Latest / #Faith4TodayPodcast / Episode 33 – Pools of Grace: Do You Want to Be Made Well?
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- 0:00Where we confuse the practice of our faith as a as an identifier
- 0:06of our holiness rather than a means by which God is making us
- 0:10holy. So the practice of our faith
- 0:13aren't a means by which we achieve something for God.
- 0:17Rather they're, they're an opportunity for God to grow as
- 0:20shape us, form us, change us, transform us and fill us.
- 0:25They're they are the avenue through which we experience the
- 0:28channel of God's grace to us. And welcome to another episode
- 0:38of the Faith for Today podcast. Today is episode 33.
- 0:42We're talking about Pools of Grace.
- 0:45Listen, it is great to be back with you.
- 0:47My name's Matthew, I'm your host today.
- 0:50And we're here with a fresh episode.
- 0:52We've, we've had a couple weeks off, somewhat unplanned to be
- 0:58honest. We went on a missions trip to
- 1:01Guatemala and I intended to come back and get a recording in, but
- 1:05when I got back, I was kind of sick.
- 1:07So I kind of took an extra week off.
- 1:11And so man, today we're going to answer some questions from the
- 1:15last three Sunday messages that we've had where we cover John
- 1:19chapter 3-4 and five. But the primary element of our
- 1:23recap and our bonus content is going to come from our most
- 1:27recent message on August 3rd, where we talked about pools of
- 1:32grace out of John Chapter 5. Listen on the Faith for Today
- 1:37podcast. We want to help you have faith
- 1:39for today, inspired through the word on Sunday, but integrating
- 1:44the truths to your life even on a Thursday so that we're walking
- 1:48out our loyalty to Jesus. So let's get into a recap.
- 1:55Today. We're looking at John chapter 5
- 1:57specifically, and a sermon that we called Pools of Grace.
- 2:01We're diving into the third sign recorded in the Gospel of John.
- 2:05It's where Jesus healed a man who had been lame and sick for
- 2:0938 years. And the story at the Pool of
- 2:12Bethesda, we're reminded that the miracles Jesus performed
- 2:16weren't just about physical healing.
- 2:18They were also signs pointing to His divine deity and identity as
- 2:24the Son of God. Jesus asks A piercing question
- 2:27to this man. Do you want to be made well?
- 2:32The same question echoes into our lives today.
- 2:35Wholeness and transformation aren't forced on us though.
- 2:39Through the gentleness of the Holy Spirit, we're invited into
- 2:43a grace filled process of becoming fully alive, reordering
- 2:47our identity and values around Jesus instead of orienting our
- 2:52values and our life and our identity from the world system.
- 2:57In this specific message, we're going to explore more how grace
- 3:02doesn't just cancel out practice, it actually empowers
- 3:06our spiritual practice. In fact, the tension between
- 3:09Sabbath law and Jesus healing reveal that true transformation
- 3:13isn't earned by works, but it is experienced through them.
- 3:18We don't practice our faith to gain merit, rather we practice
- 3:22in order to position ourselves to receive the grace we so
- 3:25desperately need. Like the man at the pool, we're
- 3:28often more conditioned to kind of maybe wait passively than to
- 3:32respond actively to Jesus invitation.
- 3:36But he is still asking us, do you want to be made well?
- 3:40As we lean into practices of spiritual formation and we walk
- 3:44in step with the Spirit, we want to step into a deeply formed
- 3:47life that reflects not only the healing and wholeness, but also
- 3:52the very presence and power of Christ becoming the radiance of
- 3:56Christ in the world all around us.
- 4:00All right, let's get to a little bonus content.
- 4:02Listen, the the man that was healed at the pool, 38 years
- 4:06sick. He was about to experience a
- 4:09radical change in his life. In fact, think about this.
- 4:14This man had only really known begging, begging for alms, that
- 4:19the only way he was surviving was the generosity of others
- 4:23that he or called on, that he asked for.
- 4:27So this, his whole life, his whole profession if you will,
- 4:31was about to change. He was now going to have to face
- 4:34a new set of insecurities, unknowns, no longer being able
- 4:39to be identified by his ailment, losing his source of income as
- 4:46he used to beg and ask for alms. Now this man was at faced with a
- 4:49new identity, a better identity. But it was noon and the less and
- 4:54and this change in his life actually led to unknowns and
- 4:58uncertainties. And, and often I think when we
- 5:01in our lives are experiencing change, transition, new
- 5:05circumstances arise, ailments in our lives, just different
- 5:09seasons or stages of life. We're faced with new
- 5:12complexities. We're faith, we we often are
- 5:15confronting our own insecurities that maybe we've been able to
- 5:18compensate for for a long time, But but our identity gets shaken
- 5:23often times when our circumstances or our situation
- 5:27changes. And for this man, it was no
- 5:29different. Here he was.
- 5:30He was a man 38 years laying in a similar spot.
- 5:35New context, new place, new people.
- 5:37Anytime there's a change like that in our lives, it it can
- 5:41create unknowns. I I know many people who have
- 5:43come to know Jesus. They've had an encounter with
- 5:46the grace of the Spirit and man that they're forced with.
- 5:49Like now I don't have the same friends that I used to have.
- 5:53I don't know how to act. I've seen some recent Tik Toks
- 5:59where people who are trendy transitioning from dressing kind
- 6:08of in the opposite sex or having self identified as a female,
- 6:13even though there were a biological male at birth.
- 6:16And those kinds of things where, where they're finding Jesus and
- 6:19having to walk out a new identity, a new life as as God
- 6:25had intended, how they were born and created to be.
- 6:27And, and here they are having to walk out new, the newness of
- 6:32Christ and the walk out. And and while it's a beautiful
- 6:36thing and a wonderful thing, it certainly still comes with
- 6:39insecurity, certainly comes with new set of challenges.
- 6:42And when Jesus asked this man, do you want to be made?
- 6:45Well, I think it's packed within it.
- 6:47Just this whole idea of do you really want to see your life
- 6:51altered and changed? Do you really want to find new
- 6:54friends? Do you really want to find a new
- 6:56way of living? Like like your livelihood is now
- 7:00going to be changed? Like you don't just get to sit
- 7:02and beg. There's not a reason for you to
- 7:03sit and beg anymore. So now he's got to find new
- 7:06skills and find a job and find a place to live.
- 7:09And like a whole new set of circumstances all of a sudden
- 7:12are created. And whether people experience
- 7:14this because of job loss, maybe people experience this because
- 7:17they, they move to a new community or a new state or, or
- 7:21maybe something radical, God gets a hold of their heart in a
- 7:24radical way. And their old life of sin, their
- 7:27old way of living, their old relationships, men, they're
- 7:31called out of those things into a whole new set of
- 7:34circumstances. And here they are having to
- 7:35navigate all of that. That can be a little
- 7:39intimidating to say the least. And our identity is often
- 7:44wrapped up in our circumstance. It's often wrapped up in our
- 7:48context. And those things are forming and
- 7:51shaping who we often are. Now I have on many occasions in
- 7:57the last year talked about 3 components to living a life of
- 8:03purpose. 3 components, if you will, that really play into
- 8:08every human heart. Things like identity calling and
- 8:13assignment. These three kind of components
- 8:15make up a life that is fulfilled, a life full of
- 8:20purpose. And it's interesting because
- 8:23often we, we confuse, use the order of these things we we
- 8:27think. In other words, let me say it
- 8:30correctly, your identity shaped by Christ informs your calling,
- 8:36which leads you to specific assignments.
- 8:39But often times what we do is we flip that around.
- 8:43We feel like we have a certain assignment that is now Our
- 8:47Calling and Our Calling becomes our identity.
- 8:52And so we wrap up our identity because of our assignment or the
- 8:56context that we live along with Our Calling and and those things
- 9:00ought not be the case. In fact, our identity is shaped
- 9:05and formed by Christ, who He says He is, who we are redeemed
- 9:08based on the truth, our life and the truth of how He made us and
- 9:11who He's created us. That informs Our Calling and
- 9:15that calling is is universal to every believer.
- 9:19We are ambassadors who represent Christ radiance in our world.
- 9:23That is the calling of every believer, our identity, shaped
- 9:29by God's voice, shaped and informed by the Father,
- 9:32impressed on us as sons and daughters of royal priesthood,
- 9:36which is Our Calling to be an ambassador, to represent him, to
- 9:41minister and to be agents of reconciliation in our world.
- 9:47Well, then that shows up in our assignments or in our context.
- 9:53And our context or our assignment is where we live out
- 9:56Our Calling as sons and daughters of God as we live out
- 10:02our identity. So our identity informs what Our
- 10:06Calling is, and Our Calling is what we bring into what we do in
- 10:11this world. Our assignment and our
- 10:12assignment is best understood as temporary.
- 10:16You are not going to be in this current season of assignment
- 10:20forever. There will come a day when I
- 10:23stop being senior pastor. There will come a day when I
- 10:27stop being the the role of parent drastically changes in my
- 10:35life. There there's going to make
- 10:36coming a day when you stop being a teacher, when you stop driving
- 10:40a truck, when when you stop being a banker, when you stop
- 10:46being a business owner, that there there's going to be a
- 10:49transition season. And often in those transitions
- 10:54of life, we lose a sense of identity simply because our
- 10:59identity is wrapped up in our assignment rather than being
- 11:03shaped by the voice of God in our life.
