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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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- 0:16Speaker 1: is our Divisional Round recap episode.
- 0:19Speaker 2: I am Chad Nolman.
- 0:20Speaker 1: I am joined by my bff, my companion, Mike and
- 0:23Speaker 1: Padre my co host, Professional Better Sigmon Hunter ETOs.
- 0:27Speaker 2: So I'm in.
- 0:28Speaker 3: How are we doing? Chad? Dude, dude?
- 0:32Speaker 1: We're going to get some perspective here because we literally
- 0:35Speaker 1: just had for sure, the worst weekend we've had this year,
- 0:40Speaker 1: pure offer on every game, maybe the worst weekend we've
- 0:44Speaker 1: had in four or five years of doing this together.
- 0:48Speaker 1: We were wrong on every side of every game. Everything
- 0:51Speaker 1: we thought would happen the opposite happened. We were convinced
- 0:54Speaker 1: a dominant defense on the number one seeded team that
- 0:58Speaker 1: was a huge favorite would be fuddle first year starting quarterback.
- 1:01Speaker 1: At least that happened. But did we choose the right one?
- 1:06Speaker 1: That is the question and so many other questions we
- 1:09Speaker 1: will answer on today's pod. We will go over all
- 1:12Speaker 1: the Divisional Round games. See how we did on Simon
- 1:14Speaker 1: says exec Decision Big Balls, foxhoul I might have foreshadowed
- 1:18Speaker 1: not well. Plus we give our first instinct takes on
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- 2:18Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, we will get to Bill's chiefs last. That
- 2:23Speaker 1: was our Simon says, first game up big balls bet
- 2:26Speaker 1: of the week. That was Houston plus nine at Baltimore.
- 2:29Speaker 2: That is the.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Game where the number one seeded team that was the
- 2:33Speaker 1: big favorite with the great defense did be fuddle a
- 2:37Speaker 1: quarterback in his starting in his first year and in
- 2:40Speaker 1: his second playoff game. We always talk about being on
- 2:44Speaker 1: the right side of the cresting wave. We did not
- 2:48Speaker 1: catch the wave in this game in any way. We
- 2:51Speaker 1: didn't jump off the Lamar trends. We did jump off
- 2:57Speaker 1: the Lamar twin. No, we did not jump off off
- 3:00Speaker 1: of the Lamar trends as a big favorite at the
- 3:03Speaker 1: right time. We did not jump off of the John
- 3:05Speaker 1: Harbough trends as a big favorite at the right time.
- 3:10Speaker 1: We had false hope at the end of the first half,
- 3:12Speaker 1: like the return by Steven Simms to tie the game.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Really good series by the Houston Texans defense. By the
- 3:22Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, we were in a back
- 3:25Speaker 1: door cover mode.
- 3:26Speaker 2: It's really it.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, though we got that kick return,
- 3:31Speaker 3: it's like you had that false hope. It's ten to ten,
- 3:33Speaker 3: we missed a field goal. We should have been winning.
- 3:35Speaker 3: At halftime, was feeling pretty good and yeah, CG just
- 3:39Speaker 3: laid an egg. And I had plenty of people bring
- 3:42Speaker 3: up the fact that that DC is the same guy
- 3:45Speaker 3: that shut him down when he was at Michigan and
- 3:48Speaker 3: Cgo was Ohio State, so apparently he knows how to
- 3:51Speaker 3: play him. And I really didn't buy into it too much,
- 3:53Speaker 3: but I guess they're kind of right. But it was
- 3:55Speaker 3: just it felt like everything that could have went wrong
- 3:57Speaker 3: for Houston kind of did the game really to me?
- 4:00Speaker 3: Said more about Lamar, right, Lamar came out in that
- 4:03Speaker 3: second half, drove down the field, got the ball back,
- 4:07Speaker 3: drove down the field, and then you got the ball
- 4:09Speaker 3: back and drove down the field. It's like, that's that's
- 4:12Speaker 3: MVP regular season Lamar. So the fact that he hit
- 4:15Speaker 3: his best half of football in his playoff career in
- 4:18Speaker 3: that game, we got got Yeah, like you said, that
- 4:20Speaker 3: was a bad bet, false false hope in the first
- 4:24Speaker 3: half for sure, where it's like, oh, they're in this
- 4:27Speaker 3: game and they were just never in it like CJ
- 4:30Speaker 3: just never never did the thing CJ usually does in
- 4:32Speaker 3: those games, which just keep things close. And yeah, Lamar,
- 4:36Speaker 3: Lamar caught us in a good spot like they're they're
- 4:39Speaker 3: they're a really complete team. And I saw the crazy
- 4:42Speaker 3: stats like everything head in his article about how well
- 4:44Speaker 3: they've played against the best teams this year, and it's
- 4:47Speaker 3: pretty incredible, Like they struggle against five hundred teams, but
- 4:50Speaker 3: everyone that's like three games above five hundred, they just
- 4:53Speaker 3: smack them. And that's the kind of team they are.
- 4:55Speaker 3: So Yeah, that that was a bad bet.
- 5:00Speaker 1: We got got is a great way to say it.
- 5:05Speaker 1: There was one thing that we talked about. We talked
- 5:09Speaker 1: about on the Favorites multiple times, We talked about it
- 5:12Speaker 1: on Green Dot Daily with Maria, we talked about it
- 5:16Speaker 1: on Convince Me when we were doing the show. We
- 5:18Speaker 1: were talking about this game.
