline thing?
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: It's possible.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: Amber brought that up to me one time, actually.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: She thinks that there's something with my family and that land.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: And now what? I don't know. Like you said, it
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: could just be because we've been out there forever. She
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: said she got this feeling because like, I don't know
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: how really to describe it, but like Amber's got these
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: things that she can sense, you know what I mean?
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: And these things that she can see.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: She's not crazy or something like that. But she gets
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: the feeling like, you know, these creatures out there, like
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot mainly is what we're talking about on this,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: almost look at us as stewards of the land or
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: maybe even, you know, like the forest spirits, you know
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: Because those are real, you know, I believe that wholeheartedly.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: Like I've talked to Brother Nighthawk, if he's still in
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: the chat, I've talked, we've talked about that before, you know,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: and she feels like we're almost looked at as like
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: the stewards of the land because we've been around for
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: so long on that land. you know and um so
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: there could be something there with the blood now you
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: want to take and throw in all the ufo stuff
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: and like possible abductions i don't know i don't know
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: if i've been abducted i don't think i have but
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: i did have a weird dream one time but that's
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: a whole another show um but i'm not gonna say
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: i have because i don't think i have but like
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: it's weird that like my grandma uh So my grandma,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: before she met or before she got with grandpa and
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: moved out to the farm, she lived in the town
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: I live in now. And so her and her sister,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: she had three sisters and two brothers. And they used
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: to live on Third Street here in town. And they
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: had this neighbor that told grandma's sister that she would
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: see this light come from the town south of us.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: This is this light in the sky and it would
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: fly over and it would stop and be above their house.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: You know, grandma, grandma's house back in the day. So
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: my my great grandparents house on her side above their
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: house and just hover. And it usually would hover over
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: my great aunt's bedroom the way that she described on
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: the side of the house. Now, it wasn't like it
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: was coming down and it was like, you know, 20
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: feet above the house, but it was low enough to
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: where this neighbor could get a good view of it.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: And that's weird because you know, being like grandma and
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: aunt Sue, they didn't care to tell me and my
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: cousin this story, these stories when we were kids and
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, they were very open about the paranormal and, um,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: you know, cryptids and things like that. They were very
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: open about it. And a lot of times you don't
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: get that from that generation. but they've experienced a lot
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: of stuff so I'm kind of keeping that in the
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: back of my mind my neighbor who lives across the
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: road from me he told me a couple months ago
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: I was talking with him and I was telling him
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: about this deal and everything I was like hey man.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: If you don't mind I know you're up a lot.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: At night just kind of keep an eye on my
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: house for me and there was an issue that we
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: were having and, uh, since it's been taken care of,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: but I was like, you know, just keep an eye
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: out for me if you would. And, um, he's like, yeah,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: no problem. And then he goes, you know, it's really weird.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, I'll see a light come from that town
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: over that way and come over and kind of hover
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: above your house. And I'm like, what? You know?
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: Like a drone. He's like, nah, man. He's like, it's
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: like one of those like UFOs or UAPs.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, Whoa.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: What? You know, because I'm thinking about Aunt Sue's story.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay. And this is the first time
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: I've talked about this just because we got on the subject.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: But it's strange. And I've had some weird dreams. But
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: like I said, I just keep associating them as dreams.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: They feel very real, but I've had dreams that feel
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: very real. You know? So... I'm not saying yes. I'm
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: not saying no. I'm just going to say, I don't
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: think so. You know, as far as abduction type things,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: but definitely strange, you know, because this is other people
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: not related to us, just neighbors, you know, I mean,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: we're friends with them, but it's not like we hang
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: out or anything. I mean, we're just, we're friendly. Um,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: and then, you know, he's telling me this and it's
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: basically the same thing that happened decades ago with aunt Sue.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Um, I never caught that nasty
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: virus that was going around a few years back, you know,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: and I never took the jab or anything. So, I mean,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, and I don't know why I always throw
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: that out there.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: It just kind of feels like.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: Like, like you were protected.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Cause it's like literally everybody
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: caught that.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: It seemed like.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not everybody. I didn't give into it either. I'm
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: with you. Good deal. Yeah.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: My kids got it. I was surrounded by it, but
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: I never, ever tested positive. None of that.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I never tested or at all. None of that.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: I know I lost some friends over all that too.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. We won't get into all that, but
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say like I lost friends, but
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: I kind of did like, there was a split at
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: that point and everybody went in different directions. And that
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: was like, that was wild. It was wild. So I
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: see what you're, I know what you're saying.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, whatever. Yeah.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: But wow. Well, that's interesting, you know, and we do
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: have some interesting other questions in the chat, too, because Blazer. Oh, yeah.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 3: Fire away.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: I can't see him.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: So, well, have you ever had a near death experience before?
