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3/5/26: Trump Preps Forever War, Hegseth Rages At Media, CIA Kurdish Psyop, Congress Backs Iran War · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: Have a lot of comments from Trump and Hegseth and
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  Speaker 2: war with Iran. Pretty funny that that's what their line
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  Speaker 2: And also more and more American politicians are framing this
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  Speaker 4: Let's get to the latest.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, Let's go ahead and start here with some
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  Speaker 3: latest comments from the Secretary heg Seth about the timeline
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  Speaker 3: of this war. It was supposed to be a couple days,
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  Speaker 3: then it was supposed to be a couple weeks, and
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  Speaker 3: now it might be eight weeks, might be eight months,
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  Speaker 3: who knows. Here's the Secretary at a press conference yesterday
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  Speaker 3: at the Pentagon.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 5: In a few days, in under a week, the two
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  Speaker 5: most powerful air forces in the world will have complete
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  Speaker 5: control of Iranian skies, uncontested airspace. I hope all the
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  Speaker 5: folks watching understand what uncontested airspace and complete control means.
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  Speaker 5: It means we will fly all day, all night, day
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  Speaker 5: and night, finding, fixing and finishing the missiles and defense
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  Speaker 5: industrial base of the Iranian military, finding and fixing their
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  Speaker 5: leaders and their military leaders, Flying over Tehran, flying over Iran,
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  Speaker 5: flying over their capital, flying over the RGC Iranian leaders
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  Speaker 5: looking up and seeing only US and Israeli air power
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  Speaker 5: every minute of every day until we decide it's over
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  Speaker 5: and Iran we'll be able to do nothing about it.
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  Speaker 1: B two's, B fifty twos.
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  Speaker 5: B ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets,
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  Speaker 5: death and destruction from the sky all day long.
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  Speaker 3: So the direct quote, you can say, four weeks, could
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  Speaker 3: be six, It could be eight, it could be three.
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  Speaker 3: Let me read you a quote from February seventh, two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and three, Donald Rumsfeld. It could be last you know,
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  Speaker 3: six days, six weeks, I doubt six months.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: So, if you all want to know exactly the situation
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  Speaker 3: that we're in right now, already boots on the ground
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  Speaker 3: remain on the table. Here is the Press Secretary of
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  Speaker 3: Caroline Levitt refuse to rule that out at the White
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  Speaker 3: House podium.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: Could you tell us about the president's current thinking about ground.
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  Speaker 1: Troops and whether they could be used if they were
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  Speaker 1: to be sent into Iran, what would they be used for?
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  Speaker 6: What's the situation?
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  Speaker 7: Well, they're not part of the plan for this operation
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  Speaker 7: at this time, but I certainly will never take away
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  Speaker 7: at military options on behalf of the President of the
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  Speaker 7: United States or the commander in chief, and he wisely
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  Speaker 7: does not do the same for himself. I know there's
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  Speaker 7: many leaders in the past who like to take options
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  Speaker 7: off of the table without having a full understanding of
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  Speaker 7: how things could develop. So again, it's not part of
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  Speaker 7: the current plan, but I'm not going to remove an
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  Speaker 7: option for the president that is on the table. The
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  Speaker 7: President had a feeling again based on fact that Iran
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  Speaker 7: was going to strike the United States, was going to
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  Speaker 7: strike our assets in the region.
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  Speaker 1: What was that last part? What does she say?
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  Speaker 3: The President had a feeling again based on fact that
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  Speaker 3: Iran was going to strike the US because by his
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  Speaker 3: own admission, Israel was going to strike them, quote unquote,
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  Speaker 3: no matter what we were going to do. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is a full fledged, open ended conflict. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time, I think in the
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  Speaker 3: removing of the show, just to show everybody how the
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  Speaker 3: war continues to widen. The oil markets are already roiling.
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  Speaker 3: There is a matter of days, only days while oil
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  Speaker 3: storage in many of the Gulf countries will run out,
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  Speaker 3: which will significantly hinder the production facilities. Katar LNG already
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  Speaker 3: bringing down production and downstream production. Iraqis have been closing
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  Speaker 3: their oil fields. They only have six days before their
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  Speaker 3: entire storage is taken up. The Saudis have two months.
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  Speaker 3: Interceptors are all running low. Boots on the ground are
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  Speaker 3: one of the flast things that might be able to
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  Speaker 3: change the tactical picture as it is. Secretary Hegseth. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't play this clip. It's important for him to say that.
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  Speaker 3: He noted that we'll be shifting in munitions to the
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  Speaker 3: type that we will be using, which will require US
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  Speaker 3: aircraft to spend much more time deeper inside of Iran
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  Speaker 3: and also within theoretical range of Iranian air defense systems.
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  Speaker 3: So previously you know there's B twos and others are
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  Speaker 3: fine from very very high up. Now they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be moving to different This highlights the munition's problem, which
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  Speaker 3: we've been beating the drum here on the show every
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  Speaker 3: single day. There is not a single off ramp quote unquote.
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  Speaker 3: Both sides are leaking. The Iranians say they've rejected three
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  Speaker 3: different overtures from the president. The President and his team
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  Speaker 3: have been leaking that they've rejected multiple calls from the Iranians,
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  Speaker 3: who knows what is true. I also think we should
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  Speaker 3: really caution everyone the censorship in the Gulf and Israel
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  Speaker 3: is out of control right now. The number of videos
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  Speaker 3: we're able to get open source are dramatically lower.
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  Speaker 1: That's being taken as evidence that the war is going better.
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  Speaker 1: Not true.
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  Speaker 3: It's that censorship is a ramping up in all of
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  Speaker 3: these countries to make sure that we have no idea
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  Speaker 3: what's going on. Pay attention to these statements. The fact
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  Speaker 3: that they're having to shift munitions means that they're running
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  Speaker 3: out in some cases. If you're looking, look at the
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  Speaker 3: prices of oil, look at the statements specifically about production.
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  Speaker 3: And then later on the show, we're going to show
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  Speaker 3: everybody some satellite imagery which uncontested, to show some of
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  Speaker 3: the damage the Iranians have already been able to make
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  Speaker 3: on our own basis.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know there are indications that they were able
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  Speaker 2: to strike inside of Israel yesterday. You know, there's been
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  Speaker 2: this whole like, oh, the pace of their of their
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  Speaker 2: missile launches has slowed down, but it looks like they
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  Speaker 2: had consolidated a larger launch yesterday. But again it's very
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  Speaker 2: hard to confirm any of this is very hard to
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  Speaker 2: confirm exactly what the damage was within Israel. There are
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  Speaker 2: also not fully confirmed reports, but a little more solid
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  Speaker 2: Drop site is reporting this that there was a US
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  Speaker 2: flagged oil tanker that was struck and oil is leaking now.
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  Speaker 2: So again with regard to the wider economic fallout, that
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  Speaker 2: is significant. And there was also a report that in
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  Speaker 2: terms of boots on the ground, which you'll recall, there
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  Speaker 2: are a bunch of senators Democrats included, who went into
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  Speaker 2: a briefing and came out of it indicating were really
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  Speaker 2: even more frightened and concerned about where this is going,
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  Speaker 2: seemingly indicating that the possibility of boots on the ground
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  Speaker 2: was floated there. So there is a report that there's
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  Speaker 2: a dispute between Mark or Rubio and Pete Hegseth heg
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  Speaker 2: Seth who was a total psycho pushing for a ground
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  Speaker 2: invasion and Rubio more concerned about getting dragged in to
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  Speaker 2: yet another forever war. Is that report accurate? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this.
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  Speaker 2: Supposedly they're at each other's storets et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: This is the palace intrigue. But that is what is
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  Speaker 2: being reported. And you know, at this point, given the
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  Speaker 2: number of officials who will not take it off the table,
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  Speaker 2: and these you know, indications coming from the briefings that
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  Speaker 2: senators are getting, there is no doubt that this is
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  Speaker 2: a live possibility. I'll put one more thing out there
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  Speaker 2: that I was seeing this morning. You know, we haven't
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  Speaker 2: even gotten to cover all of the what appears to
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: be more insider trading on polymarket with regard to you know, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: this guy happened to call that Maduro was going to
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  Speaker 2: get kidnaped that day. Oh, we happen to also call
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  Speaker 2: the date that Iran would be attacked. Well, now he's
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  Speaker 2: placed a bet on US ground troops invasion. So read
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  Speaker 2: into that what you will.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I can look.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a little bit in our
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  Speaker 3: update on the Kurdish surge. But we do want to
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  Speaker 3: make unambiguously clear what the President and his administration have
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  Speaker 3: now said is that this war is a result either
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  Speaker 3: of failure, inability or support for an Israeli preemptive strike
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  Speaker 3: on ira The President said just yesterday, repeating Israeli propaganda
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  Speaker 3: that Iran was two weeks from a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 8: If we didn't hit within two weeks, they would have
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  Speaker 8: had a nuclear weapon. If we didn't do the B
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  Speaker 8: two attack a number of months ago, they would have
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  Speaker 8: a nuclear weapon. And when crazy people have nuclear weapons,
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  Speaker 8: bad things happen. So we're in very good shape now.
