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#1 - So you want to drift? The Do's and Don'ts of getting started. · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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Okay, Carl. Do you think?
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Okay, what is going on everybody?
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Thank you for tuning in to the faction after-hours podcast.
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My name is Karl my name is Frankie mess you up there just
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may interrupt me right the whole time.
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All right, well that's Frankie. And then we have my boy, Chris
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over here on the 1s and 2's Chris, say something.
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Oh he's just waving to the camera.
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He's waving but every folks are going to see it.
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If you tune into the YouTube video, this podcast is going to
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be posted on our YouTube channel as well, so make sure to tune in
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there so you can see all The shenanigans live right here.
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Frankie said he's gonna eat all that.
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You see the box of Oreo. Cake says, you can't see it over
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there but Frankie's on an Oreo cake stir thing recently and
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sponsored by Oreo cake stirs. It's just I don't get the
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obsession. I don't like they're creamy and
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good. Its exhibits.
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A glorified yodel I said it, I don't even want to get into this
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argument right now because are you sure?
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I will slap the shit out of you right now.
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Why don't you explain what Chris does here at the shop?
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So we're going to explain roles I guess and And the business
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structure here at faction Motorsports, which is where this
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podcast is being filmed, we have Chris who's that main Tech here,
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he does basically everything in Frankie does nothing.
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That's pretty much accurate, is that accurate?
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Yeah, true. It's true.
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Yeah. This poor boy, but and then you
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clearly have Frankie who runs the whole shebang.
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He's the ringleader. So, anytime we get in trouble,
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we say, Frankie bovie. No, wait!
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What just kidding! Don't like what do you do Karl?
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I don't do anything. I just come here.
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I hang out. I buy a shirt every so often and
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I ask how much something is and then don't buy it and then and
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then I do it again. Repeat the process.
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That's pretty much it. So what do we do at faction
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Motorsports? What, what do we did?
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I ask a question. So, what do we do?
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It faction Motorsports. Frankie, what are you guys
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offering nowadays? What's hot?
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What are people getting done? Mostly.
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Oh, um, what's hot alignments? Are hot.
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That's good, we got an alignment rack. 100 machine.
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Pretty much lokar. Friendly.
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The only thing is our driveways a little rough, but, other than
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that, the rack is really easy to get onto.
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So yeah, bring your lowered cars over to faction Motorsports.
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Get that a lot. Simon trite.
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Chris is actually very, very, very, very good aligner here, so
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we can put. So we can just put our own
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faction Motorsports ads in here. We don't need ads.
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That's okay. That's what I thought we were
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doing. Be your own self plug, dude,
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you're the biggest plug, you could be to yourself.
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So what have been are you going to next week or this week?
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I'm going to Evergreen Raceway for I forget who's hosting the
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drift event, but I've never been to Evergreen Raceway before,
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it's really cheap to go drifting.
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And and that's that brings me to our topic today which is
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Clearly, there's a ton of kids nowadays trying to get into
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drifting and it's it. So it the line between do I
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really need this? And I actually really do need
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this. To start drifting is getting
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pretty blurry. So, episode one today on
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Faction. After hours, podcast is all
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about intro to Drifting. What do you need to get in it?
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How Frankie did it? How things were different back
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then and kind of just go from there.
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Honestly, we may we may or may not get to all those topics but
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it's a start but Frankie carry Us in here.
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Like, what do you think is the most important thing to get into
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drifting nowadays? Aside from it, being obviously,
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a rear-wheel-drive vehicle, and we're not going to argue about
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four wheel drive, skids or front-wheel-drive skids.
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Strictly rear-wheel-drive drifting, what do you really
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need nowadays? Oh, man, well, He talked about
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how he started. First.
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Yeah, well, how you used to start versus how you what they
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do now? Yes.
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Now I mean, it's always been the same thing.
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It's you either have people that get a car and go drift it with
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no modifications, or you have people like get a car and put it
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in a garage and tear it down and do every single thing they can
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to it. And they don't drive it ever.
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And then that they finally do get to drive it and it's
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overbuilt and they can't even handle it and then they quit.
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Most of them. Some of them actually continue
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to drift but I would say that Coilovers and a welded death is
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nice. Yeah.
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I mean you should you shouldn't even do anything?
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You should get the car and you go find somewhere to do figure
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eights or donuts and safely. Yeah safely.
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I mean I'm going to a parking lot but yeah, yeah and then not
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with the Takeover kids and just go alone, don't invite all your
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friends. Don't bring cameras, don't bring
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your girlfriend. Just go alone.
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You can do it. I believe in you guys.
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And yeah, just do some donuts, figure eights and then you'll
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figure out what you need real quick.
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It's probably gonna be a seat. Really, a seat is on your thigh
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higher priority. Yeah.
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Yeah. I also agree with that because I
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actually talked to a friend of mine the other day and he said,
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like I was really trying to get a bucket seat because I'm tired
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of swinging around in there. And I said, I've had the seat my
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see in there for a while. Yeah, well, it seems like most
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people don't actually realize they need one until Someone says
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something because you don't really realize it's happening.
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But you're getting pushed your you're bracing yourself on the
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car and you don't even realize you're doing it and it's taking
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a lot of your energy away. All right?
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And you're welcome. So yeah, seat is really
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important. Unfortunately, I wish you could
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keep the stock seats but you kind of need to do that pretty
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quick. Big OE guy we M guy, big oh
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yeah, yeah, I don't want to change the seed but it's not
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going to work. It's talks, he's not gonna work.
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Yeah. Well I guess I could tell you
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that, when I started tripping the 350Z I was bracing my knees
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against the door and the trans tunnel.
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Yeah. Trying to keep myself from
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swinging around. Yeah.
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Then I gotta see. And then I wasn't worrying about
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it was like Chico but will you tell Will you tell our listeners
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what? You drive, nowadays?
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Chris, I drive a 2003 Nissan Xterra 3.3 v 6.
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The other car. What is your, what is your, what
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is your fun car? What do you drive for fun?
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It's a 2005. Honda CBR 600.
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Hey dude, The other one. Okay?
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1991 Nissan Silvia cues originally an ASR then I swapped
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in a black Tom Sr into it. Yeah guys got money this guy
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really cool and and you drifted I do drink that's great.
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I like that and I will attest that Chris was one of the first
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people. You had you held onto that he
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waited, he waited until he was able to register that thing and
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it's that for a while. In your driveway or was it in
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your street somewhere? It was, I bought it, and it's
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sad for about eight months. Okay, so what was the first
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thing you did to the car? Yeah.
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Well, what was your number one? Like I need this to drip
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coilovers coilovers. Really?
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So that brings me to my thing. No.
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Do you have a LSD know, all those coilovers did it?
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Well, the div together. See ya.
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But you got coilovers because you just wanted it to be low.
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Yeah, it wasn't about drifting. Yeah, yeah, well, it was your
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all around your car. You didn't have a daily driver
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back that was for looks and had the coilovers on it, and it had
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the if welded and then for a little bit, I had stock
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suspension with a welded welded. I remember that?
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Yeah. And I was still drifting.
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Yes, I always eat stock suspension.
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Yeah. So it's possible.
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I think I think coilovers was, was a, is a good one.
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I think seed is a good one. To the coilovers are overrated,
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do you think? Yeah, I do.
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I prefer first modification. I will tell you.
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I had so just cut those Springs. Baby, this is okay.
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I personally have friends on the finances.
