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Fred Taylor · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Thanks real, welcome to Busting with the Boys. I was
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  Speaker 1: just talking to our one of our fearless Workerman leaders,
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  Speaker 1: a videographer, Jack McPherson, about his new segment shout out,
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  Speaker 1: no free shout out out of the week, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we're just a little too much language though, right, boys,
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna go shout up, shout out of the week,
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  Speaker 1: shout out of the week, and I think you guys
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  Speaker 1: are all gonna enjoy it. The boys are going to
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  Speaker 1: take part. But before we get into that, we need
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  Speaker 1: to talk about something very important. And I had a
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  Speaker 1: little adversity before we got on the pod with UH.
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  Speaker 1: I like it when my timers up and the timer
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  Speaker 1: wasn't up and JP really let me down on that.
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  Speaker 1: But now Jack, taking the reins from JP, said go
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  Speaker 1: to Google and put the thing in so big shout
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  Speaker 1: out and no free shouts to Jack, it's not part
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  Speaker 1: of the segment. But we are not gonna have any
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  Speaker 1: a tough day the work. Still it needs to get done,
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  Speaker 1: easy in and out. My baby's available industry first power up,
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  Speaker 1: down tailgate. Everyone's got the down. Everyone thinks they're they're
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  Speaker 1: dope for that, but they don't have the up. And
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  Speaker 1: then you gotta waste your time. You get back in
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  Speaker 1: your driver's seat, you're like, damn bro, and so you
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  Speaker 1: got to open the door, back up, walk around, get
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  Speaker 1: to that tailgate. You got to put it back up.
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  Speaker 1: With the Chevy Silverado, you don't have those issues anymore available.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I just said that, so I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 1: it again. Or the available multi flex tailgate we've been
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  Speaker 1: telling you about with six convenient configurations. When I get
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  Speaker 1: two sea big words with me, I have a tough
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  Speaker 1: time with it.
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  Speaker 1: This makes the best bed of the Silverada. Wait all,
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  Speaker 1: this makes the bed of the Silverado work harder and smarter. Silverado.
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  Speaker 1: It's strong, advanced, dependable, and hard working. Now, listen, boys,
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  Speaker 1: I think that went fantastic. I don't want to thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. One for the boy, one for the boy.
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  Speaker 1: And you're wondering, where's where's Will? Where's Will Compton at?
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  Speaker 1: Where's where's the guy with the most beautiful teeth at
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  Speaker 1: this side of the Mississippi, the man who's powering through
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  Speaker 1: possibly a year or ten in the NFL, A man
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  Speaker 1: that gives his heart and soul of this podcast every week.
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  Speaker 1: And there's only really one answer for that. It's because
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  Speaker 1: we're still on Baby Watch Baby wach here we go,
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  Speaker 1: baby baby baby.
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  Speaker 2: What that's right?
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  Speaker 1: Will Compton Compton and Charles Compton used to be called
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  Speaker 1: Bishop is still waiting on their beautiful little girl, which
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  Speaker 1: he has not told me the name of yet, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of frustrating. He has not had that child yet,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going down the road. I know what moms
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  Speaker 1: are thinking right now. Anyone who's had a child before,
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  Speaker 1: they know that last month, and I'm looking in the
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  Speaker 1: back to a bunch of guys that don't have kids
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  Speaker 1: that last month. Every week, another pound comes, another pound comes,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a little stressful.
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  Speaker 2: You're uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: You got that U Sha pillow that maybe Will stealing
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  Speaker 1: because I sold that from my wife because that's a
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  Speaker 1: good snuggle buddy. And it's at this point you're just
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  Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. You've got nothing to do with it. It's
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  Speaker 1: so frustrating. Listen up, I'm sure, and I'm hoping to god.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday right now. Let's hit the Wednesday. When Wednesday hits,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully that baby is born, healthy, happy, mom's safe. Will
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  Speaker 1: gets a good old fashioned crying and we can all
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  Speaker 1: celebrate with him on our social media platforms of our choosing.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of social media, YouTube, you guys have absolutely murdered it.
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  Speaker 1: The Brandon Show YouTube video came out and Will's got
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  Speaker 1: all the numbers all the time, and he bounces it
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  Speaker 1: back and forth, barstol because he's the numbers guy, he
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  Speaker 1: writes stuff down. I'm not a big numbers guy writing
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  Speaker 1: stuff down, guy, But the YouTube, the numbers, we're in
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  Speaker 1: the six figures. Boys, we're in the six figures right now.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a big deal. And it's all the viewers.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't be anything without you, guys, right, be a
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  Speaker 1: couple dipshits to sit in here talking about god knows
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  Speaker 1: what while no one listens to us. What you need
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  Speaker 1: to do to keep this train going into the stratosphere.
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  Speaker 1: The train is a bad one, getting this rocket ship
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  Speaker 1: to shoot into the atmosphere is I need you to
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  Speaker 1: go to YouTube, go to your audio, which everyone whether
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  Speaker 1: it's Spotify, Apple. That's the best thing about us, baby,
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  Speaker 1: We're everywhere. We're absolutely everywhere. You need to go subscribe
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  Speaker 1: and then do a little secret unsubscribe and resubscribe and
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  Speaker 1: you doing that along with the comments, the engagement following
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  Speaker 1: busting on Instagram, on we have Facebook, correct Facebook, we
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  Speaker 1: have a TikTok too, we hat a Twitter, all of
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  Speaker 1: those things, you guys follow engage. It just helps the
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  Speaker 1: numbers go up, It helps more. I seeing it. It's
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  Speaker 1: a shameless ask, is what it is. But I'm over
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  Speaker 1: here just a man on having a prey right now,
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  Speaker 1: hoping to God that you guys pick it up. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it goes in your ear and it comes out your
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  Speaker 1: mouth and onto your fingertips and you go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: do those things for us. We love you guys so
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  Speaker 1: much it's unbelievable. Now we have a new little fun
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  Speaker 1: segment for you guys this week, a little cough, a
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  Speaker 1: new fun segment.
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  Speaker 2: It's called shout Out of the Week, no free shoutouts. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The issue with shout Out of the Week no free
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  Speaker 1: shoutouts is every week's a new week, so there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a different person every single time. All right, that
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  Speaker 1: person you shout it out last week, you may no
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  Speaker 1: longer want to shout out. And here's the thing about
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  Speaker 1: this thing the bus is if you have an opinion
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  Speaker 1: about something being bang boom, baby, you can go back
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  Speaker 1: on that thing one to eighty and I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that someday. You know, your boy, I had
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  Speaker 1: to flip flop sides or you like I'm flapjacks.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I had them things a little crispy, and sometimes one's
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  Speaker 1: a little more cooked than the other. So let's start
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  Speaker 1: with shout out, no free shout out of the weeks,
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  Speaker 1: the sorry shout out no free shoutouts of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with the boys, Bloss, please hit me with
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  Speaker 1: your shout out no free shut out of the week.
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  Speaker 4: So my shot out of the week this week, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if he saw me tweet about it was
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  Speaker 4: actually to George Kittle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh forty nine ers guy who would.
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  Speaker 4: Have thought, yeah, a little bias, little bias, Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason being is I've never seen anybody take
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  Speaker 4: so much time responding to like all his fans and
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  Speaker 4: wishing them a happy birthday. You could go on his
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  Speaker 4: Twitter and just scroll on all the people he replies
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  Speaker 4: to and wishes them a happy birthday.
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  Speaker 2: So my free shout out goes to George Kittle, the
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  Speaker 2: George Kittle, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: George Kittle an amazing human being, an absolute talent on
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  Speaker 1: the field, a great guy, and the people signed in
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  Speaker 1: for a reason.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's out there.
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  Speaker 1: He's only out there shaking hand kissing babies in public,
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  Speaker 1: but he's doing the same thing on the social media.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that about you, Bloss.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Way to stick to your roots
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  Speaker 1: on that JP. What do you got for us on
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  Speaker 1: the shout out and no free shot out of the week?
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  Speaker 6: Mine goes to not a person but a country.
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  Speaker 7: Oh okay, I would like to shout out in Japan Japan.
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  Speaker 6: One okay, one for the cuisine.
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  Speaker 2: All right, got a love.
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  Speaker 7: They dropped the video, the full audio video of Will
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  Speaker 7: Smith and Chris Rock.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, shout out Japan, shout out Ja, the country of Japan. Man,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely unreal. Got a little shaky with them back in
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  Speaker 1: the thirties and four or forties.
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  Speaker 2: Am I right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Now we're back, Baby, We're back because you want the
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  Speaker 1: whole video. A wild deal, the the Will Smith thing,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Rock. We'll get to that in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Outstanding shut out, no free shot outs of the week,
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  Speaker 1: dak What do we got for your shout.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the week? My boy?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 5: Mine's not a person nor a country, but an activity.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we're just gonna hit them all today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I think that should be the
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  Speaker 3: thing too with this.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just specific to one aspect of life for
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  Speaker 5: a person, but mine is eating.
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  Speaker 2: Out alone.
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  Speaker 1: Solid.
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  Speaker 5: Last night I went hit up a local spot, Nobles
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  Speaker 5: in the East, got out in the wings, got a
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  Speaker 5: couple of beers and just you know, enjoyed the silence
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  Speaker 5: of myself and all yourself. It's just kind of one
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  Speaker 5: of those things you take it back and you know
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  Speaker 5: it's just is a beautiful feeling. There's nothing else to
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  Speaker 5: describe it. So, yeah, shouting out, no free shout outs,
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  Speaker 5: eating alone.
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  Speaker 1: God, eating alone is something special too. He used to
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  Speaker 1: go back in the days at Benny's, no free shoutouts
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  Speaker 1: and ann arbor a little breakfast on Saturday mornings, nursing
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  Speaker 1: that little hangover and have a little time to yourself,
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  Speaker 1: eating them grits, eating them potatoes, eating them them eggs.
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  Speaker 1: The fire deal recharges the batteries. That's a great shout out,
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  Speaker 1: free shadowt of the week. Yeah, you gotta get right
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  Speaker 1: with yourself where you can get right with the world.
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  Speaker 2: No question. Hey, I love that, Hey shout out. Oh
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  Speaker 2: that's that's stabbor clapper.
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  Speaker 1: But we're stapping and clapping and for the jack on
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  Speaker 1: that one. And ideas man an ideas. Man I like it. Garrett,
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  Speaker 1: What do you got for your shout out? No free
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  Speaker 1: shadout of the week.
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  Speaker 8: All right, my free shot out is going to go
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  Speaker 8: to the poll. The premiere Lacrosse League for joining ESPN.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's pretty big news. Big news in two
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  Speaker 8: thousand and one the first oh bluss tell me to
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  Speaker 8: scoot back?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, scoop back a little bit. Hey, I'm all right, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: think about Garrett, folks, he.
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  Speaker 1: Gets more beautiful. He is boss wants them to get
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: I like that, all right, So shout out to the
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  Speaker 8: Premier Lacrosse League because in two thousand and one the
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  Speaker 8: MLL was a thing, but nobody knew that there was
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  Speaker 8: professional Lacrosse's beautiful. We've now joined ESPN to say we
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  Speaker 8: like I'm no, I did it?
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  Speaker 1: Hey once a lacrosse are always a cross are my right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a stutter in the words, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: But no, it's a big deal. All forty seven games
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  Speaker 8: will be on ESPN. So tune into ESPN this spring
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  Speaker 8: and watch the best sport on two feet.
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  Speaker 2: God outstanding.
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  Speaker 1: Just a bunch of men with sticks and balls chasing
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  Speaker 1: each other around an absolute jaw dropping eat about it
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  Speaker 1: here time you step onto la crossfield, it's unbelievable. The hacking,
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  Speaker 1: the chirping, it's basically hockey on your shoes, yeah, on
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  Speaker 1: grass on your grass on your shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Right, We're not grounding, we're not barefoot out there, but
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  Speaker 1: it's outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, shout out, no free.
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  Speaker 1: Shoutouts lacross everybody, just the entire sport. You guys in
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  Speaker 1: the Northeast are absolutely loving that one right now. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously I'm the last one on this bus moment of sound,
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  Speaker 1: for will not be able to do the first shot
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  Speaker 1: out of the week.
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  Speaker 2: He will be missed.
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  Speaker 1: However, my shout out came last night and I know
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  Speaker 1: we're all we're going to talk about it in a second,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not picking sides here. I might pick sides
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  Speaker 1: swords to this thing because I'm a flip floppy bastard,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier. But a shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Chris Rock for absolutely taking the most disrespectful thing you
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  Speaker 1: can possibly get in your entire life, which is an
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  Speaker 1: open hand slap from another man. All of us here
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  Speaker 1: have been once in our life punched, pushed, or poke
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  Speaker 1: and when you are any of those things, there's a
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  Speaker 1: fire that burns inside you. I don't care if you're beata,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're out for somewhere in between,
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  Speaker 1: every time you feel that feeling, it's like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: kill somebody right now. I want to absolutely murder this person.
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  Speaker 1: Will Smith definitely has taken a punching class or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. He had two feet strongly sturdily on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: He wound up quick, but he came fast. That man
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  Speaker 1: in his fifties has the fast twitch of a cat.
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  Speaker 2: It was unreal.
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  Speaker 1: Chris takes this thing like an absolute movie scene, hits it,
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  Speaker 1: kinks back and comes and he just goes. Will Smith
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  Speaker 1: slapped the shit out of me. Now here's where the
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  Speaker 1: shoutout actually comes in for me, the fact.
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  Speaker 2: That my man ate it.
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  Speaker 1: Blood's boiling right now right, I don't know what temperature
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  Speaker 1: it boils at, but it's definitely at that Fahrenhearer self Celsius.
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  Speaker 2: Will Smith walks away. He is rattled. He doesn't know
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  Speaker 2: where to go with himself.
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  Speaker 1: Then the man Will Smith says to him, keep my
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  Speaker 1: mind my wife's name out your fucking mouth. Not once,
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  Speaker 1: but twice. He doubled down on that thing, and this
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  Speaker 1: man handled it. I won't talk about your wife anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Stuttered through the documentary the documentary, and then he rattled
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  Speaker 1: through the Netflix joke, which we all probably would have
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  Speaker 1: loved if there wasn't just an absolute assault case happening
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  Speaker 1: right in front of us. But ate it was a
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  Speaker 1: professional and got to the next frame, got to the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing what he was there to do, which was
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  Speaker 1: present the documentaries.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to Chris Rock with absolute scud on
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  Speaker 2: eating that. And I feel like that's a decent pivot voice.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get a couple of reactions, and I
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  Speaker 1: want a little back and forth here if he could
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  Speaker 1: what we just talked about, whose side are we taking
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  Speaker 1: right now? I know lost in the back, he's thinking
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  Speaker 1: that's a salt brother. He's a cop. You know, he'd
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  Speaker 1: have his ass pinned down pepper strate in no time. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Cuff him the bad way too, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even lock that thing. So he jiggles around
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and gets a little tighter, which happened
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  Speaker 1: to the Fred Taylor podcast, which will you will hear
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  Speaker 1: in just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: But Gary, you got the mic first, Let's see what
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  Speaker 2: you think.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not picking sides, but back to your form on
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  Speaker 8: Will Smith's little right, Yep, he did play Ali in
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  Speaker 8: a movie in two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 2: There it is. That had to be the reason why.