- 5:21Speaker 3: C J.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Stroud all season long had been a different quarterback when
- 5:26Speaker 1: he was on the road playing outside than when he
- 5:29Speaker 1: was at home, and we just sort of decided that
- 5:34Speaker 1: wasn't going to be something that we worried about very
- 5:36Speaker 1: much in this game. I don't know why. I don't
- 5:41Speaker 1: know what. I think we just sort of we bought
- 5:45Speaker 1: the hype of how good he had been at the
- 5:48Speaker 1: end of the season and decided that that combined with
- 5:53Speaker 1: Lamar really not having proven it yet, not just in
- 5:57Speaker 1: the playoffs, but as a big favorite not having proven it,
- 6:01Speaker 1: I think that got into our head.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I think that's what it was.
- 6:03Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, and I'd also say we're
- 6:06Speaker 3: eight and two betting against Lamar is a big favorite,
- 6:09Speaker 3: So yeah, we got got there. But like I said,
- 6:12Speaker 3: it's we play the spot. We like Lamar as a
- 6:15Speaker 3: short favorite or a big dog, and a little foreshadowing
- 6:19Speaker 3: looks like we might begin them as a short favorite.
- 6:23Speaker 1: The Ravens defense was downright sick, and we have not
- 6:27Speaker 1: talked about them as a dominant team because when whenever
- 6:29Speaker 1: we talk about this team, we talk about Lamar and
- 6:32Speaker 1: I want to give I want to spend a second
- 6:34Speaker 1: just outlining some of the stats here because obviously they're
- 6:38Speaker 1: playing in the AFC title game against the Kansas City Chiefs,
- 6:40Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of foreshadowing and previewing for
- 6:43Speaker 1: that breakdown. These are numbers against the quarterback who led
- 6:49Speaker 1: the league in passing yards per game in this game, right,
- 6:52Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen total yards, ten total first downs,
- 6:55Speaker 1: thirty eight rushing yards.
- 6:57Speaker 2: If you look at the box score, it's just a
- 7:01Speaker 2: bunch of freaking zeros.
- 7:03Speaker 1: No offensive touchdowns, no points in the second half. Lamar
- 7:09Speaker 1: is the conversation because he was MVP, and people think, well,
- 7:12Speaker 1: they're not dominant because he's not dominant.
- 7:15Speaker 2: This defense.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Simon, we talked about Kyle Hamilton in one of our
- 7:20Speaker 1: breakdowns our favorite film room, how dominant he can be.
- 7:26Speaker 1: That's exactly what he was on Sunday. I cannot wait
- 7:30Speaker 1: to get your take on this defense against the Chiefs.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Given what we both thought of the Chiefs going into
- 7:38Speaker 1: this game against the Bills. How we are going to
- 7:41Speaker 1: frame how we feel what the Chiefs just did against
- 7:43Speaker 1: this Bills defense and what they are going to be
- 7:47Speaker 1: facing against the Ravens defense.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Fascinating.
- 7:51Speaker 1: We're going to get to that game in a little bit. First,
- 7:55Speaker 1: we have to continue with the torture and the flogging
- 7:59Speaker 1: and the self refla we're self.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Scouting right now.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Exec decision Green Bay at San Francisco, San Francisco minus
- 8:04Speaker 1: ten bad, my.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Bad, woops.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Look, we talked about dominant defenses on the number one
- 8:12Speaker 1: seeded team that was a huge favorite, that would fuddle
- 8:15Speaker 1: a first year starting quarterback.
- 8:16Speaker 2: This is the game we were pegging.
- 8:18Speaker 1: I can't tell if I dragged you into it, Like
- 8:21Speaker 1: early in the week you were like, yeah, that makes sense.
- 8:24Speaker 1: By the end of the week, you were all freaking
- 8:26Speaker 1: in on this game. You were one hundred percent with
- 8:29Speaker 1: me and I will tell you. I will tell you,
- 8:35Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, There's going to be a year. I texted
- 8:38Speaker 1: my buddy sat this today. There's going to be a
- 8:42Speaker 1: year where brock Perty wins the MVP of the league
- 8:45Speaker 1: and Deebo Samuel was voted MVP by his teammates of
- 8:49Speaker 1: the forty nine ers because that first series, this is
- 8:53Speaker 1: what happened. McCaffrey for five, party Samuel for fifteen, to
- 9:00Speaker 1: Samuel for nine. Then he's out of the game. Purdy
- 9:04Speaker 1: is off his game for the rest of the game.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's got to play for them to have a chance.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the Debo's Achilles heel, so he
- 9:15Speaker 3: will never be in that scenario. He plays. I know
- 9:17Speaker 3: it sounds stupid to say, but he plays too hard.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Even Kyle Shannan talked about this where they're scared to
- 9:22Speaker 3: get him touches in the middle of the season because
- 9:24Speaker 3: they're like, he can't not go one hundred and ten percent,
- 9:27Speaker 3: Like if he sees the guy ahead of him, he'll
- 9:28Speaker 3: never step out of balance. He's gonna try to run
- 9:30Speaker 3: through that guy's face. And that's just how Deebo plays.
- 9:32Speaker 3: So I love it. I'm with you. It's like, this
- 9:34Speaker 3: guy's incredible. I remember being really pissed off Eagles didn't
- 9:38Speaker 3: get him. We got some some guy named aj Brown.
- 9:42Speaker 3: It turned out to be an all right move, but
- 9:44Speaker 3: that's everyone wants to debo. Debo is such a game changer,
- 9:47Speaker 3: but he only knows one way to play. So, uh,
- 9:50Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from, though, Like, shout out
- 9:54Speaker 3: to our listeners who are at the live show. Apparently
- 9:56Speaker 3: I did say I was gonna take Green Bay plus ten,
- 9:59Speaker 3: but you're that's right. You talked me into it. A
- 10:01Speaker 3: bunch of people talked me into it, and I was like,
- 10:02Speaker 3: you know what if it's under ten, you guys are right.
- 10:05Speaker 3: That was a good number. And I think we had
- 10:08Speaker 3: three different times were lined up. We still could have
- 10:10Speaker 3: got that under ten play like it was gonna land
- 10:12Speaker 3: on ten and yeah, like any's sick of that gambles.
