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"Need to Know Basis" (FTTxJT Mon 100526 hr1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Nothing evident.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing kept and hailing frequencies are open.
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  Speaker 3: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Taunt Media Network.
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  Speaker 4: Joe works at a steel mill.
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  Speaker 5: He's damn near every day.
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  Speaker 6: Leaves for work when the sun comes up.
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  Speaker 7: Drops a kid to school in the long way.
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  Speaker 6: Joe has everything he dreamed of. All the treasures that
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  Speaker 6: he needs.
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  Speaker 8: No wonder Joe's always smiling.
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  Speaker 9: He only aims to please you.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you for letting me be of service to you.
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  Speaker 9: You know, there was a time when people who were
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  Speaker 9: learning to do what I do were told about the
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  Speaker 9: perils of covering investigations.
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  Speaker 10: It was one of the most serious things you could
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  Speaker 10: be schooled on if you will is that you know
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  Speaker 10: how do you cover an investigation so that the public
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  Speaker 10: knows what they need to know but you don't taint
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  Speaker 10: the jury pool or in any way shape or form
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  Speaker 10: impede the natural evolution of an investigation so that police
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  Speaker 10: can collect the evidence necessary so that they can find
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  Speaker 10: out who it is that violated someone's rights and And
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  Speaker 10: I think the situation with the Cornell 7 is a
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  Speaker 10: master's class in this. Now the social media is blowing up.
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  Speaker 10: People are doxing the victim and they're going after them.
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  Speaker 10: Alumni showing that Ivy League means a lot. You expect
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  Speaker 10: this from community college sometimes. Actually, we get better from
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  Speaker 10: community college because these are generally blue-collar people who have
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  Speaker 10: a little grasp on reality. But as the southern tier
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  Speaker 10: of New York is embroiled in this personally, the rest
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  Speaker 10: of the world has descended on them. And having represented
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  Speaker 10: a small central college town of some repute I feel
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  Speaker 10: for the people in Ithaca who try to just get
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  Speaker 10: on with their day in the midst of the he said,
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  Speaker 10: she said and everybody on the internet or on talk
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  Speaker 10: radio stations who know what's going on. And the only
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  Speaker 10: thing I know is that there's a whole lot that
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  Speaker 10: we don't know. And unfortunately, because it's a sexual assault,
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  Speaker 10: it gathers more attention, especially in the wake of situations
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  Speaker 10: like our own here in Central Virginia rape on campus
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  Speaker 10: story at Rolling Stone. And as I said at the time, here,
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  Speaker 10: I said, does this mean that there aren't rapes on campus?
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  Speaker 10: Hell no. It means it still happens. It just means
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  Speaker 10: that the celebrity, the The notorious stories are the ones
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  Speaker 10: that kind of make it tough on all the other ones.
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  Speaker 10: And we need a justice system that we have faith
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  Speaker 10: in as much as we need journalists that we have
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  Speaker 10: faith in. But we also have to ask the right
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  Speaker 10: questions of our journalists and our jurists, and we'll get
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  Speaker 10: into that. But our first things on this Monday morning.
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  Speaker 10: So we were talking about justice. And here is the truth.
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  Speaker 10: I exist in a business where I'm supposed to serve
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  Speaker 10: your needs. And sometimes... sometimes there's a real balancing act
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  Speaker 10: between need and want. I think we can agree on that.
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  Speaker 10: If we're honest with ourselves, even if it's just the
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  Speaker 10: moments we're looking into the bathroom mirror, we know in
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  Speaker 10: our heart of hearts sometimes the things we call needs
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  Speaker 10: are really just wants. And this is where covering law
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  Speaker 10: enforcement becomes challenging. Because people want to know what's going
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  Speaker 10: on in their community. Absolutely. And there's all the best
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  Speaker 10: reasons in the world to do that. If we're going
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  Speaker 10: to base our society on democracy, knowing what's going on,
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  Speaker 10: Is important. That being said. It requires. A lot more
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  Speaker 10: than just. Hey I bought a microphone. And I got
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  Speaker 20: And.
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  Speaker 10: We talk about this sometimes. What was going on in
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  Speaker 10: the five minutes prior to the clip of some traffic
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  Speaker 10: stop gone awry is always the first question I ask.
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  Speaker 10: And I, you see, this is the part that frustrates me.
