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- 0:20Speaker 1: Today, Taylor Twelman going to join us, ice Cube get
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- 0:27Speaker 1: live from Wimbledon. It's gonna be Patrick McEnroe.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Don't be angry just because you're saying it right. I
- 0:35Speaker 4: did a hissed at you right there, Izzy. I am
- 0:38Speaker 4: so confused.
- 0:41Speaker 1: The United States appears to finally be good at soccer,
- 0:44Speaker 1: and I have no idea what the Celtics were.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Thinking by trading Jalen.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Brown to a team they just lost to in the
- 0:52Speaker 1: Eastern Conference semi finals in the Philadelphia seventy six Ers.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I'm sorry in the first round.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Right yep, trading them inside that division, inside that conference
- 1:01Speaker 1: and making the Sixers a better team than the Boston Celtics.
- 1:06Speaker 3: So confused.
- 1:07Speaker 4: It feels like they were just trying to get the
- 1:08Speaker 4: deal done before the USA Soccer match started, because it
- 1:13Speaker 4: felt like they were on some sort of pressured deadline
- 1:17Speaker 4: that they weren't on right, Like, yes, you probably ruined
- 1:21Speaker 4: some relationships or the relationships some by offering him from Milwaukee,
- 1:26Speaker 4: you know, so publicly, and even that you could say,
- 1:31Speaker 4: you could talk yourself off of being insulting because it's
- 1:33Speaker 4: Yanni Santeto Kumpa. Well, that's what I was.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Going to say.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Is it really that insulting if you're Jalen Brown and
- 1:38Speaker 1: publicly they dangled you out there for Giannis, one of
- 1:41Speaker 1: the best players in NBA history.
- 1:42Speaker 4: No, because if you just want to go one for one, yes,
- 1:44Speaker 4: you've won a championship, Yes, you've won a finals MVP.
- 1:47Speaker 4: He's done that too, and he's got a couple of MVPs,
- 1:50Speaker 4: and he's got a deepoy and he's still thirty one
- 1:52Speaker 4: years old, So it shouldn't be insulting for him to
- 1:56Speaker 4: be dangled in that trade. But for whatever reason, it
- 1:59Speaker 4: felt like they were under immense pressure to get something
- 2:02Speaker 4: done immediately, very soon after the honest deal happened to Miami.
- 2:07Speaker 4: And you know, the new year starts, a new league
- 2:10Speaker 4: year starts, and to me, stude, that just sounds like
- 2:13Speaker 4: an ownership edict. You know, they changed ownership, and they're
- 2:16Speaker 4: probably looking at Jalen Brown's contract and when they have
- 2:19Speaker 4: to extend him and saying, wait a second, what's this
- 2:21Speaker 4: going to cost us? Like seventy million dollars annually for
- 2:24Speaker 4: a player that we're still not even that sure is
- 2:28Speaker 4: you know, belongs you know, top of the league, all NBA,
- 2:30Speaker 4: all second team MBA. So yeah, it just felt like
- 2:34Speaker 4: pressure from up top to get something done. And they
- 2:36Speaker 4: convinced themselves on Paul George. Maybe because Paul had a
- 2:39Speaker 4: decent series against them, Maybe because Paul they know they
- 2:42Speaker 4: can move on from him without any you know, hesitation,
- 2:45Speaker 4: without any real fear of ruining anything that they've built
- 2:48Speaker 4: so far. So I think the most embarrassing part for
- 2:52Speaker 4: them is, like you mentioned going to Philly, right, the
- 2:55Speaker 4: team in your division, Yes, the team that just came
- 2:58Speaker 4: back and beat you in the first.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Because I think Celtic fans would say, hey, if you
- 3:03Speaker 1: feel the need to trade them, if it's economics, if
- 3:06Speaker 1: it's you just want to get rid of the guy.
- 3:08Speaker 1: He's not good in your locker room, do you have
- 3:10Speaker 1: to trade him to someone? We have to face, you know,
- 3:13Speaker 1: fifteen times a year and potentially in the playoffs, right.
- 3:16Speaker 4: And the other thing is is like I look back
- 3:18Speaker 4: at this and think, you know, they for years people
- 3:22Speaker 4: in the media were just like, I think it's time
- 3:23Speaker 4: to break up Brown and Tatum. I don't think they
- 3:26Speaker 4: can win a championship together. And it's almost like they
- 3:28Speaker 4: got stubborn in the front office and said, no, I
- 3:30Speaker 4: don't care what you think, We're going to win a
- 3:32Speaker 4: championship with these guys. Absolutely loaded up the roster and
- 3:36Speaker 4: they finally accomplished it.
- 3:37Speaker 3: They did it.
- 3:38Speaker 4: And so when you come off of a year where
- 3:41Speaker 4: you didn't have the same type of talent, not only
- 3:43Speaker 4: was Jason Tatum out for most of the year, but
- 3:45Speaker 4: your supporting cast was not what it was before, you're
- 3:48Speaker 4: going to make a judgment on the one player who
- 3:51Speaker 4: was basically carrying you throughout. That tells me it's not
- 3:55Speaker 4: about basketball. It tells me it's about finances and it's
- 3:58Speaker 4: some sort of personality. Because you could also argue, hey,
- 4:02Speaker 4: if it's about finances, move on from Jason Tatum. If
- 4:04Speaker 4: Jalen Brown is your Finals MVP is your main piece,
- 4:08Speaker 4: they obviously think of Tatum higher than that. So they
- 4:11Speaker 4: went with Brown. And it's an issue where you could
- 4:13Speaker 4: also argue maybe they've ruined the seventy six ers organization
- 4:18Speaker 4: right now because look at their plan. Their plan was Tyres,
- 4:20Speaker 4: Maxi and VJ Edgecomb. Sure the plan was built around
- 4:23Speaker 4: those guys. Obviously try to share the timeline with Embiid
- 4:26Speaker 4: as much as possible. But now you get Jalen Brown
- 4:28Speaker 4: in their Taylor. Do you think Jalen Brown goes in
- 4:30Speaker 4: there and says, fine, I'll be the third or fourth
- 4:33Speaker 4: option behind Maxi and Embiid, Or does Jalen Brown go
- 4:36Speaker 4: in there saying I have to have a monster season,
- 4:38Speaker 4: be a number one option and back up everything that
- 4:41Speaker 4: I've done in Boston.
- 4:43Speaker 5: I think that's more likely. He goes in thinking that
- 4:45Speaker 5: it's going to try to be his team, But that's
- 4:47Speaker 5: a lot of personalities that you have to kind of
- 4:49Speaker 5: manage there. The counter I would have to that point
- 4:52Speaker 5: is he every team that has traded Paul George historically
- 4:57Speaker 5: has gotten significantly better. And I'm wondering here how many
- 5:01Speaker 5: teams are gonna still trade for Paul George. If Boston
- 5:05Speaker 5: makes the playoffs, He'll be thirty seven next playoffs. And
- 5:08Speaker 5: if you told Celtics fans before last season, Jason Tatum
- 5:12Speaker 5: with Terror's Achilles, they'd still finish as the two seed
- 5:16Speaker 5: in the East. They'd probably think that they'd be thrilled instead.
- 5:19Speaker 5: Look how they feel today. They're saying it's the worst
- 5:21Speaker 5: trade in Boston sports history. It feels like there's no
- 5:24Speaker 5: argument today that Boston is worse off than they were
- 5:27Speaker 5: this time yesterday.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Boston traded Babe ruth me.
- 5:32Speaker 4: They traded it for money. They traded the greatest baseball
- 5:35Speaker 4: player ever for money. And this is just as bad.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I mean, if you just go by the people that
- 5:42Speaker 4: he was traded for, you could build an all Star team. Well,
- 5:45Speaker 4: you could say he's the greatest player of all time
- 5:47Speaker 4: because it was Shay Gildess, Alexander Yes, Demontis de Bonis,
- 5:50Speaker 4: Victor Oladipo, Danilo Gallinari, Jalen Brown, seven first round picks
- 5:56Speaker 4: and four picks. But this guy is somebody's goat. Yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 4: because that's.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Incredible, But is he It's a great point you make
- 6:04Speaker 1: about Philadelphia and because in Bee thinks it's his team, Max,
- 6:07Speaker 1: he thinks it's his team. Edgecombe says, Hey, one day,
- 6:10Speaker 1: it's gonna be my team, and Jalen Brown's like, nah,
- 6:13Speaker 1: all you get the hell out of the way.