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I personally have an IS 300 and I had that thing since stock and
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you know, it's on coilovers now. But in between that period I was
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on a shock and spring combo. Yeah.
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They like that's what I'm saying.
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They were agent or Springs and Cody yellow shocks.
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All right? It was fun.
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Yeah, Coney, yellow shocks. And it was great.
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So, absolutely great. That's what, that's what I was
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kind of viewing from your Point was I could kind of see how
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coilovers could be over a mean it's always been a differential
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on a seat for me I think differential and see coilovers
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are probably third though. So you need to you need to and
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you got to get you got to kill that body roll like okay it's
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what about bit. I'm going to bring up a new
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player into the chat and its tires.
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I switched my front tires on the blue car and is 302 from
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mismatching winter tires. To I forget Federal RS, R wasn't
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the Double R is the one, right? But so are Sr and it's swung
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around and rotated. Much better just like it because
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you have overall more front grip equals with crappy tires.
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In the back. You're swinging it.
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You have no choice. Frankie doesn't believe in.
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He doesn't believe in that. He I have a well, it's not that
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I don't believe. And I just well, what tires do
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you ride York? I don't have enough.
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Experience with changing front tires and seeing a result that
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says speak on it. Okay, like I just, I I think
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I've always ran front tires that were good.
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I don't think I ever like. I Feel Like You Dare bitch tires
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and yeah, yeah, I always had. I usually had Yokohama test
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drives in the front are pretty much since I got that car so and
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then I just changed it to Reza's before the engine blew.
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So I don't really have any, I can only speak on it because I
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auto crossed before when I was in college, I did that a lot.
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There was a nice place to go as Vader field in Atlantic City.
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Oh, you're one of those but tires, you noticed something
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like that, right off the get-go. Like yeah, steering input.
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Everything is different. Can you test that?
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Oh, yeah, the only time I know is front tires is one is
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raining. And then I'm like, oh well.
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This isn't working well in the 350Z.
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When I started drifting I just had You know shit Continental
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deed of us is still a good. That's a good Tire guitar, it's
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a good tire but because I didn't know what I was doing.
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I was relying on the front to grip up and then send the back
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out basically weight shifting. Yeah.
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You're but with not grippy tires.
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I was just understanding all the time.
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You're on a 350Z. They're prone to in understeer.
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Hmm. How long will I put your dizzy?
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Yeah, the moment I put good tires in the front.
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It was way easier. Yeah, I don't think I ever
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experienced the bad tire. I mean I must have for like a
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little bit but I don't remember it.
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I know I ran I probably ran the stock wheels on there for a
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little bit with AK and everything.
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But you know it also I think going off a tires then since you
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know that's that's Hit or Miss may just make sure you over all
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have good tires anyway if you're driving the car everyday.
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Um yes. And no I wouldn't be spending
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good money. I go tyres.
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Yeah. All right.
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So yeah. Will debunk that?
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Well I'd be going to your local dealership and finding used
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tires. For the rear that you can was
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definitely spend the money on the front.
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There was a local Mavis that I would go to that would get all
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my free tires. I don't think you could do that
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anymore. You can.
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You can find places that. Yeah, that's good.
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That's good. Or you just go, steal midnight,
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which is what we did. Well, Mike dates brother goes to
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use tire shops, and yeah, buys them.
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I would never buy a used tire. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, like 40 bucks, 30 bucks apiece know from what I've
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experienced. I'm not buying you tell her, I'm
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gonna go right to a dealership at 12:00 at night, and going
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right in their dumpster. Yeah.
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Because you know, At a dealership, they selling tires
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to sell Tire. Yeah.
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At a used tire shop. They're getting old tires.
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A lot of times it's a few years old, you don't know if there's a
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bubble a nail or an existing leak, you never know.
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And here's the other thing, as I'm sitting here thinking about
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this, you would think you could just go to the dealership and
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ask them to take their used tires, because they're going to
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have to pay to get rid of. Hey, the problem is, they can't.
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Give you a used tire legally, they cannot because that's why
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you got to go at night with a ski mask on.
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Well that's that's where the my local.
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My local Mavis participated or they complied with me getting
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them as so as long as I said you know these are not for Road use.
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Yeah they made me say that like every time I would go in there
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to get a tire they would be like I don't know.
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You guys drift you probably a mechanic friends.
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Just ask one of them to ask for take some tires from their job.
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Yeah. But it's by the easiest that
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that brings me. So next one that I noticed and
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this isn't until Reese. I'm no professional.
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And now I'm not fantastic. I drifting I throw a skit every
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so often and I haven't driven in three years, so don't worry.
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He's being modest guys, you know, Frankie, I know they
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haven't really tricky, but it's pretty low line me.
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Dude, my car at, we had a little private day.
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Check out the video on the faction, Motorsports YouTube
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channel. There's a video of our little
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private day that we went to at Englishtown and my car drove.
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Terribly. It was awful.
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It was the worst thing I've ever driven.
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It wasn't like and I'm not a great Drifter, but that was
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terrible. And once I got it aligned by
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Chris Dot right here in House at faction car drives completely
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differently. What did you do to the car?
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Chris, you remember? Or know this car was like claps?
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It was it was bad. Yeah.
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Well you can only do so much with stock adjustability.
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Yeah but overall just tuning it up I mean your basic drip
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alignment you Want Max camera in the front.
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Not always Max but is much if it's a stock car.
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Yeah, I usually do 0 toe in the front and in the rear close to
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zero camber. And it is close to 0 tone.
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And then obviously, if you have Caster adjustment, it's probably
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just making sure everything's right.
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And yeah, it's not all uneven. I guess the thing is is a lot of
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these kids. I feel like they'll buy and I'm
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saying kids, like, I'm old but I'm not really that old.
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But a lot of these the younger generation they buy Arms up the
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Wazoo. They make it all.
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That's the car. It's just us two separate types
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of people. There's the types that do it the
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right way, like I think we did. I think all of us did right
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which you know angle kid or anything?
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Yeah. We just go drift and then just
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send it figure out what you need and then and as you go you do
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it. Yeah.
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And then there's the type of people that They bought the car
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to modify it and they don't, they think, you know, I can't go
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drift until my car is done. I didn't I have all my might,
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Adam LZ starter kit. There's, there's, that's what it
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is. There's that's true, it's cuz
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that's what's glamorized and media because they all watch
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YouTube and what you do and they all these people are trying to
14:48
sell these products. So that's the outcome.
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The, the thing that I find hard to explain to people is how it
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was in such a short period, of time, covid changed everything.
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Such a short period of time, that a couple of years ago, you
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would find SRS for 1,800 bucks. Yeah.
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That's just everything and but that's inflation and supply and
15:12
demand and there's only a finite amount of them.
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Yes. Yes and yes.
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But people are buying every the problem is people are paying for
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all for it. Yeah.
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But what about raising the prices in the end?
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People are buying it. So why are they going to stop?
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What I'm what I want to get at is that Like it wasn't.
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That wasn't the end goal, right? It wasn't just to have a
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super-duper modded car that competes with Adam L Z's or like
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all the other YouTubers like it's it wasn't about that.
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I feel like back. Yeah well I wasn't and that was
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only a couple of years ago. The fact that we watch that
15:45
change in front of our eyes is kind of crazy know that that's
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been going on for that. Wasn't a covid thing that I feel
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like covid heightened it because people got stuck inside they
15:53
wanted to build their board. Oh, maybe you're right on.