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  Speaker 10: I'm not the one with the journalism degree. And I
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  Speaker 10: remember the first time I heard the great and powerful
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  Speaker 10: Oz in my industry, Rush Limbaugh used the phrase drive
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  Speaker 10: by media. And he explained it very clearly. He said,
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  Speaker 10: you know, you've heard of drive by shootings, like the
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  Speaker 10: one that happened not far from our fine new affiliate
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  Speaker 10: in Southern Georgia during a homecoming weekend, a block four
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  Speaker 10: block party. I've been at a few of those. I,
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  Speaker 10: I can attest they're crazy. And I'm not the one
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  Speaker 10: with the journalism degree, but when the drive-by media comes
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  Speaker 10: by and insists, they know. And I feel great empathy
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  Speaker 10: for the people who live in and around Ithaca. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: partially because of our Elmira affiliate, we're in there like swimwear.
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  Speaker 10: The folks on the bell down there in Horseheads and Elmira.
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  Speaker 10: And was Horseheads named that because of the mobsters that
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  Speaker 10: used to come out of New York and go up there?
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  Speaker 10: I don't think so, but it always used to be
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  Speaker 10: fun when I was working in Middletown and that area
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  Speaker 10: of the southern tier of New York. Because we've gone
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  Speaker 10: through it here in Charlottesville. Our flag is stuck in
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  Speaker 10: the ground in a place that... Honestly, I think after,
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  Speaker 10: you know, if you go more than six months without
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  Speaker 10: some national ignominy, the residents of Charlottesville start trying to
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  Speaker 10: cook one up because it's been too long. We're suffering
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  Speaker 10: some community attention deficit syndrome where, you know, the attention
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  Speaker 10: being spent on us is in deficit. I'm watching it
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  Speaker 10: with this Cornell 7 story. people are bringing up. I
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  Speaker 10: brought up, but I only brought up the rape on
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  Speaker 10: campus story to show you that this rush to prejudgment,
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  Speaker 10: which by the way is the root of prejudice. I
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  Speaker 10: should remind my liberal friends who know so much. You
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  Speaker 10: wouldn't want to be prejudicial, would you? I thought we
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  Speaker 10: were against prejudice. I'm just asking. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 10: trying to be intentionally jerky. Okay, that's somewhat of a lie.
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  Speaker 10: I am trying to be intentionally jerky to my friends
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  Speaker 10: in the media who are inflaming this. And when there
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  Speaker 10: is little to report, and I feel a little bit
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  Speaker 10: for the detectives trying to go through this as we
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  Speaker 10: pointed out during the ignominious rape on campus story in
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  Speaker 10: Rolling Stone back when they used to still exist and
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  Speaker 10: a huge lawsuit settled over the damage done because though
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  Speaker 10: they didn't name names enterprising folks went out and found
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  Speaker 10: out who was in that for a fraternity when this
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  Speaker 10: a incident was alleged to have happened and started doxing
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  Speaker 10: them and people lost jobs, people lost families. And I'm sure,
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  Speaker 10: you know, if you're at that point and you can
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  Speaker 10: lose a job, you work for a jerk who isn't
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  Speaker 10: going to give you the time of day to settle
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  Speaker 10: yourself or is just too worried about shareholder revolt to
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  Speaker 10: find out whether an employee is actually guilty of the
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  Speaker 10: thing they've been told about online. So, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 10: more to it than just being implicated in a story
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  Speaker 10: like this. But where is that borderline, the things that
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  Speaker 10: you need to know? Are there rapes going on in
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  Speaker 10: the modern definition of rape? And this becomes a harsh reality.
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  Speaker 10: as much of this story seems to teeter on the
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  Speaker 10: line of, you know, what is consent? Now, I, I
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  Speaker 10: believe wholeheartedly you don't have a, you know, a right
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  Speaker 10: to grab somebody just because they're at a party with
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  Speaker 10: you getting high and getting drunk. Isn't I, and I've
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  Speaker 10: long since removed from being hormonally imbalanced at 21. Um,
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  Speaker 10: But one would like to believe that the denizens of
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  Speaker 10: an Ivy League college would be able to say, hey,
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  Speaker 10: we're getting drunk, you know, and what is and isn't consent.
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  Speaker 10: And as I've said about abortion, I'd like to make
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  Speaker 10: us more judicious about how we jump in the sack
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  Speaker 10: with one another. I'm sorry, is it too early to
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  Speaker 10: be that course? But where is the public's need to
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  Speaker 10: know what's going on versus the need of the justice
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  Speaker 10: can determine what really happened? And understand, this lawsuit was
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  Speaker 10: filed long since that judicial process went in. The lawsuit
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  Speaker 10: is claiming a failure of that justice system, which is
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  Speaker 10: the right of any citizen to say, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 3: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 9: So, you know, and again, the borderline between need to
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  Speaker 9: know and want to.