- 6:15Speaker 3: This is my team.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Well, Jalen Brown's on Twitch telling everybody that Joel Embiid
- 6:19Speaker 4: is a flopper. Remember that after the playoffs ended. Yeh,
- 6:21Speaker 4: so that that's gonna be now. I'm sure they can
- 6:24Speaker 4: hash it out the way you would assume Tatum and
- 6:26Speaker 4: he could have hashed out whatever issues. I'm sure they'll
- 6:28Speaker 4: do it. I'm sure you know, Mbiid can swallow his
- 6:30Speaker 4: pride a little bit because he knows he's probably has
- 6:32Speaker 4: the most championship ready team that he's had since twenty nineteen.
- 6:36Speaker 4: But it clearly is you know something that is going.
- 6:39Speaker 5: To have to be addressed, is he Where was your
- 6:41Speaker 5: level of surprise that it was Philadelphia, because in all
- 6:44Speaker 5: the lead up to the Jalen Brown it felt like
- 6:47Speaker 5: we never really heard anything about this Philadelphia team thinking
- 6:50Speaker 5: about even making this move. And a point that we
- 6:52Speaker 5: made earlier on the podcast, every mock trade that we
- 6:57Speaker 5: saw for Jalen Brown, this would have been the worst one.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Yeah, by far. I would have put two teams on
- 7:03Speaker 4: the no trade list if I was the Celtics and
- 7:06Speaker 4: I'm dealing Jalen Brown and it's the Sixers and the
- 7:08Speaker 4: Miami Heat. It's the local rival, the closest rival literally geographically,
- 7:13Speaker 4: and then you know the rival that you've had over
- 7:15Speaker 4: the several years. Last thing you wanted Jalen Brown putting
- 7:17Speaker 4: on a Heat uniform the way Ray Allen did. So, Yeah,
- 7:21Speaker 4: it was. It was quite shocking, Like I literally took
- 7:23Speaker 4: a little nap, woke up and looked at my phone,
- 7:25Speaker 4: and I thought I was being pranked. Like I thought
- 7:27Speaker 4: it was being pranked. And yet Stu Goats there was
- 7:30Speaker 4: an NBA All Star on my phone, a former NBA
- 7:32Speaker 4: All Star, who said, Who's immediate reaction, I'm just all
- 7:35Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you is he's not a Miami Heat player,
- 7:37Speaker 4: I'll say, all right, or former Miami Heat player. First reaction,
- 7:41Speaker 4: I think Boston won this trade.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Oh I hate that guy. I can't stand that guy.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Whenever Hee's zigging, he needs this zaggy.
- 7:49Speaker 5: I don't even know if that was historically that's been.
- 7:51Speaker 3: You and I hate myself, I do. That's a that's
- 7:58Speaker 3: a good pull, Taylor.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I thought immediately to myself, Brad Stevens is very good
- 8:02Speaker 1: at his job. I think he's very good at his job.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking to myself, they make this deal. There
- 8:07Speaker 1: has to be another deal in the works after this,
- 8:10Speaker 1: and you're telling me no, I was discussing it with
- 8:12Speaker 1: you earlier.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if there's definitely not another deal,
- 8:15Speaker 4: but this wasn't. You could tell this deal wasn't made
- 8:18Speaker 4: with the idea that they have one already in place,
- 8:21Speaker 4: already in the works. It's just, hey, for whatever reason,
- 8:24Speaker 4: we need to get off this Jalen Brown. And I'm
- 8:26Speaker 4: just gonna say contract, we need to get off this
- 8:28Speaker 4: Jalen Brown contract and then find a way to continue
- 8:32Speaker 4: whatever it was we were doing. You could argue that
- 8:34Speaker 4: they say to themselves, well, hold on, we just won
- 8:37Speaker 4: what was it, fifty six games largely without Jason Tatum.
- 8:41Speaker 4: So now if we just flip that and go just
- 8:44Speaker 4: Jason Tatum without Jalen Brown, we're probably gonna win a
- 8:47Speaker 4: good number of games. If you look at the on
- 8:49Speaker 4: off numbers that Tom Haberstrow posted earlier today, it's pretty
- 8:53Speaker 4: damning for Jalen Brown and games without Jalen Brown. I
- 8:56Speaker 4: want to say they were thirty six and six over
- 8:58Speaker 4: the last few years, and so they can convince themselves that, hey,
- 9:02Speaker 4: we have this order to get to you know, to
- 9:04Speaker 4: not have to worry about his contract. We can bring
- 9:06Speaker 4: in another guy that, hey, when he was on, can
- 9:08Speaker 4: give you, you know, can blow up for an entire
- 9:10Speaker 4: quarter or half, maybe even a game. And yeah, we
- 9:13Speaker 4: can probably recreate what we did last year with Jason
- 9:16Speaker 4: Tatum as our lead instead of Jalen Brown, and Paul
- 9:19Speaker 4: George is my number two. Derek White still there, who's
- 9:21Speaker 4: probably the most important piece of that team. It's not
- 9:24Speaker 4: named Brown or Tatum. So I think they can convince
- 9:26Speaker 4: themselves that they that they can still be a really
- 9:29Speaker 4: good team and that Brad Stevens still did a decent
- 9:31Speaker 4: job with what he was forced to do.
- 9:34Speaker 1: It is odd or I guess validated what it is
- 9:37Speaker 1: you just said that the fact that on FanDuel the
- 9:40Speaker 1: odds for Philadelphia jumped very high to them getting out
- 9:44Speaker 1: of the East, making it to the finals, winning an
- 9:46Speaker 1: NBA title, they jumped up with Boston. They're still one
- 9:51Speaker 1: of the favorites, meaning their odds didn't go down nearly
- 9:54Speaker 1: as much as you would have thought they would go
- 9:56Speaker 1: down after losing Jalen Bratt.
- 9:58Speaker 3: So maybe there's something to what it is you're saying.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a time right after the honest tradehere,
- 10:02Speaker 4: I think Boston was still the favorite. Yeah, it's again
- 10:04Speaker 4: to the East, so yeah, it tells you what you
- 10:06Speaker 4: need to know there. What's up Taylor?
- 10:07Speaker 6: Is he?
- 10:07Speaker 5: According to Kurt Goldsberry, Dunksen three, which is a reputable
- 10:11Speaker 5: basketball analytics website that uses van stats and projections, says,
- 10:16Speaker 5: Jalen Brown is the eighty seventh best player in the league.
- 10:20Speaker 5: Where is the disconnect? Because the eye test is telling
- 10:23Speaker 5: us he's a top twenty player in the league. He's
- 10:25Speaker 5: a second team All NBA selection, he's a Finals MVP,
- 10:29Speaker 5: But his trade value and analytics are telling us, No,
- 10:32Speaker 5: that's not even really close to accurate to me.
- 10:34Speaker 4: It's style of play. To me, Jalen Brown in nineteen
- 10:37Speaker 4: ninety five is All NBA first team every single year,
- 10:40Speaker 4: right because he's strong, physical, quick, fast enough mid range
- 10:44Speaker 4: that's his goal every single time. If I'm not gonna
- 10:46Speaker 4: dunk it, I can rise up for this mid range.
- 10:48Speaker 4: You can't really reach, you know, my heights when I'm
- 10:50Speaker 4: pulling up, when I'm jumping straight up, and I got
- 10:52Speaker 4: a nice clean mid range jump shot. I think when you,
- 10:55Speaker 4: you know, play today's game, you really got to do
- 10:57Speaker 4: a little bit more of the Jason Tatum thing. It's
- 10:59Speaker 4: either you know, as what's the name of the website,
- 11:01Speaker 4: the podcast dunks three duncsan three's is all you want, right,
- 11:04Speaker 4: and so the mid range is not really your thing,
- 11:07Speaker 4: And so I think that's it's a style of play
- 11:10Speaker 4: thing for him. If if he were to want to
- 11:13Speaker 4: be more efficient offensively, he could be, he could, he
- 11:16Speaker 4: would require him to be on a team that says, hey,
- 11:18Speaker 4: I'm optioned one A at all times. Give me the
- 11:20Speaker 4: ball on the post, share the ball at the top,
- 11:22Speaker 4: give me the screen and roll. I don't think he's
- 11:24Speaker 4: going to have all those opportunities with Philly because it's
- 11:26Speaker 4: just going to be spread out. So yeah, I think
- 11:29Speaker 4: analytics does him a disservice because he's got sort of
- 11:33Speaker 4: an old school game. But can you win with him? Literally?
- 11:35Speaker 4: Have you literally have If.