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  Speaker 2: Right is I am legend?
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  Speaker 3: So he is?
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  Speaker 1: And then man, he's tactical in that movie as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right he's a blind guy in that movie. Right, you
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  Speaker 1: got to have your senses. I'm taking fly Is I
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  Speaker 1: am legend?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, I'm legend. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking Book of VLI, which was Denzel Washington.
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  Speaker 3: That's on me.
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  Speaker 2: Boys, both great actors, both great actors. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: upset with my fault at all in that one.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm taking sides, and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: On Chris Rock.
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  Speaker 5: Chris Rock, it'd be different if he'd laid a joke
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  Speaker 5: down that was like really disrespectful, but it was an
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  Speaker 5: al a piece of joke, like you don't have hair,
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  Speaker 5: you have a condition, you can't go hair. That's gonna
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  Speaker 5: warrant you coming in and slapping a grown man on
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  Speaker 5: Like it just seems a little soft for me, and
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  Speaker 5: like we were kind of talking about it before here,
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  Speaker 5: but Will Smith's kind of been on.
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  Speaker 1: This roller coaster for the last two years, not just
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  Speaker 1: not just himself but him and his wife as.
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  Speaker 5: Well, literally, and she's done nothing to respect him. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: she's you know, been cheating and doing whatever, Yeah, entanglements,
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  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden he's out here defending
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  Speaker 5: her honor.
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  Speaker 2: It just seemed a little shaky.
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  Speaker 5: So but yeah, the way that Chris Rock handled himself
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  Speaker 5: just kind of took a moment was like that happened,
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  Speaker 5: and he's like, all right, well, we're gonna move on.
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  Speaker 5: And true professional cannot wait for his next stand up
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  Speaker 5: to come out because it's gonna be probably a heater.
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  Speaker 1: So it's probably gonna be a heater. Yeah, the greatest ninth
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  Speaker 1: in television.
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  Speaker 2: Absolute.
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  Speaker 1: He said that, I think that you gotta give a
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  Speaker 1: shout out too to Will Smith going on winning what
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  Speaker 1: Male Actor of the Year, And yeah, he listened. His
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  Speaker 1: two minutes and thirty second speech was a little shaky.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: That plane was tough to land. I'm not sure he
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: really did land it, but damn he got up there,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: tears in the eyes. You know, his emotions are all
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: over the place. He knows he messed up a little
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: bit by doing that. Right, you want to defend on her,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Go about it.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't open the Handsmack a guy at all but
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: you know, when there's a live performance going on one
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: of the biggest nights in all of movies and entertainment,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: probably not the best time to do it.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: JP, what side are we on, baby, I kind.
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: Of have a I'm kind of on the side of
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: maybe it was fake.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I leaned up in the steed on
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I just think.
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, like, Jack was saying so much stuff has
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: happened with his wife that he's never come at somebody,
• 14:36
  Speaker 7: and then this happens, and it's like, you're that room
• 14:40
  Speaker 7: is full of the best actors in the world.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: True, So you roll up there.
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: The Oscars ratings have been down, it's been a mess,
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: and then now everyone's buzzing.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, the boy's got a bit of a conspiracy theory
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: going on right now. And let me scratch in the
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: back of my head thinking about that.
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, the deal depends the only reason I
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: think it might be real.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can understand that. But him is
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: dropping a couple f bombs in that thing too. It's
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: gotta be tough to think that that was fake. It's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: got to be tough. The propisia thing, or what is it,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: propicia alopecia Propicia's when you save the hair, right, I
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: think there's a pill you can take. Will's been looking,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: he's been googling the whole thing. He's been going, Hey,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: you can't shoot the boy down one. I mean, what
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: am I doing, dude? What am I doing?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Right now? That's terrible?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: But I think you know, listen, she might be super
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: insecure about it. I'll tell you what. What's her name, Jada.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: She's a gorgeous woman. Hair, no hair, wig, no wig,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: beautiful woman. She's an outstanding bone structure. Unless she's got
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: a glow to her. I don't think she should be
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: upset about the no hair. I think she looks phenomenal. Yeah,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: she used to be a tupac. I did not know that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Here you go, baby, you're making history two times in
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: a row, right, and well about a thirty year difference.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Wait to stay on the map, honey. I love it
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to death, Bloss, give us. I want two things from you, Bloss.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I want to know whose sides run as a pedestrian.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And I want to know what you're asked to know
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: and if you if you are in badging uniform in
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: LA that night last night, so.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out to my buddy Corey Coy, Yeah to elaborate.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he had.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: He had a cool quote that I kinda that I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: kind of took and I uh, I like reworded. It
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: was like, people will judge you for what you did,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: but not what happened to you that made you snap.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it was okay to handle that
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: situation that way, but it's something to think about. People
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: want to talk about, you know, what exactly happened, and.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I like that they don't want to talk about.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: The underlining issues and what got him to that point.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Something had to get him to that point, the snap,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: knowing that the world is watching on that stage and
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: knowing that his acting career could possibly never be the same.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: So the human side of me is thinking about that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and to that point, real quicke before you jump
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: on the police part, you know, when they showed him first,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: he did the g I, Jane two, Joe Chris Rock.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Did they pan over to Will Smith and Jada and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: he's got the smiles on. He's got them pearly whites
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in the air, right and he's smile and laughing. That's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a good sure, he likes it because that's what we're doing, right,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: We roast people a little bit. Whether it's the SP's
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the Oscars, that's kind of the deal. Now, something must
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: have happened in a transition where he looked at his wife.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: She was mad. Maybe maybe she said go do something.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not putting wounds in his mouth, right,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in his mouth. But I understand.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I understand that quote, and I like a little. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: like that on a Monday, that's nice, and for you listening,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: that's on Wednesday. But from a police officer standpoint, what
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: do you got from me? Bib Oh, that's the definition
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of assault right there.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: So what are you doing?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna make Are you gonna escalate the situation
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and go a restaum right there? You're gonna wait till
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: he closes, get a couple ushers to grab him.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in that in that moment, you just
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: you gotta know where you're at. You gotta know kind
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: of what's going on. You're not gonna go up on
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: stage and you're not gonna arrest him or do anything
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: like that, because first of all, he's got to want
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: to prosecute and knowing Chris Rock, He's probably not doing that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said he came out and said he
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: was not doing your team Chris for.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: That because he's like, you know, he might have crossed
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the line, might have crossed the line and probably understood
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: that and took that smack to the mouth and still
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: was like, nah, I don't it's We're good.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: You know, that's a man's man.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So that's a man's man.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Huh do you think do you think at any other
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: point they go settle in the back alley or something
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: like that? Maybe them too, because I Will Smith got
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a head and shoulders over that guy, you know what
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Usually the comedians are the next pay per
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: view fight. I like that rough and rowdy. Maybe Jake
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Paul puts one of those things on. Hell, Dana White
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: might even jump in right in the UFC. Get something
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: done there, send him over to Japan. Hit one of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: those little deals.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Get some sushi, carve up with the rice, get the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: protein with the fish, and have that in a kickboxing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: tournament or whatever they do of their no disrespect. Listen,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I love the shout out, no free shadow of the week, boys,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I think you all did a phenomenal job. Bloss thank
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you for giving us a little insight as a police officer.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: We talked about the Chevy Silverado. Now it's time to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: talk about what we're about to get into on this pod.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That's Fred Taylor. One more shout out for Fred Taylor.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I think he was outstanding. Obviously, you guys know Fred
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Taylor from being Will's words, not mine, the greatest Jacksonville
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Jaguar of all time. Now, this man during COVID or
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: right before COVID, decided to do a thing with imathlete
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: when Pivot was on before him Channing and well RC
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't a part of Iomathlete, but Channing was, and they
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: kind of dove into that. If you guys want to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: listen to that podcast after you've done listening to this,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you're more than welcome to and tell us what you think.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: They're a part of Iomathlete and they broke up for
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: whatever reason your opinions and decided to do a thing
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: called the Pivot. Now these boys are blowing up. Shout
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: out to the boys. I know we're clapping a lot
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: this episode, but there's a lot of love to give
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: out on this beautiful Wednesday morning, Fred comes on, talks
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: about his times in college, talks about him taking the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: bag from Georgia and dipping on him go Gators, giving
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: him them the chopp as he cruised out of there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Then we hit a little bit of what it was
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like in the NFL. I'll tell you right now, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: think the man's a party animal. When he was out there,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: he had two of his best games he's ever had.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: One of his biggest regrets was maybe I guess in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: turn drinking too much and cramping too much before a game.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But that's in the NFL. You know what I'm saying,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that you don't do ivs at halftime at that point.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's you guys for being a little bit behind.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Maybe I should jump up
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a little a little more progressive on IV therapies and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: making sure the body's right. Also on Fred for drinking
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: as much, But the man could have had a single
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: game or record. Am I right for the rushing? If
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm getting that right or wrong? Talk about his favorite
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: guests he'd like to have on or his wishless guests
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he'd like to have on his podcast, And let me
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: tell you right now, there's gonna be some people listening
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on here that's going to have a couple opinions on
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that thing, right because it gets a little political, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we choose not to do that. I'm busting with the boys.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Why because some of you guys watching our demies, some
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of you guys watching our repuppies. And at the end
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of the day, we're all just lovees, am I right,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We're all just trying to love these that's all we're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: trying to do, boys and girls. And if I start
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: picking sides with you, you might think different than me,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and vice versa. I'm not a big opinionated guy. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: kind of am, but not in this sense. So if
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you if you guys listen up, I think you're have
• 21:00
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• 21:02
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  Speaker 9: I fuck with whistle pig Bourbon. Yeah yeah, I do
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: a nice little old fashion with that. So those are dope.
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: Those are pretty good.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's whisky, your your go to.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I drank everything a boy. I don't want to sound
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: like I'm a lush, but I drank.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Every Yeah, what's a lush?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You know? You fucking drunk? Or wine or alcohol? Oh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: an alcoholic for any of it?
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: Like yeah, Like I can go to a party and
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, like what do you gotta drink? What
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: do you want to drink? Give me a hit and
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: scene and code? Now we ain't got in thee. Give
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: me Vodki and something. Now we ain't got vodka. Give
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: me some now we got that. Give me some wine.
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: Now we ain't got that. I'm gonna drink whatever.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: What bar are you going to that doesn't sell those things?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: We got that ever clear.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: You take a dude about, Hey, we just got everclare.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Let me get I ain't fucking with that. You get
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: a chaser with that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: If you go through these uh uh charity events, Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: it ain't top shelf all the time. It's just some
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: stuff to get the people through, right.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: And then a lot of times at the charity events
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: like we don't have that, we don't have that, all right,
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: give me you know whatever.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: The I'll take it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, usually you gotta do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I'll drink jack.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That's that college lifestyle in college. You kind of just drink.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Whatever because you ain't had no money.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Drinking a beer at one point. Then all of a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: sudden there's a big bull of something, right, and you're
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: drinking that. It's a way that's a blue color.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Right. The next time, you got bodcast and you'd make
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: up some.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: God hunch punch yes, and you wake up the next
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: morning like we're good.
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: So my uh my senior year, Jack Quais Green, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: we was getting ready to go pro.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So all of the other guys they were there. Nobody
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: had money.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: But we ended up going to South Carolina get our
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: our advance from our agent, the guy we signing went.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: We did like a fifty thousand advanced. Damn drove up
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: to We flew to Carolina almost died. The plane was
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: like that. It was like that. We got there a day.
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: We went to a spot was byob You go in there,
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: you see as tips, which you had to bring that, right,
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: So we we we lined that all up. We went
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: back to Gainesville by the cash. You know, we were
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: we were rich at that time. Yeah, we were good.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, you see fifty thousand dollars now, holy ship, right.
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: So all of our boys We ended up throwing a
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: big like this big old pool party. Drinks, strings, strings,
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: we had everything. But then we end up getting two
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: bottles of ever Clear and make the little spike punch,
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: the hunch punch with Hawaian punch, fire pineapples, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: just putting, cutting fruit, throwing it and there just you
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: can throw anything, throw it all in there.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Right. So the drunkest best college party we ever had?
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: What's that day?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I got it in the sounds like it was a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: phenomenal time. The drunkest I've ever been was not a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: phenomenal time. No, no, it's terrible. You don't remember it. No,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I remember party, I remember bits in pieces. It was
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a big deal. This girl tried, This girl got mad
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: at me, and then her boyfriend wanted to fight me,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but he didn't want to fight me, and he was
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: about for me to jack and I thought he was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: real up close, so I swung on him and the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: trash hands swing up on the threw up on the porch.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, there was actually three and they like pop
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the trunk on this guy, and I'm like, oh fuck,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: but I you know, my buddy puts me in the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: car and the next morning I wake up, and I'm like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: why are my pants all wet?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Pissed the bed, and so I go back and I
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: felt terrible. So I was like, like she woke up.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: The girl woke up at the morning, and I was
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like cleaning up where I threw up in their house.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: It was a house party.
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: It wasn't like a the guy was gonna fight his girlfriend.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Was his girlfriend's house party. And I threw up and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: then they tried to kick me out. And then, for
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, I thought throwing up at a house party
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was totally fine at that point and I shouldn't be
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: picked out. So I'm on the lawn and.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It always goes on the lawn. That's you know what's bad.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I'm on the lawn and I was fucking dude. It's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like him and his three buddies turns out the dudes
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like a semi professional boxer. I'm about to get I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: didn't even know about it, and I see this cat.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking. I put a haymaker on this dude on the.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Issue is just six feet away, So I fucking and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: then spin in a circle and knock out all their
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: trash cans. It was a fucking deal man. Wow, I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: felt bad the next morning, hungover.
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: You know it happens. It is college man college. Anything
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: is legal.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Just about that sounds a great yeah, sound like something
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like you got good.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You sounds like you got some good college stories.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: College was the ship man. College was so fucking good
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: man I went. I remember going into college my freshman year.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: I was the fastest gallon and team weird Flex the
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: fastest galloned team and uh, I know right.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And we went out for Halloween.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Best holiday ever, keep going.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Sorry, So we went out for Halloween. So our plans
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: was to go out and just throw eggs all the
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: frat houses. Yeah, bomb everybody with eggs. But instead of eggs,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: we were at the calf that day and they have
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: these little that little small baby pumpkins the squash, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: like the little ship that's just sitting around fun stuff.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: So we just stole all of them, just loaded up
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: the bags with that. We went and bought like ten
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: dozens of eggs. All of us went out. Ten of
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: us went out and we went to all the houses,
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: just walking around campus throwing eggs just.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: For the fuck of it. Are you guys hammered too?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Were done? Yeah? Okay, So we walked through a few alleys.
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: Anybody that walked past us, we just got the eggs
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: and point blank smashed on the face.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: You're a bully, So you're a bully.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: We were just having fun, yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Right, just yoh.
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: So it was a freshman just stupid guys from all
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: different places, right, our freshman class. So we went out
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: and uh, I guess someone called the campus police. We
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: had dispersed. We all running. I got with this one guy,
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: he was like a sophomore. Later on I found out
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: that he.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Was a guy that you don't want to hang with
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: because he wasn't smart.
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so we both hung We hid under a utility
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: truck in the in the utility parking lot, like this
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: parking lot. We got on the truck opsing by tops right,
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: but he was like, ah, here's cool, we can go away.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: The stadium was one hundred yards that way. We got out.
