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Episode 38: Our Favorite (and Least Favorite) Quotes From Star Wars · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there. It's most things Kenobi.
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  This is the podcast you're looking for.
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  Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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  A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host Lauren, and I'm your host Leanne, and this week,
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  we are discussing our favorite quotes.
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  Yes. And bonus material.
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  Our most hated quotes that which we added later because we were
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  going to just talk about our favorites.
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  But then, Lauren's, like maybe we should throw in our least
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  favorite and I was like, okay, and Lisa.
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  One I have I have to I do too. Okay, good.
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  Alright, sweet. So we earn it.
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  Be funny if they're the same one.
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  I wonder there's there's like nine films to choose from.
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  Yeah. Yeah yeah.
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  There's quite a bit of material is hard to choose my favorites
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  to I know my first my top favorite quote of all time.
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  Yes and then the second one it was a tie.
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  So I'll tell you my tie, I guess I have three favorites but I
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  kind of do too. But one is more like a Our
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  station that I like so it's not like a quotes.
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  It's kind of like an honorable mention at the end.
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  Oh, I like this. Okay.
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  Well let's get into it then. Do you want to start or shall I?
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  You can start. Okay.
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  Could you guess that this is my favorite quote in all of Star
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  Wars? I think it's the one I'm
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  reminded of often most often in my own life because I need
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  reminded of it. Fear is the path to the dark
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  side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads
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  to hate, hate leads to suffering.
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  Yeah, came from Yoda himself talking to Anakin and I love it
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  because if you think about each of its parts, it's so true.
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  Mmm, fear often leads to anger. I mean, think of things that you
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  don't understand, right? It can often.
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  If you don't understand it, you get angry.
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  Like, if you To understand a problem or you don't understand
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  how to fix something. What's the very next thing you
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  get kind of frustrated, right angry?
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  But anger leading to hate, absolutely.
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  We see this across the planet and he just leads to suffering.
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  I mean, it in this aspect, it was obviously meant, you know,
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  the dark side. All of this goes to the dark
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  side Anakin eventually turns to the dark side because he let
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  fear control him and it led to his ultimate lifelong suffering,
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  but it's so applicable. Every day, anger is a natural.
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  Human response is something we all have to, like manage, mmm.
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  We should never let it get to hate and certainly never let it
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  get us into a mode of suffering. So anyway, that's my favorite
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  Star Wars quote. That's a really beautiful quote.
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  I love that and the best kind of media books movies, whatever,
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  other kind of our, it's great in the story but it also applies to
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  our regular lives. And I think yeah that that's
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  It's a really good example of that because living in fear, in
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  a state of fear of any kind of fear is paralyzing.
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  It's a horrible place to be yes. And look at how Anakin suffered
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  so much for the rest of his life, giving into that.
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  It's really heartbreaking. And one of the one of my
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  favorite pictures that they always attached to.
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  This quote is like, Anakin as a child, which is connected to the
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  fear Anakin in, like, as he Coming up as a young Jedi, I
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  guess that Jedi and training. I guess Phantom Menace, not
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  Phantom Menace. Jesus.
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  If I could get my life together, Anakin in the Clone Wars Attack
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  of the Clones, that would be the anger.
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  And the hate is Revenge of the Sith, which eventually leads to
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  the suffering, which is Darth Vader.
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  And it's all very beautifully. He was scared as a child.
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  He let it make him hateful and angry and then eventually the
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  suffering he suffered his Entire the rest of his adult living
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  life. Yeah, just suffered think of
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  your own lives. If there's ever been a time
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  where you were wronged or like something that you were clinging
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  to and you realize that like, you are the only one with the
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  power to like free yourself from that prison.
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  You know, it's like he couldn't forgive Obi-Wan and he couldn't
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  let go of all the anger plus, you know, that a put him in that
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  suit that made it kind of hard to let go of and yanger little
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  It helped to fuel it and like you live in a Your Own Prison.
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  Then when you're clinging to hate and anger, you're the only
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  one who can like forgive and let it go.