- 11:37Speaker 1: You're Lebron James and you're looking over the landscape, and
- 11:40Speaker 1: he is, and he will take his time now because
- 11:42Speaker 1: he has the entire stage to himself, Philadelphia becomes a
- 11:46Speaker 1: bit more attractive.
- 11:47Speaker 3: It does, I mean, is he? It does?
- 11:48Speaker 1: If you're willing, if you're wanting to win a championship
- 11:51Speaker 1: and you're willing to play for the league minimum being
- 11:54Speaker 1: the fifth guy on that team, not that Lebron would
- 11:56Speaker 1: be the fifth guy.
- 11:57Speaker 3: That's got to be attractive to him.
- 12:00Speaker 5: My think about it, Thursday, Oh well oh really really? Yeah?
- 12:03Speaker 5: Has has Philadelphia quietly become the team that makes me
- 12:06Speaker 5: ruin it?
- 12:06Speaker 4: I can take over that.
- 12:08Speaker 3: I think he was good? Well, I didn't know that.
- 12:10Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Taylor. Taylor is a nick fan.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Though the Sixers make you more nervous than the Celtics
- 12:17Speaker 1: at this point, don't they?
- 12:18Speaker 5: As a neutral right now, I would be rooting for
- 12:21Speaker 5: Lebron to go to Philadelphia one because it makes the
- 12:24Speaker 5: most sense in terms of going to a team that
- 12:27Speaker 5: Lebron could be the thing that puts them over to
- 12:29Speaker 5: the top and become a title contender. But also is
- 12:32Speaker 5: isy that black retro seventy six Ers jersey so nice
- 12:36Speaker 5: would be the number one selling jersey with with twenty
- 12:39Speaker 5: three James on the back.
- 12:40Speaker 4: But here, here's here's my issue with Lebron and Philly. Okay,
- 12:44Speaker 4: how many years have we seen Joel Embiid not end
- 12:49Speaker 4: the playoffs either not in it at all healthy or
- 12:52Speaker 4: not end it, you know, playing well because he's injured.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Pretty much every single one, right except for maybe nineteen
- 12:58Speaker 4: if even if you have a lineup of bj Edgecombe, Tyres, Maxi,
- 13:03Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, Lebron James, and Joel Embiid, that entire team's
- 13:07Speaker 4: success is dependent on the health of Joel Embiid, because yeah, Maxi, Edgecombe,
- 13:12Speaker 4: jb and Lebron. Nice team not going to be a
- 13:15Speaker 4: favorite to run through the playoffs in next year's NBA,
- 13:18Speaker 4: which is absolutely loaded. So I think, yeah, the health
- 13:22Speaker 4: of Embiid. Embiid's history still has people hesitant. I think
- 13:25Speaker 4: Lebron is not by any chance taking his last year
- 13:29Speaker 4: potentially his last year and making it dependent on that
- 13:32Speaker 4: dude's health and then dependent on Embiid and Jaylen Brown
- 13:36Speaker 4: getting along like he's already been there with brand new teams.
- 13:39Speaker 4: He knows it's hard to get that chemistry that doesn't
- 13:41Speaker 4: feel like they're right fit for me.
- 13:43Speaker 5: They're calling hawk porty. The Embiid insurance is that what
- 13:46Speaker 5: they're calling them.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Put it on the pole.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I will tell you this, If I'm Lebron and I
- 13:50Speaker 1: choose Philadelphia, I get together with Jalen Brown and Edgecombe
- 13:53Speaker 1: and Maxie, and I tell Joel Embiid Hey, you're good
- 13:56Speaker 1: for the entire regular season. Just rest up for the postseason.
- 14:00Speaker 1: We've got the regular season covered. You be healthy for
- 14:03Speaker 1: the postseason. That's when we need you and Stu.
- 14:05Speaker 5: Adding to that, Stephen Gansey, the brother of seventy six
- 14:10Speaker 5: Ers GM, posted on Twitter a photo of his brother,
- 14:14Speaker 5: the GM Mike Gansey, and Lebron James together in high
- 14:17Speaker 5: school and just tweeted it with the eyes open emotion.
- 14:20Speaker 4: That's what's really gonna get Lebron nostalgic. Oh, I went
- 14:23Speaker 4: to high school with this guy. Let me go play
- 14:24Speaker 4: for the Sixers.
- 14:25Speaker 5: So they didn't even go to high school together. They
- 14:26Speaker 5: were just in a photo shoot together.
- 14:28Speaker 3: That's all that matters.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Yes, that's all he needs, And you would agree this
- 14:31Speaker 1: GM has already done more than Darryl Mory.
- 14:33Speaker 4: I mean, I will say though, getting Lebron on that
- 14:36Speaker 4: team will fix the graphic that people have been running
- 14:39Speaker 4: ever since the Jalen Brown trade because that one has
- 14:41Speaker 4: the starters as embiid, Maxi Edgecombe Brown, and Dean Wade.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Let's replace Stean Wade.
- 14:48Speaker 5: Lebron Dean Wade. Any right, Lebron going to play with
- 14:51Speaker 5: the d Wade.
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- 15:09Speaker 1: Me and Izzy had been laughing this afternoon that sixteen
- 15:13Speaker 1: years we are sixteen years removed from Lebron saying I'm
- 15:18Speaker 1: going to take my talents to South Beach.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Sixteen years.
- 15:21Speaker 1: It's a tribute to the man and his longevity and
- 15:24Speaker 1: how great he's been for so long that we still
- 15:27Speaker 1: care sixteen years later about where Lebron James is going
- 15:31Speaker 1: to end up in free.
- 15:32Speaker 4: Agency, not just hair stud Yes, when I heard that
- 15:36Speaker 4: Brian Windhorst said Lebron might make a decision today, yes,
- 15:41Speaker 4: I said, well that's all I'm doing today. I'm just
- 15:43Speaker 4: waiting for Lebron to make his decision. If Brian was wrong,
- 15:47Speaker 4: oh well i'll hear it tomorrow. But I am on
- 15:50Speaker 4: pins and needles. And it's not even just because it's
- 15:53Speaker 4: potentially the Miami Heat or whatever, even if it's the Warriors, well,
- 15:57Speaker 4: it's not the team and I would pick if I
- 15:58Speaker 4: were him, even if it's the war crazy interesting, even
- 16:01Speaker 4: if it's Cleveland crazy interesting, even though I think it
- 16:05Speaker 4: should be the Miami Heat. This is the best place
- 16:08Speaker 4: for both him and Bronni. It is crazy that it's
- 16:10Speaker 4: been sixteen years and that wasn't even the beginning of
- 16:12Speaker 4: his career. That was seven years into it, right.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I'm not certain we should be caring because I'm not
- 16:17Speaker 1: certain what kind of difference Lebron James would make on
- 16:19Speaker 1: an NBA team at this point in his life and
- 16:21Speaker 1: his career.
- 16:21Speaker 3: But we still care, and I think what we care
- 16:23Speaker 3: about is how.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Is he going to choose to lay in the plane
- 16:27Speaker 1: because it's going to be his final year? And is
- 16:29Speaker 1: he going to chase a ring? Is he going to
- 16:30Speaker 1: play with friends? Is he going to go to Golden State?
- 16:32Speaker 1: It's interesting, what do you got?
- 16:33Speaker 4: Taylor?
- 16:34Speaker 5: Was the decision for you guys? Aware were you moment?
- 16:37Speaker 5: Because I can remember exactly where I was for the decision.
- 16:40Speaker 5: I was on the beach in the Hampton, You're gonna say,
- 16:43Speaker 5: and I left. I left where I was so I
- 16:46Speaker 5: could get to a TV. And I remember thinking, there's
- 16:50Speaker 5: a lot of smoke that he's going to Miami, But
- 16:52Speaker 5: I think this is just a smoke screen. He's coming
- 16:54Speaker 5: to the Knicks. What a surprise.
- 16:56Speaker 3: He wanted you to think that Taylor, he did.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Yes, the Hampton's huh like a regular thing for you
- 17:03Speaker 4: because you're from New York.
- 17:04Speaker 5: Or when you're from New York, it gets so hot
- 17:08Speaker 5: that you need to go to the beach as often
- 17:10Speaker 5: as possible and go to that area.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:14Speaker 5: I don't remember. I don't remember what day the week
- 17:16Speaker 5: it was, but it was either a week get away
- 17:18Speaker 5: or a weekend get away, or maybe even just going
- 17:20Speaker 5: for the day. Sometimes sometimes you just.
- 17:21Speaker 4: Go for the day.