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Yeah. 240 prices changed. Yeah, but I'm 19 if that's just
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that's everything. Most most cars that, you know,
16:05
are tuner cars or like a car that people want, they're all
16:08
high in price right now. I feel like but yeah, I mean the
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older ones have skyrocketed. It's really as the to 40 but
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aren't skylines a lot of money to did.
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They go up? I feel like it.
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You could get a Skyline for the same exact price at one at some
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point for Co has a 240 right now.
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Oh yeah. You'll see an s13 up for 12
16:25
Grand. At least.
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The ones that would be the good example to buy.
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Yeah. 12 Grand and then you see a Skyline for like 15 or
16:34
something? Well, yeah.
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Like an R&B 20. No.
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I mean, I remember in 2015, you're able to buy GT-R for
16:42
like, about sixteen eighteen thousand now.
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It's like, thirty thousand dollars.
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Yeah, so it all it all went on. Almost everything went up,
16:51
wasn't it? I remember right before covid.
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I was like, or maybe it was during I was Like it's almost
16:57
better to buy a real 180sx than buying a 240.
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Yeah, it's almost shot solutely. Yeah, with the towing, this
17:04
doing Swap and everything it's like what that's insane and you
17:09
get it clean your chassis usually.
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Yeah because they only bring in nice cars most importers
17:15
rentals. So something that I want to harp
17:17
on when we were kind of learning how to drift was the excitement
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of when it would rain. Okay, when it would rain.
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Yeah and you're like, oh yeah, my K is about to kick right now.
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Yeah, have a low powered car. Heck yeah.
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Oh yeah. But then, once you start
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drifting more and you realize, oh, you got a grip?
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Yeah. You want the grip and it starts
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to go away. You can control it better.
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I mean, I could tell you though, after You know, getting my car
17:52
properly set up and actually going out drifting.
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I hate the rain. I mean the other day when I was
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a no pyramid started raining. I got off track and yeah six
18:02
laps and I didn't drive but it is good to do it because you you
18:05
want to be the driver that can go out and drift in the rain
18:08
while all the other guys are spending out, right?
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Yeah, that's what, that's what me and Josh always wanted to do,
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well, what we did do, because we would drive our cars in the
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street all the time. And then we go to Club lose.
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And we start raining, and then we were the only ones on the
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track. So you got a bunch of seat time.
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You know, and and it's fun. Yeah.
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And it's really easy much easier going and you should learn and
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you should learn how to do that. You got to control your car in
18:33
all situations no tires last. Yeah, yeah, you have no, you
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have no grip. That is huge, but that's, that's
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easy. So, that's where the good front
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tires. Come in.
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If you haven't ya Parable front tires.
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You don't even bother. You are going to.
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Yeah, not enjoy yourself. It's gonna be like you're
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drifting in the snow. Which no one should do.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it, unless you have snow tires, you
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should not be drifting in the snow.
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There's it's you're not going to learn anything for one and two
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it's date is straight-up dangerous.
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Like you're going to mess your car up.
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If you're doing anything decent, you're going to mess your car
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up. But then you also have people
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in. Like there's a, there's a guy on
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YouTube is names, drift some loose, he dressed these Volvos.
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Those are old cars man and marry most of the time terrible and
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clapped out and he's sending them through these mountains
19:25
fast. There's a there's a certain
19:27
breed and type of driving that. Yeah, if you want to get
19:30
Reckless you want to get Reckless but like I'm just for
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the most part, don't you? If you don't want to risk
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trashing your car. I've crashing crash drifting in
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the snow into Jesse and but I was not into 40, I'm pretty sure
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it was an STI. Well, thank you, what an ass?
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Yeah, about the snow. Just no tires.
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Yeah great. You can move in the stove but
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when it comes to stopping it's the same thing.
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Yeah. It's the same thing with people.
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Don't understand? Yes.
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You got. You can't.
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Yeah, you can't correct. Like yourself if you're going
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into the curb so you turn the wheel you're down, doesn't turn,
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you're done. That's it.
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And you hit the brake and and you're done.
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Yeah, you're like that. That's usually what happens.
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That's why it's, you know, I just wouldn't I wouldn't mess
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around in it anymore, but it's also because I drilled it when
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you're young and you, you know, no, you got to go out in the
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snow because it's fun. Yeah, you got it?
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Yeah. Just don't do anything too crazy
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because you could ruin your life.
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It's not the Takeover stuff. How we're going to do our
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conversation right now? Or is that?
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I don't know. Maybe we'll save it for saving
20:33
for another episode but yeah, episode 2.
20:36
Yeah. How to do these Once everyone
20:40
week you want to do, I would like to do one every week but
20:42
we'll see how. We'll see how this one turns
20:44
out. If you guys enjoy, see how often
20:45
Carl comes to the shop, I I get here when I can yeah he might
20:50
not be here in every episode. So yes I am going.
20:54
This is my baby. Okay, all right, we'll see.
20:57
But if at any time you know you're enjoying this, just
21:00
remember to tell your friends about it.
21:01
Tuned in trying to do these. Yeah.
21:03
And you should send us questions who work in these items
21:05
questions. I would say submit it on
21:06
Instagram or something and we'll definitely Make a live Q&A
21:10
action? Yeah I think that'd be a great
21:11
idea. We could probably do that live.
21:15
Let me cool because he's right once we get the camera set up by
21:19
do. Yeah.
21:20
Maybe we'll get the camera, set up.
21:21
One one day and actually cuz I'm filming this on my phone right
21:25
now and you guys might not even see this video.
21:27
We'll see if my phone stays on. Yep.
21:30
And then we will figure out how to do the live Q&A and start
21:33
doing these Live Events. We see because this would
21:35
happen, we can't we can't go too crazy.
21:37
We got too much stuff. On.
21:39
So but we just wanted to do this and get something out there.
21:42
You can have what's going on. How what do you guys got going
21:45
on over here at the shop? You planning anything you going
21:47
anywhere? Yeah, we're going to the next
21:52
Adam LZ event. What is it called clean culture?
21:56
It's a clean culture event. Now event, I think collaborated
21:59
with Adam L get set English times at Englishtown so there's
22:02
gonna be a bunch of invited drivers and they're going to be
22:05
doing a drift demo and there's just going to.
22:07
I'm sure there's a car. Well, they're gonna be a car
22:09
show. Clean culture is gone.
22:10
So there's a car show and then we're going to be there with our
22:13
booth selling merch and possibly Parts.
22:16
Yeah, so stop by the booth pick up some merch or just say hello.
22:20
And yeah, if you want to go to a pop, an event, that's the one to
22:23
go to, because the last one was basically bigger than Formula
22:26
Drift. I think there's more people
22:28
there that wanted really? Yeah, that goes back to the
22:30
YouTube thing we were talking about.
22:32
Yeah, it's just such an exposed channel of media that Yeah.
22:37
Drifting is huge. Yeah right now I mean that's why
22:41
we started our YouTube and that's why we're trying to, you
22:44
know, we're trying to post videos every week because we
22:47
know how important it is now after city after going to that
22:49
event, I was crazy. And now we're making friends
22:53
with a lot of YouTubers now to like, Jimmy Oaks Jim Yates.
22:57
Jimmy Oaks. Who else?
22:58
Shout out to Jimmy Oaks. Grant grant for sure.
