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- 0:05Speaker 1: All systems gone clear the lift up. What's up everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 1: edition of the Takedown Breakdown here on the ship a
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- 0:56Speaker 1: subscribe the notifications the heads up got my guy Naid's
- 0:59Speaker 1: here with me this week. As usual, we're going to
- 1:01Speaker 1: break it all down from a winning tournament perspective over
- 1:04Speaker 1: on DraftKings. Shout out to my boy fantas Sin right
- 1:07Speaker 1: off the top. Got another million maker in the Mega.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Lots of good names at the top of the leaderboards though,
- 1:11Speaker 1: and we'll go through the twenty dollars million maker. We'll
- 1:14Speaker 1: look at the perfect lineup. We'll have some takeaways from
- 1:16Speaker 1: last week, and then any questions you guys have, throw
- 1:18Speaker 1: them into the chat or leave them in the contents
- 1:20Speaker 1: the comments below. I'll also make sure to check in
- 1:23Speaker 1: we are giving away a free month, including Sabersim from
- 1:27Speaker 1: the Leverage Lane comments over the weekend. So I'm going
- 1:29Speaker 1: to go source those neids. I'll bring you in first though,
- 1:31Speaker 1: Man week fourteen not quite in the books. Set if
- 1:34Speaker 1: you didn't have a great mainslight yesterday of James Cook
- 1:36Speaker 1: dropping it on the goal line multiple times, hurt you.
- 1:39Speaker 1: We can get it back tonight in Monday Night Football. Also,
- 1:41Speaker 1: congrats to our guys Title and Rio last night Showdown shippers,
- 1:45Speaker 1: the Little Choppers, the Bash Bros. I know you saw
- 1:47Speaker 1: that as well. What's going on, my man?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:49Speaker 3: No, overall, another good week in the nation and it
- 1:53Speaker 3: helps when you don't have a great week yourself, right,
- 1:55Speaker 3: But to scroll through that and see a lot of
- 1:57Speaker 3: our members crushing up there, and then obviously two of
- 2:00Speaker 3: our guys Title and Rio shipping the Showdown last night
- 2:04Speaker 3: for twenty stacks, which is pretty solid. I mean, when
- 2:07Speaker 3: first place is only two hundred fifty thousand compared to
- 2:10Speaker 3: the milli and three hundred k and five hundred k,
- 2:12Speaker 3: et cetera, what it has been.
- 2:13Speaker 2: So not a terrible chop there.
- 2:15Speaker 3: So congrats goes up to them, and congrats goes up
- 2:17Speaker 3: to the many of the members in the discord.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I saw ten K winners.
- 2:20Speaker 3: I saw our guy Jonesy place top seven in the
- 2:24Speaker 3: twenty dollars million with like thirty teams or something or
- 2:26Speaker 3: twenty some teams he had there.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure you'll.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Touch on that as part of the mentorship program over
- 2:32Speaker 3: i DFS Mastermind, which we talked a lot about on
- 2:35Speaker 3: the show. So Nation had a really really good week. Again,
- 2:38Speaker 3: seems to be kind of the consistent case. And it's
- 2:41Speaker 3: not guys and girls that are thrown in one hundred
- 2:43Speaker 3: fifty lineups. It's usually twenty teams or less, and they
- 2:47Speaker 3: just continue to print. I know one hundred and fifty three.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Mac had a top ten finish it in there as well.
- 2:53Speaker 3: So overall, really good week for the Nation. Not a
- 2:55Speaker 3: great week for myself, but we got in a showdown
- 2:57Speaker 3: game tonight with the Eagles and the Chargers to hopefully
- 3:01Speaker 3: get it all back and then something that's the glory
- 3:03Speaker 3: of NFL.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Right, it only takes one week with these prizes the
- 3:06Speaker 2: way they are, so.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Had Dallas Goddard, baby, you know we love a good
- 3:09Speaker 1: Eagles slate. DAIDs, you know, had that. Speaking of our boys,
- 3:12Speaker 1: the bash Bros right here. We're the originals. We had
- 3:14Speaker 1: the sixty one k chop before you and I on
- 3:16Speaker 1: the Philly slate with the Dallas Goddard up top. That
- 3:19Speaker 1: was a Philly Houston slate. Last night Chiefs losing again,
- 3:22Speaker 1: Ravens losing again. Like just a bad scene for some
- 3:25Speaker 1: of these top end teams. But shout up to the nation.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Like you said, it was an awesome day, not just
- 3:29Speaker 1: for Rio and Title there with the twenty one thousand
- 3:32Speaker 1: dollars roughly chop. But like you said, Jonesy worked with
- 3:34Speaker 1: him on Friday and the mentorship program went through some stuff.
- 3:37Speaker 1: He's just don't talk about a be about it type
- 3:39Speaker 1: of guy, and he gets the Shador Sanders line up
- 3:41Speaker 1: to the top. Which when we were doing the mentorship call,
- 3:44Speaker 1: we were looking at stack rankings and sort of how
- 3:46Speaker 1: you can use the tools over at ship a Nation
- 3:48Speaker 1: and he said, would you go with that one? I said,
- 3:50Speaker 1: what the stack ranking showed is if you needed a
- 3:53Speaker 1: really cheap stacker, if you found a cheap stack that
- 3:56Speaker 1: you liked that Shuldar Sanders, if there was ever going
- 3:58Speaker 1: to be a spot it could be it. We saw
- 3:59Speaker 1: a couple of different people. You see our guy k
- 4:01Speaker 1: Rish said, made a run in the one hundred and fifty
- 4:03Speaker 1: dollars three Max. Thank you guys for all the great content.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Ten k for him lushid or Sanders Jones he used
- 4:08Speaker 1: it for the seventh in the Megamilly T. Jones two
- 4:11Speaker 1: hundred bucks into six k roone man, it was five
- 4:14Speaker 1: dollars into seven hundred and fifty dollars. And then Doug Craig,
- 4:17Speaker 1: always around. We appreciate you've been here from the start,
- 4:20Speaker 1: says seven hundred dollars to thirty six hundred in the process.
- 4:23Speaker 1: We trust positive ROI eight weeks this year. That's amazing
- 4:26Speaker 1: to have eight positive ROI weeks and then says total
- 4:29Speaker 1: ROI for the season thirty three point eight percent. Really
- 4:32Speaker 1: tracking it there, and then says, my brain fights to
- 4:34Speaker 1: overcomplicate this game. You guys streamline it, keep doing what
- 4:37Speaker 1: you do. So I absolutely love to see that for
- 4:40Speaker 1: the week, Nates, and you know, just another good week
- 4:43Speaker 1: of football, great games. I thought, right down to the wire,
- 4:45Speaker 1: even the you know, the garbage time we talked about
- 4:48Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, it would be the Brissett still
- 4:50Speaker 1: throwing that that last touchdown was the a catch a
- 4:53Speaker 1: touchdown another touchdown and the bonus for Michael Wilson. So
- 4:57Speaker 1: I mean, just really really helpful stuff if you were
- 4:59Speaker 1: on that, if you weren't, and not many weren't, so
- 5:01Speaker 1: it probably helped a lot of people, but just how
- 5:03Speaker 1: much did it really help them? But let's bring up
- 5:05Speaker 1: the perfect lineup here. I got it up on the
- 5:07Speaker 1: screen Aids and speaking to Shadur Sanders Chadur with fannin junior.
- 5:12Speaker 1: You get your Puoka, Michael Wilson, you get I mean
- 5:15Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. We'll talk about that. I guess Blake Korum,
- 5:18Speaker 1: T Higgins, Christian Watson really nice too, because it was
- 5:22Speaker 1: a scary spot to be in. But if most people
- 5:24Speaker 1: were on Josh Jacobs, so going to Watson at least
- 5:26Speaker 1: gave you something, even though we had some ownership that
- 5:28Speaker 1: went with them. And then of course always Seahawks when
- 5:31Speaker 1: they're not putting up thirty like last week, they're still
- 5:33Speaker 1: putting up nineteen with their special teams and getting the
- 5:35Speaker 1: job done. What do you think of this perfect lineup here?
- 5:37Speaker 2: Needs? Yeah, so throw out the Korum and the Pollard stuff.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Overall a lot of these good plays and there's leverage
- 5:43Speaker 3: that you can look on how someone could have potentially
- 5:46Speaker 3: got to somewhere similar to this.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Right, it's forty seven to three line up.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Not many people are going on an eleven game main sight,
- 5:51Speaker 3: right and leaving that kind of salary there. So you
- 5:54Speaker 3: can obviously upgrade that at the running back position and
- 5:57Speaker 3: go to guys that.
- 5:58Speaker 2: More so played.
- 5:59Speaker 3: This was like forty higher than what the milliemaker actually
- 6:01Speaker 3: won with, so anytime that happens, right, there's some nuances.
- 6:05Speaker 2: In variants right in a bill like this.
- 6:07Speaker 3: But I'll touch on the shad or standers stuff, not
- 6:10Speaker 3: to say that many people were getting to him, but
- 6:13Speaker 3: what I will say from the slate perstruction slate construction
- 6:16Speaker 3: overall value sucked in general on the slates, Right, That's
- 6:20Speaker 3: why you saw a lot of double tight end builds,
- 6:22Speaker 3: because everybody wanted those running backs up in that spend
- 6:25Speaker 3: up tier. Right, James Cook, Devon h Chan, Breise Hall, right, Judkins,
- 6:30Speaker 3: The list goes on, Jacobs, the list goes on and on.
- 6:33Speaker 2: When they were spending down, they were going to JJ McCarthy.
- 6:35Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy came in as the third highest known quarterback
- 6:39Speaker 3: on the slate at forty seven hundred dollars. Right, So
- 6:41Speaker 3: when people were spending down they were going to JJ
- 6:44Speaker 3: McCarthy because most people were if they were going to
- 6:46Speaker 3: the Browns, they were going to Judkins and the Browns defense, Right,
- 6:50Speaker 3: So how does that flip on its heat? If Judkins
- 6:52Speaker 3: and the Browns defense isn't doing their thing, maybe it's
- 6:54Speaker 3: a competitive game and it's should or Sanders in the
- 6:57Speaker 3: passing game, and you get out of there with a
- 6:59Speaker 3: skinny stack at a position two onesie positions the tight end.