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  Yes, you can decide that those things just aren't worth your
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  suffering. That's like the biggest.
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  Most powerful thing you can do for yourself, hatred of another
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  hurts. You more than the person.
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  It's supposed to be directed at yes, especially because they
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  probably, Bibliography thinking about you as much as yours know
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  about them. Exactly, it's funny because if
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  you think about it like after Anakin fell and became Darth
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  Vader, he went on like this quest to kill all the rest of
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  the Jedi, that didn't make it there.
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  That didn't didn't get killed in order 66.
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  He went around just the purred, the jet, the great Jedi Purge
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  right. He hated him so much that he
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  spent like how many years decades focusing only on them
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  like yeah instead of just letting It Go, which I mean,
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  that's not the story, I know but like think of it as yourself
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  instead of just letting it go and freeing yourself from it.
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  He clung to it and kept on like the Jedi took up so much free
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  rent space in his head. Yeah.
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  Long after it wasn't even a like he should have just been like,
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  okay next next. Next level of moving on being.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I always get a kick out of
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  it in A New Hope because like Every other line Vader gives is
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  about Obi-Wan and it's like, dude, this happened a long time
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  ago, like could eat like is he literally on your mind
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  constantly? Yes that must be Agony in who
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  suffer, I mean obviously the Jedi suffered.
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  Yeah and the rebels eventually, you know because like this
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  Palpatine was focused if nothing else, but he was the one who
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  carried around the death of Padme with him.
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  He was the one that carried around The Jedi wronged him and
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  how wrong, you know, how everybody wronged him and all
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  this stuff. And it's just like, man well he
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  has a ripple effect, right? Like yeah, the center of the
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  Ripple and then you just start making everyone around you
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  suffer. When you're that way, well Vader
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  is often written or described. As like, you sent him coming
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  like his Dark Cloud before he even enters the room.
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  That's somebody who has some negative shit around them.
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  Yeah. You wouldn't want to spend time
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  around anybody? Like, no, I mean, think of
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  family members, our friends that you have That like, you know,
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  you're just like, oh God, here they come like though they're
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  showing up at a family party. There's such a downer, you know
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  what I mean? You know, you have someone in
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  your family like that I do. It's just like, oh, it's so get
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  the Darth Vader in the family. No, nobody's that cool in my
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  family but like, and nobody's killed anyone in my family that
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  I know of but, you know, hopefully not no.
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  But I'm pretty sure. I mean we're a docile Bunch but
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  no one has a cool. No one has a cool respirator
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  like that now. Yeah.
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  No capes either I judge Be a, the the swivel that the swish
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  Enos of a cape. And the cape drop.
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  It's very important, the case. The cape drop.
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  Yeah. I mean Kenobi.
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  There's no better traumatic Cape drop than one from Kenobi.
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  Right? Seriously, that mother of the
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  one in Revenge of the Sith is epic.
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  Yeah. There's listen, Revenge of the
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  Sith. Cape drop is mic drop as far as
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  I'm concerned. Like yeah, we could do a whole
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  episode on Cape dropping Mark that down.
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  Add it to the list. Hey, that's mine.
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  How about yours? My favorite one is similar.
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  It's actually a Like A Life Lesson type one that really
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  really resonates with me and it's quite guns.
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  Quote, that your focus determines your reality, just
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  love it. I knew that was coming and it is
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  so applicable to life. It's a life lesson.
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  Like you said, it's so good. It's really true, and it's just
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  been so true in my own. In life, you know.
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  Well, think back to what we were just talking about your focus
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  determines. So, if you think about
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  depressing hateful things, you're gonna be depressing and
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  hateful like yeah, that's going to be your life.
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  It's all you're going to see. So yeah, and Luke.
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  Luke chose to see the good. No.
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  Yeah. His reality was very different
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  than his father's especially and look how it turned out.
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  Yeah. And like they both had really
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  shitty sad. Sad childhoods and they turned
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  out very differently because they have different mentality,
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  you maybe Luke didn't have the fear, you know, he know grew up
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  at least with a family unit that you know, I mean Anakin and his
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  mother, but he still slave and Luke had grumpy Uncle Owen, but
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  he didn't feel all in way doing his very best.
