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Codpiece Ripper · Like a Virgin

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: If our fire island ferry Titanics tomorrow instead of that,
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: you know that the four the four piece orchestra that
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: was there, what what would be? There will be some
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: giy guy playing Charlie xax on his phone. Yeah, not
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: even with the speaker, and they'll be like, can you
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: scream a little quieter? We can't hear the song. Have
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: you ever wanted to talk like a man and spirit
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: like a man? I? Um, I assume you're referencing Titanic.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't rewatch for this episode. I'm not gonna lie.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to the virgin. You mean you
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: don't do a bi annual Titanic viewing like I do?
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: So do you mean bi annual in the twice year
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: since or in the every other year since? Because okay,
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: here the English language is insane and bi annual does
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: mean both? Isn't that so stupid? Well it means that
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: I'm by and I watch it in you elite. Oh
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: that's a really good um. Anyways, and virgins, in case
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: you haven't figured it out, um, and we did warn
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: you ahead of time. Today we are watching Titanic and
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: discussing all of the things that there are to discuss
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: about um what bros Will say is the greatest film
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: ever created. Yes, today we are revisiting James Cameron's flawed
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: but beautiful masterpiece Titanic. Uh, and we really have to
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: call it James Cameron's Titanic. I feel like we should
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: be erasing him at this point. I feel like it
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: should be erased. His dirty little fingerprints are all over
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: it and it would not be what it is without him.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: And we are going to look back at Titanic and
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: talk about how it shaped us, how maybe some of
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: us crashed into it like an iceberg and it totally
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: changed the course of our lives. Because this is like
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: a virgin the show where we give yesterday's pop culture
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: today's takes. I'm Rose damn you, and I'm fran Toronto.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah he there's nothing effy epsing myself for this. I
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: have something really dark to admit, which is that I
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: did not leave my apartment this weekend. Not once did
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: you step out to get like a coffee or like
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: I stepped out to take trash to the dumpster. Otherwise
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: I did not leave my I didn't leave my apartment building.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: I love that. Honestly, it's all about restoration here and
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: uh did you did you restore? What did you do? Well? What?
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: I The main reason is that I read um three
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: books this weekend. Oh so brag So I I just
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: got a kindle because I want one and Amazon day,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, backup, back up, phoebe
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: take that out. We are not on this podcast anyway,
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: shouting out Amazon Day. I got it. I got an
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: unnamed electronic reader, um, and I read six books last week. Whoa,
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of your reading ability. You're reading. The
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: caveat is unmatched. The caveat is. They were all historical
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: gay romances, so you know they're they're quick reads. What
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: are were they lesbian romances? Where they was gonna they
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: were mm oh not mm so they can't even be
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: deemed bodice rippers. They're um like Cody rippers. Did we
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: just did we just invent that? Honestly, we're genius. Um. Well,
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: so I started reading one of them while we were
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: on vacation. You you have seen what is it called
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: The Soldier and Soldier Scoundrels, The Soldiers scoundrel So I
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: finished that and read the other two books in that series,
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: and then I read a series by this author whose
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: books I've read before. Their name is K. J. Charles,
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: and I read this series. Um, that's sort of like
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: it's called The Charm of Magpies and it's like historical
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: gay fantasy. I kind of needed it because I have
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: been writing a lot and reading a lot has been
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: really helpful to that process. And also I just like
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to read some gay, historical gay erotica. Love that
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  Speaker 1: for you. I do think we should start like a
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Virgin book club. I definitely I'm on a little reading
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: stint after a whole I mean, in June, I feel
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: like I didn't read at all. But on Fire Island
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: I did start to read the Death of a vic
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  Speaker 1: O g by Equake, a messy who's like an amaze
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: author that I've admired for a while. And I also
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: picked up, much to your delight, I finally picked up
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: a rather borrowed my friend Amy's copy of Searcy by
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: Madeline Miller. Oh, I didn't know that. That's amazing. Yeah,
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you about it. But like Madeline
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: Miller wrote a Song of Achilles, which is one of
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: my favorite books of all time, and I very famously
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: did interview her for my senior thesis paper for undergrad
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: I think Searcy is the superior book. Okay, but I
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: obviously you know Witchcraft is always going to reign supreme
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: for me. But I think it would be so fun
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: to do a book club because you and I have
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: obviously is anyone who listens to this podcast knows have
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: very different tastes that often intersect. So I feel like
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: if we did something where like every other month, we
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: switched off on something that one of us was interested
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  Speaker 1: in reading. Although I'm going to draw a hard line
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: on like conflict does not abuse is like not going
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: in the rotation. Oh I can't. I can't honestly provide
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: any nonfiction, Like you will not pick up any nonfiction. No,
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: I will pick up nonfiction. Name one nonfiction book you
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  Speaker 1: would consider. Um. Wait, I was reading something nonfiction recently
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  Speaker 1: and now I can't remember what it was. You just
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: can't handle reality. I can't handle reality though. It's but
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: my taste is I prefer fiction and if I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to read, and if I'm going to read essays, like
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: I read a lot of journalism and like essays and nonfiction,
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't like reading them. In book form. I
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: need like the short bites, yeah, the the real nes Um.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: If you are interested in a like a virgin book club, Um,