- 7:02Speaker 2: When you knew Chocs Kyle.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Pitts for forty two hundred dollars compared to thirty seven
- 7:06Speaker 3: hundred dollars Carol Fanon, who's been heavily, heavily involved in
- 7:09Speaker 3: this offense, especially since Shdor Sanders has taken over. That's
- 7:12Speaker 3: how you could have got to there from the slate
- 7:15Speaker 3: construction in general, Puka Nakua, Michael Wilson, the secondary skinny
- 7:19Speaker 3: stack there from the most popular game that everybody wanted
- 7:22Speaker 3: to go to. We knew coming in Wilson was the
- 7:24Speaker 3: best play in the plate. With no Marvin Harrison, this
- 7:26Speaker 3: dude turns into Jerry Rice anytime Maserati Marv Right is
- 7:32Speaker 3: not in the game for whatever reason, call mcgarbage time expert,
- 7:35Speaker 3: whatever you want, But there's more to talk about that
- 7:38Speaker 3: when we do review the twenty dollars million maker, because yes,
- 7:40Speaker 3: Michael Wilson was chalk. Yes, Puka was fairly honed for
- 7:43Speaker 3: the price tag about fifteen percent, which again still eighty
- 7:46Speaker 3: five percent of the field not playing him. But when
- 7:48Speaker 3: you look at how many played those two, just those
- 7:51Speaker 3: two together, it was like six percent of lineup, right,
- 7:54Speaker 3: so you got ninety four percent of the people sitting
- 7:56Speaker 3: outside watching you guys get forty points from both of
- 7:59Speaker 3: those spots. And then the T Higgins leveraging Jamar Chase, Right,
- 8:03Speaker 3: everybody wanted Jumark Chase yesterday in that Buffalo Cincinnati game
- 8:07Speaker 3: a lot of times with the skinny stack of James
- 8:09Speaker 3: Cook Jamar Chase. Well, if Jamar Chase isn't doing it
- 8:12Speaker 3: at his salary, maybe it's T Higgins eating his launch
- 8:15Speaker 3: and getting the touchdowns.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And that's exactly what it was.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Christian Watcher and Watson leveraging off of Josh Jacobs. I
- 8:21Speaker 3: know it was a little scary situation with all of
- 8:23Speaker 3: Green Bay's receivers to be back for the first time
- 8:26Speaker 3: all year. So there's a lot of uncertainty there, but
- 8:28Speaker 3: Christian Watson has emerged as wide receiver one over the
- 8:32Speaker 3: last ever since he's come back. They were high in
- 8:34Speaker 3: the sky when when they drafted him things like that,
- 8:37Speaker 3: So you could have got there at a fifty two
- 8:38Speaker 3: hundred dollar price point when most people were on Jacobs in.
- 8:41Speaker 2: That game or on the other side of the pass
- 8:44Speaker 2: catchers with d J. Moore or Luther Burton.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, that's why I brought up the stack
- 8:48Speaker 1: ranking just so people could see it here. But like
- 8:50Speaker 1: this is the thing that I had pointed out. Again,
- 8:52Speaker 1: congrats to Jonesy for rolling with it, k Rish, those
- 8:54Speaker 1: guys that went there and got it done. I was
- 8:56Speaker 1: not as high on it, even though we say it
- 8:58Speaker 1: all the time, we see it in our own stuff.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Just like whatever you think about after the fact. Like
- 9:01Speaker 1: I said, it's easier once you have the answer sheet.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But what was noted, just so people see it and
- 9:04Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for how to use this stuff.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Our tools over at Ship and Nation again, you can
- 9:08Speaker 1: go try them for just nineteen dollars for five days,
- 9:10Speaker 1: get in on the action. That way, there's the monthly only,
- 9:13Speaker 1: there's the chance just to check it out for a
- 9:15Speaker 1: day pass. You can go just to ship nation dot
- 9:17Speaker 1: com slash join. More on that in the future, But
- 9:19Speaker 1: just to note it, Cleveland Shador was right there, the
- 9:23Speaker 1: third best value on the slate, the lowest owned of
- 9:27Speaker 1: all the top stacks. And look what that does for
- 9:29Speaker 1: you when you get It's not how often you're right,
- 9:30Speaker 1: it's how much you make when you are right. That's
- 9:32Speaker 1: the point of what that put you in position for.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And then we put the salary as well, and the
- 9:36Speaker 1: formula is all based off of our own projections and ownership.
- 9:39Speaker 1: But just to note it, this was number three. If
- 9:41Speaker 1: you put that in aids, I'm just messing around with it.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not landing on Pollard for me at least,
- 9:47Speaker 1: so I'm not even gonna use that one. But if
- 9:48Speaker 1: you just put in like the standard, if you put
- 9:50Speaker 1: in Sanders, Judy Fannin, you put in Pooka and Wilson,
- 9:54Speaker 1: who if you go to our wide receiver rankings, those
- 9:56Speaker 1: were the top two. If you start from by our sorry,
- 9:59Speaker 1: our values and projections and everything, those were our top
- 10:02Speaker 1: two values. Michael Wilson and Nikua. You plug in James
- 10:06Speaker 1: Cook and Josh Jacobs, both who didn't have great games,
- 10:10Speaker 1: but just obviously the two that I'm saying that we're
- 10:12Speaker 1: at the top and that you'd be able to afford,
- 10:14Speaker 1: I don't know that people would play the Browns with
- 10:17Speaker 1: those three. So I went to our second best value,
- 10:19Speaker 1: which was the Broncos. Maybe that's how people look at it,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and that leaves you forty nine hundred dollars, which is
- 10:25Speaker 1: hilarious because well, again I wouldn't have done this. It
- 10:28Speaker 1: does land you directly on Tony Polers at forty nine hundred.
- 10:33Speaker 1: So you get your little three to one, you get
- 10:34Speaker 1: your Puka Wilson, you get your top two running back
- 10:37Speaker 1: values James Cook Josh Jacobs, and then you land on
- 10:39Speaker 1: the Broncos because you're not playing the defense against Pollard
- 10:42Speaker 1: or the defense. But now I wouldn't have got to
- 10:44Speaker 1: all of that. I'm just noting when you plug it in,
- 10:46Speaker 1: I think like the Nikuah Wilson thing would have been
- 10:47Speaker 1: pretty popular or somewhere along those lines where sometimes you
- 10:50Speaker 1: can just see what it gets you give it a shot.
- 10:52Speaker 1: That though needs the interesting part, would not have won
- 10:56Speaker 1: the twenty dollars Millie, still that would have scored two
- 10:58Speaker 1: thirty two point seven to six got to give a
- 11:01Speaker 1: big shout out to Melvco two thirty nine point three
- 11:04Speaker 1: four that you can look at here, and it was
- 11:07Speaker 1: a Josh Allen line up with Dalton kin Kaid, who
- 11:11Speaker 1: I know is a lot of early tilters on the
- 11:13Speaker 1: Josh Knox stuff. I will say that stuff's always interesting,
- 11:15Speaker 1: especially later in the season. I think again, this is
- 11:18Speaker 1: more like putting your own spin on it on more
- 11:20Speaker 1: to just trust the numbers and forget about this type
- 11:22Speaker 1: of stuff. But sometimes we see it after the fact.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Mades the week that Drake London was ruled out and
- 11:27Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, they just clapsed on Bijon and said,
- 11:29Speaker 1: why don't you throw to you Kirk Cousins, Why don't
- 11:32Speaker 1: you throw to Pitts and Mooney and Casey Washington And
- 11:35Speaker 1: had that turnout for Bijon that week not so good.
- 11:38Speaker 1: In this case, it wasn't a bad week because Kincaid
- 11:40Speaker 1: was still out there running routes and getting involved. But
- 11:42Speaker 1: my guess is because he was a true game time decision,
- 11:45Speaker 1: like literally right up to the game start time, I
- 11:48Speaker 1: think there was probably a possibility of like, Okay, we've
- 11:51Speaker 1: already got all these plays ready for Knox. We know
- 11:53Speaker 1: this is how you eat them up. Let's just try
- 11:55Speaker 1: some of those plays anyway and run them out there.
- 11:56Speaker 1: And then they started working, so like, okay, we'll just
- 11:59Speaker 1: keep you this. They're not ready for it, and they're
- 12:01Speaker 1: not ready for any tight end for that matter, really,
- 12:03Speaker 1: but I'll let you go ahead here with Melvco's winning lineup.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Take us through it.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Yeah, So the first thing I see is right, coming
- 12:10Speaker 3: in the slate yesterday, what did we know?
- 12:12Speaker 1: Right?
- 12:12Speaker 3: We knew Michael Wilson was the chalkiest player on the slate,
- 12:15Speaker 3: and we knew James Cook was the second chalkiest, and
- 12:17Speaker 3: those two were going to be used a lot together,
- 12:20Speaker 3: right because of just the way people were playing the
- 12:23Speaker 3: running back position. And then they were playing that mid
- 12:25Speaker 3: tier wide receiver route right with Michael Wilson. So how
- 12:29Speaker 3: do you play that differently? Josh Allen Dalton kid right
- 12:34Speaker 3: checks note. Cincinnati is still miserable against the tight end.
- 12:38Speaker 3: They allowed thirty eight fantasy points again, Jackson, Hawes and
- 12:42Speaker 3: Dalton and k got the touchdown.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Dustin Knox almost hit one hundred yard bonus.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Right, the best matchup in football is tight ends against Cincinnati.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Everybody knows it, right, obviously everything against Cincinnati, But how
- 12:52Speaker 3: do you leverage the James Cook go to the Josh
- 12:55Speaker 3: Allen side with a onesie position in a good matchup
- 12:58Speaker 3: and avoid the wide receiver roulette right, and you know
- 13:01Speaker 3: Dalton Kinkaid's coming back. So twenty one percent of the
- 13:05Speaker 3: field played James Cook with Michael Wilson is a skinny
- 13:08Speaker 3: stack there. One percent of the field played Josh Allen,
- 13:11Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid with Michael Wilson right, flipping the game script
- 13:14Speaker 3: going in the exact same setup Josh Allen, Dalton Kincaid instead.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Of James Cook Michael Wilson right.
- 13:20Speaker 3: And then when you add in Puka, it drops down
- 13:22Speaker 3: even more so that start up there, the Josh Jacobs right,
- 13:26Speaker 3: great play, obviously everyone knew that going in yesterday Division
- 13:29Speaker 3: game at home with a healthy applied total in a
- 13:33Speaker 3: good matchup, right Jacobs was a fine play there. And
- 13:36Speaker 3: then the Tony Pollard Tennessee d I think how somebody
- 13:41Speaker 3: could have got there was going into the slate. We
- 13:45Speaker 3: knew Judkins and the Browns defense was the chalk right.