- 10:16Speaker 3: You always have this false hope and they had that
- 10:18Speaker 3: pick and you're like, yes, this idiot's trying to run
- 10:20Speaker 3: it back. We're gonna get that stoor cover, but no,
- 10:24Speaker 3: we'ven't deserved it. This week. None of the bounces went
- 10:26Speaker 3: our way, And that's what's so tough about playoffs. It's
- 10:29Speaker 3: like our read wasn't terrible. The thing we didn't predict
- 10:34Speaker 3: was Prety just not being himself right. It took him
- 10:37Speaker 3: a little bit to get going. But at the same time,
- 10:41Speaker 3: if you're a four nine ers fan, how are you
- 10:43Speaker 3: not just so excited, Like the guy led a game
- 10:46Speaker 3: winning drive. It's something that's so hard to do into
- 10:49Speaker 3: the playoffs, and you got to see that from Purdy.
- 10:52Speaker 3: So yeah, another game we got wrong. But at the
- 10:57Speaker 3: same time, like I felt like it was a coint game,
- 11:00Speaker 3: but the Green Bay felt like the right side from
- 11:02Speaker 3: the get go, where there Jordan Love was just playing
- 11:04Speaker 3: really well. I did not see him playing as well
- 11:07Speaker 3: as he did, so put us to that team like
- 11:09Speaker 3: Jordan Love every week he showed up here for these
- 11:12Speaker 3: last nine eight weeks.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Here's the thing, because I was trying to figure this out,
- 11:18Speaker 1: and by the way, I was doing the same thing.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I was doing the gambler's math, and at the end
- 11:22Speaker 1: of the game, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like, I
- 11:26Speaker 1: still got an outside shot at the minus two and
- 11:29Speaker 1: a half, I still got a very outside shot at
- 11:33Speaker 1: the over fifty and a half. Like I was just
- 11:37Speaker 1: holding on and it was not a pretty night in
- 11:39Speaker 1: my house. I'm just going to tell you my kid
- 11:42Speaker 1: and had all his buddies over.
- 11:45Speaker 2: They all ordered wings.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Two of them ended up puking because they got some
- 11:51Speaker 1: kind of something going on. So in the middle of
- 11:53Speaker 1: the game, I'm upstairs in my kids room cleaning up
- 11:56Speaker 1: because he's not feeling great. And then I got to
- 11:59Speaker 1: go back down. Jordan Love was not amazing in this game,
- 12:04Speaker 1: Like like in the first in the first two drives,
- 12:08Speaker 1: they had the ball for what the twelve minutes of
- 12:10Speaker 1: the first quarter. Completed five of his first ten passes
- 12:14Speaker 1: for less than twenty yards. Then he had that one
- 12:17Speaker 1: long throw, but they were just running the ball so well.
- 12:21Speaker 1: The Niners couldn't get off the field and they couldn't
- 12:23Speaker 1: stop there in Jones.
- 12:24Speaker 2: That was that was the ball game.
- 12:28Speaker 3: Yeah, he played really well, but it's it's more about
- 12:31Speaker 3: how Jordan Love plays in the red zone. Like it's
- 12:33Speaker 3: so hard to score in the league, and it's like
- 12:36Speaker 3: every week he gets two to three touchdown passes. It's
- 12:39Speaker 3: just crazy how effishing he is in this little floor offense.
- 12:42Speaker 3: But you're right, no, he didn't have his a game.
- 12:44Speaker 3: He had two picks in the game and Aaron Jones,
- 12:48Speaker 3: a guy who they were trying to split cares with
- 12:49Speaker 3: all season, I mean back to back weeks. How dominant
- 12:52Speaker 3: was he for that team. So it's it's just interesting
- 12:56Speaker 3: on these teams want to move on from these running
- 12:57Speaker 3: backs of the past, and sometimes it's like just play
- 13:00Speaker 3: the guy who's earned it, right, Aaron Jones earned those touches.
- 13:02Speaker 3: It was just where they went over from them this season.
- 13:04Speaker 3: But we had a Green Bay. How can you not
- 13:07Speaker 3: be so excited about your future? Like that's just it's
- 13:10Speaker 3: just crazy. Three straight guys they've drafted, I've hit. It's
- 13:13Speaker 3: just we all we all hate you Green Bay. I
- 13:16Speaker 3: think you guys know that. So that's just how it is.
- 13:19Speaker 1: They haven't had a quarterback issue since nineteen ninety two.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Who was that quarterback? Was it Harrorball?
- 13:26Speaker 2: No, Don Don mckowski even better? Who I remember.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Watching in my freaking college dorm room at Indiana University,
- 13:38Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it was Brett Farrer
- 13:40Speaker 1: and then Rogers and now Jordan Love. So here's what's interesting,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about this one too. In
- 13:45Speaker 1: the preview for the NFC title Game, Deebo Samuel goes
- 13:49Speaker 1: out brock Purty struggles almost immediately. He's indecisive, he's not accurate.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Just the game plan is totally different. And so of
- 14:01Speaker 1: course I was obsessed with this game this morning, reading
- 14:04Speaker 1: everything about it because I want to know if Dibo's
- 14:07Speaker 1: going to be playing, because I love this team so much.
- 14:10Speaker 1: And even Shanahan was talking about after the game how
- 14:14Speaker 1: much it changes his game plan and how much it
- 14:18Speaker 1: changes everything for everyone in the field. And he actually
- 14:20Speaker 1: pointed out that Cleveland Browns game where Deebo went out
- 14:24Speaker 1: during the game the Niners had a chance to win,
- 14:27Speaker 1: they ended up missing a field goal. He said, it
- 14:31Speaker 1: happened during the Cleveland game. We didn't handle it well.