- 11:06So we need our identity first and foremost shaped by God's
- 11:10voice. As sons and daughters in royal
- 11:12priesthood, Our Calling is universal.
- 11:15To be an ambassador or represent Christ.
- 11:16That's the large purpose for our life.
- 11:19But our assignment is the place in which we fulfill that calling
- 11:23as sons and daughters of God. And in your context, it may
- 11:27change, but your assignment is going to be where your
- 11:30personality, your skill, your gifting, your experience, your
- 11:34passion, and the opportunities present themselves and they all
- 11:39kind of intersect. That becomes your assignment.
- 11:41Your assignment may change. It may change sooner than what
- 11:44you think, but when your assignment changes, that doesn't
- 11:47change your identity and it doesn't change your calling.
- 11:50It just changes the context where you live out your calling
- 11:55and where you show up in your identity as a son and daughter
- 11:59of God. You know, our identity formation
- 12:03is often skewed without Jesus. In fact, I think our identity is
- 12:09something that we don't discover on our own.
- 12:12I think identity is best bestowed or imparted to us by
- 12:17others, especially by others like our Father.
- 12:22The voice of a father has a huge role in shaping our identity,
- 12:27calling out the purposes of God, calling out the identity
- 12:31identity of God, calling out who God has made us to be.
- 12:34It's a voice that matters. And that's how Jesus had his
- 12:38identity shaped, which through the voice and the will of the
- 12:41Father. We, we, we, we see it multiple
- 12:44times in Scripture. Heaven's open.
- 12:46This is my son, beloved. In him, I am well pleased like
- 12:51that is shaping some of the identity, the the assurance our
- 12:55identity is who we are seen and known to be.
- 12:58And that is something that others help speak into us to
- 13:01help shape, help call out, help bestow on us.
- 13:05And you know, it's probably not until the age of enlightenment
- 13:09where we really started trying to identify our own identity, if
- 13:15you will. And I think we've got to get
- 13:17back to this understanding of often identity of who we are is
- 13:22shaped in us. We're given a name.
- 13:25We, we, we are given a gender at birth.
- 13:28And I'm not trying to open up that can of worms necessarily,
- 13:31but man, we're we're identity has spoken over us all through
- 13:35scripture. You see a father speaking
- 13:38blessing over his children, blessing them, calling them
- 13:41something, naming them something.
- 13:44And I think that's a, a proper biblical framework for bestowing
- 13:49and helping those things be seen and experienced in in our lives.
- 13:53We all have people who have been influential in our lives that
- 13:57have helped shape who we are. That's what I'm talking about.
- 14:02That's what this looks like. And I think the voice of God and
- 14:05the truth that he speaks to us is is over.
- 14:10Part of our gifting does help illuminate our identity.
- 14:14I'm not my sole identity isn't wrapped up in a gifting, but it
- 14:19does help former or speak into many things like the
- 14:24uniquenesses of who we uniquenesses of who who we are.
- 14:30We, we talk about this idea of how formation occurs in our
- 14:34life, that Jesus lives in your heart, but grandpa lives in your
- 14:37bones. That there are certain patterns
- 14:39and ways of living that we've adopted and had ingrained into
- 14:43us and are deeply recessed and rooted in who we are simply
- 14:47because our family of, of origin and, and Jesus redeems and sets
- 14:52us free. And Jesus saves us through the
- 14:55work of a spirit in our lives, regenerating and giving us a new
- 14:58heart and a new spirit, making us born again.
- 15:01But we still have this physical reality that we're living out
- 15:06and, and that is been deeply ingrained in us, our DNA.
- 15:10It's shaped in us. There's certain patterns of
- 15:12behavior, patterns of living that often times aren't holy,
- 15:16aren't of God, and are broken at best.
- 15:19And those are the things God wants to heal, shape and reform
- 15:23in us through the renewing of our of our minds.
- 15:26You know, there are mentalities that are shaped communally and
- 15:29there are mentalities and value systems shaped really based on
- 15:33location of where we grow up, certain values we grow up with
- 15:37because of the environment we are in.
- 15:41Whether you realize it or not, we are all shaped by our
- 15:45environment. We are all being shaped by our
- 15:48culture. The question isn't are you being
- 15:51formed? The question is who or what is
- 15:55forming you? Who are What is shaping your
- 16:00mind? Who or what is shaping your
- 16:02identity? Who or what is shaping your
- 16:04pattern of living? You are already being conformed.
- 16:09We want to be transformed into the renewing of our mind or by
- 16:13the renewing of our minds so that we can then discern and
- 16:17live out God's good, pleasing and perfect will in our lives
- 16:20rather than living out the script of the values of the
- 16:24worldly system that the secularism of our day that is
- 16:29already deeply ingrained in who we are.
- 16:32And, and we're shaped by our culture.
- 16:34We're shaped by the, the political system with which
- 16:37we're living in. We are shaped by the people that
- 16:41are around us. We are shaped by our habits and
- 16:44our practices and our patterns of living.
- 16:48You know, during the, the message I used the illustration
- 16:50of or talked about how we have a different word.
- 16:54We use the word grace, but the word grace we use in a lot of
- 16:58different ways. Like we say grace, but we really
- 17:00need need to say mercy, see, or we say grace, but we really mean
- 17:04forgiveness or we say, would you say grace?
- 17:07And what we really mean is will you pray for or bless the food?
- 17:10And I use that illustration that we meant if you ever ask me to
- 17:13your house and you say, hey, pastor, will you say grace for
- 17:16the food? I'm just going to just just belt
- 17:19out grace. And then that's what I'm going
- 17:22to do because that's what you asked me to do.
- 17:24You didn't ask me to pray for the food.
- 17:25You asked me to say grace. So I going to say grace and we
- 17:29had some fun with it in the message and it was kind of a a
- 17:31moment of levity more than a serious moment.
- 17:35But I two different people text me clips from movies where
- 17:40people are yelling grace either at a person or trying to get
- 17:45them to say grace for the meal. And both of them, that they're
- 17:51like, this is what came to my mind when you said that, which I
- 17:55thought was so poignant to the reality that we are culturally
- 18:00formed and shaped like I say the word grace and immediately what
- 18:04pops into our mind is a clip from a movie.
- 18:06Sometimes people say things or do things and something that
- 18:09automatically shows up in your mind is a song lyric or a funny
- 18:14memory or a movie clip. What?
- 18:16Why is that? Well, because we've been shaped
- 18:19and impressed upon by culture, by things around us, we are
- 18:24being impressed and influenced. And so we are indeed being
- 18:29formed and conditioned to a perspective based on our
- 18:33culture. We are already deeply formed.
- 18:38But is that formation truly redemptive?
- 18:42That's the question. And Romans comes Paul saying
- 18:46you've got to no longer be conformed to this age, to the
- 18:50secularism in which you are born into.
- 18:52No, no, But you need to be transformed by the renewing of
- 18:56your mind so that you may discern what is the good,
- 18:59pleasing and perfect will of God.
- 19:01That that we have a formation and identity formation, a
- 19:07reality of who we are. And it is skewed already One
- 19:10Direction towards secularism and we must have it redemptively
- 19:16formed in us so that we are transformed to the image and
- 19:21nature and likeness of Christ. That requires great
- 19:24intentionality, the very practices of our faith.
- 19:28We said in the message, help us live out the words of Jesus when
- 19:32he warns the the man later on in the passage, don't go back to
- 19:37sinning or something else worse may come on you.
- 19:42In other words, the deeply formed life is not going to be
- 19:46possible without an intentional reordering of our lives.
- 19:53In other words, here you are, you've been healed.
- 19:55This lame man now can walk and Jesus is warning him.
- 19:59Don't go to a life of sin like intentionally reorder your life
- 20:07in a new way, under a new paradigm, under a new truth.
- 20:12Otherwise, you're going to go back into that and it's going to
- 20:15be worse than it was before. And I shared in one of the
- 20:20services how how often I see this.
- 20:24People find themselves in crisis and they turn to God sincerely
- 20:30and out of desperation they turn to God.
- 20:33And as life begins to improve, as they start to experiencing
- 20:36the flourishing life, I've got the pressure of the situation
- 20:40that was negative seems to be alleviated.
- 20:43And because they have not really created new grooves of living
- 20:49new pattern of living, they they easily drift back into old ways
- 20:55of living and they easy to compromise what once was in the
- 20:59moment of crisis. It's non negotiable.
- 21:01We're seeking God. We're going to get in the Bible
- 21:02every day. It's a non negotiable.
- 21:04We're going to be at church. Doesn't matter.
- 21:06We're reordering our lives, but it does not continue to be a
- 21:10pattern of life. It was a temporary thing to get
- 21:13out of a of a problem in their life, and they find themselves
- 21:18back into the addiction, back into trouble.
- 21:23Their marriage falls back into troubled waters, not because
- 21:27they weren't sincere, not because God wasn't really
- 21:30helping to do them, but because they never closed the gaps in
- 21:35their life and the enemy gained access into their life.