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  Speaker 8: I want to let you know that, and we will
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  Speaker 8: continue forward.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're tracking six months ago, they were close
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  Speaker 3: to a nuclear weapon. Two weeks ago, they would have
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  Speaker 3: also been two weeks away from a nuclear weapon. And
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: forty seven years ago there were also one week away
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  Speaker 3: from the nuclear weapon. Aka, they've always been just one
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  Speaker 3: week away from a nuclear weapon. I mean, it's a meme,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not funny because one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: we've seen now is that when the administration is pressed
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  Speaker 3: on this and they'll say, why now, right, why now?
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  Speaker 3: Obviously one of the why now's is Israel was going
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  Speaker 3: to do it. Allegedly there was nothing we could do
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  Speaker 3: about it BS but that's their explanation. If you dig further,
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: they go, well, they're ballistic missile shield was a immunity
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: shield from the ability to stop a new It's like
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  Speaker 3: this galaxy sixty chess level nonsense. But Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 3: now saying unambiguous. Look, I know that you know, nothing
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  Speaker 3: matters or whatever, but like two weeks away from it's
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  Speaker 3: literally not true that IAA says it's not true. US
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  Speaker 3: intelligence does say it says it's not true. Not even
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  Speaker 3: the Israelis were claiming that they're a week or two
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  Speaker 3: weeks away from a nuclear This is the first time
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  Speaker 3: in history. They're not the ones who are even giving
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  Speaker 3: that level of pretext. And this is now being parodied,
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  Speaker 3: you know about by the President of the United States,
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  Speaker 3: bandied out by the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 3: every single time that they're out in public and going
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  Speaker 3: on the record in a WMD style propaganda. I even
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  Speaker 3: saw somebody use the term we don't want to see
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  Speaker 3: a mushroom cloud as evident, which is I mean, my god, look,
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  Speaker 3: I know a large a lot of the people who
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: are watching right now, we're literally not even alive to
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  Speaker 3: see all that. In fact, I'll talk about this later.
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  Speaker 3: One of the troops who was killed was literally not
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  Speaker 3: even alive whenever that propaganda was made. He was born
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  Speaker 3: four to five years after nine to eleven, and he
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  Speaker 3: just died in Kuwait fighting in another Middle Eastern War.
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  Speaker 3: But just to think about how the recycling of the
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  Speaker 3: talking points, of the personalities of Dana Perino. I saw
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  Speaker 3: a screenshot of her yesterday. It was like war in
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  Speaker 3: Iran going so successful. I think it was Tommy Veeder.
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  Speaker 3: He's like privileged to be alive to watch her chill
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  Speaker 3: for a regime change war as a bush flack. And
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  Speaker 3: now on Fox News brit Hume, who was there for both,
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  Speaker 3: is doing the same nonsense. Conda Lieza Rice was on
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  Speaker 3: yesterday on Fox talking about oh, President, mister President finished
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  Speaker 3: the job. The same cast of characters who are here
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  Speaker 3: to sell us the same lives.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why it would have been really important
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  Speaker 2: to excise all of these people from public life. But
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: the vast of the majority of them just failed up
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  Speaker 2: and are still with us and in some cases in
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  Speaker 2: control powerful institutions today. So no, I mean, it is
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  Speaker 2: so insane that we are now in this rapidly escalating,
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  Speaker 2: out of control escalation regional war with unknown, cascading, damaging impacts,
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  Speaker 2: and the President of the United States cannot even tell us,
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  Speaker 2: why can't even tell us, Why can't tell us, why
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  Speaker 2: can't tell us?
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Now every day from a different official, we get a
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  Speaker 2: different explanation. Now, to be clear, I'm opposed to all
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  Speaker 2: of those explanations, but it is utter insanity that they
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  Speaker 2: launched this without even having their story straight about what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing, why we're doing it, and why we're doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You are asking the American taxpayer to flip the bill
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  Speaker 2: for billions of dollars. The estimate is a billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Every single day that this goes on, you are asking
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  Speaker 2: these service members to risk their lives for a conflict
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  Speaker 2: that you cannot even explain. Why we're doing it and
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  Speaker 2: why now. It is so insane that we are at
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  Speaker 2: this place. And yet here we are, I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: is very little public support for this. We have all
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: sorts of problems here at home. You know, they just
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: refuse to extend the ACA subsidies as one example. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the cost of this war already could have covered the
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: cost of the increase in premiums for millions of Americans.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, that's where we are.
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  Speaker 2: And every day the president comes out and has some
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  Speaker 2: new story about what the hell is going on here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a new Pentagon estimate from Nancy Yusef. She's
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  Speaker 3: a longtime Pentagon reporter. I've known her for years. She's
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  Speaker 3: very good. She says, the internal assessment is one billion
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  Speaker 3: dollars per day that the war continues to go on.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably on the low end because it doesn't even
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  Speaker 3: factor in all of the downstream costs about moving a
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: carrier strike group. I mean, I've talked about this here
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  Speaker 3: on our show before. A single carrier strike group operating
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: costs just to be able to keep them where they
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  Speaker 3: are is about one hundred to two hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: There are two carrier strike groups that are currently there
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  Speaker 3: in the region, not to mention all of the munitions,
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  Speaker 3: not to mention then all of the lost munitions and
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  Speaker 3: the ability to replace them, which we can't even do
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  Speaker 3: at the current rate, where hundreds of billions of dollars
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  Speaker 3: of equipment of man military are already there, and then
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  Speaker 3: the actual cost just of ramping things up is now
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  Speaker 3: some one billion dollars per day. It's absurd. Let's also
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: take an update here on this girls' school bombing that
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  Speaker 3: happened on the first day of the campaign. Yesterday during
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  Speaker 3: the Pentagon briefing, there was a there was a map
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  Speaker 3: that was displayed to the public and actually on that
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  Speaker 3: map was a specific dread diamond which was on both
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  Speaker 3: sides of Minim, which is exactly where that girl strikes
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  Speaker 3: or that girls school strike took place. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of questions now as to whether it was actually
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: the United States and not Israel that carried out that strike.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: They're saying that there's an ongoing investigation, but he was
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: asked about it by the BBC.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Can you give us an update on what the administration knows?
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: What you know now about the reported strike on a girls'
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: school in southern Iran on Saturday.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: All I know, all I can say is that we're
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: investigating that. We of course never target civilian targets, but
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: we're taking a look at investigating that red time front.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: Just on the basis that with the information you would
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: have your reconnaissancibilities ability to gather information. I mean it's
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: several days on now, so is there any clarity on
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: whose munition this was.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: We're investigating it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: We are investigating it.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And again to make clear, if you look at the
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: map that was there and you plot the scroll right there,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: it's literally right in the cluster zone.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I mean the Israelis.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I've already seen their own propaganda there like it wasn't US,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But if it was US, it would have been fine
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: because it was an IRGC base. In fact, there's some
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: questions here because apparently it was near an older IRGC
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: base as to whether this was updated intelligence. But this
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: is exactly the problem. I mean, who knows put together
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: that strike package?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Was it ai?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You know that was used to say, plot all of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: the known places and then feed that into the military.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: The fact that they're not ruling it out immediately, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: will tell you having covered many of these things, that's
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a problem.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: That's a big, big problem.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: So this is the total Israelification of the United States
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: of America. I mean, this is exactly the type of
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to the extent that Israel would ever get pressed on.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You just murdered a bunch of children, you just murdered
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a bunch of patients in the hospital, whatever, When it
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: would actually become a problem for them, this is what
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: they would say, Oh, we're going to investigate it, we'll
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: get back to you. And then do they ever investigate it,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Do they ever get back to you, let alone, are
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: there ever any consequences for anyone who was part of
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: that decision making, you know the answer to that. And
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: we can put the next piece up on the screen
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: because we now have more reporting about exactly how this
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: strike went down and again the Israelification of the US.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: It was apparently a double tap strike. And you guys
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: know what these are intended to do. You hit an
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: area once. This area happened to be a girls' school
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: with children, you know, age roughly like seven to twelve
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: who were murdered. Okay, Then people gather, they you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: they get the survivors, parents, Russian first responders to try
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to help, to try to you know, staunch the bleeding
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and help anyone who can be rescued. And then once
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they've gathered, what do you do? You hit them again.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: That's apparently according to reporting here from Middle East I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: that is what happened in this case. And I just
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: want you all to remember that five seconds ago, this
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: president and this whole regime was talking about how much
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: they care for the Iranian people. They want the Iranian
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: people to be free, They want their Iranian people to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: throw off their oppressors. They stand with the protesters in
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the streets, and now here we are murdering their little girls.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And you know, furthermore to the israelification of this war,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what appears to have happened is initially there were you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: these precision strikes that took out a bunch of the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Iranian leadership, including assassinating the Ayazola, and they were hoping
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that would just lead to some sort of regime collapse,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: which I think also was the hope when Israel initially
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: went into Gazakaase he talked about it all the time,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and that didn't happen. So now what are they doing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: They're just carpet bombing Tehran using fewer precision munitions, more
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: just dumb bombs to you know, drop on a location
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and cause severe damage. And there is an irony here
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: as well, because some of the regimes biggest opponents, the
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Iranian regimes biggest opponents are in Tehran, Like that's where
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the you know, more secular, more highly educated, more liberal
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: like the you know, the various protest movements have largely
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: started in Tehran. There are other you know, areas of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: resistance to the Iranian government as well within the country,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: but Tehran is a hotbed and that's the place where
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the most death and destruction and chaos, which Pete Hegseth
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is out there bragging about. That's where they really focused
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to these bombing campaigns.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Look like I said, we don't know if it was
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: us or not. I can just say, having covered the Pentagon,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: usually these investigations and all, if it's not us, they
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: usually say pretty quickly, and if it is, it drags
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: on for a while before somebody does eventually admit it
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: and it will be a gigantic sandle and it should be.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And I saw some of these in Afghanistan, in Iraq covered.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that hospital that was that was struck? Yes,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan, I cover that entire thing. It was a
