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Michael Penix Jr. Has Entered the Chat, Draymond Has a Point About Kawhi & the Salary Cap · The Regulars

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Thursday Night Football was interesting.
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Major League Baseball has a very big problem on their hands when it comes to
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the potential salary cap. And Draymond Green fucking hates a salary
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cap. So much to discuss and only so much time to do it. Tanya,
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welcome to the show. You know, it's going to be a good show when we're
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like, does Draymond Green have a point? Oh my God. We're the regulars.
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You are welcome back to another amazing Friday night. And yes, you are live right
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here with your best friends. Grab your drink. It is time for the regulars.
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We got a lot of sports to talk about and only so much time to
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do it because I got to get to the airport to get over to Las
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Vegas to see not only the Foo Fighters but Queens of the Stone Age,
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which I didn't even know was opening up for them. And I might be more
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excited for that than I am the Foo Fighters. Exciting. Yeah, I actually probably would
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be too. I'm not sure how I feel about the Foo Fighters in this current
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iteration. Is that because of the recent, uh, cheating? Not allegations, but facts.
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Uh, yeah, I don't care about, uh, about cheating. Like, again, like you and I
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have talked about, it's not my business. It's not my business. Like, whatever. Like,
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If it happens to my friends, like, then I'm unhappy, then I'm bummed
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for them. Like, yeah, but like, I don't know Dave Grohl's wife, right? Exactly.
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It's more about the, the child he was cheating with. She was
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quite young. She was like 19. Was she that young? Yeah, I thought she was
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like in her mid-20s. Like when they started, when he— oh yeah, it was like
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real young. Yeah, it's like Jerry Seinfeld in like '98.
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Yeah, Google it. Or don't if you really love Jerry Seinfeld, you don't want to
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learn something horrible. But if you are going to eliminate all of
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the creeps who technically sleep with legal-aged women way
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younger than them, we would not see a lot of concerts. So we're picking and
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choosing our spots, and I think it's gonna be a great show. I think so
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too. Allegiant Stadium, which I haven't been to yet, so I'm really fired up for
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that. Oh shit, I've driven by it a shit ton, but I've never actually been
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inside it. Real fucking nice. I haven't been in either. Fired up. But I have
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a question for you. You know, you know the lead singer of, uh, of,
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uh, Queens of the Stone Age, right? Josh Homme. Sure. Like, I mean, I'm familiar,
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but I would like you to Google him. I'd like you to look up a
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photo of him because I want your honest opinion. Because here's the thing. He used
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to be just this nerdy, gangly redhead who I— who was just
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the lead singer and a really good musician. Now he's like 55.
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Even, even I'm fucking attracted to him. Holy shit.
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You want to see a glow up? I think Josh Homme has done the biggest
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glow up in the history of rock and roll. Okay, now I see what you're
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saying. It's crazy. I see what you're— that's not like— I remembered what he looked
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like. OG. Yeah. Kind of like always had that like orangey hair,
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right? Yeah, now he's got like, you know, white hair and the white beard,
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and it's all really well put together, and he's in good shape, and he looks
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really good. No, you're right. And like, and so I think one girl posted a
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really funny meme of old Josh Homme and current Josh Homme, and it just said
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underneath, no one knows. That's really
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good, good stuff. Yeah, you'll have to take some, um, footage of him, how he
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looks rocking out. I will, I absolutely will. I'm pretty fired up to get over
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to Vegas, flying out tonight. If you're in Vegas, say hi to me if you
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see me. Uh, yeah, and I won't be there because I don't get to go
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to do the cool thing, but I am doing a cool thing with you next
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weekend. You are. But to be fair, to be fair, the reason why I'm going,
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it's not even me. My buddy Chris— yeah, I was invited. My buddy Chris doesn't
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know me and didn't invite me, and that's actually valid. That will be fixed next
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time, I promise. Which, once Chris gets to know you, he's never gonna invite me
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to shit ever again. That's what keeps happening to you. So, uh, as I learned
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at the Rose Bowl last week, I am just small potatoes next to the one
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and only Tonya Rae Fox. Yeah. Well, you know, that's what you get for having
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a cool co-host. But I have to be honest, Cody, people are loving you.
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My, my people that I brought to this podcast. Yeah.
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You know, my crew, which is significant. It's not insignificant.
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You know, my people love Cody. Now, I have— they have repeatedly
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accidentally called you Corey. And then they— happens. And then they— I'm like, oh,
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Cody. And they're like, yes, yes, yes, of course. And they're like, so cute.
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You have to understand, I have no issue or ego when it comes to that
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because I've ordered meals my entire life over the phone. Corey. Hi,
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Cody. Corey? Cody. Tony? Cody. Kobe. Yes, it's fucking Kobe. They nailed
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it. I'll see you in a minute. Kobe Bryant, thank you for coming. Appreciate it.
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Yeah, they're gonna be very disappointed when they see this, this young white boy walk
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in the door. Well, you know who would be really disappointed to see a young
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white boy walk in the door? Oh, headline number one. The Atlanta Falcons,
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because they have a fucking quarterback, baby! Who knew?
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Fucking Michael Penix Jr., man. And I'm happy for him because he looked,
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he looked real shaky in the first quarter and then really
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kind of stepped within himself and looked great. What happens when you're like— it's so
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funny, every time these guys come back from injury, we're like, oh, they look like
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shit right away. You're like, yeah, dude, no shit, he's been rehabbing
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for 10 months. Like, he— the fact that he played as well as he did
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in that game was fucking crazy. So Thursday Night Football, they controlled
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the game against the Packers the entire game. Like, that— it was not really— it
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never really felt like a game after the first quarter, not even a little.
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Well, there's, you know, Michael Penix Jr. is the B-plot of this,
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uh, particular game, even though he's the A plot of the, of the
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Falcons because he's, you know, the quarterback is the story.
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But in this specific game, it was really like
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Bijan Robinson being like, hey guys,
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just a reminder, I'm literally one of the best players in the NFL. Oh my
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God. Just wanted everybody to know I'm one of the best players. What are your
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thoughts on the Robinsons in the backfield of, of the wonderful Atlanta Falcons?
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Because both Robinsons had touchdowns. Full, full-on 3 touchdowns
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from the B Robinsons. And yeah, and by the way, I do wonder how many
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people accidentally drafted the wrong Robinson this year in their fantasy draft?
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A lot of people, I bet. 100%. I bet so many people.
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But, you know, like, you didn't get a bad running back. No, you got a
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really good one. Just not the one you wanted your first pick on. You picked
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him too high. Yeah. But, you know, let's go through some sort of
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through the game specifically, because I think this was actually a way more fascinating game
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than it was like a fun game to watch. It was fun to watch if
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you were a Falcons fan, for sure. But Michael Penix Jr. completely changed this
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offense. This offense was atrocious over the first 2 weeks.
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His presence there, it's not just about the raw stats, which were
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pretty good, by the way. By the end of the game, were pretty fucking good.
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He had completed 18 of 25 passes for 256 yards,
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a touchdown, and Atlanta had 500 total yards of offense
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along with Bijan Robinson and Brian Robinson. So this offense
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just looked different. It did. It looked amazing. Michael Penix Jr.
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is the perfect perfect fucking Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
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He is, he is exactly like what
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is perfect for that franchise. He was talking about his favorite quarterbacks all
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time, right? Like he, he went through them. Yeah. And he was like, oh,
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Mike Vick, Warren Moon, Lamar Jackson.
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I think I forget who else was on there. It might have been Donovan McNabb.
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It's all Black quarterbacks. Michael Penix Jr.
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knows who he is, the type of quarterback he is, and the type of quarterback
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he wants to be. And I was incredibly high on him coming out of college.
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Uh, so I can back myself up on this. I've been rooting for him
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and I was really high on him. Um, Bijan Robinson looked like the best
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running back in the NFL. Really did. And, and this is a, this is
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a running back league right now. Like, quarterbacks are getting hurt left
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and right and the running backs are taking over. I actually, I'm so fucking happy
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about that considering the fact that the, the running back position has
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been so undervalued for years. And I've always made this point to people. I'm like,
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How do they constantly undervalue it? I understand it's a dangerous
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position, but based on the injuries that we've been seeing in the NFL the last
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couple of years, clearly the most dangerous position is the quarterback. And that piece is
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getting paid through the roof while the running backs have been pretty stagnant.
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So I'm glad to start seeing guys starting to get paid. You who helped sort
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of bolster that and like get everybody out of that, like that
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sort of stuck margin is, is the quarterback, is the running backs over
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the last couple of years. It has resurged. And they're making,
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they're making it clear that like, if you're going to be a real competitor in
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this league right now, you need the running back, especially,
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especially if you don't have a particularly super elite running quarterback.
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Right. I mean, look at what Kenneth Walker is doing already in just 2 games
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in Kansas City. It's insane. It's like, holy shit. Like, you have—
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has the Chiefs been sitting on this technology for the last decade?
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They haven't had a running back like forever. You don't need a running back when
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you have Tyreek Hill, right? But then— and Travis Kelce in his
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prime. But then all of a sudden, You do it. That's what I love about,
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uh, NFL offenses and the NFL in general, football in general.
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Season to season, you see these, like, these trends for over
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these 2, 3-year spans that you just don't see in other sports.
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Yeah, you don't see basketball change this dramatically over
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the, like, every couple of years. It just doesn't happen. Same thing with baseball,
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same thing. Like, it's not built for that. But all— but Constant
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scheme changes, constant like adapting to new things is
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always happening in football. And it's why it like keeps my little ADHD brain so
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like locked in. Drake London also had a fucking massive
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game. So like, first of all,
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I want to make it very clear, Drake London is sick. Hands,
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all hands team. Dude catches balls slower
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than I would like. Yes. You notice that too, huh?
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I was wondering if anyone— I was like, huh? Is he running in fucking water?
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He is. Great catch. I realize he's 6'4. Like,
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he's, he's big and long. Yeah, man. Or he might even be 6'5.
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He's tall as fuck. He's the size of a tight end. And so he— and
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he moves a lot more like a tight end. But also, like, it was just
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funny because there would be times where he had an open field and I'm like,
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man, he's getting caught. Like, a real— and then there was one where he did
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a cut and he was like— it was like the slowest juke move. You know
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what's funny? It gives me— it gives me new appreciation for somebody who is extremely
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talented, like a— and when I say new appreciation, I'm referring only to his on-field
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talent, uh, of Puka Nacua. Kuba because his YAC yardage is
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just like ridiculous. Is Puka that big? He's pretty fucking big. I know
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he's not small. He's pretty big. I'm standing next to him. I don't know
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this, but I would guess that based on my experience, I would say 6'3.
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Okay. 6'3 and probably 240, maybe 230. He's a
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big kid. Thick dude. He's a big kid. Yeah. Like he's, he's built like a
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tank, but he moves like he's fucking fast. He's fast. Drake,
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though, has, has hands for days. And I really thought it was an incredible performance.
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We have to talk a little bit about what's going on with the Packers,
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though. Specifically. Holy shit, because this is just about— they are fucking
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bad, you know. Oh, we need to put it on record that as happy
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as I am for both Falcons fans, Michael Penix Jr., who I'm psyched about,
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and I actually think this was a real coming-out game for him,
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all, all of everybody on the Falcons, it pains me that this benefits Kevin
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Stefanski. It pains me to my core. It's real annoying.
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It's really annoying. He tried so hard to be like Cooper Rush
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could be the guy, and now he's like I told you guys Michael Pettix was
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awesome. Fuck you. Oh, fuck off. Fuck off.
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Yeah, it's like you just, you, you just fucking walked into Willie
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Beeman. Shut up. You didn't, you didn't do this. You didn't do
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this. You got lucky. He saved your fucking
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career, Al Pacino. Yeah. Um, on the flip side,
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Matt Lefleur. I was, I was defending Matt Lefleur up until last year.
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I thought Matt Lefleur was an improvement over Mike McCarthy.
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He was. Um, and I thought he was. Yeah, he was. And,
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and had really like instituted a legitimate offense there that worked.
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I liked how Jordan Love looked early on, whatever. Like, that shit has gone so
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stale. Um, Jordan Love threw 53 passes
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in that game while the Packers only had 9 rushing attempts for 17 yards.
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I have run the numbers on this before. I didn't do it before this show.
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But when you have a quarterback throwing over 50 times in
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any game, bad. Yeah. Your quarterback
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should never be throwing that much. Never, never, never. And if he
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is, it should be because you played a full overtime period and you
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still ran the ball 30 times. Like, it just— it should be an anomaly.
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Yes. But that's— that right there.
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And I cannot stress this enough. That is coaching malpractice.
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I— Jordan Love is being set up to fail in
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a way that is really frustrating me. He's not off the hook.
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He is not off the hook. And I'm not saying that, but every
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single— bar none, I would say this about Justin Herbert. I would say this
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about quarterbacks I hate. And when they have to throw the ball 50 times and
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you haven't rushed it more than 10, it's a problem. That's not on you anymore.