- 21:40I don't think Jesus was saying, hey buddy, you were sick because
- 21:44you were a Sinner, therefore don't go back to this life of
- 21:48sin, blah, blah blah. I think what Jesus was saying
- 21:51was giving him a warning, saying, hey, listen, don't let
- 21:55the enemy have any more room in your life. close the door on it.
- 22:00Intentionally reorder your life. Listen, the life of following
- 22:04Jesus is a life that is not where you don't just add in a
- 22:09little Jesus. We're called to reorder our
- 22:12lives to follow Him. If following Jesus requires us
- 22:16renouncing all other priorities in our life so that we can
- 22:21follow His priorities in our life, it requires us letting go,
- 22:27letting laying aside every weight and sense so that we
- 22:32could walk and run after Him like the cost of following
- 22:36Jesus. There is one, and that's the
- 22:38invitation of Jesus all through scripture.
- 22:40It wasn't come and be forgiven. It wasn't come and let me wash
- 22:44away your sins. The invitation of Jesus over and
- 22:47over and over again. And scripture was come and die.
- 22:49Deny yourself, take up your cross and follow after.
- 22:52Be my apprentice, be my disciple.
- 22:55And the practices of our faith help us intentionally reorder
- 23:01our lives so that we don't go back to the old ways.
- 23:07We don't go back to darkness. We don't go back to empty wells
- 23:12and cisterns that are toxic and poisonous.
- 23:15We don't go back because we don't want to see the enemy come
- 23:20in more and more. In fact, Jesus tells another
- 23:24parable of what good does it do if you bind the strong man, if
- 23:29you clean out the house and you rebuke the enemy, you get him
- 23:33out of there and the enemy comes back with seven of his friends
- 23:36and he finds, finds the house swept and kept in order.
- 23:41But you never really put new locks on the door.
- 23:44You never really filled the house with anything.
- 23:47In other words, the whatever is empty will be filled.
- 23:51You can have it filled with the life of God, or you can have it
- 23:55filled with the life of the flesh.
- 23:57You can walk in the ways of God, or you can walk in the ways of
- 24:01the enemy. It takes an intentional
- 24:03reordering of our life and God gives us His Holy Spirit to
- 24:07empower us to reorder our lives according to the priority and
- 24:11the value system of heaven. In the book, The Deeply Formed
- 24:14Life by Pastor Rich Velottis, he says this towards the end of the
- 24:20book. He says, I want to say this
- 24:22about the he's talking about the practices of our faith.
- 24:25He says, first know this, the practices of our faith do not
- 24:30save us or make God love us more.
- 24:32And I would say Amen, That is so true.
- 24:35We are saved by God's free and faithful love in Christ.
- 24:40God's love is steadfast, meaning there is nothing we can do to
- 24:43make him love us more, and there's nothing we can do to
- 24:45make him love us less. Rather, these practices are
- 24:49meant to help us receive and express God's love in deeply
- 24:54formed ways. In other words, the practices of
- 24:57our faith, the spiritual practices that we do are an
- 25:01intentional reordering of our lives to move in the direction
- 25:04of God, to walk in relationship with God again.
- 25:08When you fall in love with your spouse, there are many things in
- 25:12your life that become reordered and you reorder them on purpose.
- 25:16Priorities change, habits shift and move.
- 25:20Why? Because you are in love and are
- 25:23receiving love and you are willing to continue to do that,
- 25:26so that love be because that love is so being formed and made
- 25:31alive inside of you. Same is true that relationship
- 25:33with God, these practices of our faith, reading the scriptures,
- 25:38silence and solitude, fasting, prayer, worship, gathering with
- 25:42the people of God, being generous, opening our home in
- 25:45hospitality, walking in obedience, loving our and these
- 25:50practices of our faith, the way of Jesus that we want to live
- 25:53out. These are not meant to earn love
- 25:57or be a merit of God's grace. Rather they are a means, an Ave.
- 26:03They are meant to help us experience, express and be
- 26:08formed by the love of God, the presence of the Spirit and the
- 26:11work of Christ in our lives. So they are not a means to an
- 26:16end that they they, nor are they an end to themselves.
- 26:21They are simply a conduit, the avenue, the way in which we get
- 26:26to experience and encounter the love of guys.
- 26:28That's what we talked about with works and grace.
- 26:31Like, like works and grace aren't incompatible with each
- 26:35other. Works of the law, as Paul talked
- 26:38about, that's not how the Spirit comes.
- 26:41And the Pharisees were having this, this struggle with the
- 26:46morality and legality. They were having this tension
- 26:49between God doing something grace and merciful in the midst
- 26:54of not abiding by the Sabbath. Like how is this possible?
- 26:57And where we confuse the practice of our faith as a as an
- 27:03identifier of our holiness rather than a means by which God
- 27:08is making us holy. So the practice of our faith
- 27:11aren't a means by which we achieve something for God.
- 27:15Rather, they're, they're an opportunity for God to grow as
- 27:19shape us, form us, change us, transform us and fill us.
- 27:23They're they are the avenue through which we experienced the
- 27:26channel of God's grace to us. And then it says this in the
- 27:31book. It says the practices have
- 27:33personal and communal elements to them.
- 27:36Some practices don't require the involvement of other people, but
- 27:40each practice is strengthened by the presence of others on the
- 27:44journey. And this is kind of where I want
- 27:46to just kind of wrap up is the man at the pool of Bethesda.
- 27:51He had no friends. No one was there to help him
- 27:54along in his journey. And I believe in our lives as we
- 27:59come to Christ and we begin to practice our faith, walking with
- 28:03God, living like God, becoming more like the radiance of Christ
- 28:06in our lives. It's a work of the Spirit in us
- 28:09that occurs and, and, and, and, and is something we experience
- 28:14as we walk in these practices. You can definitely read the
- 28:17Bible on your own 100%. However, there is something
- 28:21profound and strengthening that happens when you study the
- 28:25scripture with others. You absolutely can pray on your
- 28:29own, but when you gather and pray with other believers, the
- 28:34communal element adds a a point of strength to the practice in
- 28:39the formation. You could, I mean you could have
- 28:45a meal all by yourself, but something happens differently
- 28:49when you share that meal with other people.
- 28:52So. So while there are personal
- 28:55elements of our faith, they are by and large strengthened and
- 29:01more potent when we practice them in community or in a
- 29:05communal element with other people.
- 29:08The the life of following Jesus cannot really be done by your
- 29:12own. It's meant to be done with
- 29:15others, strengthened with others.
- 29:17And we are deeply formed, not just on our own, but with
- 29:22others. And that's a powerful element
- 29:24for all of us to lean into. In other words, if you find
- 29:28yourself having been touched by God's grace, he's changing your
- 29:31life, and you don't want to go back to your old ways, get
- 29:36around other people who have intentionally reordered their
- 29:40life around Jesus and hang with them.
- 29:45And the strength of that together will move you in other
- 29:50directions. And I can't tell you the number
- 29:52of times I have seen again and again and again, Not only have
- 29:55people encountered Jesus, but because they didn't reorder
- 29:59their lives, they fell away. When people started isolating,
- 30:05they began to fall away too. Those are the two things that I
- 30:09have seen again and again that have caused people to not heed
- 30:13the warning of Jesus. Don't go back that way or
- 30:16something worse will happen. Something worse will happen in
- 30:19your heart. Something worse is going to
- 30:21you're going to experience profoundly in your life that
- 30:24warning. I've seen so many people walk
- 30:28right into that, that trap of the enemy because they didn't
- 30:31reorder their lives and they didn't reorder their lives with
- 30:35other people and they isolated instead of lived in community
- 30:39with others. So don't do that.
- 30:41Reorder it. Practice in your faith and be
- 30:44formed in the ways of Jesus and do it with other people.
- 30:50Alright, let's get to some question and response.
- 30:52There are several questions we're going to look at today
- 30:55from several weeks now and I'm do my best to answer them, give
- 30:59some context for them and then go, go from there.
- 31:03Alright, here's here's the first question.
- 31:05How is the Kingdom of heaven displayed in the earth?
- 31:08This comes back from a couple weeks ago where we talked about
- 31:11you can't see the Kingdom unless you were born of the spirit.
- 31:15The question is how? How do you even see the Kingdom
- 31:17of heaven on on the earth? So the Bible, I think it's in
- 31:21Romans, Paul says the Kingdom is not eating and drinking, but
- 31:27rather the Kingdom of God is righteousness, peace and joy in
- 31:31the Holy Spirit says the Kingdom of heaven, I believe is breaking
- 31:36in all around us. I think the Kingdom is seen when
- 31:40we work for restoration, when forgiveness is is encountered,
- 31:44when healing are seen when wholeness of our soul, when we
- 31:50are being made whole inside and out.
- 31:52I think that's the Kingdom of heaven breaking into our earth.
- 31:55The Kingdom is the life of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus
- 32:00accurately embodied. So when we accurately embody the
- 32:04life and the teachings of Jesus, well, I think the Kingdom is
- 32:08breaking in because he modeled the Kingdom life and the Kingdom
- 32:12perspective all around us or, or that's what he did.
- 32:16And so when we do that, man, the Kingdom of Heaven is is breaking
- 32:20in. I think the Kingdom of Heaven is
- 32:24the embodiment of the Sermon on the Mount.