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  Speaker 1: slide into our d M s and let us know
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: and we will figure out a way to make it happen.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: And if you would like to be our intern running
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  Speaker 1: the like a version book club, because we don't have
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  Speaker 1: the capacity to do that, please let us figure we
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  Speaker 1: could figure it out easily. But also slide into our
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  Speaker 1: d M s and recommend some books. Okay, sounds good.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: I love to read. Okay, now you want to say,
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: I say I love to read as if it's with
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: a gun to my head. Um, okay, yes, let me
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: tell you Rose. I picked up drag Race Haspania. I'm
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: honestly very ashamed that I hadn't started watching up until now.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Um I had a friend, Um it might have been
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: no actually who told me to skip season one because
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a flop and just watch season two,
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: which is an immaculately cast season and it is so good.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: And I have to say, I mean, okay. The one
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: caveat is that lip syncs across the board have been terrible,
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if like Spanish drag there's a
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: lot of obviously cultural nuances between all the different kinds
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: of international drag shows that are happening, but like maybe
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: there's a different threshold are quality metric or performance style
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: that exists in Spain because I feel like but I
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: feel like like lip syncs have been bad across the
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  Speaker 1: board multiple franchises, because the lipsticks have been bad on
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: All Stars this season. Actually t like they really have been,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: like not even Jinks really is like serving in the
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: lip syncs. But I think part of it is the
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: song selection. Yeah it is is um that's so true.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: I but what I wanted to say, just to plug
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: the show, or at least to plug season two for
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: the Virgins, is that one the critiques are incredible, Like
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: they are so thorough on the critiques for dr Espana,
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: and the categories are really cool. They had a whole
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: category on al Motive our Films. They they had a
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: horror category, which drag Race has never done, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like maybe one of the best runways I've seen
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  Speaker 1: on any drag Race franchise in a very long time.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: And the Hobbies, who are the co directors and creators
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: of laven No, really esteemed creators in Espania are two
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: of the judges on drag Race, and not only are
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: the excellent judges, but they are the hottest people on
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: the planet. And I actually I'm going to send you
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: a picture right now. I think I've seen what they
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: look like. Babe. Let's see what you consider the hottest
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: people on the planet. Just these two average like Abercambie
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  Speaker 1: looking white men. But it's just the fact that they're
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: like also like talented and astute and intellectual and like
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: brilliant creators in addition to being hot. I mean, they're hot.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call them the hottest people on the plan. No, no, no, no,
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: no, no no, no, okay, okay, get wait wait wait wait,
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: give me give me secon give me a second, give
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: me a second. No, I don't I don't think. I
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: don't think different photos will change that opinion. No, it will,
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: it will, it will, it will, it will, it will
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  Speaker 1: it won't. Okay. Anyways, are they boyfriends, Yes, they're boyfriends.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: They're like part their husbands. Basically, it's they're giving Bellamy
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, they are giving Bella me. Oh god,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I hate that about me. Um. Speaking of TV shows
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: that you that that one of us watches the other
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: one doesn't. UM. I started watching What We Do in
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: the Shadows this weekend, which I had never so. It's
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: a vampire mockumentary that was created by Tako A t
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: T and the guy from behind Flight of the Concords UM.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: I have known about it for a while but was
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: never really interested in watching it, even though, like obviously
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: I love vampires. But the new season came out recently.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: I think it was just nominated for an Emmy, and
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: so I guess it's been in the ether enough that
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I was interested and saw it pop up on Hulu
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: as something recommended for me, and I watched the whole
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: first season this weekend and I haven't laughed out loud
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: watching a TV show like that in forever. It's actually funny.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: It's about for anyone who doesn't know it's about. It's
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: like mockumentary style, like The Office or Parks and Recreation,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: about three vampires who lived together on Staten Island and
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: they're very like old school vampiric, like very like Dracula
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Ivantus Blood but like ridiculous, and they have a human
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: familiar who takes care of them and they just get
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: into all these like crazy hijinks. The first season, Beanie
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Feldstein is in as a referring guest star. It is
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: so funny and smart and I just have heard so
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: many good things about it and it's it's really good.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: And despite how kind of tired I am of Taiko A.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: T t as a like cultural figure, I mean, he's
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: he directs and writes a lot of it. But it
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: was only in one episode. There's actually an episode in
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: the first season that features actors who have played iconic
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: vampires in a bunch of different media, like Tilda Swinton's
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: in It so clever, Like what a what a kind
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: of cinematic invention on the writing level. Yeah, I guess
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: it was based on They made a movie version of
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: this like years ago, and so this is an adaptation
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: of that. Um. The fourth season is currently on now.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: But it's really funny. I think you would be into
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: it if you watched it. From what you described, it
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: sounds like really good. I I might have to hop
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: on because I'm I'm not necessarily running out of TV,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: but like I could use something new because I feel
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: like I'm just watching the same ship. I started it
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: out because I thought it would be something good to