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No, no, that's not on you. That's just bad coaching. That's a bad scheme.
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That's a bad everything. They couldn't establish anything
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other than Love and, you know, repeatedly left it on him to deal
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with it. And their discipline issues are, are really coming through.
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That is coaching always, every time, is it not? It's coaching.
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Green Bay entered the game having committed an NFL-high 26 penalties through 2
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weeks. The problems continued Thursday. One particularly costly sequence came
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after Atlanta appeared to face 3rd and long. A roughing the passer penalty gave
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the Falcons a first down, and Bijan immediately ripped off a 55-yard run that set
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up their first touchdown. This is a team that is in complete
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disarray. And I'm not— I can't look anywhere
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but Matt LaFleur, who was already on the hot seat. Yes. Already starting to get
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some eye rolls, was already saying, look at what Ben Johnson's doing. Look at what
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Dan Campbell's done. Look at what, you know, what KOC— like these other teams in
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the division. Tanya, did you just see the face of their fans
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yesterday? Yeah. That's all you need. Like, it's all you— there was a woman.
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To be fair, Packers fans are— No, no, no. I'm enjoying this. I want to
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make this abundantly clear. Yeah. I really don't love Packer fans.
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Don't hate them, but don't love them either. Seeing them in
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pain brought me at least a little bit of joy. Seeing the
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woman taking her pulse was the funniest fucking thing
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I'd ever seen in my life. She did like a news interview about that,
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by the way. I know, because the Packers were trying to kill her and
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it was amazing. I cannot stress enough the disappointing faces,
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the good Prime Video. I have never given you guys credit for any
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Thursday Night Football. I usually dislike Thursday Night Football and the production's always been A+.
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Last night, that was funny as fuck. A fucking plus. Just every single Packer fan
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that you guys found. I'm going to do that when, when you start saying something
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boring, I'm going to be like, not that you ever do that, really, but like,
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if you do, if you ever do, that's what I'm going to do. You haven't.
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You haven't. I'm just, I'm just letting you know if I ever do it,
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that's what's happening. Good to know. Fuck me. I did say it hasn't happened
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yet. Yeah, trust me. I'm not the most boring guy in the world. No,
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you're not. No, you're not boring at all. I know. That's why it would be
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surprising if I somehow bore you. Then we got just— the Packers.
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Packers. I'm surprised I'm bored by them. I really am.
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Like, I, I have— I, I've always thought that
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this iteration of the Packers was actually like more interesting than late-stage Aaron
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Rodgers Packers, even when he was in MVP mode. So I'm concerned. I'm officially
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concerned. They look like trash. What do we got? Good question here.
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Who is your favorite slash least favorite fans? Oh,
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I know. Okay, so I got this off the top of my head. Let's go.
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My least favorite fans are 49ers fans.
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I get that. And it's like— and this is— it's my girlfriend's a
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49er fan. Yeah. And it sucks to say because like I actually in my life
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have a lot of like cool 49ers fans and in my following that I do
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like them. But by and large, as a fandom, they are a full
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They're an extreme don't-know-ball fan base. I don't know why. It does not make
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any sense. And when I say that, I mean like, I— they— I can't get—
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they have no self-awareness. And I, I, I've broken
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through with every fan base, like even ones that I don't always get along with.
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There's like pockets of them. Unless someone is my— which
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sounds self-centered, but unless someone is my follower or my friend,
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49ers fans are really hard to discourse with. I get that.
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Favorite fans? My favorite fans are Jets fans.
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My favorite fans are Jets fans because I— when I meet Jets fans,
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they are completely self-aware. They ride hard.
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They do. They never— they've— there's no reason for them to still like that team,
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and they still do. That is— they're never like— there is no shit
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talk. They don't do the thing where they, they shit talk me because I'm a
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Patriots fan. Like, they'll do like, oh yeah, but they— but they're not actual
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dicks where I've had Bills fans be dicks to me, Dolphins fans. Jets fans are
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so beaten down, but, but like deeply loyal.
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And, and I like my whole life, I've never seen less
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Jets fans and they should have no fans. And this isn't
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a Browns situation where there's like all this
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other drama. The Jets have just been there the whole time. There's no Deshaun Watson.
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They got Geno. They got a cool coach and a cool quarterback.
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I'm team Jets fans. Um, so my honorable mention of
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these— and they know ball, by the way. That they— some of them do.
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Yes. Well, I mean, we're talking broad strokes. I want to say this. My honorable
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mention for least favorite— I'm giving them an honorable mention, okay— is Jets fans.
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And I'm going to tell you why, okay? And it's very simple, because normally,
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based on what you just said, I would normally agree with you like 100%.
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They, they ride or die with this team that has done nothing but bludgeon
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them over the fucking head for 50-plus years. That being said,
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I was there in 2023 and the actions
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of Jets fans and through the whole Aaron Rodgers shit
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all the way into that Game 1 when he ran out holding the flag.
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Jets fans while living in New York City, like, like at the game or in
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the city? In the city. Leading up those 3 months leading up
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to that first set of downs. Yeah. Was the most annoying grouping
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of human beings I had ever seen in my life. They went from being Jets
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fans, understanding who they were to We are now world
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championship Jets fans. It's our league and none of you.
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It was the most insane, batshit behavior
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I've ever seen. And it was. But this is where I'm going to give them
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credit. On play 4, they remembered
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who they were again. Yeah, it's like I feel like that's how you
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act when you get a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback. I get it.
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But it was, it was rough. I was in New York. I was in the
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shit. I'll tell you who sucked. It was tough. I'll tell you who sucked when
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they got a great quarterback. The 14 Bucs fans. Oh dude, they sucked. Dude,
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Bucs fans are so bad. They suck. They're on my list. Yeah, but number one,
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I'm sorry, guys, probably all watching the show, he's a huge Bucs fan. I'm sorry,
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but they sucked. Um, I will say my least favorite fan base though,
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truly, it used to be the Cowboys, but now, now they're just fucking
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funny that they won't give up on them boys. Um, it's Chiefs fans.
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Chiefs fans have become so fucking annoying. Um,
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yeah, so fucking annoying. It's a See, to me, I can't do that
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because I'm a Patriots fan. I get it. Chiefs fans, I get it.
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But they've just become, you know— but I get it. I understand why you've become
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this. You, you expect— that's why, that's how I hate— why I hate 49ers
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fans. They act like they've won. They do do that. Oh my— I'm sorry,
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where, where are you? I wasn't, I wasn't sentient
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enough to remember. 1994 was a shit ton of a long time ago.
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They— but they act like Chiefs fans. So like, to me, it's like, if you're
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going to act like that, you better win. Thank you for the side quest there.
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Great side quest. Whoever asked the question, I didn't read who asked the question.
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That would have been Isaiah, actually. Oh, that was Isaiah. Okay, great job, Isaiah.
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All right. We're going to look ahead at the rest of week 3. Oh,
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I'm sorry. It was Julia. Julia Bell, that actually. Oh, it was Julia. Julia.
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Sorry, Julia. You get the credit. Thank you, Julia. We're going to look ahead at
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the rest of week 3 real quick. I put a few games in
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here, but if there's a game I left out that you want to talk about,
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feel free. Chargers at Bills is shaping up to be a bloodbath.
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Could be the nail in the coffin of including Justin Herbert in conversations with Josh
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Allen. And I'm not going to lie, fine by me. I hope Josh Allen
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has the game of his life. Bludgeons him. Me too. And it's
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not Justin Herbert's fault anymore. Not even a little. It really never has been.
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It really never has been. Like I said last show, he does not
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rank himself. But like, it's time. It's time
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something changed. It's time something happened. And as
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much as Josh Allen gets, you know, the kind of treatment that other
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quarterbacks don't, I actually don't think he's talked
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about in a way that is disproportionate with his talent. I think
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that other quarterbacks are talked about in ways that don't give them
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enough credit. Fair. It's, you know what I mean? Where it's like, if just
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talk about Lamar the way you talk about Josh Allen. Completely. Just talk about Jalen
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the way you talk about Josh Allen. And let's talk about all of them that
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way. And I'm good to go. No, I'm with you. Like, I've been very hard,
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especially in the last few weeks. Very hard on Justin Herbert. I've actually had a
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couple of videos that have done really, really well talking very harshly on
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Justin Herbert. Here's the thing. I don't dislike Justin Herbert even a little. I actually—
20:23
I mean, do you dislike him? He is kind of a dick. Okay, I can
20:26
see that. But I don't blame him. But I don't blame him. But here's the
20:29
story. My thing is, my issue with Justin Herbert, and it's the
20:33
same issue I've had with Josh Allen, it's actually the exact same
20:37
issue. It's just how they've skirted any semblance of criticism. Him.
20:41
It's not that they're— it's not that they're bad. I think Josh Allen is one
20:44
of, if not the best quarterback in the NFL. I personally think it's Lamar Jackson.
20:47
That being said, if you make your argument that Josh Allen— I'm not going to
20:50
sit here and say you're a fucking idiot. Josh Allen's fucking great. Not a crazy
20:54
take. Yeah, yeah, it's not like he's suggesting a bum. Not at all. But like,
20:57
when Josh Allen makes a really stupid mistake, there are 90 million people
21:01
out of the woodwork to defend it, right? And Justin Herbert's got nothing but that
21:05
for 7 straight years. And it's been driving me a little nuts. And I've heard
21:09
some other people like try to make the argument to me, who's like, well,
21:11
this is the same thing with you Raider fans and Derek Carr. Derek Carr
21:15
was never on a team that was earmarked to be a fucking
21:19
Super Bowl hopeful. They were never even earmarked to be fucking above last
21:24
place in their division his like entire tenure. Yeah, so you know better
21:28
than I. Derek Carr was given like a lot of leeway.
21:32
He was given some love. Absolutely. Derek Carr was also I think
21:36
disproportionately criticized. I thought he was disproportionately
21:40
criticized for stuff that wasn't necessary. He, he does
21:43
remind me a lot of like a Jared Goff. Very similar.
21:47
Very similar. And by the way, that's— I didn't— I'm not going to sit here
21:50
and say that Derek Carr was like the end-all be-all. By all means, he was
21:53
a solid quarterback on just really bad years of teams. Yeah.
21:57
Justin Herbert is a supposedly superb quarterback.
22:00
Yeah, on a really fucking good team, yet he never
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fucking wins. I'm sorry, that's my issue. I'm wondering when that criticism will actually
22:09
stick, and now it actually is. But this time I'm actually looking at like,
22:12
well, this one legitimately is not all his fault. And at what point do we
22:16
in any way, shape, or form— because we've moved out of— this is
22:21
a new development in the last couple years— we've moved out of talking about coaching
22:23
ever. I'm gonna bring it back. I'm bringing it back. That's why I'm talking about
22:26
Lafleur. When do we start talking about Jim Harbaugh? We need to,
22:30
because Jim Harbaugh is in
22:34
his tenure— was supposed to be the thing that got, that got Justin Herbert
22:39
over the hump. And I understood the hiring. I liked the hiring. It is
22:42
not working out. Jim Harbaugh is 11-6, 11-6, and now 0-2.
22:46
11-6 is good as hell. Very much. Uh, 11-6, is that right?
22:50
That's only 17 games. Yeah, there's 17 games. My brain
22:54
is getting used to 11-6. Oh. Look at you. It's finally happening because for
22:58
a while I was like 10-6 always. Look at you. You're only— you're already ready
23:01
for 18 games. You're already pre— I can't believe it. I'm a psycho.
23:04
Um, so 11-6 is, is a like— that's great. No,
23:09
no playoff wins, right? Whatever. Um, 0-3.
23:12
This is, this is the same coach that went to
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multiple NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl with Colin Kaepernick,
23:21
who apparently wasn't good enough to play in the NFL anymore after he Took
23:25
a knee. I'm tired. I'm— I think
23:29
that he's getting off scot-fucking-free. And our obsession
23:33
on both sides with talking about Justin Herbert has led us a bit astray
23:37
from the situation at the head coach position, which, by the way, does anyone remember
23:41
how the fuck he left Michigan? Oh, I definitely remember. Exactly. Under normal
23:45
circumstances, Pete Carroll-esque.
23:48
Indeed. Yes. The only difference is Pete Carroll actually
23:52
coached that team like without cheat— like there was no cheating allegations.
23:57
The allegation was that he fucking— that his star got paid.
24:02
Oh, what? No way. College football?
24:05
No. Now do I think that— do I think they won a title because they
24:09
cheated? No. I almost never think that's the case when people are talking about cheating.
24:12
I've talked to you about that. Like, I don't even think the Astros won a
24:15
title because of cheating. I just don't think that stuff. I get it. But I
24:19
do think that there's a— that you get in trouble for it for a reason.
24:22
And I don't like— Belichick should have gotten in trouble.
24:25
The Astros should have gotten in trouble. If you get caught, you get caught.
24:28
Sorry, it happens. But like, guys, where is that? So I'm—
24:32
I'm— I would like to see Jim Harbaugh face the music and getting
24:35
absolutely his ass handed to him by a 36-year-old head coach.