- 17:22Speaker 1: I've realized as I've gotten older here, I like the
- 17:24Speaker 1: beach less and less. Oh my goodness, I like the
- 17:26Speaker 1: sun less and less. I mean, I gotta be honest.
- 17:29Speaker 1: It's glaring, it gets in your eyes. The beach, it's
- 17:31Speaker 1: tricky to walk through the sand. I don't like it
- 17:33Speaker 1: at all.
- 17:33Speaker 4: This is why I bought a boat. You just eliminate
- 17:35Speaker 4: the sand from the equation altogether and just go straight
- 17:38Speaker 4: to the water.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Mikey, why are you shaking your head up there?
- 17:40Speaker 2: And what's going on?
- 17:42Speaker 7: Because I mean, first off, to Taylor's point, I actually
- 17:45Speaker 7: was in the ESPN tape room.
- 17:47Speaker 5: I had to cut the decision.
- 17:49Speaker 7: Yeah, which was honestly one of the worst days of
- 17:51Speaker 7: my life.
- 17:52Speaker 4: But to the beach thing.
- 17:54Speaker 7: We got invited July fourth to somebody's beach house, and
- 17:58Speaker 7: I am just so dread and going, Yeah, I do
- 18:00Speaker 7: not want to go.
- 18:01Speaker 4: It's such a like I don't want.
- 18:04Speaker 5: To sit there all day on the beach just be hot.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't want to go.
- 18:07Speaker 1: It's a drag, you know, get the sand off your
- 18:09Speaker 1: feet afterwards.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Pain. Yeah.
- 18:11Speaker 4: A lot of people living in landlocked areas right now
- 18:13Speaker 4: cursing all of you saying I would love a chance
- 18:16Speaker 4: to sit on a beach.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Stu, you hit it one thousand percent. If you were
- 18:20Speaker 5: doing a pie chart for problems with the beach, Yes,
- 18:25Speaker 5: sand is like ninety five percent.
- 18:27Speaker 4: I would say, tire, it's about ninety. I would say
- 18:33Speaker 4: parking and moving your stuff from your car to the
- 18:36Speaker 4: beach is another spot. If that is another maybe five percent.
- 18:38Speaker 4: If that's what you're doing, I would say seaweed if
- 18:40Speaker 4: you're in South Florida is another problem. I would say
- 18:43Speaker 4: trying to find a way to stay hydrated and not
- 18:45Speaker 4: be starving while you're sitting out and baking in the
- 18:47Speaker 4: sun is another problem. There's a lot of issues with
- 18:49Speaker 4: the beach.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Seaweed. Don't mind if I do It seems to.
- 18:54Speaker 7: Me like the whole point of the beach is to
- 18:56Speaker 7: get yourself as uncomfortable as possible and then feel better
- 18:59Speaker 7: for a minute that I'm gonna sit in the hot sand,
- 19:02Speaker 7: I'm gonna have it all over myself and I'm sweating,
- 19:04Speaker 7: and then it's like oh, but then you get to
- 19:06Speaker 7: go in the water. It's like, oh great, now I
- 19:08Speaker 7: feel normal again for a second.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Yep, Dan, go ahead.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Going to the beach is the opposite of the of
- 19:14Speaker 4: the decision. It's no decision at my age. Yeah, it
- 19:17Speaker 4: is no decision at all.
- 19:20Speaker 3: And I'm taking my talent to the pool. Yeah, and.
- 19:26Speaker 4: South Beach. Don't tell Lebron this, but it's supposed to
- 19:29Speaker 4: feel like one hundred degrees today in South Florida. Yeah,
- 19:32Speaker 4: today in South Florida.
- 19:33Speaker 1: You you wanting Lebron and your recruitment of Lebron James.
- 19:37Speaker 3: You just want him back.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Listen. I'm a man of reason, and I try to
- 19:42Speaker 4: make the most reasonable argument on any subject. Right, So,
- 19:46Speaker 4: if I'm Lebron James and I'm checking out this landscape,
- 19:49Speaker 4: I've already ruled out the Lakers. That was an easy one.
- 19:52Speaker 4: I feel like I'm going to rule out Cleveland because
- 19:55Speaker 4: he was on that golf course and he said he
- 19:56Speaker 4: doesn't even like going to his hometown of Cleveland. Yes,
- 19:59Speaker 4: and I'm sorry. I feel like Lebron James, he has
- 20:03Speaker 4: a prototype for the type of teammates he wants. I
- 20:05Speaker 4: don't think he wants to play with James Harden. I
- 20:07Speaker 4: do not think he wants to play with James Harden.
- 20:09Speaker 3: He would drive him crazy.
- 20:10Speaker 4: They would drive him crazy. Like I've said before, no
- 20:13Speaker 4: championship team will ever celebrate with James Harden in it
- 20:16Speaker 4: because he's not going to win one. Yes, and so
- 20:18Speaker 4: you eliminate them. If we're only talking about the teams
- 20:21Speaker 4: that are shown interest or finding a way to get him.
- 20:24Speaker 4: The Warriors in the heat are the final two effectively? Yes,
- 20:28Speaker 4: and yes, the Warriors sound like a great television show.
- 20:31Speaker 4: Sounds like a great documentary. Let's follow around Lebron James
- 20:34Speaker 4: and Steph Curry for an entire season. But again, we
- 20:37Speaker 4: talked about this, We talked about the names involved, who
- 20:40Speaker 4: talked about people who are not reliable in terms of
- 20:42Speaker 4: being on the floor for eighty two games, much less
- 20:46Speaker 4: one hundred and two games. So why not go with
- 20:48Speaker 4: the younger option? The guy in his prime and Giannis
- 20:51Speaker 4: and Bam and an organization that you won a couple
- 20:53Speaker 4: of championships with rather than go to Golden State, I
- 20:56Speaker 4: can start giving you a list of reasons why I
- 20:58Speaker 4: can go to Golden State. But I think the best
- 21:00Speaker 4: reasons for him to go to a team are the
- 21:02Speaker 4: ones in Miami. And again, you want to throw in
- 21:04Speaker 4: the Bronnie James thing too. There's no other franchise he's
- 21:07Speaker 4: going to get developed better. Maybe a couple other that
- 21:10Speaker 4: you can say are on par but you want to
- 21:12Speaker 4: bring Bronnie James and say, hey, we need him and
- 21:14Speaker 4: we'll keep developing him. Miami seems like the perfect place
- 21:17Speaker 4: for him.
- 21:17Speaker 1: I guess if you're looking at it from this standpoint,
- 21:20Speaker 1: And again, sixteen years after him saying he'll take his
- 21:24Speaker 1: talents down to South Beach, we're still glued to our
- 21:26Speaker 1: televisions and our phones wondering.
- 21:28Speaker 3: What Lebron is going to decide. It is fairly amazing.
- 21:31Speaker 1: But if it gets down to winning a championship and
- 21:34Speaker 1: not really taking a pay cut, meaning still getting paid
- 21:37Speaker 1: reasonable amount of money to play basket, say, all things
- 21:39Speaker 1: being equal, at the age of forty one, I guess
- 21:41Speaker 1: the heat makes the most sense right in a wide
- 21:43Speaker 1: open Eastern conference, playing with playing with Giannis, having Bam
- 21:47Speaker 1: as your number two, going to a place you're familiar with,
- 21:50Speaker 1: and then the kid is an important part for Lebron James.
- 21:53Speaker 3: To be able to leave your kid in the hands.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Of Eric Spolstra is probably the thing that makes the
- 21:58Speaker 1: most sense for Lebron James.
- 21:59Speaker 3: You have talked me to this. I can't believe it.
- 22:01Speaker 4: I knew, I knew you listen to reason. You know
- 22:03Speaker 4: what's funny is, while we're sitting here worrying about where
- 22:05Speaker 4: a forty one year old is going in free agency,
- 22:07Speaker 4: what are we doing watching Serena Williams play wimbled It
- 22:10Speaker 4: losing speaking of things that haven't had that happened, you know,
- 22:13Speaker 4: twenty years ago. It's crazy. Also, she's playing a joint.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Right, she's down five to three in the first set. Yeah,
- 22:18Speaker 3: I tell her so.
- 22:20Speaker 5: I have a small qualm with Chalms. Friend of the show,
- 22:22Speaker 5: Sham Sharaniah.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Yeah, be careful.
- 22:24Speaker 4: Yeah, with Chums.