- 13:47Speaker 3: So naturally if the Browns defense is the chalk, it's
- 13:50Speaker 3: a gross game that not many people want to go
- 13:52Speaker 3: to already it's an easier click in that range just
- 13:55Speaker 3: to pair up quishn Judkins with the defense there. All
- 14:00Speaker 3: it's just a swap of the game, right. How many
- 14:02Speaker 3: times do we see these game environments flip? Not to
- 14:04Speaker 3: say that I would have got there or that many
- 14:07Speaker 3: people would have got there, but all it takes is
- 14:09Speaker 3: the game environment to flip. It's two bad teams going
- 14:12Speaker 3: up against each other. Yeah, Titans are terrible, Yeah, the
- 14:15Speaker 3: Browns are also terrible. All it takes is the game
- 14:17Speaker 3: environment to flip. For Tony Pollard to be the guy
- 14:19Speaker 3: who has shown explosive and has shown ceilings in weeks past,
- 14:24Speaker 3: and you just pair him up with the defense there
- 14:26Speaker 3: when most people were already playing Tennessee defense as well,
- 14:29Speaker 3: Why not cut into it with a guy that nobody's
- 14:31Speaker 3: playing at a position to get different. Then it allows
- 14:34Speaker 3: you to go and play the chalk everywhere else. So
- 14:37Speaker 3: that's kind of how you could have got there, And
- 14:38Speaker 3: I think it's a really sharp move. When everybody's on
- 14:40Speaker 3: one side, you flip it to the other side where
- 14:42Speaker 3: it makes sense and then still play a guy like
- 14:44Speaker 3: Carrol Fannon who doesn't really matter with the defense, right,
- 14:47Speaker 3: tight ends can get there regardless. I see a lot
- 14:49Speaker 3: of sharp players actually a lot of times when we
- 14:52Speaker 3: do review these lineups, especially in the higher stake stuff,
- 14:55Speaker 3: right when it's a chalk to defense still playing a
- 14:58Speaker 3: onesie position like a tight end against defense because you're
- 15:01Speaker 3: most so looking for them to get there on PPR
- 15:03Speaker 3: points things like that. That really doesn't affect the defense
- 15:06Speaker 3: too much overall. But a really really good build here.
- 15:09Speaker 3: The Puka Nakula Michael Wilson stack is what you needed
- 15:12Speaker 3: to have yesterday. And it's actually interesting when you look
- 15:15Speaker 3: at those six percent of lineups overall played those two
- 15:18Speaker 3: together despite being forty two and fifteen percent on.
- 15:22Speaker 2: So it just goes.
- 15:23Speaker 3: The more stuff you start adding on without being crazy,
- 15:26Speaker 3: the less people that are actually playing that that way.
- 15:29Speaker 3: So I think it's it's really nice, really good build overall,
- 15:32Speaker 3: and I think there's a lot of thought process in
- 15:34Speaker 3: how it leverages what the common plays were.
- 15:36Speaker 2: In the common roster constructions overall yesterday. Did you see
- 15:39Speaker 2: any lineups they played thirty lineups?
- 15:41Speaker 1: I think, okay, yeah, yeah, I think just because like
- 15:44Speaker 1: you know, go Collects brought it up in there on
- 15:46Speaker 1: you know, the fan and versus the defense. I have
- 15:48Speaker 1: two comments on it. I mean, one would be Washington
- 15:51Speaker 1: was one hundred bucks less. I would think that would
- 15:53Speaker 1: just make more sense. I know, it doesn't hurt it
- 15:55Speaker 1: at all because especially at a tight end position, like
- 15:57Speaker 1: anybody that's just a pass catcher seven catches for one
- 16:00Speaker 1: hundred yards, you could get shut out and get that
- 16:02Speaker 1: score and you're still good on the on the scorecard.
- 16:05Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, and it's like in Showdown, that's
- 16:07Speaker 1: the difference where people are ruling stuff like that out
- 16:10Speaker 1: and then they're wondering why the people that are winning
- 16:12Speaker 1: three hundred thousand for first place and unique shippers are
- 16:14Speaker 1: you know, the defense versus the quarterback and all this other.
- 16:17Speaker 1: That's that's normal and showed on why the edge still
- 16:19Speaker 1: exists for something like this. It's not an edge. It's
- 16:21Speaker 1: not a bad thing either. It's just noting that it's
- 16:23Speaker 1: you know, could have played a defense that was under it.
- 16:26Speaker 1: One thing I was gonna say, though, is interesting is
- 16:27Speaker 1: like the Cleveland d super popular thirty seven, would you
- 16:30Speaker 1: rather play like Dawson Knox in this and the Commander's
- 16:34Speaker 1: D or would you play or Dawson knock Sorry and
- 16:37Speaker 1: the Browns D or do you play Fannin and the
- 16:39Speaker 1: Commander's D and spend the same money but get a
- 16:41Speaker 1: piece that goes with Tony Pollard and whatever like that.
- 16:44Speaker 1: So there's always little intricacies that you could see. And
- 16:47Speaker 1: then he said, Pollard, like this is my thoughts, right,
- 16:50Speaker 1: Like I get it, Like you know, even then, I
- 16:52Speaker 1: don't know what did Cleveland end up getting to in this?
- 16:55Speaker 1: Can we find one? I mean they were pretty popular.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, twenty five point five percent, so having
- 17:01Speaker 1: something to get that against that, sure, that would make sense.
- 17:03Speaker 1: But I mean going into Cleveland, the Titans got to
- 17:06Speaker 1: just get loose. I would not have expected that score
- 17:08Speaker 1: from Pollard. It's just like a perfect storm of the
- 17:11Speaker 1: way that works out. Let's see, we'll see some of
- 17:15Speaker 1: these other lineups you asked. Some people are talking about that.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I just want to see what else we got here,
- 17:18Speaker 1: just catching up on you guys, and I got a
- 17:19Speaker 1: couple other things I'm gonna go through in a second giveaway,
- 17:22Speaker 1: the free month for the level from the Leverage Lane
- 17:24Speaker 1: show as well. I got a really good comment over there.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Let's see there was something else, oh this one? Yeah,
- 17:29Speaker 1: so Wix definitely got riskier if you were following my
- 17:32Speaker 1: stuff over at Shipper Nation after leverage Lane, I ended
- 17:35Speaker 1: up even changing my core off of it, because now
- 17:37Speaker 1: it was like Golden's probably gonna be reed was ruled
- 17:39Speaker 1: good to go, and then Golden was probably gonna be
- 17:42Speaker 1: ruled in. What was interesting, though, is the setup is
- 17:44Speaker 1: it was still limited. I was just looking at it
- 17:47Speaker 1: here now. So Reid played twenty five versus like Christian
- 17:50Speaker 1: Watson and Dobbs played forty two and forty four, and
- 17:53Speaker 1: so you know, Reid was still somewhat limited, but Bo
- 17:55Speaker 1: Melton got a little bit more Wix and Golden only
- 17:58Speaker 1: got you know, five snaps each, and then they played
- 18:00Speaker 1: their tight ends a bunch with Fitzpatrick, Musgrave Wiley, like
- 18:04Speaker 1: all those guys were in a bunch more so maybe
- 18:06Speaker 1: a little more twelve personnel. But yeah, once that gets
- 18:09Speaker 1: back into the fold, it's much trickier to expect Wix
- 18:12Speaker 1: to have a big game when there's two more wide
- 18:14Speaker 1: receivers that come into the fold. So I still tried
- 18:17Speaker 1: it on a few spots, but was not my main
- 18:20Speaker 1: After the fact, like I told people on the show yesterday,
- 18:22Speaker 1: this was definitely painful, you know, Cook fumbled. But that's
- 18:27Speaker 1: the jonesy right there, so he said Cook fumbled to Yeah,
- 18:29Speaker 1: I know that hurts, but like he said, it looks
- 18:32Speaker 1: good on the he said, looks better on the stone
- 18:34Speaker 1: with the colors if we go over to the stone.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I mean, this is just the way it goes sometimes.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Obviously a very unfortunate situation, but it was really nice
- 18:43Speaker 1: for James Cook until it wasn't right. His rush defense matchup,
- 18:47Speaker 1: the color code, the potential for the ceiling, it was
- 18:50Speaker 1: just unbelievable some of the stuff, the way it shakes out.
- 18:53Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought a good week for the tools Nay's,
- 18:55Speaker 1: Like Tyler Shock was running touchdowns in multiple's, Shadora ended
- 18:58Speaker 1: up on some of the winners. Stafford and Brissett. We
- 19:01Speaker 1: knew that was a game to target. I feel like
- 19:03Speaker 1: these types of other guys were sort of in the
- 19:05Speaker 1: mix until they were injured or out, like Gino and
- 19:07Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. But yeah, the majority of what you needed
- 19:09Speaker 1: was in the top. I showed it there earlier. If
- 19:11Speaker 1: you just go to this little trio, put Pooka, put Wilson,
- 19:15Speaker 1: you can get James Cook Buffalo way down here. So
- 19:19Speaker 1: if you're not playing the passing stack, why not play
- 19:21Speaker 1: the running back? And this would have won fully, but
- 19:23Speaker 1: it would have been a pretty good score. You get
- 19:24Speaker 1: onto Josh Jacobs, you put in a defense that you like,
- 19:29Speaker 1: whatever it might be. If it's going to be the
- 19:30Speaker 1: Cleveland d you who had had fifty one hundred dollars
- 19:32Speaker 1: left over, and you could get around two twenty to
- 19:34Speaker 1: two thirty on the score sheets. So little things like
- 19:37Speaker 1: that will always help out. I think let's go back
- 19:39Speaker 1: to the lineups here. I don't know where they saw it.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Sully bro Chill, he said correlations. Sully obviously an incredible
- 19:46Speaker 1: player and most people know him from across all sports,
- 19:49Speaker 1: but definitely crushed and I saw I want a live
- 19:50Speaker 1: final seat. Yesterday another one, I should say, I had
- 19:53Speaker 1: had a huge day all around. And I think what
- 19:56Speaker 1: he was saying was, can we see eventually he only
- 19:59Speaker 1: has three of the eight lineup trends. I don't know why.
- 20:02Speaker 1: I think that's actually an error in Fantasy Labs. Just
- 20:05Speaker 1: a note they've had it off and on a few
- 20:06Speaker 1: different times, like they got one right here. But clearly
- 20:10Speaker 1: he's got the quarterback bring back, he's got the pass catcher,
- 20:14Speaker 1: he's got a game stack, which that includes both. He's
- 20:16Speaker 1: got a team stack that includes both, so I don't
- 20:18Speaker 1: know why it's saying three their neids. But his lineup
- 20:21Speaker 1: was Stafford, Pooka Wilson. It had James Cook, Harvey the
- 20:27Speaker 1: Minnesota Defense, which was the opposite side of Commanders by
- 20:30Speaker 1: the way, and really came through. That was another good one.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Two nads. If you look here, you and I do
- 20:34Speaker 1: this all the time, we talk about just flipping it.
- 20:37Speaker 1: If you look at the Commanders getting up there in ownership,
- 20:42Speaker 1: the Vikings opposite so like you could see the ownership
- 20:44Speaker 1: right here, the Vikings opposite side with higher leverage and
- 20:47Speaker 1: still a decent enough score for the three thousand dollars
- 20:50Speaker 1: price range. So I just thought that was interesting there too,
- 20:53Speaker 1: and low stack ranking, no real crazy chalk on this side.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Anything else you see there with this lineup aids No.
