Latest / Foul Territory / Curt Hogg on Spiderman at Wrigley, Sophomore Chourio, Freddy P trade?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: He's a competitor, he's super fiery, he wants to play
- 0:02Speaker 1: through it, and he's catching just as much, if not more,
- 0:04Speaker 1: than every other catcher in baseball. So that's the kind
- 0:07Speaker 1: of guy he is.
- 0:13Speaker 2: We're going to get into another component of the Brewers
- 0:15Speaker 2: Cups game from yesterday, but I didn't even see this.
- 0:18Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of weirdness yesterday.
- 0:22Speaker 2: We'll get into Dennis Santana against the fan later. We'll
- 0:26Speaker 2: get there. Actually, we're not going to get into this
- 0:29Speaker 2: because it's just but who got hit? Sorry Biggie Hunter big. Yeah,
- 0:35Speaker 2: there's not much to say besides obviously thinking about him.
- 0:39Speaker 2: And I was watching that one live. Yeah, I was,
- 0:44Speaker 2: that's right, right, I was watching you faded it. Yeah,
- 0:46Speaker 2: I was watching. I put bones on the rays and
- 0:50Speaker 2: they let me down. But anyway, more importantly thinking about
- 0:53Speaker 2: Hunter and his fam and hope that he's okay. But
- 0:57Speaker 2: also there was a fan that climbed the netting.
- 1:02Speaker 4: That was going to be that strong dude.
- 1:04Speaker 3: They're strong.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean it's obviously good hitters throw their bat.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Ye John was high. So a fan did this? This
- 1:13Speaker 3: is a fan? This is allowed?
- 1:16Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all like Oh, so he
- 1:19Speaker 2: got booted, but.
- 1:20Speaker 3: They brought and brought him back. Then they brought him back.
- 1:23Speaker 3: He looks like he was ready for l s U Arkansas,
- 1:27Speaker 3: look like talked in with shorts. That's why I was like, pants, Oh,
- 1:35Speaker 3: khaki pants? Is that a look for a baseball game?
- 1:38Speaker 3: And maybe it's the business person special at lunch.
- 1:43Speaker 2: See to me, I'm like, you know, like I worked
- 1:45Speaker 2: for a minor league team, like those were the sales guys,
- 1:48Speaker 2: and I worked at the minor league.
- 1:49Speaker 3: They're at the game, they're sitting there like that.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Brewers beat reporter Kurt Hogue with us
- 1:58Speaker 2: back on FT. Kurt, good to see you. How's life
- 2:01Speaker 2: cover in the Brewers right now? Give us the goods?
- 2:04Speaker 2: Which juicy with this team?
- 2:07Speaker 1: Well, the team is playing pretty well the last three
- 2:10Speaker 1: fours weeks. They're kind of hanging around in the central
- 2:12Speaker 1: The Cubs are really goods, so they haven't made up
- 2:15Speaker 1: a ton of ground there. They're back in the wild
- 2:17Speaker 1: card race. And most importantly, Scott, we have fans at
- 2:20Speaker 1: games on Wrigley trying to climb nettings to grab bats.
- 2:24Speaker 1: So life is good?
- 2:27Speaker 4: All right? Well, well tell me about that. Tell me
- 2:29Speaker 4: about Spider Man. I mean the fan who we were
- 2:33Speaker 4: we were talking about a little bit maybe outfit choice,
- 2:36Speaker 4: maybe wasn't maybe, but he looked like he was a
- 2:39Speaker 4: He was a splunker, like a caver. So tell us,
- 2:41Speaker 4: tell us what you know about the situation of Spider
- 2:44Speaker 4: Man from Chicago.
- 2:46Speaker 1: As well as Funny Kratz. I talked to him. I
- 2:48Speaker 1: went down there and spoke to him. And that was
- 2:50Speaker 1: not the first bat that he had grabbed from a
- 2:54Speaker 1: net or not from a netting, but had grabbed in
- 2:57Speaker 1: the stands out of game. He got a Craig Bigio
- 2:59Speaker 1: Hall of Fame bad in ninety six. And then he
- 3:01Speaker 1: said there was a according to him, there's no there's
- 3:04Speaker 1: no evidence of this. We don't have MLB TV archives
- 3:07Speaker 1: to ninety six, A least I don't. And he said
- 3:10Speaker 1: Harry Carey was kind of chastising him for not giving
- 3:12Speaker 1: the bat to the elderly lady next to him and
- 3:15Speaker 1: told him chivalry is dead. So Brian Anderson, another pretty
- 3:19Speaker 1: well renowned announcer yesterday, was referring to him as finance bro,
- 3:23Speaker 1: which seems about right. And now, so now he's been
- 3:28Speaker 1: he's heard it from Harry Carey and ba who's obviously
- 3:31Speaker 1: one of the best going in the game today.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I mean you got I mean, that's like ninety six.