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  Okay. Seriously, Lucas a lot.
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  Okay, he's a lot to handle. I don't deny, but to be like, in
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  my In my past, like I was much more of a negative person, a
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  cynical sarcastic person and I was not very happy.
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  No. And then I had like a big life
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  shift recently and I used to always feel like the Gratitude
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  culture was kind of for you know, hipsters and it was
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  bullshit but it's not actually the more you focus on your
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  gratitude and focus on the things that make you happy and
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  make that the center of your focus, your reality.
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  Is in line with that and you don't necessarily believe it
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  till you do it. You know.
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  It can seem kind of like bullshit, but it's really not.
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  And so I just love that about Qui-Gon because it's not about
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  the code, right? And it's not an uptight thing.
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  It's like giving you the ultimate power truly, because if
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  you have the power to control your thoughts and your reality,
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  you can handle. All kinds of situations that
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  come up with more grace, you know, without, like losing your
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  Shit, totally, which, you know, we're allowed to do that.
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  That's fine. It's okay.
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  If that happens to you, we're not always pretty I've read
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  something once. It's like it's not all fucking
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  rainbows and Narnia know when you, when you're like a
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  positivity person or like a, it's true gratitude person.
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  It's not that every day know, you have bad days.
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  So but at least, you know, you have tools to help you work
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  through those days, that's what it is.
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  And I didn't learn that until I met you, you held.
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  Help me when I was in a negative place.
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  And you told me about practice, more gratitude and positive,
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  affirmations and things. And I was like, okay, well I
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  haven't tried it. So I can't rule it out, right?
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  And it literally helped so much and that makes me happy.
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  I'm glad I'm yeah, you've helped me so much.
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  Well, you have helped me to, I mean, I was really emotional
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  tissue box. Do this every time this
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  happened, but no trying to our teacups.
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  Yeah, but I mean I had I was the same, I was in a really shitty
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  place and I felt like, well, I've never tried this, so I
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  can't really discredit it until I try it.
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  So I tried it and there was a huge shift for me, mentally, not
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  overnight though, that shit don't work.
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  It does it take enough daily practice?
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  It's not but can't really ever stop.
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  Yeah, well, it's like working out.
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  If you only do it every once in a while, it's not really gonna.
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  Amount judge but that the dedication and the consistency
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  is what really racks it up. So yeah and I don't have any
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  problem striving to be more like Qui gonn know whether it's the
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  hair. Oh yeah fine hair goals.
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  Yeah sorry. I went to the shallow part but
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  he has Luscious Hair in that in that moved us here.
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  I don't care if it's a weave, I don't care if it's a is a better
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  we've than Obi-Wan had an attack of the Clones.
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  We've been over this. Yep, that's a good quote.
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  I love that one me too. I could get that one tattooed.
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  I think and not feel regret. No, that would be a constant
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  reminder, in your face all the time of you had it in, like, you
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  know, place where I could refer to it often exactly to remind me
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  what I'm having those moments when I'm being negative or
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  depressed? Well, what's your next one?
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  Well, my next one is at I like I said I mean and it's because of
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  the poignancy of the moment the the one that Is my second
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  favorite that I'm going with is because I love everything.
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  It stands for. But what it's tied with I'll get
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  to it, but my second favorite quote is from Luke Skywalker
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  himself in Return of the Jedi, when he says, after he tosses
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  that lightsaber. Never, I'll never turn to the
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  dark side. You failed your highness.
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  I am a Jedi like my father before me.
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  That's my second one too. No shit isn't really the fuck
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  up. I do not expect But your it is
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  that's that's 100% my shut up. Well, let's talk about why it's
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  so good. We did not turn this back,
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  obviously a moment girl. I got it's so good though.
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  It is. It's just it's like yes, I'm so
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  glad this is yours to. Yeah, it's so good.
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  I mean, if you're not familiar with Star Wars out there just
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  look up. This moment, you don't.