23:02
Yeah. I feel like he's more of like a
23:03
cat. Yeah, I guess he's not a
23:04
YouTuber technically because like I was like I did I knew you
23:07
did YouTube and he's like, I don't, and I'm like, wait, what?
23:12
I'm sitting there like an idiot. I feel like I'm in a hole man
23:15
because I don't even really watch YouTube.
23:17
Like, I thought he did YouTube and like, that's why he was so
23:19
known. And then he's like, no.
23:20
I literally just, I know all the YouTubers and I'm on Instagram.
23:24
I need to get a cab. Yeah, yeah.
23:27
Like they just he knows like he knows that mlc.
23:31
Jimmy Oaks like Tommy afiya. So, and they're all from
23:35
Connecticut. So if you're a kid and you're
23:36
watching this stuff, it It's pretty easy for you to be like
23:38
yeah. I want to do that as far as
23:41
that's right. That's why drifting is huge
23:42
addressing right now. Huge right now Instagram.
23:45
All that stuff. Yeah.
23:47
And now it's big. It's only growing it's always.
23:49
It's always been growing since we started.
23:51
So I don't think it's dying out and you know, it's not.
23:54
Are you guys attending any? Are you?
23:57
I gotta ask. Oh, don't don't ask.
23:59
I got another question. I gotta ask, let's hear it.
24:02
We see you driving miyagi's car, a lot.
24:07
Where are you at in the process with the with your car?
24:11
As we would love to see have to paint the engine bay, I have to
24:14
paint the interior and then the engine is done.
24:16
I have to go pick it up. Is it really?
24:20
Yeah, it's done. Well, the only thing that's
24:22
holding us right now is that I have to tear apart the GTI our
24:27
engine and he's going to drop that off and pick up his engine
24:32
and come back. And a lot of money and a lot of
24:37
money. No.
24:37
No, I mean, well, yeah, what what kind of build is it?
24:40
Tell the tell listeners what, it's a 2.2 stroker kit from HKS
24:46
with HKS sleeves and cams and I have a gritty, what is it?
24:55
TD 06 GT that 120g 20 G RX series turbo kit so Top Mountain
25:04
don't so definitely pretty much a complete 180 no point in your
25:08
setup. But for my order.
25:09
Yeah, I remember I was very young and I saw Frankie's car at
25:13
a drift event and I looked in the engine bay and I've covered
25:20
in dirt, it was one, ya covered in dirt to it was a factory,
25:25
turbo, manifold, Sr manifold. Yeah, Factor you?
25:28
You run your. You're one of those people that
25:32
like, going that did why did you go that?
25:33
Well, Is. Yeah, their side from it not
25:36
cracking all the time. They there's some history with
25:38
that, I tried to do a manifold with.
25:41
Okay, well here's the one thing I wanted an external wastegate.
25:45
Well, what year are you talking about?
25:46
What did my car look like supposed to be between?
25:48
It was the darker gray? Yeah.
25:50
So I had a duck race manifold on the car with an external
25:55
wastegate setup. And then I ran into a problem
26:00
where I was, I was blowing. I was destroying break boosters.
26:06
They were overheating. They would fail and I kept
26:08
replacing them and it had to be the manifold because it was
26:11
getting too hot. It's getting too hot
26:13
interesting. And I was like this seems like
26:15
an odd problem mind you, this is like seven years ago.
26:20
So we I wasn't great with cars. so I'm like what my car feels
26:25
fine but you know it's blowing these boosters and then
26:28
eventually I don't know how we found out but eventually we
26:31
decided you know what let's check the timing on this on this
26:34
motor stretch it was just the timing was retarded like it was
26:38
yeah yeah and it was just the exhaust manifold was glowing
26:42
after I'd go drifting sometimes that is terrifying so wait a
26:46
minute so we fixed it and I remember getting on the highway
26:50
like we were just driving it was at my house and we left We got
26:54
on the highway and I punched on an on ramp and I was like, holy
26:57
shit. This car is completely
26:59
different. Like it was so much faster that
27:03
happened to us with our Sr, Chris rebuilt, the SR20 that I
27:07
had in my, I had a 240 before my is 300.
27:10
Yeah, and Chris rebuilt, it for me, I was going on vacation with
27:15
my family and Chris will be at my house rebuilding.
27:17
My engine was pretty sweet what a nerd but that motor was off
27:22
time as well. We thought we chat, we
27:25
double--triple-check the Kaz again, and again, bought a new
27:28
couch, guys. Took apart the cat as you swear
27:31
was a little disc in there, but it was a tooth off, I think, no.
27:35
So what happened was, when I was tearing apart, I had a friend
27:38
helped me and I took the chain off and I was like, hey, you see
27:44
this right here? Mark this side.
27:46
So I know it's the front All right, because, okay, it's okay,
27:50
Mark's. It.
27:51
Come to find out that he marked it backwards.
27:54
So, I went to go line up. The chain links they were off.
27:58
Oh, so it was mechanical timing Academy can take.
28:00
This was ignition timing. Oh, so yours was at the cat?
28:03
Yeah. Okay.
28:04
It was just, I don't know how that happened to it's weird.
28:07
You have to set it like a tooth behind, because when it goes in,
28:09
it clicks in. Yeah, but Lars was literally
28:13
just you just had to adjust the time.
28:15
Oh, that was it. Yeah, ours was.
28:19
That's a big problem. You know it's funny the story
28:22
about that is why I bought the Maz Works.
28:26
Timing tool? Oh well it's an it is a nice
28:29
tool to have. Yeah they make a lot of good
28:32
tools for for SRS while we're on the subject of gray car.
28:38
How long have you had that thing now?
28:39
Oh 2012, whenever Hurricane Sandy was so I think was twelve
28:45
eleven. Twelve, what made you want to
28:47
get the 240? Over 13.
28:49
Like obviously you wanted to get into drifting I had as 14
28:54
really? Yeah I got a feeling you didn't
28:55
know I did not know that. Wow viewers we are and
28:58
listeners. We have a I'm shocked.
29:01
I'm shocked, I'm shocked. I had got as 14 in like 2010.
29:06
I want to say how do you it's heart?
29:09
I'm sure it's a while now, but do you remember how much you
29:11
paid? I'm just curious.
29:13
I mean I'm glad you don't know about this because this is going
29:15
to be a good story. I just curious.
29:16
Yeah, I'm I'm, you know, I'm always listening.
29:18
The way you're saying um I know how much it was.
29:20
I don't know. I bought it with a friend.
29:21
I think we think we joined money together.
29:25
Yeah it was not. Yeah I did not buy a car by
29:28
myself we like because we won we didn't know we didn't know
29:34
anything. About 24 we had he had a couple
29:37
friends and I just started meeting them and I was just
29:42
getting into it and I was like oh this looks fun.
29:44
So you got exposed to it through somebody else.
29:47
Yeah. And then no option videos when
29:50
you're no. Nope.
29:52
Nope. Okay.
29:52
Not at all interesting. Yep, I was not, I was not into
29:55
drifting until like I want to say two thousand nine or ten and
29:58
I was just out of high school, so I didn't I didn't I was not
30:02
into it in high school. I had some friends that watched
30:08
Initial D and stuff and they would kind of talk about it
30:11
sometimes but they weren't like dedicated to it or anything.
30:14
But yeah, I wasn't into it at all.
30:17
I like Subarus and evos. Yeah, I do.
30:20
I didn't know that about you that you like Subarus because
30:23
you're tuned into the YouTube channel.