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: We start walking. All of a sudden, you see a
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: car company. It's the cop, this Campus Universe police. They
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: pull out. We start running. I'm talking about him.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Twenty yards away from the stadium, the fastest gowt on
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the team.
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: I go down the hill. He went somewhere I went
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: this way, I got freeze and I stopped.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: He put the fucking plastic cuffs on him. He was like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: you're the rookie plastic yeah, the little ties yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: On me.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Man threw me in the back seat and he looked
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: at me. He was like, you're the kid that was
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: just one of the Gainesville son and all the magazines.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: You're at number one recruit Taylor right, Yeah, scupa.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I already called it in. Coe Sperry was on the phone.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: All the guys looking down, the guys that got away,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: they're looking down from their dorm rooms in the stadium
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: back in those times, and they're looking at me. I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: just sitting there like, yeah, very next morning, six am,
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: I'm snaking the swamp from the bottom to the ninety ninth.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Level.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, three times. Coe Sperry did not play around with me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: Long story short, I'm the fastest on the team. I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: the only guy that I got.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: How the fuck did that happen? That's wild. You were
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the not smart one. You told me I was very smart.
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, you know I was following him, Yeah, because
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: I knew he knew where to go.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I hadn't even.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: Learned the campus quite yet, you know what I'm saying. So,
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: and then back in those days, we had to come
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: in and like early fall or summer b or whatever.
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: Now they can go in the spring and get a
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: whole you know, four or five six month head start,
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: but back then we can only go in in July,
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: August or something like that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: But whenever you I wasn't the campus.
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: So yeah, I follow him and then he went left,
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: split second decision, I went right, like fuck that, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: I was in front of him.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't know which way to go bo when I
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: got caught.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like whenever you get to college, whether it's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the winter time or the summertime, you still got that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a three month period where you really don't know where
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: shit is.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: You don't know anything, know anything. But Cottage was the best, though.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, college is the most fun.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I would argue that high school football is the most
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: fun because it's kind of like you're all on the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: same level kind of doing your thing. College you can't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: really beat it, especially I have a good class. We
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: came in with, Like my class was like the same way.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: We all hung out together. We had a blast, we
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: partied together.
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: It was an awesome time I did something on every
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: level though high school. I remember back in the day
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: it was the last six sports. They used to get
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: the top guys come down and film their games. And
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: if you made last the sports like you were, you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: big big stuff. And they called my coach the day
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: of the game and say they weren't going to make it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Broke my heart.
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: So I decided to go out and drink as many
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: forties as I can for the game we played.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: We were a two, A three, A class you know, class.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Must have been a monster. This was my score some
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Teddies boys. Yeah, my serves man.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: It was old English eight that mold. And then I'm
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: in Florida, so we didn't have forty ounce. We have
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: just thirty two out courts, that's what they called them.
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: So I had to drink three of them in order
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: to be two forties, right, a little bit more than forties, right.
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: So I remember the coach said, hey, no, they canceled,
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: something happened with their travel arrangements. They're not going to come.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: I was like, all right, fuck it, you know, excuse
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: can I I.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Guess like, yeah, absolutely, incul.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: You know whatever, I'll see you guys when it's time
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: to check in. I made it to the campus after
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: three forties, got dressed, lined it up. I had three
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: hundred and fifty yards on like fifteen carries, five touchdowns.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Oh my god, Pit Central. I'll never forget the school man.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: They were pretty dope, you know, they were like five A.
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: We were three A. Best game ever. I started drinking
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: some more fucking forties the.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Next no doubt. Did you just keep that going the rest.
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: Of the year.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Oh no, fuck no, that was it. That was that
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: was the one and done. But it was It was dope.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It was that kind of game on that kind of juice. Dude,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: you got to keep that ship rolling.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: You would think so, but yeah, nah, man, I was like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: you know, screw scholastic sports. You know, this was the
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: one and done. Then the playoffs was the next couple
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: of weeks. I got a little bit more, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: tucked in and serious.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: But you had a lot offers coming out of college,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: come out of high school.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Excuse me.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: My first one was Tuskigee. As a sophomore, I played linebacker.
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: I played linebacker my sophomore year and I actually got
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: recruited by as a linebacker by the university of Miami.
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: They were today forty five to fifty minutes away from home,
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: too close tri decline to go to UM Plus. They
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: wanted me to be a linebacker, but running back was
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: my thing. I didn't know it at the time. It
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: was just naturally a running back. And everybody offered me
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: except USC and school by the way, one other school,
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: But USC was the one that stood out the most
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: because I wanted a letter from them because they had
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: the same colors as my high school. You yeah, you
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: know that's a big thing for high school guys, at
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: least back then.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably still is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So I decided, Uh, what was the coach John
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: John Wooden ship?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not that funny.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: Basketball? Yeah, basketball, I forget his name. But either case,
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: what's it Robinson or something?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But they didn't recruit I felt bad. Yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna go to Calie. You just wanted them all.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I just wanted them.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: I just wanted all of the schools, to at least
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: the school from every state to recruit me. Yeah, but
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: I committed to Georgia. They paid me a ship ton
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: of money. They ended up going on probation.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, so I heard you correct me if I'm wrong.
• 35:26
  Speaker 11: But I heard that Georgia left the Duffel bag of
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: thirty thousand dollars. I heard it was fifty fifty thousand.
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: I heard it was either way. You can correct us.
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: But they left your Duffel bag to sign with them
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: over Florida. You ended up choosing Florida and kept the
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: double bag.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a Duffel bag, but it was. It was
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a it was a gang of cash man and uh, hey,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: thirty or fifty, it was up there. It was, it was.
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: It was another zero, closer to fifty. It was closer
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: to fifty. Uh And those are the days, man, It
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: was the days. I would just go over to this
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: guy's place and say, hey, I'm in West Palm, I'm
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: visiting my mom.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I'll come by my place.
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: Two thousand and fifteen, three grand every time I went over,
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: and I went over three four.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Savage.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: But I didn't know any better.
• 36:17
  Speaker 12: Man.
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: I took all of my guys with me. My best
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: friends in college was four of us, and if you
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: saw me, you saw them, You saw all of us
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: dressed to like we had the same cakes. I was
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: just blowing through that money like it was nothing.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Man, I took care.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Of everybody more together than Yeah, we were together, but
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he would together.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no.
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: Like like busting on the bus or yeah bus. Yeah
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: the boys now, but my guys were my guys.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Man. I took care of him, you know. Yeah, we
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: were all solid.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: And when I would go, he make sure I have
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: something to take here, you say, take care of your buddies.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You know, who is this man with some extra cash
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: for on like that?
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: You know, he's an amazing dude. You know, I don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: even know if it's safe to even say his name now.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't all these years.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: Later, but he does so much great stuff in the
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: community outside of that. But the college just knew that
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: he was a guy that can take care Yeah, the players,
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: you're good in the community.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Up and coming, the up and coming athletes like he was.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: So I wasn't Drew.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Did you sign with Drew coming out of college?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: No? I did not. Yeah, I'll get into that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. We'll go, we'll pivot right back. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: even signed with him, he saw that with the pivot,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: I like that, that's dope. But I keep going. But
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: actually I can't say his name it was mister Calloway,
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: mister call Yeah, he's amazing, but I sip my game
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: is garbage anyway. It doesn't matter what clubs I used.
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: But mister Calloway, he was so amazing man. But he
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: took care of the kids in the community right, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: these colleges knew that he was the bridge to the players.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: So uh went under n C double A investigation for
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: all that everything. I remember, the n C double A
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: came to University of Florida and said, hey, we heard
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: that you guys were taking money, myself, my childhood best
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: friend Ridel Anthony.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Who played at UF, A few other guys. I denied y.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Then I did I deny at least that was my mindset.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: They said, uh, before you continue to go on, we
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: just want to show you this and this and this
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: photos of.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: You taking money of us over visiting mister calories. Man,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: what ended up happening is.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: The same outfits all we were right. How many times
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: am I gonna try that?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: So Georgia ended up going on probation for that. During
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: those trouble, I didn't.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Get any trouble. Florida didn't get any trouble. There's other
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: schools that I visited didn't get any trouble. It was
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: just Georgia that took the hit because they were paying
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: the bucks. Actually Mixed State maybe yeah, some big cash
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: can stay paid you. I was never going there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, why would At Michigan State probably about twenty grand.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's and you're really.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four, I mean.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Now schooler, bro.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had seven hundred dollars my bucket at one
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: time in high school, I thought, was a fucking man.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Did you get that from college? You get that pail
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: gram money?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: You think you made it? Bro? Money? Did you? Guys
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: used to gamble with it too? No? I was smart,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: you know, for smart.
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: You know all the fellers would be in there gambling
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: their pail grand stuff away, and it's like, look at
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: these idiots.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, you just got this money. Unless you win, Unless
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you win, you win, and it's all about that. But
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: dudes get so mad because.
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: You're in college, Like once you lose that money, that
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: money is gone, Like that money's gone. He ready to fight,
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: Like they get tight, like come on, let me win
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: it back. Then they want to double and others tribble down.
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: They're paying other sports.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: Now like now UF we had we had one guy
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: is one guy got kicked out of school because they
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: ended up getting them on drug charges. He was actually
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: using his pel grant to buy weed and flip it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: He ended up being a dope dealer.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That really is a smart deal I mean, unless you
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: get caught like.
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: He lets you get caught, right, Yeah, certainly, unless you
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: get caught. But but those days were it was something. Man,
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: I didn't realize I was that good, even in the NFL.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that I was that good.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: You kind of just you look back on your like, damn.
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: Like fuck, God gave me so much talent, and I
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: don't think I wasted it because I at some point
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: I sort of matched the hard work with you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: everything else that you needed to take it to another level.
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: But early on I just woke up on the fucking
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: four two four three, like it was nothing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: After some forties.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, easy, I'm beer.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm talking beer.
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, okay.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You know he was on it. He was on the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: whole time.
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: If you legitimately argued like the most underrated player of
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: all time, like would you put yourself in that category?
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: It's unfortunately I guess I have to. But that's based
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: on media standards, right, Yeah, if you line me up,
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: if you go and talk to my home, link up
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: with a little bit later. Keith Bullock, one of your
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: guys here at Towns.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bully.
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: You know you talked to Bully, You talked to to
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: to Ray Lewis, you talked to Ed Reid. You know
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: you talk to Troy Popmhlu, Derek Brooks, Warren sapp name
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: anybody that that was on defense. These coaches talk to
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: coach Dungee, you know, the coach that was here. Talked
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: to Jeff Fisher, you know, uh yeah, talked to Coach Coughlin,
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: Coach Belichick. All these coaches that had the game plan
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: for me. They knew what I presented on the field.
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: They knew I was a problem. I'm sure they wouldn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: say it was overrated. I mean underrated. But when you
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: talk about the media accolades, Yeah, the accolades and the
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: media and the timing of you know, from season to
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: season and there you know those different accolades that carry
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: each year. I missed a few of them, but my
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: numbers were still just as good as some of the
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: guys that received those nods in front of me. It's
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: just I guess that's the nature of the markets in
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: the NFL.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Do you think the reason why you were you were
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: overlooked in those ways with the same numbers because you're
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: playing at a franchise that was so young.
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: One, yeah, that that would that would be one for sure,
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: you know. And another thing is you have I got.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: A call time out just real quick.
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: You got this hair, and I just I've been staring
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: it the whole time, and I just got to be
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: a boy and oh.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: Wow, I've been you know, I had this fucking pivot.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: Thank you? What were we doing this?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? Cool? Yeah?
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: But anyway, uh yeah, So one, being in the market,
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: the market was wasn't great.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: It was a you know, not a great market, not
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: a good market.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: And then when you're not winning, Yeah, when you're winning,
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: it's easier to get those eyes on you. For my
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: first two years we were winning, that was great. But
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: then certain times, certain moments where I would be injured,
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: right and uh, and then we're losing, so you sort
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: of get swept under the under the rug and people
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: sort of forget about you. And then and even other
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: moments when I would go out there and bust my
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: ass and do well. I just didn't put together back
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: to back seasons doing that. So it's just the timing
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: of that, the injuries along with the markets. Then you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: no one never really knew what I was capable of
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: unless they were on the field finding up against me
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: every sun.
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: I think it's just crazy to look back on because
• 43:20
  Speaker 11: you played thirteen years, you have like forty two records
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: for the organization of Jacksonville, and you only had one
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: Pro Bowl, one of which it was like an alternate, Right, Yeah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 11: that was the fact. Does it like piss you? Did
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: it piss you off at the time when you weren't
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: getting the Pro Bowls? And when you look back, does
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: it piss you off?
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: Well? Yeah, I gotta keep it one hundred, which I
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: always will. Yeah, it was some ship man. You know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: I definitely.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Trying to stay focused, right, No.
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: Man, you know, you Bush, you got your work. You
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: go out there and you know you give it. You're
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: all man, You're laying it all out and uh, you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: these are the things you expect. At the end of
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: the year. You look at other guys, you weigh yourself
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: against what they're doing, and at the end of the
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: year where you're not getting those calls or the votes,
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: you're like, what's going on right now.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I remember a few.
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: Times where my nimbors were better than veteran guys that
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: were getting voted in. But then someone was like, hey,
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: these guys have been before. They're gonna get looked at first,
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: before the younger guys or the rookies get looked Yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: you know, so I had to you know, I took
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: that hell that way. But then when you throwing the
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: whole marketing, the market and the injuries, so I missed
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: a few, but yeah, I was still pissed. I was
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: pissed out myself, more so because of the injuries. I
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: couldn't stay on the field.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: So later on I started figuring, you know, like why
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: can't you stay healthy? I thought I was doing everything right.
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: But you know, obviously hanging out three nights a week,
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: going out, waking up to be a the stadium at
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: seven eight o'clock. My output was still hot, you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: I was still performing on the high level. It's just that,
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: you know, over the stretch of a few weeks, my
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: body started breaking down, so I couldn't sustain no any
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: consistency in the NFL. If you don't have consistency, you
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: don't really have much. So with that, it's just the time.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: Like I said, I always go back to the timing
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: of things, and at the point where when they do
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: decide to vote on the Pro Bowls early December, my
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: game always elevated from mid November to late December January,
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: my numbers were a lot better than they were early
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: in the season.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, asks me, why how? I don't know.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really confusing stat because usually someone who takes
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: care of their body usually has the best in the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: second half the season while everybody else is doing this right,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: You're kind of doing this right, right.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: But I started ascending more so towards the end of
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: the season throughout my entire career, and it's one of
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: the strangest things so which also put me, you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: I always wanted to, you know, talk to the voters
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: and the most of the media guys, and hey, look,
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: why do you vote for the Pro Bowl at the
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: beginning of December?
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: The season is not even over.