24:39
That'll do the trick. But you know how this is going to go. The first
24:41
head that's going to roll is going to be Mike— Mike McDaniel. I firmly believe
24:45
that. Poor Mike. Poor old Mike. Poor Mike. Nice guy.
24:49
Funny guy. I enjoy him. Don't know what his deal is.
24:53
I think he just needs to go back to— was he with Shanahan or was
24:56
he with me? He was with Shanahan. Yeah, I think he needs to go back.
24:58
Yeah. You know how Shanahan takes his guys back? Rehab. Yeah, I know.
25:02
You got to— you got to go full fucking Saleh. Yeah. Sometimes you
25:06
got to go the full Saleh, man. Yeah, you got to. By the way,
25:09
Saleh getting that first win last week, good for him. Uh, rooting for Saleh.
25:13
Always rooting for Robert Saleh. I hate that the only coaching jobs he keeps getting
25:16
is the worst teams in the NFL. I know, it's pretty shitty. I'm still rooting
25:18
for him. Um, but at least he's getting them, where we can't say that for
25:21
Brian Flores. We'll talk about that later. Oh boy. Ravens at Cowboys in Rio.
25:25
This is going to be in Brazil, as, um, as Lamar pointed out. He was
25:29
like— reporter asked him what he feels like, if he feels like the
25:32
Cowboys are still America's team. He was like, we're gonna be in Brazil. Yeah,
25:36
it's not America. But I will tell you this, as much as I fucking hate
25:40
that America's Team shit and the fucking Cowboys and their annoying-ass fans,
25:44
I hate to admit this because it just is factually true. So far,
25:48
this far in the season, this last game was the highest-rated
25:53
game in the NFL thus far this season. I mean, the Cowboy game this last
25:56
weekend. I think that something that we, we can't lie
26:00
about is that Jerry Jones built an absolute
26:04
monster of a brand. He did. That is inarguable.
26:08
I give the same credit to Jerry Buss. I give the same
26:12
credit to all of these dudes who— but I mean,
26:16
are, you know, Steinbrenner. Like, these are— when you
26:19
combine, uh, a dynasty with very,
26:23
very good marketing, this is what you get. Make no mistake. And I hate Jerry
26:26
Jones, but fuck, I'm not gonna say he didn't do it, right? So he did.
26:29
So I will say this. This is a— the Dak versus
26:32
Lamar thing is very big for football heads because those
26:36
were the 2 MVP candidates in 2023
26:40
when Lamar won his, his second MVP. There are a lot of people who thought
26:44
it should have gone to Dak Prescott, who had bigger touchdown numbers and, you know,
26:47
whatever passing. Yeah, right.
26:50
Because we don't count rushing. God forbid Lamar led his
26:53
team in rushing that year. Did not— not quarterbacks,
26:57
like, not— he led his whole team. Yes. Yeah. Uh,
27:00
so I was still pro Lamar in that, but Dak is, um, an excellent
27:04
quarterback that absolutely did have an MVP-caliber season. And this is a, you know,
27:07
so it's a little bit of a contentious thing between Cowboys and Ravens fans.
27:10
So I like that under— that underpinning of it. Um, and we
27:15
got 2 dueling storylines. Can the Ravens bounce back, and can
27:19
the Cowboys defense stop the bleeding? Because we've seen what the Ravens offense can
27:23
look like with Lamar at any given moment. Do we have notice
27:26
on Zay Flowers' health? Not that I've seen yet.
27:29
Obviously, that makes a big difference. It does. Is he still questionable? Was he questionable
27:33
or is he out? That's the thing. I thought he was still going— was still
27:37
potentially playing this. I thought so too. Maybe I'm off, but I have not heard
27:39
or seen anything. So hard to keep up on with all these injuries. It's crazy.
27:43
But you saw about Bosa today, right? What? Oh, Nick Bosa is probably
27:47
out for the year. Oh, no. Poor guy. That's really—
27:51
hearing these things about the Bosa is really awful. So bad. That— no,
27:54
that's so awful. I hate this. I'm really sad to hear
27:58
that. I really don't root for injuries. I hate that poor guy.
28:01
That happened. Um, so, uh,
28:05
what do you think? I, I'm— I very much feel like these overseas—
28:09
or overseas, I mean, they're not going overseas— these other,
28:13
other country, other time zone ass games, um, are a little
28:17
bit difficult to predict. You just don't know. It's, it's very much like Who traveled
28:20
better, who's in, you know, just who's in a better headspace kind of thing.
28:23
I think they're very, very mental. I think that's why the Niners kicked the fuck
28:25
out of the Rams. And they did a mental thing. I think I'm getting—
28:30
I've officially already— we're in week 3. I've already grown tired of every international game.
28:34
I understand what we're doing it, but I've just— I've had enough of it.
28:36
The gimmick is— yeah, is beyond dead to me at this point.
28:40
But yeah, listen, I love— I don't love it either. I get it. Money.
28:43
You got to do it for money. Yeah. I'm leaning towards the Ravens. They're just
28:47
a flat out better team. That being said, you're not wrong. There's such a weird
28:51
aspect of these international games where you just can't predict them. Yeah, but I got
28:54
to say, I think, I think Baltimore is going to be feeling a little pressure
28:57
if they drop this game, go 1-2 to start the season. It's Bad News Bears.
28:59
Yeah, that'll be Bad News Bears. I also— it also
29:04
depends on like what unit looks— does— is it the defense that falls apart?
29:07
Is it the offense? Like, what the fuck is going on? But I
29:10
do expect— I do expect Lamar to look a little bit better. Same,
29:13
same, same. Rams at Broncos is elite offense versus elite defense.
29:18
I love that shit. That's my favorite shit in the world is when you have
29:20
one elite unit going up against another elite unit. Broncos defense really elite.
29:24
Oh, absolutely. Really? Yes. They haven't been the first 2 games. Yes. Last week.
29:28
Last week in the second half they were. Yes. It's just a matter of like,
29:32
like that. Can this personnel be elite
29:36
when they're— because like the Rams offense wasn't elite in fucking week 1 either.
29:39
Oh God, no. They're like, you know what I mean? Like, but when we talk
29:41
about these, these units at their best, Um, these players and the matchups at their
29:45
best, what does it look like? What is the best unit on each team?
29:48
Um, no, the Broncos defense is legit. Like, I, I still believe
29:52
in them. I— shit happens off the top of a season,
29:55
but that personnel is nuts. I love them. Um,
29:58
and I, and I hate their head coach, and we'll talk about it later,
30:00
but I love the— I love the Broncos defense. Um, but I would
30:04
like to see the Rams perform against a good defense. So would I. So interested
30:08
in that. Um, buddy, Vikings.
30:11
Vikings at Bucs. Kyler. Kyler's back, baby. I'm— dude,
30:15
I'm fired up for this. I want to see it. I want to see a
30:18
full fucking game of Kyler Murray in this system. And I, I'm a believer.
30:21
I'm a full-on believer. The end. The fucking end. I cannot wait to see
30:25
what he does. My fantasy team are all in on him. Um, I love this
30:28
game because number one, uh, it is Kyler's back, but it's the
30:32
Scramble Bowl because Kyler— both Kyler and Baker run
30:36
with the ball like little assholes. Like, just— they just fucking
30:40
waved that thing around. Now, it's one thing to wave it around if you're 6'5,
30:44
240, Josh Allen. Those tiny little idiots run
30:48
around with that ball like morons. Scramble Bowl,
30:52
excited to see it. Um, excited to see what,
30:55
uh, if— because Baker's— Baker's going up on,
30:59
on being like 0-3, right? Is that because they Again,
31:03
and now he has to go up against Brian Flores's defense. You earned your
31:07
fucking contract, my guy. Do something. Do something. You don't even have to win the
31:11
game. Just do something. Do something. So I'm intrigued. What do you think about Raiders
31:15
at Saints? I'm so excited. I do have the Raiders in this game, believe it
31:17
or not. But knowing full well how good the Saints have been and how great
31:20
Tyler Shook has been in New Orleans— in New Orleans. But it's a surprising—
31:25
in Las Vegas, I'd feel a little better. Here's the thing. It's, it's a relatively
31:29
even spread. Last I checked, it was about 3.5 points, which is, you know,
31:32
basically giving it to the home team. The, the home game— the home team gets
31:36
3 points, always gets 3 points. So they're giving them a slight little edge,
31:38
slight little edge. And I'm just excited to watch the game. Brock Bowers is making
31:42
his debut. The reason why I'm thinking— is he definitely? Because he's still listed
31:45
as questionable. That's what they said. They said he's making his debut this weekend.
31:48
I'm very excited for that. And the reason why is because Kirk Cousins utilizes
31:51
tight ends better than any other quarterback in the NFL for the last
31:55
10 years. I'm really looking forward to seeing what it's going to look like with
31:58
Kirk Cousins with those other weapons And the fact that he has arguably the best
32:02
tight end in the game with him right now. I, I don't know what it's
32:05
gonna be. I think he utilizes tight ends better than anybody. He does. The numbers
32:09
stated he utilizes tight ends. We're talking about efficiency numbers or like total like
32:13
targeting usage? Both, actually. Usage total? He's exceedingly efficient
32:17
with tight ends. He loves leaning on them. Yeah, I don't
32:21
know though. Like, I'm thinking, so what is he— he was with TJ Hockenson or
32:25
whoever. Was that— that might help. That might help quite a bit. No, I'm not
32:28
But I'm like, I'm trying to think, like, I'm trying to remember. I'm like,
32:31
this is a dude who played with Justin Jefferson for a little— like, are we
32:34
fucking serious? Like, I don't know if that's really— well, we'll see. We'll see.
32:38
He's got Brock Bowers and he's got other— and dude, he's got tools that I
32:41
didn't even fuck— Cody White is apparently one of the best fucking wide receivers in
32:44
the game right now. You really never know. Uh, by the way, Zay Flowers is
32:47
questionable. Okay, so just— I just want to make sure that we put that on
32:50
record on our show so people listening aren't like, these guys don't give us any
32:53
information. Not at all. But Tanya, do me a favor. I'm a Raider fan.
32:55
Talk to me Talk to me. Like, I want, I want to fucking— I want
32:59
to like black out my entire fandom and I want to just be
33:03
told facts. I know my facts are coming through a little bit of rose-colored lenses
33:07
because we're 2-0 and I don't understand this world. I think the litmus
33:11
test— so my— the— what I wrote in the notes was that I feel
33:15
like this is a litmus test. This— when you play the Saints, it's a litmus
33:18
test for your defense. Uh, both the Lions And
33:22
the Ravens came in, I think, pretty confidently that they could handle
33:26
Tyler Shook and that offense. And neither one could.
33:30
Didn't matter when it was. And it's usually later in the game.
33:34
And so for me,
33:37
Kirk Cousins can play great. Brock Bowers can look like if he's playing well,
33:41
he can— or playing and he can look great. Like all of that can be
33:44
looking great because I don't really think that— I thought
33:47
Lamar looked amazing for most of the game the other day. I thought that like
33:52
Jared Goff and, and, and the Lions offense was pretty great
33:56
against that team. And then all of a sudden things start to turn. And I
34:00
do think that it's time for a team to say we're going
34:04
to take Tyler Shuck and Chris Olave and this offense late in games a little
34:08
bit more seriously. If they can do that,
34:11
I think it's a great test for your new coach. You know, like this
34:15
is I love, I love that you're turning around this offense.
34:18
A little offensive genius. I want to see what you can do to
34:22
this, to this offense at home late in a game
34:25
that clearly doesn't give a fuck. Because I don't think Tyler Shuck is
34:29
the most, uh, talented quarterback in the league, but he also is incredibly
34:33
composed at the end of games. I've noticed. So I think they can absolutely
34:36
win it. Am I— would I bet on them? I'm not
34:40
gonna. No, no, no. I honestly just want to enjoy this game. I want to
34:44
see— I'm agreeing with you on the litmus test on what it could be.
34:46
Because I would like to see how your defense— if maybe, if maybe
34:50
the Raiders defense— because like realistically this isn't a playoff team,
34:53
but I'd like to see if they've watched some film and learned some things from
34:56
the last 2 games. Me too. And I, I will say, I, I had— I'm
34:59
trying to think who I spoke to the other day, but they were talking to
35:02
me about the Raiders clubhouse and they just said— I, I don't know what else
35:05
to say— it actually is legitimately different. There is a different atmosphere.
35:08
By the way, right now Fernando Mendoza I saw a profile from my
35:12
mutual on TikTok. Um, what is— oh
35:16
my God, Real Takes. What is his fucking name? Uh, I, I need to remember
35:20
his name. He's great and he's been mutual, but he did a video about how,
35:23
um, Fernando Mendoza is actually promoting like financial awareness.
35:27
Yeah, he's doing it. He's doing a whole video, a whole campaign on that rather
35:30
than like taking a Calci ad. I think it was called like Fernando on Finances
35:34
or something like that. Yeah, which I think is cool. It's really cool.