- 14:33Speaker 1: We handled it better today than we did then. The
- 14:37Speaker 1: only difference in those two games is this time brought
- 14:41Speaker 1: Purdy the Livers with a touchdown instead of leading it
- 14:43Speaker 1: up to Jake Moody, who also missed a field goal
- 14:45Speaker 1: in that game. Cordon schefter, and again we'll get to
- 14:49Speaker 1: the Niners lines a Cordon Schefter. Diebo told people on
- 14:53Speaker 1: the Niners he was okay. Cordon to Michael Irvin, who
- 14:55Speaker 1: said he spoke to Deebo. Samuel Diebo said he can
- 14:59Speaker 1: lift his arm arms above his head.
- 15:01Speaker 2: He's feeling better. No no, uh.
- 15:06Speaker 1: No, sure confirmation that he's playing yet, but they are
- 15:12Speaker 1: starting to feel positive, all right. The foxhole Tampa plus
- 15:16Speaker 1: six and a half Detroit. Not to say about this
- 15:18Speaker 1: one kind of played exactly as we expected it too.
- 15:22Speaker 2: There's a two point conversion at the end of the game.
- 15:24Speaker 2: They were down eight, they went for the two. They
- 15:27Speaker 2: make it. We probably cover the bet they missed it.
- 15:30Speaker 2: We don't.
- 15:31Speaker 1: It wasn't a lopsided game. It played this This is
- 15:33Speaker 1: when we got right. We were just on the wrong
- 15:35Speaker 1: side of two point conversion.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Like I had a guy text me as
- 15:42Speaker 3: a joke, like, you guys had a good week. We
- 15:44Speaker 3: went three and one in the first half, Like fuck
- 15:47Speaker 3: you dude. That's no sick name though. It's just all
- 15:50Speaker 3: these all these second halfs were just brutal for us.
- 15:53Speaker 3: This one here is like exactly what we talked about.
- 15:56Speaker 3: We talked about Mike Evans is the receptions as touchdowns.
- 15:59Speaker 3: We knew that they were gonna really attack this Lion
- 16:02Speaker 3: still on the outside, and you know, it's just what
- 16:07Speaker 3: a time to be a Lions fan. Like I can't
- 16:08Speaker 3: get over the fact that this offense. Every time they
- 16:12Speaker 3: need seven they do produce. Like it's pretty incredible they're
- 16:15Speaker 3: able to produce for like this this playoffs. It's not
- 16:19Speaker 3: too big for him. And I know golf, Like obviously
- 16:21Speaker 3: he's been to the super Bowl. That's that's something real, right,
- 16:25Speaker 3: Like the fact that he has that confidence in himself
- 16:27Speaker 3: and he's playing that well. You know, he's making big
- 16:30Speaker 3: time throws in these games. Like he had a lot
- 16:32Speaker 3: of pressure to deal with today and he handled it
- 16:34Speaker 3: really well. Something we just saw the week before Jalen
- 16:37Speaker 3: Hurts could not make the hot read, but like he
- 16:39Speaker 3: made the hot read every time he needed to make it.
- 16:41Speaker 3: So the two headed running back monsters, right, like the
- 16:46Speaker 3: Gibbs Montgomery combo. One of the guys doesn't have a
- 16:49Speaker 3: great game, the other one really picks it up. And
- 16:51Speaker 3: then Laporta has looked better every week since the knee injury.
- 16:54Speaker 3: And then we know I'm on Saint Brown. It's like
- 16:57Speaker 3: all the pieces are there. I think that the the
- 17:00Speaker 3: fact remains me and you have questions about their defense, right,
- 17:03Speaker 3: And Baker, he had his moments. He just missed a
- 17:06Speaker 3: couple of throws that he should have had and it
- 17:07Speaker 3: would have been a different game. So yeah, came down
- 17:10Speaker 3: to a two point. Like we said, just was not
- 17:13Speaker 3: our week. It did not go our way. Easily could
- 17:16Speaker 3: have called a pass interference if Mike Geman has played
- 17:18Speaker 3: that ball differently. He didn't no need to call it.
- 17:21Speaker 3: That was a clean, clean play by the defense. And yeah,
- 17:25Speaker 3: I was just happy that Bowles went for the two
- 17:27Speaker 3: because I thought for sure he was not going to
- 17:29Speaker 3: go for two. Like I was like, God, this dinosaur,
- 17:32Speaker 3: this is why they want to take them to win
- 17:33Speaker 3: this game. And he did, like he shut me up.
- 17:36Speaker 3: He went for the two. He played it smart. Just
- 17:38Speaker 3: didn't work out for them. So yeah, no regrets. It's
- 17:41Speaker 3: about It's about we were gonna make. I told Drive
- 17:44Speaker 3: the number five and a half. If it was five
- 17:47Speaker 3: and a half four and a half, I would have
- 17:48Speaker 3: taken the lines is. We were just playing the numbers
- 17:50Speaker 3: and I have no regrets. Like you said, it came
- 17:53Speaker 3: down to a two pointer. So we liked Baker all season.
- 17:57Speaker 3: He was good to a saw season, just didn't didn't
- 17:59Speaker 3: end the way we were hoped with a Tampa cover
- 18:01Speaker 3: in the Lions outright, I was.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Thinking about you when Bulls is going for that two
- 18:06Speaker 1: point conversion because all season long we've been bashing the
- 18:11Speaker 1: guy for being a dinosaur, and so good on him
- 18:14Speaker 1: for not pulling Ron Rivera and playing the right play
- 18:20Speaker 1: and going for two there. You know, it was very
- 18:22Speaker 1: much like a Matt Lafleur move, not a Time Bowles move.