- 21:00Speaker 3: I just think a lot of people when they were
- 21:01Speaker 3: going to the Stafford stuff, they were going to Devanta
- 21:04Speaker 3: Adams for the salary savings to be able to get
- 21:06Speaker 3: up at running back to guys like Devon h Chan right,
- 21:09Speaker 3: paired with James Cook, right, everybody wanted James Cook yesterday
- 21:13Speaker 3: for a good reason.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Right to match up everything.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Sometimes the best plays just don't work out because these
- 21:18Speaker 3: guys forget a hold on a football sometimes, which was
- 21:20Speaker 3: obviously the case there, so they were more so the
- 21:24Speaker 3: reason people were using double tight end and maybe like
- 21:28Speaker 3: a Devanta Adams in a setup like this was to
- 21:30Speaker 3: spend up at that second running back position to a
- 21:32Speaker 3: guy like a Chan to a guy like Josh Jacobs
- 21:35Speaker 3: up there, so flipping it and going to Pukinikula, which
- 21:39Speaker 3: I think actually he came in lower own than Devanta
- 21:42Speaker 3: Adams because of the salary savings, right, So I think
- 21:44Speaker 3: that's an interesting setup of flipping it. When most people
- 21:48Speaker 3: are going there, they're going Wilson as a salary savings,
- 21:51Speaker 3: but then Devanta Adams as well to then spend up
- 21:53Speaker 3: instead of using double tight end to go up and
- 21:56Speaker 3: get double spin up running back. So I think that
- 21:59Speaker 3: was kind of an trusting little roster construction flip there overall.
- 22:03Speaker 3: And then obviously the Minnesota defense is still a good
- 22:06Speaker 3: defense opposite side of the Commanders. They're at home against
- 22:10Speaker 3: a banged up Jaden Daniels. I mean it just it
- 22:13Speaker 3: happens all the time, right For one hundred dollars more
- 22:17Speaker 3: or two hundred dollars more whatever they were. It's not
- 22:19Speaker 3: like one was four k and one was twenty five hundred, right,
- 22:22Speaker 3: they were like within a couple hundred dollars of each other.
- 22:24Speaker 3: And you knew the Browns were soaking up so much
- 22:26Speaker 3: ownership at the top and then down at the lower
- 22:29Speaker 3: lower tier it was the Titans and it was the Commanders.
- 22:31Speaker 3: It leverages all of that, just flipping the flipping the
- 22:34Speaker 3: onesie position.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to bring this one up too. Phantom
- 22:37Speaker 1: was excellent leverage on the Stone project to be a
- 22:39Speaker 1: great point for dollar play. He was our second best
- 22:42Speaker 1: after I want to say, I'll try and pull it
- 22:45Speaker 1: up on a side here just so I can see
- 22:46Speaker 1: it quickly. Yeah, McBride was our best value even at
- 22:50Speaker 1: eight thousand. Like that was what was popping about Heym yesterday.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Why you knew that game stack and things like that.
- 22:54Speaker 1: But Fann and even ahead of Warren, even ahead of
- 22:58Speaker 1: pitts Loveland was up there as well too. But of note,
- 23:01Speaker 1: when you go back to the Stone fan in there
- 23:02Speaker 1: was a great high upside option solid optimal very a
- 23:06Speaker 1: solid optimal with high leverage is kind of the better
- 23:09Speaker 1: combination versus when we go to the Vikings at a
- 23:12Speaker 1: second they were high leverage, but not like the craziest optimal,
- 23:14Speaker 1: but still good. But this is an example where like
- 23:17Speaker 1: Brenton Strange ten point nine seventeen point eight for his
- 23:20Speaker 1: median and a ceiling a seven to be optimal just
- 23:23Speaker 1: because the way the game stack sets up and things
- 23:25Speaker 1: like that, not many people going here. If people are
- 23:26Speaker 1: already on browns, that's the optimal. Is a totally different
- 23:29Speaker 1: story to get into on another day, but just to
- 23:30Speaker 1: note it, that's where that would come from. It's more
- 23:32Speaker 1: likely that bright Brenton Strange would end up because of
- 23:34Speaker 1: stacking and secondary sacks and things like that. So that's
- 23:37Speaker 1: why he shows more optimal. But just of note one
- 23:40Speaker 1: point three on a seven, six point seven on a
- 23:43Speaker 1: two point nine at potentially half the ownership going down
- 23:46Speaker 1: here we showed it already, but higher leverage versus negative
- 23:50Speaker 1: leverage even on a big number. But at defense it's
- 23:52Speaker 1: trickier because usually you don't want a more popular defense.
- 23:55Speaker 1: I played a ton of the Commanders too, so it's
- 23:57Speaker 1: fine just wherever it ends up when it falls together.
- 23:59Speaker 1: But yeah, the the vikings, I think my other guy,
- 24:03Speaker 1: you know, also in the Mentorship program. Tim d. Dublin
- 24:05Speaker 1: says that not much talk about Vikings dst Stone has
- 24:08Speaker 1: them as an a minus pass defense. You see here
- 24:11Speaker 1: and with Daniel's returning, that's a thing like this is
- 24:14Speaker 1: actually a great call out for those who don't know
- 24:16Speaker 1: how to use this fully or or like struggle with
- 24:18Speaker 1: using the stone, but they know it's great because everything's
- 24:20Speaker 1: in one place. Is that's another thing you could look at.
- 24:22Speaker 1: So look, it's not the highest optimal, but it's opposite side.
- 24:26Speaker 1: If that flips, that's in your favor. It's great leverage it.
- 24:29Speaker 1: They already have a good pass defense going against a
- 24:32Speaker 1: low pass stack ranking and then you're like the running
- 24:35Speaker 1: back room is Chris Rodriguez Junior and Jeremy McNichols and
- 24:38Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's like, maybe I'll just play this
- 24:41Speaker 1: defense instead. So there's more that you can take away
- 24:43Speaker 1: from it and put together. I really like that call
- 24:45Speaker 1: out quite a bit. But yeah, that was another good
- 24:48Speaker 1: point our Man hamdwhich I mentioned this the show yesterday.
- 24:50Speaker 1: He said, playing one fifty one fifty was his note
- 24:54Speaker 1: in his fan duel slate, playing they were thirty three
- 24:56Speaker 1: hundred over there, mind you, which is you know, very
- 24:58Speaker 1: similar to their pref You look at the Comman twenty
- 25:00Speaker 1: eight and then forty four hundred on FanDuel, almost the
- 25:04Speaker 1: same price for the Vikings, but he had said play
- 25:06Speaker 1: them everywhere in one fifty one fifty a man. Yeah,
- 25:08Speaker 1: sad scene for for zach Ertz though, that was definitely
- 25:11Speaker 1: tough and uh with you know, Mariota tears in his eyes,
- 25:14Speaker 1: Ertz cry. I can imagine that's what looks like, you know,
- 25:18Speaker 1: probably done for mister zach Ertz unfortunately so great career,
- 25:22Speaker 1: but that that's obviously sadding time you see that. Whatever
- 25:24Speaker 1: he chooses to do, good for him. But I think
- 25:26Speaker 1: you know, when you see those type of injuries, especially
- 25:28Speaker 1: later in the season, having a pretty good year, just
- 25:30Speaker 1: had a great week the week before, it kind of
- 25:32Speaker 1: sucks to see that. So anything else on the stone
- 25:35Speaker 1: aids anything else you wanted to call out from this week,
- 25:37Speaker 1: I will see.
- 25:38Speaker 2: I just think the uh. I think I wonder if R. J.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Harvey and Harrol Fanin was it the exact same price
- 25:43Speaker 3: as Kenneth Walker and Kyle Kitz fifty thirty seven hundred,
- 25:50Speaker 3: fifty seven hundred was what that's.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Eighty four in forty two I think.
- 25:56Speaker 3: It was pretty close. Yeah, so it was pretty close.
- 26:01Speaker 3: I think that's also pretty interesting, right, we knew R. J.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Harvey was also in a good spot and kind of
- 26:07Speaker 3: in the same price range is Kenneth Walker. And then
- 26:11Speaker 3: Harold Fannin right leverages the Judkins stuff as well, So
- 26:15Speaker 3: in a popular kind of secondary stack of Pitts, Kenneth
- 26:19Speaker 3: Walker clipping it to something like that, I think is
- 26:22Speaker 3: pretty interesting as well. At obviously not correlated there, but
- 26:28Speaker 3: he could have got to something like that right. Even
- 26:30Speaker 3: looking at the stone, they both look good. Harvey looked good,
- 26:32Speaker 3: Fannin looked good. And then again when most people were
- 26:36Speaker 3: playing Kyle Pitts, I think Kyle Pitts came in in
- 26:38Speaker 3: the Mega Kyle Pitts was like thirty percent out. I
- 26:41Speaker 3: don't know what he was in this contest, but I
- 26:43Speaker 3: would assume he was the chalkiest tight end on the
- 26:45Speaker 3: board because in that game, that's because Jon was too expensive, right,
- 26:49Speaker 3: People didn't want to get up to Bijon, so they
- 26:52Speaker 3: wanted a piece on the other side of the Seahawks stuff,
- 26:54Speaker 3: and it was just the easiest click, was Kyle Pitts, Right,
- 26:58Speaker 3: So you knew.
- 26:58Speaker 2: That kind of going into the sleigh yesterday.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do another quick scan. But you know,
- 27:04Speaker 1: mister dude did have him in second place. He did
- 27:08Speaker 1: make it up there on a lot of rosters. But
- 27:09Speaker 1: just just goes to show you too, like Jackson Smith
- 27:12Speaker 1: and Jigba almost thirty points still not on the twenty
- 27:16Speaker 1: dollars million maker winner, and again he won by twelve
- 27:19Speaker 1: and didn't even need it. So hey, he does show
- 27:21Speaker 1: up a bunch up there. It's not to say that,
- 27:22Speaker 1: it's just more to point out the fact of what
- 27:25Speaker 1: could have been right. It's just it's not always required.
- 27:28Speaker 3: So real quick up is really sharp, mister dudes. Because
- 27:33Speaker 3: when most people are doing the double tight end punts
- 27:36Speaker 3: right in that three k range, they were spending up
- 27:39Speaker 3: at running back right. So he used those to double
- 27:42Speaker 3: spend at receiver, which nobody was doing yesterday. From I mean,
- 27:46Speaker 3: you could have ran optimizers, you could ran everything, even
- 27:48Speaker 3: went and built.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Truck, started plugging a right.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Most people were clicking James Cook Devon h Chan up
- 27:54Speaker 3: at the top tier, so they're dropping down a tier
- 27:55Speaker 3: below that to Josh Jacobs. And then that allows you
- 27:59Speaker 3: to double spend up receiver, which nobody was doing. Yesterday
- 28:02Speaker 3: when they were when they were punting the flex position
- 28:05Speaker 3: with a tight end for the salary for the value,
- 28:07Speaker 3: because value sucked, they were spending up at running back.
- 28:09Speaker 3: So again it's another roster construction. How to see the
- 28:13Speaker 3: kind of slate before we have the answer sheet, like
- 28:15Speaker 3: we're talking about now.