- 32:27The Sermon on the Mount was like the new law that he was giving
- 32:32for the new covenant. There's so many parallels on the
- 32:36Sermon on the Mount. Jesus goes up on the mountain
- 32:38just like Moses went up on the mountain.
- 32:40Jesus came and gave them new commands.
- 32:43Moses sat on the mountain roading on the tablets, bringing
- 32:47down new commands to the people. Like, like there's so many
- 32:51parallels of what Jesus was doing with the Sermon on the
- 32:53Mount that are just profound. And I think it's important that
- 32:58the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of heaven that Jesus pronounced
- 33:01is here and now is breaking in. Now Jesus demonstrated and lived
- 33:07those ways. But the teaching on the Sermon
- 33:09on the Mount, when we enact those, when we live those, when
- 33:13we embody those, we're bringing faith to life.
- 33:15We're bringing the Kingdom to life to bear.
- 33:18And so we become representatives of the Kingdom.
- 33:23If people want to know what the Kingdom of heaven is like, they
- 33:27should be able to look at the life of a follower of Jesus and
- 33:31be like, wow, that that feels like heaven on earth.
- 33:35Like they're kind and they're patient and they're joyful.
- 33:37When we're living with the fruit of the Spirit, people are able
- 33:40to taste the Kingdom and see that the Kingdom of heaven is
- 33:43good. This is what we're meant to do,
- 33:45to work towards those things, righteousness, peace and joy.
- 33:49And so how is the Kingdom of heaven displayed in the earth?
- 33:52Well, primarily it's displayed through the people of God, the
- 33:55ambassadors and representatives of the Kingdom of God.
- 33:59Those who bear the King's name ought to bear the Kingdom with
- 34:05them wherever, wherever they go. Here's the next question.
- 34:09How do I walk in a curse free life?
- 34:12We we talked in John 3 about those who believe in Jesus are
- 34:20blessed, but those who don't believe in Jesus remain cursed.
- 34:25Jesus talks about this explicitly in John 3.
- 34:28And so we talked about how everything God created, he
- 34:31blessed and when sin came in, it was covered by a curse.
- 34:36And then when Jesus died and we put our faith in him, our
- 34:40allegiance goes to King Jesus will he lifts the curse from us,
- 34:44allowing the blessing to now freely flow.
- 34:48So how do we walk in a curse free life on?
- 34:52I want to be really clear. The world is still under a curse
- 34:57because Christ has not fully restored, bored, or renewed all
- 35:05of the earth. So there are things in our
- 35:08natural world that do not look blessed, but look more cursed.
- 35:14And the earth itself, Roman says, is groaning for the day
- 35:21when God fully is revealed. We're beginning that process
- 35:25now. We're beginning the work of
- 35:27renewal on the earth now through the Spirit empowering us as his
- 35:32agents of reconciliation. So there are elements of our
- 35:38life that, let me say it this way, I'm not so sure that it's
- 35:48possible for a life on this earth to live never getting
- 35:52sick, never to being without, without, with everything always
- 35:57being up and to the right, like getting better, getting better,
- 36:00getting better, getting better. I think that we're going to
- 36:02experience setbacks in this life like they're just broken
- 36:05realities of our world. It doesn't mean that our
- 36:09salvation is broken or what God has done is insufficient being
- 36:14worked out in our midst. And there is brokenness all
- 36:17around. And sometimes that brokenness
- 36:20gets on the children of God and the people of God.
- 36:24At the end of the day, as an individual, my life doesn't need
- 36:30to be cursed. I want to walk in a blessed
- 36:33life. Blessed is the man who walks not
- 36:35in the council of the ungodly, nor stands in the seat of the
- 36:38sinful. Jesus says it's blessed are the
- 36:41poor. The Sermon on the Mount, right?
- 36:43He's giving us a list of what the blessed life looks like.
- 36:47Blessed happy fortune is the man.
- 36:49Blessed are the poor. Best are the meek.
- 36:51But, but, but blessed are those who the hunger and thirst for
- 36:54righteousness. Well, those are the antithesis
- 36:56of what does a cursed life look like.
- 36:58Jesus is kind of giving a paradoxical understanding of a
- 37:02blessed life versus a cursed life.
- 37:04A life under the curse of Satan, under the curse of sin.
- 37:08Well, we aren't under that curse.
- 37:10We aren't slaves to sin anymore. I think a lot of it starts with
- 37:13repentance and renouncing all ways of living.
- 37:16We we no longer that's kind of what it means to come to Jesus,
- 37:19to repent, to turn to him. We're we're announcing things in
- 37:23our life that we used to give prominence, but we don't give
- 37:26prominence anymore. We used to, you know, worship
- 37:30greed, but we're going to worship God instead, right?
- 37:33Like this, This is where it starts.
- 37:35It's choosing, I think also like, you know, kind of in our
- 37:38lives, kind of moving a life more of blessing where blessing
- 37:43is expanding in our life rather than cursing, expanding in our
- 37:46life. If I can use that kind of word
- 37:48picture for a second, I think it's choosing not to speak
- 37:51curses like not slandering, not gossiping, not being, not not
- 37:55using backbiting things. Let's not speak cursing with our
- 38:00our words. I think choosing to walk in love
- 38:04helps spread the life of God and the blessing of God.
- 38:07According to First Corinthians 13, choosing to walk in the
- 38:10Spirit and not walk in the flesh allows me to reap the benefit of
- 38:15the presence and the blessing of God rather than the curses of
- 38:18our world. In fact, Galatians is really
- 38:20clear. If you walk in the flesh, here's
- 38:22what you're going to find, and it's all sorts of chaotic curses
- 38:26of brokenness. But if we walk in the spirit, we
- 38:30experience something different, righteousness.
- 38:32We experience love and joy and peace and kindness and
- 38:35faithfulness and patience and good.
- 38:37There's all these things, these benefits, these blessing of
- 38:43walking in the spirit versus walking in the flesh, which
- 38:45creates more chaos and cursed living.
- 38:49They remaining in Christ and not living as a slave to sin is a
- 38:53key part of of that as well. So how do I walk in a curse free
- 38:59life? Well, I don't know that that by
- 39:01curse free we get to mean perfect and we definitely don't
- 39:04mean without brokenness or without failure.
- 39:06But if you're walking under what God has blessed, no man can
- 39:12curse because if God is for you there is nothing that can be
- 39:16against you. It doesn't mean weapons aren't
- 39:19formed, it just that weapons aren't formed and going to
- 39:23prosper in its entirety. And by prosper meaning destroy
- 39:28us or eradicate us from the family of of God.
- 39:33How do I walk in a curse free life?
- 39:35I I I think we walk in the the beauty and the abundance and the
- 39:40blessing of who God is his joy, his delight, his love, his
- 39:46forgiveness in that way. Again, that doesn't mean that
- 39:50life is always up and to the right.
- 39:51It doesn't mean a life without suffering.
- 39:56Those things exist because the world is still under the curse,
- 39:59because Christ has not come to renew all things in this earth.
- 40:04He has the right to, He's paid the price for it.
- 40:08It just has not yet fully come. So we live in what theologians
- 40:12call the now, but not yet. So there are some things we
- 40:16experience now and some things that we experience not yet.
- 40:21And so there is that tension that we live in, but.
- 40:24Choosing to not speak the language of curse, slander,
- 40:28gossip, backbiting, choosing to walk in love, choosing to walk
- 40:33in the Spirit, not walking in the flesh.
- 40:36I think those are the things that allow the life and the
- 40:39flourishing like of Christ to continue to grow in us and we
- 40:43see the blessing as opposed to the product of sinfulness in our
- 40:49life. Here's the next question.
- 40:52It says. Is 1/2 and half Christian just
- 40:55as miserable as an unbeliever? We were talking a little bit
- 40:58about living wholehearted in this particular message, and so
- 41:04is the question like, is 1/2 hearted Christian just as
- 41:07miserable as an unbeliever? Here's what I'm going to say.
- 41:11You know, again, the Bible really doesn't give this
- 41:13category necessarily to where we are are like we're half saved or
- 41:22we're half unsaved. Like it's it's not really a real
- 41:25category, but I understand what we're saying.
- 41:28And so here's what I would say. I actually think that kind of a
- 41:33person is worse off than an unbeliever.
- 41:35Here's why, because they're living partially deceived.
- 41:41Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, we did all of these
- 41:44things in your name and I will say depart from me.
- 41:48I never knew you to think you know God and God knows you in
- 41:53that relationship, but you don't really have that relationship.
- 41:57You're living deceived. And so living deceived is really
- 42:01dangerous. And so I would say it's more
- 42:05dangerous. It's going to feel more
- 42:07disheartening and disappointing. Unbelievers.
- 42:10They pretty much know they're like bound.
- 42:13They're they're, they've rejected God, great.
- 42:16But people who think they're in, but they're not, that's a
- 42:20dangerous thing. And those are some of the
- 42:23warnings the New Testament gives us.
- 42:26Those are some of the things Jesus has to say.
- 42:29I think well intended people, even the Pharisees thought they
- 42:33were doing and I think in their hearts sincerely wanted to honor
- 42:38God and keep God first and bring the nation to God, but but they
- 42:44missed God in the process. There was some deception.