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: watch while I was doing something else, like while I
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: was I was cleaning on Saturday, and thought it would
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: be good to have something in the background. But then
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: it's so good that I stopped doing the other things
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I was doing so that I could just watch it. Okay,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I love that Rose. I I wouldn't say I was
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: excited for the Lizzo album, but I am like a
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Lizzo stand like I adore her as a celebrity. I
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: have been following her since day one. I remember going
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: to see her do a talk and performance at south
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: By Southwest to like a room of like a hundred
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: and fifty people, like I love Lizzo and I actually
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: really loved her last album because I Love You. But
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: the singles that she has been putting out have been
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've just they've just they've been TikTok songs.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: We can say that they've been perfect. And I don't
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: want to get and because I love her, I don't
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: want to get on here and like grill Lizzo. Like
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: even if I don't think that this new album Special
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: is really that great. The thing that I feel warrants
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: critique is a song on this album called Everybody's Gay.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Have you seen or heard about this at all? Not? Well,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: she there's actually only seen kind of uniformly positive engagement
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: with the Lizzo album from people. That's so interesting to me. Um.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: I will save maybe my thoughts on the album for
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: group chats, but I think that it is worth it
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: to say that Lizzo and her team knew what they
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: were doing when they put a song on this album
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: called Everybody's Gay. They're gonna get the pink news them
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: to us, like headline circuit that says Lizzo has created
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: like the next queer anthem. This is so amazing, Um,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: like put it up in the clubs. It's Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 1: referential like whatever. And like this song, first of all,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: it sucks. The lyrics are garbage, and I feel like
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: it is such a vacant ploy to be an ally
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: anthem that has not earned its keep, Like when we
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: think about the canon of gay anthems or whatever, starting
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: from like Diana Ross doing I'm coming out to express
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: yourself to born this way. This is coming from artists
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: who have clocked the hours and have put in the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: work as like a queer ally so to speak, to
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: have written and put out a single that is like
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: essentially pandering to that community, and I feel like this
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: song was on like you need to calm down levels
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: of like cringe in terms of what it was trying
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: to do with like the Pride circuit. And I don't know,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: it just like was very ick to me because Lizzo
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: unfortunately belongs to this class of celebrities that briefly came
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: out as like queer and then went back into the closet.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Was like, no, I'm an ally, I'm an ally because
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: like Nikki did that, jesse J did that, Gaga kind
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: of did that, Like Marcos never said that she's not
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: actually bisexual, no, but she has very explicitly pivoted to
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: ally and every every time she talks about the community
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: she identifies as an ally, even if she hasn't explicitly
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: said I'm not bisexual anymore or whatever. It is a
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: strict heijik motivation, probably put on by like their management teams.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's maybe something they don't want to do,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: but like if celebrities are queer, they often have to
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: go back into the closet to have more mainstream appeal,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: and I feel like Lizza was one of those people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the difference with Gaga and not to harbor Gaga,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: but you know, I spent most of yesterday watching clips
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: from the Chromatical Ball and the thing that says Gaga
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: apart her her sexuality aside, and I think it's a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: very slippery slope to say, like she's not who she
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: says she is, but Gaga is and has always been
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  Speaker 1: fully immersed in queer exactly exactly. It's in a way
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  Speaker 1: in a way that I've never seen lizzob And I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: wonder if for Lizzo because she's such a gen Z
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: pop star and we're at this point of like no labels,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like everyone's gay. Like she does feel the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: right to play in that sandbox without having actually like
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: done the on the ground work, just because of the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: sort of like almost post identity era that we are in.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And the thing about this song and also with you
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: need to Calm Down, which I think is in the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: same category. It's like, which I do. It's one of
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: my baby to kind of regularly no no, no, not
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but but it's like it's the one with if I'm
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: coming to that. This is Taylor Swift Spotify playlist and
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: you need to calm down comes on I won't skip.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are losing credibility on this podcast
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: fast that song issh Um, I don't give a ship. Well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: what I was going to say that you disagree with
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: is that the I would totally excuse the egregiousness of
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: both of these like songs if they were just good songs.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: But the songs are both of the songs. I think
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: we're more focused on shape never made anybody. Let's get
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that sucks. That's one of the worst things that has
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: ever been written. Um. And I really feel like like
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  Speaker 1: if the songs were good, all of this would be forgiven.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Like I would not give a ship about being pandered too.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: If the song is good and um, and that's like
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: not a great that's I'm not proud of that, but
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  Speaker 1: I think that that is culturally. Culturally, that's how the
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  Speaker 1: machine works. And um. Yeah. Anyways, I just needed to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to to vent about it because Lizzo is someone who
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I adore and admire and I'm rooting for and she
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, her celebrity is not tainted. She's going to
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: continue to ascend and make better and better work. But like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this is just not it and I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: album is is it either it's like, honestly like bootleg
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, bordering on bootleg justin Timberlake, which is bootleg
