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- 0:00$124 trillion is transferring from one generation to the next. Right now, if we don't grow up around
- 0:06it and see that it's not just a billionaire issue, it's an US issue. Half of that money is in our
- 0:12hands and in our parents hands. If we don't take action around these resources, our share of the
- 0:17$62 trillion, we're going to lose it. And the baby boomers, maybe your parents are turning 80, and
- 0:23once they become incapacitated, once they can't make decisions, it's too late to be in the
- 0:28conversation. I'm Ellie Katz, and after graduating first in my law school class and working on tax
- 0:35transactions for Warren Buffett at Charlie Munger law firm, I realized that the world of estate
- 0:40planning was broken and I set out to fix it, and since then have trained thousands of lawyers who
- 0:46have served over 500,000 families, protecting over $25 billion of family wealth. And I'm
- 0:53going to bring everything to you right here, so you can learn the very same strategies that I've
- 0:57been teaching them and put them into place in your own life and in your own family, and step
- 1:02into your role as a family wealth steward. Welcome. $124 trillion is transferring from one generation
- 1:09to the next. Right now, if we don't grow up around it and see that it's not just a billionaire issue,
- 1:14it's an US issue. Half of that money is in our hands and in our parents hands, and it's time for
- 1:20us to step up so that we don't lose the resources that we have access to now, to build the thriving
- 1:26future that we all want. That's what this podcast is about. If we don't
- 1:33take action around these resources, our share of the $62 trillion, we're going to lose it. And the
- 1:39baby boomers. Maybe your parents are turning 80 this year, and once they become incapacitated,
- 1:46once they can't make decisions. It's too late to be in the conversation. And the conversation could
- 1:51take some time to happen. And your growing up process could take some time to happen. And so
- 1:57these conversations, they have to start before it's too late or we lose what's ours to care
- 2:03costs. To court costs. To confusion. To chaos. Something happens. It's too late. At that point, the
- 2:10resources are gone and your family is probably losing right now, somewhere between 10 and
- 2:17$100,000 a year. Overpaying in taxes that you don't need to be paying. But you are just because
- 2:22you don't know. You probably don't even think that this impacts you because
- 2:29you think I'm not rich, or my your parents might be saying to you, or you might be thinking about
- 2:34your parents. They're not rich. I'm not inheriting anything. They're not going to leave me anything.
- 2:39Well, I inherited $50,000 from my father at the right time, and it changed my life. So whether
- 2:45you're inheriting $50,000, $500,000, $5 million, these are a lot of resources.
- 2:52And you might think that you're not rich because you don't have millions of dollars in the bank.
- 2:58But the reality is, is that your resources can grow and they will grow over time. In fact, what I
- 3:05found is that most people with between 1 and $30 million don't think they're rich. It's money
- 3:10dysmorphia, and money dysmorphia is the distorted view that we have of our financial reality that
- 3:16causes us to sacrifice our nonrenewable resources, time, energy, attention, relationships, and health in
- 3:23service to money. Thinking we have to get more money. We have to get more money because we're not
- 3:26rich yet, when the reality is we could be taking care of what we already have right now and
- 3:32growing it. You may not be thinking about it because you think you're not rich. You think your
- 3:37parents are not rich, or maybe they are rich and they think, oh, you think they've got it taken care
- 3:41of, they've already got it handled, or their guy has it handled, or you're not going to really be
- 3:45able to get into conversation with them because they don't want to talk about it. But this is
- 3:49exactly how the wealth leaks out of the middle class. And we are the middle class, right? 1 to 30
- 3:55million in wealth, which, by the way, is rich. So let's start with that big issue with when
- 4:02we think we're not rich, we don't take care of what we have as if we're rich, and then we're just
- 4:07losing it. Paying more in taxes than we need to be paying, getting the wrong kind of insurance. The
- 4:13wrong type of insurance because we're just getting insurance sold to us instead of going out
- 4:17and buying what we actually need. Not having the right financial systems in place, worrying about
- 4:24how much we have, waking up in the middle of the night instead of having systems, rhythms, flow
- 4:28systems and structures to be looking at what we have. Getting stuck in conflict. Getting stuck in
- 4:33court. All because we don't think that we're rich. Even if we're inheriting $50,000. Certainly
- 4:40$500,000. Definitely $5 million. Right? That's rich. I inherited $50,000 from my
- 4:47dad when I was 30. It was a life changer for me to get $50,000 from my dad, to be able to
- 4:53invest in my business. Change the game. Now, if he had left that to me in a way where I had to go
- 5:00through a court process to get it. It wouldn't have changed my life in a positive way. It would
- 5:05have hurt my life. It would have cost me time, energy and attention that at that time when I had
- 5:10two little kids and a brand new business, I didn't have. And so if we don't take care of what we have,
- 5:16if we don't take it seriously, what we end up leaving is a huge burden, a huge mess. Instead of
- 5:22giving this huge gift to the people that we love. And so when we take it seriously, when we see that
- 5:28we already are rich, then we're able to grow our family wealth from one generation to the next. And
- 5:33this is when the conversation has to start. It can't start later. It has to start now. I
- 5:38discovered this thing that I call money dysmorphia, and when I discovered it, that term
- 5:42didn't exist. Now, some folks have taken that term and talk about it as if it's something other than
- 5:49what it is. So here's what money dysmorphia is. It's a distortion we have of our financial
- 5:54reality that causes us to sacrifice our nonrenewable resources individually. That's time,
- 6:01energy, attention, relationships and health. Planetary. It's our nonrenewable resources.