- 42:48There was a the, the, the, the yeast of the Phariseed had
- 42:52gotten into their hearts and brought some corruption.
- 42:57And that that can be dangerous because it's hard to see those
- 43:00things. You can't see that in yourself.
- 43:03And unless the Holy Spirit convicts us and we repent, we
- 43:07are living deceived. That's that's a dangerous thing.
- 43:12James talks about looking in the mirror, but then forgetting
- 43:16hearing the word but not doing it.
- 43:17We deceive ourselves and I think it's miserable to live thinking
- 43:24one way but having deceived yourself all along.
- 43:28And I know many, I have had many conversations with many people
- 43:32who were self deceived on some things and that's troubling and
- 43:37this is heartening. And I pray that God opens their
- 43:39eyes and that they have an awakening in their heart that
- 43:43helps them see the truth. Here's the next.
- 43:47Question. Revelation Chapter.
- 43:48Three and verse 16, Jesus talks about hot, cold and lukewarm.
- 43:52Is lukewarm the same as someone with a divided heart between the
- 43:56world and God? Sort of, but not really.
- 44:01Let me define lukewarm. You know, Jesus uses this term
- 44:04lukewarm in Revelation 315 and 16, and he's describing the
- 44:10spiritual condition of the church in Laodicea.
- 44:12This metaphor is kind of derived from the local water supply in
- 44:17the the Lucas Valley, where Laodiceas Luke warm water was
- 44:22neither refreshing like Colossus cold water, nor was it
- 44:26therapeutic like Heropolis Hot Springs.
- 44:30Jesus was stating that he would prefer the church to either be
- 44:34hot and therapeutic or cold and refreshing rather than lukewarm,
- 44:39indicating that their current state is almost palatable to
- 44:44him. The term lukewarm in this
- 44:46context doesn't refer to 1/2 hearted or mediocre faith, but
- 44:51rather to ineffectiveness and a lack of spiritual fruit.
- 44:56This lukewarm condition is characterized by worldly wealth,
- 45:01maybe distracting believers from spiritual values, self
- 45:04satisfaction, and a lack of passion for advancing God's
- 45:08Kingdom. Jesus warns that he would spit
- 45:11out or vomit the lukewarm, emphasizing the severity of the
- 45:15spiritual state. Now, some interpretation
- 45:18suggests that being lukewarm refers to those who pretend to
- 45:22be Christians but are not genuine believers, while others
- 45:25view it as a declining faith that is becoming spiritually
- 45:29ineffective. So that's kind of what some of
- 45:33the commentary is around being lukewarm.
- 45:37I think it's better to understand a divided heart or a
- 45:42lack of a whole heart with an impure heart where we are mixing
- 45:47other affections in our lives. And so I think that metaphor
- 45:52holds better. An impure heart is a a divided
- 45:58heart or a divided loyalty in love rather than one that is
- 46:02wholehearted, devoted, surrendered, and passion for
- 46:05Jesus. When Jesus is talking to the
- 46:09church in Laodicea, it's more about their effectiveness.
- 46:12They're kind of just neither. They're not being refreshing to
- 46:16anyone and they're not being this.
- 46:18So it's more of a passivity than it is a divided, distracted
- 46:24nature. At least that's some of how I
- 46:26see what Jesus is saying. So it's similar, but I don't
- 46:30know that I would say it's the same thing.
- 46:34Regardless, I don't want to have a divided heart, nor do I want
- 46:38to have a lukewarm faith. My allegiance needs to be
- 46:44refreshing and helpful and I want my heart for Jesus to not
- 46:50be polluted, to not be divided, to not have other affections and
- 46:56loves competing for my my my trust in Him.
- 47:01Great question though. Here's another one.
- 47:05Do you think some people identify themselves with their
- 47:08illness, their bad past etcetera to the point they don't really
- 47:13want to get well? Do you think some rather enjoy
- 47:18the attention they get? So this is this is obviously a
- 47:24case by case basis, but if we're talking in generalities, I think
- 47:29generally speaking, people who continually identify themselves
- 47:35as sinners often keep saying what we're all sinners.
- 47:39Well, you know, we're all sinners.
- 47:41They really have not really made a decision to stop being that
- 47:47they have not really had a new identity in Christ and and
- 47:51perhaps they would rather normalize their sin rather than
- 47:58intentionally create patterns of holiness in their life.
- 48:05Do I think people? Who always talking about playing
- 48:09the victim card are doing so maybe for attention.
- 48:13I think that's some of it. I think, you know, it's always
- 48:18easier to blame someone else or play the victim than it is to
- 48:22take responsibility for our own lives.
- 48:24I think that's pretty generally true.
- 48:28I think the blame game feels good to our broken soul.
- 48:32Like it feels good to blame someone else rather than owning
- 48:36up to our own thing. Like I'd rather blame.
- 48:41I'd rather blame the church rather than get vulnerable with
- 48:44my own insecurities. I'd rather blame my wife for not
- 48:50caring rather than risking actually asking her to meet a
- 48:56need. So I think the blame game always
- 49:01feels good because we're trying to not look at our own soul and
- 49:07not look at our own pain and not look at our own brokenness.
- 49:12I think that's always easier and it feels good in the moment, but
- 49:16it doesn't bring us healing, it doesn't bring us restoration and
- 49:20I think people that have. I think people who have a.
- 49:28Certain victim mentality, people who are always blaming others,
- 49:37people who are always kind of throwing away other things or
- 49:43making it sometimes people are always just looking for a reason
- 49:46to walk away from a relationship because they're.
- 49:50Still hurt. They're wounded.
- 49:52I think in the midst of all of those things, I have found that
- 49:55wounds like that still need to be healed with care.
- 49:59I think people need to be seen and need to be heard, and
- 50:04everyone needs someone to champion them towards
- 50:07restoration. And that's.
- 50:10Hard work that's not easy. Work.
- 50:12That's a lot of patience. It's frustrating.
- 50:16I think it's one of the things that is the most rewarding and
- 50:23the most draining for me as a pastor, if I'm being honest.
- 50:27Being vulnerable is sitting with people again and again, just
- 50:31seeing people, hearing them, helping them, championing them
- 50:35towards restoration. But oftentimes people will grow
- 50:39and they'll be healed to to some degree, but then something will
- 50:41come up and they don't really want to keep growing towards
- 50:44healing and they'd rather just distance themselves and they'll
- 50:46blame you or they'll blame this, or that's hard.
- 50:51It's not easy. So I think there are some people
- 50:53who enjoy attention, right? They'd rather have negative
- 50:56attention than no attention. I think that's that's true for
- 50:59some personalities and some people, but just it really
- 51:03indicates immaturity and some areas of brokenness that need to
- 51:07be healed. And so even though people would
- 51:10rather identify themselves as those things, I think it's an
- 51:14indication of brokenness, of insecurity, of wounds that need
- 51:18to be healed, that need loving presence to help people be seen
- 51:23and heard and championing them towards restoration.
- 51:26So it may be true, but the remedy is still they need
- 51:30restoration by Jesus. They need somebody to hear them,
- 51:33see them and championing them towards that restoration.
- 51:39Next question is this. What do you think Jesus would
- 51:42have done if the man had replied that he didn't want to get well?
- 51:47Would he have just walked away and said have fun in hell?
- 51:50Lol this made me laugh when I read it, partly because I did
- 51:55say that in one of the messages I was being kind of talking
- 51:59about this idea and just said, you know, basically you make a
- 52:04choice to not let Jesus make you whole.
- 52:07You may as it's like have fun in hell with that.
- 52:10And I meant it as a joke, and I think it came out a little
- 52:12harsher than maybe some had heard it.
- 52:16This person was having fun with it, I think.
- 52:18And so that's OK. The question remains, what do
- 52:23you think Jesus would have done if the man replied He didn't
- 52:26want to get well, to to be honest, you know, but the
- 52:29Scripture really doesn't deal with hypothetical scenarios.
- 52:33That's not really the point of Scripture.
- 52:35However, for the sake of our conversation, anytime we're
- 52:38faced with a hypothetical like this, I think we have to look at
- 52:44other times when something similar happened and how did
- 52:46Jesus respond? So think about the rich young
- 52:49ruler. Jesus didn't.
- 52:51Lower the standard. Nor did he force the rich young
- 52:55rich young ruler to follow him. And yet the rich young ruler
- 52:59walked away from Jesus dejected in that moment.
- 53:03Now we don't know what. Happened with rich young you.
- 53:04Later. Did he eventually repent, come
- 53:06back? We don't know.
- 53:06That's, again, that that wasn't the point.
- 53:09That wasn't what the Scripture was trying to reveal to us.
- 53:12So based on that one case study, to be honest, I think Jesus
- 53:18would have let him be. I think Jesus maybe he wouldn't
- 53:22have even asked. He would have known what the guy
- 53:24would have said. And so that's why Jesus asked.
- 53:26But I think there was a point Jesus was making.
- 53:30I think it was some things Jesus was after and, and, and, and
- 53:34Jesus knew really what was in this man's heart.
- 53:36And so it was just giving him an opportunity to give voice to
- 53:41what Jesus already knew in his heart.
- 53:44But the question is, would Jesus have still done that if the man
- 53:50was like, no, I don't want to get well, personally.