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you call it near death experience.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like if what happened hadn't happened, I probably
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: would have died. So my sophomore year was homecoming. We
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: went out to the farm and I was living out
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: there at the time. This is back when me and
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: dad and my stepmom and my stepbrother lived in the
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: pole barn house.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 3: But we were out there, we were having a bonfire.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: And like my buddy and his girlfriend and my girlfriend
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: at the time, we were out there, you know, just
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: hanging out, you know, we weren't drinking or anything like that.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: And it got time to go ahead and take the
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: girls home and all that. So We went back to
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: town and on the way, for whatever reason, my dumb
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: ass girlfriend decides to just grab the steering wheel and
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: turn it, you know. And so, of course, the car
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: starts spinning. And this is weird because it spins. So
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: like the road's going this way. The car is like this,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: you know, and I see this big tree. And the
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: only thing I can think is, oh, God, I'm going
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: to be the high school kid that dies.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And now this is going
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 3: to sound crazy. I've talked about it a couple of times.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: But.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: OK, so just follow me on this, OK, because I
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: know it sounds wild.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: I saw these hands like these big, bright hands, like
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: one push, like the front fender and one was like pushing, like,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: I guess the door. And literally shoved the car to
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: where like, so you got this tree right here. The
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: car goes like tree straight over and into a driveway.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: Guardian angel, an angel, you know, interfering, you know, pushing
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: me out of the way because it wasn't my time.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But whatever it was, thank you. And
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: I don't talk about that one often because number one,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't come up. But number two, it's just so
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: weird because what were those hands? You know what I mean?
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: And it was like, as soon as I saw him,
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: like the corner of my eye touched the car. That's
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: when the car just immediately, it's going this way. And
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: immediately it just sideways moves over and then keeps going straight.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's just like, okay.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: Needless to say, I got rid of the girlfriend after that.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was just one of those deals where
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't dead and hovering above my body,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: but I definitely saw something otherworldly. And I feel like
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: had that interference not have happened, I would be dead.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: You know, and I was going like 60, you know,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: whenever that happened.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I don't know what possessed her to
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: That is a near death experience. Maybe she got taken
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: over by something.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: There's some, there's some evil stuff, entities and stuff. I
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: It was just so weird.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: That's wild. I'm glad. Well, I'm glad you survived that.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I actually had a, this is in the
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: past couple of years, I had an incident where I
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: got tripped up something like I was, I fell down,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: I was falling down my steps and, and this is
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: a fall. These are really tall steps. And I, it
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: was like a freak, freak accident kind of thing. It
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: was almost like really, really freak, freak accident. Like I
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: stepped in something and like, and I just started tumbling,
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: but I never, I was like lifted into the air.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: Like I felt arms on my, on my, underneath me
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: lifting me up as I felt like I, my feet
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: never hit the ground. I made it down to the
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: bottom of the steps and it was like, it defined explanation.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: It didn't make any sense, but I had felt arms
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: lifting me up and carrying me down the steps as
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: I fell. It was crazy. I probably should have been
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: in the hospital and not survived that. It was bad.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: That was probably a guardian angel or something.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I felt arms. It was wild. My friend Barry
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: and I were talking about it the other day. He's like, yeah,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: you got these people trying to curse you all the time.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: I know. I got people on the other side that
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: are not going to let that happen. That happened to
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: me too. That was just recent. That was in the
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: past couple of years that happened. And, uh, and I'm not,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not a clumsy person by nature. I really am not. And, uh, that,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: that part even felt like a freak out, like something
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: kind of freaky to me because like, I don't trip
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: up like that. You know what I mean? And, uh,
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: it was just, it was weird. It was weird. Just
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: like you said, it was weird. But, uh, anyways, I'm
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: just glad we're here and, you know, and, and, and
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: we've survived these things, you and I both, you know,
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: and that's why it is, there is something, there is
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: a higher power out there that is for sure.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I have some other questions, too. There's a lot
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: of questions in the chat, I know, but I've got
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: a couple here to pull up. Milton, Milton Duke Duke.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: What's up, Duke Duke? Says, does your guest have cemeteries,
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: mounds near the property? Do you have cemeteries and mounds
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: that you know of?