- 28:16Speaker 2: It's obviously very easy for us.
- 28:17Speaker 3: To talk about this, but we're how can you pull
- 28:20Speaker 3: these kind of lessons out before the slate? And you
- 28:22Speaker 3: knew yesterday going in people wanted to spend up at
- 28:24Speaker 3: running back and if they were spending at receiver, it
- 28:27Speaker 3: was at one spot, not not multiple.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Well yeah, and too another thing, just you know, this
- 28:31Speaker 1: is a I gues. I mean, now everyone believes in this,
- 28:34Speaker 1: and it's fine for some, it's working really well for
- 28:36Speaker 1: And I've been talking with people on this plenty over
- 28:39Speaker 1: at Mastermind, in the discord at ship a Nation and
- 28:41Speaker 1: the mentorship calls all that, But the inside out builds
- 28:44Speaker 1: that we talked like Hookah Wilson was pretty damn obvious.
- 28:47Speaker 1: It didn't mean you had to play Matt Stafford. That
- 28:50Speaker 1: Pooka doesn't require Matt Stafford. Always didn't mean you had
- 28:53Speaker 1: to play Brissette. These guys can literally just catch seven
- 28:57Speaker 1: passes one hundred and fifty yards of one touchdown and
- 28:59Speaker 1: still be awesome but not need their quarterbacks. But if
- 29:02Speaker 1: this is a very sharp build, because like you said,
- 29:04Speaker 1: not just with the double like flip the bill, gimme
- 29:06Speaker 1: Pooka and JSN plus Wilson, that means you're not on Walker.
- 29:11Speaker 1: So if you're not on Walker R J. Harvey one
- 29:13Speaker 1: hundred bucks popular too. I'm just saying, and I don't
- 29:16Speaker 1: know if I can find it here for somebody. Is
- 29:19Speaker 1: there any Walkers that made it to the top and
- 29:21Speaker 1: failed that we can see? Someone played sharpen A at
- 29:25Speaker 1: one percent.
- 29:27Speaker 3: Twenty first told me, I don't know if that's the
- 29:29Speaker 3: first one, but that was the first one.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Yeah, point three, So it wasn't like it was a
- 29:32Speaker 1: super leverage play. But just to note it like that's,
- 29:34Speaker 1: you know, you, when you're not doing something doing something
- 29:37Speaker 1: else makes sense. One hundred bucks more to go there.
- 29:39Speaker 1: And then it's a similar piece on if you're gonna
- 29:41Speaker 1: go to two spend up receivers and the best value
- 29:44Speaker 1: on the slate in Michael Wilson going in, why not
- 29:47Speaker 1: have Colston Loveland as opposed to Luthor Burden the third,
- 29:51Speaker 1: and most of you playing Jacobs are playing in with
- 29:53Speaker 1: Luthor Burden the third, not with Loveland, and then commanders
- 29:57Speaker 1: D just sort of slots in. But you notice Fannin
- 29:59Speaker 1: and shrad or sand just make it work now, optimizers,
- 30:02Speaker 1: I get it. All these other factors that people always
- 30:04Speaker 1: bring up in the live chat, like you''ve been doing
- 30:06Speaker 1: this for a long time, we understand it.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Yeah, but mister dude played this guy played one team,
- 30:10Speaker 3: so this was definitely not an optimizer build.
- 30:11Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, pulled it from one.
- 30:13Speaker 1: But like I said, if it's a handbuild, I like
- 30:15Speaker 1: that better because that would make my case. I guess
- 30:17Speaker 1: my point was, I don't know. Again, even some people
- 30:21Speaker 1: would go the other way with that outside in and say,
- 30:22Speaker 1: okay if I go with Shador and Fan and what
- 30:24Speaker 1: does that get me? But the way this one seems
- 30:27Speaker 1: put together again, just my assumption is like, would that
- 30:30Speaker 1: make you think of Loveland and Jacob's or are you
- 30:33Speaker 1: starting to build it like, Okay, I need these two.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I want to see what it looks like with JSN. Well,
- 30:37Speaker 1: now I'm gonna need a cheaper stack, all right, What
- 30:39Speaker 1: if I try chaduur Fannin I'm not on Kenneth Walker
- 30:43Speaker 1: because I'm on JSN. I'll play Harvey. What are my options? Well,
- 30:46Speaker 1: Jacobs and Luther Burden puts you at a bad defense,
- 30:49Speaker 1: like it puts you way down at twenty two hundred dollars. Well,
- 30:51Speaker 1: what if I just play Loveland as a secondary with
- 30:54Speaker 1: them a I land on the defense. Everybody likes this
- 30:56Speaker 1: week in a pretty good spot against JJ McCarthy, or
- 30:59Speaker 1: so they thoughts. So I think that's kind of the
- 31:01Speaker 1: focus of like again, even if they didn't think of
- 31:03Speaker 1: it that way, a way that you can look at
- 31:05Speaker 1: builds and to twenty seven, while it didn't win the
- 31:07Speaker 1: million dollars, first of all, won one hundred k off
- 31:10Speaker 1: twenty bucks too. We're thinking about like smaller field stuff.
- 31:14Speaker 1: I mean, you could have a one ninety nine yesterday
- 31:17Speaker 1: would have won a ton of you know, the twenty
- 31:19Speaker 1: five dollars and the satellites and things like that. So
- 31:21Speaker 1: there's a ton of different ways that you can use
- 31:23Speaker 1: this to your advantage and think about I want to
- 31:25Speaker 1: pull up our guy Jonesy here his lineup, but we
- 31:29Speaker 1: showed earlier. We just showed the top of it with
- 31:30Speaker 1: the screenshot, but shador Sanders, Judy Fannin, and the defense
- 31:35Speaker 1: went the full onslot against Tennessee. I don't hate that
- 31:37Speaker 1: because it was also a way to really differentiate your
- 31:40Speaker 1: Cleveland spot. Ended up having James Cook Chase Brown in
- 31:44Speaker 1: that same game, the common back to back that we
- 31:47Speaker 1: talked about, that secondary stack, which just regardless of ownership,
- 31:50Speaker 1: made a ton of sense, and then Christian Watson where
- 31:53Speaker 1: most were slotting in sixty eight hundred dollars Josh Jacobs.
- 31:57Speaker 1: So this this is a really nice lineup. Obviously needed
- 31:59Speaker 1: a little bit more from James Cook, but easily could
- 32:03Speaker 1: have got it. And I like the way to that
- 32:04Speaker 1: he attacked that game in this lineup of saying like, yeah,
- 32:07Speaker 1: there's gonna be fifty five points like it says, but
- 32:09Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come on the ground with the
- 32:11Speaker 1: snow and the weather and all of that. Like this
- 32:14Speaker 1: one just builds itself. Dad, seriously, Shador, Judy Fannin and
- 32:18Speaker 1: the defense. That game is gonna be running instead. They're
- 32:21Speaker 1: gonna score fifty five points, but it's gonna be through
- 32:23Speaker 1: the running backs in the snow. The best secondary stack
- 32:26Speaker 1: on the slate, but using it in a completely unique
- 32:28Speaker 1: way with a one percent, two percent, five percent guy
- 32:31Speaker 1: with a popular defense that if you put this in
- 32:33Speaker 1: stack Seeker, no one even has half this shit, let
- 32:35Speaker 1: alone with the D and then oh, I can't fit
- 32:38Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. I'm gonna get a piece of that Green
- 32:41Speaker 1: Bay game. I'm gonna take it in Watson, the guy
- 32:43Speaker 1: that's kind of been secure no matter who is there,
- 32:45Speaker 1: regardless of whatever. And again this one didn't get to
- 32:48Speaker 1: the top, but to eighteen point eighty six plays quite
- 32:50Speaker 1: nicely pretty much anywhere you look, besides the one hundred
- 32:54Speaker 1: and fifth forty seven thousand person tournament, where it still
- 32:57Speaker 1: sits in seventh place for twelve thousand, five hundred dollars.
- 32:59Speaker 1: An extra thoughts on this.
- 33:00Speaker 3: One, Yeah, just the double running back from the same game.
- 33:03Speaker 3: A lot of people hate to do that. And when
- 33:05Speaker 3: they were playing James Cook, most were playing them with
- 33:07Speaker 3: Jamar Chase Right. Five and a half percent of lineups
- 33:11Speaker 3: played James Cook with Chase Brown, which was basically the
- 33:14Speaker 3: exact same as the total that played James Cook with
- 33:18Speaker 3: Brice Hall right. But Chase Brown is actually probably more
- 33:22Speaker 3: correlated to a guy like James Cook, just with the
- 33:24Speaker 3: receiving game.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Out of the backfield.
- 33:26Speaker 3: There so it's not like Chase Brown is a run
- 33:28Speaker 3: between the tackles type guy. He's heavily involved in the
- 33:31Speaker 3: passing game. So it's not like they're anti correlated there.
- 33:34Speaker 3: And when most people were doing that, they were going
- 33:36Speaker 3: to t Higgins or Jamar Chase within that same game
- 33:39Speaker 3: to then be able to play a guy like Brice
- 33:41Speaker 3: Hall or Josh Jacobs or all of those other guys
- 33:44Speaker 3: in that sixty five hundred dollars range, right, or one
- 33:46Speaker 3: hundred dollars more going to Josh Jacobs over Chase Brown, right.
- 33:50Speaker 3: So I think it was a very very sharp build
- 33:53Speaker 3: in general, with how the field was building and taking
- 33:57Speaker 3: the leverage plays without getting complete off the board.
- 34:01Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of thought process in
- 34:03Speaker 2: this and overall really good building. It did great. It
- 34:06Speaker 2: just didn't get all the way to the top. And
- 34:08Speaker 2: that's just the nature of the runout there.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I'll say too, just again going back
- 34:13Speaker 1: to it, because everyone you know always complains about Michael
- 34:15Speaker 1: Wilson chalk and da da da da dah whatever. Well,
- 34:18Speaker 1: first of all, Puka wasn't really chalk down here at
- 34:20Speaker 1: fourteen percent. I mean there's tons of guys that were
- 34:23Speaker 1: used more than him. Jamar Chase would have been considered
- 34:26Speaker 1: the wide receiver chalk and almost twenty percent, but just
- 34:28Speaker 1: it doesn't doesn't really matter. The note is more or
- 34:30Speaker 1: higher pointing to James Cook failed a Chan, unfortunate injury
- 34:35Speaker 1: for a Chan. That would have been a pretty good day.