35:37
Especially when we have this influx of stars who are taking these like prediction market,
35:41
you know, whatever relationship ads. He also did a commercial that I have
35:45
to say really made me laugh. I have to
35:49
say, I think— I mean, listen, I'm open to being a Mendoza head. I,
35:52
first of all, I do genuinely love him and his relationship
35:56
with his family. So it's funny you say that. There is a whole video about
35:58
him saying, yeah, Vegas changes you. You get real wild
36:02
out here. And it shows. And he's like talking to a guy. They're sitting in
36:05
like a high-rise in Vegas, like, It's 9 p.m. and I haven't even called my
36:08
mom yet. Okay. And the guy looks at him, he's like, he just goes like,
36:12
man, you really have changed. He's like, I really should call her though. He gets
36:15
out the phone like, this is the greatest commercial. Do I fucking love him?
36:18
No, I think I love him. He's so cute. That's really
36:23
cute. It's such a good commercial. Oh, that's adorable. Oh, this guy's the
36:27
best. All right, closing this out. Patriots at Jags.
36:30
It's sort of a which high-ceiling white quarterback will overcome unimpressive performances.
36:34
Dude, your quarterback sucks. Yeah, but Trevor Lawrence did not look good last week.
36:38
He did not. After a great week 1, which against a bad team,
36:41
and we gave it a grain of salt, but I was like, okay, he did
36:44
his job. Oh, not so much in week 2.
36:47
Can Patriots— can the Patriots defense continue to carry if it's a good Trevor Lawrence
36:51
day? That's my question is like, it looks like Trevor Lawrence is susceptible
36:55
to any sort of like real defensive pressure.
36:59
What do we find out about him? I think the same thing is true for
37:02
Drake Maye. So both of these, I don't think Trevor Lawrence is
37:06
on the same level of fraud watch that Drake Maye is, but Trevor Lawrence also
37:09
didn't hit like MVP-level heights ever in his career, and Drake Maye did last year.
37:13
So I'm just like, as a Patriots fan,
37:17
I do think this team is still relying on the defense until
37:21
I see something better from Drake. And it
37:25
would not shock me at all if they lost to the Jaguars. Me neither.
37:29
Uh, also that, but that's more— that has less to do with, with, with Trevor
37:32
Lawrence. It's my belief now, which I didn't have initially, that Liam
37:37
Cohen's done a real fucking good job there. I don't want to talk about how
37:40
wrong I was about Liam. Yeah, I was wrong about it too. I don't like
37:43
it. I don't like being wrong. I'm very— dude, I think about that fucking press
37:47
conference all the time. It was like the Adam Gase press conference. Exactly. Thank you.
37:51
Those are the only 2 press conferences I've ever thought about after the fact.
37:53
The Adam Gase, just the Yeah, and Duval,
37:59
the cokehead press conference. That was fucking
38:02
wild, that press conference. And then Duval,
38:06
fucking terrifying. And then it turned out he was kind of awesome, and then he's
38:10
been great. Sucks Gase wasn't. Um,
38:13
final, uh, we, we were supposed to have an absolute banger, Cody. We were
38:17
promised a banger with Eagles-Bears. Yeah, but instead we're gonna get
38:21
Case Keenum. I am. Now that's not to say that this can't be an interesting
38:24
matchup because I still, you know, the Bears defense has
38:28
got to get their shit together. Yes, they've got to get their shit together.
38:31
This is a, this is a, an historically defensive team.
38:34
I appreciate that Ben Johnson is an offensive genius at the moment,
38:38
but like, this has got to fuck— they've got to step up. Yeah,
38:42
the Eagles offense is vulnerable. Their offensive line is vulnerable.
38:45
They're going up against a quarterback who's ice cold. He's never out until he's out.
38:50
So I still can see an avenue
38:54
for this game to be interesting. But I, I am furious,
38:59
furious that we are not getting Caleb. Yeah, we got robbed.
39:03
I'm fucking furious. Got fucking robbed. This is bullshit. It's all right. We're going to
39:07
fucking bang her and get Caleb back like probably in a week or two.
39:10
I'm really happy that he's okay. Me too. But like, by the way,
39:13
are you proud of me for sending you a funny meme? I was very proud.
39:17
That one was good. I will say it was very funny. That one was good.
39:20
Again, I disagree with the memes, but they are funny.
39:23
No, they have made me laugh. I sent Cody a meme that was Caleb waving
39:27
from the cart and it said, I've seen this before. He's going to come back
39:31
next week and cash in Money in the Bank. Yep. That made me laugh.
39:34
I'm like, that's funny shit. Which— that's— it's harmless. That's a harmless joke. And I
39:38
like that. All right. We've talked some NFL. We previewed Week 3.
39:42
Let's go over to baseball for a second. Let's do it.
39:45
Headline number 3 is about how 60
39:48
games could become MLB's most important number in
39:52
the potential lockout. Yeah. MLB owners are virtually certain to
39:57
lock out the players in early December when the sport's current labor deal expires.
40:01
No one knows whether a shutdown will shorten the sport's regular season,
40:04
but if it does, 60 games, roughly the end of May by
40:08
the current MLB schedule, will perhaps be the most crucial leverage point. If at
40:12
least 60 games are wiped out in 2027, most of the league's national
40:16
broadcast contracts would extend another year through 2029.
40:21
That means that the big payday owners expect from new national TV rights deals
40:25
could wind up delayed by a lockout. So the NBA 2
40:29
years ago set up a carrot for MLB to chase when
40:33
it renegotiated its national packages and landed in the average
40:37
of $7 billion a year, more than double what the MLB is currently bringing in.
40:40
The NFL averages more than $11 billion per season. But there's a silver lining for
40:44
the owners, even if no pitches are thrown in 2027. They still get paid.
40:49
Most of the current national contracts, which total more than $2 billion annually,
40:53
call for the league's partners to pay MLB in 2027, even if
40:57
no games are played, the people briefed on the agreement said. This means the
41:00
owners would still be guaranteed to collect around 17% of their overall $12 billion-plus
41:04
in revenue. So, oh, this is an absolute
41:09
shitshow. But the reality is that 60 missed games
41:12
is the deadline And by the way, this was detailed by Evan Drelich and
41:16
Andrew Marchand of The Athletic. So give them credit where credit
41:19
is due. Both are very good at what they do. Very good. And 60 games
41:23
means we are now entering the territory of having to extend the TV deal,
41:26
which means they miss out on a lot of money on a new deal that
41:29
is worth a lot more money. Right. That's just the baseline what
41:33
we're looking at. Yeah. No games played
41:37
and the owners still make their money. Amazing, isn't it? Now the interesting
41:40
part is if there's no CBA, the players
41:45
don't make money from that contract. I don't believe so.
41:49
So that's where— listen, this is, this is where shit
41:53
gets real dark real fast. I'm confused.
41:57
The way I'm getting it now, the way I'm seeing it now, it's basically this
42:00
is a more or less of like a poison pill. It's, it's,
42:04
it's the final solution for MLB owners. Yeah,
42:07
this is like the thing that they can do to break the union.
42:11
The union better stand strong because it's not going to be hard to get the
42:14
young guys and the less paid guys really, really fucking worried
42:18
and quaking in their boots. Because I know what this is going to turn into.
42:21
It's going to turn into lockout for a while. We're going
42:25
to start renegotiating. They're going to want a salary cap. And then to mitigate the
42:28
season and everything else, they're going to cut more minor
42:32
league leagues out and they're going to streamline the minor league system
42:36
into much less jobs, we're going to lose like another 50,000
42:40
jobs in baseball. I'm not just talking on-field personnel,
42:43
I'm talking people that work in ticketing, I'm talking about people that work in front
42:46
offices, I'm talking about people who work in sales, I'm talking about everybody
42:50
in all these small towns throughout the United States that literally some
42:53
of these teams are like those cities' fucking economy
42:58
will be completely decimated. I hate
43:02
this so fucking much. I don't
43:06
know what else to say. So bad. It is just greed upon greed
43:11
upon greed. And they are banking on you, the fans, to be as stupid
43:15
as possible and believe them when they say it's the
43:19
players' fault. That is what they're banking on. They're banking on you being an idiot.
43:23
Don't be an idiot, please. That's all I can say. Just for the love of
43:26
God, see what is happening right in front of you. Please Google how much a
43:29
billion dollars is. Please Google how much fucking $8 billion is.
43:33
Google how much the Angels, who are about to lose 100 games,
43:37
um, they just sold for $4 billion.
43:39
Google how much that is. Just learn.
43:43
Just learn basic numbers, and I think you're gonna come to the
43:48
correct solution. So this, you know, we've talked
43:52
about this. It is really what it's coming down to is their
43:55
desire for to institute a salary cap. Desperate. If you have ever— all you guys
43:59
have to do is, is Google the regulars talking about the salary cap. It's out
44:02
there, I promise you. Just Google Cody and I's names, salary cap. It's out there.
44:06
I'm not gonna go back through it, but, but trust me, we're going to
44:10
be talking about it probably quite a bit. Yeah, over the next 6 months,
44:13
once these negotiations begin, we're gonna— we will do even
44:17
deeper dives into exactly what this would mean,
44:20
what a salary cap would mean. All of the ramifications.
44:24
The reality is that in almost every CBA
44:28
negotiation, in when we're talking about these things,
44:31
the owners have
44:35
a stopgap. They have a safety net built in
44:39
to protect them during a lockout.
44:43
That is in every— like,
44:47
that is sort of this universal understanding that if a lockout is going to occur,
44:50
is because owners have developed a safety net. They will
44:54
not take— these motherfuckers won't pay another percentage
44:59
in taxes. They hate not
45:02
losing money. They hate the idea of not gaining more money.
45:06
They don't just enter these negotiations without preventative
45:12
measures. And those are not always legal.
45:15
Doesn't mean they're going to get in trouble for them. But they're not always legal.
45:19
And we've talked about that with the NFL. And circumventing
45:23
these rules always sounds like it's like fully above board. It'll be,
45:26
it'll be reported as if it's above board.
45:30
Not always. Nope. So we'll keep an eye on that.
45:34
The salary cap is in the news. Yes, it is. The NBA specifically.
45:38
Wow. They do have a salary cap. And it's interesting how certain teams have
45:41
recently circumvented that salary cap.
45:44
And Major League Baseball doesn't seem like that could be a
45:47
problem. Oh, there's also the issues of, you know, tanking and,
45:51
and the, the issues of players actually not even
45:54
playing because they're load managing for some reason and yada, yada, yada. There's just all
45:58
these problems in the salary-capped league that
46:02
aren't in the non-salary-capped league, which is super fascinating.
46:05
Interesting. Headline number 4, Draymond Green Calls
46:10
to get rid of the salary cap after Kawhi Leonard's circumvention scandal.
46:13
Now, one thing you've really never seen in Major League Baseball is someone getting paid
46:18
under the table for some shady-ass shit because they don't got to do it.
46:21
They don't need to. Don't need to. They can just say, we're paying, we're paying,
46:25
we're paying Shohei $1 billion over the next 100 years.
46:28
Yes. Doesn't matter. Can happen. Okay, so Draymond
46:32
Green, you know, as soon as I read this headline, I was like, oh,
46:35
this is some Tanya and Cody-ass shit right here. Like, this is—
46:39
unfortunately, I know we're with Draymond. So in an interview with
46:42
Front Office Sports, Green called on the NBA to get rid of the salary cap
46:45
as a whole to avoid these sorts of scandals in the future. When talking
46:49
about Kawhi Leonard, when you look at teams being sold for $12.5
46:53
billion and athletes can't participate in that upside that athletes
46:58
are driving, I think that the salary cap is irrelevant, he said. I think
47:01
get rid of the salary cap as a whole and we won't have these types
47:04
of things. Green flipped the debate around the— on the Clippers,
47:08
around the Clippers on its head, arguing that if uber-wealthy owners like
47:11
the Clippers' Steve Ballmer believe someone on their team is worth as much as
47:15
he managed to compensate Leonard, they should be allowed to. Yeah.
47:19
Ultimately, the circumvention was because that guy was worth more than
47:23
they could pay. So if he's worth more than they could pay, why can't
47:27
he make that? I don't know if anyone's ever seen Elon Musk's
47:32
compensation package from Tesla, but it's absurd. But guess what? If he can negotiate it,
47:35
he can get it. So why in sports can we possibly
47:39
negotiate something but it's a problem? These are the best
47:42
business owners in the world. They know how to negotiate. These are some of the
47:45
best businesses, minds, businessmen, businesswomen. Now, I won't agree with that, but that's,
47:49
that's neither here nor there. In order to become that, you have to know how
47:52
to negotiate. So they negotiate without a salary cap stopping the person who they're negotiating
47:56
I think the salary cap as a whole is doing the league a disservice.
47:59
So essentially what Draymond Green just laid out is that the business
48:03
model of professional sports with salary caps is, is anti-capitalist.
48:07
And we have— have we not been ringing this fucking bell
48:11
on this show repeatedly over and over and over again for 7 months?