30:25
Portion of this you can see there's like a bunch of little
30:27
toy cars over here on this desk and there's Subarus on it.
30:30
I was like what? Yeah, I used to.
30:32
I used to quad when I was little and I think the dirt thing and
30:34
the rallycross state, I think that's what well I meant it when
30:38
you have this. I had that.
30:41
What Generations here? This works like a blob.
30:43
I or something. It was a blob.
30:45
I yeah. It was like, it was, it was
30:49
mine. One of my dream cars and yeah,
30:51
it was a smooth clean though. I like I couldn't.
30:54
Well what really happened? Was I got into drifting and so
30:59
you said that SDI needs to go. I said there's no reason for me
31:02
to have this because all I do is I could take care too much about
31:06
if it's going to get scratched or this or that, and I was like,
31:09
I don't want to do that. And I needed a truck.
31:11
So, It is that is that the truck?
31:15
You say, yes? Ha ha ha.
31:18
But anyway that's 14. I got we got it.
31:21
We brought it to a garage. We start tearing it down.
31:23
I don't know how much I paid for it.
31:24
Honestly I want to say like two thousand dollars I do want to
31:27
say two thousand dollars. Okay so you start working on it
31:31
it was a I feel like it was an automatic Ka and it was like a
31:35
crazy blue color with like a body kit.
31:37
Like it was it was it wasn't bone stock.
31:40
Now I was like a 2000s. Oh, sex Peck Bill Bill.
31:44
Yeah. Like it was pretty cool looking
31:45
but I ruined it and yeah, and I went the other.
31:51
I started going the other route. Remember, how we were talking
31:54
about? We you get the car and you drift
31:57
and then you modify it. Oh yeah, I wasn't doing you went
32:00
down. That was the other way.
32:01
I was like oh I'm gonna build this car.
32:03
Wow! Okay, yeah.
32:05
So I start tearing it down. Start having all these plans,
32:09
I'm stripping everything out of the car.
32:11
I'm going to paint everything. I'm going.
32:13
To get an SR-22. And I'm going to you know, I'm
32:17
going to build the entire car to what knowledge I can.
32:20
I obviously didn't know much. Yeah, absolutely.
32:22
But we had the internet so we had Sylvia.
32:25
That's all. Wow, the almighty Sylvia.
32:27
Yeah. Is that so it is back right now.
32:29
Nice. All right.
32:33
Yeah, so did that eventually. Paints painted it.
32:38
White finish the car and started drifting.
32:43
In 2010 or yeah, 2010 and 11 with that car.
32:47
You painted this thing yourself. No, I'm a coat it for like 500
32:51
bucks, I think. Yeah.
32:52
So I'll respect it. Is that, that's it.
32:55
That's the original. What?
32:57
That's the original color. I'm looking at a picture right
32:59
now. I'm going to try to describe it
33:01
as best, as I can to our viewers.
33:02
It looks like, do you remember what body kit that is?
33:04
No, it looks like some ran like an extreme Dimensions about it.
33:06
Yeah it's a random body but the color is really nice.
33:09
It's not the OEM I like that. I thought it what you were
33:11
talking about. It feels like a He'll like, oh
33:13
good. Yeah, it's like a lighter
33:15
version. Had five lugs on there.
33:18
Yeah. So it had five lug hubs and
33:19
everything. Wow, that's nice.
33:21
You could not. You could never put some
33:23
godspeed coilovers on it, you know.
33:26
Yep. Had some had roses on it.
33:27
So the, so the route that we were just talking about, you've
33:31
experienced it. So now you could say that's not
33:34
the route. Okay?
33:34
So yeah, no. So what happened to that?
33:36
I'm speaking from experience when I say that, yeah, I always
33:39
know you are for sure. I'm speaking from experience and
33:42
I've watched plenty. People go down that road and the
33:45
whole time. I'm like, so what are you going
33:47
to drift the car? When are you going to drift the
33:49
car? So when you going to drive the
33:50
car and they don't, and then they sell it a year later and
33:53
then, that was it. So, yeah, it's not the way to do
33:56
it anyway, and this is another good example.
33:59
So, I spent all this time building the car.
34:01
I do, a knight moves event, I don't know if you remember Night
34:03
Moves. Yeah, Publius, yeah.
34:05
Okay, so a Wednesday night, we go down there.
34:08
Those were the best events by the way, if anyone from Club
34:10
looses listening and can make that happen again.
34:14
So I do that. I do a lot of street street
34:18
drifting we go to Queens. In New York, the drift zombies
34:21
events and whatnot. They had raped zombie, they had
34:23
huge events, goodness and queens.
34:26
So we would leave work. I was valeting cars at the time
34:31
with Jesse and we would just leave and go drifting and queens
34:34
like, at 12:00 at night. Yeah, there's a lot of fun times
34:38
in that car, it was stripped out like total opposite of what,
34:41
what you are able to do. Known for having very yeah,
34:45
Everyone likes. Well, put together cars, I'm
34:47
always impressed when I see her. I mean, I still think this car
34:49
was like well put together but it was a different style.
34:53
Yeah. It was more of like a track.
34:55
Yeah. Our it was not the street spec
34:57
that you like that one. Yeah.
34:59
But it was close though. It was very close but it was
35:02
different. So what happened to it?
35:04
Why did what? Well, I crashed a couple times.
35:06
I think, well, I cracked and I crashed a rear end once whilst
35:09
reading somewhere. I never use that word but I just
35:11
did. And because you don't really do
35:14
that anymore. No, I just mean streeting.
35:16
It sounds so weird to me. I'm say, street drifting, okay.
35:19
But no, that's because I'm an old person.
35:21
And you guys are what do we call it?
35:23
You guys are almost like, a couple years younger than, I
35:27
don't know, man, but I also I can't really speak on my still
35:31
like a four-year difference with when you started drifting.
35:34
But like my point of view is that I'm somebody who drifts
35:36
only so often. So like I'm not really.
35:38
I'm just saying. I hear kids saying these terms
35:40
and I'm like, what the hell is that the best term?
35:43
Of late is mid. No save me.
35:45
No, it's a you know, I'm Time Out Swinging.
35:50
That's the Takeover term, is it? Yes, we're going out swinging
35:54
tonight. What that's what they say.
35:57
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, to be honest with you,
36:01
I'm kind of glad they have their own term because I don't want
36:02
them to say, they're going drifting.
36:04
Yeah, I don't like not. It brings a bad reputation to
36:06
the sport and yeah, they're not drifting, sorry, but anyway,
36:09
sorry what I'm good at. We're good at these.
36:13
So anyway, get the car, whatever drifted Street drifted having
36:16
the time of my life. I'm I think I'm like 20. 20, 20
36:21
years old 21, something young girl.
36:23
Yeah I'm going to college at Bergen so doing that I don't
36:30
know was fun. Drifting is fun especially when
36:32
you're getting into it. So you got rid of the no oh
36:36
Hurricane Sandy hits. Oh the garage.
36:40
I had was in Moonachie New Jersey.
36:42
Oh very much like that but yeah and I found it under 12 feet of
36:48
water. They 12 88 feet.
36:49
Order. I think it's eight feet.
36:52
The whole garage was submerged. So we we we heard there was a
36:56
storm coming, right? So we went down there and we put
36:59
the car. There's two cars in there.
37:00
We put the cars on cinder blocks.