- 34:37Speaker 1: I think for him. He was just cruising. But the
- 34:39Speaker 1: Cleveland d failed, Luther Burden not that great, Jamar Chase
- 34:43Speaker 1: not much. Jacob's late touchdown even to get to seventeen,
- 34:47Speaker 1: which does play well on the day at hand, right
- 34:49Speaker 1: when you see the guys like Jay Gutt, well like
- 34:51Speaker 1: Cook and those guys fail. But just of note, ad
- 34:54Speaker 1: Ni Mitchell nothing, Harvey good day, Judkins no, Watson good
- 34:59Speaker 1: and then Pitt's Bucky pretty solid like Bucky again could
- 35:01Speaker 1: have been a lot better. But yeah, just to note,
- 35:02Speaker 1: like when this happens, that's the kind of day that
- 35:04Speaker 1: you get. But the you know, the Wilson thing was
- 35:06Speaker 1: kind of the key and what you did with him,
- 35:08Speaker 1: I will say, because we hit on Sully, bro, We're
- 35:10Speaker 1: gonna go to the Megamilly in the second here my
- 35:12Speaker 1: boy fan of sin. But Sully's portfolio, just because it's
- 35:15Speaker 1: here one hundred and fifty lineups one hundred and forty
- 35:17Speaker 1: seven unique one hundred and three players in the pool
- 35:22Speaker 1: max of fifty four percent ownership on Michael Wilson as
- 35:25Speaker 1: you can see here but next to the field, and
- 35:27Speaker 1: you just want to see how somebody else that you
- 35:28Speaker 1: know is good. That's you know, playing a full portfolio.
- 35:30Speaker 1: How they're playing it. They ended up having a successful
- 35:32Speaker 1: day with the eight dollars there if you look. But
- 35:36Speaker 1: just going to this under on James Cook, over on Wilson,
- 35:41Speaker 1: under on a Chan field on Cleveland on Cleveland, and
- 35:45Speaker 1: Luther Burden field on Jamar Chase, over on Jacobs, over
- 35:49Speaker 1: on ad Ni Mitchell, and then kind of fields out
- 35:52Speaker 1: after that, but over on Kyle Pitts. So you start
- 35:55Speaker 1: to see and then I'm just gonna look for some
- 35:56Speaker 1: of the overages right when you go this way, Nate,
- 35:58Speaker 1: It's kind of how I look at this stuff is
- 36:00Speaker 1: like where else? Okay, Kenneth Walker, what do you think
- 36:04Speaker 1: happens there? Well, Pitts and Walker get in put into
- 36:06Speaker 1: some combinations, you know, when you're looking at your other
- 36:10Speaker 1: options like Brese Hall and ad Ni Mitchell and pieces
- 36:13Speaker 1: like that, those start to make sense, right you see
- 36:16Speaker 1: the Green Bay with Chicago match in the field like
- 36:19Speaker 1: kind of that set up. So when we talk on
- 36:21Speaker 1: leverage Lane about the common build coming together for single entry,
- 36:25Speaker 1: for the large fields, and for the portfolio side of things,
- 36:28Speaker 1: which is what this show focuses a little bit more
- 36:30Speaker 1: on in the review process, is you can start to
- 36:32Speaker 1: see how the users common builds come together, right, you
- 36:36Speaker 1: can start to figure that out and say, okay, like
- 36:38Speaker 1: I'm looking through this right now, I don't see any
- 36:42Speaker 1: quarterbacks yet, right, so you can look here, and I
- 36:45Speaker 1: think it used to at least let you maybe it
- 36:49Speaker 1: doesn't now shoot anyway, I'll try and go to it here.
- 36:51Speaker 1: But let's see Jacoby Burssett and I miss one aids.
- 36:55Speaker 1: There's eleven.
- 36:57Speaker 3: So if you go to compare exposures, tab and type
- 36:59Speaker 3: in so as the user, you can then filter by position.
- 37:02Speaker 3: And they always moved stuff around and now, my, oh,
- 37:11Speaker 3: he pretty much. I mean he was basically field with
- 37:15Speaker 3: So if you start by field Josh Allen, Josh Allen, he.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Was half the field.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Jacobe he matched it or thought he was matching it,
- 37:24Speaker 3: matched it with Tyrod, matched it with Joe Burrow, was
- 37:28Speaker 3: a little bit over on Matthew Stafford because he was
- 37:31Speaker 3: double the field of Pukah, which makes sense there half
- 37:34Speaker 3: the field of Tyres show shuck, I.
- 37:38Speaker 2: Mean over the field on Jaydon Daniels, So I mean
- 37:41Speaker 2: he was pretty much.
- 37:42Speaker 3: With the field in terms of ownership on quarterback, which
- 37:46Speaker 3: seems to be kind of the common common theme across
- 37:51Speaker 3: the industry, right is kind of matching the field with
- 37:53Speaker 3: quarterback because it does get so spread out.
- 37:56Speaker 2: It's kind of silly to.
- 37:57Speaker 3: Go that overweight on one guy in particular with most
- 38:02Speaker 3: of the most of the quarterbacks staying in that ten
- 38:04Speaker 3: to fourteen range at kind of the ceiling.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not working. Work. You just nailed it, and
- 38:09Speaker 1: just to bring it like you see start to see
- 38:11Speaker 1: it down here the sevens, the sevens, you know you
- 38:13Speaker 1: see on where was the other Stafford, the ten, Jayden Daniels,
- 38:17Speaker 1: the ten point seven Brisset, the eleven point three, So
- 38:20Speaker 1: pretty spread out at quarterback. You see up here how
- 38:23Speaker 1: some of the running backs go. James Cook, Josh Jacobs
- 38:26Speaker 1: excuse me, talked about it on our earlier part of
- 38:29Speaker 1: the show. The in our rankings, those were the top
- 38:31Speaker 1: two as far as a point per dollar. Kenneth Walker
- 38:33Speaker 1: was up there some of those guys, so that makes sense.
- 38:35Speaker 1: And the tight end over on coppits over on Wilson Nakua,
- 38:38Speaker 1: the two up top there, so again using the projections
- 38:40Speaker 1: and then just putting the lineups together in a way
- 38:43Speaker 1: that ends up differently. You mentioned there's the dude. Mister
- 38:45Speaker 1: dude got the job done with the one lineup for
- 38:48Speaker 1: ninety nine thousand. My man Freddy B says, shut up
- 38:51Speaker 1: to the stone and the sax score. I had a
- 38:53Speaker 1: few shadoor fan in stacks of courtunate I didn't get
- 38:54Speaker 1: at the top of the leader board, but the process
- 38:56Speaker 1: definitely works. Yeah, appreciate you man. Love seeing that, hearing
- 39:00Speaker 1: that on a Monday morning. Let's go too if this
- 39:02Speaker 1: will work for this, because it's not working for anything else.
- 39:04Speaker 1: My guy Fantas in the leaderboard though. Over here this
- 39:07Speaker 1: is awesome to see because I noticed this as well too.
- 39:11Speaker 1: My guy Skyler Hoke, he got the job done and
- 39:13Speaker 1: you know he posts out all the ownership for golf.
- 39:16Speaker 1: You guys see that all the time over at ETR
- 39:18Speaker 1: himself working for the PGA side of things. But these
- 39:20Speaker 1: are fantasyin Skyhoak. A lot of these guys up here,
- 39:23Speaker 1: these are folks that are very loud on the leader
- 39:26Speaker 1: boards but silent on the screenshots. They don't need to
- 39:29Speaker 1: post them out. These are big wins. They're getting them
- 39:31Speaker 1: all the time. Just amazing people, amazing players, and we
- 39:34Speaker 1: get to see it again. So I'm gonna look at
- 39:35Speaker 1: these lineups. It's weird. Second place was actually a chop.
- 39:39Speaker 1: I know it shows the numbers here, but it was
- 39:40Speaker 1: what I saw, at least when I finalized yesterday. Was
- 39:43Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty k each for completely different build.
- 39:46Speaker 1: It's like a Stafford build with randomness, like different his
- 39:50Speaker 1: own stuff versus a random Josh Allen lineup that has
- 39:53Speaker 1: different stuff throughout it. So that's crazy on a point
- 39:55Speaker 1: twenty four to tie. But the big one, my man
- 39:58Speaker 1: Gillome got the job done, huge momentum. He had all
- 40:01Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football World Championship seats locked up early, couldn't
- 40:05Speaker 1: even play in the last few because once you get
- 40:07Speaker 1: the max seats, you're you're done. You just sit back
- 40:08Speaker 1: and chill made the field a little bit easier for
- 40:10Speaker 1: those trying to get in late. So awesome job there.
- 40:14Speaker 1: He takes all the momentum and runs into New Orleans
- 40:18Speaker 1: this week coming up so good luck to him and
- 40:20Speaker 1: anybody else that's gonna be down there. But let's look
- 40:22Speaker 1: at Giomes lineup here fantasy and got one ninety four
- 40:25Speaker 1: point sixty four. It is a Josh Allen naked lineup,
- 40:31Speaker 1: and then it has, you know, a bunch of It's
- 40:33Speaker 1: got Jacobs and Hall, who both you know, kind of
- 40:35Speaker 1: did whatever haul nothing. It's got the Nakoua Wilson, it's
- 40:38Speaker 1: got Jack Besh at point three. It's got Harold fannin
- 40:41Speaker 1: with the defense, and a Kyle Pitt. So it's more
- 40:44Speaker 1: of like a put the projections together with enough leverage
- 40:47Speaker 1: in there, and then I'd be very curious, like the
- 40:49Speaker 1: Jack Besh play, if that was a late swap feature
- 40:54Speaker 1: or something that went in there, or if that was
- 40:55Speaker 1: just a thought going in. But give me, give me
- 40:57Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one, NAT's it's a pretty interesting build.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it could have been a late swap something here
- 41:04Speaker 3: with late swap because obviously Kouka, Wilson, Jacobs and Bash
- 41:09Speaker 3: were all in the afternoon, so it could have been
- 41:11Speaker 3: something with like a Luther Burden but get you off.
- 41:15Speaker 1: But just I was gonna say that, but then so
- 41:17Speaker 1: forty nine to nine so it's not like, yeah, I mean,
- 41:21Speaker 1: but the other thing is like you weren't changing. You
- 41:24Speaker 1: weren't changing to Kua and Wilson, like I said to people,
- 41:27Speaker 1: even if you had them. So it couldn't have been
- 41:29Speaker 1: Jacob's and Luther Burden because there's nothing else that you
- 41:32Speaker 1: could swap. But I was thinking because of the bad
- 41:35Speaker 1: start from Reese Hall, the Cleveland d whatever, like maybe
- 41:40Speaker 1: he made up for it somewhere else. But I don't know.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Was there someone at thirty one hundred or somebody else
- 41:44Speaker 1: at three k that that could have been that, you know?