- 18:28Speaker 1: And yeah, we packed Baker. He had moxie. He did
- 18:33Speaker 1: right by us. You know, you just said the same
- 18:35Speaker 1: thing about Lamar, like probably eight and two betting against
- 18:38Speaker 1: Lamar in these big favorite spots. Had a nice year
- 18:41Speaker 1: back in Baker. No regrets on that one. This last
- 18:46Speaker 1: one the Chiefs. It's the flip side for you and
- 18:48Speaker 1: I of the Packers and the Niners, because when we
- 18:52Speaker 1: talked about it on Tuesday, you loved the Bills, and
- 18:56Speaker 1: I was struggling because I wanted to bet the Chiefs
- 18:59Speaker 1: and I just could not get myself over the hump.
- 19:06Speaker 1: And eventually I did. Like The conversation around this Chiefs
- 19:12Speaker 1: team and what they were doing offensively and how they
- 19:17Speaker 1: couldn't finish against Miami stuck in my head all week.
- 19:23Speaker 1: When you're watching this game as someone who literally I'm
- 19:27Speaker 1: convinced me yesterday you were pleading with people to take
- 19:31Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. When you're watching this game, how was
- 19:35Speaker 1: it planning out in your head? Where the Chiefs a
- 19:37Speaker 1: different team than you thought.
- 19:41Speaker 3: Different in the sense I thought their defense was so bad.
- 19:43Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I can't believe that easily the
- 19:45Speaker 3: Bills were moving the ball, and then you know they
- 19:48Speaker 3: held them with two field goals. I was feeling pretty good, like, Okay,
- 19:51Speaker 3: this is what we expected this Chiefs offense, and then
- 19:53Speaker 3: it just eventually clicked right, like they never punted. I
- 19:57Speaker 3: think maybe they had one punt that Chiefs offense. It
- 20:01Speaker 3: just I mean, Mahomes did what Mahomes does, right, You
- 20:03Speaker 3: did whatever he wanted that game, and you know mcdermotdd
- 20:08Speaker 3: like the whole defensive staff for the Bills, they just
- 20:10Speaker 3: never made the adjustments to get the stops. And it
- 20:14Speaker 3: felt like the Bills were kind of getting lucky to
- 20:16Speaker 3: be in it, like even though they had a four
- 20:18Speaker 3: point lead a half, Yeah, it felt like, Okay, if
- 20:22Speaker 3: the Chiefs open with a drive and a touchdown here,
- 20:24Speaker 3: we could be in trouble. That's what Mahomes did. It
- 20:27Speaker 3: drove right down the field, scored a touchdown. But yeah,
- 20:30Speaker 3: tough where it's like Josh Allen played such a great game,
- 20:33Speaker 3: and then he got tight there at the end in
- 20:35Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. And that's playoff football, Like it's really
- 20:38Speaker 3: hard not to get your head cluttered right, keep your
- 20:40Speaker 3: mind clear and stay in the moment. Not a lot
- 20:43Speaker 3: of guys can do that professionally, and Mahomes thrives in
- 20:47Speaker 3: these type of moments where it's like he's just so
- 20:49Speaker 3: locked in. You know, Josh Allen needed a touch out
- 20:54Speaker 3: at the end of the game, and we drooked before
- 20:57Speaker 3: coming on air, like if your last name's a fish name,
- 21:00Speaker 3: you're a loser for life, like you're never you might
- 21:03Speaker 3: do well in life like Trout make a ton of money,
- 21:05Speaker 3: you will have zero playoff success like Trout Bass. All
- 21:08Speaker 3: these fish guys. Get them out of my life. I
- 21:11Speaker 3: can't take it, Like just unreal that guy missing that
- 21:15Speaker 3: kick though, But even if you.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Made no idea where you were going with that Salmon,
- 21:19Speaker 1: Tim Salmon's.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I get him out of my life. But even
- 21:23Speaker 3: if he made that kick, it felt like Mahomes had
- 21:25Speaker 3: come down the field, get a field. There was too
- 21:27Speaker 3: much time, yes, So like you said, we were just
- 21:31Speaker 3: all on the wrong side of it. Where I believe
- 21:35Speaker 3: in the bills at home it never mattered, did it right?
- 21:39Speaker 3: Like there was no false starts. The Bills fans were
- 21:41Speaker 3: giving it their all, being allowed as hell. It just
- 21:44Speaker 3: never phased them. They never had false starts Like it
- 21:47Speaker 3: did nothing to that that Chiefs offense. So yeah, like
- 21:52Speaker 3: I thought home field was gonna be a big deal
- 21:53Speaker 3: in that game, and clearly it was not. They won
- 21:56Speaker 3: by one by three. So just can't say enough how
- 21:59Speaker 3: great Mames is and just keeps added to his legacy.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, even through his agony, is such a professional.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Don't forget Matt Mitchell, who was wearing a Buffalo Bills
- 22:12Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two Super Bowl combination windbreaker material sweatsuit for
- 22:20Speaker 1: the game last Monday in New York real time fact
- 22:24Speaker 1: checking reminding us that Tim Salmon two thousand and two
- 22:27Speaker 1: World Series champion with the California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt Mitchell. I felt like.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Los Angeles Angels never won anything whatever.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I don't know what they called themselves in two thousand
- 22:45Speaker 1: and two, but he was on the Angels when they
- 22:47Speaker 1: won the World Series. Was now saying in the Chata
- 22:52Speaker 1: nipple on Network TV, but you can let my children
- 22:54Speaker 1: see the most disgusting fake punt with the back. I
- 22:58Speaker 1: do feel like now game going, I do feel like
- 23:03Speaker 1: that fake punt reaked of panic and I'm just does
- 23:11Speaker 1: that make me, as an owner of the Bills have
- 23:15Speaker 1: to assess Sean McDermott right now. I thought that was
- 23:18Speaker 1: a terrible call, and I thought that in the at
- 23:21Speaker 1: the end of the game. The play calling overall was
- 23:23Speaker 1: terrible Joe Brady and McDermott defensively, but that call specifically
- 23:28Speaker 1: terrible call.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that was apparently they said on TV that there
- 23:32Speaker 3: was ten guys on the field. That's where they made
- 23:34Speaker 3: that call.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Right, they made an adjustment in real time.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Yes, that sucks where it's like, yeah, I would say,
- 23:41Speaker 3: why in the world would you not have Josh Allen
- 23:44Speaker 3: make a fourth and five decision like one of the
- 23:45Speaker 3: best players in the world, rather than leaving up to
- 23:48Speaker 3: Hamlin making some weird read where it's like they're running
- 23:52Speaker 3: it to the left here and just opening behind his
- 23:54Speaker 3: line and they push forward. You're right, like, it was
- 23:57Speaker 3: a weird call. But I do think it was them
- 23:59Speaker 3: make in the in game adjustment because they read that
- 24:01Speaker 3: there was only ten guys out there, so who knows
- 24:04Speaker 3: it could have been Hamlin's call. What I think that
- 24:07Speaker 3: all the Bills fans are mad about, even though they
- 24:09Speaker 3: din't have injuries for their defense, was just the lack
- 24:11Speaker 3: of adjustments right the Chiefs. I just said, I think
- 24:14Speaker 3: they putted one time in that game like that. That
- 24:16Speaker 3: means every time they have the ball, they're either getting
- 24:18Speaker 3: three or seven. Like you'll never win a home playoff
- 24:21Speaker 3: game if you can't get at least one or two stops.