- 6:05Planetary. We sacrifice those resources and service to money. But money's infinitely renewable
- 6:12if we know how to use our nonrenewable resources. And the way that I discovered this was, well, first
- 6:18of all, when I started my career as a lawyer, I'm making $165,000 a year. And I still felt
- 6:25broke. That was very confusing to me because I had only ever been a waitress before. How could I feel
- 6:30broke making $165,000 a year? But I found that that feeling continued through building
- 6:37$2 million businesses. I still felt broke. I still felt that I didn't have enough money. I still felt
- 6:43that I wasn't rich, I still felt constantly worried about money, and I decided I would walk
- 6:48away from everything that I had created because I might as well just give up. I wasn't good at
- 6:53business. I was making all sorts of mistakes because I wasn't taking care of what I had,
- 6:58because I thought I wasn't rich enough. So I walked away from everything, and in the process of
- 7:04walking away from everything, I discovered no matter how much we have, we're never going to feel
- 7:09rich. We're always going to feel this underlying insecurity of not enough. One of the ways that
- 7:15money dysmorphia causes us to lose our resources is because we don't see what we have, right? And so,
- 7:21so many people would come in and meet with me for their estate planning. When I was a 1 to 1 estate
- 7:25planning lawyer, and they'd never looked at what they had and they were shocked, like, oh, I really
- 7:30actually have a lot. And as a result of that, you think, oh, I don't need estate planning. Well, if you
- 7:36don't need estate planning, what's going to happen is that when you become incapacitated, illness,
- 7:42accident, injury, something you don't expect is going to happen. Your family has no idea what you
- 7:48have, where it is, or in the event of your death, they can't get into your phone. Now what happens
- 7:54is your family is going to the court, and once you're in the court process. It's really bad. It is
- 8:01unnecessary expense. It takes a lot of time. There's likely going to be conflict in the family
- 8:07and the assets just end up lost. And worse than that, I would say, is all of the
- 8:14assets that go to pay for care costs for people who wouldn't have even wanted it. So, for
- 8:21example, I know that for myself, I do not want to be kept in a nursing home, kept alive not
- 8:27necessarily on a breathing machine, but being force fed to be kept alive when I don't even have
- 8:34any cognitive awareness at all. Most people would probably say the same thing. They also don't want
- 8:39to be kept alive, but because they didn't write it down, document it, make plans for it ahead of time.
- 8:45All of their family resources are spent keeping them alive, force feeding them and all of their
- 8:51resources going to the medical industrial complex that they never would have wanted to support.
- 8:57Assets are lost. There's $70 billion in state departments of unclaimed property across the US
- 9:02because somebody dies and nobody knows what they had, and those assets end up going to the state
- 9:07and not growing in the hands of their families. So this is just some of the ways that assets are
- 9:12lost from one generation to the next, and it can totally be avoided. I'm having this conversation
- 9:17with you so that you know that you can you can do something. You can take action. You don't have to
- 9:22bury your head in the sand. Or like my mom, she didn't know what to do when she had to invest her
- 9:29retirement account at school, for example. And so she asked one of the male teachers because she
- 9:34figured, well, he'll know what to do. I don't want you outsourcing anything to some guy because you
- 9:40think he's gonna know what to do when you need to know what to do and listen. I did the same thing
- 9:46myself when I first, um, was given a retirement account at my six figure attorney
- 9:52job. I was 28 years old. I didn't know what a 401 K was. And they gave me this piece of
- 9:59paper and they said, okay, tell us how you'd like us to invest it. I looked at the paper. We didn't
- 10:05have Google back then. I saw a bunch of letters on the paper. I was too ashamed and embarrassed to
- 10:12tell anybody. I didn't know what this was. And so I literally closed my eyes, put my finger down on
- 10:18the paper, and circled that one and handed the paper back to them. So that's what I call eyes
- 10:24squeezed shut decision making. We don't want to do that. We want to make eyes wide open decisions. And
- 10:31that's why I call my ecosystem eyes wide open. Collective is because we want to make decisions
- 10:35with our eyes wide open. I did not do this myself. And so what I want you to realize is that you
- 10:40have a huge opportunity here to start making eyes wide open decisions. Acknowledge what you don't
- 10:45know. It's totally okay, and start to get educated. The first thing that you can do is start
- 10:52to treat your personal affairs as if you had a family office. That seems like a big word, right?