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: total nightmare. A lot of the initial statements that came
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: out from the military were totally not true. A lot
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: of the investigation later that followed up it was horrific
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of what actually ended up happening. I really hope that
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: it wasn't us. However, you know, part of the danger
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: is that between US and Israel it's going to be
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a big you know, it's like, are we going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: just come out and say actually it was them? And
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: then they're you know, they're very happy to say, actually, no,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it was us. And somebody did it, you know, And
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: initially there was some Israeli claims, They're like, oh, it
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: was a failed IRGC missile and all of that. There's
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: no evidence now currently to suggest any of that. But
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: this will be a major major hit to the prestige
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the US military. And I mean, even if it was israelative,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it was done in a joint conjunction with US. Is
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: really strike. There's a lot of complicity that comes in
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that too, for not just selling the weapons, for supporting
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: or being part and attached to something like that. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: it does show you even the dangers of a so
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: called precision bombing campaign, which Professor Robert Pape has really
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: been warning about.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, between the it being you know, a dot
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: on the map of the strike locations and the fact
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that they will not say that it was not US,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems pretty there are two suspects, Israel
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: or the US. And you know the fact that we're
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: not denying it at this point I think makes it
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: pretty clear what ultimately happened here. On your point about AI,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I think is a really important one, just to pause
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: on for a moment. Part of why Gaza was so
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: deadly and so horrifying is because it was the first
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you know, AI enabled ultimately genocide and the amount of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: target generation that was created is what helped to enable
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the death and destruction in Gaza. And now you have
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you know, they're still using Claude, they're still using Anthropic,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: even though they're having some whole spat over that, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you know, Anthropic as much as they have this brand
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: that they've publicly created. Oh we're the good guys and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we care about humanity, blah blah blah. Well, that's the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: AI that is being used to generate strike packages and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: presumably to help create the level of death and destruction
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and the deadly nature of what's going on here. You know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the estimates are at this point some around one thousand
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Iranians who have been killed, although it's very difficult to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: know precisely what the numbers are for them.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So let's then turn to what I thought was one
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: of the most single disgraceful utterances by a US Secretary
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: of Defense ever. Here is Secretary Hegsath who is chastising
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the media for covering the depths of American soldiers and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: not appropriately cheerleading the war on enough. I couldn't believe
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: it whenever I saw this happen live. Let's take a listen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: This is what the fake news misses. We've taken control
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: of Iran's airspace and waterways without boots on the ground.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We control their fate.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: But when a few drones get through or tragic things happen,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: it's front page news.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: The press only wants to make the president look bad,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: but try for once to report the reality. The terms
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: of this war will be set by us at every step.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: And so he is saying that the fake news does
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: their part by trying to make the president look bad
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: because some tragic things happen. Can you imagine a more
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: disgraceful statement where he is chastising us for covering the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: deaths of American American soldiers, by the way, who it
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: appears were not in a properly fortified tactile operation center, who,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: by their own admission, I mean, one of these women
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: who was killed in the strike, had apparently spoken to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: her husband according to his own interviews, about how she
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: was worried about what was going on. She was working
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: here in the tactical Operation center, and what they had
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: done is that they were fighting like the last war,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So they put up these walls that were around the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: operation center which were designed for suicide bomb attacks. But
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: anybody who has watched literally anything about the now four
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: year long war in Ukraine knows that that's not how
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: it was going to come. Any sort of attack, it
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was going to be by a suicide drone. And that
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: is exactly what happened, which appeared to have a direct
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: strike directly on here, which raises a whole number of questions.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Number one, why was there no counter drone stuff that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was even prepared? Right now, the US military is scrambling
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and is going to buy counter or drone technology from
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the Ukrainians. Not sure why we have to buy it
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: since we're the ones who paid for it, but okay,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: so we're going to buy all of this counter drone
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: technology stuff from the Ukrainians, which means that we didn't
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: do any studying. We actually didn't prepare properly for a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: lot of the bases. By Donald Trump's own admission, they
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: have said that they were not prepared for some of
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the strikes that were on the Gulf. So that means
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: there wasn't an active, active planning that happened inside. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: now six of these Americans are dead. And what's worst
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: about it is that they keep saying, oh, that's just
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the first of many to come. They keep saying, oh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: more casualties could be more. I mean, God only knows
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: are there more that they haven't told us about?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Hope not right?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Having covered this for a long time, usually they just
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: come out within twenty four hours. But at the very least,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: they're expecting more. And the fact that they're expecting and
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: preparing a public for more and this is the way
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that they want to cover it is beyond disgraceful, beyond disgraceful.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: So let's you know, they don't want us to cover
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: apparently these troops because it's bad for morale. It's not
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: our job to do morale. That's not our job at all.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Let's put some of these up here on this screen.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: The Pentagon is now idd six of the soldiers who
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: were killed in the Kuwait attack. Many of them were
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: attached to this army reserve unit out of Des Moines, Iowa.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: And actually from their ranks you can see that many
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: of these were very senior US Army personnel. But the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: one that sticks with me is this one Sergeant decland Cody.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He was twenty years old. He was a student in
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: He was a student who was studying information systems, who
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: was taking classes online from Kuwait, and again a member
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: of the US Army Reserve. And I want this also
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: show everybody too. These are people who never I mean, look,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: they volunteered. I'm not stepping away from that, but it
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: shows you the problem of our over extended empire is
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that our bases have to be staffed by US Army
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: reservis because we don't even have enough troops to be
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: able to staff all these even in a potential active
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: war zone. And here you have a twenty year old
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: kid who had his entire life ahead of him, who
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: was born And I just can't get away from this
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: four to five years after nine to eleven, who just
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: perished in another American war in the Middle East. How
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: does that not break your heart. I've covered so many
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: of these over the years, written obituaries for kids younger
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: than me. I wrote my first obituary for a kid
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: who was younger than me nine years ago who stepped
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: on an ied in Iraq. And know so many people
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: who were wounded, or even families of the people who
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: were killed, who were over there, and now we have
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: another one, and the Secretary of Defense is telling us
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: that it is basically, this is two thousand and two,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight BS.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Freedom isn't free.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: The only way to support our troops and more in
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: our dead is to support the war, is to support
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: the president. And there is nothing less patriotic actually than that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And we're not falling for this bullshit again. We are
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: not falling for this bullshit again. I just think it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: so it's not just about disgrace. If you ask me,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: there hasn't been enough meat coverage actually of these people,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: because we should learn the cost. We talked about the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: girls they're dead. Okay, little girls are dead. Who knows
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: who killed them? Now these these people, they're dead. I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: these American soldiers are dead at the decision point of
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the United States president of the Israeli president, and their
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: blood it's on the it's on our leadership. Yeah, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: we should be able to say that without being denigrated
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: as cowards or anti you know, you know, anti war,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: anti American. It's anti American to mourn the deaths of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: a twenty year old kid who was in Kuwait, right,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: It's just it really really gets me.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: It reminds so much of how they were trying to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: during their Rock warhide the coffins coming home. They didn't
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: want photographs, they didn't want pictures of that, because, yeah,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: they don't want people to actually grapple with the cost
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, the elites of this country, it's not
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: their sons and daughters buy and large, you go and
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: fight and die, and these wars barons not gonna be
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: headed over there anytime soon. And they seem to view
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: all of this like it's some kind of game or
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you know, TV show is I mean, obviously we have
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a reality TV president, but Pete hegsath too is primarily
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a TV personality, and he's a man who is clearly
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: out of his depth and he knows that, and so
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: he has adopted this persona that he thinks makes him
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: look like a tough guy. And he's adopted these sort
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of like habits of discourse that he's drawn from, you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: what he thinks Trump would say. And Trump's the ultimate,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you know, the ultimate daddy figure for the MAGA, right,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and so he thinks that by lashing out at the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: fake news media trying to make the president look good,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: look bad, rather that he's going to look like a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: big man.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: He's going to look like he's doing the right thing here.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean this whole presser where he's
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: talking about we're going to rain down death and destruction.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: He's playing a character. He's decided he wants to adopt
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: this persona of like a comic book villain. And that's
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: his whole approach to this, because he does not know
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: what he's doing. We were before this, I mean, at
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the very beginning of the administration, we're reporting about how
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the Pentagon is total chaos under him, like he.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Has no business being in this position.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And what a disgrace that now we have American service
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: members dead, we have Iranian civilians dead, We have people
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: dead throughout the entire region.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Huaighty soldiers who've been killed, absolutely guards, random personnel, airport guys.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Israelis are blown up the police stations
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: in Iran because they want to foment chaos and civil
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: war and some sort of uprising. And the President of
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the United States cannot even give a straight answer about
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: what the hell the goal is and why we're doing it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Just think about that, and you know, I keep coming
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: back to some of the emails that reveal the way
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that these people just do not see others below the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: elite class as being truly human. So they're happy to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: throw you know, your sons and daughters into a meat
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: grinder because you know, for whatever reasons, because Israel pressure
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: does because I want to look like a big, tough guy,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: because I feel like more of a man when I