- 24:23Speaker 3: And yeah, just just didn't worked out. Like Mahomes. He
- 24:28Speaker 3: had a couple of amazing plays, but it really felt
- 24:30Speaker 3: like it was the old school Chiefs where it was
- 24:33Speaker 3: schemed up, where guys were just open right, Like how
- 24:35Speaker 3: many players were guys just wide open. That's what we
- 24:37Speaker 3: were used to seeing from them. You really see it
- 24:39Speaker 3: this year. So yeah, in their in their biggest moment,
- 24:42Speaker 3: the guys who played it simple, just betting Mahomes blindly
- 24:45Speaker 3: as a dog. They cash again, I don't know it's up.
- 24:47Speaker 3: It was at nine to one on one now, Evan, Yeah,
- 24:50Speaker 3: we're the fools were going against it.
- 24:54Speaker 1: We're gonna have to break down these games a little
- 24:55Speaker 1: bit pretty soon. We're just gonna burn this film. Get
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- 26:16Speaker 1: Christ just dreadful Foxhole Tampa Bay plus six and a
- 26:21Speaker 1: half loser. Simon says, Buffalo minus two and a half loser.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Exec decision Stepsis go minus ten loser. Big Balls Houston
- 26:31Speaker 1: plus nine and a half. Le Wuz there her round,
- 26:35Speaker 1: Robin Houston, San Francisco, Detroit, Buffalo. All right, that's that's it.
- 26:44Speaker 1: We're done talking about this week. We're moving on. Everyone
- 26:47Speaker 1: has a bad week. The week before, Simon, we cleaned
- 26:51Speaker 1: up across the board. Then you have a bad week.
- 26:55Speaker 1: It just happens.
- 26:56Speaker 2: You got a rally.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Just a couple more weeks of football left Detroit to
- 27:01Speaker 1: San Francisco, Critisco seven point favorite.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Right now.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I've talked a lot about Debo. Here's the difference between
- 27:10Speaker 1: the Niners with him without Debo. When he was on
- 27:13Speaker 1: the field this year for a full game, the Niners
- 27:17Speaker 1: were twelve and one and won by an average of
- 27:20Speaker 1: eighteen points per game. In games he misses or starts
- 27:29Speaker 1: and doesn't finish, one and four zero to five against
- 27:35Speaker 1: the spread, the lone win being last night. It's like
- 27:41Speaker 1: they had one game where they won by less than
- 27:43Speaker 1: double digits. When he was on the field. The entire game.
- 27:46Speaker 1: That was Week two on the road at the Rams,
- 27:47Speaker 1: and they won by a freaking touchdown. Like, if he's
- 27:53Speaker 1: on the field, then we can count on it, which
- 27:56Speaker 1: we can't. You just have to bet this team he
- 28:00Speaker 1: starts if he is in the lineup. I don't know
- 28:04Speaker 1: how you don't play the percentages and bet the San
- 28:07Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Can't believe you're not on Detroit. This is this is
- 28:12Speaker 3: such a chad story. This is what you live for.
- 28:14Speaker 3: This is like as good as it gets as a
- 28:15Speaker 3: football fan rooting for Detroit. Here it's a big number,
- 28:19Speaker 3: Like I'm shocked you don't love the seven. This is
- 28:22Speaker 3: like this is the number. We'll always have a chance
- 28:24Speaker 3: for a back door, Like that's why we take these
- 28:25Speaker 3: big numbers in these games where it's like, you know, Detroit,
- 28:29Speaker 3: say what you want about them. I know there are
- 28:30Speaker 3: different team outdoors. The fact that they made it to
- 28:32Speaker 3: this point shows how good they are. And I feel
- 28:35Speaker 3: like the books are not really factor in how good
- 28:38Speaker 3: this offense is. Like here and there, they do go
- 28:42Speaker 3: through phases where they don't move the ball, but all
- 28:44Speaker 3: of a sudden they'll go three or four straight possessions
- 28:46Speaker 3: they'll score, right, They'll just drive the field and score.