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, I guess, but it's like getting to like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the Robin Thick territory of like generic like disco feel good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is, but I mean
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: speaking but speaking of disco feel good. Before we go, um,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I'm here to give my official review of Minions The
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Rise of grou which I did see on my birthday
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: last week, and it was so good. I had such
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: a fun time at that movie. I went in knowing
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing about Minions still known, I think I probably
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: know less about them having seen the movie. But it
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was a great time. It was short and sweet. The
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: one thing I was disappointed about was that a lot
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: of the songs on the album are not actually in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the movie. It's like a lot of the songs that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: are covered, they played the actual versions of them in
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the movie. So I guess the album is more like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: inspired by the film. It's more of like a vibe.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it was. It was great. I had
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a great time, and um, I I don't know that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I will ever see a Minions movie again. I did
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: clock some gentle Minions in the theater, which I don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: know if you've seen this phenomenon for the visions. What
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: are what our gentlemans? So it's this TikTok thing of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: young men who go to Minions movies in full suits.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Do they have any Minions makeup or paraphernili just they're
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: just wearing suits? What gentle minions, gentlemenion? Where does this
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: come from? That's so CULTI probably from TikTok. Probably from
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: TikTok as it always comes from TikTok. Um. Wow, maybe
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'll wear my suit to the Minions to the to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: my Minion screening. I don't really recommend you see it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think you would enjoy it. I mean, I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: think it would be fine, but I just it's not
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: how I want to spend my day, I guess. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: still I'm honestly behind on on like going to theaters
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and seeing movies. I have to get my home, I asked, Hi,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: an am see, I've been seeing like the thing three
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: movies a week because of my now stubs. A list status,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that's ryan a list status, Mama, I'm going to see
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: where the crowdut sing tomorrow problematic. I have something I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not going to say shameful but definitely vulnerable to admit,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: which is that when Titanic came out in theaters, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: saw it five times, and the original release, the original release,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I saw it five times. And how old were you?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I was nine and I saw it five times. The
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: first time I saw with my mom, and then after
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: that she was like, you're on your own. So the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: most visceral memory I have of seeing it is I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: went with my brother, my brother who's two years younger
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: than me, so he would have been seven, and totally
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: didn't get what was going on. And I was sobbing
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the whole movie. And at the end, after the movie ended,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: we were outside of the movie theater waiting for my
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: mom to pick us up, sobbing, and this elderly couple,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this like old woman came over to be like, little boy,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: are you okay? You know she didn't know, and I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was like, it was, It's just such a sad movie
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that honestly sounds a lot like your experience of watching Coco,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: which I think you've counted on the show before. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I just can't remember. Yes, Um, I do have a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: propensity for crying so loudly in an after movies that
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: people need to check on me. Stranger alright, complete strangers
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: are like, are you okay? Girl? You know I am
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a cancer. I'm a crier and nothing gets me like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a melodramatic movie. And what is more melodramatic? Then we
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: told you this was melodrama, as Lord sang on her
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen album Melodrama. Um, yeah, Titanic really is
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the perfect blending of a romantic melodrama and an action
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: disaster movie, like perfectly, like if they had a child,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like the absolute best even split of a film in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: those two ways, and like each of them kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in conversation with them, like propping up the other, because
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you could have made a Titanic movie that's all about
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just like the disaster of it, but then you would
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be missing the human element and you could make this
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like schmaltzy romance movie, but it wouldn't have the high
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: stakes of the Titanic sinking. So I do think bringing
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: those two together is what makes this like a perfect film,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And the love story is what lets you feel this
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: kind of larger than life tragedy in a really human way,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and like that their personal tragedy makes the huge scale
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of the Titanic itself feel even more tragic. I was,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other movies that are also
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: like one part romance one part disaster film, Like Hunger
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Games is like, I guess, more dystopian than it is disaster. Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and it's also not a romance. I mean it does.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It has a love triangle in it, but it's not
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: what it's about. But the love triangle takes is in
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the entire trilogy. I think it's a little but it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: not centered the way it isn't in Titanic because its Titanic.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What people think about is not, Oh, King Kong, that's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a love story. I don't think Peter Jackson said it
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: was a love story, But I'm talking about like, when
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you leave Titanic, you don't you think about the love story?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Did you like King Kong? Talk about another three hour movie?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Really, I will say it's very good.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Jack Black eight, He really does he play King Kong? No,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he plays like you know the scientists that that you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know understands King Kong, that who has the love story
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Jack Black and King Kong. I'm sure there's fan fiction about.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think they loves to or as King Kong and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Naomi Watts. I think it's I think there's a I
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: don't actually remember, but I do just have a very
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: vivid memory of Peter Jackson talking about how much he
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: loves King Kong and that is a love story. Um