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: The closest cemetery to the property is probably 400. for
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: five mile, I don't know, not five, probably about four miles.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: What would that be? North of the farm. There's another one.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: It's a small one. I think it might be a
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: family plot that's kind of in like a catty corner direction,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: about maybe three miles. But I don't know like the
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: family that it would be or anything. It's just pretty
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: old looking. Um, but like where my grandma and grandpa
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: are buried at, um, that that's the one that's like
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: four miles over.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, those are the closest ones I know of.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, there's one East, but it's like six miles East.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: So not really so much on the property. Um, I
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: do remember being a kid. I don't know where we
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: were though. It was my older cousins. Uh, I was
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: riding on the back of a three wheeler with them
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: and we were just riding on three wheeler.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: God, three wheelers are like the worst. They were so dangerous.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: That's all we had we didn't even have four wheelers.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: We just had three wheelers yeah yeah i mean they
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: were the best they were fun but like those are
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: so dangerous i mean it was a if you break
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: too hard like you were flipping end over end there's
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: no doubt you're done.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah i've done that.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: And I almost died on a four-wheeler.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, too. I know you're about to tell
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: us a story about your wreck. I had a wreck
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: with my cousin and my sister, and we all three
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: almost died on a four-wheeler. We flipped end over end
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: down the road. It was wild.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried climbing a hill and lost.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people don't, especially kids, they don't
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: survive wrecks like that.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: They don't. My step-sister's son didn't survive one of those. Yeah.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was more in my.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: I just started at the factory, so it would have
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: been like my early 20s, like 22, 23. I still
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: had one then. I took it to go ride around
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: with some people, and they were going up it no problem,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: but they had four-wheelers.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, I could probably make it. I just
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: got a little bit longer to go at it.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: I got up there about halfway, and I was like, nope,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: I'm missing it, and I bailed off the side of
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: it and just watched.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: My three-wheeler do end over end back down the hill.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, ew. But... Yeah, as far as mounds go,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: I think some of those hills out there are.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: The best person that would have been to ask about
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: that is my dad's friend that passed away. Because I
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: have a feeling that's where some of those arrowheads he
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: found came from.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, you told us about that story last time. I
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: forgot about that. Can you tell us that story again, please?
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can finish what you're saying.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, no. That's fine.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: We can go into it. This isn't my story.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: This is what my dad's best friend told him that happened,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: but somewhere out there on the farm or the property
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: surrounding the farm. My dad's best friend was out there
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: with a buddy of his and they were, he knew
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: this place to go to get some artifacts, you know,
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: some arrowheads, whatever.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 3: And they were digging into it. And he said he
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: was digging into a.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: Hill or mound. And.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 3: Mound.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: He came across, like, you know, found some arrowheads. Then
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: he found this, like, ring. But whenever he got a
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: little more down, like, it was part of the finger
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: was still there, too.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: And he went ahead and took the ring off of it.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: No sooner than he did that... This is... Again, this
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: is not my story. This is what this guy told
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: my dad.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: He said that this, like, Clear's Day looks just as
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: real as me or you. Indian Brave started rising up
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: from where they were digging at. Like, full headdress, everything.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: I know that sounds really weird, but think spirit-wise. If
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: this was, like, a warrior, they're going to be ready
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: to go, you know? And he said it came up, and, like,
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: the look it was giving him, like, was, like, very
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: pissed off. You know what I mean? And, like, basically...
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: The head got up and they started throwing everything they
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: took back in that hole and filling the hole back in.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: And it never did come above the ground after they
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: filled the hole back in. But it scared him to death.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: He also, after that, took his entire collection of arrowheads
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: and buried them somewhere. I'm guessing maybe in that mound
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: area or maybe in the creek. I don't know. Dad
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: didn't know either. But he buried all that. And then
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 1: not long after that, He passed away in his sleep.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: And this guy was only in his fifties. And I mean,
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: he walked around all the time. So, I mean, he
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: was in pretty good shape. I mean, yeah, he smoked
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of cigarettes, but I don't know. But, you know,
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if there was a, if one
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: led to the other or not, but it was very
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: coincidental as far as timing. So.