- 28:49Speaker 3: And this forty others team we've seen, they're able to
- 28:54Speaker 3: be passed on. Like that La Lamar game, they were
- 28:57Speaker 3: able to pass the ball. Even Jordan Love, I know
- 28:58Speaker 3: you say he had the greatest game. He almost threw
- 29:00Speaker 3: for two hundred yards and he threw for two touchdowns.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Like you are able to move the ball through the
- 29:05Speaker 3: air against this team, right. It's the key to them
- 29:08Speaker 3: is their D line and their linebackers. So you know
- 29:12Speaker 3: there's ways that they can attack this team. I just
- 29:15Speaker 3: feel like at seven, it's such a big number, Like
- 29:17Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from. At six and a half,
- 29:19Speaker 3: you're like, I kind of want to take to the
- 29:20Speaker 3: forty nine ers. It'll be all for me to argue
- 29:22Speaker 3: on that, even though I know I have this modeled
- 29:24Speaker 3: less than that, but it's seven. It's like we have
- 29:27Speaker 3: to take this early Detroit. Is there is there any
- 29:29Speaker 3: world where this goes to plus seven and a half?
- 29:31Speaker 3: Like I just I can't see the books ever getting
- 29:33Speaker 3: up there where I can see this going down to
- 29:35Speaker 3: six six and a half towards the forty nine ers.
- 29:37Speaker 3: So to me, if you want to get the best
- 29:40Speaker 3: of the number. Now, it feels like the seven is
- 29:43Speaker 3: the grab for this game.
- 29:47Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I did bet the
- 29:49Speaker 1: six and eight Niners at six and a half.
- 29:55Speaker 2: I saw it.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I felt like it was going up to seven. It
- 29:59Speaker 1: may come back down, but I felt like it might
- 30:03Speaker 1: just level off at seven and not move like this.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Chiefs Bills game kind of.
- 30:10Speaker 1: It hit three for about a minute a couple times
- 30:13Speaker 1: and basically settled at two and a half. In the
- 30:16Speaker 1: lines this week did not move very much. It felt
- 30:19Speaker 1: like money was coming in on both sides. I took
- 30:21Speaker 1: the six and a half only because I wanted a
- 30:24Speaker 1: little bit of a hedge on debo playing.
- 30:28Speaker 2: I'm not overly committed to it.
- 30:30Speaker 1: It was more just like I'm taking what I think
- 30:32Speaker 1: I can get at the best possible number, and then
- 30:34Speaker 1: I wanted to I can buy out of it if
- 30:36Speaker 1: I have to.
- 30:37Speaker 2: I don't feel that strongly about it yet, except I
- 30:39Speaker 2: do like the.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Niners to dominate if Deebo Samuel was playing, that's fair.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Jared Goff against pressure. This has been his achilles heel
- 30:47Speaker 1: for him all season long. Like he was number one
- 30:51Speaker 1: rated quarterback I think according to PFF with a clean pocket,
- 30:56Speaker 1: but twenty second when he was being blitzed. The Bucks
- 31:02Speaker 1: blitzed on fifty two percent of his dropbacks. Yet he
- 31:07Speaker 1: was only pressured in the pocket five times because he
- 31:12Speaker 1: got the ball out of his hands so frequently, so quickly.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Two and a half seconds the ball was out of
- 31:19Speaker 1: his hands. So that's the good news for Jared Goff
- 31:22Speaker 1: as he was making decisions against what he expected to
- 31:25Speaker 1: be a lot of pressure. The Niners gift, though, is
- 31:30Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback without blitzing. Third lowes splitz rate,
- 31:34Speaker 1: fourth fewest blitzes in the NFL, but ninth most most
- 31:37Speaker 1: in sacks.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fears we talked all seasons about. It
- 31:42Speaker 3: is just the splits between him indoors and outdoors, right,
- 31:45Speaker 3: just an outdoors game. We know that's that's a real thing.
- 31:48Speaker 3: The splits are a real thing. But I just I
- 31:53Speaker 3: just can't believe it's this big of a number, Like
- 31:54Speaker 3: I'm shocked it's not four and a half, Like the
- 31:58Speaker 3: four nine ers are really that good. They're that much
- 32:00Speaker 3: better than the second place team in the NFC. It's
- 32:04Speaker 3: just interesting the book opening up that much where it's like,
- 32:07Speaker 3: you know, it feels like we got called within that
- 32:09Speaker 3: Green Bay game. It's like we drank too much of
- 32:11Speaker 3: the kool aid and that number was too big. It
- 32:13Speaker 3: feels a little bit like the same here, but I
- 32:16Speaker 3: can't fault you on it. It's like this, this offense,
- 32:18Speaker 3: this Fortyniners offense, is the best of the season. Right
- 32:21Speaker 3: there were number one almost every metric. So if Debo
- 32:24Speaker 3: is healthy and all the guys are healthy, I'm sure
- 32:27Speaker 3: me you're gonna go ahead ahead on this one.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I think we are going to be I think you're listen,
- 32:32Speaker 1: We've been doing this a long time. I know when
- 32:35Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me that you think I'm an
- 32:37Speaker 1: idiot without telling me I'm an idiot.
- 32:42Speaker 3: I don't have enough confidence. I think you're an idiot
- 32:44Speaker 3: right now.
- 32:44Speaker 1: After trust How foolish of me then to right now
- 32:50Speaker 1: be more confident than I've ever been in the Niners
- 32:53Speaker 1: at minus six and a half is ridiculous. But listen,
- 33:00Speaker 1: I'm not hot committed to this. This was a small
- 33:03Speaker 1: taste just to get it at six and a half.
- 33:06Speaker 1: In case I ultimately decided first instinct, there will be
- 33:12Speaker 1: a lot of conversations over the next seven days before
- 33:17Speaker 1: that game to really dig in and decide how we
- 33:19Speaker 1: feel about that game.
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- 34:21Speaker 1: Kansas City Baltimore game was opening three and a half.