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is Peter Jackson British? No, he know, he's from New Zealand.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Was like the whole the whole thing. Oh right, yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that's why tellphone Anyways, Titanic. Um. I was not allowed
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to watch Titanic growing up, obviously, but we really devastated.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It's weirdest, like in our household, like there could not
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: be like a runchier movie, Like like in my mind
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it was the most r rated, most scandalous thing I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: could possibly go see because of Kate Winslet's boobs, because
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of well I didn't know why at the time, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: looking back, looking back, because because of the boobs, like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the sex scene is like like really really p g
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Like all you see is her hands. I mean it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: very visceral, but you don't see anything, you know what
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, And you see them kind of like shuddering
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on each other and and you know, like it is
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: kind of clear that in that relationship, Jack is the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: bottom because he's the one who is much more like
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: winded by the whole situation. He like collapses on top
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of her. And um, yeah, Kate is definitely the topic. Also,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: like they are. I think they're a T for TA couple, right,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you were telling me this, and I feel like, um,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like you know, I would, I would ask
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you to provide evidence and our support. Okay, okay, I will,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you will, I will provide me some some backing. So
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: some of this is so some of this is supported
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: by producer Phoebe who found an article that was written
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: about this whole thing. Um, the article neither of us
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: have read. This theory is this theory is not mine.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I've definitely always felt that there was their
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Their vibe was very tee for tea, which I see immediately.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: But one of the things that was specifically called out
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, I do think Leo of this era, like
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: teen dreamboat Leo on the cover of Tiger Beet magazine,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: is really giving like a year on T energy, maybe
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: even less than a year. I think a year. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: think a year long enough for the voice to drop
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit um like post top surgery. And that's
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: one of the things is that you never see him
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: shirtless in the movie. Yeah, there we go, because you
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to see you because otherwise you would see
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the topic. Jack and Rose very chosen names. I'm sorry,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean not really really coming for me, but they are.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: They're chosen names. I mean, Jack is a really hot name.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like that must have been it probably, I'll
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: bet you those were two of the most popular names,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like absolutely, like like kids who now are what like
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: twenty there are all Rose. Well, actually they've all transitions
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: for the Jackson Jack. Um, I was there? Um, did
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you have the VHS box set? Girl and My boy?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That I mean the movie that came in three VHS?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I know its two VH. Sorry. I remember so vividly
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the day that I went to the mall to buy
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the box set of Titanic and I went home and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I watched it while sitting on the bed that my
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: ex stepdad's grandma died on, and watched the movie twice
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in a row, and then probably watch it like every
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: day after school when I got home stick in the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: head and now for a year and I I And
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just the movie for me, so like Titanic
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: mania was such a thing. Okay, you had the paraphernalia.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I had the paraphernalia. I had a book about the movie.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I had a book about the shipwreck. I asked for
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a model of it for Hanuka and got it and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: built about like a fifteenth of it and then completely
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: abandoned it and just sat in sat in my closet.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Um I I was. I was more obsessed with the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: movie than with the ship, and like the story itself,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: although I do like other you know, Titanic associated media,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like I love that Titanic the Titanic sinking is the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: inciting incident of Downtown Abbey. I didn't know this either,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And I mean, my mind is blowing because I've never
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: seen down Natty Well. I didn't he really need you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: really need to change that it's about the Titanic for
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: some reason. But that's like, I mean, I feel like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the Titanic is like nerd ship. Like the fact that
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: James Cameron. Another fact that you turned me onto that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I had no idea was that James Cameron was a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: marine biologist or he was not a marine biologist, but
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he was fascinated with the bottom of the ocean. Um
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he worked as an explorer. Well he he you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: was a very rich director after the success of Terminator
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and Aliens, and he started doing all this underwater exploration
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and a lot of the footage of the Titanic that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: in the movie are from his And that's why the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Bill Paxton character in the movie like is in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: movie because he is basically a self insert of James
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Cameron and literally, like in a deleted scene, hooks up
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: with Um James Cameron's ex wife, who was who plays
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the granddaughter of Old Rose. I'm shook to find out
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that there are deleted scenes, honestly because this man needed
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: an editor and I need more. I wish the deleted
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: scenes were on the movie. I think it could be longer.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: No it I feel like a third of it could
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: have been a chop chop chopped or honestly, if it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: were made today, it would just be a limited series.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It would be it would have been a great limited series.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: It would be. I mean that's basically what Downtown abou
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Ish I would like to I would like a limited
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: series that's centered around Kathy Bates, the uncloppable Molly Brown.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Well that is actually and we have to get to Kathy.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But I have to say, like, the thing that is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: really cool about the world building of the movie is
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that the Titanic is in and of itself an ecosystem
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: that you only peel away a few layers of by
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: way of the characters that you follow around. But if