- 22:26Speaker 5: When you say that BOMs, when you say the Lebron
- 22:31Speaker 5: decision can happen today, what I do, what I think
- 22:34Speaker 5: any reasonable person does. You turn your notifications on for Champs.
- 22:39Speaker 5: So when I put my notification on for Champs and
- 22:43Speaker 5: I get a buzz on my phone, I'm thinking in
- 22:45Speaker 5: my head immediately, my first thought is Lebron made his decision.
- 22:49Speaker 5: Where is it? It can't be Jack Landell is returning
- 22:52Speaker 5: to Atlanta.
- 22:52Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's Landale. First of all, I respect that man.
- 22:56Speaker 4: He's going to Atlanta. Really, I was hoping he would
- 22:58Speaker 4: go to.
- 22:58Speaker 5: That returning to Atlanta.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I had no idea he was there in the
- 23:01Speaker 1: first place. And why should we respect that man? It's
- 23:03Speaker 1: a nice player, Okay, nice.
- 23:05Speaker 4: Player did some decent things with the Rockets last year.
- 23:07Speaker 4: Nice little player, Oh the Rockets.
- 23:09Speaker 5: That so, Stu, you're you're good friends with Choms. I
- 23:12Speaker 5: think I crazy to say it. I think Shams considers
- 23:15Speaker 5: you almost a mentor of sorts.
- 23:17Speaker 3: He does. No, There's no question about it.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Yes, I've given him a lot of guidance throughout the
- 23:21Speaker 1: throughout the years.
- 23:23Speaker 5: I think I think one of the guidance you could
- 23:25Speaker 5: give back to Shams the way that mister Beast games
- 23:28Speaker 5: the YouTube system with multiple channels for other languages, where
- 23:32Speaker 5: he has like a Spanish channel, a French channel. Shams
- 23:36Speaker 5: should do that where he has a main account for
- 23:38Speaker 5: the superstar notifications, right, and then he has a secondary
- 23:42Speaker 5: account for all the ancillary moves.
- 23:43Speaker 4: That's where you do tell him.
- 23:44Speaker 1: That's where you put this boy, Jack Landeau, Yes, the
- 23:47Speaker 1: Landell account.
- 23:48Speaker 4: Yes. First of all, Landale also a professional athlete named Jock.
- 23:53Speaker 4: Who doesn't love that guy? Come on, I'm trying to
- 23:55Speaker 4: think of other jocks.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I mean, Vaughan.
- 23:58Speaker 4: There's the jos Jack Peterson, Jack Peterson. Yes, there's no
- 24:01Speaker 4: K on that one.
- 24:02Speaker 3: But still there's joc right, yes, there's no que. Yes,
- 24:10Speaker 3: Dan Byer.
- 24:11Speaker 6: I was going to say Jock Ewing from the Great
- 24:13Speaker 6: television show Dallas, but that was a character, so I
- 24:15Speaker 6: didn't know if it would if it would fit, and
- 24:18Speaker 6: I believe it was spelled j O c K.
- 24:20Speaker 4: Hmmm interested ah what wait, Jack Jones, Jock Vaughn. Is
- 24:27Speaker 4: that a jock?
- 24:27Speaker 3: Jock John Jack?
- 24:30Speaker 4: Yes, this is truly Jock.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Okay, So, Taylor, what you're suggesting is Shabs's main account
- 24:38Speaker 1: is just reserved for the superstars, and then he has
- 24:41Speaker 1: a secondary account for lesser.
- 24:43Speaker 5: News, right, correct, and then he can monetize both of them.
- 24:48Speaker 7: Why would you follow the other one.
- 24:51Speaker 4: Who subscribing to the Jack Landale True Notifications on for
- 24:57Speaker 4: that one.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:58Speaker 1: But to Taylor's point, he's got enough follower is that
- 25:00Speaker 1: enough people will follow him that he can monetize it.
- 25:03Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to follow it, but he
- 25:04Speaker 1: can monetize it.
- 25:05Speaker 6: Yes, Da, Taylor's basically saying, get off my jock. That's
- 25:08Speaker 6: what he's saying.
- 25:08Speaker 5: It's just just for context. His Jock Lindell notification has
- 25:17Speaker 5: two point three million impressions already.
- 25:20Speaker 4: Yep, I'm telling you a nice little player monetize that,
- 25:24Speaker 4: though you wish to be afraid the Hawks.
- 25:26Speaker 1: I would have multiple accounts for every player, just moniz
- 25:31Speaker 1: Mikey's laughing. I would have a Ja Morant account, a
- 25:33Speaker 1: Lebron James account, a Jacques account.
- 25:37Speaker 3: I mean, he can monetize it. He is right about that.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Why do you consider me a mentor of sorts?
- 25:43Speaker 1: And why do you always use mentor of sorts when
- 25:45Speaker 1: talking about mentor?
- 25:47Speaker 5: Because yeah, I feel like you can't have a ton
- 25:50Speaker 5: of mentors. So if you just if you're in there
- 25:52Speaker 5: coaching tree, per se, you're a mentor of sorts, because
- 25:56Speaker 5: I don't if you asked, Sham's no offense to you.
- 25:59Speaker 5: If he ask Shams, who's your mentor? I don't think
- 26:02Speaker 5: he would say you. I don't think you would be
- 26:04Speaker 5: the first name out of Shams's.
- 26:06Speaker 3: He would say, of sorts right for me? I think
- 26:08Speaker 3: his mentor is Woj. Yes.
- 26:10Speaker 5: If you ask Shams who his mentor is, he would
- 26:12Speaker 5: say Whoaj. If you ask Shams, hey, list out your
- 26:15Speaker 5: top twenty mentors, you might get an oli.
- 26:19Speaker 4: You know what, that's the new list. Get Shams on here.
- 26:22Speaker 4: We're gonna do top twenty list of mentors, five at
- 26:25Speaker 4: a time for four days.
- 26:26Speaker 1: I don't want to waste this time. Eight seven seven
- 26:28Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox. That is eight seven seven ninety
- 26:31Speaker 1: nine on Fox. How should lebron.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Land the plane? Let's do some sports radio?
- 26:35Speaker 4: Do it? Well, let me ask you, because you know
- 26:37Speaker 4: I convinced you that Mimi heat makes the most sense
- 26:39Speaker 4: for him. But where do you think he's going to
- 26:41Speaker 4: end up?
- 26:41Speaker 3: Closer State, Golden State?
- 26:43Speaker 4: Even with your eyes closed?
- 26:44Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did it last night with my eyes closed.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Okay, I did, And so you're seeing what?
- 26:49Speaker 3: So I closed my eyes.
- 26:50Speaker 1: I saw him playing a lot of golf with Steph
- 26:52Speaker 1: Curry possibly showing up the Lake Tahoe next year.
- 26:54Speaker 3: He's really into golf.
- 26:56Speaker 1: I think he wants to end this with his friends
- 26:57Speaker 1: and a decent shot at winning an NBA champion.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Didn't expect Lake Tahoe to make an appearance there. You
- 27:02Speaker 4: know what, I did not think about the golf. I
- 27:06Speaker 4: did not think about how golf forward he is now.
- 27:10Speaker 4: Like it's almost like you're right. He was planning not
- 27:13Speaker 4: to be with Lake Tahoe, not to play on the
- 27:15Speaker 4: in Lake Tahoe, but to be with Steph Curry and
- 27:18Speaker 4: to hang out with his boy and you know, at
- 27:20Speaker 4: least be respectable playing next to him.
- 27:23Speaker 5: So I have an idea that hasn't been thrown out yet. Uh,
- 27:26Speaker 5: Lebron's main rival during all this it has been Steph
- 27:31Speaker 5: Curry per se. But if you had to pick a
- 27:33Speaker 5: team whose main rival is who would you say?
- 27:38Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors or the San Antonio Spurs.
- 27:41Speaker 5: Okay, So it was neither of those two teams that
- 27:43Speaker 5: I had in my mind because I was thinking when
- 27:46Speaker 5: he was in the Eastern Conference, a team who very
- 27:49Speaker 5: clearly has a star on the way out. You extend
- 27:52Speaker 5: an olive branch to the Boston Celtics and say, I'll
- 27:55Speaker 5: go play with Jason Tatum.
- 27:56Speaker 4: It's not a bad idea, but that's how you had,
- 28:00Speaker 4: I guess in Cleveland and Miami that was his main rival.
- 28:03Speaker 4: But man, that was a long time ago. Well yes,
- 28:05Speaker 4: but here we are still.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Caring about where he has up in free agency.