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: Why can't it be as simple as taking the top
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: three guys at their positions, whether it's you know, the
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: running backs receivers statistically and just let those guys be
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: the guys. Wouldn't that be easier? Then you take the
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: whole voting and the market, you take all of that
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: out of the equation.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: So what do you do with olfics a woman? Then
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: that's tough. Yeah, I don't know.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: I mean, but for still guys, it's easy to just
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: lead it out or you know, you look at what
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: the NFL's main agenda. They got to make money. They
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: got to market the game, They got to market the players. Right,
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: so when the game was in Hawaii, the best way
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: to do it is you got to market the players.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: You want to take the players that you know, the
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: fans are are very familiar with, and you want to
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: send those guys over because all the Hawaiian people that
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: were on the island, they weren't filling up the stadium. Yeah,
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: you know, that was a game for you know, the
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: people that live inland to visit the island so they
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: can enjoy the game or enjoy the week long festivities.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: You know, before the Pro Bowl came along.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Another tough thing about stats.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: The issue what that is is like if you have
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like a receiver, let's say he goes off to fifty.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: The next week he has forty six, right, goes off
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty the next week after that,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and the next week, and then the next two weeks
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: he has under one hundred. Like that's if you have
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: high numbers, you could have six unbelievable games, right, And
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: so the stats things kind of tough when you're saying
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: it's like consistency is aba the most important thing to
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl?
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: I think over the stretch of a back then sixteen
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: game season, you know, the numbers say that they don't lie, right, Right,
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: even if what you said, if you have a you know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: a two forty and a fifty, that's still three hundred.
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: Split that in half. That's one fifty average. That's a
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: dope ass average. I'm taking that every week as it back.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think that's Henry's average.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: He's a monster, I mean, control, he's ridiculous.
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: Hoping he definitely gets back healthy and do his thing
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: on tract time, right.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: He's got two more years left, two more years.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Hopefully he can hit it big.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: But you know, that's that's a whole nother conversation too, man,
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: because it's about leverage. They look at the age, they
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: look at wear and tear. He's a big guy. They
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: probably gonna bet that he's not gonna be able to last,
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: you know, so long. So I don't know if he
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: can get the big, big check, but I'm hoping he does.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna run him. They're gonna get run him, and.
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: They're gonna look at that, and they're gonna use that
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: as an argument. Unfortunately, they're gonna use Look, you're taking
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: three hundred plus carries a game. Even in this NFL,
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: where's the past happy league. They're gonna say, Nah, were
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: talking about crazy man, it's crazy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I think the NFL is more diving back. It was
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: so pass happy about I don't know, five, six, seven,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: eight years ago.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: And it's really the run game.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: The balance of offenses have really come into a thing
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: where you know, the forty nine Ers, the Falcons us
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Baltimore runs a fifty two percent of the time.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of these team, these teams that are having
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: success are really finding more of a balance right now.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: You have outlars like like the Chiefs and stuff like that,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Chargers are going to be all
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: are that way but the run game is really becoming
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a thing. And what I would argue that if I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: was Derek sitting here arguing, well, you run it so much.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Takeaway last year, which, by the way, I think he's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: still finished top ten and rushing only playing eight games, unbelievable. Yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: top six. Yeah, Like he was number one for three
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: weeks after two. Every single year he got stronger. He
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: was like you were talking about you were he would
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: get stronger. October would hit and he be like all right,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and then November you be oh shit, and then December
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: it's like you've been to watch the fuck out right,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: because he just he just takes care of his body
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and he just keeps fucking going. And if he is
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a year like he did two years ago when he
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: hit two thousand and with seventeen games, got crazy to say, like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: let's say, let's just say he beats the he beats
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the record as a franchise. You guys sit there and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you got a you know that old Peter Griffin thing, Sir,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: here's the empty check, do whatever you want with it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Isn't isn't it crazy? Though?
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, hopefully he can get back and show him
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: that he's healthy and yeah to go and they can
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: do right by him because I don't see any huge signings.
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: You know that you guys have done even in free agency.
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: You know you haven't done what these other teams are doing.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: They're cut check, they're stroking these one hundred million dollar
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: deals on five years to have any eighty million guaranteed.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen that with you guys.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Harrold got signed for eighty six million dollars deal, which
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: is which is great.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I think he was very deserving by the way, these fucks.
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: Okay, that's vely we were able to talk about in.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: House Cat John.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I think someone showed us has a history of showing
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: homegrown guys and when they deliver, he pays them.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Got it, Robert Woods.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people are a lot of people
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: are upset because he hurd towards a cl November. And
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying what he's going to do or not
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: like that, because my my beginning of the year was tough,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and they were saying, they were saying, but Dupree wasn't
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: healthy until the end of the year. Receivers are a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: lot different, right right, Like OBJ looked phenomenal while he
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: was coming off his a cl So I think he
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: watching Robert wood was on film. The dude not only
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: runs crispy routes and can get open and get some yak,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but the dude blocks his ass off too, And so
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a bigger deal than
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: people think.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Hooper.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: We signed who's a two time Pro Bowlers with the
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Federals for a little bit and then with the Browns.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I think he's pretty good.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Our defense, they just played the way they did last year,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, and the offense. The offense, he can get
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: back to what it was two years ago. I'm I'm
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this football season. A healthy Derrick
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Henry and we're starting to put pieces. But I agree
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: with you, we're not there's no like splash. We're not
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: making splash things. But in a lot of times, John's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: never really done that. Like the biggest splash we've done
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: was Julio last year, and before that, Kennyo was more.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Of a name than what from the pocket.
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you opened the checkbook, you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: for Julio, But he's more of a big name, and
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: I really thought he was going to come in here
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: and do some damage in my fantasy. You know, on
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: the other side, you got hearing in the backfield like, fuck,
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: they're gonna get one on one on ones across the board.
• 52:22
  Speaker 9: You gotta kill something. But you know that that's just
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: the nature of the business. But I'm rooting for Derek,
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: you know, I like him to stay healthy, show that
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: is healthy because he deserves a big day, big payday.
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: But myself, you know, it's just timing.
• 52:34
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• 52:34
  Speaker 9: Timing was one of those things man, and uh, it's unfortunate,
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: but I was. I was bissed that I didn't make
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: you know, uh a lot of Pro Bowls, but I
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: still kept my faith, you know, my head down and
• 52:46
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  Speaker 11: Why do you think why do you think the running
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: back market is? I feel like it's not seen as
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  Speaker 11: what it used to be like.
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: And right, the NFL is trendy. I mean they always
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: say it's the topiccat league. If one team say all right,
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: look we can go with the two headed months to
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: get two guys for the price of one because of
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: the injuries, you know, YadA, YadA, every team is gonna
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: look at that concept and they they'll copy it. But
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: every now and then you have guys that come along
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: the Adrian Peterson's of the world, you know, the right,
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: the Derrick Henry's right. These guys are going to force
• 56:17
  Speaker 9: the issue. Hell, even Chris Johnson like, these guys are
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: gonna beat every down backs, right, and what can you
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: do about that?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: But if you have a guy that's you know, borderline,
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: you know, I don't want to say mediocre, but just borderline, right,
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: then if we can get these guys to make the interchangeable.
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: Have this guy's a third down guy, Have this guy
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: third down past specialist, this guy's first down sacking down,
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: short yardish guy. Then you're putting two guys in there
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: so when you come back to the table, you have
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: some levels that's instant leverage because they're not out there
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: playing sixty plus snaps. So that's an argument for the
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: guys in the front office, but they do that a
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: us to leave. But every so often you have that
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: one special back back, say one Barkley prior to the injuries,
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So these guys come McCaffrey,
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Christian amazing pack.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean struggle with injury, but he got
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I mean he got paid.
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah you had, but he got paid, you know. But
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: the injuries are still there. They're gonna always question that.
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: But going forward, come out with him. I wonder what,
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: like the last couple of years he's been injured.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: He's a small guy. It's a lot of wearing tear.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: They do a lot with him.
• 57:30
  Speaker 12: He does.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Circle now, yeah, many times you have legit.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: You have those touches and not just handoffs.
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: But I mean that he's probably scripted at least ten
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: plus past plays in the passing games going into the game.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: That's not including the checkdowns off of play action, you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: So see, but those are special talents that forced the issue.
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: So how can you argue, you know, what they're deserving of.
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: But then you have those teams that they just believe
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: in what they believe in. The Patriots running back by committee. Yeah,
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: you know when I spent my time in there. You know,
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: if you're if you got the hot hand, you stay
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: in the game, regardless if you're the destinator started for
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: that week, if you're the hot hand against whatever ball club,
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: you stay in the game. That's just the way they
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: run their outfit. Yeah, but the NFL has just noted
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: that running backs, you know, running backs are expendable. Uh,
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: the value isn't there like back in the day when
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: we were when the scores were you know, end of
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: a ball game, prior to a lot of rule changes.
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: The scores were twenty to fourteen was probably considered a
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: freaking blowout, or twenty to ten was considered a blowout.
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: Nowadays every team is putting up thirty forty points because
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: the rules changes, right.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Personal bad ones.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: So back then, man, we said we're going to run
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: the ball. We need to run the ball forty times.
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: One back can get thirty carries twenty five plus and
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: that was this game. That's when they were paying guys.
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: But now it's just you know, the rule changes everything else.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: This is what we are.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I think the money I mean in a lot of ways.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: The money is going up. I mean, is money is
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: going through the real but for running backs, like there's
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: a few years where it's better for sure, but that's inflation.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: That's the captaining higher that's right, right, it rolls downhill.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: The quarterbacks are signing, right.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: And so by the way, that was that was a
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: monster deal.
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: And you you said that before that, you're like it
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: used to be a top quarterback like Deshaun Watson signed
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: that fully guaranteed to thirty.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: It's like a good domino to fall for, like, you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: player to start.
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: Doing that for everybody. Man, that that deal was five
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: years to thirty.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. The Browns are dangerous, insane. Yeah, the
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: whole AFC.
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: Really is like nasty bro crazy, right, I mean, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: it's all cyclical and it's just revolving, big word.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Mean, it's just revolving. You put on.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: Its round and round and round and round and round
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: and round. But yeah, I I know the NFC has
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: they don't have their moments the f C. I know,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: when I played, the f C was hot ship. Before
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: I got in the league, it was the NFC.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: Now it's it's other than the Chiefs, you know, the NFC.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: They have some great teams. But I think there's a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: lot of balance in the NFL right now. But that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: money is ridiculous, man. But it's the TV deals, the outlets,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: all the different avenues that they can show the games,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: get you know, ad and sponsors, sponsorship revenues in and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: these these players, man.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: They deserve it though.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but I think it should be bigger guarantees for
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: everybody across the board.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this has got to be the craziest free agency.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen, but by far
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And left right I'm
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: over there right, like that little gift for the black
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: kid doing this thing? What kind of just like, oh,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen to your boarder right now?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, look like in all these I mean, I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: mean Drew Lock no offense at the Seattle Falcons mark
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: most of these big deals.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Are a FC.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: What's crazy?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa on rushing both sides.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Max Crosby, Chandler Jones.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Tyreek Hills of the.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: Dolphins at Waddells got mister I N. T. Jackson cornerback
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: over in j C. Jackson over the Chargers. So the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: Chargers are I think everybody's looking at what the Rams
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: did you know in their model.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Copycat league league again right?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: And the Dolphins have turned that Larry Tunzel deal into
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I mean what five years later, still just scooping up
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: picks and now was sending them.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: Off up guys man, And and you know there you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: have to take those picks. You know, you don't trade
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 9: a guy to sit on those picks and not do
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: anything with them, right, you have to make a move.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Uh, And now is.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 9: The time for a lot of those teams you have
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: you know, Jacksonville for example, I'm looking at what they
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: traded Jayalen Ramsey for two first rounders. I think it
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 9: was like a third rounder in there and some other stuff.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: And uh, the.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: Rams have gotten the best of that deal because they
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: went on and they want to ring.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Notice past year Jacksonville has gone backwards garbage and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: they have no disrespect kind of back to back years. Yeah,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and I can't argue that. I mean, I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: think the fans would. I think they'll give me a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: pass if I agree with you and say the team's because.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: You're the greatest Jacksonville Jaguar ball you know.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: So, but you have to be realistic.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: So having back to back first picks back to back years.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think that equations being garbage.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: You know, to argue, to argue both here is your
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: points are there? Teston Titans twenty fourteen at the first
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: overall pick fifteen had the second overall pick, and so.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: But we have much Titans have done. Yeah, I'm saying
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: in the last three years.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Build off of it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Able to build and build and build and building. So
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: you know that's the thing. Everybody like Jacksonville probably won't
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl this year. I don't know, you
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But they're not crazy. Say they're
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: not two years away. They could do something. They have
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: a great quarterback there. Say it's not a running back
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: who's durable. It's not you can rush the passer.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: And I think they need to add to that obviously,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: but it is crazy at all. You look at where
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 9: the Bills were three years ago.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you look at where the Bengals, by
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: the way, the Bengals because if Trevor, if Trevor like
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: starts exactly.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: You got those guys, You got those elite quarterbacks on
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 11: their rookie deal, and you can start saying, fuck those picks,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 11: trade them away, get vets, spend money going all this,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 11: put it all around them.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Because the Bengals are a perfect example of that.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: If I understand this risk reward right, but if I'm
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 9: if I'm investing my heart and money, I want to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: make sure my money is in companies like you know, Apple, Amazon,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know, World dominating all those companies that you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: understand what they're gonna give you, right, You'll have, you know,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: a few fluctuations, but you know what they're gonna give you.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: In the long run opposed to potential startups. Right, these
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: these unicorn companies that don't always hit the mark.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Same thing with NFL.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: When they go out and they sign these players, they're saying,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: all right, I can get this rookie. I want this
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: first round pick that's potential. Yeah, I look, I equate
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: that to a startup. You know that the potential is there,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: Will it be successful? Who knows?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: If me a guy who's.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: Proven, I want you, I want to get you in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 9: free agency because I know what the fuck you're gonna do.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't want Billy Smoe from Oh Miss
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah that fuck it. I don't want him to say, well,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I gotta wait, you know, three years before I can
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: really see his true potential. Otherwise I'm gonna cut him
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: because all those contracts are based on the first three years.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: The other shit doesn't matter, you know. So and guys
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: tend to grow later or they developed later. But if
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: you want to win now, you look at what's on
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: the free agent market.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: You take those shots.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you can build through the draft in the second, third,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: or third, fourth, fifth round, sixth rounds. Those guys are
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: telling it, they're the best players on the fucking planet.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: First rounders don't always mean you're going to be great. Yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: it's just mean a lot of these guys are just hype.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: You get a few analysts to say this, Billy Schmoe
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: what was his name, right, Billy.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Schmoe is great. Billy Smoe might be garbage as hell? Right?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: How many guys are you like that in college?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: It happens, man, it happens, no question, these guys that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: it happens a lot. The Chargers back in ninety eight
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: my draft, they took Ryan Leaf after paying many Wow,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 9: yeah goes back.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many years, but it was awful. Right.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: So yeah, I think that these teams you want to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: win always been a moment. If I were a GM,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: I say, let's win now.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: And it's not even free agency, but yeah, fuck those picks,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: get them out there.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: Look, I'll look at a salary cap. We'll figure it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: out later. Let's go now. Well, we all were in
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: a business.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I think we all know at this point that the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: star cap doesn't really mean anything. If someone says cap
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: casualty or the cap, oh they only have this much
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: spending room.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Well if you take five guys, so let's say three guys.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: That are making You know, Tannahill makes twenty two million dollars,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Say hey, here's twenty one million dollars right now in
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: a signing bonus, and.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: You're gonna make minimum this year. Right, You just freed up.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: However much money in cap You can do that over
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and over and over again. Going back to the potential thing.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I had a coach in high school tell me that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: potential just means you haven't done shit yet, right, That's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: all potential is. Right, So I don't disagree. I'm not
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: a GM, you know what I'm saying here, I am.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I'm still in the NFL. So I'm playing like the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: on the Wall game right now. But I don't see
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: why that wouldn't be the move now like the Rams did.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: They's saying, fuck the picks, let's go get whoever you want.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: And with free agency it's like buddy like, not just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: free agency, it's everybody, everybody's roster, everybody's for sale.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: You've got to be willing to jump out in front
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: of the line early, right. You can't wait to see
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: what the market is going to dictate. Just go get
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: your guy, right, and that'll be the end. Of it
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: right Buffalo, they want and got von Miller. Von Miller
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: didn't have a great season, but they know what he's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: capable of to say, all right, we're gonna give this
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: guy where we believe he deserves. We're gonna put the year,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: We're gonna add the years on there, We're gonna give
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: him his bonuses up front and everything else in terms
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 9: of averages. It helps his cap friendly Or they can
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: go and pick a few other guys. But they took
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 9: the piece of the puzzle that they felt they needed
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: to take them a step further. And if they go
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: a step further, they're in the super Bowl.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: And even if even.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: If von Miller isn't statistically as good he's been the past,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: which I have no doubt he is capable of.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: His presence is something you have to be aware of.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: If I'm playing von Miller, I'm very aware of what
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: von Miller is at all times. Right I'm sleeping, But
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: you have to be aware of our is alt that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: you have to watch the film. How much time is