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  Speaker 10: Know And this happens often when there's like an active
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  Speaker 10: shooter going on in schools. You want to know what's
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  Speaker 10: going on because am I supposed to be sheltering in place?
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  Speaker 10: How long do I need to shelter in place? And
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: those sorts of things are important. Once that's said and done,
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  Speaker 10: the interest continues, but the need wanes. And this is
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  Speaker 10: where people like me get in the way of actual
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  Speaker 10: law enforcement. Especially when you're in a situation like this
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  Speaker 10: Cornell 7 case. Because there are plenty of things we
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: could be talking about in this, like titled, IX's requirement
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: that universities conduct these investigations internally rather than bringing in
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: the local law enforcement officers. Did you know that was
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: part of Title IX? I know Title IX has pretty
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  Speaker 10: much been forgotten on the ash heap of woke, let's
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  Speaker 10: let boys play girls basketball. But in all reality, Title IX,
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  Speaker 10: one of its provisions is that universities have to become
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  Speaker 10: law enforcement operations. And people don't realize that. And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 10: how come this? And where was the DA? These are
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  Speaker 10: things that by Title IX's requirement... allegations have to be
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  Speaker 10: investigated within the campus. Don't yell at the district attorney.
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  Speaker 10: Yell at Title IX. Yell at the congresspeople that thought
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  Speaker 10: Title IX was necessary and now seem to be interested
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: in ignoring it whole hog or vegan soy sausage or
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: whatever it is you're having this morning. Kareem's hanging on
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  Speaker 10: the line with us first thing this morning at 434-882- 4217.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Kareem. What do you need to know this morning?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Joe. Honestly, everything that our public government does,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I'm of the opinion that our government shouldn't be acting
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: in secret where the public, not necessarily that they should
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: be disclosing when they do a secret mission to our security.
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  Speaker 10: Ah, now you see, now you identify the problem, which
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: is At what point in a process do you need
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: to know what's going on? See, that's the soft, squishy,
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: tickly bit in this. Because if you find out or
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: if something is disclosed too soon, we had this. There
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: was a murder investigation in which the press somehow got
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: the information as to who the suspect was going to
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: be in this murder investigation. And the guy took a powder, predictably.
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: All of a sudden it shows up in a press
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: story that so-and-so has become the person of interest. And
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: the next thing you know, he's halfway to Mexico. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: only by the grace of some guy finding him on
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: a beach in Corpus Christi do we find him and
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: drag him back to Virginia. So that's the thing. And
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: you could make the case that the public should know
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: if this guy's a suspect because he was actually working
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: as an orderly at one of the area hospitals as
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: well as a taxi driver. But they didn't have proof yet.
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: They had testimony and then they got DNA evidence, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: it was in process. What if the guy didn't do
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: it and you report so-and-so was a person of interest
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: and then it turns out like they have nothing to
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: do with it? This is where we play fast and
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  Speaker 10: loose with our own trustworthiness in the eyes of the public, Kareem,
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  Speaker 10: and that's why I think you feel like the government's
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  Speaker 10: always trying to do something shady.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Joe, because they are.
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  Speaker 10: Then vote for better people. Then vote for better people.
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  Speaker 10: If the government is doing something shady in your name,
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  Speaker 10: and I have this kind of, it's not just you, Kareem,
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  Speaker 10: you just happen to be the avatar for a lot
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: of people who say stuff like this. Okay, then we
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: need to elect better people. If we're allowing the government
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: to act in shady business, then we need to elect
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: better people. This is the same debate we've had about
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: the flock cameras and all of this stuff. The technology
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: isn't at fault. The people we're putting in the position
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: to run them might be, and I'm fine with outing
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: people who are chasing down ex-girlfriends by using flock cameras,
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: and they need to be excoriated for that. But we
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: also need to raise a better quality of people who
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: aren't going to cocktail parties at fraternities thinking that that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: implied consent as well.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Joe, there's a whole lot to talk about about that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: And don't, no, no, no, no, but there is a
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: whole lot to talk about. And guess what? We have
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: four hours to do it. And the whole world is...