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  Need to see all three movies. I mean, you should, but just
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  look this up, because look it up if you have seen Star Wars
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  because it gives you a moment of power.
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  It's everything that Star Wars is and how like, how Mark Hamill
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  was able to do that with a straight face and like give it
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  so much depth of meaning. Even though it's yeah, kind of
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  like a little bit dramatic, like a little melodramatic.
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  He does it. So beautifully controls his
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  voice. You could go in there like never
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  bitch. I'll never Turn to the dark
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  side. You dumbass.
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  I mean obviously they're not going to swear but like he could
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  have put more sass into it, but just like Luke Skywalker.
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  He's controlled. He's and he's even polite.
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  He says you failed your highness, period, Point Blank,
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  period? You failed your highness.
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  I'm a Jedi like my father before me who he's laying on the ground
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  or maybe he stands like the Monica Light little bitch slap
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  ever. And it's like, I'm so glad you
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  tried for the past how many decades to Pretend that this man
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  wasn't a Jedi, but guess what? Yeah, I just reminded everyone
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  in this room that he was. Yeah, I love the cinematography
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  and that moment to because all through that scene Luke's face
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  is like mostly in Shadow. Yeah.
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  And he as he says never and stands up straight and he throws
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  the lightsaber and takes a step forward and his faces in all
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  light. Yes.
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  And that's when he's first time fully lit.
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  All light, completely committed to the Light Side.
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  Yes, That's when his little collar has fallen open and you
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  see the light interior of his collar and a shirt, you know,
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  and it's just like all these little things that make it so
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  perfect. It's the poignancy of it all.
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  It's just, it's such a beautiful moment and like, I don't feel
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  like any other actor could have done it, quite perfectly, like,
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  Marquette was so perfect in that moment.
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  Yes. And it's such a good moment,
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  it's just like finally, Luke is just in his full power to stand
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  there and is like is willing to accept whatever is coming
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  because you can't say something like that and expect it to go.
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  Well, for you. Oh no, not at all.
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  I just I don't, it's just it's all that sum of all the parts,
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  right? But this big moment and and
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  like, I love how he stands up. I mean, he straightens his back.
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  I mean he's like you said committed that?
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  Yeah, it's so good. I'm so proud of our boy in that
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  moment. Can you imagine Vader laying
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  there just like the fuck? The kids stood up for me.
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  Someone stood up for me like finally.
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  Yeah. After being a doormat for 40
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  years. I wonder if he was afraid for
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  him. Oh without a doubt.
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  I mean it took him a terribly knew what was coming?
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  Yeah. I mean it took it took him a
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  second. He did the whole like head turn,
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  you know, the they focus. I love that part though.
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  He's looking at Luke and then he turns his head and he's looking
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  at Palpatine and he turns his head like in this whole thing
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  like you know the Cinematic of it all.
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  Yeah, this the Cinematic traits of it all, but when you just
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  need to like lightning reflecting off of his helmet
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  helmet. Yeah, it's really good.
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  It's really good. It was probably a lot for him to
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  process. Yeah.
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  That was the moment. It was like the fork in the road
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  right there. It's like you're either gonna
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  let history repeat itself or you gonna do something different and
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  save this person and he finally made the right choice.
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  Yeah, I don't lady broke so long long time, right?
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  But it took his Is damn, son. His kid.
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  Yeah, a reflection of his wife. It's so good.
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  It's particularly poignant because, you know, previously
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  when he'd had encounters with Luke, he was trying to turn him
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  for his own benefit and it took like pushing all of the
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  characters to this moments that Anakin was finally in mentally
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  the right place. Hmm.
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  Because before he would have just been trying to save Luke
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  for selfish reasons. Yeah.
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  And now he's saving him because this Wrong and I can't let this
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  happen and he hasn't made a decision like that since he was
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  a Jedi, you know, right. Twenty years ago or however long
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  it was and in the Clone Wars probably was one of the last
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  times he made a decision like that, you know, in my head
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  Canon, I like to think maybe he saw a bit of padmé in there son.