37:01
Yeah, because we were like, oh, it's going to flood like two
37:04
feet. Maybe that's what they were
37:05
saying. No, we went down there in the
37:08
water line was, like, literally, almost to the roof of the
37:12
building. So, as you could imagine, that
37:16
was pretty depressing, after building that car for over a
37:18
year. So memories in it.
37:21
You drifted in it like it so yeah.
37:23
Used it at least? Yeah.
37:24
So you players a lot of fun. You did use it.
37:26
Yeah. So I had basically zero interest
37:29
in trying to fix that car. I lost 100 percent of the
37:32
motivation. I have.
37:33
No, I did not want the car at all.
37:35
I didn't want to deal with all the future problems I would
37:38
have. I didn't want to think about it.
37:40
I didn't want to touch it. It was disgusting.
37:42
It was filthy. I live.
37:43
I just spent almost two years of my life trying to make this
37:47
thing exactly what I wanted. And now it was covered in mud
37:49
and Water and I wanted nothing to do with it.
37:52
So all my friends try to get me to keep it and this and that and
37:56
I want nothing to do with it so I sold it as is I want to say
38:03
for 4 grand 4 to 5 thousand dollars really?
38:06
Yeah. That's a lot of money was a lot
38:08
of money. Yeah.
38:08
For what it was or what it was. Yeah I obviously lost some money
38:11
but yeah clearly but but that's a sport nothing was as expensive
38:16
as it was. No.
38:17
Like now like back then I probably Don't know how much I
38:20
built a car for but I want it too far under ten thousand
38:23
dollars, I would say not far but under 10,000 dollars.
38:27
Wow, which is pretty much not happening nowadays.
38:30
Now, you gotta be pretty lucky and you got to be pretty smart
38:33
about what you're doing, but, okay, so you got rid of it, you
38:36
can rid of it. Got well, I had it up for sale
38:38
for a long time. I want to say like possibly half
38:43
a year, really up to half a year.
38:45
Well, back then we didn't have Facebook marketplaces Craigslist
38:47
Craigslist. Yeah so I had up for sale.
38:50
No one wants to buy flooded cars.
38:52
No. You know, it was up there for a
38:53
while and I didn't want to go to that garage.
38:55
I don't want it. I didn't clean anything up from
38:57
months literally like a couple months.
39:00
I was like, every time I go in there, I'm I would grab a couple
39:03
things and my toolbox isn't there.
39:05
My brand-new Snap-on toolbox was in that garage flooded.
39:08
Like it was it was pretty shitty.
39:13
Yeah. So eventually I snapped out of
39:14
it. And went down, got my toolbox
39:19
brought everything In my house, my dad was nice enough to let me
39:24
use the garage and bring all my stuff back.
39:26
Probably cuz he felt horrible. So I ended up moving my toolbox
39:31
to my house, my parents house and I detailed the shit out of
39:36
that toolbox in the bathtub. I took all the drawers out, I'm
39:40
scrubbing. All the salt out of the things
39:42
that toolbox was nicer than it was when it was new.
39:45
It was the y-axis it inside and out.
39:48
So yeah, sold the Are found at s13.
39:51
I actually think I found this 13 before.
39:52
The other ones sold. I think, why did you want the
39:56
s13 versus another 14? What did you want to replace the
39:58
same? Love you had, or do you want to
40:00
just experience all of it anyway?
40:01
No. I realized as I learned about
40:03
drifting because I bought that S14 Without Really knowing
40:05
anything. Yeah, it's right.
40:07
So all I knew is like, that was the car.
40:09
You needed, you know, the 24 years I've to 40.
40:12
Yeah. And I probably did like this 14
40:14
more at the time but as I got into drifting I realized I liked
40:19
Like 180sx? I like that.
40:21
Look. So I was like, that's that's
40:24
what's going to happen. That's sporty design.
40:27
Yeah, I just like the pop up like actually.
40:29
It's not really a pop-up light thing, but it's the shape is
40:31
probably the rear end. It's the proportions.
40:33
Yeah, it's just looks like a sports car.
40:36
Yeah, it's the rear-ended rump. Yeah, but the Type X style.
40:41
Yes. Yeah.
40:42
Poke Tails. So found a car in Long Island
40:46
for $1000. It was running.
40:51
It had running the front end, was smashed a little.
40:53
So the headlights were like, bentback a little, but that was
40:56
it. They still worked.
40:57
They were just bent back. The rod support was like been a
40:59
little bit. No interesting.
41:00
Everything else is fine. Went there got in it, drove it
41:06
home as we're going through Manhattan and we're going to the
41:10
tunnel to come back. The fan starts, hitting the fan
41:15
shroud And it gets stuck and it's not spinning.
41:19
So it over heat and I'm like, oh my God, I'm about to pull in a
41:22
tunnel like, I'm right at the road before you turn and I pull
41:25
over. And I'm like, if I fucking go in
41:27
this Tunnel right now and I'm not guy that breaks down.
41:31
I'm like this is gonna be the longest night, Elizabeth
41:33
Lincoln's, a good title and and mind you, this was like 7 p.m.
41:38
on probably a weekday and my headlights did not work.
41:42
And the sun's going down Race Against Time and the engine.
41:45
Yes. So the sun's going down and I'm
41:48
like, all right, I got to make a decision right now and I don't
41:51
exactly remember if I fix the fan or if I just went for it, I
41:54
think I just went for it and I made it through the tunnel of
41:56
luckily, there was no traffic and got it home and It was an
42:02
automatic. It was probably Autumn.
42:04
Yeah, it was automatic. So I did the 5-speed Swap, and
42:09
then started drifting it like that.
42:11
And now you have to remember that was that wasn't my first K
42:14
experience, but that was my first real Ka experience because
42:18
you kind of delved into a little bit.
42:19
Yes, 14 with the KA was taken apart already.
42:23
I couldn't, it wasn't registered.
42:24
I couldn't drive around. All I would do is, I would go to
42:27
parking lots in the area where I'm not going to say anything.
42:30
Yeah. Don't blow this fine.
42:31
Yeah. We respect it in the areas that
42:34
we would go to. I would just I literally could
42:36
get I could get there and not get pulled over.
42:39
So I would just go there and do donuts and stuff but it wasn't
42:42
like a real thing. So now I have this s13 with AKA
42:45
and I'm on the street and I'm I'm trying to hit on ramps.
42:50
Like I would do in the episode of Teen with Sr and I was like,
42:54
oh, this is a lot different. Yeah.
42:55
So then I would start entering them like Fast.
42:58
Yeah. Okay.
42:59
And it was scary. Yeah.
43:01
Yeah. Like Ali Siri and yeah it
43:03
changed a lot. Like what made me away better
43:06
driver. I can only imagine.
43:08
Yeah, yeah so I was really glad I did that but I learned on a
43:11
single cam kit. You're a single camera single
43:13
cam. Yeah I learned on a single cam
43:15
K. That's kind of funny that you
43:17
said it overheated in the tunnel because I bought this single
43:19
cab, ironically enough it but used to belong to our co-host
43:22
here, Chris, he tried to sell it to me a year before I said, no.
43:27
But then I ended up getting into drifting anyway.
43:29
Yeah. So Downward spiral bought this
43:32
car in Queens. It was Chris's car.
43:34
He had a key on him and everything and he told the
43:37
previous owner like hey, do you mind holding your keys, I want
43:40
to try something. I have a hunch about something,
43:44
he puts the key in turns it on, I had bought a jug of coolant
43:49
knowing that the car had a bit of a radiator leak or something.