- 28:09Speaker 4: Because I mean, he's he played, He played against the
- 28:11Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors for four straight finals. Tailor. I think
- 28:14Speaker 4: that sort of makes it more of a rival than
- 28:16Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics, does it. It's actually a really good question.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Yesh, does Lebron get a statue in LA? How does that?
- 28:21Speaker 4: How was that going to work? Just one? Yeah, he's
- 28:23Speaker 4: gonna get one. He'll probably get one.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Well, does he deserve one?
- 28:26Speaker 4: Yeah? They won him a championships, stayed there for a while,
- 28:28Speaker 4: he broke the scoring record all time there. He's got
- 28:30Speaker 4: so many moments there. He's gonna get his whatever he
- 28:32Speaker 4: wants over there.
- 28:33Speaker 3: Really, well, you say that with such confidence. Okay, I
- 28:36Speaker 3: think the Lakers are upset with him.
- 28:37Speaker 1: I think the Lakers think they Lebron probably should have
- 28:40Speaker 1: finished his career right.
- 28:40Speaker 3: Here in LA with this deed. Right.
- 28:43Speaker 4: Uh No, I think the Lakers are good moving on.
- 28:46Speaker 4: I think the Lakers are not wanting to overpay Lebron
- 28:49Speaker 4: for the number three guy on a team. You don't
- 28:52Speaker 4: really have those type of salary slots anymore where you
- 28:55Speaker 4: can overpay three guys, not overpay, but max out three
- 28:59Speaker 4: guys basically in and try to fill out the rest
- 29:01Speaker 4: of your roster. And he's, frankly, you know, if we
- 29:03Speaker 4: were to be honest, he's probably a tier below the
- 29:05Speaker 4: Max guys, if we're just you know, making the elite
- 29:08Speaker 4: of the elite the main Max guys. So no, I
- 29:11Speaker 4: don't think that they're necessarily upset. I think they know
- 29:14Speaker 4: they've got Luca Magic, and they've got Austin Reeves, a
- 29:16Speaker 4: very fan friendly player, and yeah, I think they're gonna
- 29:19Speaker 4: be just fine.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Stu on the topic of Lebron getting a statue potentially
- 29:23Speaker 5: in LA he put the Lakers put out a statement
- 29:26Speaker 5: basically thanking Lebron James, and then Lebron James did the
- 29:30Speaker 5: thing where he responds to the statement and he he
- 29:33Speaker 5: was fishing for some compliments I think at the end,
- 29:35Speaker 5: because he said no, thank you, truly in honor to
- 29:38Speaker 5: wear the purple and gold while trying to continue the
- 29:41Speaker 5: greatness and legacies that came before me, and then this
- 29:43Speaker 5: is where he starts fishing for compliments. Yeah, I hope
- 29:46Speaker 5: I made a few proud during my stat here's.
- 29:48Speaker 4: A question for you. Yeah, let's say he does. Let's say,
- 29:52Speaker 4: as confident as I am, it's it's gonna happen. Lebron
- 29:54Speaker 4: James gets a statue. Statues are reserved for the greats, don't.
- 29:57Speaker 4: I don't look at him as a Laker great. He
- 30:00Speaker 4: is the greatest of all time. And if the Lakers
- 30:02Speaker 4: can build a statue because he won them a championship,
- 30:05Speaker 4: he is amongst the greatest of all time than if
- 30:07Speaker 4: the Lakers he won a championship with the Lakers, They're
- 30:11Speaker 4: going to celebrate it. They're going to find a way,
- 30:14Speaker 4: and it's probably gonna be whatever it was, the pose
- 30:16Speaker 4: from him breaking the scoring record. But yeah, I mean statues.
- 30:21Speaker 4: What about Pau Gasol. He won a couple and he
- 30:24Speaker 4: was some would say just as responsible as Kobe Bryant.
- 30:27Speaker 4: Yes for that nine and ten. Does he have one?
- 30:29Speaker 4: Should he have one?
- 30:31Speaker 3: No, he doesn't have one. He deserves one more than Lebron.
- 30:34Speaker 1: I mean he does, didn't metal World Peace win Kobe
- 30:37Speaker 1: Bryant an NBA championship Medal World Peace should have a
- 30:41Speaker 1: statue before Lebron James. I mean, seriously, yeah, tell us.
- 30:44Speaker 3: So is he.
- 30:45Speaker 5: The Lakers statues are pat Riley, Kobe Bryant, Elgin Baylor,
- 30:49Speaker 5: chick Hern, Kareem abdul Jabbar, Magic, Johnson, Key, O'Neil, Jerry West.
- 30:54Speaker 5: If we were playing the game, one statue has to
- 30:56Speaker 5: go for this Lebron statue to go up. For some reason,
- 31:00Speaker 5: what statue go?
- 31:01Speaker 3: I like that one statue has to give me the
- 31:03Speaker 3: statues again.
- 31:03Speaker 5: Please, pat Riley, Kobe Bryant, Elgin Baylor, chick Hern, Kareem
- 31:08Speaker 5: abdul Jabbar, Magic, Johnson, O'Neil, Jerry.
- 31:11Speaker 4: West, Well, Elton Taylor.
- 31:15Speaker 5: Definitive. That's just I mean, it's the first.
- 31:18Speaker 4: It's the one that I was gonna say, chick Hern
- 31:20Speaker 4: because he's you know, he's a play by play guy
- 31:22Speaker 4: on radio, so it's but he was there forever.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Saying on radio, dismissing we're on radio.
- 31:28Speaker 8: Exactly got a point I wanted to do, though not on TV.
- 31:41Speaker 8: I'm still choosing radio and we're still interested.
- 31:43Speaker 1: In Lebron James. Unbelievable. Lebron does not deserve a statue.
- 31:47Speaker 1: If I had to take one out. I take Shack
- 31:49Speaker 1: to give lebron one.
- 31:50Speaker 3: What I would he left?
- 31:53Speaker 5: If you're back to back is if we were playing
- 31:55Speaker 5: the game, one statue has to stay. I think most
- 31:58Speaker 5: people would pick Shack.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Don't you dare disrespect chick Hearn? How dare you all
- 32:03Speaker 1: of you? Seriously?
- 32:04Speaker 4: I mean, Shack did more than kareem.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company
- 32:12Speaker 2: live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific on
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- 32:22Speaker 1: Dan is the judge of our Mount Rushmore. Mondays, we
- 32:25Speaker 1: hope that Victor Hovlin back on the show tomorrow. I
- 32:28Speaker 1: am told really, yes, you missed the first one?
- 32:30Speaker 4: Is he?
- 32:31Speaker 1: Perhaps you will not miss the sands? Taylor, do we
- 32:35Speaker 1: have an order here for the Mount Rushmore Monday? Mikey
- 32:38Speaker 1: is our champion. He gets to select the topic this week.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Taylor always decides the order randomly.
- 32:43Speaker 5: Yep, so the order is going to be Izzy Taylor, Mikey,
- 32:47Speaker 5: Stu and it's team and group nicknames.
- 32:49Speaker 1: All right, Izzy Taylor, Mikey, Stu, Iowa, Sam give me
- 32:54Speaker 1: the open.
- 32:55Speaker 3: Thank you there?
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah? You the guy with the spreadsheet tending to work.
- 33:02Speaker 2: Do you find yourself meeting up, picking up as you're
- 33:05Speaker 2: dragging in your cubicle to start the week. Are you
- 33:09Speaker 2: ready to put the sports back in sports talk? Well,
- 33:14Speaker 2: then you're in luck because every Monday we climb the mountain.
- 33:18Speaker 2: We talk the legends and we argue about things the
- 33:23Speaker 2: truth you can't handle, the truth that absolutely do not
- 33:27Speaker 2: matter and are completely subjective. This is Mount Rushmore Monday, Monday.
- 33:35Speaker 3: It is a Mount Rushmore Monday here on a Monday,
- 33:39Speaker 3: on a Monday. It's the first Monday we've done this
- 33:42Speaker 3: in a long time. Is he you are first here?
- 33:46Speaker 3: I have an idea of who you're gonna take you?
- 33:48Speaker 2: I do?
- 33:49Speaker 4: I write it down, fold it up the show.
- 33:51Speaker 1: I figure pandering to Dan Dan during go ahead, I'll
- 33:56Speaker 1: write it down. You want me to write it down?
- 33:57Speaker 4: Please please write it down?
- 33:58Speaker 7: Hold on, look, can we get confirmation there's a golden goose?
- 34:02Speaker 4: There is.
- 34:03Speaker 6: Every episode from now on there will be a golden
- 34:06Speaker 6: tickets for sure.