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  Mmm, standing up for what was right Against All Odds.
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  Mmm. And like, if he had a chance
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  again, he wouldn't allow his wife to die and that was a piece
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  of his wife. Wife.
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  Yeah. Not that he's not saving Luke
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  but like it's the only connection to their family
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  structure that he wanted so badly.
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  Anyway. Yeah.
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  And here's like a representation of what he as a Jedi knight in
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  the Clone Wars represented and what Padme in the Senate
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  represented. And, you know, we just had a
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  long conversation in our episode from last week about why Padme
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  was so wonderful because she stood up for the I mean, against
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  whatever came at her, she always tried to do the right.
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  And so, I like to think in my head Canon that he was reminded
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  of that in that moment as well. Like it was probably I don't
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  like the head turn of him. Like, do I save my son or not?
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  I don't think it's that. I like to think like I have a
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  lot of emotions right now that I haven't processed for about 40
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  years, but I'm going to throw this guy over the balcony anyway
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  because I fucking hate him and that's my son.
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  It's the hesitation for me, that's the 40 Years of.
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  I haven't been able to process any of my emotions and now it's
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  now or never like, well, maybe part of it is that, like, he
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  could never have gotten away with it before Palpatine.
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  Would have always seen him coming and right now he's a
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  little distracted through just a little.
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  Yeah. And because Vader gets up, drags
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  himself up and walks over next to him.
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  He thinks, yeah, my dog is back where he's supposed to be on his
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  way. Leash.
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  And so he's not even paying attention.
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  So it's like the, it's like now or never.
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  Literally, like, if I don't do it now, there's never gonna be
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  another chance to break free of this guy.
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  Yeah, it's a great moment and to do it for his son, I just love
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  it. So, what was your tie?
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  My tie. It doesn't compare to this, but
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  it is one of my favorite quotes if we're just doing it for
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  quotes, and not like the, like we said, like the whole scene.
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  Mmm, it's actually Padme. So this is how democracy dies,
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  right? With thunderous Applause.
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  Yes, that always gives me chills and she says it like with the
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  the one-time Natalie Portman betrays, something rather
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  perfectly sorry Nat but she does like the like cocky shoulder
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  head thing. Like because everyone's just
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  buying into the bullshit except for her bail.
• 21:01
  Well, who's with her? Yeah.
• 21:03
  So this is how it ends with thunderous Applause.
• 21:05
  And like, if that isn't representative of nowadays, I
• 21:10
  don't know what is so, I like that, quote, the quote a lot,
• 21:13
  because it's very applicable. Yeah, and I do think about that
• 21:17
  often. Every time I see that gift or
• 21:19
  like something with a meme when it like that, I always want to
• 21:22
  cheer because it's, who on point for nowadays.
• 21:26
  So yeah, yeah. It's particularly chilling in
• 21:29
  our current political. Climate, yes.
• 21:33
  So, I mean, while there's no competition with the massiveness
• 21:37
  of Luke's, you know, but if we only had to choose to it's
• 21:39
  definitely I would throw that in there as an honorable mention.
• 21:42
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:43
  That one is good. The one that I the my like it's
• 21:46
  not even at. I just something that I do
• 21:48
  deeply love. And again it's not like these
• 21:50
  other moments where they're more like yeah meaningful.
• 21:53
  But I guess it is kind of I love the scene between Luke and Leia.
• 21:57
  When he's saying the force is strong.
• 21:59
  In my family, I have it. My father has it in my My sister
• 22:02
  has it and that is just so beautiful, so good.
• 22:07
  Like, you're my sister. And I was like, love.
• 22:11
  It's an important moment where they start to, like, really
• 22:14
  realize how connected they are. And I just love that quiet, soft
• 22:19
  conversation, Luke talks, like a normal person, kind of, he does
• 22:23
  lay is the only one that he can really talk to like that.
• 22:26
  And that, and we even see that in other ways, maybe even in the
• 22:30
  sequel Trilogy. Like, they're the only, It can
• 22:32
  they can level with each other. Yeah.