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: he on the left hendle, how much time he's in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the right tackle winndsy up in the middle, Like you
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: have to be aware of where a guy like that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: is that kind of talent. He's crazy talented, right, and
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: he just fucking goes. He lulls you to sleep do
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: like an asshole. Like he'll take three players and kind
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: of jog off the ball and you're like, I'm then
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: this dude up. And then all of a sudden he
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: jumps the snap because he starts to learn your snap
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: kin a little bit, and fucking he's around the corner
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: so he can bro like he can ben like crazy.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Once you overset, his spin move is deadly and because
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: you have to get back so fast his long arm,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: he will put you in the back of the quarterback.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: No prole pro. He's savvy, savy pro.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 9: Even going back to my early early in my career. Man,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 9: you know vun You look at Van, he's a he's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: a linebacker. You know, now, you we got to get
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: out the quarterback because we know they're gonna be more dropbacks.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: Then you know you mentioned a few teams that are
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: gonna go run heavy.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: It's just their philosophy, right. Obviously you're a coach, Mike.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: He believes in running the ball, established snap, playing great defense.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: He's the old school guy. Yeah, but some of these
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: guys they just want to let it rip. And majority
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: of the NFL teams are that way. So you're gonna
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: get these cleaners is what they called him back in
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: the day. I don't think they called him that so
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: much more down the guys that were big linebackers that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 9: can actually rush the passer. But back in the day,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: they wouldn't put him there because they would fear the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 9: run game and and and being able to obtain the edge.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: I would get outside on that ship the heartbeat.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: But when you have those guys like a von Miller,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 9: you pose a huge threat the offenses. But teams just
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: I think teams really just gotta just dig in and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: make their moves and and deal with it. I think
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: Jacksonville will have a better season this year year ago
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: Peterson he's back. I think Trevor would be better. You know,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: with all all that drama that he had there.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: To talk about that was crazy.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: There was a lot of drummer there, man, So you know,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 9: I think he'll be better this year.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 11: Do you think they'll win the division this year? Here
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: trying to set some ship up.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: But it's all good.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 9: Look what I I got to say this though, I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: will say this, I don't think lightly. Yeah, hear you.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: Houston was the top dog four years ago. Tennessee took
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 9: that spot of Tennessee's been the top dog.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: When the coast was always are nice, the coach always nice.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: What's their identity if I if I'm in your division? Yeah,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 9: playing the Coats, Yeah, I see Maddy Ice just went
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: over there and they got rid of Carson Wentz after
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 9: you know, making the they missed the playoffs because we won.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: Jacksonville won, but they missed the playoffs. But I don't
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: know if Matt Ryan is better than Carson went.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got Jonathan Taylor and you do have
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: there in their well coached football team. Like I know
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: that they're very unbelievable football coach. I tell you what
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: their identity is the same as Tennessee Titans. I really
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and I really believe that coach physical. They know the rules,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: you know how to use the rules to their advantage,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: and they play good and they're always they're always gap responsible.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Their defense is gap responsible.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: When the DN goes inside, it's not because he just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: has a whim because he's you know, he's told to,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: so his backers got his back. They play great sound
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: football I agree with.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: That, and they're very much identical to what you guys have, right,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: I think you guys have Tannehill in your system. He's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: been a better player since he landed in Tennessee.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: I just don't know what the identity of the quarterback
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: is in Indie. We know what they bring in a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: run game, we know what they do on defense. They
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: can't let teams like Jacksonville beat them split those games
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: in the division. You guys don't do that, you know
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 9: what I'm saying, Like, you don't do that. So if
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: you want to be the top dog in the division,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: you got to crush the bottom, you know, up pest
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 9: or whatever you want to call them. And you guys
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: have been good at doing that with Jacksonville. Yeah, the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: Coats haven't yet. The Colts, well, they.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: The Coast haven't done that.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: They split with Jacksonville.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: They lost both times to us, and they beat Houston
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: both times. Right, right, We beat Jacksonville twice, beat the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Colts twice, but we split with Houston and Houston with
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: DeShawn not playing and there and they're coaching things that.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: That was a weird, wild game.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: It becomes that reason any given Sunday, like the worst
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: team can be the best team, and it is pretty much.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals got their ass kick to the Detroit Lions, right,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that's true, you know what I'm saying, Like it can
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: happen at any Cardinals.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 11: Like it's the same thing though, like you're saying, if
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: you're going to beat the top dog, you gotta you
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 11: gotta step on the team that you're gonna step on.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: But we'll just go ahead and cap this segment off
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: answer a question. Jaguars are going to win the division
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: to shore, they're good here.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I think a team you sleep on, though, like I want,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: when you played in Jacksonville, god forbid it's in December
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: because you're so used to Jacksonville made it to the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: f C champion.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: They beat him like what nine to six.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: Nine, and it was it was. It was a great
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: game for them at home NFL bro NFL. But then
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: they came back and you didn't see that same team again.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that had to do with
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: with Meyer, though.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I just think you see all the stuff coming out
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: and all the shit you read is probably there's half
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: of its true, half of it's not. But this whole
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: thing with Tim Tebow where you'd make the players wear
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: the jerseys and like Tim Tebow Tuesdays.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 9: I didn't hear about. I missed that one. I know
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 9: he and Timmy are, they're super tight. Yeah, and I know.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Those Tuesdays cut him halfway through camp. They can't be
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: that tight.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: Timmy's my guy, you know. Obviously he had a lot
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 9: of pressure on him for even bringing tim to the team.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: You know, a lot of people felt like there's so
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: many other talented guys at that position that was worthy
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: of a tryout, which is what Timmy basically earned. But
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 9: you know, or Timmy had I won't say earned, but
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: he had tryout, and you know, you just go back.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: Relationships are everything, you know. I always tell people it's
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: not about because they like to say it's about who
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: you know. I always like to say, it's about who
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 9: knows you right. That's because like that you can vouch
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: for me if you know me right, it's more so
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: than me knowing you. I gotta wait on the phone
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: call and you might not call me back. What you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 9: can vouch for me? And h urban he knows Timmy well,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 9: you know, and he's like, hey, I'm bringing in and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: give you a shot, But a lot of people felt
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: like there are so many other guys worthy of that tryout,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: but you totally just dismissed it and brought your homeboy in,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 9: you know, for the moment the beginning.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 11: Like obviously everything panned out the way it has and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 11: you know they've all split up and all that stuff,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 11: but from the very beginning, like you're trying to build
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 11: a culture, Tuesday coach, and it's like Tim Tebow, he's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 11: kind of got right.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: So you know how the locker room. It's you can
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: lose the locker room so easy. You know, even when
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 9: that happened, the guy's in the locker room, like Tebow's
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 9: a joke.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, I loved him. He's my guy.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 9: It's found that what he does in life, who he
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: is as a person, you know who he is that
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: as an analyst, I always felt like right baseball player,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 9: I always felt like he didn't get a fair shot
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: after doing what he did with the Broncos, you know,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: in the playoff run, all that different stuff. You know,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: he's not the conventional quarterback. You know you're going you
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: script h stuff around him. He's a he was a winner.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: He was a guy that put his heart online.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Right, So legit, I think he could have been in
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: the league like a Taysom Hill, the Mormon missile.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: He could have definitely done He could have definitely done that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: Uh So for Tims, you know, I loved him across
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: the board. Uh I just think that the timing of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: what happened in Jacksonville. You know, Irvin coming back in
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 9: with the Bagga team was already bringing back in a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: strength coach. That was a red flag. Tim was a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 9: red flag. He go out there, you lose the game
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 9: in Cincinnati, a tough game against eventually the Super Bowl,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: the guys that lost in the steat. Right, you go
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: up there, and then now you're in your home state
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 9: of Ohio. You're out there getting what they consider lap
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 9: dance and all this other stuff. You didn't fly home
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 9: with the team with all that other stuff. Right, You
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: have a rookie quarterback who was dependent on its head
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: coach being a leader, you know, So now the media
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 9: is tearing him up. The quarterback isn't playing well, Jacksonville
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 9: isn't playing well. Jacksonville's always always considered one of the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 9: big and laughing stocks teams in the business of football.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: So it's just a lot of distraction on top of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 9: distractions on top of that. So it was drama down there, man.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: And I do their home games each and every week.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 9: I do their away games from my place, but when
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: they're home, I go do end stadium analysis as far
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: as for their media and the fans stuff. So I'm
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: tucked in with them and following them real close.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Man. It was just it was bad.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 9: The local media was beating them up, the national medium
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: was media was killing him. I think it was the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 9: right move for the franchise to cancel his contract. But again,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: I do think that coach Peterson havn't taken a year off,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: have some time to evaluate the NFL, and you know
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: how the game is going now, get creative while he's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: at home. He's the offensive genius. The things he's done
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: in Philly, you know, for those four years winning the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: Super Bowl Quarterbacks. He's a great former quarterback who's going
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: to be a great quarterback coach. I just think that
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: with that, along with the quarterback, his confidence is amazing.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be great. Man.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: He's gotta be great.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 9: Now that the drama's gone, he gets to settle down.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: I like to see what Travis etn is going to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: do to help James Robinson to take some pressure off
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: of uh Lawrence Trevor. So, yeah, I'm expecting the Jags
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: to have a big year, and not just saying it
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 9: because I'm a former player, just seeing there how all
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: the pieces can fall in play. I think they definitely
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: will win. They'll be above five hundred. That's a's a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 9: big statement, I think. So it's league it is, but
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 9: I think they'll be above five.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they got a good defense. They put some pieces
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: together there. I think they did a great job. In
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 9: free agency. They went up some big receivers. I think honestly,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 9: I think they probably overspent a bit for those receivers.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: They got Christian Kirk what's my guy out of Carolina Raiders.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is good.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: Not to say that those guys aren't worthy of you know,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: the contracts that they got.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Guys are really good players. I just think that.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 9: Based on the market, how the market was set, that
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 9: they you know, they went out there and took their shots.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: And you know, when you have guys like Dvante Adams
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 9: out there, cheetah what he just got in the contract
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 9: that he got, I don't think.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Jacks had the draft liquidity to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: go get you to the right.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: They got so much equity and liquidity and cash cap
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: space they had everything.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and draft picks. They only have one draft
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: pick this year, right, the first overall pick, though, because.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 11: Davante, they had to trade up some picks, right, Cheetah,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 11: they traded some picks.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: The two first round first in the draft really equates
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: to two first round picks at the end.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Of the statement, agree with that it all depends on
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: the value of the draft class too.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: How strong is your need in the value of the draft?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 10: I agree, I think it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Might the first overall pick. This is what I've heard.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: This is not my own statement, so go ahead.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: What I've been told is that there's no like this
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: is the number one overall guy. There's no like this
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback is in the second coming of Peyton Manning. Guy
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: in this draft right now, where I think that first
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: overall pake would.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Be much more enticing to some things that need a quarterback.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacksonville isn't that team.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trevor's going to be a stud. He
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: can sling that thing. He's got the beautiful man. He's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: killing it.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: I don't see well, I can foresee the Jags uh
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: in my mind, in my opinion, trading back, trading out
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 9: of that spot.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't as.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Though someone who needs as rusher like Aiden Hudginson, who
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: he is, an offensive lineman like James O'Neil, which I
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: think you guys need.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: I think they do need an offensive lineman.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I think I was told that. I think you guys need.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Robins.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: Great, yeah, Cams solid, uh, Juwan Taylor is solid. I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: don't think they've been as consistent as the team would
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 9: like them to be to protect you know, the number
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: one thick and hopefully the future.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Not To keep in mind on that statement, it's very
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: difficult as an offen time when you're playing behind for
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: every game, if you're losing games by a lot of points,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: you go in a half, you say, hey we got hit,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: we gotta throw the ball out run two minutes, right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: These rushers know they're painting their ears back. It's not
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: fair to cama JA want to be like these guys
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: didn't do X, Y and Z when you're playing from
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: behind by so much.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: That's very true.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: And then you look at you look at the little things,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: the things that you know. I'm sure you go out there,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: you look at you know, your your your first step,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 9: You look at your hand placement, You look at your leverage.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: You know, a high hat up or down. You know,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 9: you want to make sure you're solid. A lot of
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 9: times when you look at these guys, you know, I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 9: don't want to say they it's always sloppy play, but
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: when you see multiple holding in games and you question,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 9: you know they're discipline their techniques and this is back
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: to back weeks.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: That's not acceptable in the NFL. Uh And in a
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: lot of times too.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 9: You're right if you're going to drop back X amount
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: of times because you're playing from behind, at least script
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 9: up something where the running backs are going to come
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 9: out there and help the tackles ship on your release,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 9: quick release, whatever it might be. You got to help
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 9: the guys. So I think we have two pretty decent tackles.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 9: Cam just got tagged franchise tag. I think he's getting
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: fifteen mil a year.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Which is not very much money for the.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 9: Eighteen or whatever it might be. Yeah, something like that.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 9: But you got to go out there and earn it.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 9: I don't know what they're going to do. You know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: he's pretty good and actually we just sent our guard
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 9: to Washington in exchange for Brandon, So I don't know, man.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 9: I think Jacksonville has enough equity to make whatever move
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 9: they need to make in the draft to make the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 9: team better. But I do like to start with coach Peterson.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 9: I think he's gonna you know, I think he's gonna
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 9: do well for him.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: You got an owner who loves the franchise, puts a
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: lot of money into it. You go to that stadium,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: it's always beautiful, right, there's the pool in the back
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: So they're throwing good money into it. They're not afraid
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: to spend.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I know the NFL, but I'm saying from like, but
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: people have crushed owners in the past for kind of
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: like these are billionaires, even got their money from oil
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: or stock market or whatever. Yeah, parents whatever, relaxed guy.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: But in those.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Situations, people are like, well, these people don't put money
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: in the franchise, who's gonna want to come there?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: This guy spends money, he puts money in it.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Thing that was missing.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I don't and Listen, this is not well, I guess
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: it is my statements, So I'm fucking saying it.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Keep doing that, keep doing it, remember my ass, I
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: really do.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: But his leadership, like we're able to this the next
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: level because it's great leader. You know these some of
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: these coaches, Sean McVay is a great leader of men.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: So he's taking these guys to the next level. They
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: obviously have the star power. But Peterson, right, I think
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: he's he's he's a leader of men, and that's that's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: the thing that's missing. Or if you're in those tighter games,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: maybe you pull those things out because those guys maybe
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: know a few more keys that they might have shown
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: in a Friday tape or something like that.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Right, he has a clean slate.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 9: I mean he's been off for a year, right, and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: he's going into a team that hadn't done anything over
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 9: the past since twenty seventeen actually when they made the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: FC Championship run. They haven't done anything and a lot
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 9: of those guys don't even on the team. So what
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 9: he's inheriting is, you know, a very young team. There
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: aren't a lot of veteran guys on the team. You
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: hit it right, you know, the nail right in the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: head when you said leadership, what's their identity? You know
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: who's that that see that Captain patch on your jersey.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 9: That doesn't mean a fucking thing. No, you gotta go
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: out there earn that each and every week and not
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 9: just you know verbal it. You got it for me,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 9: it always came through my play. It wasn't a rah
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 9: rah you know talk. You know, I'm not going to
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: motivate you through a speech. I might say, you know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: I would probably say on Saturday every blue moon when
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 9: it go save Fred, we need you. I ain't just
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: gonna go out there and say, you know, that just
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 9: wasn't me. I want to go out there and bust
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 9: a fifty yarder on you know, third and two, you know,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: in a nine man box, diamond front or whatever.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: I want to motivate you that way.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: I want to get everybody excited and then you know,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 9: we can create that momentum that way. But they just
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: never over the past couple of years, I think they've
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 9: lost their identity in that sense. You know, plays Campbell
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: when he was out of the building. You know, unique
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 9: these guys who were part of that that amazing that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 9: that Saxonville defense when they made that run.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Who are those guys? Allen is great. I can't really
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: speak for Josh because I'm not in the building, but
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: looking at his play, I think guys will follow him. Yeah,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: they just recently.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: When you play against him too, he's the one when
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: he's jumping over going well right, well even at timeouse
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: when you're you're in a timeout, he's if let's say
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: we're playing them and we were playing, well, he's getting
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: on the guys about X, Y and Z.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: He's not afraid to speak up. I like Josh Allen
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's a stud. Uh.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 9: They just released Myles Shack. Who was that that? Yeah,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 9: he's a study.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: You know, they released Miles so it's like a wild
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: card to me.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd always get that little fifteen yard on you.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 11: But he looks talking right right, He's somebody who's like
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 11: super talented and as a linebacker who watched him just
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 11: sometimes I thought he'd be lazy in his technique because
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 11: I'm thinking, like, bro, you could be.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: One of the You have the ability to be one
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: of the greatest to ever do it, you know what
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: I mean? Sometimes right, but you're putting no attention to it. Obviously,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 9: I'm looking at things and I'm looking at those guys,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: but I'm not looking at technique for technique, play play
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: and play out. But I know that they respect my
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: You know, the players definitely gravitate towards Miles, but he's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: no longer in the locker room and on the offensive side.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 9: Let's be honest. I mean, who you're turning. You have
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: a young quarterback. You know, he's trying to voice his opinion,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 9: but he's still he was just a rookie.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: You know. Guys looking like this ain't fucking college doesn't fly,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 9: So I don't think that the offense had a clear
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 9: identity in terms of leadership, a guy that they can
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 9: point to when it was crunch time. But hopefully, hopefully
• 1:27:36
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  Speaker 3: Going back on your that's dope, bro, Going.