- 3:37Speaker 4: He didn't look like he didn't look like he was
- 3:39Speaker 4: making he would have been that old. Maybe maybe he
- 3:43Speaker 4: was like, how old is this guy? What is his
- 3:45Speaker 4: what is his profession? Because you talked to.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Him, ninety six was about thirty years ago.
- 3:49Speaker 4: That's what I mean. He looked like he was maybe
- 3:51Speaker 4: thirty five. That dressed to dress.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Noh, obviously wasn't five grabbing bats from elderly ladies.
- 3:57Speaker 4: That's what I mean.
- 3:57Speaker 3: It's probably fifty five, right.
- 4:00Speaker 1: This is my best journalism yet, he said, I think
- 4:02Speaker 1: he was mid to late forties. I don't remember the
- 4:04Speaker 1: exact number. It's on a notebook somewhere. And he works
- 4:08Speaker 1: in a beverage distribution of some sort. I don't know
- 4:12Speaker 1: the exact details. That's all I got for you.
- 4:14Speaker 4: It'd be great if it was Miller lite that he was.
- 4:17Speaker 4: So maybe he's a Brewers fan coming down.
- 4:19Speaker 1: To not a Brewers fan, No, not a Brewis fan.
- 4:22Speaker 4: That's why I dressed weird, because he was kind of
- 4:24Speaker 4: a loser, like like a Cubs fan.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Really, you're going after the Cubs. I guess you can.
- 4:29Speaker 1: I'm not commentating on that.
- 4:31Speaker 4: I'm a Brewer. Oh I read that in your article
- 4:33Speaker 4: that you didn't like.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Comsan right right, all right, So I'll give you something
- 4:37Speaker 2: easier to cover.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Do you think that Freddy Peralta could get traded? Like?
- 4:42Speaker 2: What's the percentage chance that Freddy Peralta gets traded this season?
- 4:47Speaker 1: I like it on the spot, I'll go to the Brewers.
- 4:54Speaker 1: A lot of people around the Brewers and in important
- 4:57Speaker 1: positions were a bit miffed by the way that the
- 4:59Speaker 1: Hater trade played out publicly and obviously on the field
- 5:03Speaker 1: that's really where they got burned. And the fact that
- 5:06Speaker 1: we're still talking about this, or at least I'm talking
- 5:07Speaker 1: about it three years later, kind of shows you maybe
- 5:11Speaker 1: there was a lesson of sorts learned there. On one hand,
- 5:14Speaker 1: the Brewers absolutely would get maximum value if they traded
- 5:17Speaker 1: Freddie Prawlt. That would shake up the trade deadline. But
- 5:20Speaker 1: Freddie means a lot to the clubhouse, obviously means a
- 5:23Speaker 1: lot to the pitching staff. He's probably going to be
- 5:25Speaker 1: an All Star for I believe the second time in
- 5:27Speaker 1: his career later this summer. He's pitching great he's a
- 5:31Speaker 1: leader in there. He's a friend to all the guys.
- 5:33Speaker 1: And also, I think this is important to note too,
- 5:36Speaker 1: he's a legacy Brewer. He didn't initially get signed by
- 5:40Speaker 1: the team, but he came up with them in twenty eighteen. Kratz,
- 5:43Speaker 1: I don't know who were you on the team at
- 5:45Speaker 1: that point, but he's Him and Yelich and now Woodruff
- 5:48Speaker 1: are the only guys that are the consistent threads through
- 5:52Speaker 1: this era of Brewers baseball, and I think that means
- 5:54Speaker 1: something too. We'll see about the off season, but I
- 5:57Speaker 1: personally think it would be an oversight when you're in
- 6:01Speaker 1: contention to sell him with a year and a half left.
- 6:06Speaker 4: First of all, no, I wasn't on the team yet.
- 6:08Speaker 4: He made his debut against the Rockies and struck out.