- 10:57Family office. That's just for billionaires. Well, no, it can be for all of us. We can all treat our
- 11:02personal affairs as if we were the manager or the steward of our own family office. And it starts
- 11:09with just looking at what you have, understanding what do you have? What do you have in the bank?
- 11:15What do you have in retirement accounts? What do you have for insurance? How do you how are you
- 11:21filing your taxes or not filing your taxes? It's really just starts with an inventory of what you
- 11:27have, and then an inventory of what your parents have. And also looking beyond just the
- 11:33financial assets. So it's not just about what you have financially, it's also about what you can
- 11:38create. What talents do you have? What gifts do you have? What skills do you have? What can you offer
- 11:44to the community where you can give what you have and receive what you need? So starting to
- 11:49inventory that as well, and starting to see that what you have is not just the zeros and ones also
- 11:55looking at your credit score. All of us should be looking at our credit score on probably a weekly,
- 12:01if not monthly basis. Not because we want to feel bad about ourselves, but so we can
- 12:07improve it. Why do you want to improve your credit score so you can get credit? Credit is a resource
- 12:14for us to use. It's not something to be ashamed of using. It's something to use to be able to build
- 12:19something. It's the only reason to have a good credit score is to use credit. So that's part of
- 12:24your inventory is what is your credit score? How can you improve your credit score? How can you use
- 12:29credit in a really wise way to be able to make the investments that you want to make for the
- 12:34future? So I want you to see this as a rite of passage into adulthood. Right. We've lost our rites
- 12:39of passage. We've lost our initiations. But this specific experience of you stepping into your
- 12:44role as the one in your family is a rite of passage. It is an initiation that you can take
- 12:50yourself through so that when you're connecting with your parents or your adult kids, if you have
- 12:56adult kids or when you have adult kids. You're coming from a place of true adulthood around our
- 13:02collective resources, your collective resources, and your family. And what's going to happen as a
- 13:07result of that is you are going to feel more fulfilled than I imagine you've ever felt in your
- 13:12life. At least that's how it was for me when I spent years making more money achieving the next
- 13:19metric of success, hitting the next goal. The goalposts kept moving. And maybe you've heard that
- 13:23before, right? Or maybe you've had that experience yourself. Or like I hit the goal and then it moves
- 13:28and it's like everything is the next thing, the next thing. But what I found for myself is that
- 13:34when I really stood up around myself as a steward of my family wealth,
- 13:42it was the most fulfilling thing that I'd ever done. I finally felt like I made it. I finally felt
- 13:48like I made it when I could take care of my mom and make sure that she has a place to live for
- 13:53the rest of her life and not be worried about the burden of, oh my God, how am I going to take care
- 13:57of my mom? Kind of living in the back of my mind and know that I can take care of my family if
- 14:03anything happens, not because I have tons of money. At that time, I didn't have
- 14:10tons of money. What I had was clarity. What I had was knowing that I was a good steward of our
- 14:16collective resources. What I had was connection with my sister and our mom, so that we could treat
- 14:22all of our resources as family resources. It was the most fulfilling, transformational
- 14:29experience that I had, and I think it will be the same way for you as well. Whether you're feeling
- 14:33inspired, overwhelmed, or motivated, you're in the right place because it means that this topic is
- 14:39touching you and you know that this is the right conversation for you to be in at this time in
- 14:43your life. And I'm bringing you this work to give you the solutions, to give you the tools to take
- 14:48you behind the scenes into the conversations that maybe you otherwise wouldn't get to see, so that
- 14:53you can be in the right conversation so that you can be taking the right actions so that you can
- 14:58start to relax your nervous system around these topics that can be really anxiety producing or
- 15:05create avoidance or uncertainty or fear. You don't know what to do. And at the end of the day, you're
- 15:11going to be able to relax and know you're never going to be taken advantage of. You're never going
- 15:15to be ripped off, you're never going to make bad decisions. And if you do make bad decisions,
- 15:20they'll be learning experiences that you'll be able to share with others. Share with your parents.
- 15:24So I want you to like, follow, subscribe. And that way you're going to get notified of every episode
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- 15:35somebody that you love that needs to hear this as well. And if you share this with them, you can be
- 15:40in conversation with them about it and be having these really important and intimate conversations
- 15:45that you might not be having right now. So do that, and I'll look forward to seeing you in the next
- 15:50episode of the Great Wealth Transfer podcast.