• 22:34
  They're they're honest with one another even in a way that Han
• 22:37
  and Leia can't be and Han and Luke like they all have very
• 22:40
  special relationships but they do Luke and Leia have that level
• 22:45
  of being action Stars next to each other.
• 22:48
  But also, having these deeply personal conversations, like,
• 22:52
  you know, Han and Luke really care about each other.
• 22:55
  But you've never see a moment where they have, like a quiet
• 22:58
  deep conversation with each other.
• 23:00
  I don't know if Hot whatever. Even allow a moment like that
• 23:03
  with another person. I know the closest you get is
• 23:06
  him with his son, really and then there's that short
• 23:09
  conversation with Leia in force awakens.
• 23:12
  Hmm, I just love that very personal moment for both of them
• 23:16
  where he wants to hear about his mother and she's having these
• 23:20
  like realizations like wait, if Vader's your father that means
• 23:24
  he's also my father. Like what?
• 23:26
  Right. Yeah.
• 23:27
  And she that is not easy for her to swallow no at all.
• 23:31
  All. I mean, I mean he actually
• 23:34
  physically tortured her in a new hope.
• 23:36
  They cut that scene out of the movie Opera.
• 23:39
  Yes, that also, that's kind of a big thing, everyone.
• 23:42
  She loves made her watch. Yeah.
• 23:45
  It was not a good entry was not a good introduction.
• 23:50
  Yeah. To one another and she had to
• 23:52
  live with that. That's I mean, it's essentially
• 23:54
  why she didn't really use the force willingly.
• 23:57
  I mean, she trained for a while we know that, but it was why she
• 24:00
  abandoned it too. Yeah, I'm just Just if there was
• 24:02
  a chance of her turning into Vader, she wanted nothing to do
• 24:04
  with it, you know. Yeah, very, it's very beautiful
• 24:08
  moment but it also has all these layers of meaning it's not.
• 24:12
  That's what I love about Star Wars is, it's always kind of
• 24:15
  Bittersweet. There's this beautiful thing as
• 24:17
  depth and then there's this like horrible realization of your
• 24:21
  truth and your reality that comes with that.
• 24:24
  That's why we love all the pain. That's why we're here.
• 24:29
  So we love just suffer. Actually the quote was never
• 24:36
  hate leads to suffering and Star Wars leads to suffering.
• 24:40
  Forget, forget hate and it does Li love.
• 24:43
  Yeah. Well, a lot of people, they feel
• 24:45
  lot of hate about Star Wars, but well, that's true too.
• 24:49
  I'm probably going to get some hate for my least favorite.
• 24:53
  Quote Choice. Oh, well, I'm we probably both
• 24:56
  will. It's fine.
• 24:58
  Well, what's your least favorite?
• 24:59
  Now I'm desperate to hear. I have, I the minute I heard
• 25:04
  this in the theater, I damn near got up and walked out.
• 25:08
  I was at that point. Anyway, at this point, for other
• 25:12
  reasons, but I was just like, are you serious?
• 25:16
  Okay, it's in the Last Jedi and this has nothing to do with
• 25:22
  Kelly. Marie Tran, okay?
• 25:24
  It's the writing, not the actress is she's adorable, quote
• 25:28
  is I love her. Yeah, she's no hate to her.
• 25:31
  Ever, but it is her line and it is, that's how we're going to
• 25:36
  win this, not fighting what we hate saving, what we love that
• 25:41
  really made my skin crawl. I get, I get what they were
• 25:46
  trying to do with that, but it fell flat and it is enough, so
• 25:51
  wrong. God, I've know where that just
• 25:54
  is opening up a whole other thing of, like, things wrong
• 25:57
  with that movie. But there's, there's so many
• 25:59
  examples of why this This quote is just wrong.
• 26:03
  Like, yeah, I just got done saying that.
• 26:06
  You don't want to hate anything, but when something threatens
• 26:09
  something you love, right? Yeah.
• 26:11
  You have to fight against something that's threatening
• 26:14
  what you love. I mean, it also kind of plays on
• 26:17
  like, femininity is saving. What we love and masculinity is
• 26:20
  fighting, which I also don't like mmm.