48:17
I hate it when I'm completely 100% agreeing with Draymond Green,
48:20
but fucking Draymond nails this shit. I don't know what else to tell you other
48:23
than it's literally right in front of all of you. In what
48:28
other sector are you allowed to say like, sorry, we can't—
48:32
Tanya, the rules are that we can't pay you more money. Tanya, fuck every
48:36
other sector. Just take the sectors that these exact people
48:39
come from. Every owner comes from fucking hedge fund things,
48:43
public money over here, money over billions of dollars. Everyone that
48:47
owns a team, with the exception of the ones that have inherited their teams,
48:50
They all come from some sort of capitalist system that they were able to take
48:53
massive advantage of and probably break a lot of rules to
48:56
get there. No one became a billionaire by becoming the nicest guy in the
49:00
fucking world. They don't exist. Every billionaire is fucking borderline
49:04
deranged and crazy and usually breaking a decent amount
49:09
of laws to get their billions. But once you get to a certain price,
49:12
though, I can't stress this enough. That's the other thing about people with so much
49:15
money. When you have so much money, you don't actually
49:19
have to make money anymore. Your money makes money. That's how it works.
49:23
You get to a certain threshold of money, you never have to worry about making
49:27
a dime. Interest. That's all you're doing. Yeah. So now you
49:30
buy a franchise and all of a sudden that capitalist system that you
49:34
fucking benefit from no longer is something that you agree
49:38
with. Boy, I can't afford this. Fuck you.
49:42
No, he's— I mean, Draymond's point about the Lakers is,
49:46
is crazy. It's crazy true. And like, we've never— you and
49:50
I have never even put it that bluntly, which is like, so, so you just
49:54
sold a basketball team for $12.5 billion? Yes.
49:57
Which is wildly overvalued. No one's asking any questions. No one's putting a
50:01
cap on how much money you can make by selling that team. It is clearly—
50:05
that's clearly insane that your basketball franchise that did not win a
50:09
title in a year went from, what, $10 billion, which was overpriced,
50:13
to $12.5 billion. By the way, before it was sold for $10 billion, it was
50:16
valued— I'm not kidding— valued like 2 weeks
50:20
before it at $7.5 billion, which made sense because they valued
50:24
it at the comparison to the Celtics, which, which had sold for $6.5 billion.
50:28
Yep. And so they were like, okay, if Celtics are $6.5 billion, Los Angeles market
50:32
makes sense, right? Like, that made sense. So Draymond's It's—
50:36
that's correct. Completely. Like that. If you're saying
50:40
that it's $12.5 million, what you're saying is that Luka
50:44
improved your franchise value that much. That's what you're saying. That's,
50:47
that's the only thing you can be saying because it wasn't a title. It wasn't
50:51
your business. It wasn't like some sort of business investment. It wasn't. It's Luka.
50:54
By the way, you lost LeBron James and somehow your team became $2.5
50:58
billion more valuable. So you're telling me it has to be? So now
51:02
if you want to pay Luka $1 billion,
51:05
you should be able to pay Luka $1 billion and he should be able to
51:08
ask for it. Should he not? Yeah. Should he not? Because you
51:12
just fucking told me Luka increased the value of your team that much.
51:16
Sorry, I don't know what to say other than you guys can increase the
51:20
valuations of all these things and make all this money, but the players can't.
51:23
I don't know what to tell you other than that is as evil as humanly
51:27
possible. And I understand the fans going like, well, I don't know who to root
51:29
for, the millionaires or the billionaires. The fucking millionaires,
51:33
idiot. The workforce. It doesn't matter that they're millionaires.
51:37
They are still a workforce. They're the workforce. And by the way, a lot of
51:39
them still aren't millionaires. There's like a bunch of dudes who will play in the
51:42
NBA who are on like veteran minimum contracts or,
51:47
or like 10-day— like, dude, I played in Major League Baseball.
51:50
I never came close to any semblance of that type of money. No.
51:54
Like, this is, this is an absolute joke. And so I thought
51:57
it was really interesting on the back of the whole, like,
52:01
trying to institute a salary cap is Draymond Green pointing out that
52:05
the salary cap is causing the richest men in the world
52:08
to get in trouble for, for salary
52:12
fraud. Yeah. Like, it's so funny because it's
52:16
like these two things existing. MLB's like, salary cap will save us. Steve Ballmer,
52:20
one of the richest people in the world, is getting fucking fined and
52:23
sanctioned because he can't work within these fucking pay because he can't work.
52:27
But he, but he has to be in that situation because The rest of
52:30
the poor owners— Steve Ballmer would probably be happy
52:34
to work in a non-salary cap league. Yeah. Who doesn't want
52:38
that are whoever's gonna buy the— whoever owns the shit
52:43
fuck rest of the teams, private equity dudes who all chipped in,
52:46
all 39 of them, to buy the fucking like
52:51
Memphis Grizzlies or whatever, right? Like, it's like, it's always some— those are the people
52:55
who don't want to have to deal with that. Steve Ballmer could win it.
52:58
Steve Ballmer could pay the— he could build the
53:03
U.S. Olympic team and pay them. Yeah.
53:07
Cool. I want to— I would like to see it. So would I.
53:11
I would like to fucking see it. Me too. Let Anthony
53:14
Edwards and Luka Dončić and all
53:18
these motherfuckers all play on the same team, all making half a billion
53:22
dollars and on contracts, I'm in. Because you
53:26
know what that gives us? It gives us Major League Baseball, where there's been plenty
53:29
of parity, by the way. By the fucking way. Now we are running
53:33
out of billionaires because they all own everything, all like 10 of them.
53:38
They'll have to figure that out. Yes, they will. Uh, we have
53:41
a sort of hybrid story for our final headline, which is we're going to talk
53:45
about the WNBA bracket and then, uh, the playoff bracket, but we're gonna We're gonna
53:49
transition into Media Corner in the middle of it. Oh, I love that. Fun.
53:52
Very fun, cool thing I'm doing. That's so cool. I'm a fucking media maverick
53:56
trying new things. I'm a media maverick, my guy. Let's do it.
54:00
Uh, the WNBA bracket is set. Um, I know
54:04
that you don't get to talk a lot of WNBA, which means that it doesn't—
54:07
you can't often prioritize it in your viewing and all that stuff. Um,
54:11
that's not your fault. You would love to, and I would because I love the
54:14
fucking W. Yeah. Um, so we're gonna do it here. And I
54:18
had the pleasure of— I have the pleasure of being married to an absolute
54:22
motherfucking real one who stopped our
54:26
show in the middle of what we were watching last night and was like,
54:28
NECA's retirement thing's happening, like, we gotta watch. And I was like,
54:31
thank you for keeping an eye on that because I would have hated to miss
54:34
that. But he's the— he's the real one in my fucking
54:39
household. Love that. So he made sure we got to see Nneka's retirement.
54:44
And the W just has like, they just got some real
54:49
good shit going. Nneka Ogwumike, the scoring leader
54:53
in the history of the LA Sparks, an iconic franchise. She retired.
54:57
Her very famous, very beautiful, very talented sister,
55:01
Shanae, wrote a retirement tribute
55:05
and, you know, voiced over retirement tribute package for
55:09
her. That was probably one of the greatest retirement packages, tributes I've ever
55:13
seen in my life. Uh, this league is just shining as bright
55:17
as anything I've seen, and a lot of it is because Nneka, she is from
55:21
Los Angeles. She's a Los Angeles Sparks legend, or she's from Los Angeles Sparks and
55:24
she's a Sparks legend. And so we cannot be people talking about the W without
55:28
talking about that the day after. Um, I— if you have not seen it
55:32
and I know you haven't, go at the airport. Look, I only saw parts
55:36
of it. I didn't see the whole thing. At the airport, bring it up,
55:38
bring it up on YouTube. I'm sure it's on there. Watch the whole thing.
55:40
You will cry at the airport. Okay. It's so fucking good. Can't wait.
55:43
It's so good. Having said that,
55:47
playoff bracket. The big
55:50
stories coming out of this playoff bracket are that Caitlin Clark,
55:54
Kelsey Mitchell, Leah Boston, the big 3 of the Fever, are facing the big
55:58
3 of the Las Vegas Aces.
56:03
Obviously our, our GOAT, our MVP, our obvious A'ja Wilson,
56:07
but also Jackie Young and Chelsea Gray. It's a Big 3 versus Big 3 situation.
56:12
Uh, there's a lot of people who think, uh, that the Caitlin Clark versus
56:16
A'ja Wilson thing is somehow a thing.
56:20
Nope. I get that, like, in the world of
56:23
young young stars versus like established MVP
56:27
stars, like, sure, maybe. It's so funny because we don't really do this in the
56:31
NBA. So like, I'm new to this. Like, I'm new to this. Not true to
56:34
this, you know? Like, I don't know what's happening here because in
56:39
the, in the NBA, we don't do that thing where we're like, oh, Anthony Edwards
56:43
is going to crush LeBron. Like, we don't— we, we don't
56:47
do that. No. So it is a fascinating
56:51
matchup. Uh, we got the big,
56:54
the big thing that I'm noticing, and I'm not gonna lie,
56:58
I'm a Minnesota Lynx fan. They're playing the Liberty. I hope the Lynx make it
57:02
through, but they, they're looking a little, they're looking a little bit vulnerable.
57:05
But my second favorite team is the Atlanta Dream because my first favorite player is
57:09
on the Atlanta Dream. Have you heard of her? It's Angel Reese. She's not bad.
57:12
Okay, here's the thing. Angel Reese got a pretty good draw. They got a— the
57:15
whole team got a pretty good— Ron Howard, one of the best 3-point shooters in
57:18
the league, absolutely fucking legendary. She— they're going up against the Washington Mystics.
57:24
They're on the opposite side of the bracket from
57:28
Caitlin Clark. Now, do I want Caitlin Clark
57:33
and the Fever to make a final? Not particularly. I really like
57:37
Dallas. I really like the Aces. I'd love for
57:41
one of those teams to make it through. Am I a chaos agent who if
57:46
the Dream were to make the final, which they very much could because they're fucking
57:49
fire right now,
57:53
that would hate to see the Fever
57:57
versus the Dream. I mean, it would if we're looking— if
58:02
our goal is to get the very best ratings humanly possible.
58:05
It's not our goal. That's not necessarily our goal. But if that was our goal,
58:08
it's just my goal to see if that was our goal happen
58:12
there. That would be the case. No, I will. That would crush. I will accept.
58:16
Angel Reese winning a title before Caitlin Clark. And currently this
58:20
bracket is making that a lot easier to potentially happen.
58:23
Not saying that the Fever can't beat the Aces, but I'll tell you right now,
58:26
if the Fever beat the Aces, it will not be because of Caitlin Clark.
58:29
It will be because of their MVP, the best player on their team, Kelsey Mitchell.
58:33
More importantly, this is where we tie it into
58:37
Media Corner. So we're sort of moving into Media Corner now, which is that per
58:41
Front Office Sports, the league drew 3.79
58:46
million fans across 330 games, which is a 20.5%
58:52
increase from last season. The total attendance
58:56
figure is boosted by the addition of 2 expansion teams,
58:59
though the numbers still saw a marginal 3% growth of the,
59:03
uh, net of the Toronto Tempo and the Portland Fire. So the league averaged
59:07
11,474 fans this year, also a record and
59:11
a 5% increase from last season. The Dream saw the biggest one-year increase.
59:15
Angel Reese, have you ever— yes, I heard her averaging nearly 7,000
59:19
fans this year, which is, you know, we're talking about massive 55%
59:23
bumps. Caitlin Clark-led Indiana Fever remain the league's biggest draw
59:27
for opposing fans as the team averaged 15,116
59:30
fans from the road. Paige Bueckers and the Dallas Wings were second. So we
59:35
are looking at a playoffs that is going to break records. Of course,
59:39
when you and I were talking about this CBA being built or being
59:43
negotiated, there was a lot of people who were like, I don't know about
59:47
this kind of money. I don't know if this is going to— oh, there's this
59:50
bubble's going to burst. Yeah, there was a lot of these like,
59:54
I can't believe anyone thinks this should expand. What idiots.
59:58
You were saying? Starting to look like you
1:00:01
were saying it's starting to look like. And by the way, Juju Watkins is
1:00:05
coming. I don't mean to be that guy, but did we see one of those
1:00:08
guys last weekend at at the Rose Bowl with that take?
1:00:13
What? I believe we saw somebody at the Rose Bowl last, last week. Oh my
1:00:17
God, I totally forgot.
1:00:22
We definitely saw Bill Simmons. Definitely saw Bill Simmons at the Rose Bowl, and he
1:00:25
definitely had this take. Don't look now, but I'm pretty sure
1:00:30
he saw, uh, saw us and probably is not happy. Hate that for us.