- 34:07Speaker 4: Okay, okay, magic goose?
- 34:11Speaker 5: Is this based on how the team was or how
- 34:13Speaker 5: cool or like, how iconic the nickname is?
- 34:16Speaker 4: It could be an individual nickname. Am I right?
- 34:18Speaker 3: Group group?
- 34:19Speaker 4: Oh, it's only group. Yes, ah, yes, okay, No, I'm glad,
- 34:25Speaker 4: I asked. I am very glad, I asked. I still
- 34:27Speaker 4: have a great first pick.
- 34:28Speaker 3: All right, Taylor, what was your question?
- 34:29Speaker 5: It's a good question, though, I just want to get
- 34:32Speaker 5: clarification from the judge. Is this based on like, how
- 34:35Speaker 5: how good the team was, how iconic the nickname is?
- 34:38Speaker 3: How cool?
- 34:38Speaker 4: The nickname is coolness? Dan Byer? Yeah, coolness?
- 34:43Speaker 3: Well he said coolness. He never does that. We normally
- 34:45Speaker 3: don't ask the judge what he's ranking.
- 34:47Speaker 5: These that's huge checks my board.
- 34:49Speaker 3: But the judge might be thrown off. You never know, Yeah,
- 34:52Speaker 3: you never know. Maybe it's not coolness.
- 34:54Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so glad I asked that question because
- 34:56Speaker 4: my first pick would have been crazy? What was your
- 34:59Speaker 4: first pick? Magic?
- 35:00Speaker 3: I wrote that down?
- 35:01Speaker 4: Yeah, well apparently no, it's got to be a team
- 35:04Speaker 4: so or a group. So I'm going with the Steel Curtain.
- 35:07Speaker 4: I didn't write that down.
- 35:11Speaker 5: Don't love that pick.
- 35:13Speaker 4: That's my picks.
- 35:13Speaker 1: It's too obvious, steel curtain? And was it cool? Was
- 35:16Speaker 1: it still curtain?
- 35:17Speaker 3: Cool? Times? It's obvious for I mean, is it cool
- 35:19Speaker 3: preventing teams from scoring? I don't know.
- 35:21Speaker 4: It's the nickname we're talking about We're not talking about
- 35:24Speaker 4: what they actually do.
- 35:25Speaker 3: It's up to Daan, not you.
- 35:27Speaker 4: So I have this team.
- 35:29Speaker 5: I had this team ninth on my big board in
- 35:33Speaker 5: terms of overall nicknames. But since Dan Bayer hinted that
- 35:36Speaker 5: he could be based on coolness, they're jumping all the
- 35:39Speaker 5: way to one. For me, it's Houston Basketball, five Slam Jama.
- 35:43Speaker 3: That's pretty good. I was pretty listen.
- 35:46Speaker 1: That team never won a national championship. Guy Lewis was
- 35:49Speaker 1: the coach or in my wheelhouse right now, Taylor a game,
- 35:52Speaker 1: Elijah on Drexler, Franklin. I mean that's a good team.
- 35:56Speaker 1: I guess it's cool.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Larry Meshaw, I mean, how about that is.
- 35:59Speaker 4: Yeah, no idea that if you like fraternities and all
- 36:01Speaker 4: that stuff, I guess it's cool.
- 36:04Speaker 1: I mean that's a great if you're doing it on coolness.
- 36:07Speaker 1: I mean, if I still have a Jama, I'm jealous.
- 36:10Speaker 4: Scratch that one off.
- 36:13Speaker 3: That's a cool nickname.
- 36:15Speaker 7: There's a still I'm gonna go a different route.
- 36:17Speaker 5: I'm gonna go based on how iconic it was.
- 36:21Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go with Dream Team.
- 36:24Speaker 4: It's pretty good.
- 36:24Speaker 5: It's a good pick. Fifth on my big board.
- 36:28Speaker 4: Dan, They're trying to influence you all the time. They're
- 36:30Speaker 4: always trying to say that my picks are terrible.
- 36:32Speaker 1: When I get to there's a golden place, you usually
- 36:35Speaker 1: have a good pick and then you ruin it.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm assuming this is going to be a
- 36:38Speaker 3: good pick.
- 36:40Speaker 1: All right, So I have the swing pick here, I
- 36:42Speaker 1: have two for based on this on coolness, fab five.
- 36:47Speaker 3: It's my first pick.
- 36:49Speaker 4: So that's your pick.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Well, that's my first pick.
- 36:52Speaker 5: Now that now the team was cool? But was the
- 36:54Speaker 5: nickname cool? I like to pick just asking questions?
- 36:57Speaker 1: Fab five is pretty cool. Yeah, I know you're asking questions.
- 37:01Speaker 1: I mean, suddenly you turn to a journalist. Man, Geez
- 37:05Speaker 1: twelfth on my big board. I liked you better when
- 37:07Speaker 1: you tell me I Jay Isaiah Joe was going to
- 37:09Speaker 1: make a difference.
- 37:10Speaker 4: Black Mamba was so high on my big board.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Gotta tell you the one I wrote down, Yes, killer Bees.
- 37:22Speaker 4: Why are you giving that one away?
- 37:24Speaker 3: I don't know are you drafting that one?
- 37:26Speaker 4: No?
- 37:26Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm gonna uh Panda to Dan Dander Legion
- 37:32Speaker 1: of Boom.
- 37:32Speaker 3: How about that legiond of Boom.
- 37:37Speaker 4: In there for fun?
- 37:38Speaker 3: Whatever?
- 37:40Speaker 5: That was a great pick. Number two of them my
- 37:42Speaker 5: big board fab five boom and if since it was
- 37:46Speaker 5: number two of them on big board, do you think
- 37:47Speaker 5: I would have just picked it but you didn't.
- 37:49Speaker 3: I didn't, but you did.
- 37:50Speaker 4: You left it for me, but you did.
- 37:52Speaker 3: So Now it's back to Taylor or not. Mikey, I'm
- 37:54Speaker 3: sorry it goes to me. Uh and I'm gonna go again.
- 37:58Speaker 7: I'm gonna go more iconic.
- 37:59Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Murderers Row.
- 38:01Speaker 4: Of course you are. I don't even know what team
- 38:03Speaker 4: that is.
- 38:04Speaker 3: That's great team that got the Yankees.
- 38:07Speaker 7: Did you hear I heard Ricardo from from from here.
- 38:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a team that got swept by the Red
- 38:13Speaker 1: Sox over the weekend.
- 38:14Speaker 3: No, that's not Murders, that's that Murderers Row is upset.
- 38:19Speaker 4: It's the Buffalo Bills in the nineteen seventies.
- 38:21Speaker 5: That Yankee team that got swept by the Red Sox
- 38:24Speaker 5: is the inmates running the assignment murders.
- 38:26Speaker 3: They're one back in the a l E. Terrible.
- 38:29Speaker 4: How could you say that? Rible?
- 38:30Speaker 5: Terrible?
- 38:31Speaker 1: Jesus, no one cares about the Yankees. By the way, Taylor,
- 38:36Speaker 1: I was just in New York City. You're right, the
- 38:37Speaker 1: Knicks had taken over and no one cares. And New
- 38:40Speaker 1: York can go twenty years without winning anything and no
- 38:42Speaker 1: one would care about it.
- 38:44Speaker 4: Seriously, they're saying beast mode is not one of my options.
- 38:46Speaker 5: No, So with my round two pick, I'm gonna go
- 38:50Speaker 5: to hockey. Surprisingly really, I'm going to go to the
- 38:53Speaker 5: Philadelphia Flyers.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Broad Street Bully, Broad Street, BULLYBBS, great.
- 38:59Speaker 5: Boy, just me, memorable fits the team identity checks all
- 39:02Speaker 5: the boxes, does it?
- 39:03Speaker 4: Really?
- 39:04Speaker 3: It's up to Dan?
- 39:06Speaker 4: I said, sorry, I'm shook.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Make sure we asked dad if that checks all the
- 39:11Speaker 1: boxes at the end and you got two picks?
- 39:13Speaker 4: Here is he? Is it me? Okay, you're shook. You
- 39:15Speaker 4: got to I'm shook. And I'm going to take a
- 39:18Speaker 4: very colorful group of purple people leaders terrible.
- 39:20Speaker 5: I think this is one of the worst names.
- 39:22Speaker 4: Purple.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them.