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it were a mini series, you really would get to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: dive into so many different parts of the boat and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so many different like people that kind of make this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: thing happen. It would be very Downton Abbey. It would
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: be very because down to like the whole point of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Downton Abbey is like it's about the the the tension
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and the differences between the upstairs and the downstairs, the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: masters and the servants. And I think that's what um
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: something that's like I like Titanic obviously as a movie
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like does reckon with class, Like that's what the whole
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: love story is about. But you're right in that, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: think like it's a really great setting for a longer
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: piece of fiction because you could investigate all of these
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: different people, like you know, the people, the first class people,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the people in steer Ridge, the people who
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: are working on the boat. How long were they at
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: sea before they crashed? Um, I want to say like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: ten days? Okay on April twelve. I would love to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: watch a mini series that was about those ten days.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And they could all just be about gossip, like literally,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like intracommunal, like Titanic, like class Woul should barely be
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the gilded age? Yes on a boat. Yeah, well not
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the guild age, because that is like not a good
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: TV show. But like, get out of here, baby, you
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: have said verbatim that it's not good like you. The
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: first couple of episodes were a little boring, but by
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the end of the season it was incredible, but incredible
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: in a background television No, no, incredible and I was
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: on the edge of my seat glued to the TV.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Really yes, well maybe I will. And it's and it
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: was created and written by Julian Fellows, who also created
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and wrote down Too Abbey, So she must have been upset.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Was she obsessed with the titan Titanic too? I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: that the reason the Titanic sinking is is was useful
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: as a plot device in Downton Abbey. And I think
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: why a lot of artists, like James Cameron other people
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: find it interesting. Is because it does feel like a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: cultural shift, and like, um, it does kind of signal
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the end of and the end of of of a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: period in you know, society for sure. Like it is
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: kind of like the end of like the Gilded Age
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and like the Edwardian era UM, and it kind of
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: ushers in a new age UM. And it like literally
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: all of these rich people dying you know, at sea
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: at like at this during this um you know, kind
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: of like the most at the time, like the biggest
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: manifestation of opulence and arrogance, you know, because it was
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: like the Ship of dreams. It was like the biggest
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: ship ever made. It was unsinkable. And that like the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: gag that that ship sunk on a maiden voyage while
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: all of the some of the richest, most famous people
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: in the world were on board. Is like that's why
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it's such an enduring tragedy, is because it is like
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a crystallization of, you know, the arrogance of man. So
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the Titanic basically was this generation's fire Festival. It's not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a perfect metaphor because I think like fire Festival was
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like was a scam, and the Titanic was not necessarily
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a scam. It was just like, well it scammed a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: lot of people, was theirs. It was just kind of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like a gross miscalculation, whereas Fire Festival like was actually
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. Well, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: mean the Titanic was clearly not built properly, like very
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Boeing seven kind of stick. Like that's a little bit
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: of a scam. They did scam people. Yeah, where's the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: wors the inventing and a miniseries about like the girl
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: boss who made this? I love that it has to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: be a woman. That's that's why we have all these
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: girl Boss TV shows. It's like it's just misogyny. Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like if if the Titanic existed, you know today,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like the top of that would be like influencers, you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, influencers and like George W. Bush,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: who else would be up there? Just rich people, rich people,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the Headid's real housewife. Maybe. I don't think the Kardashian
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of the house eyes
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: are even rich enough to be like on the top
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of the type. Yeah, well maybe the Beverly Hills girls yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: or the Dubai girls. The Dubai girls, Yeah, yeah, they would,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But who wants to be on a boat for that long?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Like the the idea of traveling by boat? Do you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: get sea sick? I do get sea sick on like
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: extended trips. I've only been on one cruise. I don't
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: remember why my parents didn't and we might have gotten
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like a group on or something. But I remember enjoying
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the novelty of a cruise, but like mostly being disgusted
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: by everything I lost. I lost my virginity on a cruise. No, ye,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you lost your virginity at seat I know, just like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: just like Jack and Rose and I did think about
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that while it was happening. Yeah, and it was who
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: was it? What was the circumstance? How have we never
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: talked about this on a podcast about virginity? So it
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: was New Year's Eve? No, it was not New Year's Eve.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I was a senior in high school and I was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: had like made friends with these kids who were on
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the cruise, and we were all like in a hotel.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: We were all in one of our rooms, and there
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: was one other gay kid, and so the two straight
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: couples we were with started like hooking up in their
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: respective beds, because that's just like what teenagers do when
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they're hanging out. It's like, well, like we're all going
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to hook up in the same room because like we
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: don't have anywhere else to go, and so the gay
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: can I kind of looked at each other and we're like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I guess we should leave um. And then we were
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: like we hadn't been into each other the whole trip,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: but it's it's it's a default. It's yeah, and also
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you know the romance of being New Year's Eve if