43:52
What you guys found Chris's car? Yeah, that's a long story short.
43:57
Me and my ex had a 240. Yeah, we broke up.
44:01
She moved to Virginia. I went down to Virginia bought
44:04
the car back on my way back. I went to Carl's apartment when
44:09
you're in Glassboro. I was like, hey, if you want to
44:12
buy this I'll sell it to you. 1700 right now right now it was
44:17
running and driving. Oh you just going to flip that
44:19
thing. So your stock so you can
44:22
integrate the time. He's like I don't know if I'm
44:24
really about the 240SX life. I follow a blob.
44:28
I was like all right so I bought it back to resell it because I
44:31
had the Sylvia in the works. Yeah.
44:33
Oh okay. So I sold the Z.
44:35
So the 240 told the 248 and anyway, I had no idea where it
44:40
went. So you didn't sell it in.
44:44
No and insulted. I bought it on.
44:45
I offer or offer up two years later.
44:48
Carl had a coup avenge about 240.
44:52
You had a coupe avert not well, the coop first, see it's giving
44:56
all that. Yeah, skipping all of it.
44:57
He had a slick, top Coupe, 89 beautiful car.
45:04
You were leaving his house. And right at the intersection of
45:08
this house, some girl in a Mini Cooper, smashes the front.
45:12
We just finished it, she just finished it Sylvia front, oh my
45:16
God, Sylvia Point, om metal fenders.
45:20
Oh my God, triple projector. Wait, you finish this and you
45:24
and a girl T-boned me. You pull it out of the driveway.
45:27
We don't go ahead was a Sunday. We are going to Bear Mountain.
45:30
Like after you after it's been done or like that day.
45:33
It was been done. Was it the first drive?
45:35
No. No.
45:36
Okay. Okay.
45:36
Was that he had drifted it already and stuff and a little
45:40
bit. But fast forward.
45:42
We a couple weeks go by and we find, I find this hatch and I'm
45:47
we go get it. I don't want.
45:49
What's up on offer up? I'll offer.
45:53
Let go, let go. Let go one of those app.
45:55
Chris thinks it's his car and Chris thinks it's his car.
45:57
No, there's no telltale signs. Like there's like a GoPro mount
46:00
on the dash, and be my old car. So we buy it and going back to
46:05
your overheating. Thing, it's like 6:30 in the
46:09
afternoon and evening evening and we're driving across the
46:14
gwb. The radiator leak was actually a
46:18
little pinhole in the upper radiator hose coming off of the
46:21
fuel pump or water pump. Sorry.
46:23
Hmm. There's a little pinhole there
46:25
and I preemptively bought a jug of cooling at a gas station.
46:29
I know, you know, with your luck.
46:31
I open know. Here's here's where the car lot
46:33
comes in. And to our listeners out there,
46:35
I'm notorious for having terrible.
46:36
Look, I I open the jug of coolant and somebody had dumped
46:41
out the coolant and filled it up with water or use and and I
46:45
bought a ten-dollar jug of water so that was already wrong or ten
46:50
dollars, whatever $20 my most on what I drove it across and I'm
46:54
smoking up the entire George Washington Bridge and I get
46:58
across, we Make it the traffic subsides.
47:01
I time. It's smoking.
47:02
Like smoking was bad. This is how bad it was leaking.
47:04
It was so bad. That when I was following him
47:07
there's coolant on the windshield, it was bad.
47:10
Oh my God. Bad bad bad, the following
47:12
guard. Yeah.
47:14
And and so we we I lived at home and I got it home replace.
47:17
The Reds, literally the same stories, main story sort of but
47:20
no 12. What yours is worse?
47:21
Well actually we got the gwb dad stop.
47:25
We were moving. I would have to turn the car off
47:27
and then turn it back on. That was my Fear.
47:29
That's why. I was like, I maybe I should
47:31
just be that guy. But like, what are you gonna do?
47:33
If you're in New York City like what am I going to leave the car
47:35
there? I can't leave a card or not.
47:36
It's going to get to not registered or anything.
47:38
I was driving home dirty. Yeah.
47:40
Same. That was the other thing.
47:42
Those are the things that I feel like we went through that.
47:46
Kids don't really do you know, some of that they probably do.
47:48
That's that's that's too kind of loop back to what you kind of
47:52
need to start drifting. You a 240 is a terrible starter
47:56
drift car nowadays. It is awful.
47:59
Well on a supply and demand standpoint what their inflation
48:03
within keep talking. I'm going to check the camera.
48:04
It's expensive. It's very expensive and it's
48:08
hard to get into Just because for what you're paying for
48:14
you're not really getting a whole lot.
48:15
I disagree. Because that's the only car you
48:17
should drift. You have a new employee here.
48:21
He's not here at the moment but date, he's a kid.
48:23
Don't get me started on young Dave, he bought the wrong car
48:27
FRS. Yep, we're to BRZ one of the zn6
48:31
chassis. Yeah, I love that car because it
48:34
has those same proportions that in s13 has long nose round rump.
48:40
Round rump. That's what I like.
48:42
And that's what's going on. Your your Tombstone?
48:45
Yes, round rump. I would be honored but I have a
48:47
very flat run on a away from that.
48:50
And yeah, I don't know yet. Yeah, it's a good car.
48:56
Aftermarket support for it. It's I wonder now years down the
49:00
line. What's going to be the 244?
49:03
The kit for going to be that because it's already, it's going
49:05
to be a 350Z right now. Oh no, it is the through Z right
49:08
now. But it's good.
49:09
Not going to stay that. I don't think everybody that
49:11
it's gonna be the BRZ used to be able to buy a 350Z for 4 grand.
49:15
Yep, a nice one, you know anymore not anymore.
49:18
I that was wild to me know if people realize you can just buy
49:21
a 240 anymore. Yeah, and it drove up the next
49:23
best thing but yeah, I don't know.
49:26
I don't know what to say to this because I'm going to buy what I
49:29
want to buy, no matter what. Yeah but if I was a kid Yeah, I
49:33
don't know. I don't know what I would do.
49:35
It's a different mindset. I mean, that's also one of the
49:37
things I admire about Frankie the most is that you you're
49:43
pretty true to yourself. You'll yeah.
49:44
And to be honest because you like it, you know what, to be
49:46
honest, I'm going to take that back.
49:48
You could find a 240 still, you can you have to put the time in
49:51
now, though. Yeah, you can finally perfect
49:53
on, you can make it work. What you actually, I actually
49:56
have to work, which Generation Z isn't really good at, so it's
50:00
they just want to get something and go.
50:01
Yeah, and if you want to do, That then yeah you got to get a
50:04
vrz or something like that. Which how much are they?
50:07
They're pretty expensive. 10 grand.
50:09
Yeah one hovering around single. Yeah, that's super expensive.
50:12
I can, I can still buy a beat up to 44. 6, G, 6 7.
50:16
Yeah, I feel like what five grand depending on the engine.
50:20
I feel like what people need to understand too is you can't just
50:23
buy this 240. It's going to make you a
50:25
miraculously better drive but it's going to be, I don't know,
50:28
it's more enjoyable for sure more enjoyable and easier I
50:30
totally understand that modification.
50:33
Even factor. Is it weird not to Sidetrack or
50:36
anything but once I got the Sylvia you draw.
50:39
Better drifting was way easier they do Dr. You get this wrong
50:44
and you have the Z. You had a zebra.