1:00:33
Oh, poor guy. Hate that for us. No, but like that, I mean, truly,
1:00:36
like This is— this shit's fucking not turning back. No,
1:00:40
it never was. And it never— like, that's not how these things work. No,
1:00:43
it's growing. I thought it was going to work differently for the women than it
1:00:45
would for any other league. That's not how this works. So, um,
1:00:48
love that. And there's so many opportunities
1:00:52
for this. I, I think no matter what, the Finals are going to gain crazy
1:00:55
ratings. But we got Angel Reese
1:00:59
in the playoffs for the first time. We got Caitlin Clark back in the playoffs.
1:01:02
We got Kelsey Mitchell, who's a fucking MVP candidate. We've got Olivia Miles,
1:01:06
who's an MVP candidate and a rookie. We've got the fucking big 3 of the
1:01:09
Aces who are the fucking GOATs right now. Good shit. And I just— we had
1:01:13
to make sure that we shouted that out. And, um, you know,
1:01:17
keep pushing, keep pushing, keep trying. Go W! I'm looking forward to it. Let's get
1:01:21
it going. Uh, we got a media corner that's, that's bringing us
1:01:25
back to probably my least favorite person.
1:01:30
Last show we talked about how we don't really love Drew Brees,
1:01:33
and we might be Not a fan. If Curt Schilling dies, we might have to
1:01:37
replace him. Maybe a little gimmick. I was actually going to ask you, should we
1:01:40
end every show with fuck Joe Rogan or something? No.
1:01:43
Well, definitely not, because I truly don't have any fun. Like,
1:01:47
we're a sports show. Fuck Joe Rogan. He has nothing to do with us.
1:01:50
Oh, at least we got to fuck Joe Rogan in there. Yeah, well, yeah,
1:01:52
for sure. But at the end of the day, Joe Rogan— I'm
1:01:56
sorry, Curt Schilling. Curt Schilling is going to die at some point
1:02:00
and we need a replacement. Fair. Now Drew Brees was floated because neither one of
1:02:04
us liked Drew Brees. Not a fan. I accidentally called Drew Blood, so Drew Brees
1:02:07
hurt my feelings. That was— hurt my own feelings. You should be upset with yourself
1:02:10
for that. But Sean Payton— my visceral
1:02:14
hatred for Sean Payton outpaces Drew Brees by double.
1:02:17
Wow, by double? Yeah, by double. Yeah, I do dislike
1:02:22
Sean Payton more than I dislike Drew Brees. Okay, that is true. All right,
1:02:24
we're on the same page. But because double, I don't know, so it's gonna take
1:02:27
some more doing. Here's the thing. Drew Brees was a like,
1:02:31
like put him in first ballot quarterback. I get it. I understand.
1:02:35
There are— there— the numbers are there. He was very
1:02:39
good. Understand? He was very good. Sean Payton, absolute fucking
1:02:43
fraud watch as a coach. Not even
1:02:47
on fraud watch as a human being. Just a straight up POS.
1:02:52
I just love that Kevin James played him in a movie. That's all I love.
1:02:55
That's, that's all I need and all I love, and I want more of it.
1:02:58
So we need— this is how I titled it in our rundown. I want to
1:03:01
make sure everyone knows that I titled it, We Need to Talk About Sean Payton
1:03:04
Being a Little Bitch Again. I love that. Great fucking title. Thank you so much.
1:03:08
Uh, it's not just Mike McDonald. Every team
1:03:12
scours social media to find opponent tells. Do you know about
1:03:17
this scandal, Cody? I do not know about the scandal. So let me give you
1:03:19
the The CliffsNotes version of this.
1:03:25
He goes on a podcast, Mike McDaniels, and says essentially like,
1:03:28
yeah, we were sort of scouring the internet for
1:03:32
footage of different plays and whatever else before we played the Broncos
1:03:35
in this. Like, it was like a regular season game. Yeah, it was on
1:03:39
a podcast in 2024 as part of their preparation for the season against the Broncos.
1:03:42
McDaniels said the Seahawks watched about 100 plays from Denver's training camp
1:03:46
through videos posted by fans on social media. The Seahawks won that
1:03:50
game 26-20 in McDonald's debut. Later in the season,
1:03:53
Payton caught wind of it and threatened to report the Seahawks to the league.
1:03:57
Fucking what? According to McDonald's, he said— so McDonald's
1:04:01
says Sean Payton threatened to report to the league. I got that. For what?
1:04:05
And then nothing came of the matter as the Seahawks didn't violate
1:04:09
any rules. While addressing the issue Wednesday, Payton said that after speaking with the Seahawks
1:04:13
that season, the Broncos changed their policies for future camps. He said
1:04:16
talking with Seahawks general manager John Schneider allowed us to handle
1:04:20
our training camp relative to just videos. And I don't think
1:04:24
anything was intentional by fans, but at first you're thinking, how could?
1:04:28
And then we just did some research online on what was available, and that's kind
1:04:32
of how we changed our policy. So it helped us to some degree. So because
1:04:36
Sean Payton was pissed that this came out 2
1:04:41
years later, whatever, like all this stuff happens.
1:04:44
McDonald has to— he feels the need to apologize
1:04:48
publicly for— he's like, yeah, I probably shouldn't have talked about that specific thing.
1:04:52
We'd already squashed that. We've already squashed the beef. It is what it is.
1:04:54
But like he had told— he basically apologized
1:04:58
for telling the podcaster that this had happened,
1:05:02
that he had been accused of cheating by Sean Payton.
1:05:07
So Sean Payton accuses him of
1:05:11
cheating by looking at social media practice videos. Yeah.
1:05:15
He talks about it on public information, by the way.
1:05:19
Very public, extraordinarily public information that anyone can ingest
1:05:23
at any given moment. I can do it. Am I cheating too? Am I
1:05:27
fucking cheating? So this is the funniest part, is like it basically is them all
1:05:30
like admitting that Spygate was always bullshit because they're like, it was
1:05:33
just before Twitter. Like, it's like, exactly. It's like,
1:05:36
fucking exactly. No one cares. But so here's the big
1:05:40
thing is that The Athletic, in talking about this and covering this entire thing,
1:05:44
says they talked to 10 coaches and executives from teams to sort of understand
1:05:47
everything. And most of them admitted it's worth scouring the
1:05:51
internet for any shred of available intel, even if much of it is useless.
1:05:55
That is absolutely nothing, a former GM said. It's a waste of time.
1:05:59
And I hate to think people think that there is something of this. A coach
1:06:03
added, it's very common. We all do it. Everyone does it. Now people
1:06:07
don't really think anything about this. You didn't know about it. It is not a
1:06:11
real scandal. Mm-hmm. It's only a scandal
1:06:14
because Sean Payton's a little bitch. No, it's not. It's not a scandal.
1:06:18
It's only a scandal if Bill Belichick does it. Oh, okay.
1:06:21
I see what you're doing. This is only a scandal if
1:06:26
someone we already hate is doing— doing— okay,
1:06:29
now they're 100% right. Mike McDonald did nothing
1:06:33
wrong. This is stupid. It's fucking pathetic. It is literally—
1:06:37
I would never in a million years be mad about this. Sean Payton being
1:06:40
a little bitch about it is really funny considering he is lucky to still have
1:06:44
a job in the NFL after what the fuck he did. Yes. Right.
1:06:48
And let's just ignore Bountygate. He had
1:06:51
a first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterback inside of a fucking dome
1:06:56
for 15 years and managed one Super Bowl that they barely
1:07:00
They almost fucking blew. Why? Okay, so got lucky you played
1:07:03
the Cardinals. Offensive genius of a fucking coach,
1:07:07
already talked about in the— on the level of coaches he should not be in
1:07:11
the same breath with. Don't— do not say Sean Payton and Andy Reid to
1:07:15
me in the same fucking breath. Literally go jump off
1:07:19
of a bridge. That's insane. And then on top of it, you're gonna be a
1:07:22
little bitch about social— so your offense is so
1:07:27
cool and complex that that your prac— that practice video from
1:07:30
fans can cause you to lose to
1:07:34
a first-year head— I'm sorry, 2024?
1:07:38
Hold on, 2024? Mike McDonald was still the fucking D coordinator
1:07:42
of the goddamn— I'm getting more
1:07:46
mad as I cover this. Yeah, so basically the moral of the story is
1:07:50
more or less Sean Payton's a little bitch. That's it.
1:07:54
Sean Payton's a little bitch, and the entire league just admitted that no one gives
1:07:57
a fuck about— pretty much. And I'm glad— I wish everyone would actually say,
1:08:00
yeah, no one gives a shit, Sean Payton's a little bitch. I wish that was
1:08:02
everybody's quote. I just want it on record that the whole league
1:08:06
being like, no one gives a fuck about random practice video, is very funny considering
1:08:10
Spygate. It's also considering the fact that it's like—
1:08:13
it's on Twitter. Like, that's the thing. Like, getting mad about this,
1:08:17
I just still can't get— it was never so like Like, so Spygate was always,
1:08:20
always stupid because it was never that there was video, it was that it was
1:08:23
taken from the wrong allotted spot. It was never that you
1:08:28
couldn't film the practice, you could only film it from a specific place. Yeah.
1:08:31
So it is very funny to me that we are like here 19
1:08:35
years later and everybody's like, every motherfucker who attends practice
1:08:39
can film it and post it to the internet because it's that
1:08:42
useless. Like, the league is fully telling us That
1:08:46
video is not enough to win you an NFL game.
1:08:50
20 years after being like, I can't believe Bill Belichick did
1:08:54
this, which is very exhausting. On top of everything else,
1:08:57
though, Sean Payton, is there anything he's
1:09:01
not insufferable about? No. Is there anything? Nothing. Like you said, he's lucky to have
1:09:05
a job. Bountygate should have ended his career. The end.
1:09:08
The end. It should have ended it. Instead, he got a fucking Disney movie
1:09:12
out of it and got a new job in Denver. Every time I talk about
1:09:14
Tom Brady, There are 95 comments being
1:09:18
like, yeah, but he cheated. Yeah, but he cheated. Yeah, but he cheated.
1:09:23
I, I can't— no one gives a fuck that Sean
1:09:27
Payton was trying to take people's heads off with bounties,
1:09:31
but everybody's mad that Tom Brady got
1:09:35
accused of deflating footballs at halftime,
1:09:39
then went and kicked the shit out of the entire league
1:09:42
for years after that anyway. Yeah. Nobody has
1:09:46
any sense. Everybody's salty little bitches, and Sean
1:09:50
Payton is salty little bitch number one. Everybody who complains about
1:09:53
this shit, you are just right behind Sean Payton in the salty little bitch
1:09:57
column of my fucking lists. I can't wait for the show title
1:10:01
today. Sean Payton is salty little bitch number one. Oh,
1:10:04
that's a good one. Good title. Very good. Good title. I contributed
1:10:09
today. All right. Let's get over to Pop Culture Corner because I'm very
1:10:13
interested in this list. The 100 Best Television Shows of the 21st Century
1:10:17
has come out. And Tanya, it's from the New York Times. Do we agree?
1:10:20
So the New York Times— I just want to make it clear what the parameters
1:10:23
were. The New York Times, uh, talked to more than 500
1:10:27
influential, uh, showrunners and other notable names in the world of TV
1:10:31
and voted on this best series released since January 1st,
1:10:35
2000. Um, this list is exhaustive.
1:10:39
Obviously 100 is great, so we get to see a lot of different
1:10:42
shows. Um, the num—
1:10:46
I'm gonna read you the top 10. How about we— I'll read everybody the top
1:10:49
10 and we'll just sort of kind of piece
1:10:54
together how we feel about it. Okay, you want to do that? Yes, let's do
1:10:56
it. All right, top 10. Breaking Bad, number 1.
1:10:59
Understandable. Well, we're not gonna go through— we'll, we'll just say it all
1:11:03
and then we'll go. Okay, so Breaking Bad, The Wire, Number 2,
1:11:06
Mad Men, Succession, uh,
1:11:09
Fleabag, Game of Thrones, Veep,
1:11:13
30 Rock, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Atlanta.
1:11:18
First things first, one of these things is not like the other one. First things
1:11:20
first, I'm really happy Atlanta got the nod. Um, huge fan
1:11:25
of Atlanta being on there. Really glad Atlanta got the nod. I would have expected
1:11:28
to be in the top 100. Seeing it in the top 10 really makes me
1:11:31
fucking happy. Because that show was fucking fantastic. Fleabag ahead of
1:11:35
Game of Thrones is the most surprising. Get your shit
1:11:39
to fucking gather, shit. That is, that is a bunch of TV people
1:11:44
jerking themselves off in a way that I've never seen. Was Fleabag
1:11:49
a good show? Of course, Fleabag was great. It should definitely be
1:11:52
on this list. Putting it ahead of Game of Thrones, putting it in the top
1:11:55
10, putting it in the top 20 is psychotic behavior that is pissing
1:11:59
me all the way off. I agree. I'm glad Atlanta's on there. Agreed. I,
1:12:02
I really am. Andor being number 32, I, I honestly think that should be higher,
1:12:06
to be honest with you. Band of Brothers at 28, that's a pretty good call.