- 39:25Speaker 4: They're purple and they eat people. At least I know
- 39:27Speaker 4: what team that was on. And holy guacamole, I'm going
- 39:33Speaker 4: between two basketball and nicknames, and I'm going with the
- 39:37Speaker 4: recency bias. I'm gonna say Splash Brothers.
- 39:40Speaker 3: Okay, it's pretty good.
- 39:42Speaker 5: It was.
- 39:42Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you you know what, I'm gonna
- 39:44Speaker 4: go ahead and tell you, because you guys can leave
- 39:45Speaker 4: it there for me, you cannot.
- 39:46Speaker 3: But that was ahead of the Bad Boy Pistons.
- 39:52Speaker 5: All right, so funny enough. Just double check and make
- 39:57Speaker 5: sure nobody picked us. Nope. Is he mention the nickname magic?
- 40:02Speaker 3: Yeah? I was.
- 40:03Speaker 5: I'm shocked he didn't get he didn't just go with
- 40:06Speaker 5: this team instead. Yeah, the Showtime Lakers, Showtime.
- 40:09Speaker 4: It's pretty good. It's fine. It's no steel curtain.
- 40:13Speaker 5: You're right, it's better.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Could they scored steel?
- 40:17Speaker 4: Is steel Steelers.
- 40:18Speaker 3: It's in the name, you know.
- 40:20Speaker 4: Making sure Taylor notes no, no, no, no no. That was
- 40:25Speaker 4: on the Mount Rushmore of first round picks. Absolutely was
- 40:30Speaker 4: mikey A.
- 40:32Speaker 7: I was considering the Bad Boy piston since as he
- 40:35Speaker 7: mentioned them.
- 40:35Speaker 3: But I just.
- 40:36Speaker 7: Really love this name and maybe maybe it's just something
- 40:40Speaker 7: for me. I love Monsters of the Midwife. Great, Mike.
- 40:44Speaker 7: I'm so debating taking the sack exchange here. It's a
- 40:48Speaker 7: great name, absolutely fantastic name.
- 40:54Speaker 3: All right, I have a great name.
- 40:56Speaker 1: Before I get to my last pick, I have two
- 40:57Speaker 1: picks here, run t MC that's my first one, and
- 41:02Speaker 1: some bord.
- 41:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:04Speaker 3: From debating between the sack exchange, the Big Three, don't ye, hey,
- 41:09Speaker 3: don't no, no, no, no no, let's.
- 41:12Speaker 4: Not call out all the names. So we have dueling
- 41:15Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors backcourt nicknames, the Splash Brothers versus n TMC.
- 41:20Speaker 3: Yes, yep, oh, the Hobbs, the Smurfs.
- 41:27Speaker 4: Anybody gonna take the Grit and Grind Grizzlies. No, yeah,
- 41:36Speaker 4: fo defensive flip.
- 41:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Bash Brothers. After all that, I
- 41:43Speaker 1: am taking the Bash Brothers. It's a good name.
- 41:45Speaker 3: It's a cool name, Bash Brothers, It's my cool name.
- 41:49Speaker 5: Shirtis I think this is coming down to me and
- 41:55Speaker 5: Mikey what I'm like, Sure, this is coming down to
- 41:59Speaker 5: me and run t MC.
- 42:03Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna take a big swing here, Taylor.
- 42:06Speaker 4: I'm going with the greatest show on to That's where
- 42:10Speaker 4: I was just gonna go.
- 42:12Speaker 3: Out about them, for damn.
- 42:14Speaker 5: It's great pick. Jesus, I think.
- 42:22Speaker 4: Correct show on Turf, not even the best nickname of
- 42:25Speaker 4: the greatest show on blank not mad yet, I'm still
- 42:32Speaker 4: gonna win this. This is not that you would strong Defense,
- 42:35Speaker 4: Steel Curtain, Purple People leaders, all right, So you were
- 42:39Speaker 4: just hoping for a Golden next Taylors left.
- 42:42Speaker 5: This is another one that is he mentioned and for
- 42:44Speaker 5: some reason he's he's is he has mentioned more good
- 42:48Speaker 5: team nicknames than he has picked. The Stress, the bad
- 42:52Speaker 5: Boy pistons Man.
- 42:54Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good pick.
- 42:57Speaker 4: It is bad boys come out and play. But if
- 43:04Speaker 4: ever a nickname kind of summarized what they were, I mean,
- 43:08Speaker 4: they're pretty good, bad, pretty good? Is it? Mikey next?
- 43:13Speaker 5: Yep?
- 43:14Speaker 3: Killer bees were good, but they didn't kill it.
- 43:16Speaker 4: It is it just me?
- 43:20Speaker 5: Yep?
- 43:21Speaker 4: So it's I'm choosing between the Four Horsemen. Oh that's good, Jesus.
- 43:27Speaker 4: But the one that I'm actually gonna pick I like
- 43:29Speaker 4: better just because it's obviously more recent than the Four Horsemen.
- 43:32Speaker 4: The Big Red Machine.
- 43:34Speaker 5: That's really good, all right, more Rewinter, it's it's it's
- 43:39Speaker 5: rare to go, more recent and.
- 43:40Speaker 4: Still up the seventies.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Yep, it's unbelievable.
- 43:43Speaker 4: What a decade I was born in that decade.
- 43:45Speaker 3: I left so many on the table.
- 43:47Speaker 4: Jail Blazers, Yeah, yeah, great one. It's a mockery.
- 43:51Speaker 5: The Empire.
- 43:52Speaker 4: The Empires not bad, although again.
- 43:55Speaker 3: It's the Hogs, the no name Defense, I mean.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Yeah, the Heatles, Yeah, of the Eagles, well, the Big Three.
- 44:02Speaker 4: The Redeemed Team.
- 44:03Speaker 3: All right, Dan Byer, what do we think here? What
- 44:06Speaker 3: are we thinking?
- 44:07Speaker 6: Actually, I just want to I want to start out
- 44:09Speaker 6: with a question, and this is to Taylor. Taylor, what
- 44:12Speaker 6: year were you born?
- 44:16Speaker 4: Okay?
- 44:16Speaker 6: So I'm just trying to decipher if Taylor is rich
- 44:19Speaker 6: in sports history or if he's one of those poser
- 44:22Speaker 6: kids nowadays who wears Nirvana t shirts or wears you know,
- 44:26Speaker 6: because all of Taylor's were babe, he wasn't even born
- 44:30Speaker 6: yet when these names were popular, So I thought that
- 44:33Speaker 6: that was interesting. I think that mikey a is top
- 44:36Speaker 6: shelf in a lot of his dream team Monsters of
- 44:40Speaker 6: the Midway, But neither of those two had the golden ticket,
- 44:44Speaker 6: which was picked and was picked in the third round,
- 44:47Speaker 6: and it was picked by a person.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Who warriors thing. Huh, Yes, that's.
- 44:55Speaker 6: What I was trying to get to, by a person
- 44:57Speaker 6: who decided to go with a team by the Bay,
- 45:01Speaker 6: and that would be Stu Gotts run TMC was the
- 45:05Speaker 6: golden ticket today in the battle of the warrior nicknames.
- 45:10Speaker 4: So Stu is top two. You guys.
- 45:12Speaker 6: Also left Alt Pony Express, which I'm a fan of.
- 45:16Speaker 6: Early nineteen eighties SMU Lethal Weapon three at Georgia Tech
- 45:20Speaker 6: was another good one, but the golden ticket was run TMC,
- 45:23Speaker 6: so Stu's in the top two. Gosh, this is this
- 45:28Speaker 6: is really tough. Five Slam of Jama is good. It's
- 45:32Speaker 6: between Taylor and Stu for the top two spot. So
- 45:35Speaker 6: is year four Mikeys three. I hate the Fab five.
- 45:39Speaker 6: They ruined my childhood? The Fab five? How did I
- 45:43Speaker 6: know that at Boom Taylor is the winner? Five Slama
- 45:47Speaker 6: Jama and I will I will believe that Taylor loves
- 45:51Speaker 6: history and didn't just want to be trendy.
- 45:57Speaker 3: I mean, how am I to know they ruined your child?
- 46:00Speaker 4: Serious?
- 46:01Speaker 3: You know what?
- 46:01Speaker 4: I realized my mistake. Three of my four teams are
- 46:04Speaker 4: from the seventies, three of the four from the seventies.
- 46:09Speaker 3: Not knowing the topic.
- 46:13Speaker 6: The winner almost came down to my Murderer's Row joke.
- 46:15Speaker 6: Whoever laughed the loudest was almost going to win. But
- 46:18Speaker 6: I didn't think that that would be fair.