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine like, first of all, there's a lot
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: of like Indian burial mounds is what we call them
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: down here in the South.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of mounds and they're not labeled
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: and people don't, either they don't realize what they are
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: or they just, you know, they don't know or they've
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: been actively covered up somehow or something. I don't know.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been watching those. It was like, there's
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 2: some TikTok accounts that are like LIDAR channels and stuff.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: Have you seen those? Those are getting real popular right now.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're trying to get something like that brought out
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: to the farms.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: That would be a great idea for you guys to
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: have that. It might answer some questions as to why
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: these cryptids are out there on your farm. They may
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: be protecting some burial mounds and stuff.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, somebody, I forget who, I think it was.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: I don't remember who, it was another podcaster I was
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: on in the first couple. He wondered if because of
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: the Native American connection and everything to the land, if, like, say, like,
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: the shaman or whatever the spiritual leader would be called
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: of the Native Americans in that, didn't, like, in a way,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: conjure forth Bigfoot there to, like, you know, protect or
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: protect them or protect the land or maybe even fight
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: against the force. I don't know.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: But now they're not there to put it back.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it just roams. He
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: brought that up, and I mean, well, I don't know
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: if I really subscribe to that.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, it's the sound of theory as
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: any that I got, because I don't know.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard too many stories. I've investigated too
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: many pieces of land where there's extreme hauntings. There's cryptids,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: like scary cryptids and stuff, S-walkers and all that. And
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: some of the common themes is like there's been disturbed
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: Indian burial mounds. There's actually that one spot that I
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: went to up in Whitleyville up in Tennessee. I've been
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: North Tennessee, like right on the border of like Kentucky
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: up there. And and I didn't know this until Bruce
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: has been in the chat tonight. Bruce Brown's a good
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: friend of mine. And and he's he's a police officer
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: up there in Whitleyville. I didn't know him. I didn't
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: even know about this until. later on, like recently, he
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: told me about this. He had seen us out there camping. He,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: he remembered the property that we were on. We had
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: some of the guys I go out big footing with
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff. He was like, well, I saw y'all's trucks
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: out there at that cave entrance. And I was wondering
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: what y'all were doing out there. This is like three
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: years ago or something. And, uh, and we couldn't, we,
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: we didn't know the real history behind this property. You
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? But this people, the couple that
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: was living there was having like dog, man, big foot
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: stuff going on. hauntings the cave entrance was right in
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: their backyard they were freaked out about it and they
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: were having all this their chickens were going missing and
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: all this stuff it was crazy and uh and so
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: it wasn't until like recently this year bruce was like
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: hey i just want you to know uh the woman
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: there was a family that lived in that house it
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: was a man a wife the two kids the the
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 2: they had they had taken part in leveling an indian
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: burial mound right there and uh there had been like
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: a There was a burial, there was like a mound
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: and all the houses around there, like they burned down.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: People have like woken up, like levitating in their beds.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: One person got thrown out of an upstairs window after
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: levitating out of their bed one night. Like, it's just crazy.
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: And it all has to do with that. Anybody who
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: had anything to do with that Indian burial man getting destroyed,
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: the man, the husband in that house that we were investigating,
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: We didn't know that he had unalived his wife on
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: the porch of that house. We didn't even know that
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: when we went there to investigate that place. But the
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: house was haunted. I left my ghost hunting equipment with Farrah,
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: the girl who lived there. I gave her some of
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: my ITC devices and things like that and my REM
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: pod because I didn't want them anymore. I was like,
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't want them anyways, honestly. But I gave them
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: to her and she was having pretty extreme haunted paranormal
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: activity in her house. It turns out that woman had
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: died there recently, within the past five years. Wow, that's wild.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: It's wild, right? But it had to do with that curse. Basically,
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: it was like a curse of the people who had
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: taken down that Indian burial mound right there.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, I guarantee it. Yeah.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: I guarantee it. Man, but imagine, like, with you, but,
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: you know, like, having a farm. Let's just look at
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: it this way, because I grew up on a farm, too.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: How do we not know that, like, my grandfather... and
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: my dad, my aunts and everybody, my cousins, they could
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: have just gone out there to level some land not
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: knowing that a hill was an actual mound.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've wondered that too. Yeah, I've definitely wondered that myself.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 2: I say innocent, but I meant ignorant. It could have
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: been like ignorance because they didn't know.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I totally
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: get that.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 3: It's possible too out on the farm.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: It's very possible.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no telling.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: But see, but y'all aren't being like harmed or threatened
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: by these things out there, are you? You're just, they're
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: just there living amongst you.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're there. I mean, they're making themselves known that Dogman,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: I don't, I almost think like, and this may sound stupid,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: but I almost think like, yeah, the Dogman's around, but.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: I think that the Bigfoot kind of keep it in check.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, they don't let it
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: get too close if we're out and about out there.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it walked by
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: the house when dad was in the house but he
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: hasn't encountered it or anything like that whenever he's outside
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: um my brother that was a different story my stepbrother
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like you know hey it still it didn't
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: charge him you know it stayed in the tree line
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: and he was like 30 yards away from it And
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't advance either.
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, good on him.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm not really sure. Man. Any
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: more questions?