- 41:45Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean thirty eight hundred, Vile and Burden
- 41:50Speaker 3: were the chalk value receivers. I'm just looking. The other
- 41:54Speaker 3: guy that could have been played down there but he
- 41:56Speaker 3: couldn't have got was Pat Bryant from the Broncos on
- 42:02Speaker 3: the other side of that game. I mean, realistically, nobody
- 42:05Speaker 3: else was even played down there. I mean, Brandon Cooks,
- 42:09Speaker 3: he could have got to as tied to Josh Allen
- 42:13Speaker 3: jack Bash, yeah was one percent, I.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Mean one line he got him in, yeah, of all
- 42:18Speaker 1: his So yeah, that's interesting too, just to see. But yeah,
- 42:21Speaker 1: here here's his exposures. Goes A lot faster on a
- 42:23Speaker 1: smaller field. I forgot that's why it was slow one
- 42:25Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven thousand users. But in the sixty
- 42:27Speaker 1: four with multiple entries, very high on what you could
- 42:31Speaker 1: see sort of came together in his lineup. If you
- 42:33Speaker 1: look here, it's like there's Nikua, there's Pits, there's Fan
- 42:37Speaker 1: in there.
- 42:37Speaker 3: The Kis I mean, Zakias was the Zakias could have
- 42:41Speaker 3: on the other side of Jacob.
- 42:42Speaker 2: So he could have played Zakias that went to one
- 42:44Speaker 2: of the Millie.
- 42:44Speaker 3: He would have because Zakias scored eight point seven compared
- 42:47Speaker 3: to eleven. But you could have threw Zakis in there
- 42:50Speaker 3: to make it make more sense from the roster construction overall.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was that, But then I don't know
- 42:56Speaker 1: why swap off and I'm interested. I'll maybe I'll uh
- 42:58Speaker 1: see what he says. But yeah, that's just interesting to see.
- 43:00Speaker 1: So either way, you know a lineup that kind of
- 43:03Speaker 1: just puts it together from the pieces that were within
- 43:06Speaker 1: his portfolio and just put them together in a unique way.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Being that you've got even without the Jack Besh situation,
- 43:12Speaker 1: you still had Harold Fannon was only six point six.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Alan naked not trying to figure the rest out hope
- 43:17Speaker 1: to get a ceiling score. Really it looks like, if
- 43:20Speaker 1: you think about it, what Alan can do for a slate,
- 43:22Speaker 1: what Jacobson Hall are capable of? These two clearly the
- 43:25Speaker 1: best together Fan and Pitts Cleveland, like, these are all
- 43:28Speaker 1: gonna be very solid medians with potential ceilings. And then
- 43:32Speaker 1: just put them together in a bit of a different way,
- 43:34Speaker 1: but not the commonalities we typically see of the pass catchers,
- 43:38Speaker 1: the bringbacks, the stacks, the team stacks, like even though
- 43:41Speaker 1: the glitch here it says it's a team stack. I
- 43:44Speaker 1: guess Fannin and Cleveland counts or something like that, but yeah, overall,
- 43:49Speaker 1: no game stack unless you know it's counts secondary stacks
- 43:51Speaker 1: as a game stack. I think so maybe that's why.
- 43:53Speaker 1: But yeah, either way, got the job done for one
- 43:56Speaker 1: hundred ninety four point six four points another cool million dollars.
- 43:59Speaker 1: Anything else to add on this one?
- 44:00Speaker 3: Name?
- 44:00Speaker 1: Is I want to look at some of these others?
- 44:02Speaker 3: Nope, No, I think uh, I actually think das build
- 44:09Speaker 3: in fifth is actually really.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll look at un first and then we'll go
- 44:13Speaker 1: back to Skyhok and finish out with that. And I
- 44:15Speaker 1: got the winner of the leverage lane comment, I'll read
- 44:17Speaker 1: out to everybody and announce that. But Dah's lineup that
- 44:21Speaker 1: finished in fifth again, you know he's got a bunch
- 44:23Speaker 1: of lineups in here as well as usual. But it
- 44:25Speaker 1: was a Lamar Likely, it had DK on the run back,
- 44:31Speaker 1: nikoua Wilson again, obvious Cook Hall, really solid Bannon and
- 44:36Speaker 1: Jets defense makes a ton of sense there down below
- 44:39Speaker 1: with the two tight ends and the two cheaper tight ends.
- 44:41Speaker 1: But give us your thoughts on this one. You liked
- 44:42Speaker 1: it and called it out. Very unique build but still
- 44:45Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense. And if you think about
- 44:46Speaker 1: the inside out approach of like, okay, James Cook, Nikua Wilson, Now,
- 44:50Speaker 1: how do I get different? Well, play two tight ends
- 44:53Speaker 1: and play Lamar with Likely and Metcalf and then just
- 44:56Speaker 1: see what fits in from there. And presaw even with
- 44:58Speaker 1: the defense pretty solid as well.
- 45:00Speaker 3: Yeah, not only that, I think more people in a
- 45:02Speaker 3: build like this or clicking Matthew Stafford at sixty five hundred, right,
- 45:05Speaker 3: and you're just saying that they're probably clicking Matt Stafford
- 45:09Speaker 3: and maybe Parkinson was one hundred dollars more right, So
- 45:12Speaker 3: you take Lamar Jackson down two hundred dollars to Stafford.
- 45:16Speaker 3: Now you can go up to Likely to Parkinson and
- 45:18Speaker 3: make it a Parkinson Nakol Wilson, which is much popular
- 45:21Speaker 3: much chalk your stack, and you're just doing it basically
- 45:23Speaker 3: a TV two off of that and saying Lamar and
- 45:26Speaker 3: Likely can be beat out Parkinson and Stafford straight up,
- 45:28Speaker 3: which they obviously can tie it to DK Metcalf, who's
- 45:31Speaker 3: under priced in that mid tier when you know everyone's
- 45:34Speaker 3: going to guys like Christian Watson obviously Michael Wilson there.
- 45:37Speaker 3: So I think it's a very very sharp build in general.
- 45:39Speaker 3: And you knew Breeshall was getting played, but not many
- 45:41Speaker 3: people were playing brese Hall with the Jets defense. If
- 45:44Speaker 3: I went to stack Seeker and looked at it, I'm
- 45:46Speaker 3: sure it's very very small percentage. So I think it's
- 45:49Speaker 3: a really really sharp build in general, which find no surprise.
- 45:53Speaker 3: Obviously Youta is one of the best players in the
- 45:55Speaker 3: entire world at all sports, especially especially in the NFL.
- 45:59Speaker 3: So I think it was a really really sharp build.
- 46:01Speaker 3: And yeah, seventeen of the six hundred and thirty four
- 46:04Speaker 3: lineups played Brisall with the Jets defense, despite Breshall being
- 46:09Speaker 3: having his ownership.
- 46:10Speaker 1: So yeah, it was one hundred and twenty lineups or
- 46:12Speaker 1: something with Breese Hall, so give or take, so just
- 46:14Speaker 1: use an easy math. But yeah, the note here is
- 46:17Speaker 1: very interesting, Like you said that because Parkinson was thirty
- 46:20Speaker 1: one hundred I believe right.
- 46:22Speaker 3: So thirty one or thirty two hundred, So either way,
- 46:25Speaker 3: it's the Stafford. The Stafford Parkinson setup works with the
- 46:29Speaker 3: Lamar and likely set up.
- 46:32Speaker 1: He would need to find two hundred bucks still to
- 46:34Speaker 1: go to that. But of note, he would have been
- 46:36Speaker 1: able to find it because like DK Metcalf can just
- 46:39Speaker 1: become whoever at that point because you don't need him anymore.
- 46:42Speaker 1: But if he had to just fill this out with
- 46:43Speaker 1: Parkinson at thirty one hundred and with Stafford, he would
- 46:47Speaker 1: add to find someone off of DK Metcalf, And I'm
- 46:49Speaker 1: not saying it would exist, So it wasn't like saying
- 46:51Speaker 1: to put him in first. I'm just to your point.
- 46:53Speaker 1: That's what makes it so sharp is it's like a
- 46:55Speaker 1: flip of the build while still using the interior guts
- 46:58Speaker 1: of a Stafford or set lineup where you have Nikoua
- 47:02Speaker 1: and Wilson in there. So it makes it makes a
- 47:03Speaker 1: ton of sense from that perspective as just a way
- 47:05Speaker 1: to play it completely different. All right, skyhaak my guy here.
- 47:10Speaker 1: He had a Stafford lineup. We was talked about Stafford.
- 47:14Speaker 1: He had the Staca sorry, the stack of the Stafford
- 47:17Speaker 1: nikoua Wilson set up. He had Harvey and Sutton, he
- 47:24Speaker 1: had Josh Jacobs. He had Barner where most are playing
- 47:27Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. He had Pitts, So Barner Pitts is very interesting.
- 47:30Speaker 1: That's a sneaky one. And then he had the Minnesota defense.
- 47:34Speaker 1: They're again not sure of late swap stuff because there's
- 47:40Speaker 1: three hundred bucks on the table. Man, you know it's
- 47:44Speaker 1: crazy Christian Watt. Oh you know what else? So Christian
- 47:48Speaker 1: Watson was fifty two hundred, Yeah, this would have been
- 47:53Speaker 1: two hundred five. It would have been instead of Lamar Metcalf,
- 47:57Speaker 1: likely it would be Stafford and Watson. And you get
- 48:04Speaker 1: a piece of the Green Bay game when you're not
- 48:06Speaker 1: on Jacob. Again, everyone this is we know, you know
- 48:09Speaker 1: knows what he's doing quite well. Obviously we know what
- 48:11Speaker 1: we're talking about. It's not about like, man, what an
- 48:14Speaker 1: idiot for not playing that. We're not saying that at all.
- 48:15Speaker 1: We're saying, like, when you reverse engineer this stuff. What
- 48:19Speaker 1: you can sometimes do is make it process for your
- 48:21Speaker 1: mind a little bit quicker when you're building your own
- 48:24Speaker 1: single entry and handbuild stuff, or when you're thinking for
- 48:26Speaker 1: what your lineups could look like or should look like
- 48:29Speaker 1: for your portfolio, and it's just, you know, there's an
- 48:32Speaker 1: argument to be said for that that he sees that,
- 48:34Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, again going through his lineups
- 48:37Speaker 1: or picking them or whatever the process is for his
- 48:39Speaker 1: setup for a limited number for this field. The point
- 48:42Speaker 1: is you may see that and say, man, that's gonna
- 48:46Speaker 1: give me a lot more chalk into this build versus
- 48:49Speaker 1: Likely Metcalf and Jackson really separate that, and I still
- 48:53Speaker 1: pick up the middle right, He's playing to win, So
- 48:56Speaker 1: you know, to say the other one makes more sense
- 48:58Speaker 1: or fits better is not the case necessarily. This one
- 49:00Speaker 1: makes perfect sense and fits fine and gives them all
- 49:02Speaker 1: the leverage in the world if Jackson and Likely do
- 49:05Speaker 1: a little bit more and he wins the Millie. So
- 49:07Speaker 1: it's like not competing with nearly the other lineups regardless
- 49:10Speaker 1: of size of field, but just interesting to go back
- 49:13Speaker 1: and see. If you're handbuilding and you're like, well, how
- 49:15Speaker 1: can I make a good lineup that makes sense and works.