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: we were and we couldn't go back to either of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: our rooms because I was sharing a room with my brother.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He was sharing a room with like someone else in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: his family. So we had to go to a bathroom
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and fuck in one of the stalls, and he used
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: hand soap as lube, yes, and it was like so
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: painful and uncomfortable, but I did your asshole was squeaky clean.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I was squeaky clean, and I do think I might
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: have like done hand on the side of the bathroom. Rose, Like, Rose,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: is that why you have not? Why do you have
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: your name? Rose? Is this? So that is how I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: lost my virginy? I never spoke to this boy again.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: He was very cute though he looked like um, he
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: looked like Jason Biggs from American Pie. Wow. So that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was my sort of Titanics. And then the boat sank
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: an iceberg in the boat sank, Wow, But I survived
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: because I got into the life boat with the women
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and children. Do you think if we were on the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Titanic in and we tried to get on one of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the life boats with the women and children, do you
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: think they would let us on? No? I don't think so. Well,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I mean they might let me on because they'll be like, well,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: here's a man. But that's they wouldn't have because children.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah. Oh. In my head, I just immediately
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: assumed that all the men get the privilege of getting on.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Then that's the river someone happened. It's the what's the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: one circumstance in which the patriarchy like doesn't right? Right?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But that I mean, rich guys still got their own
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: boats though, Because you think I would if they would
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: have just assumed I was like I was fish, Yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I think I would have gotten on the boat. I mean, yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I guess it would depend I would depend on a
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: few different things. But you know, I wouldn't have left
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you behind. I would have stayed on the boat with you,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: just like Ross I would have. I would have gotten
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: on the boat and then I would have had that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: moment I was like, I can't leave them behind, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I would have jumped onto the ship. But then I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: probably would have like missed and fallen into water and die.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I know, oh my god. Honestly, like disaster movies, like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: really like like I had a lot of existential terror
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: around because of disaster movies when I was a kid.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Um we had this there's this like novel slash TV
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: series that's really popular among Christians called Left Behind. Yes,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I've never read it, but I remember every time I
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: went into a bookstore when I was a kid, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: would see them and the covers are very much giving
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: like young adults sci fi fantasy. Yeah, and so I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: would so I would always be like, is this something
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I should be reading? Is this like a vampire romance
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: or something? And for those of you that don't know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it's about the rapture. It's about the rapture of our
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Lord and Savior. I've never I don't remember ever finishing
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the books, but I actually have a very vivid This
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: is a really great Margot memory of when my sister
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: started reading this series. I remember her being very affective
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: by it. And one night my mom was like, princesso Francisco,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: come come into Medissa's room and I was like, okay,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And I come in and my sister is sobbing uncontrollably,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, what's going on?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: There is everything okay? And my sister has like the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Left Behind, like the Left Behind book, like the first one,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like in her lap or whatever, and and um, she's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: crying because the book is horrific and like really scary
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and about the end of the world and how if
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you're a sinner you're going to die basically yeah. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: my my mom was like, your sister has decided to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: accept Lord and Savior into her heart and she she's
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: chosen a path of Christ. Isn't that such good news?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And I was like, my my sister is literally crying.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: She's like, aren't you so happy? And I was like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: so this book enacted psychological terror to trick my sister,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and that was the whole point of them. Yes, literally
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: there's propaganda. They're literally propagandic It so fucked um. But yeah, no,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I wish there was like a basically what the Titanic.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I wish there was like a teen book series about
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the Titanic. There probably is. We need a gay Titanic story.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I would love. I mean, this is what I'm saying
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: about the mini series is like, well, I mean there's
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: there's so many different stories. I mean there are lots
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of like in fan fiction, there's lots of Titanic A
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: use alternate universe. So it's like these two characters but
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they're on the Titanic. I've definitely very Potter. Yeah, Draco
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Harry on the Titanic. I've definitely I've actually definitely read
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that before. Stupid I hate that. Oh my god. Okay,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: so some of my favorite parts of the movie, Okay,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: favorite favorite line reading, So like they're definitely like when
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Rose gets out of the car at the beginning, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: like she has the hot on and she looks up
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: at the type Titanic and then it doesn't look bigger
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: than the Maretania and then um, you know, she has
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: some some banter with Billy Zane, who plays Cal her
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: her fiance, and he says you can be blase about
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: something's Rose, but not about Titanic love that love that one.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Also when Rose and her mom are fighting about like
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: being poor and Rose's mom is tightening her corset and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they're fighting and Rosco's careful mother, you'll give yourself a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: nose bleed, which is a scene that I reenacted with
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Rebecca Moore on the set of The Cocktail Story is
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Poor and that I was in. Oh no, no, it
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was with Sophie. Sophie was lacing up my corset. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: love that. I mean, any scene in any cultural object
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: where a woman is putting another woman into a corset
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is a movie that I want to watch. The Caribbean.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We're just going a cut breeze. Were she saying it