- 6:11Speaker 4: I mean, for Brewers fans, infamous, like he struck everybody out,
- 6:14Speaker 4: and he came up and they were like, I think
- 6:16Speaker 4: it was on Father's Day too. He came up and
- 6:18Speaker 4: he did all that. I got there a little bit
- 6:20Speaker 4: after that. But my question to you would be, you
- 6:23Speaker 4: saw the aftermath of and have heard all the people
- 6:28Speaker 4: that are pissed off about the Hater trade. How could
- 6:30Speaker 4: the Brewers do it differently this time if they're going
- 6:33Speaker 4: to trade them, because the value for Freddie Peralta is
- 6:38Speaker 4: what this organization thrives on to stay in contention every year.
- 6:42Speaker 4: So how could they do it differently?
- 6:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
- 6:46Speaker 1: There's a little bit too that Brewers fans and maybe
- 6:49Speaker 1: Brewers players are a bit more used to the way
- 6:53Speaker 1: that they know. They say they have to do it
- 6:55Speaker 1: this way, and you can kind of see why they
- 6:59Speaker 1: traded KORbin traded Devin since then, and so people are
- 7:03Speaker 1: a little more used to the Brewer's way of doing things.
- 7:06Speaker 1: It's just a little different when you are in the
- 7:08Speaker 1: middle of a race in July with two months to go.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I think there's probably a few different ways you could
- 7:16Speaker 1: handle it better. I think they're going to be in
- 7:19Speaker 1: Washington or maybe an off day on the on trade
- 7:21Speaker 1: deadline day this year. If you do it, you got
- 7:25Speaker 1: to be there. You got to be there talking to
- 7:27Speaker 1: the team if you're the guy making the trade. Pat
- 7:30Speaker 1: Murphy of all the managers that could probably handle something
- 7:34Speaker 1: like this in a clubhouse. That's one of his strengths
- 7:37Speaker 1: and one of his specialties. He rallied the guys last
- 7:40Speaker 1: year when no one thought they would do anything to
- 7:42Speaker 1: make the playoffs, win the division, and win Manager of
- 7:44Speaker 1: the Year. So look, I think you have to weigh
- 7:47Speaker 1: the pros and cons, and you can definitely see why
- 7:50Speaker 1: this would be something that the Brewers would have to
- 7:53Speaker 1: at least consider, especially considering they need some more offense
- 7:57Speaker 1: next year, in the year after that and as you
- 7:59Speaker 1: look down the road. But yeah, it's a tricky calculus
- 8:03Speaker 1: to handle, and I do not envy Matt Arnold's position
- 8:06Speaker 1: one bit.
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- 9:08Speaker 6: I want to stick on Pat Murphy a little bit, man.
- 9:10Speaker 6: This guy has been really good manager. He's been a
- 9:13Speaker 6: really good coach throughout the years. Talk a little bit
- 9:16Speaker 6: about a little bit more about his impact and what
- 9:20Speaker 6: he's done for this Milwaukee team and the players too.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Obviously we saw it last year with the team of
- 9:26Speaker 1: young guys that really rallied around Murphin this year, it's
- 9:29Speaker 1: a little bit of a different group and they got
- 9:31Speaker 1: off to a slow start and the approach was different
- 9:35Speaker 1: than it was last year, they had some team meetings,
- 9:38Speaker 1: they had some more talks, they had some more closed
- 9:41Speaker 1: door kind of sort of things, and now they're starting
- 9:44Speaker 1: to find their groove a little bit and you're starting
- 9:46Speaker 1: to feel a little bit like it was last year
- 9:48Speaker 1: with the chemistry and the vibe around the club. So
- 9:51Speaker 1: we'll see if they're able to catch the Cubs. That's
- 9:53Speaker 1: going to be a tough task, but they seem to
- 9:56Speaker 1: have finally found a bit more of an identity like
- 9:59Speaker 1: they had last year. And obviously that that kind of
- 10:01Speaker 1: stems from Murph and the energy and the attitude he brings.
- 10:05Speaker 6: Uh.
- 10:05Speaker 1: We saw he saw at the end of the game
- 10:07Speaker 1: yesterday in the Cubs where the Brewers were frustrated with
- 10:10Speaker 1: calls late in the game, and Murph spent about minute
- 10:12Speaker 1: minute and a half during the handshake line, uh, giving
- 10:16Speaker 1: the umpire a little bit of his his opinion.
- 10:19Speaker 4: Okay, so what else did he have to say about that?
- 10:23Speaker 4: Because he was you don't usually see umpires, I mean, uh,
- 10:28Speaker 4: managers that pissed at umpires when you win the game?
- 10:32Speaker 4: Was there some like did did Murph need a little
- 10:34Speaker 4: extra cooling off before he talked to you guys?