1:12:09
Better Call Saul, you know, a spin-off series getting that high at 27.
1:12:13
Very good show. I would take— I would take, uh,
1:12:16
let me chime in real quick. Yes, please do.
1:12:20
I would take Better Call Saul over Game of Thrones
1:12:23
any day. I think Game of Thrones being in 6 is incredibly
1:12:27
generous. I— that's because, yeah, if you look
1:12:30
at the list, I think Stranger Things
1:12:34
and Game of Things— and Game of Thrones— Game of Things— and Game
1:12:38
of Things, pretty much what it became. Um,
1:12:42
I think they're on the same level because they ended so poorly. So I
1:12:46
didn't even— to your point, I didn't even watch the end of, um,
1:12:49
Stranger Things. I'm not— I'm not gonna put Game of Thrones Uh,
1:12:52
in Stranger Things category, because at the very least they like consistently
1:12:56
put out stuff on a, on a schedule that like made sense for their budget.
1:13:00
Like Stranger Things would take like 4 years. Like, this is fucking stupid.
1:13:04
So I have a, I have a complaint. I do have a complaint because I
1:13:07
can't find it and it must not be in here. By the way, Twin Peaks:
1:13:10
The Return being at 47 is criminally— wait, is it
1:13:14
criminally low? Wait, Twin Peaks: The Return at 47
1:13:18
No crime. No, no, that one shouldn't be that high. It should be
1:13:22
way higher. No, should be way higher. I disagree. Twin Peaks: The
1:13:26
Return should be way higher. I love Battlestar Galactica being on the fucking 37
1:13:30
list because that movie is criminally underappreciated. All right, let's— but there is a
1:13:34
show that I cannot find. Structure, because we, we are in a podcast form,
1:13:37
so let's make sure. So, so we'll structure this. What are you looking for in
1:13:41
the show that you can't find? I found it. It's not high enough. What is
1:13:44
it? Arrested Development needs to be higher than 12.
1:13:49
No, it doesn't. Arrested Development is maybe, in my
1:13:52
opinion, the greatest comedy ever put together on American television. No, because all,
1:13:56
all you're doing is like you're arguing that it's better than Curb,
1:13:59
but like it is, but that's fine. But like realistically, 12 is fine.
1:14:04
Like it's not like, it's not like it's not— do you understand what I mean?
1:14:07
Like the argument is that it's better
1:14:11
than 30 Rock and Curb. I, that, I think it's better than both, but you
1:14:14
know, there's a bunch of people that disagree with you, so it's fine. It's right
1:14:18
up there. I think there's a lot of good. Now, I don't necessarily think that
1:14:22
Breaking Bad should even be number 1, quite honestly. Like,
1:14:26
I, I don't— you know what I do all day
1:14:30
long is I sift through regular,
1:14:34
uh, I sift through regular and constant references to
1:14:38
The Wire. Not Breaking Bad. Nobody's like, this is classic Walter
1:14:42
White. It's not. It doesn't fucking happen.
1:14:45
Nothing is— are you normally walking into things like, that's classic Omar?
1:14:49
Yes, I got compared to
1:14:52
Omar. Do you walk around doing his whistle? What was his whistle like again?
1:14:55
Oh, it was the, um, it was, um, oh shit, Omar's coming.
1:14:59
Yeah, yeah, the— I got compared to
1:15:02
Omar on the internet the other day, and I was like, this is the greatest
1:15:05
That's pretty good. It's a pretty good person. Omar's coming as me, like when
1:15:10
I show up in a comment section. I was like, oh my God. Um,
1:15:14
Farmer in the Dell, that's what he would whistle.
1:15:16
That's right. And by the way, uh, after he passed away,
1:15:20
sadly way too soon— Michael K. Williams. Yeah, the, uh, Atlanta— not sorry,
1:15:23
the Atlanta— the Baltimore Orioles were playing that for their opening. It was
1:15:27
awesome. So I, um, I will say I think in, in terms
1:15:32
of cultural relevance, I don't think that any of these other shows
1:15:36
in the top 10 even compare to The Wire. Um,
1:15:39
like, that, that's— that to me just is— it's a nitpick,
1:15:43
and that's fine. Fleabag being at 5 is gonna piss me off for
1:15:47
the rest of my life. It's a good show, but like, calm down. Number 5?
1:15:50
Also, like, I know, like— wait, go ahead, Mocha. What do you got?
1:15:54
I, I just have to reiterate that Better Call Saul—
1:15:58
like, this list is a joke, and I was about
1:16:02
to trip out because I was looking for The Sopranos and then I realized,
1:16:04
okay, 21st century. Yeah, but also Chernobyl
1:16:09
at, at 19 is insane too. It's pretty high. I,
1:16:13
I think you— do you think it should be higher or lower? I think it
1:16:16
should be higher because I think what this list should be judged about is shows
1:16:20
that started strong and ended strong. Cody,
1:16:24
I mean, I think a lot of these shows, Mocha, didn't end strong.
1:16:27
I'm gonna— okay, I'm gonna ask you which one of the shows you've actually watched
1:16:32
through that were before 2010. Like, let's be real,
1:16:36
Mocha. Like, you actually— did you watch all The Wire?
1:16:40
Um, I've only seen like season 2. I suggest— so that's— I'm not hating on
1:16:44
The Wire. No, I love that. No, this is— The Wire is probably— this is
1:16:47
the problem, is that Gen Z, if you weren't like a millennial show watcher,
1:16:51
if you didn't go back and watch all the iconic shows from 2000 like to
1:16:55
2010, you can't wait. You can't actually
1:16:59
weigh it against all these other lists. Like, Cody and I have been
1:17:02
here. We've been in the shit since 2000.
1:17:06
We've been going through this, Mocha. Chernobyl doesn't fucking
1:17:11
touch some of these shows. Like, it just doesn't. Because part
1:17:14
of this is cultural. Like, how much has it mattered?
1:17:18
So to your point, Mocha, what might happen is that in another 10
1:17:22
years different things because,
1:17:25
because TV has changed, right? So zeitgeist is
1:17:28
very, very different. It's hard for something to catch fire the way that it used
1:17:32
to with the national audience. But like a lot of
1:17:36
these shows you were too young to remember, like I don't, I don't think you
1:17:40
understand what Modern Family did to like network television
1:17:44
for like 5 years. Yeah, like Modern Family took over
1:17:49
network television for years.
1:17:53
It changed that whole, like, um, like Modern
1:17:57
Family and The Office, like, changed the way we made television. Oh, absolutely.
1:18:00
It absolutely did. Um, and I honestly think that— but to be fair,
1:18:04
I think that all kind of started with Arrested Development. Like,
1:18:07
the way that was shot, that was like the very beginning of something brand new.
1:18:10
Did they do the— it was, it was like a documentary style. No,
1:18:13
not documentary style. Um, kind of disagree with
1:18:17
you. I, I was around for most of these shows. Okay.
1:18:21
Um, and I was in the world as a conscious person to
1:18:24
witness their effect. Okay, well, being 5 years old when
1:18:28
something debuted doesn't— I believe in you, but here's my question. Where's Sons of Anarchy
1:18:31
on this list? I mean, look, look at, look at what's in this list.
1:18:34
Breaking Bad, Succession, Game of Thrones, Curb Your Enthusiasm. All these
1:18:38
shows I've been around for. Arrested Development. Like, you're like acting like I I have
1:18:42
never heard of all the shows. No, wait, wait, did I say heard of every
1:18:46
single one of them? Did I say heard of, or did I say— did I
1:18:48
say— Jesus, let's not yell at each other. But you're also— but you're also saying
1:18:53
that like I wasn't around to feel the cultural impact of these shows.
1:18:56
Oh yeah, I was. Hey, hey, Mocha, I'm not gonna lie, your elementary school cultural
1:19:01
impact of The Wire is not impressing me. It's just not.
1:19:04
What are you talking about? My, my, my, my 8th
1:19:08
grade teacher wouldn't shut up about The Wire. See, that's a good
1:19:12
8th grade teacher, by the way. And, and you know what? And you know what?
1:19:15
I love that for you, but that is, that is not the same as you
1:19:18
being like, I loved the ending of Chernobyl because I was old enough to watch
1:19:22
it. Because that's how— you're acting like I'm 12. I'm 28 years old.
1:19:26
I've— I'm like the same generation as you, by the way.
1:19:30
I'm a little kid. Like, I think that you're old enough to judge a lot
1:19:33
of this, but what I am saying is that like There it— when you were
1:19:37
like, they're opening, they said like starting in 2000. You were
1:19:41
like 4 years old when this window began. So like, I was 2.
1:19:45
Okay, but I was giving you more credit than you deserve, by the way,
1:19:49
uh, on this list. But you should give me more credit. I'm really thrilled about
1:19:52
it because I have 2 older brothers. Um, yes,
1:19:55
you beat— and a lot of this stuff is just as relevant. Okay, but okay,
1:19:58
so what I asked you was, you— so you haven't seen The Wire. You have—
1:20:02
you, you— have you seen how— of the top 10, what have you watched
1:20:06
all the way through? Um, Breaking Bad,
1:20:10
Game of Thrones, Curb. Um,
1:20:14
and yeah. Okay, which ones have you seen? Have you seen all of them?
1:20:17
I've seen Breaking Bad, The Wire, Succession, Game of Thrones,
1:20:20
Veep, 30 Rock, Curb, and Atlanta. The only one here
1:20:24
I've not seen every episode of— there's only one thing here I've not seen every
1:20:27
episode in the top Um, the top 13.
1:20:31
Fleabag stressed me out because that whole thing was like, I don't like secondhand
1:20:35
embarrassment. And like, that's an issue for me as well. And so that's the same
1:20:39
reason I'm not a big fan of Curb. I can only watch it like one
1:20:41
episode. 100%. It's one of those things for me. But I have watched all of
1:20:44
the episodes. I've never watched all of Veep. I've only watched season 1.
1:20:47
And I really like Veep. I really like Veep. So like, maybe that's just
1:20:51
an American humor thing. Um, last but not least, my favorite thing
1:20:54
on this list. I just found it and it really is funny and it is
1:20:57
correct because there is a show on this list, but it's very
1:21:01
specific, and that's True Detective season 1. It only
1:21:04
specifies season 1, and it is currently, uh, right there on,
1:21:08
uh, season 1, number 35. True Detective is not on this
1:21:12
list. Did you see True Detective season 1?
1:21:16
Um, it's been on my list. It's been something that I've been meaning to watch.
1:21:20
Okay, so that— I will say that I, I think
1:21:23
that's one of the best shows of the 20th century. Season 1 is— I think
1:21:26
it was so almost untouchable. Also Homeland, the first
1:21:30
2 seasons of Homeland. First season, first 2 were great. First 2 seasons of
1:21:34
Homeland lost me in third. Were, were the like, were like a like paradigm-shifting
1:21:40
experience, and then things got a little crazy. Uh,
1:21:43
Mocha, if you want to know what it was like to be a
1:21:47
millennial in the like early 2000s, watch the,
1:21:50
watch the first 2 episodes of Homeland, or seasons of Homeland.
1:21:54
That shit was so good. The acting is so good though.
1:21:57
No, it loses you in season 3. Damian Lewis is so—
1:22:02
he's such a good actor. He's very good. Uh, so I actually like— all in
1:22:06
all, I like this list. I think it's fun. I think it's giving us a
1:22:08
lot of stuff. There's definitely some like— there's definitely going to be some,
1:22:12
some generational stuff between Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z who
1:22:15
are all old enough to watch a lot of these shows, but whatever. Number 70,
1:22:18
The Shield, correct? Needs to be higher. Oh, your boy, you're— yeah, you love The
1:22:22
Shield. You're like a super fan. I don't think The Shield should be higher than
1:22:25
70. You're very bad at like— so like, this is when
1:22:28
I— this is how I suss out whether people are good at— because like,
1:22:32
what you haven't heard me say is fuck Mad Men, and I
1:22:36
literally think Mad Men's one of the worst. Like, I fucking hate
1:22:40
Mad Men. Really? Yo, yo, Isaiah just said Prison
1:22:43
Break. Prison Break, we're talking about like season 1, season 1, season 1 and
1:22:48
2. Goated. No, you're right. No, no, you're right. Prison Break was
1:22:51
a thing. Prison Break was a thing that was like— and it was a
1:22:55
like a cultural thing. But I was in elementary school when that
1:22:58
aired. I genuinely hate Mad Men. And I'm not—
1:23:02
too many people have told me where Mad Men ranks for
1:23:06
them for me to like— I'm not spending my time arguing it, but I don't
1:23:09
like that show. I like it. Does nothing for me. But you
1:23:14
have to be able to So like, my favorite show is on this list.
1:23:16
My favorite show of all time is on this list. Have you heard me complain
1:23:19
about it? No. And you want to know why? Because I'm better at everything
1:23:22
than everybody else. Interesting. And so what happens is that
1:23:26
when I see lists, I take everything with a grain of salt. What is your
1:23:30
favorite show of all time? Lost. Right? Okay.