- 34:24Speaker 1: If it's changed since we've been on air. I don't
- 34:28Speaker 1: know because I haven't been able to check the lines
- 34:30Speaker 1: if anyone wants to throw it in there, But any
- 34:34Speaker 1: first instincts here, I have no I have no read
- 34:37Speaker 1: on this game.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Ravens like I hit a couple
- 34:41Speaker 3: of three when it popped, and it's just like, all right,
- 34:44Speaker 3: if it goes to three to two and a half,
- 34:46Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all over the Ravens. And I already
- 34:49Speaker 3: can hear a bunch of pros on my head telling me,
- 34:50Speaker 3: how do you take Mahomes as a three and a
- 34:53Speaker 3: half point dog? And like after last week, I'm not
- 34:56Speaker 3: saying shit to them. I'll just I'm gonna let them
- 34:58Speaker 3: make their bet. I'll just smile against them, be like,
- 35:00Speaker 3: all right, take take Mahomes at three and a half.
- 35:03Speaker 3: Like it's just I got no idea how it's working.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Like that Bill's game. It couldn't have gone any better
- 35:11Speaker 3: for that Mahomes offense. So uh, if he does it
- 35:14Speaker 3: against Baltimore, I'll be shocked. Like I'm again, I'm willing
- 35:19Speaker 3: to put my money up that he's not gonna do
- 35:20Speaker 3: it against Baltimore again. So, like you said, we're gonna
- 35:23Speaker 3: break it down at crazy like levels this whole week.
- 35:26Speaker 3: But my first instinct is grab the three if you can.
- 35:30Speaker 3: On the Ravens. I just I just feel like the
- 35:32Speaker 3: professionals will be on that side, like it's a good
- 35:34Speaker 3: matchup for their defense. Like we haven't really died into it,
- 35:36Speaker 3: but their defense matches up well about just as well
- 35:40Speaker 3: as you can against a Chiefs team where you can
- 35:42Speaker 3: put Kyle Hamilton, who's long enough, fast enough to cover
- 35:45Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, and then just have to you know, different
- 35:48Speaker 3: guys spot Mahomes like they have the players that they're
- 35:51Speaker 3: really they do do matchup well against them. Now you
- 35:54Speaker 3: factoring that Mark Andrews should be back, Humphreys, their number
- 35:58Speaker 3: one corner hopefully is back for this Ravens team, Like
- 36:01Speaker 3: it just lines up where they should win this game.
- 36:04Speaker 3: And we all heard the stat in that Bills game, right,
- 36:07Speaker 3: the Chiefs have given up over five yards per carry
- 36:09Speaker 3: this season, like they do struggle against the run. The
- 36:12Speaker 3: Bills went away from it. I don't know why, but
- 36:15Speaker 3: they were removing the ball whenever they want it on
- 36:16Speaker 3: the ground, and then you know, by the end of
- 36:19Speaker 3: that third quarter they kind of switch it up and
- 36:20Speaker 3: stop running it as much. It didn't really make sense.
- 36:22Speaker 3: I don't really think the Rams will get away from
- 36:24Speaker 3: that's kind of their identity. Even that opening touchdown drive
- 36:28Speaker 3: by Lamar in that second half, right, he was using
- 36:30Speaker 3: his legs like we knew. He didn't need to force
- 36:32Speaker 3: it with his arm. He can just pull it down
- 36:34Speaker 3: and run. So, yeah, if you can get the three,
- 36:38Speaker 3: I would grab that. But yeah, this is one where
- 36:41Speaker 3: I could be flipped in that forty nine Ers Lions game.
- 36:44Speaker 3: This one, I'm not gonna be flipped on. Like I'm
- 36:46Speaker 3: pretty dug in on this one. I have this at
- 36:48Speaker 3: four and a half. I think you're getting a good
- 36:50Speaker 3: number three and a half. I'd rather you get the
- 36:52Speaker 3: three though, because, like to me, three, three is such
- 36:54Speaker 3: a key number. We want to get that for a
- 36:57Speaker 3: lot of reasons. Because Mahomes we've seen it. Mames is
- 37:02Speaker 3: the kind of guy where you can't kill him, Like
- 37:05Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if you're up, what the score is.
- 37:08Speaker 3: He's gonna keep swinging, he's gonna keep fighting. So I
- 37:11Speaker 3: get why they're pros are gonna comeing to take a
- 37:12Speaker 3: three and a half. But I just think that the
- 37:15Speaker 3: Ravens are the right side to me.
- 37:18Speaker 2: You know, one of the things we talked a lot
- 37:19Speaker 2: about with the Bills.
- 37:22Speaker 1: That worried me the most for this game was they
- 37:26Speaker 1: had nobody who could defend the middle of the field,
- 37:29Speaker 1: right and even today they only lined up they only
- 37:32Speaker 1: suited up four linebackers, went down to three linebackers for
- 37:36Speaker 1: a couple of plays because the one guy they had
- 37:38Speaker 1: playing middle linebacker calling the players was aj Klein who
- 37:40Speaker 1: was on the street. And in the broadcast they did
- 37:45Speaker 1: a lot of diagramming to show you how the Chiefs
- 37:50Speaker 1: were scheming their plays for Travis Kelcey to take advantage
- 37:56Speaker 1: like running sort of using the leverage to play against
- 38:00Speaker 1: the inside players not the outside players. And that is
- 38:04Speaker 1: one thing I don't think you'll be able to do
- 38:07Speaker 1: against Patrick Queen and Rokwan Smith. They're just there's not
- 38:12Speaker 1: a conversation between the linebackers from the Ravens and the linebackers.
- 38:16Speaker 3: For the Bills. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
- 38:20Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll dig much much deeper into that
- 38:23Speaker 1: one on Tuesday when we come back.
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