- 53:54Again, in this hypothetical scenario, I don't think Jesus
- 53:57would have lowered the standard. I don't think Jesus would have
- 54:01forced it. I think Jesus would have let it
- 54:04be. And if the man ever changed his
- 54:06mind, I think Jesus would have healed him then.
- 54:09Very interesting question for sure.
- 54:13The next one I. Understand that the.
- 54:14Pool didn't hold special powers, but weren't people healed when
- 54:18they entered it? Why else would they have gone?
- 54:23So I think it's possible that people would have at least
- 54:27gotten better or something would have happened.
- 54:28Now you have to think when the bubbles went off, you had to be
- 54:34pretty physically capable to get into the water first.
- 54:37So it's probably cutting out most of the blind people and
- 54:42most of the lame people. And that would have maybe left
- 54:44just people with some skin diseases, some things like along
- 54:48those lines, perhaps. So realistically, again, the
- 54:53Bible doesn't say that there are lots of things.
- 54:56I mean, think about our own culture.
- 54:58Folklore is a possibility, right?
- 55:00We we often follow what people say, even if it's not the truth
- 55:04all the time, right? You've got the placebo effect,
- 55:09not to get into crystals and oils.
- 55:13OK, next subject, right? Like we've got all of these
- 55:17remedies and here's this health remedy and this works and that
- 55:19works and this thing works and people say all sorts of things
- 55:23that may have had some truth for them, but it's not like true all
- 55:26the time or in every case or XY and Z.
- 55:30So I think folklore is a possibility to why people would
- 55:34stick around to this pool. I think though, personally, my
- 55:40hypothesis is that it's more likely that the water was maybe
- 55:45a hot spring of sorts that had some therapeutic properties.
- 55:52Maybe it was like a salt bath or like sulfur in the water has
- 55:58some therapeutic benefits to our physical being, right?
- 56:02Like I think sulfur and, and, and even salt, salt baths can
- 56:06have help with your skin, help with muscle and joints, things
- 56:11of that nature. So maybe people who had some
- 56:14ailments, but not like a broken leg, but just like a sore leg or
- 56:17a swollen leg, if they got into that water and it was a, a hot
- 56:22sulfur bath bubbling a little bit.
- 56:24Well, that by nature, the chemicals in the water would
- 56:28bring and produce some, some healing, make make some
- 56:32remedies. So I think that's more likely
- 56:34what what, what the pool of Bethesda really was.
- 56:38That's my guess based on just some things we don't really know
- 56:42for certain. So again, we're kind of dealing
- 56:45with some hypotheticals. But I tend to think maybe it had
- 56:48more of like a salt bath, hot water, sulfur spring to it.
- 56:53And that has some, you know, healing capacities or
- 56:57therapeutic remedies that are applicable.
- 57:02And and likely that's how people were being made well by this
- 57:07water. The pool is what they knew.
- 57:12But when a better way came, Jesus specifically, many didn't
- 57:16recognize it. How can one imagine of life made
- 57:21whole? If I'm understanding this
- 57:24question right, that the question is like men, they miss
- 57:27Jesus and they it was right in front of them.
- 57:29They're seeing these things, but yet their eyes weren't really
- 57:32open to to what it was. I'm going to take this in two
- 57:36parts. Number one on.
- 57:38On one level, no one comes to God unless the Holy Spirit draws
- 57:42them. Scripture seems to hint that we
- 57:47are blind to the things of God. We have blinders on because
- 57:52Satan has blinded our eyes to see the hope of Christ, and it
- 57:58takes the Holy Spirit to open our eyes so that we can see
- 58:03Jesus. No one comes to the Father
- 58:05unless the Spirit draws him, the Scripture says so that's one way
- 58:10that we recognize God, opens our eyes sovereignly.
- 58:13I think that if we can't recognize what a life made whole
- 58:17looks like, how will we know there's a better way?
- 58:20I think that's a fair question. I think sometimes all we know is
- 58:25all that we know, and that can be frustrating.
- 58:28I think this is one of the reasons why Jesus came as a
- 58:32physical, embodied example of eternal life, of abundant life.
- 58:37It's not that everyone didn't recognize him.
- 58:40There were some who did recognize him.
- 58:43So those who had eyes to see, those who had ears to hear,
- 58:47Jesus said let him hear. So Jesus came as an embodiment,
- 58:53as an incarnation of God, of what abundant eternal life with
- 58:58God looked like. So Jesus came as the example.
- 59:02So how can we recognize it? Well, we read the Scriptures to
- 59:06see the life of Jesus as the example of a rich, eternal,
- 59:12abundant life with God and how that it looks.
- 59:16I also think This is why we, as the people of God, want to
- 59:21become an accurate reflection of the radiant image of Christ, so
- 59:26that the world around us, those close to us, might taste and see
- 59:32that God is good. How can we help people imagine a
- 59:38life made whole? We bring that to life for them
- 59:44through the work of the Spirit and our own life.
- 59:48We're a witness. We're the one that they get to
- 59:52see, and they can see it in the Scriptures as well.
- 59:57If my identity is shaped like Jesus, what does that look like?
- 1:00:03You know, we talked again. A.
- 1:00:03Lot about identity. And I mentioned it earlier, but
- 1:00:07our identity is sons and daughters of God adopted
- 1:00:14belonging. Bible says that we are heirs and
- 1:00:17Co heirs with Christ calls us a royal priesthood, a holy nation,
- 1:00:23a peculiar people called out of darkness into his marvelous
- 1:00:29light. Peter says so.
- 1:00:32Our identity shaped like Jesus looks like Jesus.
- 1:00:37It's the truth we live out based on the scriptures and the
- 1:00:42realizations of of God's gifting and uniqueness in our life.
- 1:00:47That's that's who we are. We are becoming more like him.
- 1:00:52This is why what who we're becoming is more important than
- 1:00:57what we are doing for God. And we have to live from this
- 1:01:01place of identity. Identity is accepted.
- 1:01:04Identity is called. Our identity is chosen.
- 1:01:08Our identity is holy. Our identity is son and
- 1:01:11daughter. Our identity is loved by God.
- 1:01:16We are not working for love. We are working from a place of
- 1:01:20love. He has already given us His
- 1:01:23favor. He favors you because he's given
- 1:01:26you his spirit. Think that's an identity shaped
- 1:01:30by Jesus versus an identity shaped by the world that says
- 1:01:35you are what you do, you are what you produce.
- 1:01:37You are your value, Prove your value and will value you.
- 1:01:42Jesus says I'm proving your value by what I paid for you.
- 1:01:47And I think that's a big part of why our identity is shaped by
- 1:01:51the voice of God, His affirmation in our life.
- 1:01:55We are not working to be affirmed.
- 1:01:57We've already been affirmed by God.
- 1:02:02If Jesus healed the man because it was an opportunity to reveal
- 1:02:06himself as God, where does the love come in?
- 1:02:09Why does Jesus leave before the man could point him out?
- 1:02:14Yeah, this is an interesting thing, right?
- 1:02:16A little subtlety in the Scripture.
- 1:02:17Jesus, like, snuck away before the man could really understand
- 1:02:22who he was. Why would Jesus do all of those
- 1:02:25things? So.
- 1:02:28So one thing I think is important is to remember that
- 1:02:30Jesus knew the Father's timing. Again, he said things like in
- 1:02:35John 2, my hour hasn't come, right?
- 1:02:37It's not time for me to do the things that are going to cause a
- 1:02:42huge stir in the temple. In other words, Jesus had more
- 1:02:46ministry to do in other regions. And at this point in time in the
- 1:02:50narrative, it wasn't time for Jesus to go to the cross yet.
- 1:02:54So Jesus ready wasn't ready to create that climactic tipping
- 1:02:58point where maybe the Pharisees would be enraged and fully
- 1:03:03angered and like Jesus was was moving and edging in that
- 1:03:07direction. He was kind of like, you know,
- 1:03:09kind of showing up a little bit, but it wasn't quite time to take
- 1:03:13it all the way there just yet. It wasn't the last lap.
- 1:03:17And so he's holding some back still.
- 1:03:19So I think Jesus knew the Father's timing and knew it
- 1:03:23wasn't time to go full on, you know, couldn't confrontation
- 1:03:30make them mad and want to kill him?
- 1:03:32Yet they weren't happy with him. No doubt they were kind of
- 1:03:37disturbed by it, but it was just the beginning of the stirring
- 1:03:42and the boiling point that was coming.
- 1:03:45I think you have to remember love is always the motivation of
- 1:03:48Jesus, even when revealing His true nature.
- 1:03:53It's an act of love. So the fact that it was an
- 1:03:55opportunity for for him to do, to reveal his divine God like
- 1:04:00nature, his God like nature is loving.
- 1:04:05So it's not mutually exclusive. Part of I think our hang up with
- 1:04:12this is like we think loving emotional things rather than the
- 1:04:17full context of love. Like everything God does is from
- 1:04:21a place of of love and holiness, right?
- 1:04:24Like this is an element of him. This is kind of who his
- 1:04:27character and his nature is. His motivation is never self
- 1:04:32aggrandizing for arrogance sake, right?
- 1:04:36Like everything Jesus does is motivated with humility.