- 10:39Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 10:39Speaker 1: A little bit of cooling off. He he had a
- 10:41Speaker 1: nice cold. Uh, not an alcoholic drink. It just a
- 10:44Speaker 1: some caffeinated caffeinated water, some sparkling water that he likes
- 10:48Speaker 1: and drinks about twenty six of those a day. So
- 10:51Speaker 1: we gave him, We gave we walked in, we gave
- 10:53Speaker 1: him a few extra breasts. He knew what was coming,
- 10:55Speaker 1: we knew what we were asking. And he did not
- 10:58Speaker 1: criticize the umpires. He he said, hey, you're the one.
- 11:01Speaker 1: You're the one that said they were radic I didn't
- 11:03Speaker 1: say that, But then Trevor McGill, the closer, he's not
- 11:06Speaker 1: afraid to speak his mind, and he said it like
- 11:09Speaker 1: it was. He said the un bluesom calls late in
- 11:11Speaker 1: the game, which objectively he did.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Yep, there you go.
- 11:16Speaker 2: I'm going to take us in a different direction. I
- 11:18Speaker 2: want to ask you about a couple of young players
- 11:21Speaker 2: on the ball club and how things are going for
- 11:23Speaker 2: them this year. Because I see the numbers, But tell
- 11:25Speaker 2: me what you're seeing. Jackson Cheerio not having a bad
- 11:28Speaker 2: year by any means, but he's not having a superstar
- 11:31Speaker 2: sophomore season.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Right.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Numbers are from what I judge a tick down on
- 11:35Speaker 2: the offensive side of things. And then William Contreras was
- 11:39Speaker 2: hitting the snot out of the ball last year. Again
- 11:42Speaker 2: not bad above average offensive numbers by OPS plus waited,
- 11:47Speaker 2: but not superstar numbers like he was putting up last year.
- 11:51Speaker 2: So what's the story with those two.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Well, the story with both of those two is they're
- 11:55Speaker 1: not quite hitting the ball as hard as they were
- 11:57Speaker 1: last year, especially for True in the second half. Contrarists.
- 12:00Speaker 1: It's very understandable. He's been playing through a pretty serious
- 12:05Speaker 1: finger injury all year that and if they want to
- 12:08Speaker 1: fix it it would require season ending surgery essentially, so
- 12:11Speaker 1: that's not something he wants to do. He's he's a competitor,
- 12:16Speaker 1: he's super fiery, he wants to play through it, and
- 12:18Speaker 1: he's catching just as much, if not more than every
- 12:21Speaker 1: other catcher in baseball. So that's the kind of guy
- 12:23Speaker 1: he is. And you can definitely tell it's impacting him
- 12:25Speaker 1: a little bit at the plate, although he's his plate discipline.
- 12:28Speaker 1: His walk numbers are up and Tario that's probably the
- 12:31Speaker 1: thing to point to. His numbers aren't bad ops sitting
- 12:33Speaker 1: around seven forty seven fifty. He's got the power. He's
- 12:37Speaker 1: probably going to go twenty twenty again. But it's the
- 12:39Speaker 1: plate discipline. It comes and goes. The swing decisions they
- 12:42Speaker 1: come and go a little bit. But you just see
- 12:44Speaker 1: these flashes still where he's super duper electric at the
- 12:48Speaker 1: plate and you just assume kind of that he's going
- 12:51Speaker 1: to catch fire at some point, maybe have a really
- 12:53Speaker 1: ridiculous month and those numbers are gonna blue. And he's
- 12:56Speaker 1: also like adjusted pretty well to centerfield. I think that's
- 12:59Speaker 1: an important thing to note. With Blake Perkins out for
- 13:01Speaker 1: the entire year at this point, Mitchell played about three
- 13:04Speaker 1: weeks and he's been hurt since, so Cherio slid over there.
- 13:07Speaker 1: He hadn't played there in the big leagues before. He
- 13:09Speaker 1: looked really, really rough there last year in spring training
- 13:12Speaker 1: when they tried him in centerfield, and he's been all
- 13:14Speaker 1: right to maybe a little bit above average.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Do you have any injury updates for us on aforementioned
- 13:21Speaker 4: Garrett Mitchell and Big Wu. Big Wu leaving his last
- 13:24Speaker 4: start after getting hit in the elbow by a line drive,
- 13:27Speaker 4: which thought it was going to be his last rehab start.