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: bent out of shape about this Cornell case. So I
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: damn well, I'm going to use some of that time
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: to talk about making Americans great again.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I know, but usually I only speak for about four
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: or five minutes. And again, you bring up a whole
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: lot of good stuff. But Joe, I don't remember any
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: elections for police officers. In fact, that's so protected from
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the public that you elect the mayor who has a
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: council of experts or some sort of policy board that's
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: not elected, but they're the ones who choose the candidates.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Then after the candidates go through, it's a whole lot
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of rigmarole, and it actually shields the police from the
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: public instead of the public from people who shouldn't be
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: hired as police officers. That's why I've said controversial things
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  Speaker 4: in the past, like they're not hiring the best and brightest,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: setting that part aside.
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: I think that's a pretty big incendiary device you said there.
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  Speaker 10: First off, I would point out that we do vote
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: for the right kind of police officers. They're called sheriffs.
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  Speaker 10: And does that mean that every sheriff isn't going to
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: wind up becoming Roscoe P. Coltrane?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: But then you vote for a different one and you
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: keep voting for them until you get good ones. And
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: so and they're the ones who pick the deputies and
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: they are responsible to the people directly. City councilors, they
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  Speaker 10: they love to stand there behind a lectern saying, I
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  Speaker 10: don't know why the police chief arrested so and so.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe it's the color of his skin. You know, when
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: all the police chief did was enforce a law that
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: the city council or the mayor signed into law. And
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: these folks keep hiding from their responsibility, again, because of
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: human weaknesses. So let's look at police officers first and foremost.
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: And there are places where police chiefs are an elected official.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: There are not a lot of them, but I would
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: go back to your constitutional sheriff as a way to
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: fix that problem, Kareem. See, problem solved. We're problem solvers
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: here this morning.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Joe, I look at Sheriff Grady out of Florida as
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: a fine example of what most people would want. I'm assuming.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I speak for myself. I have my own particulars, of course.
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  Speaker 10: And why do you point out Sheriff Grady?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Because Florida has the Sunshine Laws, and he has press conferences.
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  Speaker 4: He will tell you what happened. He'll give you the details.
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  Speaker 4: He has charts. He has photos. He answers the questions,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: and he actually engages people. Whereas what we're looking at
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Cornell is we can say it's secret and they don't
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: want to besmirch the Ivy League. Honestly, Joe.
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  Speaker 10: And they use the laws that your congresspeople passed when
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: they all talked about the joys of Title IX. This
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: is the law. The law says Cornell has to investigate.
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: That's not Cornell chooses to investigate when there's a sexual
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: assault accusation on a college campus. The university is tasked
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: under Title IX to do this investigation. Do you think
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: there's anyone at Cornell as capable as the constitutionally elected
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  Speaker 3: Ithaca, New York?
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• 37:47
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• 37:51
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• 37:55
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• 37:57
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: We ran into our break there, so I appreciate Kareem
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  Speaker 10: hanging on because this is, and I'm not picking on you, Kareem,
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  Speaker 10: but this is exactly what I'm talking about, is the
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  Speaker 10: the break. This is a story that took place in 2004.
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: So you get back to what you were saying. And
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: then there's a bigger point, a finer point, I guess,
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: if you will, that I want to bring up in
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: this that. has little to do with the young lady
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  Speaker 10: or the Cornell fraternity brothers.
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  Speaker 17: Yes, she.
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  Speaker 4: I'm assuming the victims she sent. Jane Doe could be
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: a transgender, could be a cisgender. I don't know which.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: But going on this one, the reports, they can file
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: a report. They can say in that report, I think
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: it would be a good idea if the person who
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: ever filed it would say, I want this type of
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: resolution or I want– I'm just following that this happened,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: and I don't feel comfortable with it or what have you.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: People can file whatever reports they want, and they want–
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: a report is a public declaration. That's my view. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: that should be investigated by the person who has jurisdiction.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: In that case, it's Cornell. Let Cornell investigate. And just
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: like we elect our own people, better people, then parents
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: will either decide to send their children to Cornell if
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: they don't investigate well, or they will send to– if
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: they trust the investigations. But more sunshine laws, Joe.