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: can send American fighters in potentially to their death. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: you know, that's it's sick, it's depraved, and that's exactly
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: what's going on here.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I want to call now for a video which is
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: put out by the White House where they literally edited
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: war that is currently happening with an intro from a
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: video game, just to show you the entertainment value.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. So there you go. They're literally
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: tweeting out that's an actual video.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: We're released by the White House of the United States
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: of America with the title courtesy of the Red, White,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: and Blue Country music Lyrics and video games.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's not a game.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: It's not a game to the family of a twenty
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: year old, it's not a game to a mother of two.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And think about you know some of these some of
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: these people there. You read their stories in this NBC
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: News article. They're like, oh, she loved gardening, you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: and these people are dead. Not to mention some of
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: these girls and others in Iowa, they're mourning them. You know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the university of this kid went to. They're talking about, Oh,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: he was so great and loved his work. Is his
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: father and sister.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Talking about this.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: His sister was talking about how upset she was thinking
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: about how scared he was near the end. People shouldn't
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: have to think that or if their lives are going
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: to be on the line. And everyone's like, oh, they
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: volunteered for it. I mean, look, yeah, I think they volunteered,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you know, with the theory at least, I think the
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: theory that their lives would not be fodder for video
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: games and for you know, egomaniacal power plays or being
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: jerked around religious religious blood.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Holy wars exactly.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: And so that is the ultimate you know, screw you,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I think, to an all volunteer military force.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the military brass the share of the
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Joint chiefs was warning like, it's not like they didn't know, right,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're not rocket scientists over here, and we've
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: been tracking this problem with the stockpiles of weaponry and
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: interceptors in for two ticular. You know, this drone technology
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: has been used extensively in Ukraine, these Shahid drones, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: so this was all known, it was all very predictable,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and yet you know, these individuals, these service members were
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: in completely unprotected in like a triple wide trailer, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the US rushes into this thing because of whatever basket
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of weird reasons, many of which we still don't even know.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: But with this, yeah, this holy war, you know, justification
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: now increasingly coming out. Of course, he set's got his
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Crusader Cross tattoo, et cetera, et cetera. Trump who knows
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: what's in the Epstein files and what his and the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: money he's taken from Miriam Addelson and what all is
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: going on in the background, And he feels like such
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a big tough guy after Venezuela, and all of that
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: fuels now us being pushed into this conflict that the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: American people do not support. And so yeah, it's sad.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: These these individuals trusted the American government to take their
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: live series and to not risk their lives without a
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: good reason. And ultimately, you know, they were betrayed. Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that's the bottom line.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly, and I think everybody should be able to say that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Turning now to some updates on the battlefield, a huge
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: decision leaking out now from Washington. Let's put this up
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: here on the screen. Do cape some of this in
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: mind that things are fast moving and this itself could
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: be a bit of a change. But what they are
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: reporting is that Trump calls on the Kurds to aid
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: US effort in Iran, quote offers support. In my opinion,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: they're dramatically underplaying this because they say quote and calls
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: this week to Kourdish minority leaders in Iran and neighboring Iraq.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: President Trump has offered quote extensive US air cover and
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: other backing for anti regime Iranian Kurds to take over
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: portions of western Iran. This is basically the two thousand
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: and one Afghanistan model. And this is the closest that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: we are going to come now so far of an
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: admission about boots on the ground. In fact, Crystal, if
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: you pair some of the fear of those Democratic senators,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I believe that this is what it was about. Because
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: just to explain, if you weren't following the way that
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it worked is that we had these so called like
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: special Forces advisors that were on the ground with the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Northern Alliance. They were calling in air strikes. We had
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: air cover that would come in support the Army CIA. Actually,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I believe the CIA officer were the first person was
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: even killed in the war in Afghanistan. So you could
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: see that this is exactly the way that this would
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: that this would happen. We know from some previous reporting
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: already that many of these Kurdish separatist groups inside of
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Iran have had CIA munitions provided to them now for weeks.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: In addition to Massad.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: It would make sense too because we know from the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Masad and from others that there was a lot of
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: smuggling to inside of Iran during the protest movement, which
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: would make sense.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: We also know in northern Iraq, which is where all
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: the Kurds is Kurdistan as part of that country, that
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: many of these groups, you know, it's like transnational in
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: terms of moving back and forth. There's a lot of
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: loyalty of course, and support from the military. There's a
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: military base. If there was a US support civil war effort.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: This is exactly what it would look like this would
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: of course be a direct effort to balkanize and destroy
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: the entire country.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: That's what you do.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: This is civil war. This is the Afghanistan, Libya, Syria model.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: What you do You pour a bunch of weapons into
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: a group and you basically say we've got your back.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You don't actually have their back, as the Curs I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: think have learned for many years, but you will be
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: a useful tool. Yeah, they probably have. I don't know
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: this time. We promise right this time. So what We're
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: going to give you a bunch of weapons, We'll give
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you some air cover. We're going to use you as
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: a tool, as a cudgel to basically try to destroy
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the regime in the interim.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Who's going to take that? Laying down? Oh, Ankara, I'm
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sure that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: The Turks will just be like, oh, for sure, will
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: allow an independent Curtistan to happen.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Nope, not going to happen.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: There will be some funneling itself of weapons, perhaps their
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: own use of air strikes. Everything I'm talking about already
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: happened in Syria literally within the last decade.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: We know that this will happen. And then what's going
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that's going to inspire some sectarian conflict, which usually
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: goes super well. Right for the United States, We've definitely
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: got a handle on that. A nationalism, let's say, amongst
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: the Iranian population, which is still loyal to the regime.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: They'll call up young people. It's as if the Irani
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Rock War, one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: had never happened before.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Look at their capacity.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: For suffering, for death, to be able to absorb all
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: of these losses, even whenever we're striking them from the air.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: So could this is not just an effort at regime chain,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: it is an effort at regime collapse. Yeah, a full
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: blown insurgency. Ninety two million people live in this country,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: so many different popular with Azaris and all these other
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: people who are all talking right now, they'll get involved,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: their proxies and others will funnel weapons, and it will
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: look like Syria or Libya completely collapse, failed state, except
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: with ten x the population. Refugees going everywhere, already seeing
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: reports about people trying to leave the country of Iran. Yesterday,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: somebody was talking to me about this Pakistani faction on
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: their border and their own funding that we could potently
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: use as a cudgel there.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, prepared to get acquainted with terms like Blokis
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: and Kurds. And now there's a Christian population Azari's. It's
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: not just one homogeneous population who all hate us, regardless
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: of what the Trump administration is trying to sell us.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: This is the most dangerous turn yet. This is the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Seria Libya model. They don't want to declare victory, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I think this is why the Democratic senators were sounding
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the alarm. There is no possibility of some sort of
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: armed incursion where you just give them the weapons, where
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: there aren't you special advisors on the ground. That's a
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: boot on the ground, regardless of how they want to
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: define it or not. Happen in Afghanistan, happened in Libya,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: happen happen in Syria as well. Then that's why we
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: just withdrew all of our But why do you think
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: we had all those bases in Syria for exactly operations
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like this? So this is I mean also the last thing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: This is an absolute confirmation. This is going to happen forever,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: like you don't six weeks, eight weeks. No, this is
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: a year's long commitment at this point if they're going
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: to go down this road.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: So we don't know.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, some sources claiming that it's already happening, some
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: saying no, that that's fake news. But regardless from the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: very top, the President of the United States on the
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: phone with regime change activists saying, Oh, we're going to
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: give you air cover.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: That's a you know, as long as it gets in
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: terms of foreign entanglement.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to learn from those. It could
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: put be one up on the screen, because initially there
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: were these very certain reports from all of the regime stenographers,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: like the Barock revieds et cetera, that Kurdish forces in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: a Rock had launched a ground military offensive into a Run,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that this was happening. They had crossed the borders, they
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: were in I run and we covered before how you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: we had taken out a bunch of these border guards
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: along the border to enable exactly this. So it felt,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you know, it seemed credible and it's exactly the kind
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: of shit that we do all the time, and that
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the Israelis would be interested exactly for this reason to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: try to collapse the state this seems to have been
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: based on what we can tell, put B two up
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: on the screen more of a sy op and wish
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: casting than it was an actual reality in terms of
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: facts on the ground, because the leaders of various of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: these Kurdish factions denied that any of this was happening.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: So this is from drop site News some exclusive reporting
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: from them, they say. Multiple media reports, including some citing
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: anonymous US officials, have indicated Kurdish militants have now crossed
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: from Iraq into Iran in order to seize Kurdish territory
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: in spark and uprising. The reports follow claims the CIA
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: has been seeking to arm Kurdish fighters to destabilize Iran.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Such an incursion remains a future possibility, but well informed
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: sources tell drop site News no such evasion has yet
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: to take place. Journalist Alexis Delumi, who is in Syrian
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and Iraqi Kurdistan reporting for drop Site incredible they have.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: This person reports that three sources from the Kurdish Liberation
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: movement with knowledge of the situation have told him no
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: such invasion is underway and that PJAKA the only Kurdish
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: organization with robust military capacity that is part of the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: coalition being discussed is unlikely to make such a move