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  Speaker 11: Is there anything you look back on and you think
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  Speaker 11: talk about injuries all the time, right, you talk about
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  Speaker 9: I joke a lot of times to say I wish
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  Speaker 9: But even though that one, aside from that, right, just
• 1:32:00
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• 1:32:08
  Speaker 9: bodies so early, you know, going in, they they right
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  Speaker 9: they were giving the guys Popeye's, chicken.
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's after after.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but that's not what these guys are getting now, right,
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  Speaker 9: you know, those little things actually matter.
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  Speaker 3: I learned that later in my career.
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  Speaker 9: When you look at just from a medicinal standpoint, that
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  Speaker 9: just that I ain't talking about cannabis.
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  Speaker 2: As long as you pass the test, doesn't you know?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I smoked my entire career. That's a
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  Speaker 9: whole nother story.
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  Speaker 2: I mean part of their program growing up. Figure.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, so yeah, just just a few things, man,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 9: just learning how to take care of your body and
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  Speaker 9: this day and age, man, I mean, the science is there,
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  Speaker 9: you know, you just understand it. I think I would
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 9: have gravitated towards that more so, and how I work
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: out and training in the off season when I played,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 9: I didn't do a thing in the off season until
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 9: March when we reported back to Many Camp or not,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 9: but OTAs prior to Many Camp, I just didn't care.
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  Speaker 9: Later on, I felt that that was more important. Then
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 9: my numbers started sending. I got better as a player,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 9: I maturer there. But I don't have any regrets other
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 9: than can this be the locker room moment? No, I
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 9: guess that. Wait, no, no, no, I guess I could
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  Speaker 9: talk about it. Yeah, I got something else for a
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  Speaker 9: locker room moment. I guess I figured out. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 9: the only regret that I have as a player, it
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 9: was in two thousand against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: We took a trip down to Orlando. Myself and like
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: eight other guys.
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  Speaker 9: We took a trip to Orlando, got back to jack
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  Speaker 9: We went to party down there. It was like a
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  Speaker 9: classic or something. Got back to Jacksonville team meetings at
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 9: eight am. We got back to Jacksonville at seven forty
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  Speaker 9: five am, rolled in a team meeting room. Our our
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 9: suits and everything was in a limousine ready for the plane.
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  Speaker 9: Somehow we all stumbled and we were all toasted. We
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 9: were fried and we were a rap. Went through the meeting,
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  Speaker 9: somehow made it through the walkthrough, flew up to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 9: I was cramping on Saturday. I cramped all day Sunday.
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  Speaker 9: I was dehydrated. Luckily for me, it was a Sunday
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  Speaker 9: night game.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise I wouldn't have played at a one o'clock or
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: four am.
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  Speaker 9: So Sunday night kickoff. It was three Rivers Stadium before
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: they imploded it. Now it's Hinesville at the stadium by
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 9: the way. Yeah, it's super dope, right, crazy fans too crazy.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, so that night, so I ended up rushing
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  Speaker 9: for two hundred and thirty four yards four touchdowns. Cramped up,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: uh late third, early fourth quarter, didn't play the rest
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 9: of the game. I feel like I could have broke
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 9: the single season or single game record that day if
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 9: I didn't cramp up, because it still has never stopped
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: me that day. So that's yeah. I didn't take IV
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 9: at halftime or anything. I just was cramping up. It
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: was crazy.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: You ain't take IV's for any of it, you know what.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 9: Iv IV's that half became popular much later in my career.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't a thing even before games too, that was
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: not a thing. Water and gatorade and they had this
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: thing they had.
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  Speaker 9: It was like these little electro like tablets that you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 9: could put in your gatorade in like fizz.
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  Speaker 3: It was all bullshit, but it was crazy. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's probably work, I don't know, but.
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  Speaker 2: That's another thing.
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  Speaker 11: On anything that you do like this bullsh it don't work.
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  Speaker 11: But they're just fucking good, So you can't say much
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  Speaker 11: to them, no doubt.
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  Speaker 9: But no, seriously, though, that was my biggest regret. I
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 9: feel like I could have got the single game Russian record,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 9: and I know a certain coach Coughlin would have given
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: me the more. Yeah, that's so that's my only regret
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 9: in my career.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Damn. That's tough.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fuck, I only it's that's a that's a
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: hard that's a hard to regret, my guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: But my overall career though, I mean I had my
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: share of injuries. Man, I partied, I was hanging out.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: I did a lot of stuff while young stupid, you know,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: running through Jacksonville, running through Miami, you know, unconsciously just
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 9: just whatever.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: You know. I was wide open man, and uh, you know, had.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: A good jack And Garrett hated you growing up, hated y'all. Yeah,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, dude. You were talking
• 1:37:00
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• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: So I remember, like it was yesterday.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 9: My fifth game out of my my career was against
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 9: the Titans, the fifth game of my career. The previous week,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 9: James Stewart got hurt, one of your guys, Tennessee volunteer. Uh,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 9: Stu got hurt because people in Jacksonville were calling me
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: a bush.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: That's after four games preseason fast pre season.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 9: Huh it was number nine ninety eight. Yeah, so they
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 9: were calling me a bus and uh that's crazy.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: So Stu got hurt.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 9: Coach Coughlin, Uh, Tony Boselli just recently elected Hall of Fame.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Bo was like, this fucking rookie's coming in oh ship.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: You know, they didn't think I had it.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 9: Went in my first carry against the Ravens, fifty two
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 9: yard touchdown that backsweek.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: I toasted the Ravens that day.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when they were the defense.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: They were.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 9: They were that defense, the best defense in the league
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 9: history down, and I gave him the business. They were
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 9: the top dogs from ninety eight to like two thousand.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 9: They're still top dogs, right.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great defense, Lewis like four yeah people.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so I gave him the business. The very next
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: week was the Titans playing at Vanderbilt. I remember that
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 9: playing at Vanderbilt. Probably at the game, the shittiest locker
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 9: room in the history of the NFL. It was the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 9: worst turn Yeah, no shadows Vanderbilt. They were garbage right
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 9: there was awful. But I remember having a like buck
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 9: thirty that that day. I know y'all were crying that
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 9: went home crying. It was astro Turk.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Y'all were crying.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, were crying on the way home. Oh
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 9: ship ninety eight, Yeah it was ninety eight.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, I don't really have any regrets
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 9: on my career, man, other than that one game. Yeah,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 9: I thought I did okay, And it comes with what
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 9: it comes with. I think I will make the Hall
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 9: of Fame someday.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about that because I
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to bring this up to in a bad way.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: But Chris Johnson was on IM Athlete and he was
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: talking about what's the criteria? I think I should be
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: in it? And with Chris he changed the game. You're
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: with him on that.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 9: I agree with that. What's the criteria? Yeah, criteria? What
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 9: is the criteria?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 11: Like?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: What is it? I don't know.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 9: I retired fifteenth all time eleven thousand, six hundred and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 9: you know, thirty five or something.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Yah, exactly the number, you know, exactly the two records.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 9: It's been a while since I looked at it, but
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 9: at the time when I retired, I knew my numbers
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: were better than fifteen of the guys that were currently
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame, whether they're a modern era
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 9: or old school, my numbers were better than these guys.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: So that alone, right alone, what's the criteria? You just say,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 9: this guy is better than these other guys, Like, I
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 9: think he's deserving of a spot in here. I not
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: first ballot, obviously, I think I would have been first
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 9: ballot if I hadn't missed sixty I missed sixty games
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 9: in thirteen years. Oh damn, sixty fucking games I miss
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 9: I missed fourteen and for twenty eight games. My last
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 9: two seasons almost when I was in New England. That
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 9: actually brought my rushing average per game down, and my
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 9: yards per Kerry came down based on the games that
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 9: I shoot it up for. The Patriots got one snap
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: or two snaps because of their system. So now when
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 9: you look at per game averages, they came down because
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: I dressed out. But you know what I mean. So
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 9: I do think that I will make the Hall of
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 9: Fame win. I don't know, but I think my career
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 9: was worthy. My numbers speaks for a SI. I agree
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: with Chris. You know, Chris was a bad man. The
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 9: only thing I disagreed with was when he said he
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: was the first two hundred pounds back to come in
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 9: and be every down back. I was through twenty six
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 9: doing it just as fast. I ran four two eight
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 9: forty at two twenty six coming out.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Damn on grass faster than Chris.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: Oh hell no, I wasn't faster than Chris. But I
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 9: ran four two eight forty one grass at my FLOORIA
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: work out. Chris ran is in Indy at a comebine.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 9: I didn't run that to comebine. I was advised by
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 9: my agent not to what I would have. He just said,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 9: just run on your pro day. There's no tes I'm
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: trying to.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: I didn't even train for my pro day. I didn't
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 9: train for the combine. I didn't train for my pro day.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 9: I did I did six. I did six. This knew
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: you were going up there. God, God is my witness
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 9: on my dying grandmother. I did six twenty yards. Start
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 9: to train, I went down in New Orleans coach Tom Shaw,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 9: and Coach Shaw might be watching at something. He's in
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 9: Orlando now, but he had his facility in New Orleans.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 9: I went down there because my agent, they had a relationship.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 9: I went down there and after the first day of
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 9: you know, getting acclimated and doing his workouts and everything,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: we did a few starts. He said, he pulled me,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 9: I say, why are you here. I was like, because
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: my agent asked me to come. I'm working out. He's like,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 9: You're the closest thing to Bo Jackson I ever seen
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 9: in my life. Damn, he said, while you're here. The
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: next day I left. I was out of there. I
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 9: was out of there, man. And I just didn't train myself.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 9: Jack Ques Green and we just we did a few
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: starts on the track field back at UF and Gainesville
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 9: and the next thing, you know is Pro Day and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 9: we went out there and we lit it up. Yeah
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 9: damn forty one inch vero to a forty on the grass.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: That's got to be.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: That's so insulting to being well, yes, bronding rock four
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Montage during my pro day training, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 11: And this motherfucker's just going out with a homeboy on
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 11: the track and just be all.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Right, I feel good, man, let's go do it.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I don't.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 9: I don't really say that, you know, as you know,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: I'm not bragging. I'm looking back, I'm like, fuck, I
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: really could have really trained and killed a whole lot
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 9: of stuff. Yeah, you know, I could have been in
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: these conversations where these guys are the fastest forties and
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: this and that or whatever.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: I could have been right there, much bigger.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 9: But I do agree with Chris on the the whole
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 9: criteria thing.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 9: The only thing that I disagree with is that I was,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: you know, a two hundred plus pound back and every
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 9: single first down, second down, third down, old line. He
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 9: wasn't the one that started that, right, Yeah, you were fucking.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: Right, bucking love shifting a little bit.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 11: Like I wanted to ask you because we've all seen
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 11: like the documentary thirty for thirty broken stuff like that,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 11: and doing some digging on your stuff. It seems like
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: you had an incident where you were defrauded like three
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 11: and a half million dollars, right, And I was wondering
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 11: if you would speak on that, and then also if
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 11: there was like advice or any insight to any young
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 11: guys or anybody listening that can be in this position,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 11: you know, to be a little more, to be more
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 11: cautious or be wary of science that you you know,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 11: maybe you look back on the thing I should look
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 11: for those things.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 9: No, I'm always willing to speak on it, man, because
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 9: it'll help someone else and I'll do a huge service
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 9: to them as well as myself.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 9: You know, for me, it's gratitude and giving back and
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: that's the first thing I look for. I know, we're
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: you know, what is it twenty four years removed since
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 9: my rookie year ninety eight, and you know, things are
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 9: more prevalent and right in front of us. And I
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 9: think from a financial literacy and taking care of your
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 9: finances as players athletes, guys that don't come from those
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 9: demographics that.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: I haven't been able.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 9: To inherit what financial awareness and being able to take
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: care of the money right. I think it's a huge
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 9: service for them for me to speak on it.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: I came in.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 9: I chose my first agent first and foremost because he's
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 9: a black guy. I had an opportunity to go with
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 9: Lee Steinberg. They really a courted me and try to
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 9: recruit me, but I turned them down. I don't even
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 9: regret that, you know, because I feel that in hindsight,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 9: I have an opportunity. This is the part of me
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: that became a part of me. It became a part
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 9: of my story.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: It's a tool that I can use to help other
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: people right, to try to steal them clear of falling
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: in the same trap that I fell in.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 9: So I chose my first agents black guy. He recruited
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 9: me like a father figure, you know, my father. We