- 1:04:41It's never rooted in hubris in an attempt to become celebrity.
- 1:04:47Jesus wasn't trying to like, stir the crowds to like, shout
- 1:04:54hosanna, right? Like that wasn't something Jesus
- 1:04:56stirred up. That time was coming.
- 1:04:59It would be a prophetic act for sure.
- 1:05:02But that time wasn't here yet. And even in that it wasn't Jesus
- 1:05:06stirring it up just for celebrity sake and building a
- 1:05:10platform or becoming famous, Jesus was doing these things
- 1:05:14intentionally because he saw the Father do them and he knew it
- 1:05:18was the Father's desire for him to do them.
- 1:05:21And so because Jesus loved the Father and the Father loved
- 1:05:25Jesus, Jesus did what the Father wanted him to do.
- 1:05:28Jesus is obedience to the Father, even in his timing, was
- 1:05:33an act of love. And so those two things aren't
- 1:05:36mutually exclusive. They are linked together.
- 1:05:39So those two things are the same.
- 1:05:41Jesus can have the opportunity in healing to be a sign that
- 1:05:46points to His divinity, which also is a loving nature.
- 1:05:50His divinity is a loving, divine nature, and those two things are
- 1:05:55compatible together in John. Chapter 5 The.
- 1:05:59Pharisees responded with self righteousness when Jesus healed
- 1:06:02a man on the Sabbath. What's the difference between
- 1:06:06self righteousness and the kind of righteousness God desires for
- 1:06:11our for our lives? This is a really great question
- 1:06:17right to to think about the difference between righteousness
- 1:06:19and self righteousness. Righteousness that we have is
- 1:06:24actually Jesus's. It's Jesus's righteousness that
- 1:06:27he gives to us. We are in Christ, so we are
- 1:06:30covered by his righteousness. In other words, we don't own
- 1:06:34righteousness. It's something that God has
- 1:06:36given to Jesus because of what he's done.
- 1:06:39He imputes his righteousness. The scripture actually says to
- 1:06:42us, which is an account an an accounting term, self
- 1:06:49righteousness is selfish. It's full of hubris.
- 1:06:52It's justifying its own actions with its own reasoning and
- 1:06:56logic. Self righteousness isn't really
- 1:06:59submitted to the Father. It actually is self glorifying
- 1:07:03rather than God glorifying. Self righteousness is often
- 1:07:06snobby, looking down in a critical ways on others.
- 1:07:11This is the self righteousness that that many have.
- 1:07:15So there is a a big difference between self righteousness and
- 1:07:18and righteousness. In fact our own attempts to be
- 1:07:23righteous aren't really of God because our our trust in that
- 1:07:30moment is in the action rather than our trust being in God.
- 1:07:35And so many times the Pharisees lived with a self righteousness
- 1:07:40thinking that their actions justified them and in other
- 1:07:44words their trust was in the action.
- 1:07:47Their trust wasn't in Yahweh, and so our trust belongs to
- 1:07:52Yahweh, not to our our actions. In this passage of John 5.
- 1:07:59It's relatively easy to distinguish between morality and
- 1:08:02legality, but that's not always the case in our lives.
- 1:08:06How can we become more aware of moments when our choices or
- 1:08:09attitudes are are even rooted in this self righteousness rather
- 1:08:13than in God's heart like in John 544?
- 1:08:16Jesus said. How Can you believe since you
- 1:08:18accept glory from one another, but don't seek the glory that
- 1:08:22comes from the only God. Does this passage answer the
- 1:08:27that that question? Who am I trying to glorify?
- 1:08:32So I'm going to take all of this together.
- 1:08:34It it does kind of answer it. Yeah.
- 1:08:37When we do good works to be seen by others and recognized by
- 1:08:41others. Jesus said there's your reward,
- 1:08:45no reward from God for that. You people congratulated you.
- 1:08:48You don't need God's blessing. Now Jesus is kind of using some
- 1:08:53tongue in cheek there. You seek glory from each other.
- 1:08:57No need to get glory from God, I guess, huh?
- 1:08:59You, you got all you need, bud. And so Jesus is kind of kind of
- 1:09:03pointing out the fact that like, and you can't even really
- 1:09:06believe in God because you believe in yourself more than
- 1:09:09you believe in God. It's more of a humanistic self
- 1:09:13righteousness rather than a humble trust in Christ's
- 1:09:18righteousness. And I think that's important.
- 1:09:21Many of us today live with a self realized glory.
- 1:09:30You're good enough, you've got what it takes, you're the best
- 1:09:34like and these affirmations, I get it.
- 1:09:36We're we're trying to wash our mind from AI can't victim to a
- 1:09:41positive, I can't outcome. And so I'm not trying to toss
- 1:09:44all of that out. But I think we need to be
- 1:09:46careful that we're not trusting more in our humanness, that we
- 1:09:51forget to rely on God's goodness.
- 1:09:55The issue of morality and legality is indeed a fine line
- 1:10:00at times. Sometimes it's really clear
- 1:10:02because they're aligned together.
- 1:10:04Sometimes it's really clear because they're not right.
- 1:10:07Like morality, don't murder, legality don't murder like
- 1:10:10they're aligned. But sometimes it gets
- 1:10:15convoluted. It's similar to the idea of hey,
- 1:10:18let's, let's disagree agreeably. In other words, I want to
- 1:10:24disagree with this idea and kind of reject this thought.
- 1:10:28But it's not a wholesale rejection of you as a person or
- 1:10:31our relationship, right? Those are fine, fine lines.
- 1:10:35Sometimes we need to do the moral thing, even if it's
- 1:10:38illegal, which is why Jesus would use the example of, you
- 1:10:44know, which of you Pharisees on the Sabbath, if your donkey gets
- 1:10:48lost or falls into a well, would you not help them out?
- 1:10:53How much more should you help this brother or sister who's in
- 1:10:58need on the Sabbath? It's no less work, it's even
- 1:11:03more moral. It's kind of like in our world
- 1:11:07today, we see things like many people care more about plastic
- 1:11:14straws and saving whales than they do saving unborn babies.
- 1:11:21The morality isn't the same. I'm going to we, we don't need
- 1:11:27to spend the same amount of money on saving the whales as we
- 1:11:31do educational things in our nation, helping people sustain
- 1:11:38and get out of hell. But I, I, I think that there
- 1:11:40are, there are some causes, while perhaps noble aren't quite
- 1:11:45the same level of morality as other causes in our nation.
- 1:11:50And I just think we need to be honest about that.
- 1:11:54And so man, I think I think that's you know, if it if it
- 1:11:57became legal to feed someone elses dog, but it became illegal
- 1:12:05to feed someone elses kids or to give somebody to feed a needy
- 1:12:10dog is fine, but to feed a needy child is illegal.
- 1:12:13Well, the morality of that just doesn't compute.
- 1:12:17The math ain't math thing on that right.
- 1:12:19So it is hard sometimes to see the line and sometimes it's not
- 1:12:24hard to see the line. And sometimes we just get them
- 1:12:27flipped and inverted all the time.
- 1:12:29And, and we need to be careful with that.
- 1:12:30We need to recognize that and our self-righteous attitudes can
- 1:12:35get in the way. Our own trust and our own good
- 1:12:37works and humanism can get in the way.
- 1:12:41And, and now we, we can, we can find, we can easily trick
- 1:12:46ourselves. And this is the hard part, that
- 1:12:49doing something good for someone else is just for them.
- 1:12:54Sometimes doing good for someone else, we do it because it feels
- 1:12:59good to us and we want to do it in a way that makes us feel good
- 1:13:03rather than in a way that is most beneficial to to them and.
- 1:13:09Sometimes that's. A hard one in our hearts and
- 1:13:11minds, yeah. I think that's that's that's a.
- 1:13:16Hard one. I'll give you an example.
- 1:13:21We have a lot of ministry partners.
- 1:13:24We have several outreach ministry partners, some locally.
- 1:13:29The Beacon is one of our local outreach partners where we
- 1:13:33financially give every month to the Beacon to help provide food
- 1:13:39to those in our community who need it.
- 1:13:41Now could we create our own? Food Bank and.
- 1:13:45Always give to people food who need it whenever they need it.
- 1:13:49As long as we have it, we, we could do that.
- 1:13:52And man, it would be really feel really good to be the ones to
- 1:13:57give the food out. Man, it feels good to do that.
- 1:14:01But is it any less important? Is it more important that people
- 1:14:06get food or that we get to give them the food?
- 1:14:10There's the line, but both are morally good to do.
- 1:14:14Both are legal to do. The line of self righteousness
- 1:14:18comes and I'm doing this and I'm feeling a little bit more glory
- 1:14:21because I was hands on in it versus someone else interacted,
- 1:14:26gave the food, but we helped fund it.
- 1:14:29And so it's kind of like out of sight, out of mind a little bit.
- 1:14:32So like, man, we're letting them do that.
- 1:14:34They're getting the, the recognition for it.
- 1:14:36Nobody knows that we're doing it.
- 1:14:37We're like silent partners in that way.
- 1:14:39Like how do we feel about that? Well, man, I, I think that's a
- 1:14:43hard check, a motive check for all of us.