- 13:30Speaker 1: But do you have any updates big Woo? Yeah, he
- 13:33Speaker 1: threw a bullpen or a live BP. I can't remember
- 13:36Speaker 1: him and nest Or Cortes are both in the same
- 13:40Speaker 1: general area of rehab. But he's going to go out
- 13:43Speaker 1: on a rehab assignment assuming that went well. He threw
- 13:45Speaker 1: yesterday and he was probably gonna make one or two
- 13:49Speaker 1: to three max, but probably two rehab starts. He's itching
- 13:52Speaker 1: to get back. And what's interesting is he said the reset,
- 13:56Speaker 1: like the elbow injury and allowing his body to do
- 13:59Speaker 1: some things in the room that maybe he hadn't been
- 14:01Speaker 1: able to hammer on, maybe in the lower half, really
- 14:05Speaker 1: made his the metrics on his stuff play up because
- 14:07Speaker 1: he was sitting ninety one ninety two in the fastball.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what metrics he was talking about.
- 14:12Speaker 1: It's you know, the IVB or the vertical break or
- 14:16Speaker 1: the spin or the vela or whatever. But he felt
- 14:19Speaker 1: good after a little bit of a reset to his body,
- 14:23Speaker 1: even though he got banged up in his final start
- 14:26Speaker 1: before coming back. So Big Wu should be back soon.
- 14:28Speaker 1: That'll be exciting for I think anyone that knows him,
- 14:31Speaker 1: Brewers fans probably like baseball fans in general, the guy
- 14:33Speaker 1: hasn't pitched in what we're looking at nineteen almost twenty
- 14:37Speaker 1: months now. And then Garrett Mitchell the other one, he's
- 14:40Speaker 1: rehabing a triple A right now. Could see him back
- 14:42Speaker 1: maybe next week.
- 14:44Speaker 4: Could be a shot in the arm, could take a
- 14:45Speaker 4: little bit off of the you know, the the weight
- 14:48Speaker 4: that Contraras and Cheerio are carrying with a bat and
- 14:51Speaker 4: maybe that'll relax him a little bit. Who knows. The
- 14:53Speaker 4: Brewers could make a little run here. But I got
- 14:55Speaker 4: a question for you. You know, the twenty five year
- 14:58Speaker 4: celebration is coming up. I got invited to the twenty
- 15:01Speaker 4: five year celebration. Should I or should I not cancel
- 15:06Speaker 4: all my plans and make it? And I didn't see
- 15:09Speaker 4: myself on the Home Run Derby selection crew that Ryan
- 15:14Speaker 4: Brown's gonna be. So should I not come to it?
- 15:17Speaker 4: Because they might ask Yasmani Grandal to come in my
- 15:21Speaker 4: place instead.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Well, a Kratz, you have to come. You guys should
- 15:25Speaker 1: do a live show and maybe a little short notes,
- 15:27Speaker 1: but you guysoud do a live show in Milwaukee for it,
- 15:30Speaker 1: and then we can do a framing competition with you
- 15:33Speaker 1: and whatever former catchers are going to be there. You
- 15:36Speaker 1: gotta be there. I can't believe the oversight. Unfortunately, fortunately Kratz,
- 15:42Speaker 1: they picked a pitcher for the home run derby instead
- 15:45Speaker 1: of you with Giovanni Gallardo. He could mash a little
- 15:48Speaker 1: bit back in his day. But he must have been
- 15:51Speaker 1: must have been an oversight. Sorry, I wasn't on the
- 15:53Speaker 1: committee framing.
- 15:55Speaker 4: Competition, Look, Kurt, I am all about I am all
- 15:58Speaker 4: about competitions and like stuff at like the All Star Game.
- 16:01Speaker 4: If they have a framing competition, I might change the channel.
- 16:07Speaker 3: You would be a one and done because then you
- 16:08Speaker 3: have the challenge system next year.
- 16:11Speaker 4: It's still the framing.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know you can frame others.
- 16:15Speaker 4: It's just not gonna be as valuable. I think John
- 16:16Speaker 4: Carlos Stanton's gonna start catching when they bring them robot homes.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he'll just sit on a chair.
- 16:22Speaker 4: He'll just both knees down, just be down to block
- 16:26Speaker 4: the ball and catch it and throw them out at second.
- 16:28Speaker 4: That's it.
- 16:29Speaker 2: They might allow you to have a chair at that point.
- 16:32Speaker 2: You can sit in a chair and just catch it
- 16:33Speaker 2: like that. Anyway, Uh, Gret, good catching up. Thanks for
- 16:37Speaker 2: the time then
- 16:38Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Pellis