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: I think there are plenty of sunshine laws. I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: there are people who, you know, find the loopholes in
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: them to, you know, avoid. I agree with you. I think,
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: you know, there are police chiefs and sheriffs that do
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: a really good job of being transparent, yet they still
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: get assailed for people. Oh, he was evasive. Sure, he
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: yelled a press conference, but he didn't say anything. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: want to know who his people of interest are. And
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: you'll have activists who want to taint the investigations through
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: doing this. So it's important to be careful, like I said,
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: need to know versus want to know. And need to
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: know in the case of a rape, is there a
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: serial rapist running around? Okay, no. All right, then this
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: is an isolated incident. We're going to investigate it and
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: make sure the propriety and the privacy has been handled
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: and managed, and everyone is pleased with, you know, what
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: winds up being the results. And still, that might not
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: be sufficient for folks in a case like this, because
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: we've decided we want an outcome. And when there's an
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: organization like a big university, the first inclination is we
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: want to drag the university down. Now, are these universities
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: overly sensitive to their public persona?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: And that's why a lot of cover-ups happened. And I'll
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: be the first one to tell you the most predictable
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: part of a cover-up is that it's going to wind
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: up being worse than the actual thing was. You can
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: ask Richard Nixon about that. So we have to, you know, again,
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: go back to whether or not it's a need to
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: know or a want to know at this point, And then,
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: you know, the question, if it's a want to know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: is why do you want to know? Why do you
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: need to know that? And that's a tough question to
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: ask people sometimes because as an investigation like this goes on.
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: And the thing about this Cornell 7 thing is I
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: guarantee you I haven't seen the records, but there are
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: at least a dozen, if not two dozen more allegations
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: of sexual misconduct at Cornell in 2024. that aren't getting
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: this kind of notoriety. It's because a lawsuit's happened, because
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: it's got, you know, the animal house thing going on,
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: and it supports the public's idea that universities are, you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: run amok, that they're, you know, this blight on our
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: society because they're full of rich, entitled kids. And that's
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: the part of this that I'm pushing back on, is
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: that this is some bunch of rich, entitled kids, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: this is just another bunch of Democrats trying to make
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: hay out of this. And there's that enormous subtext to
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: this as well. And I'm not just saying this as
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: a son of a Cornell alumni, but there are plenty
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: of people from my own high school who went to Cornell.
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: And we're able to establish a change in their lives.
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: Does that mean everyone is?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: The bigger the university, the bigger the odds of bad
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: people being there. But it comes down to this is
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: an individual case. Is it indicative of Republicans or Democrats
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: or Donald Trump supporters or rich kids, poor kids? Just
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: there's that aspect of this that I'm desperately trying to
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: make sure doesn't wind up being manipulated. And that's the
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: part of it that I feel like is being the
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: most dangerous is that it's being manipulated for other reasons
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: than to get this young lady justice that she may
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: feel like she was denied or just railroad a bunch
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: of 30-year-olds or 25-year-olds now who don't deserve it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Joe, looking at it, we can look at the behavior
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: and say that, oh, this is not appropriate. That's why
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: we need to investigate because we need to squash these rumors.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Or if the actual action, as described by the person
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: who made the report, Joe, it needs to happen quicker
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: than this. No, it doesn't.
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: Justice has to be slow and deliberative. It has to
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: collect all the evidence. And when evidence isn't there, it
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: has to get believable testimony and cross-referenced testimony. And that's
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: the hard bit of doing a lot of this stuff.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: But anyway, good stuff, Kareem, as always. And we'll talk
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: to you soon.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Trayvon. Have a great day.
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: You know, and to take it away from just trying
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: to bash or to create this narrative, it's more than Trump.
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: It's this Marxist march through the establishment. It's Cornell is
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: a bastion of rich kids, rich, entitled white kids who
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: are ruining the earth, the society and, you know, all
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: of God's creatures. And that narrative has to be pushed
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: back on. And that's the part of this that's being manipulated.
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: And I think to the peril, and I don't know
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: if the young lady feels bad about it. I know
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: she's not real happy with I think her name was
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: put out on the Internet, where she lives now. Again,
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: part of this thing where the deliberative process of justice
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: wouldn't allow for that kind of thing because you don't
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: want a witness chased down on the street and threatened.
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: That being said, though, corroborating testimony, things like that have
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: to happen. And if you want to question Title IX
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: and allowing universities, it's not an allowance for the universities
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: to circle the wagons. And it may have been inserted
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: into Title IX as a quid pro quo. But if
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: you read Title IX and all the bits about making
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: sure that there are women's sports, ironically, in 2026, why
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: was this part tacked on to it, insisting that if
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: there's sexual assault on a campus that the universities are
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: the ones who have to investigate it? Why was that added?
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: It sticks out like a sore thumb, like some snarky, oh, well, okay,
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: you can have that, but we want this. And it
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: didn't make any sense. It didn't even seem congruous.
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