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: at this moment. Now, what have these reports done.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: For one thing, they create the idea in the public
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that you are going to have this uprising, that you
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: have these forces coming in, that there's this ground invasion,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and by the way, of course, they don't talk about
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: our direct involvement in any of this, that there's this natural,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: organic uprising. It also makes these Kurdish forces targets for
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the Iranians, and in fact, there were reports yesterday that
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the Iranians started bombing some of the Kurdish forces and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: factions as a result of this reporting, saying that a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: ground invasion had already begun. All of this is a
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: long way to say there are already multiple syops that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: are being operated by our government, by the Israelis no doubt,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: by the Iranians as well, And so be very very
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: leery of any of the information that comes out wait
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: until things are confirmed with evidence, because the information warfare
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: is just as thick and just as heavy handed as
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: the actual warfare on the ground.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right, very important, But also you can gleam,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you can glean this, what you can gleam is that
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: they want the impression of a civil war to happen,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to widen the war, to collapse the regime, to get
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: them afraid inside. None of this is consistent with any
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: of the current statements, like at least that are on
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: the record from the Secretary of State, from the Vice President,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: They're like, look, we just want to degrade their capacity,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and we would prefer if somebody took over who was better.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: But we're not going to do very much about it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: That's not the same thing.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: That is not what we are watching all happen in
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: front of our eyes. Let's actually take a look now
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: at some of these strikes that are coming out from Tehran.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: From a limited amount of video that we've been able
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to see, by the way, we should get some better video.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: We have a couple of international journalists to just crass
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the Iranian border this morning, but you can see I mean,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I mean this is in broad daylight, just blowing the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: crap out.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Of buildings people.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You have millions of people in a highly urban area.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: There are some reporting I've seen that a large portion
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: of the city has been evacuated. But what you could
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: really take away, I think from that is that these
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: are Look again, we don't even know if it's US
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: or Forsraeli strikes. The US government has already said, oh
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: my god, you know so much is happening.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We haven't even cut this.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Did you notice the Secretary of Defense and General Kine brag.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: They said, some of you may remember Iraq two thousand
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: and three. We have dropped twice the amount of bombs
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: from two thousand and three Shakanaw. And I was like, wait,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: we're bragging about that. I was like, do we look
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: back on that as a victory? Did anybody at the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: White House go, do we really want comparisons to Shakanaw.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: So they're telling us, you can literally take their own
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: word for it. We've dropped two times the amount of
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: bombs in Shakanaw in the middle of Iraq. If you
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: remember what all of that looked like. So remember again
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: about censorship and about some of the video very limited
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: amount that is already coming out. We should hopefully be
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: able to get a little bit more information as some
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: of these international journalists continue to cross into Iran. Let's
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: also again just to underscore that point, here's a clip
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: from CNN where they're openly saying, hey, we would show
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: you this, but the Israeli government doesn't want us to.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen, we're not showing you that because
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: we're not going to show Israeli government does not allow
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: us or want us to show where that may have come.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Up that interceptor.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we're not going to show you that. I mean,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: thanks for the honesty, I guess. But it does demonstrate
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: and we've seen this from Trey Yanks, from Jeremy Diamond,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: now from CNN and others. They're very consistent about, hey,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: we can't show this to you because the Israeli government
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: well less In fact, there was a CNN Turk crew
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: filming crew who was arrest detained on camera while they
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: were filming in the middle of Israel, and the Israelis
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: were like, hey, you got to stop, and they took
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the camera down and they started taking you remember during
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the Twelve Day War they did the same thing when
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you were showing some of the damage that had already happened.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: We do know from just from the ballistic missile alerts
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: that there were tons of alerts last night and I
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: wake up this morning, nothing, there's no video at all.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: It's like really you intercepted all of them.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: And yet that's what the level of war reporting is
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: right now. Remember in Gaza too, that they would often
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: take journalists on a ride and then confiscate or check
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: their footage whenever they were coming out, and they said,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: you're only allowed to report whatever we tell you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: So everyone be extremely wary of what that looks like.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: They're still not allowing international journalists inside of Gaza. So
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I mean that, yeah, that's the level of control. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: look it goes without saying. It's crazy how these quote
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: unquote journalists they just accept this, like they don't even
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: feel ashamed when they're telling you, like, oh, we're not
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: going to show this because the Israeli government doesn't want
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you to. I feel like, I mean, they definitely would
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: feel more sense of upset if it was the American
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: government telling that. If it was Trump, you know who
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: was saying oh, you can't film that, they'd be like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: screw you, We're going to film in any way.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Press freedom.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: But when it's the Israeli, oh, we've got to listen
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to the Israelis can't show that, et cetera, et cetera.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It's crazy to that point, you know, let's put b
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: ten actually up on the screen, because you know, it's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: clear that the person who really has the broader plan
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: in mind and is driving the train at this point
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: is Benjamin Netanyahu.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: So it's very important to pay attention to.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: The Israeli press to statements from net Yahoo and his
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: crew of total psychos that are over there in Israel
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that are driving the show, that have their own like
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you know, biblical religious like blood feud ideas in mind
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: here as well. But in any case, this was an
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: important article from the Financial Times because it has some
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: reporting about the way the Israelis are thinking about this.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: It says Israel expects weeks long war against Iran, in
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: other words, not some quick in and out. There was
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: some reporting that net Yahoo was concerned that Trump may
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: have been talking to the Iranians through back channels and
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: had to like check in and make sure that there's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: not any possibility that this war's going to end anytime soon.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that those you know, back channels were
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: open anyway, but nan Yahoo had to check in and
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: make sure that the war was going to keep going.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: We need war, death, more destruction, war chaos more, refugee crisis, etc.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: In any case, an analyst told the Financial Time, summarizing
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the Israeli government's position, quote, if we can have a coup, great,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: If we can have people on the streets, great, If
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: we can have a civil war, great. Israel could not
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: care less about the future or the stability of Iran.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: That is a point of difference between US and the US.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I think Washington is more concerned about nation building and
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: threats to their regional partners.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: So put that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Together with the reporting about the at least arming and
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: of these Kourdish factions and trying to push them to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: invade and spark some sort of a local uprising, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you can see whose plan is in control.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the Israelis sold Trump. I don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: know what Trump is dumb enough to believe in terms
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: of what could be accomplished, whether he really did buy that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: If you just take out the iatola and you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: they're going to greet us as liberators with flowers in
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: the streets, and we're going to have this great democratic
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Iran that's going to love the United States of America
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and want to do all sorts of business deals with
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you and the Trump Tower Tehran is going to be
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: going up any minute.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Was actually dumb enough to believe that, But now that
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: he has certainly been disabused of that notion, if he
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: had that notion before, well what other plan can there
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: possibly be other than we want to collapse this entire state.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: We just want chaos, We just want mayhem. The literal
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: quote here is if we can have a civil war, great,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Think of how sick that is. Think of how destabilizing.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And you're talking about a country of ninety million people.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Think about the blowback and spiral effects that we can't
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: even contemplate at this point. I mean, we just have
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the roadmap of like a rock and what we saw
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: happen there, Libyan, what we saw happen there. You know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: it's incredibly unpredictable when you destabilize, or when your goal
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: is to thoroughly destabilize a country as large and as
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: diverse and as important for the global economy as Iran is.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And yet you know that's what that's what Israel is
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: aiming for. And by you know, for whatever reason, the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: US has decided to go along with that plan. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: that is the actual plan that is in action now.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And to Sager's point, there is no way this thing
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: is going to be quick. We're not going to be
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: getting out of here anytime.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: There's only one Trump would have to make, the heroic decision,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: the actual heroic decision of saying I fucked up and
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I had this is over.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: He could have only decisions.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: He could have after they assassinated the Ietola. He could
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: have claimed that this was some glorious victory and they're
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: gonna you know, they're not gonna do a nuke, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: so we can mission accomplished.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: See you later. Let's just not talk about this again.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And he didn't take that, you know, we didn't take
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that opportunity for you know, reasons that continue to remain
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: somewhat shrouded in mystery.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: And let's just say now that at this point we're
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: in it. You know. Now, Americans are dead. Now, installations,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: bases are hit. Let's put be six up.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Here on the screens, falling right. Yeah, three fighter jets
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: which have all.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Been actually accidentally accidentally by the Kuwaitis.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Apparently shows you the level of coordination.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: This from the New York Times, which we're showing you
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: some of these images demonstrate some of the bases which
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: have been hit, and you can actually see the various
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: different structures, all of which have either been wiped out.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: These are very sophisticated suicide drone strikes by the Iranians,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: very targeted at radar systems and communications specifically because those
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: are the coordinating radar from much of the interceptors and others.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: This could explain perhaps why we've seen some of the
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: strikes that have already happened, Iranian strikes inside of the
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Gulf countries, because they rely on some of these communication
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: infrastructures and radars to be able to be able to
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: coordinate their air defense. And they say US military communication
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: infratructure highly classified, making it difficult to determine what exact systems,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: but the targeted locations seem to indicate Iran was aiming