50:45
Is he in at 30? Yeah I mean we're not I'm not
50:47
talking out of my ass. It's 240 is the to me.
50:50
It's the best car. Hey Josh delese.
50:51
It's the best car. There's a bunch of us that
50:53
Dracula best in my opinion. Yeah, just feels great.
50:58
I mean, does it mean that? I'm not a good?
50:59
Don't feel great too. Yeah, I'm not a good person to
51:01
go off of because I I feel like as long as I can get around the
51:04
track. I feel like I'm probably going
51:06
to say the cars. Fine, I'm going to be like, oh
51:08
this car is good. Yeah.
51:09
Because everyone's telling me that the crush that it should
51:11
be, you know, it's going to feel like lazy and this and it's big
51:16
and it's that and I don't know, it feels fine to me.
51:19
I also have from don't really notice anything from an outside
51:22
standpoint. You have a pretty distinct
51:25
driving. Pretty precise.
51:28
I don't know what my driving style is but outside Bert
51:30
standpoint that I feel like you Have that sense where you're
51:35
still driving. You could tell you learn from
51:38
like a low powered car. The way you're hooking it
51:40
around. Yes.
51:41
And no, yeah, I know what you're saying.
51:43
I appreciate the compliment but I don't know if I sound
51:47
represent true but I do appreciate it.
51:48
There was no learning. Let you hop in the crescent and
51:50
you just went. Yeah.
51:52
But that car's got 300 horsepower.
51:53
Yep. I mean and we spent a lot of
51:56
time on it. Yeah we spent a year or longer a
52:01
year, probably a year assembling I'm assembling it and it was
52:05
longer to do the paint work and everything.
52:07
But I think, what what the moral here is that You need to put the
52:12
work in. If you want to drift, go out.
52:15
You need to do it. Yeah.
52:16
Just kind of caught honestly. If I didn't care about if I
52:19
didn't have a personal preference on like Looks and
52:23
whatnot. I would probably try to get a z.
52:25
It's a great, great darted amazing, but right away, I don't
52:30
like how it sounds. I don't like I would never buy
52:32
it. There's something about it.
52:33
It's a little. Yeah that too.
52:34
I don't really like how it looks so it's like so that brings us
52:37
back to the FRS. Yeah, that brings us back to the
52:40
a farce which I like more than the Z and it's a low-power car
52:42
but it's and it's a low powered car.
52:44
And the engines in stock form is fun.
52:47
I think it's fine. I don't have a problem with
52:49
boxer engine. Exactly.
52:52
I'm going to use one of our friends here as an example.
52:55
Yep. David Bob.
52:56
Yeah, you guys don't know who David Bob is.
52:58
It's drives. A FRS are BRZ.
53:01
It's a zn6 chassis and he absolutely sends the heck out of
53:06
that thing and he dropped car is like low.
53:07
Drives it all over the place slams it into a jersey barrier.
53:11
Keeps driving. It drives it home.
53:13
Yeah Dave hit he had his car set up like I had my a certain set
53:17
of it was slammed to the point where it's not really
53:19
functioning and he's still drifts it.
53:22
So, well, we put this in perspective, it was so slammed
53:27
that the upper control arm was bottoming out in the frame.
53:31
So basically, what this basically is suspension arms,
53:33
weren't travel. It's not working.
53:34
Suspension travel. Yeah, it's like you welded the
53:37
strut so we aligned it, but I told them, I'm like, this isn't
53:42
the suspension is basically not working because if it commits
53:45
can't compress Which is crazy to say but that really is what it
53:49
was doing. Yeah, the basic just welded in a
53:53
steel rod like it might move a little that makes it even more
53:56
shocking. That he's driving it as know.
53:58
He changed changed. I know.
53:59
Change the setup at some point, probably.
54:01
Yeah, I would hope so. That sounds insane, but no.
54:02
But he did, he would driver like that and my car was the same
54:04
way. You know, how many?
54:07
Oh my God, I don't even know where to begin with that.
54:09
How many times we change, rear control arms and this and that
54:12
because my car was so low well style.
54:15
And we're trying to figure out if you look cool.
54:17
Yep. Let's admit it.
54:18
Like it is said, I know. And I didn't call you verbatim,
54:22
but you did say that and I agree with it and like that's part of
54:25
my, one of my, we were trying to like, we were trying to, let me
54:29
rephrase that I was trying to tuck 17-inch rims on my car for
54:36
no reason. Like and I was like, I just need
54:39
to do this. So I'm like trying to change and
54:41
the control arms are slamming on the same thing the subframe.
54:44
Right? Yeah, the frame.
54:46
Yeah. So I'm like Buying different
54:48
control arms and like, trying to eventually we land on powered by
54:52
Max because they're angled. Yep.
54:53
And then, I ended up, oh my God, there's so many things we got
54:56
rear, drop knuckles. What do they owe?
55:00
So this is what we did. I got front drop Knuckles from
55:02
Power by Max and I installed them.
55:05
Wow, these are really nice because they move the drop the
55:09
pickup points and I actually had to raise my suspension because
55:14
it got low. I hope I'm saying this, right?
55:15
Yeah. From my memory.
55:17
This is what it? Yes.
55:18
Yeah. So I had to, I had to rate.
55:20
I think raise it, right? Yeah.
55:22
Something like that. Was it?
55:24
Well anyway, we'll keep going. And then I was like, oh well
55:28
maybe I can do the same with the rear drop Knuckles so I get the
55:31
rear drop Knuckles and I'm God, I hope this is right because I'm
55:35
doing this from memory but I put I put them in the car and it
55:40
didn't do what I thought it was going to do, basically it moved
55:43
where the axle sat in your knuckle, it didn't move the
55:46
pickup points. So it straightened out the axle,
55:50
I know, but it has to move and pick up points, right out.
55:52
Yeah, I don't know, but either way one of them did what I
55:56
needed to. And I got the other one.
55:57
I did the opposite and I was like, oh shit or didn't it
56:00
didn't change it. So then I had to get the control
56:03
arms and you know are the upper control arms and there's so much
56:07
bullshit just to get it to look the way I wanted it to look and
56:10
then we throw the body kits on and drive down the street and
56:12
they fall off every time we hit a bump.
56:14
So, style is everything. So now my car gets higher and
56:17
higher every year, and I think it's at a pretty good point
56:20
right now, but Yeah, so I but well I think that might wrap us
56:27
up here for our first faction after hours podcast.
56:31
Yeah. Because we're going to try to
56:32
keep these. We're trying to kind of try to
56:34
get these kind of consistent that and hopefully an hour, but
56:37
you guys let us know if you have any thoughts on that.
56:39
Yeah, let us know what you think.
56:40
Shoot us a message on Instagram or yeah if you want a shorter
56:44
please. Yeah let us know because I don't
56:47
I don't have a problem doing this.
56:48
I have yeah we're staying after work right now and trying to
56:51
bang these out before we go along.
56:52
It's look like the okay, Christmas joke locked in.
56:56
On that note. We gotta get the hell out of
56:57
here. Then, we are out of here.
57:00
Thank you so much for listening and have been for the next one.
57:03
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57:12
That's all. I know.
57:14
It's going to be a YouTube version was that obviously.
57:16
Yeah if I mean it was recording. So we're going to throw these on
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57:25
All right guys, thank you so much for listening tune in next
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57:34
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57:35
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57:39
All righty. Everything's free because we
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57:28
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