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: developed a relationship late in my life, around my junior year.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: Of high school.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: My dad came back from the military, got back involved
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: in my life.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: But I still didn't have.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 9: That guy that I trusted as a father figure in
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 9: certain black my first agent, and he came in. I
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 9: had a five million dollar signing bonus in ninety eight.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: That was ninth big, that was huge. I had potential
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: to make like sixteen meal on my rookie deal. And
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: he took that check after I signed it. I remember
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 9: seeing two point eight million dollars going to a bank account.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 9: I took five hundred thousand just so I can have
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: my you know, my bills and whatever I needed. So
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 9: what they did was they took that money invested in
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 9: an offshore account, which eventually became a Punsie steam. They
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: took that put all of it over there, like two
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: point three mili. They put it over there. But they
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: would give me these window documents of what I was
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: getting for return on the investment, which was like thirty
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: brand a month. So at the time off of two
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: point three million, I'm seeing thirty thousand, you know, thirty
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 9: thousand dollars a month. That's three hundred and sixty thousand
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 9: a year. I'm like, all right, we can, we can
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: do you know a little bit more than in the market.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 9: That's fine, but you know, you fast forward. It ended
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 9: up being a Punie scheme, total bullshit. At that time.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: Ninety eleven happened the market crash and a lot of
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: my teammates ran back to the locker room.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: They lost a lot of them. Yeah, in those times,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: they lost a lot of money. But my money was
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: frozen and the punies.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 9: So what the government did was we filed a claim
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 9: to say, all right, we were involved in this. So
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: the money that was frozen, I ended up getting back
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 9: about two million dollars of it. Uh so I lost
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: the three hundred thousand.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: Plus whatever entry I could have made a regular investor.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: And that was like four years later.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 9: Right, So I go from tank Black to another guy,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: Jeff Rubin, who I knew from college, and a lot
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 9: of other guys knew Jeff. Sorry, Jeff befriended me. We
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 9: ended up getting together. He became my financial guy.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 9: It's sort of I always think about that, like like
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 9: the new girl that comes down. You know, if you're
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: that guy that meets her first, you get friendly with her,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 9: you know, then you have a better shot at her
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 9: than the other guys. So Jeff kind of we're coming
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 9: off of a I was coming off of a.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: Bad break, right, and he was the first guy to
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: say I can do this, this, this, this, and this
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: all right, cool, We're good let's go.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: So he ended up I hired him as my financial guy.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: Some investments early on were very moderate, very conservative, right,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 9: mutual funds, easy stuff.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: Three four.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 9: He took he started taking shots in these private equity deals.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 9: He put us in this casino deal down in Alabama
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 9: and Bama. It was I thought it was a good deal, right,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 9: It was a it was a charitable Bingo operation, which
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 9: at the time was they were great in Alabama, but
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 9: the politics in Alabama never so great. So they raided
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: the They built up the casino. It was amazing property.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 9: They built it up. On our opening night, they raided it.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: And they said, this is a legal operation. The Bingo
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 9: is a front for this, that and that. Whatever I
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: can get into that, but I would take for it.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: Is that true? Nah?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: They just changed the law. It just changed the freaking
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: law overnight. Uh.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 9: And we were slated to make I had like one
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: point six million that deal and probably was gonna do
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 9: about sixty on our money a year. Yeah, it's awesome.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 9: It's casino, right, it was an amazing property. So it
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 9: was just gonna just print money. So fast forward. They
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 9: shut that down, lost that money, had to fight against
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 9: the banks, had to fight against the law firm that
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 9: eventually actually didn't give us operating agreements and ppms, so
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 9: we sued the law firm that did it settled out there.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: Sued the bank because a lot of things are forced
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: through the bank. But Jeff Rubin, who's the financial advisor,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: he's a sixty minute Special two ad teo. Ray lewis.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: A lot of the top guys want to curse myself.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 9: He's still just out there living the dream. But it
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 9: was just bad man, and uh just got with bad people.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: And you know, but I learned the valuable lesson stuff
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: that I can talk to my kids about.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: I can talk to young players about.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: I can go into these uh speaking engagements in these
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 9: different fortune five hundreds and talk to their uh their
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 9: employees about. So in hindsight, you know, it's a blessing
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: in disguise. I learned a lot and I'm much better
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 9: for it now in terms of finances. Uh, it's gonna
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 9: help my kids, you know, in the long run. But yeah,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 9: it's just in the platform you have with Pivot and
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 9: the platform now. Sure, so those experiences, man, you know,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 9: they they're not short of anything. I can give back
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 9: in so many different ways. So yeah, it was just bad.
• 1:51:41
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  Speaker 2: We put together a few lists.
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  Speaker 11: You're gonna rate them tier one to tier three, all right,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 11: because our fan based their team one being the best too, obviously,
• 1:54:35
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  Speaker 9: So what we have as your research guy, because I've
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 9: seen they got my hometown on there.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: They got a lot of.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: I believe what Alex goes to you Alex back there. Yeah,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: but here's what we have.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 11: We have five backs from each decade of the eighties, nineties,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 11: and two thousands. In the eighties, you see Eric Dickerson,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 11: Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, O, J.
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  Speaker 2: Simpson, and Tony George said.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 11: In the nineties you got Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Marshall Falk, Terrell,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 11: David Thurman, Thomas you're kind of like a tweener, and
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 11: Eddie George. And in two thousands, that's where we put
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 11: you Ap Clinton, Portis, Priest Holmes and Ladanian, Tomlinson. Okay,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 11: Tier one, Tier two, and tier three. Gimme those from
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 11: those decades.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: I'm ranking each dee.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 9: You're ranking the decades, like, which decade are you taking off.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: Oh so I got to take the decade itself and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 9: not the player.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah, ran the players. You can rank the players. That's
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 11: a little fun too. Start with the decade, all right,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 11: So starting with the decade? Uh man, I think, uh fuck.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 11: The eighties were solid.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 9: They were running backs were drafted to do in the eighties.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 9: Eric Dickerson two thousand yards, Walter Payton, my idol, Eryl Campbell,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 9: you know Downhill, oj we know what the Jews did?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: Tony dor said, you know, praying for TD.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Subtle one line, not not that we know what the
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: Jews did.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: I think there's a book about that.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of what he did.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: No, I mean in terms of what what he what
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 9: he did on the field as a player, The eighties
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 9: is tough.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: She's I think I'll go with the nineties, though one one.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: Here, one slotted in. Yeah, final answer.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 9: My huge Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk is the reason I
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: wear twenty eight. Terrell Davis didn't play long enough, but
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 9: he was a beast. Durnman missed the consistency. He did
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: everything in Buffalo Catch Run, top Dog.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: I gotta go eighties Tier two.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I gotta keep running your decade last Yeah, yeah.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think we have some great players
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: in my decade. Eric Dickerson first two thousand yard back.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 9: You know, like I said, Walter uh uh uh, Walter
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: Payton was just that guy man. He influenced me.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 9: But my my, my decade. I love Ladanian, I love
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 9: Adrian Peterson. If I had to rate those guys in
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: my decade, I'm gonna go LT one, Adrian Peterson two,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 9: myself three quarters four and Priest Owns five. Priest had
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 9: a hell of a line in casey. I think Clinton
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 9: certainly better than Priest. Clinton has some some good juice too,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 9: coming from Denver and heading over the Redskins. That slash
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 9: running play thirty eight thirty nine, it was he did
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 9: some good stuff there. But yeah, man, Barry Sanders is
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 9: the best aside from Jim Brown.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: Barry is you know, he's my one B back all time.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: Emitt Florida Gator, but I think Emmett is like he's
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 9: probably like seven or eight or nine or ten on
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 9: the list of all time. Yeah, he had some monster
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 9: a lions. Yeah yeah, and it wasn't fat fancy. He
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 9: just was downhill, one cut and go. He didn't like.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 9: He wasn't for me, he wasn't entertaining, but he did play,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 9: you know, in the Cowboys Jersey, and that was more
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 9: entertaining itself. I'm gonna take Adrian Peterson, La Danny, and
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna go Eric Dickerson, Walker Peyton just on this
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 9: list right here, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson one
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: too for sure. But Danny and Adrian Peters No, no,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 9: not one, yeah, no, not one two. I'm sorry, not
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 9: one too, because Barry is one.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: You're you're you're running backs of all time.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was gonna go that way. So Barry Barryer
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 9: is one. I like to say, Walter Payton for me
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 9: is two difference in his three. Marshall Fall would be four.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 9: La Danium would be five. Uh A p would be six.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: I'll put myself in there at seven.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: I got two.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I respect this seven right little game. Yeah, it
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 9: it's dope because OJ was a monster. OJ was the
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 9: beast a lot of ways. Yeah, uh, I'm gonna go
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 9: with I'll go right here with uh eight consistency, Thurman nine,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 9: oh J ten.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're better than Emmitt Smith and O J and
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: Thurman hell, yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I don't want to.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: I think I don't. I don't want to.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 9: I think if I'm healthy. You know, Walter Peyton the
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 9: best thing. He did the same with Emmett. Those guys
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 9: were on the field. Yeah, you know, they were there
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 9: every Sunday. I think Walter missed one game. I don't know,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 9: ten eleven, twelve years or whatever. He missed one game.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 9: So the consistency is there. But even those guys on
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 9: the list, only myself and Barry Sanders, guys with twenty
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 9: five plus uh touches twenty five hundred touches of more
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 9: are the only backs on on this list. The half
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 9: four point six yards per carry out m Yeah yeah,
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 9: so but that's my list, That's what it is.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: Outstanding.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: So for our last standing segment, by the way, the
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: tier talk, yeah, I thought.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 11: That was fire, especially with the you know, with the
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 11: great with a great sitting on here Brady running backs.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 11: For our last segment, locker room talk, give us a
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 11: good old fashion like we got we got whistle pig
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 11: sitting here.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: We're sitting back.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 11: You're telling a bonfire story, whether it's on or off
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 11: the field. And if it's you know, if it's something
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 11: where you don't want to share identities, that's fine. But
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 11: just tell us a good old fashioned locker room story
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 11: that you tell the boys.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 9: I know, but don't get too excited because I mean,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 9: will text me probably four or five hours ago somewhere, yeah,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 9: under the bus, that's dope.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: I was. I was somewhere on Broadway, so getting smashed.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 10: I had to take yeah, because you you wouldn't take
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 10: the back.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 9: I had to go take a nap. So I didn't
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 9: even have a chance to really think of a story.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 9: But man, you guys know, it's so much ship that
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 9: goes on. Man, I don't know what jumps out. I
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 9: remember my brother and good friend would come in the
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 9: huddle during the games.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: He was like, hey, dude, let's go, baby, we won't have
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: a good game today. Let's go.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 9: And I would look at his eyes and his eyes
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 9: would be bloodshot. Very good, his eyes will be bloodshot,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 9: and uh, I was like, Okay, he's ready to go.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 9: He's hype. Yeah, I didn't know he was doing cocaine. Yeah,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 9: before the game. I don't know if I should tell
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 9: that story, but whatever, Yeah, I don't know, I do
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 9: know that in two thousand and eight and this isn't
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 9: so much locker room talk, But in two thousand and eight,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 9: this is probably more so a story, you know, to
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 9: help the young guys that go out that might feel
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 9: that they have a sense of entitlement when they go party,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 9: might have had one or two or three too many drinks.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 9: I remember being on South Beach in two thousand and eight.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 9: I hung out, just out minding my business, had a
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 9: good night, went to my car. This guy came over, Hey, Fred,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 9: pleasure to meet you. My brother was like, man, you're
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 9: just too friendly. Get your ass away from here. You're
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 9: too friendly. The guy went back inside. I told the
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 9: security that we were threatened. We weren't threatening, and.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: Shit.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 9: Thirty forty seconds later, eight South Beach police pulled up,
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 9: throwing tastes and guns.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: Get your ass in front of the car.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 9: They kicked me. I had on some tight ass jeans.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 9: They can spread them. I can't spread them, no more
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 9: super tight. They lamed me on the hood of the car,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 9: and so they were like, hey, they put the dog
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 9: in the car. And at the time, my wife she
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: hates dogs absolutely to this day, not that she hates dogs.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: She doesn't like the way they smell.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 9: Okay, he doesn't like how I smell when I come
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 9: from outside in the house.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: You smell like outside. Go take a shower.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 9: So she yeah, she yeah, her nose is her nose
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: is crazy. Like the dog's like yeah.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you ain't getting lucky unless you're showered up
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: one hundred one thousand percent. So are you clean?