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: to disrupt the ability to communicate and to coordinate. And
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, we've already seen problems with that in Kuwait.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: They say Iran has attacked the military cary communications capacity
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: even recently as June whenever it tried to hit Qatar.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: In multiple of these instances we saw and that kuwate
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: or sorry that Qatar bass is really troubling because you
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: could see a big impact that happened in one of
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: those images. And just to beat the drum on our stockpiles,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: let's go to B seven please and put this on
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the screen. This is the clearest sign yet so far
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: that things are not nearly as rosy as they're trying
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to paint. Defense executives are now planning to meet at
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the White House as strikes on Iran diminish stockpiles. So
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: basically it's like an emergency summer. It's basically like an
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: emergency summoning to the White House where the White House
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: is going to read them a riot Act and they're like, hey,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: you guys need to create more missiles. And they're like
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: we can't because it's not just a process which gets
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: spun up overnight. It actually takes years, which is why
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: people like us have been talking about this four years.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It's all out, there's public record. They have to show this, literally,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: they have to show and allocate the number missiles and
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: interceptors and all these other things that they buy in Congress.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I've gotten so much pushback, like as if you know that,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: it's not about me knowing.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: It's like they.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Published the document. Literally, Congress can even tell you. That's
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: because they have to report to them. It's all in files.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: You can go and check it for yourself if you
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: want to. What we see inside this report, this summoning
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: of these defense executives is that even if we try
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: to throw the money at them, that the timeline for
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: production takes years. Like you could literally try to nationalize
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: the industry and even with that, you could not x
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: the capacity enough to be able to fulfill already what
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: we have used in this conflict. So that means that
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: we have a couple of options you have to use.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: As you were talking about dumb bombs, it's not exactly right,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: but like, we have a large stackpile of these jadeams,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: but what we don't have are these interceptors, these Tomahawk
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: missiles or nearly as much, and the capacity to replace
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: them is extremely difficult and they're massively expensive. So that
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: means while we do have stockpiles elsewhere that you have
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: to take it from there. Well, there's already a huge
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: shit storm in the military because a lot of the
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: people who are in charge of defending the Pacific are like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: we can't give this up because if we give it.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Up to you.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: A that leaves us super super unreliable over here to
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: all of our allies, Japan, South Korea, all of these
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: actually massively important countries to the United States, China, Taiwan,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: all of these problems that we're having. I was listening
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to a Brandon Whitkirt this morning in an interview, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: he was speculating that it's based on some reporting or
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: things that he had heard, that there are Chinese and
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Russian intelligence that are being shared could explain why the
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Iranians have the ability to hit some of these things.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: What I mean, can you put it out of the question?
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: The United States is basically doing all those strike packages
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: for the Ukrainians. We're spying on the Russians and then
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: giving the coordinates to them. Why do you think they
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want to?
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And this is great.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: They get to test all of our munitions, deplete them,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: see exactly how they work, and strike at our capacity.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: And what are we doing all of us for? I've
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: seen all this five D chess. Oh, this is all
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: about a message to China. This is what a joke? Nonsense, right?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: This is one of the best things.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: China that we're pathetic and allow our service members to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: be blown up in triple wide trailers.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: And make sup protecttionally right. And the Chinese are like, oh okay,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: They're like this is great. They're like, we could turn
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: this into their Vietnam or their Afghanistan. Let's flood as
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: much of this as we possibly can, make it difficult,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: bog them down. There's nothing they could want more. It's
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: the same thing that we used to argue about in Ukraine.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: They argued it with some sort of deterrence. Nope, if anything,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: it actually depleted as.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: They already are admitting.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: They are literally admitting the United States military that we
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: sent a huge number to Ukraine and we don't have
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the capacity to backfill some of the people in the Gulf.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: And of course we haven't even talked enough about the
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands, if not one million plus Americans who
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: are basically stranded all across the Middle East who have
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: no way to get out. The State Department is like,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: is emergency trying to create an evacuation scenario now, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: now they're competing though with the military for military aircraft
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: to be able to use to get them out. There's
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: no planned evacuation as of right now, so we have
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: almost a week of hostilities that are happening, and people
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: are sheltering if they want to leave. I read a
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: story about some mother whare to take a bus for
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: seven and a half hours and it takes six flights
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: to be able to get back to Chicago. Can you
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: imagine that she's a pregnant lady, She's sitting on a
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: bunch for seven and a half hours from Israel to
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Egypt and then has to catch a flight like to
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: nine different places before she can come back to Chicago.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: That's one person.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: She's lucky enough to be able to get out, So
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: think about the number of people that can't, with small
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: children or others.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. It's a total nightmare.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And just to go back to that that article
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: about them, you know, rushing into defense execs and demanding
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: that they produce more is really extraordinary because also keep
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: in mind Trump was just posting on true social about
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: how we are stockpiles are virtually unlimited. We could do
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: war forever if we want. I mean, the man that
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: he is just such an incredible liar. And then you
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: see the panic behind the scenes of like, oh my god,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: we got to get these guys in here and hope
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that yelling at them somehow magically creates more stockpiles.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And somehow Trump I think he because he has faced
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: so many times where he is We've said it before,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: he's like the luckiest.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Man on the planet.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: So often things just the ball happens to bounce his way.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: And you know, all the critics said that Venezuela would
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: be a disaster, but look, I couldnap Maduro and it
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: went fine. In his view, this was no problem whatsoever.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: You know, all of the tariffs, they said they crashed
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the economy, well they weren't great for the economy, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the stock market kept going up. So he
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: looks at that and he was like, they were wrong.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Everything was fine. I think he just doesn't live in
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: a reality where anything matters. So when he hears these
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: you know generals who came in and were like, listen,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: we have no answer for these drones, these like thirty
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: to fifty thousand dollar drones that they can spin up
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: like crazy and produce mass quantities of We really have
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: no answer for that. Our stockpiles are already low. We
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: cannot protect all of our allies in the region, like
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: our golf allies are also running low on interceptors.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: This is a bad idea.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: He just does not take that seriously because he thinks, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: these type of experts have said I was wrong before,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: and I've always proven them wrong.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: I know more about this.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: And by the way, my friend Natania, who was telling
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: me that this is all going to be great, and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: bbe here in DC all the time, talking to Trump
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: on the phone, talking to other officials on the phone
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: all the time. And when you have a when you
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: have someone like nat Nyahu and his government with a
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: really clear goal and a very clear ideology, and they
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: know what they want, and you were working on someone
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: who is as stupid and easily manipulated and without any
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: sort of grounding principles as Trump. That is part of why,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you know, from the beginning, I've thought that this was
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: very that we were very likely.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: To end up in this place.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that in the first term
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Trump was extremely hawkish towards Iran as well, that they
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: in different ways tried to foment a coup and a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: regime change in Iran as well in the first term.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: That was why I was fairly confident that unfortunately we
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: would at some point end up in this place, and
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: here we are.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: It's really bad.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Let's put be nine up here on the screen just
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: to highlight some of the issue. Shoes about a broadening conflict.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: So we had actually a very troubling incident yesterday where
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: it appeared in Iranian missile was actually fired at Turkey,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: so at a US base which is in the country.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: A US Navy destroyer shot down the missile.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: But this was one of the first times, other than
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: the British military base which was struck in Cyprus. There
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: are NATO allies which are allready being ensnare now remember
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I mean Turkey. This is a very difficult problem for them.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: You've got airbases of the United States in Turkey. At
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: the same time, the Turks have okay relations with the Iranians.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: They apparently summoned the ambassador over this strike, and there
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: was even some report that they may have had another one.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: But they're also going to be very against any sort
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: of Kurdish uprising which is in the country. But you
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: can see how very quickly these things can spiral out
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: of control. Another censorship thing I want to know is
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: we haven't seen video of this, but Qatar, Kuwait and
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: others keep talking about Iranian fight which they're able to
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: shoot down, which come very close to striking us basis.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: So that's very significant for a number of reasons that
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: they still have the ability to take off.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, a couple of days.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Into the conflict, you would expect they'd be one of
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: the first things to go, and so far the air
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: defense systems and others have all been able to hold up.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: But it only takes one for to create like a
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: serious mash casualty or crazy style event. Last thing on
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: here before we move on, we wanted to flag weird
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: incident B eleven. Let's put it up here on the screen.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: This is from the UK media. They are saying that
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: a drone attack on their base in Cyprus. Cyprus was
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: hit by a shot head like drone on Sunday, but
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: confirmed it was not launched from Iran.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: So where was he launch from.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: And they haven't been able to tell us, so serious
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: questions here. Cypriot authority said that the assault executed was
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: an Iranian drone, most probably deployed they think from Hezbola
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: from Lebanese territory. But that shows that you've got drones
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: that are not just in the country, but all so
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: being able to spread out. Let's say, either in Syria
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: via proxy has below, they could attack in Israel, they
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: could attack other bases, other territories.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So that's signific.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, what isn't cier It's hundreds of miles away