- 49:18Speaker 1: That is a fine way to do so where it
- 49:20Speaker 1: could have been a piece of the Green Bay for
- 49:21Speaker 1: not on Jacobs with Watson, sorry here for Metcalf and
- 49:26Speaker 1: then put Parkinson in with Nikua and that gets you
- 49:29Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford, where you'd have a Stafford, nikoua Parkinson,
- 49:34Speaker 1: run it back with Wilson and then get Watson in
- 49:38Speaker 1: there for your green Bay piece and still fill it
- 49:40Speaker 1: out from there. S Yeah, always some cool stuff to
- 49:41Speaker 1: find that way. We'll go back to Skyhaks lineup on Aids.
- 49:44Speaker 1: Anything you want to add here, because what I was
- 49:46Speaker 1: looking at was with Sutton and Harvey. I'd wonder if
- 49:52Speaker 1: he thought about keeping that or if he got to that,
- 49:55Speaker 1: because there is something to be said. Everyone has a
- 49:56Speaker 1: different opinion on this, but if you are playing it's
- 49:59Speaker 1: tough to know if you're playing from behind right because
- 50:02Speaker 1: you've only got you know, you still got four spots
- 50:05Speaker 1: left and other teams have full game stacks, et cetera.
- 50:07Speaker 1: But you're clearly not changing Nukua and Wilson. So I
- 50:10Speaker 1: guess my thoughts would be with Jacob's Harvey and Sutton
- 50:15Speaker 1: that was a later game, right, I'm not confusing with you.
- 50:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that five window.
- 50:19Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the thing I was gonna talk about
- 50:21Speaker 1: is good thoughts that sometimes people wonder about. Should I
- 50:24Speaker 1: keep two guys from the same team where they could
- 50:27Speaker 1: hurt each other's ability to get the ceiling, or do
- 50:30Speaker 1: you just roll with the projections and say I'm gonna
- 50:32Speaker 1: keep what it already has for me, it's it liked
- 50:34Speaker 1: it from before. Sometimes it's tough to tell, but I
- 50:36Speaker 1: just think that's an interesting factor where maybe there was
- 50:38Speaker 1: a I don't know, it's like a hundred bucks shy
- 50:42Speaker 1: of going to gent and Sutton, So I don't know
- 50:47Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to get the hundred bucks there.
- 50:48Speaker 1: But I'm just saying if there was an opportunity like that,
- 50:50Speaker 1: I just wondered if that was ever a thought for
- 50:52Speaker 1: people or what you think of that?
- 50:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh so, I think it was actually pretty
- 50:57Speaker 3: sharp because again it goes back to the park Plkinson setup.
- 51:00Speaker 2: At thirty one hundred dollars.
- 51:02Speaker 3: He obviously played two tight ends from the early window,
- 51:06Speaker 3: which when most people were playing Kenneth Walker or Kyle Pitts,
- 51:10Speaker 3: they were attaching it to Kenneth Walker. Then using both
- 51:13Speaker 3: tight ends within the same game in an AJ Barner
- 51:16Speaker 3: Kyle pitt especially in the setup with a Matt Stafford
- 51:18Speaker 3: right when people were double stacking Stafford yesterday, Parkinson was
- 51:22Speaker 3: basically a must because of the prices in Nikoua in
- 51:25Speaker 3: DeVante Adams right, so skinny stacking it with just a
- 51:30Speaker 3: Puka is also sharp. But then double leveraging down on
- 51:34Speaker 3: a roster construction, you play R. J. Harvey over Kenneth Walker.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Then on the other side you go do an AJ
- 51:39Speaker 3: Barner who's been heavily involved in the offense every week.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Granted he only scored five points, but from the roster
- 51:44Speaker 3: construction standpoint of the build, it makes a ton of
- 51:47Speaker 3: sense in a setup like this and then gives you
- 51:49Speaker 3: flexibility to do whatever in the afternoon when you only
- 51:53Speaker 3: have three spots that are locked in in the morning
- 51:56Speaker 3: in AJ Barner, Kyle Pitts and then the Minnesota defense
- 51:59Speaker 3: other side of the Washington Chalk defense, and then you
- 52:03Speaker 3: probably he probably had he could have had some sort
- 52:05Speaker 3: of iteration here of maybe like a Josh Jacobs and
- 52:09Speaker 3: either like a Luther Burden set up, so Luthor Burden
- 52:14Speaker 3: instead of Sutton, and then he would he could have
- 52:17Speaker 3: had one of the spend up running backs or something
- 52:19Speaker 3: like that. There could have been late swap involved here,
- 52:22Speaker 3: but I think the set up with a J. Barner
- 52:26Speaker 3: at the same price basically as Kobe Parkinson in a
- 52:28Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford build on the opposite side to slice and
- 52:31Speaker 3: dice into Kyle pitch Chalk, who came in at thirty
- 52:34Speaker 3: percent in this contest, and projections would have showed that
- 52:38Speaker 3: ownership projections even in sabersand for high stake stuff had
- 52:41Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts is far and away the highestzoned tight end
- 52:43Speaker 3: on the slate, and most of that was paired with
- 52:46Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker in that R. J. Harvey range, And that's
- 52:49Speaker 3: why R. J. Harvey's ownership got held in check because
- 52:52Speaker 3: there was other guys like a Kenneth Walker in that
- 52:54Speaker 3: range that people wanted to play.
- 52:57Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing that stands out to me, I
- 52:58Speaker 1: think it's dollar for dollar is like Michael Wilson to
- 53:01Speaker 1: Luther Burden across from Josh Jacobs is thirty eight hundred, right,
- 53:06Speaker 1: so it's eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one and twenty one
- 53:10Speaker 1: hundred more for Sutton gets you to Adams. So you
- 53:13Speaker 1: could add like a Stafford pooka Adams no run back
- 53:17Speaker 1: with Luther Burden across from Jacobs. But it's like, man,
- 53:20Speaker 1: I can't be playing all that chuck, So how do
- 53:23Speaker 1: I get it different?
- 53:24Speaker 2: Now?
- 53:24Speaker 1: I can add the Wilson chalk, but I remove the
- 53:26Speaker 1: other by going to a Sutton, which would separate me.
- 53:29Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if these are the moves
- 53:30Speaker 1: that were being made. It's just always interesting to look
- 53:32Speaker 1: back and see what could have been or what sort
- 53:34Speaker 1: of leads you to that thought process. I'll definitely text
- 53:36Speaker 1: my guy and ask them about the Jack Besh because
- 53:39Speaker 1: I'm very curious now. But yeah, anyway, congrats to these guys.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Like I said, the loud on the leaderboard, silent on
- 53:44Speaker 1: the screenshots. They don't need them, they got a lot
- 53:46Speaker 1: of them, so congrats to them. Nice to hit these
- 53:48Speaker 1: big scores right before the holidays. It get some momentum
- 53:51Speaker 1: going into like Phantas Sin into the live final this
- 53:53Speaker 1: upcoming weekend, and just congrats to everybody. It was you
- 53:56Speaker 1: know some of the people we look through the winners
- 53:58Speaker 1: out there at least really big we for some and
- 54:00Speaker 1: no matter what you think of the week, there's always tonight.
- 54:03Speaker 1: And then also just in general, it's always you know,
- 54:05Speaker 1: there's always money to be made during the NFL season.
- 54:07Speaker 1: So it's not your week this week, maybe it will
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- 54:22Speaker 1: you guys can go check it out there. The episode
- 54:23Speaker 1: from the other Day on Saturday said, among the favorite
- 54:25Speaker 1: parts of Leverage Lane for me is and and by
- 54:28Speaker 1: the way, this is the best show I've found one.
- 54:31Speaker 1: You've won a lot, so I trust you you're playing
- 54:33Speaker 1: what you're saying. So many other industries, like financial advisors
- 54:37Speaker 1: aren't rich, therapists aren't happy, and executive coaches spent a
- 54:41Speaker 1: quick stint as an executive, I want advice from people
- 54:44Speaker 1: who walk the talk. Two. So many shows just go
- 54:47Speaker 1: game by game and by the time they're done, they've
- 54:49Speaker 1: talked about eighty percent of players as options. The yeah,
- 54:53Speaker 1: I could see stacking this side, or stacking it this way,
- 54:55Speaker 1: or grabbing this piece. Three. You're both generally curious about
- 54:59Speaker 1: each other's opinion. That alone, But how many shows do
- 55:02Speaker 1: we watch people barely listening and barely and being caught
- 55:05Speaker 1: not listening or paying attention. One thing I would add
- 55:08Speaker 1: is that you take some stances. At some point near
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- 55:41Speaker 1: any final thoughts from you and my mam before we
- 55:42Speaker 1: get out of here.
- 55:43Speaker 2: No, I think it was overall good.
- 55:45Speaker 3: It was good week for the nation again, not a
- 55:48Speaker 3: great week yet for myself. Had a close call last
- 55:51Speaker 3: night and showed on that's the nature of the game, right,
- 55:53Speaker 3: everybody's a one v one or two v two away,
- 55:55Speaker 3: even a zero riter with.
- 55:57Speaker 2: A captain flip. But hopefully hopefully the showdown tonight.
- 56:00Speaker 3: I've been close in showdowns, so hopefully hopefully tonight's showdown
- 56:04Speaker 3: the Egos and the Chargers. I think there's some interesting routes,
- 56:08Speaker 3: and I've been liking these ego showdowns because I think
- 56:10Speaker 3: I got a pretty.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Good lens in on how to attack them.
- 56:13Speaker 3: And we'll see if it comes to fruition tonight, and
- 56:16Speaker 3: if not, there's always Week fifteen, sixteen seventeen, and then
- 56:19Speaker 3: the playoffs obviously as well. So no appreciate it and
- 56:23Speaker 3: overall good show, Yeah.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Great stuff, man, always good to be here with you.
- 56:26Speaker 1: Just a programming note for everybody as well. The Monday,
- 56:30Speaker 1: December twenty ninth, after Week seventeen, that's when we always
- 56:33Speaker 1: shut this one down, So we'll be going for the
- 56:36Speaker 1: next couple of weeks still after this and past the
- 56:38Speaker 1: holiday season. But just noting for most, just noting that
- 56:41Speaker 1: we're going to be done after the Week seventeen review
- 56:44Speaker 1: show that will be the last for the season. Week
- 56:46Speaker 1: eighteen is if there's ever a week to you know,
- 56:48Speaker 1: what can we learn from it? I guess, but you
- 56:50Speaker 1: know that's not really the best week for it, and
- 56:51Speaker 1: it's always gonna be some crazy stuff. They're almost like
- 56:53Speaker 1: a preseason week, but either way, I appreciate all the
- 56:55Speaker 1: support along the way. We'll be back today on this
- 56:58Speaker 1: channel hoop title and myself breaking down the Monday Night
- 57:01Speaker 1: Football Showdown title be trying to go back to back
- 57:04Speaker 1: our man Rio and him both got the shipper last
- 57:06Speaker 1: night for just over twenty thousand dollars, so that was
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