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 10: They were looking for stuff.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: They let the dog go in the car. They didn't
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 9: find anything. They got me. They threw me in back
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 9: of the patrol car and took me down to the
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 9: South Beast station. But the guy left the cuffs unlocked.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 9: So when I got down there from there, and there
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 9: was a lieutenant that was in there, he saw me.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 3: Coming, he was like, Freddy T. That ain't Freddy T.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: That ain't. Come on, No, take the cuffs off. What
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: the fuck are y'all doing? Take those cuffs off.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 9: So the guy who was in there, he was a
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 9: guy who came to the team in Jacksonville. That he
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 9: didn't make the team, but he was the guy that
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 9: I looked out.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: That's how I was as a as a veteran guys,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 9: I always rooted for anybody that came. Look, man, this
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 9: is what you gotta do. Try to make the team.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 9: So he remembered that. So he was like, take these
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 9: cuffs off of Freddy.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: I know. Whatever you guys are saying he did, he
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: didn't do it. He's nothing like that. He should have
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 3: done the cuffs off. They didn't even put me in
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 3: the holding cell like. So he's like, you're not putting
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: him in there. See him on his bench, You're not
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: putting him in there. This shit ain't right, Like whatever's
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 9: So he was like, they took the cuffs off, and
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 9: I'm rubbing my wrists like what the He's like, that's
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 9: the trick that they do for the cops to be
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 9: nash ste you know, and trying sort of threw over
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 9: you or whatever. You don't lock the cuffs because the
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 9: more you move, the tighter they get. Oh really right, right,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 9: So he was like, they did the old bullshit to you.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: He started laughing. I started laughing. It's like four point
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 9: thirty in the morning. They let me go under my
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 9: own recognis or whatever. They read a statement. I didn't
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 9: know what it meant. I just wanted to get it
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 9: was now I was slightly inebriated. It was like whatever,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 9: I drove and my brother drove me forty five minutes home.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 9: And when I got home it was six am, just
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 9: in time for the morning news to come on, the
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 9: local morning news.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: And then that.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguars running back Fred Taylor was arrested night in
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 9: charge for this underordly conduct on South Beach. Before I
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 9: can even close my eyes to.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 3: Go to sleep.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 9: Oh, it was like or something crazy, and I had
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 9: to go back to Jacksonville. The team was like, what
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 9: the fuck this happened? But it was two thousand and eight.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 9: It was prior to.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if the commissioner had just
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: you know, goodell.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know if Roger had just taken over as
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 9: a new commissioner then. But I know the rules weren't
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 9: that strict because if I had that, had he charged,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 9: then I would have gotten suspended for a few games.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: Oh damn, But I didn't. Right.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 9: I had to get in front of the team and
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 9: apologize to the team for everything that went on. And
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 9: my mom is a cop. She's retired now, you sure.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 9: She's like, look, you just got to be careful how
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 9: you talk to these cops, you know, because you don't
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 9: know what type of day they had or what's going
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 9: on in their lives. You can't curse them and this
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 9: and that. So that's where the solely conduct came from.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 9: So that's not so much locker room talk. Hopefully that's
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 9: a story. Hopefully that's a story that can say some
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 9: of these guys that get out there and they feel
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 9: like I didn't do anything wrong, which is how I felt.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 9: But you can't say everything right because there are charges
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 9: for everything, and you don't want to be one of
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 9: those guys that you know, when you wake up, you're
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 9: on Sports Center.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 10: No no, no, in your top story.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 9: So yeah, that was me. So hopefully that will help
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 9: some of these guys. But it's a million other stories.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 9: Trust you, I got some ship. I just say, yeah,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 9: we'll have to have.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: You on again.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 9: We'll figure it out. I'm always down, man, Yeah, certainly
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 9: down for sure.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: And it seems like Pivot's really just blowing up right now,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: murdering the game.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 3: We're definitely doing good, man, we're doing good. Uh. Channing
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: is great. He's the He's the.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 9: Wildcard, there's no question about it. Then I would like
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 9: to also say Ryan is the wildcard. Ryan is just
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 9: a pro. He's so good at what he does. Man,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 9: he does so much. Yeah not Ryan is so good man,
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 9: and he what he does is effortless and he's so good.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 9: I think, Yeah, Ryan is He's going to be one
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 9: of those guys that will eventually be if he decides to.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 9: He can be the face of Sports Center or ESPN.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 11: Talking about like a steven A, which that interview, by
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 11: the way, was phenomenal and.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: They did open up and show a good side. He
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: really did.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 9: And you have people that talk about steven A they
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 9: call him koon and sell out and all right. Look,
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 9: you know, I don't watch enough TV to kind of
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 9: see everything that he has, but I do know the
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 9: one thing that stood out for me in his interview
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 9: what he said was and it's ten years there, He's
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 9: done thirty plus thousand takes in their lots. Yeah, and
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 9: now you're in the moment where you're just, you know,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 9: giving your opinion on things. And that's what it is,
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 9: his opinion. So I'm adult enough to understand you have
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 9: an opinion. You myself, these guys right have an opinion,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 9: and once it's out there, we have to live with it,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 9: and he's done a great job of doing that. You know,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 9: they're more so hard on him about two people, really
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 9: Colan Kaepernick, which he later came on and he vouched for,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 9: and then also Kyrie Irving, you know, and and everybody
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 9: has an opinion on what Kyrie is doing as a player.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 9: I thought you did a good job, except but you
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 9: look at people that you know, they came on when
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 9: we posted promos and said, hey, nah, I ain't watching
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 9: the show because this guy is a sellout. He's a coon,
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 9: he's he's corny, he's this he's.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: Keeps saying that he's Stephens a steel And is that
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: a racist thing?
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, Jed. I'm glad I didn't say it out.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: Right now, but that's this is what they're saying, right so, and.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 11: That's why this is more so like and crab for wrong.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 11: But like what black people will say to black people
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 11: right right.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's not something that you and I
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: actually go out right, No, so's it's just it's just
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: nothing that we So it's more so in house.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: It's not that we want to or not. It's just
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: nothing that it's I've.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 11: Never really heard even it doesn't even really make you
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 11: see us weirdly beating around this there we go, right, but.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 9: It doesn't make it even really make a whole lot
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 9: of sense, truthfully. And the one thing about me is
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 9: I'm going to speak to both sides right. When I
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 9: see something, I'm going to call it how it is.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 9: I prefer to be black and white. You know, I
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 9: love transparency, and I think that's what stephen a is.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 9: Some people feel that Disney is pulling the strings, yeah,
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: you know, because they own ESPN or the network, right,
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 9: but I think he did a pretty solid job of
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 9: throwing a different side of himself, of explaining the Kyrie thing,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 9: of explaining the Colin Kaepernick thing. Uh, you know, we
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 9: were grateful to have him on. He let us in
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 9: his house, man, he brought us lunch. It was a
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 9: great interview my opinion. So but yeah, we're building. You
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 9: we got a long way to go, man, but we're building.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 9: And uh, we're you know, they've already had it. My
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 9: dream guess is dream guests. Oh, I see we did
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 9: numbers though we did good. Yeah it was we did
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 9: really good.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: Guys, are welcome. That was awesome to be a part of.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: This is crazy but uh, I like you. I like
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: to get Donald Trump in the seat.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah, man, you're going after since you saw the whole
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 11: note boy thing, right, yeah.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 9: YouTube take it down. They had six million in a day.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 9: Thank you know, not even just for the views or whatever.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 9: Just have a conversation, you know.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: Did you ask him?
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 11: What's something that you'd want to ask him?
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: Do you like black people?
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: M I mean, I feel like that'd be a good
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: little short on YouTube anyway that probably.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 9: Just let him talk about just let him talk seats.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 9: That's what we do. We like, we like to let
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 9: our guests. Yeah, you know, let's if there's controversy out
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 9: there and people are looking at you this way and
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 9: have an opinion, we want to bring you on so
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 9: you can answer that.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: You can say what the hell you want to say.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 9: But because we know that this is what's going on
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 9: in the public or the masses might think one way
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 9: or the majority the majority of people might think this way,
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 9: we want to ask you what's up with that and
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 9: let you explain it. You can tell a lie, you
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 9: could like, whatever it might be, but we're gonna ask
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 9: that question.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: You're going to share your narrative, right, So do you think,
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: do you think Donald Trump black's black people?
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: Is that something from four years of presidency?
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 11: Don't I don't think you wouldn't say on the because
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 11: you guys are a platform that will ask those simple
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 11: questions and let them speak, and you won't have much
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 11: of a.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: Right, you know what. So now it's a great question.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: So you know what. For me, I think I think
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: there are certain rhetoric out there that's.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 9: Been divisive, right, and it's following that. I don't think
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 9: he dislikes back across the board. I don't think that.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: I think that he was playing into his you know,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: his following, this demographic, right, But I don't think he
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 3: dislikes black people. I think that.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 9: He plays more so into his following because he's a
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 9: politic politician, I'm sorry, and you know, he has to
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 9: do things to keep his camp, his base solid, right.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 9: He's talking about he's trying to get re elected too
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 9: at the same time, but he said a lot of
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 9: stuff that's very divisive, you know, in the eyes of
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 9: a lot of people.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: And obviously I think that.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 9: I have a lot of friends white, black, other whatever
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 9: it might be. But I think when he got in office,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 9: those people who were not as vocal and certain subjects.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 9: You know, they sort of showed certain colors right and
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 9: started vocalizing certain things.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 3: Yet they're still my friends to this day. He still
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: have conversation.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I try and be an adult about things.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 9: Don't think he hates black people per se. I don't
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 9: think he dislikes black people. I think he's certainly playing
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 9: into his camp and what he had to do to
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 9: try to get reelected. I think he is a media
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 9: and attention whore. At the end of the day, he
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 9: knows how to play that game exactly. He's a politician.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 9: He politician, but he look to go on Twitter. I
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  Speaker 9: don't think any politician should be allowed. Yeah, if we're
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  Speaker 9: going to go and vote for these people, there's other
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  Speaker 9: ways to get our attention, maybe a website all this
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  Speaker 9: other stuff. But if you're on Twitter, you know you
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  Speaker 9: havn't fights. You know on Twitter, that ain't cool. Even
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  Speaker 9: when run the Santas the governor of Florida stepped into office.
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  Speaker 9: He's a big, big trumpet. He's a Republican. Florida's a
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  Speaker 9: heavy Republican state. I did not vote for the Santa
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  Speaker 9: Right initially, but the things he's doing in my state
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  Speaker 9: are pretty cool. They're good, they're solid, and he's trying
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  Speaker 9: to set himself up so he could potentially run for
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  Speaker 9: Senate and maybe at some point president. Well, I vote
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  Speaker 9: for him or Republican at some point. I grew up
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  Speaker 9: in a household where I grew up in the household
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  Speaker 9: of six kids. We had to learn to share and
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  Speaker 9: get along, right, So from that I developed a more
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 9: of a democratic you know, mindset, sharing and you don't
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  Speaker 9: get along. I think as I've gotten older, at heart,
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  Speaker 9: i'm more of a Democrat because I like this. I
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 9: think that the system works best when we put into
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 9: it right, and I know a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of people believe that. From a taxation standpoint, this
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: that other, I think that helps the system turns better.
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  Speaker 9: When a Democrat is an offered. But from a business standpoint,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 9: I'm more of a Republican mindset because I bust my
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 9: ass for what I've I've earned what I have, so
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  Speaker 9: I don't want the government to just take it all.
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  Speaker 3: But I do know that there are.
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  Speaker 9: So many different tax loopholes and things that we can
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 9: take advantage of as business people and people that have
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 9: earned seven or eight figures or whatever it is. We
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 9: can take advantage of a lot of deductions, but I
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 9: didn't come from a lot, so as much as I have,
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 9: it's still more than what I've ever had.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't really get into.
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  Speaker 9: The whole like tax me thirty percent or twenty that
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 9: ten percent ain't gonna kill me. I feel like it's
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 9: giving back in a sense. But I am lately i've
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 9: been an independent. No, yeah, I'm an independent, but yeah,
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 9: I just wanted to make sense. Man, I ever vote
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 9: for a Republican president if his messages right and if
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 9: it's warranted, then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, the whole the whole party thing is pretty difficult.
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  Speaker 3: It's stupid to stand on because.
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  Speaker 11: Because you feel because I like, I know, speaking for me,
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 11: like you feel weird saying any of these labels because
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 11: you realize what people, we're.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: The United States of America, Right, we're.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: Actually a constitutional republic as well a constitutional republic.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 3: But what's the fucking the pledge of allegiance.
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  Speaker 1: To the flag of the United States of America indivisible
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  Speaker 1: and for the Republic for which it stands indivisible.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: But we're fifty state What do you mean indivisible? Right?
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 9: That's a big word for me, right, so so every
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 9: state has its own laws, and that's divided in itself. Right,
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 9: we have parties. That's divided. But you said in the
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 9: in the in the in the pledge. Right, but we're divided.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 9: You say we can't be divided.
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  Speaker 3: You know that doesn't make any sense to me. Why
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: do we have to have parties?
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: America's it's a large demographic, And I agree with you.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: I think parties are a difficult way to go because
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: there's some things from the Democratic Party that I think
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and there's things they do that
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: I disagree with. Now the Republican side, it goes the
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: same way. The things I like about the Republican Party
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: and there's things I don't like about the Republican Party.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to find a world. People
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: are gonna be pissed about this. I've never voted, and
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: I you know, I thought about voting this less election,
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: ended up not doing it. I probably will in the
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: next one because because of this, the last election and
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: watching and knowing more and getting older, I'm gonna do that.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: But it's a it's it's tough to put labels on
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: things because if I say to you, I'm a Democrat
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: and you're a Republican.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: It you other different.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: The opposite.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: That's where that guy, Oh you look at me.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: This guy's a libtard. This guy thinks this.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's tough for me to draw a line
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: in the sand with things because you know, people watch
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: this episode of the show that on both sides of
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: the fence, my opinion really doesn't matter. To be out
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: to the world, no, no, but to give us the world
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: like there's things that I will if someone asks me
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: a question, I'll answer it.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: I'm an open book that way.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: But for me to go about my opinions about stuff
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: to get mad on Twitter and be like this, Oh no, Biden's.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: Doing this or Donald it's not me. That's that's just
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: not my vibe.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: I think there needs to be I don't know what
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: there needs to be, but the whole blue and red
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: is it's a difficult thing for me to identify with
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: because I've never liked living in a box, right.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: I just think that, yeah, that makes great sense.
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  Speaker 9: I don't like the whole party thing because we're divided
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 9: straight out of the gate.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: You know, it's simple.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 9: But I do know that when the Democrats are in office,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 9: from an investment standpoint, I do know what the big
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 9: corporations do, you know, I know they cut a lot
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 9: of jobs. They try and say that numbers aren't adding up,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 9: and it pretty much gives you a key on different
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 9: things you can invest in, right, and then vice versa,
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 9: exactly when the Republicans are in office, So you know,
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 9: you take that and you take advantage of it. You know,
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 9: you live long enough, you'll be able to identify these
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 9: things when you are investing. We got to live. It
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 9: doesn't matter who's in office. At the very end of
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 9: the day. We got to deal with shit, right, right.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 9: But I just don't like the whole foundation of this country.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 9: Pretty much. It's telling us what we are and what
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 9: we should be, but then it's contradicting that.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of manipulation, for sure.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 3: Everyone's commenting on everyone's.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 9: Everyone's commenting, and people were picking a side, you know,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 9: And that was the biggest challenge for us in the
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 9: past two years, not only the pandemic but politics, you know,
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 9: what was going on, you know, and our every day lives.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, we we I think we've gotten past that. Man.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 9: I just want to live and be happy, man, and
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 9: enjoy my kids, my family. You know, build companies make
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 9: a whole lot of money. Man, that's all the fun
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 9: I wanted to That.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds a good deal. You know who else is about
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: to have a ken?
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  Speaker 3: That's right?
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know what?
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: So oh you watch when baby watch? Baby watch?
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: Make it happy?
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: Baby watch what you're expecting?
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: Will it's a baby girl?
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 9: Man?
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 11: To day is Sunday, Sunday? Yes, you're listening now, it's Wednesday.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 11: The dud day was this past Sunday. I might be
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 11: a dad as you guys are watching, or we might
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 11: be late in the game.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 3: We might be late in the game.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: We know, bro standing dope.
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I pointed at Taylor because he couldn't get the Sandon.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what why we had to do the late? Why
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: we had to do this later? That's right.
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  Speaker 9: People don't see all of that, man. You know you
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 9: take that into account. Man, what's that like? They don't
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 9: They don't always get that part right, Like they wouldn't think,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 9: you know, the big strong I'll knock your ass out.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 9: You know, Taylor, the one gotta not do his show
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 9: because he ain't got a nanny.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, my god, man, I try to be the good
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 10: dad family. First, no question about it. First, I appreciate
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 10: you guys. Man, I APPRECIREI put the jacket on. I
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  Speaker 10: made mistake.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you get your dream guests. I do think
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: you you guys are able to figure it out.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 11: Trump will come on well for you to ask that
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 11: question either, I will be fucking dial there.
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  Speaker 3: Can I say this really quick?
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: My cousin Milan Bowden, you just recently graduated play ball
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  Speaker 9: at Georgetown. He is the first female d a college
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