• 26:23
  Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love.
• 26:25
  Okay, but you can do, you can do both.
• 26:28
  It's not it's not like one or the other.
• 26:30
  Yeah, it's Simplistic. I just really hate it and I
• 26:34
  really hate like the moment it was awkward.
• 26:37
  It was weak. It was too fluffy for whatever,
• 26:40
  and then, and then it was made worse because that actual
• 26:43
  relationship that she wanted with Finn never went anywhere.
• 26:46
  And so that fell flat as well. And the whole thing is a mess.
• 26:49
  I just when I heard that I was just like really though it's one
• 26:53
  of the many things in the sequel's were it just comes out
• 26:56
  of fucking nowhere and then doesn't do anything.
• 27:01
  Yeah. I just, Mmm.
• 27:03
  Yeah, that's cringey. It's real cringey.
• 27:07
  Mine is much simpler. What is it?
• 27:11
  Mine is the same moment that we talked about earlier with Luke
• 27:15
  and Vader. And the emperor yet how in the
• 27:18
  new edits they added Vader. Going no.
• 27:25
  I hate it so much. I hate it so much.
• 27:30
  It's like doubling down on something that's bad to begin
• 27:35
  with Vader. Waking up and going.
• 27:37
  Where's Pat? Maher.
• 27:38
  Is she all right? And then stepping to the edge of
• 27:41
  the platform and going wrong. It's so fucking stupid and then
• 27:47
  it's pretty bad. Was like George, Lucas being
• 27:49
  like. Well you didn't like it there,
• 27:50
  guess what? I'm gonna add it to the best
• 27:52
  scene of Star Wars and see what you think that's Yeah, it was,
• 27:56
  that's not a good choice, not a good choice.
• 27:59
  It causes me physical pain every time I because I forget it's in
• 28:03
  there when I'm watching it on Disney plus I forget and then
• 28:06
  the end of that scene comes up and Vader screams.
• 28:09
  No, and I just hate it. So yeah, it's yeah.
• 28:13
  It's it was a bad choice. It was really bad.
• 28:17
  It's embarrassing to a see. I'm like, I'm embarrassed for
• 28:22
  the movies sake. Like Like it's just leave it
• 28:27
  alone. I want to just save it from that
• 28:29
  self. Like yeah why did you touch
• 28:30
  something? That was perfect.
• 28:32
  What you want to throw it away? Wow I want to take this moving,
• 28:35
  throw it off a balcony. Yeah then like I don't I also
• 28:40
  really dislike the I don't like sand line.
• 28:44
  Well that's just that's implied. It's really awful and pointless
• 28:49
  and terrible and it's but you know, my second most cringy like
• 28:54
  worse. Quote is it's also in Attack of
• 28:57
  the attack of the Clones. It's when Anakin and padmé or by
• 29:01
  the fire and it my God, you're dead.
• 29:03
  Yes. That was the tie for the.
• 29:04
  I don't like sand conversation to me.
• 29:07
  The whole conversation could just be thrown into the fire and
• 29:10
  never never remembered again, but it's the part of believe me.
• 29:13
  I wish I could just wish away my feelings.
• 29:16
  Anakin honey. I love you, but I wish I could
• 29:21
  just wish away my feelings, bitch, you can't.
• 29:24
  Can't use wish twice when you're trying to say you could, you
• 29:28
  would you don't understand what wish me.
• 29:30
  I wish I could wish, but I can't wish.
• 29:33
  So I wish I can twist because I don't that's right out there but
• 29:39
  they really shitty dialogue and Revenge of the Sith where she's
• 29:44
  like fake brushing her hair at first of all.
• 29:47
  Oh you know brush curls, you don't brush them.
• 29:50
  You don't blush Crush girls. Okay.
• 29:52
  She's standing. Those kind of curls.
• 29:54
  No, not Hers, not the ones. She had.
• 29:56
  No, you don't touch this with a brush.