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: from Iran just to show their own limited power projection
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: and the hoo, these haven't even gotten fully involved yet.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Do they hand their hands on these drones and their
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: ability to try and go after the United States said
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: they were going to escort ships in the Straits of Hormuz,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that will put them much more in the launch range
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: of some of these anti ship ballistic missiles and also
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: potentially some of these drones as well.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this drone situation, there's two possibilities. One is that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: it was hasblah and two is that it was a
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: false flag from Israel, which I don't put either one
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: amount of you know, I don't put either one out
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: of the question, and both possibilities raise the raise alarms
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: about the escalatory nature of what has been unleashed here
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: because Iran has deployed this mosaic defense where because they
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: anticipated that you know, there would be an attempt to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: decapitate the government. They really spread decision making out among
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: these different military units, so their military commanders are authorized
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: to sort of freelance like they have whatever is in
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: their purview, and they are allowed to make decisions on
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: their own independently. They don't have to wait for some
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: order to come down from the top.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: What does that mean.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: It means you've got a bunch of military commanders out
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: there who are freelancing, who you know, perhaps are firing
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: missiles or using drones in ways that if you had
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: a cohesive, like top down military structure, they may think
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: better of because of the possible escalatory nature. Now I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: also think, I mean, based on what we're seeing from Iran,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: that they have calculated that since this is an existential threat,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: they also need to make the Gulf countries feel some
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: pain and recognize that this is a problem for them
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in the hope that they will put pressure on the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: US to pull out and end this war. So I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: do think that is part of their strategy. And then
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: with regard to Israel, they have the same incentive to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: broaden and spread this conflict. They want as many countries
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: engaged in this war as possible, which is why I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: don't think it's insane to float that, you know, you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: could have false whether this was one or not, that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: you could have false flag attacks from Israel. We talked
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: earlier about that report from Tucker that you had Masad
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: agents in golf countries that were caught trying to foment
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: terrorist attacks or trying to commit terrorist attacks golf.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: They're denying. Yes, there's denials all around.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But again, these are things that you cannot put out
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: of bounds because that is the interest that the Israelis have.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: They want this to broaden and spread as much as
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: pot drawing Turkey in. Absolutely, they're all for that. All
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the golf countries, they want them brought in, they want
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: everybody engaged in this fight because that's what serves their interest.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: And so that's why, you know, the only country that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: maybe even theoretically has an interest in not allowing this
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: thing to spread is US. But when you have the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Iranians and the Israelis both wanting this to escalate and spiral,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: that is very likely what you're going to get. And
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: of course that is already what we see, you know,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: in terms of the direction of this going, and I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: mean from the US too, Like we sunk this Iranian
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: frigate that was over in the Indian Ocean that was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: not armed actually and we you know, shot a torpedo
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: at it from a submarine. Pete Hexits was bragging about it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: We allowed, you know, didn't go and try to rescue
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: one of the sailors either, which apparently is something even
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the Nazis did during World War Two, would go and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: you know rescue some sailors after you know, after they
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: they struck their boats. But in any case, so it's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: not like we're really trying to contain this thing and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: de escalate it either, because that was quite far from
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: the main theater of action.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, that's the submarine thing is actually kind of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: a political problem in India.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of discussion around him.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Well, because they had invited them there for.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Some nahbor life, so there was a naval exercise in
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: the Indian diaspora actually or sorry, in the Indian like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: discourse over there, they're like, Hey, are we going to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: allow this, Like we're going to invite people over here,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the United States. They're like, yeah,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: it was international waters. So we've had an escort. These
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: people saluted our own Prime minister. You know, they're they're
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: worried about their own threat to the prestieseers literally reading
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: some of the Indian papers this morning. So it's look,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's already spread, there's a cut, you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: literally insane to think about torpedoes being launched. They're saying,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: I think the first time since World War Two, which
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: is insane. And yeah, I mean the level of the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: level of how it's already spread and impacted global gas prices,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: which are already ticking up. Diesel prices actually went over
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: four dollars. I think there was some reports about California
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: jet fuel futures.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: And others like.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: The level of economic damage that this could inflict in
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: a matter of weeks is going to be immense, and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: the President and his team appear to only be waking
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: up to that now. It's not as if they really
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: planned for any of it, by their own admission, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: that will only further extend let's say, the US military
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: having to escort ships in the Straits of Warnews.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: So the Senate voted yesterday on this war powers resolution.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: We could put this up on the screen. It failed
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: effectively along party lines. You had Fetterman voting with the Republicans,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Ran Paul voting with the Democrats, and so it failed
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: forty seven to fifty three. And you know, I think
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: it's I think it's noteworthy both that you had all
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the Democrats except Fetterman hang together. But more importantly, you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk and you see a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: lot of kind of like Magat influence or some number
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: of MAGA influencers. Megan Kelly, right, obviously, Mickfuintez and Alex
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Jones are opposed to as you see some people like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: that the war room people are uncomfortable with what's going on.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: So you see a lot of like loud voices who
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: are on the right who are opposed to this war
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: with run. But if you look at the polling the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Republican base, they're largely on board with it. You know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: it is more of an online phenomenon the opposition than
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: the reality among the Republican base, which just says like basically,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: oh Trump is doing this, so we support it. So
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I think the fact that the Republicans hung together and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: did not remember this is not even about like authorizing war.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: This is a vote to say, like this power Russ
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: with us that even the Susan Collins of the world,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: who is very likely to get her clock clean by
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Graham Plattner in the Fall, even they felt like the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: right political calculus was to vote against this. Now you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: have to factor into that not only the political base
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: and the fear of Trump and his ire, you also
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: have to factor into that the money from APAC and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: other ideology Israel lobby types and the ideology too. As
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: a great point too, some of these people just genuinely
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: believe in endless war. Many of them genuinely believe in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: endless war. And so that's how you end up with
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: the situation where even though you have you know, some
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: seventy percent of the country that is like, no, we
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: don't want this, you still have every Republican Senate save
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: for Rand Paul saying we're going to let the president
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: do whatever he wants.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Right, And that is the scary part, you know, which
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, just stick on that. One of the things
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I personally hate is people wish casting and all. So
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: there's been like you just said, there's a lot of
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: people that say, oh, this does to screw you to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: the base. And I never use those words.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I say.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I say it's to screw you to the country, because
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: the base is always going to stick with him. I
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: grew up in Bush Country. Five thousand US troops were killed.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: They didn't care. Okay, they all stuck with him till
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: the end. He's my president. I'd like to have a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: beer with him. You remember all that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: They say that until nine that's what a lot of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: these people were saying.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Today.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: They would all claim that they were all against it.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Not true, I remember, But that's the reality. The base,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: they'll stick with him. Now the rest of the country,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: independence the fifty one percent, let's sayho voted for him,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: that's a whole other story. Those are the people who
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: are much more on the fence, people who are not
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: self identified actual Republicans, many of them. And one of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: the things that can explain this number is when you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: start self identifying other than as a Republican and then
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: you disagree, it shoots the Republican number support up for
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: the war. But let's not make any mistake that all
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: of these people are loyal to Donald Trump and to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: party ideology itself. I will say in the Senate case vote.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: What you see with the Susan Collins and the mccowskis
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: and all of them is I do I actually think
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski they vote against Trump all
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: the time, all the time, right, and they've been able
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: to survive. It's very telling to me that the one
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: thing they won't vote against him on is Iran because
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: they support the operation line. I don't think that we
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: can adequately describe the way that in Washington brain this
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: is a justified operation. To the extent that it's gone bad,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: it's because Trump hasn't done it the process way properly.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Didn't they didn't brief us properly. It's like that's all
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: they care about.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: They don't care about the fact that we're in a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: bad conflict period, end of story. This is going to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: be just like two thousand and four, the War Democrats,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: they're already emerging and we're seeing some of this. And yes,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: just like two thousand and three, there are only extremely limited,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: extremely count on one hand, the level the type of
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: people who will speak out either against party or against ideologies,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: say this is ridiculous. One of them is Congressman Thomas Massey.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Here he is let's take a.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: Listen as to why we launched this preemptive war, and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: it says we had to strike first because an Iranian
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: strike was imminent. Meanwhile, the Department of Defense conceded there
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: was no evidence of an imminent Iranian strike. Some told
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: us this war was about nuclear weapons, but six months
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: ago we were assured our last strike on Iran decimated
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: their nuclear program.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: So which is it?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: I think the most candid answer came from the Secretary
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: of Stay, who told the press that Israel forced our
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: hand and dragged us into this war.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: There is Congressman Thomas Massey. He's going to be one
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: of the very few Republicans if at all, who end
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: up voting against it. And look, this is a valiant
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: effort from Congressman Massey and from Rokana others Tim Kaine
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: who forced the War Powers Act vote. But look now,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: let it all be on record. It's out there now.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: We can hold these people at the very least county
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: You did not even want to vote for the ability