- 1:14:45We're not, we're not trying to do these things to be seen by
- 1:14:47men or to be thanked by men or to have a plaque in our name
- 1:14:51somewhere. We're doing it because it's the
- 1:14:53right thing to do and, and, and we want to be generous in that
- 1:14:56way. So our motives of self
- 1:14:59righteousness of trying to glory in ourselves versus letting God
- 1:15:03be have glory and just being faithful and honoring him and
- 1:15:06laws of morality and legality lines of those man.
- 1:15:09All of that does indeed kind of crossover.
- 1:15:14And it's easy to get the wires crossed and to do it in the
- 1:15:18wrong way or in the wrong motives.
- 1:15:19And so we always have to just examine that before the Lord and
- 1:15:22ask the Holy Spirit to check our hearts in how we go about doing
- 1:15:26those those things. Final question is this.
- 1:15:31As someone with a very quote, UN quote works based background,
- 1:15:35how do we shake that feeling that we have to do this or we
- 1:15:40have quote UN quote to do that? Are those feelings convictions
- 1:15:44from the Holy Spirit or are they quote UN quote works based
- 1:15:48performance thoughts intruding? Such a good question.
- 1:15:53And, and while I wouldn't say I grew up in a, in a huge like
- 1:15:56works based environment, I have a tendency my personality is to
- 1:16:03be very performance oriented, doing things to be, you know, I
- 1:16:09want to, I want to be at my, my primal question is, am I
- 1:16:13successful? And so external things they say,
- 1:16:15oh man, it kind of shouts at my, my own self and who I am.
- 1:16:21So I, I, I think it's really important to know this here.
- 1:16:23Here's the first thing I'll say. Shame and guilt don't help
- 1:16:28produce a life of courage, but performance.
- 1:16:32So anytime we're, we're being shamed or guilt tripped into
- 1:16:36something, it's not going to produce real courage and
- 1:16:40boldness of the Holy Spirit. Rather, just put us on the
- 1:16:43treadmill of performance practices of our faith.
- 1:16:50These works that we would do, these good works that glorify
- 1:16:54our God in heaven as Jesus says on the Sermon on the Mount.
- 1:16:58These practices of our faith are an invitation and an opportunity
- 1:17:05in relationship and encountering the beauty of God.
- 1:17:10Let me say it again, spiritual practices are an invitation into
- 1:17:14relationships and into an encounter of the beauty of God
- 1:17:19in our lives. So they're not a have to you
- 1:17:25have to do this or I'm not going to love you.
- 1:17:28That's that's definitely workspace have to quote UN quote
- 1:17:31stuff. That's the wrong motive if you
- 1:17:35are doing them to feel more loved by God.
- 1:17:39We are definitely living from a works based idea and framework.
- 1:17:44God has already demonstrated his love towards you in that He made
- 1:17:49a way for you to have relationship with Him.
- 1:17:53He's already initiated it. We just step into that love.
- 1:17:58We step into who He is. We step into His blessing and
- 1:18:01His family. This comes from our culture for
- 1:18:05sure, where we prioritize and reward doing more than being.
- 1:18:13Think about it. You give your kids money for
- 1:18:16chores they do. What if instead, you started
- 1:18:20giving your kids allowance for characteristics that they
- 1:18:26develop? What if you started doing
- 1:18:29something that because they learned a new skill, that they
- 1:18:32developed something about who they are?
- 1:18:35Who they were becoming was growing.
- 1:18:38Rather, they just did something that you asked them to do.
- 1:18:42Our culture, what what man, we, we, we prize, we pay, we reward,
- 1:18:47we give bonuses based on outcomes, based on doing.
- 1:18:52I'm not saying it's all wrong. That's the society that we're
- 1:18:55operating in. The trouble is, is when we take
- 1:18:58the society we live in and superimpose it on the Kingdom of
- 1:19:02God that we're born into, they're not the.
- 1:19:06Same. Kingdom.
- 1:19:08So the goals and the priorities and success of Kingdom of Heaven
- 1:19:13is different than the success of earth.
- 1:19:17And it's imperative that we understand the difference.
- 1:19:20We are not laying the Kingdom of Earth on top of the Kingdom of
- 1:19:24Heaven and saying now these things are compatible.
- 1:19:27Nor are we laying the Kingdom of Heaven on the Kingdom of earth
- 1:19:29and saying, Oh yes, these are the same.
- 1:19:31No, they're different kingdoms all together.
- 1:19:35There might be some things that are similar or point to or
- 1:19:37reference, but they are different kingdoms.
- 1:19:42So it's important for us to recognize even in our goal
- 1:19:47oriented nature in this life, they really need any goals that
- 1:19:53we set, need to really begin with who do we want to become?
- 1:19:59Not goals of what do we want to accomplish.
- 1:20:03I, I, I, I think James Clear in his book Atomic Habits does a
- 1:20:07brilliant job of outlining this for us, that our goals really
- 1:20:14should not be I want to achieve XY and Z.
- 1:20:17Our goals really should be about who are we becoming and who is
- 1:20:21it we want to represent. That's a better way of
- 1:20:25approaching our own life, our own formation, our own growth,
- 1:20:30our own maturity. As followers of Jesus, our.
- 1:20:34Our end goal is to become more reflective of the radiance of
- 1:20:38Christ in the message, I said. At the end of the day, we want
- 1:20:41to look more like the radiance of Christ and less like our
- 1:20:45grandparents. It's not to say our.
- 1:20:48Grandparents are bad, that's not.
- 1:20:49To say we're not going to actually physically look like
- 1:20:51them. Like again, our genetics are our
- 1:20:53genetics. We can't help it.
- 1:20:56People hear my dad and my brothers and I and all talk and
- 1:20:59we're like, Dang, they all sound.
- 1:21:00People are like they all sound the same.
- 1:21:01Well, we can't help that. That's genetics, right?
- 1:21:06There are certain nuances and things that we could change,
- 1:21:09mannerisms with great practice and skill and awareness and
- 1:21:12intention. Maybe I could change.
- 1:21:14But the end of the day, the natural elements of the
- 1:21:17physicality of my life are kind of written by the DNA script of
- 1:21:22my life. Now, by saying we want to be
- 1:21:26more like Christ than we want to be like our grandparents, that's
- 1:21:29not, again, not say our grandparents are bad or that
- 1:21:31we're not going to be like them or they're not admirable traits
- 1:21:33that we want to be. That's not the point.
- 1:21:36What I'm trying to say is that our attitude, our posture, our
- 1:21:40generosity, our level of patience, our, our, our, our
- 1:21:44sensitivity to the Holy Spirit, all of these Kingdom
- 1:21:49characteristics, we want them to look more like the radiance of
- 1:21:52Christ. I want to point people to Jesus.
- 1:21:56I don't, I don't want to just point out myself.
- 1:21:58The end of the day when I die, I want people to say that was
- 1:22:02someone who loved Jesus well and loved like Jesus.
- 1:22:07That's what I want people to say about me.
- 1:22:09The end of the day, I want my life to be kind of like Peter
- 1:22:13and John, where people are like, man, that was an ordinary
- 1:22:16unschooled dude, but he spent time with Jesus and it shows.
- 1:22:21That's what I want. I want people.
- 1:22:25I want Jesus to rub off on me, off off me to others.
- 1:22:30That's when I'm at WE. Want to become more?
- 1:22:32Reflective of the radiance of of Christ.
- 1:22:35And so remember, we are we. We live and move and find our
- 1:22:40being in the Holy Spirit. We don't live and move and find
- 1:22:43our being to earn the Holy Spirit.
- 1:22:47We're working from a place of love and adoption and
- 1:22:50acceptance. We are not working for a place
- 1:22:53of love, adoption, and acceptance.
- 1:22:56God has already done those things for us, and we respond in
- 1:23:02love and in kind toward Him. Jesus said it like this.
- 1:23:08If you love me, you'll keep my commandments.
- 1:23:11In other words, the more we spend time loving Jesus and
- 1:23:15getting to know Jesus, the more we'll live, obey, and keep the
- 1:23:20commands of Jesus. Not because we have to, not
- 1:23:24because he's forcing us, not because we've been manipulated,
- 1:23:28but because that's what love does.
- 1:23:31Love reciprocates love. When I am loving to my wife by
- 1:23:37nature, she becomes not only more receptive of my love, but
- 1:23:41she returns love naturally because you, you what you sow,
- 1:23:49you reap. And so God is sowing His love
- 1:23:53towards us and He reaps our love back towards Him.
- 1:23:58It's a natural response. And so it's not a have to, it's
- 1:24:02not a workspace thing. It's coming back from a place of
- 1:24:06being centered in God's love. And from that we live and move
- 1:24:12and find our being. It's the Spirit who does that.
- 1:24:15We're not earning it, We're not demanding it, we're not meriting
- 1:24:19it, but we're living from it nonetheless.
- 1:24:23Hey, that's it for today. That was a ton of questions.
- 1:24:27I hope you're home with us. And I do really indeed,
- 1:24:30sincerely just say thank you for listening for for hanging in
- 1:24:33there with us, man. I hope this episode of the Faith
- 1:24:37for Today podcast has encouraged you and helped you integrate a
- 1:24:42life of faithfulness today. Hope you have faith for today
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