• 29:58
  She's brushing her hair and he says something like, I'm so in
• 30:02
  love with you and she's like, love has blinded you.
• 30:05
  It's just like the worst dialogue.
• 30:08
  You say like I love you but no, I love you more.
• 30:10
  It's one of those moments. I'm just like stopped.
• 30:13
  Yes, it is excruciating and it's not how people really talk to
• 30:18
  each other but no, yeah, it would have been it would have
• 30:22
  been okay if you just stood there, Don't lie, wistfully
• 30:26
  admiring. Her beauty.
• 30:27
  Yes. And said nothing at all.
• 30:29
  Yes, less is more. You ever have that moment?
• 30:31
  Where you just look at someone? Yeah, yeah.
• 30:34
  And you realize like how much you love them.
• 30:36
  And yes it's it's there's this line in Emma.
• 30:41
  The Jane Austen novel where the hero says to the heroin.
• 30:47
  If I Loved You Less. Maybe I could talk about it more
• 30:51
  and it's because his feelings are so strong he can can't even
• 30:55
  talk about it. Like he can't profusely confess
• 30:59
  his love because it's too valuable, it's to meaningful to
• 31:03
  give cheap language to it. That's that's actually
• 31:06
  beautiful. It is Jane Austen because Jane
• 31:09
  Austen is fucking Jane. Aurelius There's no competition
• 31:14
  Overture. Whoever wrote a tech, they were
• 31:17
  not Jane Austen, so was not done well and it was just fucking
• 31:25
  awful, you know. We don't want to, we don't want
• 31:28
  to be too negative but there you go.
• 31:30
  No no no. These are just lines that are
• 31:32
  just like come on or or just leave them out.
• 31:35
  Yeah. Well I posted something like
• 31:37
  that. The other day is like they cut
• 31:39
  out the scene from Revenge of the Sith were 0.
• 31:41
  B. 1 goes to pass. Add me and says like yes, I know
• 31:44
  that you've had these feelings and I was quiet about it because
• 31:47
  it was so meaningful and valuable to the two of you.
• 31:50
  They cut that scene but they leave in the scene where
• 31:53
  Anakin's talking about sand getting everywhere.
• 31:57
  Yes, being yeah, kitschy and Scratchy.
• 32:01
  I saw what you put on Instagram that quote is wonderful, and
• 32:05
  would have added so much, because we all knew Obi-Wan knew
• 32:10
  about them. Yeah.
• 32:11
  He also respected Loved the both of them and it was probably very
• 32:15
  hard for him to look away but he knew because he'd been through
• 32:17
  it. Yes.
• 32:18
  And it shows how much he cared about Anakin that.
• 32:22
  He absolutely. I don't know why.
• 32:24
  It wasn't left in. It was so important to him that
• 32:27
  Anakin was happy. He turned a blind eye because he
• 32:30
  just wanted his Padawan to have something that brought him joy
• 32:34
  and and balance had met could do what?
• 32:36
  No one else could. Yeah.
• 32:38
  In helping Anakin be that happy. Ultimately it was the biggest
• 32:41
  mistake. Out of all of them, but like,
• 32:44
  that's what made it an even more powerful.
• 32:47
  See. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 32:49
  Well, there you have it, folks, where's leads?
• 32:54
  Yeah. Star Wars leads to suffering.
• 32:56
  Thanks for joining us. All right.
• 33:05
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• 33:06
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• 33:08
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• 33:12
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• 33:16
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• 33:20
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• 33:23
  Yes, I've heard some some stuff in the passing.
• 33:27
  One of the worst lines is the Palpatine return somehow is one
• 33:31
  of the most, a lot of people. I mean, it was that was clunky,
• 33:33
  that was terribly. I mean, no, no offense to Oscar
• 33:36
  Isaac. Obviously.
• 33:37
  But like, how do you deliver a line like that?
• 33:40
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• 33:56
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• 34:01
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• 34:04
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• 34:08
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• 34:11
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• 34:51
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• 34:59
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• 35:02
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• 35:06
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• 35:08
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• 35:13
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