1:23:33
And it's way higher than your show. Interesting. Because my show— I
1:23:37
have better taste than you. My God, I watched every single episode of
1:23:41
Lost. I have every season of Lost on DVD, fuck right
1:23:45
off. Wait, I love Lost, make no mistake, but are we gonna sit here and
1:23:49
say they really stuck the landing there? Yes. Oh, give me a fucking break.
1:23:52
That was— are you one of those people that thinks it means they were dead
1:23:55
the whole time? Oh no, no, not at all. Okay. No, no, the, the,
1:23:57
the, the flash sideways? No, no, no, no, no. Come on, Cody, you know what,
1:24:00
skip Vegas. We're going in there, we're getting cozy on the
1:24:04
couch, we're firing up, we're firing all of Lost. Listen, I love this.
1:24:08
We are going to watch Lost start to finish. I will tell you, if you
1:24:11
like Lost— I do love Lost— I will reconvince you. If you watch
1:24:15
with me, you will end that show feeling like your whole
1:24:18
life had changed. Okay, I have seen all of Lost more
1:24:22
than once, and I will tell you this 7 times. I will tell you this.
1:24:25
Shut up, Mocha. Lost has the
1:24:29
single best ending to a season of any show I had ever seen.
1:24:32
And it's— Tale of the Shield? No, no, no. Season 3 ending
1:24:36
of Lost. Oh, not Penny's Boat? No, I know that was— that
1:24:40
was the episode, but it wasn't the ending. Yeah, but you're— that episode— not Penny's
1:24:44
Boat. Yeah, that was the— fuck, that hurts so bad. But no, the very end—
1:24:46
the very end of that episode was, Kate, we have
1:24:50
to go back. I fucking— I fucking spat
1:24:54
out my drink, threw glasses against the wall, like, no, no, what the fuck?
1:24:57
No, it can't end here. I need to know now. It's fucking great. I— my
1:25:01
household repeatedly says we have to go back out of context. Just quoting that.
1:25:05
Really great stuff. Now my favorite show of all time is Doctor
1:25:08
Who, but it's not on this list because that's been around for about roughly 70
1:25:11
years. Although if they had, I wish that they had had
1:25:15
like the newer version on there. No, yeah, I wish they were like shows who
1:25:19
had a certain amount of seasons in them, because like Doctor Who would be
1:25:22
on here because it was relaunched in 2005. So it should be
1:25:26
like they should have given like anything that had a certain amount
1:25:29
of seasons in the 21st century. But that being said, I will say this,
1:25:32
my favorite show of all time that on this list is Arrested
1:25:36
Development. I think it's the funniest. You've talked more about The
1:25:40
Shield to me though. Oh, I love The Shield. No, The Shield's really great,
1:25:43
but no, like, if I, if I had the choice to sit down and watch
1:25:45
Arrested Development or The Shield, I'm watching Arrested Development 10 out of 10 times.
1:25:48
I think— have you ever sat down and truly watched? Yeah, I, I've watched a
1:25:51
ton of it. I think we're sitting down for Lost, we're gonna sit down and
1:25:54
watch Arrested Development together. I, I wouldn't be mad about it. I think Arrested Development's
1:25:58
really funny, but if we're gonna do that, then we have to watch V.
1:25:59
Keep. And then, and then you're gonna hit me with another thing after, so we're
1:26:03
gonna keep doing this. Mocha, you're moving in. We got a lot of shows to
1:26:05
watch, baby. Mocha, what is
1:26:09
your favorite show on this list? Like, have you looked at it
1:26:13
and sort of like— yeah, well, it's, yeah, it's easy. I mean, Breaking Bad.
1:26:16
Okay, easy. Okay, so for you, that's a good pick for number 1? I think
1:26:20
it's a good pick. Okay. Um, I also have another problem though with this list.
1:26:23
Okay. 100 is just too big of number. It's too
1:26:27
big of a number. I agree. It's too big of a number. Too big of
1:26:31
a number. Wait, you know what's really funny is I, I normally hate a
1:26:35
long list. I think that I was so glad they had 100. Really?
1:26:38
Because, because we have gotten to a place where there's so
1:26:43
many shows, like especially since the streaming era starting in
1:26:47
like 2010, 2011, there's so much shit that comes out that's like really,
1:26:50
really good And so I was like, if this was a
1:26:54
list that came out in 2010, it would be a crazy number of shows.
1:26:58
But we've— we like so much. So like The Night Of— have you seen The
1:27:02
Night Of? Oh, what a fucking great show. The Night
1:27:06
Of at number 92. So good. It's one of the best seasons
1:27:11
of television I've ever watched, and nobody's fucking seen it.
1:27:14
It was nominated for awards. Riz Ahmed was amazing. He was really great. So like,
1:27:18
that is goated. And this is actually where I really first saw something. I'm like,
1:27:22
have you seen it, Mocha? Or no, see, I remember when
1:27:27
it was coming out, right? So what I'm saying is like, like,
1:27:30
that's something where I'm like, I'm, I'm glad that it got a shout out because
1:27:34
I remember that watching that show and being like, oh, this shit is one of
1:27:38
the best actors alive, right? Like, that's how I really fell in love with Riz
1:27:42
Ahmed. And so I'm glad that it— but I get what you're saying where it's
1:27:45
like it can be a little overwhelming. Um, and part
1:27:49
of the issue is that they've got some like real dingbat shows on there,
1:27:51
like We don't need The Queen's Gambit on there. Yeah, Squid Game on here.
1:27:55
Yeah, yeah, get out of here. We also— oh, by the way, Community should
1:28:00
be higher. Also, talk about cultural relevance, Dexter at
1:28:03
88. I've never seen Dexter, but there was a couple
1:28:07
years, especially the first 4 seasons of Dexter. Holy shit, good. Very good call,
1:28:11
Mocha. Very good call. All my former— all of my former anger at
1:28:15
you has been rescinded. Can I also throw another one that should— that's criminally low?
1:28:17
I get it was only 3 seasons, but I'm sorry, you want to talk about
1:28:20
cultural impact? Number 58. Chappelle's Show at 58.
1:28:25
Fucking move it up. So are you mad? Always Sunny, move it up.
1:28:28
78. Fucking move it up. It's got to be higher. It's Always Sunny should be
1:28:32
higher. That's crazy. All right, let's ask— let's, let's— before we check
1:28:35
the, the chat before we go, because we should check the chat to see if
1:28:38
anyone has any hardcore takes. There's a couple in there already. My, my question
1:28:42
is, how do you guys feel about Key Peele ahead of Chappelle's Show? I actually
1:28:46
am not against it being ahead My problem is it's like 17 to 58,
1:28:49
and that's crazy. Too big of a gap. How do you feel about Key& Peele
1:28:53
versus Chappelle? Um, I think the thing that— the
1:28:57
advantage that Key& Peele might have is there's just more content.
1:29:01
Yeah, I, um, I think that Key& Peele like knew they were making
1:29:05
content for, for an internet era, and it was different. Yeah, I agree
1:29:09
with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, on here, Prison Breaks. Uh, one person mentions
1:29:14
Prison Break. Um, here's a good one. We're making— Maria says, I wish you
1:29:17
guys were checking the chat, we're making some good points. There is,
1:29:21
uh, somebody mentions Fringe. That's a great call. Fringe should get
1:29:25
some love. There's one on here that I will admit is one of my favorite
1:29:28
shows of all time, but it only had 17 episodes. What show? I love
1:29:32
that someone in here said Firefly. Firefly is fantastic.
1:29:36
But I have to say, who said Firefly? Uh, that would be,
1:29:40
uh, MX Oh my god, why does he stay
1:29:44
pissing me off? No, you're right. It's a great show. There's only 17 episodes.
1:29:47
He stayed— he's trolling. He's trolling. He's constantly trolling. Firefly is phenomenal, but it was
1:29:51
17 episodes. Um, Twin Peaks is amazing. Good call. Let's see, we're going through the
1:29:55
chat, guys. We're not gonna leave you hanging before we go. Maria's Loving Lanterns will
1:29:59
be on the list. Bird Gang 79 said, I adore Fleabag personally,
1:30:03
and that's really good for you, but, but as high on that list,
1:30:07
Bird Gang, as high on that list? Are we sure?
1:30:10
Uh, Maria asks, where's ER on this list?
1:30:13
1990s, pre-2000s. Yeah, pre-2000s. Um, also Friday
1:30:17
Night Lights at 14 makes, uh, Meg's, uh,
1:30:20
Megan Guilfoyle's, uh, oh yeah, happy because— so I think that's a little high personally.
1:30:24
Oh, fuck, literally stop fucking with me. I think it's a little high.
1:30:27
Fuck off. Me and Meg know everything.
1:30:30
We're way better than you and everything and all of it. It's a little high.
1:30:34
No, come on, dude. Friday Night Lights was iconic, and Meg's right,
1:30:38
and it's perfect. It's a lot. I think I just broke my mic. What did
1:30:42
I do? Stop breaking our shit. No, I don't. Oh, I'm the only reason that
1:30:46
we don't have a beeping thing in our— That is true, but I agree.
1:30:50
Ha ha, Mama Fox agrees with me. No Sons of Anarchy is a travesty.
1:30:54
Yes, I agree. That's much, right? Oh, Mocha agrees too.
1:30:58
Yeah, I think it's just relevance. Good everything.
1:31:01
All right, so where everybody— Opie alone should be on this list.
1:31:05
Isaiah, Isaiah just made a really good point. What's up? Oh,
1:31:08
one season Watchmen over Chernobyl, and he's 100%
1:31:13
right. Have you guys seen The Watchmen? Yes,
1:31:16
really liked it. Like the more than Chernobyl? I can definitely tell you. No,
1:31:19
you haven't seen The Watchmen? No, no, it's really good. Oh dude, you should check
1:31:23
it out. It is. No, it is really fucking good. Like psychotically good.
1:31:27
By the way, is The Leftovers on here? Is The Leftovers on here?
1:31:31
Uh, it is on there, yes. Pretty high, it's like on number 40. Uh,
1:31:34
by the way, uh, somebody says, I wish, but Firefly didn't— hasn't aged well.
1:31:37
You are correct, it has not aged well, because the longer you go back
1:31:41
and you look at it, you realize it is a space-bound movie about— oh my
1:31:46
God, the Confederacy, more or less.
1:31:48
Bro, Isaiah's saying all the aunties loved Sons of Anarchy
1:31:52
is very funny.
1:31:56
Auntie's Love said he's not wrong. Um, was The Strain on
1:31:59
the list or Legion? I did not see Strain or Legion on the list.
1:32:03
No, Legion was actually a sneaky good one. Yeah, I didn't love The
1:32:07
Strain though. All right, well guys, we'll talk more. We'll talk more TV. We'll do—
1:32:11
you know what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do the thing we did a
1:32:12
while ago. Um, I'm gonna put out to listeners
1:32:16
topic suggestions. Okay, so that we can do a topic show. I love that.
1:32:20
Um, and we'll probably do it on a Friday. So that we have this like
1:32:24
looser show. We're going to have a lot to do on Tuesdays every week after
1:32:27
NFL. But this was fun. Absolutely was fun. Me and Mocha— me
1:32:30
and Mocha got in a generational war. You guys got fucking into it. It was
1:32:33
great. I hate it when I see the kids fighting. You're lucky this screen is
1:32:37
protecting her. Well, here's the most important thing.
1:32:40
Make sure you like, share, and subscribe. Hey, listen, this show is kind of really
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1:32:50
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1:32:54
we don't, we don't like take for granted and we don't not notice who's
1:32:58
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1:33:02
It's, it does not go not noticed and it will not go, uh,
1:33:06
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1:33:10
type of people who forget who was there riding with us. Um,
1:33:13
So we really appreciate you, and we, we talk about you like you matter so
1:33:17
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1:33:33
best, like, views on this poor quality because you're blurry, and they're
1:33:37
like, oh my God, thank God I don't have to see his face in HD.
1:33:41
ADHD. That's what I'm talking about. I made Mocha laugh.
1:33:44
I made Mocha laugh. Like, share, and subscribe. It's a hostile—
1:33:48
like, share, and subscribe. But you know what, you told me I was hot earlier.
1:33:50
What the fuck? You were hot. And now, and now what?
1:33:54
No, no, dude. Why? Because I love Arrested Development? No, no, it— that was,
1:33:58
that was a hot video. Oh, thanks. Check it out. That also makes
1:34:02
it sound like you showed me something. No, no, it was just me golfing and
1:34:06
she thought I looked good in it. What's Apparently. And I, and I think you
1:34:08
look really good right now. Thank you very much. I'm a little thick. I gotta
1:34:12
drop the pounds. I will say, you know who doesn't look good? Dude, I'm— he
1:34:16
really doesn't. He really doesn't. We might not— we really do need to change the
1:34:18
ending, but not yet. Until then, like, share, and subscribe. And most importantly,
1:34:23
fuck you, Kurt Schiller. Oh my God, fuck you, Kurt Schiller.