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: to vote.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Whether this is something that you have an interest in. Okay,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: we got you, We hear you loud and clear.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: What's going to come next is this supplemental funding though,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: that's the big yeah.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Well, and that is the purpose of these votes. I mean,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: they're not even let's imagine a world where they actually
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: did pass. The war powers are so luge, it's not
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: like we really think that that would constrain Trump. What
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: this is about is putting people on the record for history,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: so that forever it is marked down in the history books,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: who did what when? Because again, you're going to have
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: so many people after the fact when this thing, I mean,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: it's already gone bad.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know how anyone's supporting it.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Already, but when it is an undeniable, complete catastrophe and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Americans reject it overwhelmingly in a way that is again undeniable,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: you're going to have all kinds of people pretending they
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: opposed it from the jump. So at least for these politicians,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: we can get them on the record. Where did you stand?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: What did you do at the beginning? Did you even
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: have the guts to claim the power for Congress to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: weigh in on this thing, or did you just say, yes, sir,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: mister President, whatever mayhem and madness you want to do,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: go ahead and go for it. So let's go and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: put C three up on the screen because Tosaber's point,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: the next battle is over funding.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: Now, have you heard anyone in.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: The media say, how will you pay for it? How
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: will you pay for it? The roughly billion, probably more
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: dollars a day that are being spent currently, the fifty
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: billion dollar reported supplemental funding that they're going to ask
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Congress for. This is Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: as Congress will pass Iran war funding when appropriate. So
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars more? What else could that fifty billion
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: dollars be spent on? Do you have any ideas in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: your head? Maybe healthcare, maybe housing, maybe education, maybe infrastructure,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe jobs, all kinds of things that could
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: be done with this fifty billion dollars rather than you know,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: killing little girls in Iran or risking our service members'
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: lives in the Middle East. Seems like the American taxpayers
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: probably have some better ideas of how they would like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: these funds to be sent spent. And yet, you know
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: from the quote unquote opposition party to put this up
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: on the screen, Politico reached out to a bunch of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: senators on the Democratic side to say, hey, you know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: you have expressed some concerns about this war, and all
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: of the Democrats save for Fetterman, have expressed those concerns,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: and all of them, save for Fetterman, voted for the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: War Powers resolution. What about this supplemental funding, Schumer, Before
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: you can feel satisfied about a supplemental and I haven't
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: seen it, you have to know what the real goals
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: are and what the endgame is. You see there, he's
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: not ruling it out. He's saying, Oh, we just need
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: war information, we need a better briefing. Okay, again, process concern,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: not opposition. A Delaware Senator Chris Konz, who absolutely sucks
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: all the time, a senior Democratic appropriator, says he expects
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: a Pentagon will send Congress of supplemental funding requests and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: vowed to quote make sure we are making all the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: investments we can.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: To keep US troops safe.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Kuon said the Trump administration needs to testify it an
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: open hearing so American people can get questions answered about
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: the failures in planning and that led to the sum
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: of the challenges, losses and mistakes in this war. Okay,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: so again, process, they need to speak to the American people.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: But ultimately he's going to fund it is, bottom line
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: what he's saying there. Our friend Alyssa's Luckkin, she said,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I don't rule anything out, Comma, I mean, we're in it.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Tim Kaine also said something similar. Though he's been great
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: on leading the push for this War Powers resolution, but
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: when it comes to funding the war that you claim
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: to oppose, you're open to voting for the funding of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: the war. I mean, this makes no sense. If you
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: oppose the war, you oppose funding the war. It is
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: that simple. And so the amount of you know, of capitulation,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: the amount of frankly ideological support from the Democratic Party
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: is insane. They are so disconnected from the base of
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: the party. And so with their vote on the War
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Powers resolution, you know, the fact that they stayed lockstep
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: except for John Fetterman, that is a proof of how
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: strongly adamantly the base is opposed to this thing, and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: not just from a union't briefs concern, but outright directly
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: opposed to this thing. They knew they could not vote
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: against this war power or the resolution because there would
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: be hell to pay from the base. You saw Mark
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Kelly say like, I don't know how I'm gonna vote
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: on this thing, and I guarantee you who got slammed
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: with phone calls. And next thing, you know, guess how
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: he voted. He voted for it. So they are under
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: tremendous pressure from the base, and yet they think they
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: can get away with voting to fund this thing.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: It is absolutely insane to me.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, trip down memory lane back in seven
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi. You might remember this where she tried to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: fund the Iraq because it was right after the two
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: thousand and six victory for the midterms. Pelosi was negotiating
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: funding with the Bush administration. And what she did is
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: she put a withdrawal timeline on the funding for the administration.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: But even that was something that many of the Progressive
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Democrats who were inside at the time, so we're saying,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: what they were saying is like, no, you need a
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: much faster withdrawal time like because they didn't want to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: support the surge. Bush ended up vetoing it, and they
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: did eventually win that entire funding battle, which of course
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: kept American forces in Iraq. What they wanted to do
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: was they wanted to fulfill their claim that they had
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: right was basically, we ran on ending the war in Iraq.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: And the president now wants to surge troops in Iraq,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: we cannot then continue to fund what we ran against.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: But the moderate leaders in the Democratic Party so called,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: like Nancy Pelosi and others who became the Speaker said no, no, no,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: we can't do that because we had to play ball
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: with the Bush administration. And so what they ended up doing,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: actually it was kind of knifing what had happened and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: continuing to fund that. Not to mention what happened with
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Barack Obama. You're watching the exact same thing now play out.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Is you can't say, especially in this case, Iraq was
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: a whole other story, right, because we had our troops
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: on the ground, etc. Like you know, obviously many Democrats
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: had voted for it. In this case, if you're going
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: to be against it, then how can you continue to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: fund it. It's ridiculous, right, If you're saying that the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: best possible thing would be to force the administration's hand
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: by saying no, you can't have more money to continue operations.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: You need to figure out some sort of diplomatic solution.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: That is the best way to go about it. But
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: they failed to do that under Bush. They also failed
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: to do it multiple times under Obama. This is how
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: the biparts and consensus keeps going. And the more that
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: the money is flowed, that's the only thing that allows
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: the administration to continue to operate. That's the disaster I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: think that we're seeing in all this. So we have
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: no war powers. I mean, Glenn made this point. I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: thought it was so good. Is that when the Framers
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: put together this idea of the Constitution, they actually theorize
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: that the coequal branches of government would fight as hard
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: as they possibly could for maintaining their own institutional power
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: within the system. And they actually never could have imagined
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: that you would have an entire branch that would just
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: hold up its hand and surrender to what was going
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: on in the White House. And this is a political
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: culture now which has been normalized over the last twenty
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: five years from Bush onward because and I want to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: make this the most, because they do not want to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: bear the political consequences of their actions, even the Democrats,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: like you're saying, Mark Kelly, you know all these ways,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: but the vote for the War Powers resolution. But the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: real fight is going to be on funding. The real
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: fight is going to be on how you're actually working
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: to make sure that this doesn't continue to happen. They're
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: happy to take the vote to tell the base they
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: didn't vote for it, but are you actually going to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: do everything to keep it away?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: And then same with many of the so called anti
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: war Republicans. I mean, Josh Holly, some of these other guys,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: they all voted for this. I mean, it's ridiculous, it's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the most consequential war vote you
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: will ever take as a member of Congress, at least
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: so far in your entire term. And you're like, no, actually,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: not only does the president have the ability, we don't
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: even have the ability to weigh in. It's ludicrous, that's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: all that.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only Republican voted against this was Paul And
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: then in the House you've got Thomas Massey and we'll
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: see if there are any others who join him whatsoever.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: I wanted to show this as well.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: This is a marine, retired marine, who protested in a
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: congressional hearing. And let's put this up on the screen.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: This is C five and you can see him being
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: wrestled out. That guy in the suit that is a
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: freaking senator. Shei he and in the process of doing
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: this and trying to remove this man who I don't
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: know if you heard what he just said there, he
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: said nobody wants to die for Israel. I think that's
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: a pretty salient point. In any case, They broke this
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: man's arm, including this senator who's for some reason gets
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: involved here with the police trying to remove this retired marine.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, just just wild, you know, to see that
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: whole scene play.
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  Speaker 1: Out, and you know, man reminds me of my childhood.
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  Speaker 4: That's resolutely I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, a retired marine having his arm broken because he
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: says nobody wants to die for Israel. Pull the country
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: ask them, do people want to die for Israel? Is
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: that because that's what Marco Rubio tells you is going
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: on here. He said it plain that that's what's actually
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: happening here. Now I think that is not the entire truth,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: but there's no doubt that the people who have been
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the most relentless and pushing for this are all of
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: the most hardest core Zionists in this country, and obviously
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: the Israeli government themselves.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Tim Shade? Do you remember the little
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: factoid about him?
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  Speaker 2: Is he the one that got in the fight with
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: that reporter.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: He's the one who with Megan Kelly got into that
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: whole dispute about the circumstances in which he was shot and.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah that's the guy. Yes, that's right.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Bizarre story Seth.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Was very very strange where a National Park ranger was like,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: he shot himself and he claimed he got shot and anyway,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: there's just saying the.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Bottom line he shot himself and then lied about it.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: Is the TLTR that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Seems to be the evidence as to where things currently point.