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to hop off here pretty soon.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: No, you know what? We really don't. I don't think
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: we have any more questions. I didn't save any in
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: here if we did. But let's see. Cemetery, NDE. Those
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: are the two that I saw right there. Well, no,
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, this has been absolutely fantastic again, Bryce. I
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: really do appreciate you coming on the show tonight.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: No problem. I love being on.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you bringing me back.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: Well, of course. Well, thank you so much for being here.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: And is there anything you'd like to tell the audience tonight?
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 2: Like anything you'd like to promote or like any kind
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: of words of advice? What are you going to leave
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: us with tonight?
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: So like I said, I'll be speaking in Harrisburg, Illinois,
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: October 3rd at the Shawnee Sasquatch Fest. Um, please check
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: out the documentary, the links in the comments, um, or
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: the show notes, whatever it is.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 3: Um, hopefully you guys like it.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: Um, y'all want to send me a friend request on Facebook,
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: feel free to just Bryce Edwards pictures, uh, me and
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: my wife and the cover photos, me speaking at the
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot conference last Saturday. And, um, One thing I like
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: to always tell people is a couple things.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 3: Number one, closed minds see nothing.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: You've got to have an open mind when we're talking
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: about cryptids and all that stuff. You can't automatically go
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: in thinking, oh, it's all fake because you're not going
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: to experience anything. You've got to have an open mind.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: And then two, especially for people in my area, these
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: things are real.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 3: They are here. Now, Just because I've had.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: Positive interactions doesn't mean it's always going to go that
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: way for me. Doesn't mean if you come across something
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: out there in the woods or whatever, but it's going
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: to go that way for you.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's going to go bad either. It
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 3: just depends.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: So just be aware, you know, take precaution if you
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: need to and just keep your eyes open.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: Always eyes on the back of your heads, y'all.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: And, uh, no, and I agree with that. I think it's, uh,
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: that's great advice. And, uh, I just absolutely am so
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: blessed of having you here tonight. And, uh, for you
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: to share your family's history, uh, down in Southern Illinois
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: with the Pond Creek Monster. And do you guys please
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 2: go and, uh, and check out the, the links are
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: in the description box for everybody. If you're listening on
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 2: podcast platform, uh, go to, it's called the Pond Creek
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: Monster New 2026 Bigfoot Documentary. over on YouTube and we
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: have links down in the description box. And if you're
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: listening on podcasts, I do have it down in the
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: description as well. Uh, links there. So, uh, so yeah, man, Bryce,
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: please come back and hang out with me again. I mean,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: I hope to see you at a conference. Maybe you
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: and I can speak together at a conference. Maybe I'll
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: run into each other. Okay.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool. I almost got put on
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: the one going on and loud in Tennessee, um, later
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: in October, but, um, I already had a, prior thing
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: scheduled that weekend. So I wasn't going to be able
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 1: to make it. So I was that close to being
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, dang. Well, I'm, I'm close to there, but, uh, maybe,
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll come up and see you sometime and stuff.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: We'll definitely cross paths one day, Bryce, for sure.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: Wonderful.
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Bryce. Uh, and so people
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: can find you on your Facebook page, you said, and
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: just look at Bryce Edwards, y'all.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 3: Okay. Just look up.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: Bryce Edwards and I'm the one that doesn't look like
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: they have a prison record because there's, there's several on there.
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 3: I noticed most of them don't look like, you know,
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 3: good people. So I'm like, you know.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: Bryce, I actually tagged the wrong Bryce Edwards on Instagram
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 2: today and I had to erase all my posts. Cause
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: I had like, no, it was, it was a young
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: kid or something. I was like, that's not Bryce. I
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: had to put my glasses on. I couldn't see. Okay.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: So anyways, that was funny. Well, before we go tonight, y'all,
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: Jim Weaverling, thank you so much for that super sticker.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate you very much. And all right, everybody. Well,
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: please come back and see me on Monday. I'll be
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: back here at 1 p.m. Eastern, 12 Central with another
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: live show for you guys. What's up, Donnie Cho? Good
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: to see you in here. And I want to thank
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: all of my moderators for being here tonight. All the
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: wonderful people that were in the chat. We have the
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: best chat on the Internet, Bryce. And, uh, and I
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: stand by that a hundred percent. I hope everybody enjoyed
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: the show. I want to give a big shout out
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: to everybody at the Savoy automotive car show today at
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: the museum and just shout out to my dad for
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: getting in the top 20 for his Mustang today. That
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: was great. And, uh, yeah, everybody, please be safe out there.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel. Don't live in fear.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: And Bryce stay safe over there.
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you. We'll see you guys on Monday.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: All right. Bye y'all. Bye, guys.