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: like through her teeth. And then because Kire Nightley does
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: have the same voice as Sean Connery, so she says
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: like you have no shunch of decentcy just you can
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you can hear her underbite, and she faints because of
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the corset because that's why she falls into the oceans
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: because her corset is so tight. Well, she actually was
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: physically injured from that scene. She I think she like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: broke a rib or something like that, but she did
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it so gracefully. Yeah, and she was seventeen years old.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: How old was she? She was? She was young. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: also think I think Kate Winslett was really young when
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: she made Titanic could be in Partan, but Kira could
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: not be in Titanic. Wait, no, Kira could actually do
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Titanic beautifully. Kate Winslet she turned twenty one while filming
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the movie, and Leo turned two, so they were really young,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: really young. Do you think do you think Kira could
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: be in Titanic as Rose? Yeah? No, I mean yes,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I certainly think that Kira has that sort of I's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: not Kira who. Kira has that like overlay of real
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: t with like a like a strength underneath, and she
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: could definitely do it. Yeah, that that that kind of um,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a tenacity, a spunk he has that spunk Rose Rose
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: definitely has spunk um And you know, like it's sad like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: let's not forget that the Jack and Rose meat because
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Rose is about to kill herself. Yeah, she's about to
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: jump off the back of the boat and get shredded
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: by the propellers. I forgot about that. Very dark Yeah
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it is, and that it feels like it feels like
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of a room screaming that
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: no one here's that's kind of the beginning of the holiday.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: To do you remember when she sticks her head and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: no point, no point. I love that scene. I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: been there a girl. Another of my favorite scenes, which
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I did think was really discussing at the time, is
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the scene where Jack teachers Rose has a spit spit
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: like a man. Well yeah, I mean, and they really
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: like Hakka lugi and then he swallows it. There really is,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: which is kind of hot. Now it is hot. I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: remember it being hot. The movie could not exist without
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: gender roles, like the gender in this movie is so strong,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: which I think actually is an appeal to the movie.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I I really love the hard line that is and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that honestly enforces your teeth for te totally. I mean,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: she's running around like like that scene where she's running
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: around the bottom of the ship as it's full full
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: of water and she's in a fucking gown, in the gown,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the gown, but she won't because she's a lady. But
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: it's such a gag and she looks so good. And also,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: interestingly enough, like the screen, I think the story wants
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: you to see the ways that Kate. You know, Kate's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: character really has a lot more like man tendencies, Like
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: she has a tenacity, she has that you know, confidence,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: she she wants to bring into those spaces. And Leo
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: is like very sensitive and like very dreamy and like
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: they like that that that that duality, the swappiness and
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the t for tinas she does. She kind of feels
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: like the heroine and he feels like the damns the heroine.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: He that is so tea all the way. I wonder
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like was that intentional or no? No, I mean like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: they're there. But you know, it doesn't matter what movie
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: you make, there will be you know, seven hundred term
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: papers about why it's queer or why the gender roles
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: have been Titanic is. You know, I wouldn't say that
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it's queer. I will say that it's like gay canon
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: because of the further surrounding it and how much we
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: love it. And you know, some things are so heterosexual
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that they become gay. Yeah, they have to turn back
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: around and become gay. And I think that so much
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of the lead up there's a lot of suspended romantic tension,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and I think that that build up is also very gay.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: There's a lot that comes with the like when are
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: they going to kiss? Oh my god, how they're falling
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in love? Oh my god, it's happening, like swept away
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: my flying machine, I'm flying Jack? What is I'm flying?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: It's the little song he sings to her when they're
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: on the on the back on the world. Yeah, okay,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: oh god, that was like so inescapable like that, just
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: like the culture surrounding Titanic. I remember reading Mad magazine
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and it was the whole Titanity magazine. Allowed to read
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that growing up because it's kind of raunchy, right, yeah
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it is. Um well, I would read Nickelodeon magazine, which
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: probably had some Titanic stuff in it. I had a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: replica Heart of the Ocean, of course he did. And
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I was it expensive or when it was cheap, and
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I might still have one because I was Old Rose
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: for Halloween a couple of years ago. Was one of
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: my last successful Halloween costume. Really good Halloween cost thank you.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I did the old age makeup myself, right, Oh I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: love that, by which I mean I just didn't wear makeup. Yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you watched one YouTube tutorial and oh yeah I love that. No,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I know, I did actual old age makeup and that
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: was I was djaying, So I was like DJ old
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Rose that night. That was fun. I love that we
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: need to bring you out of DJ retirement. I've been
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: advocating for this. I feel like at our next our
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: next show really needs to have what was your DJ name?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Just Rose? It was just Rose, DJ Rose. What was
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: your vibe as a DJ? Um techno? It was like
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it was like um Berlin's sex party me um uh pop.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask if you played pop. Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I played like really trolley remixes of pop songs like
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I would like I would play like a sex party
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: at a dungeon and not like five Am. I would
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: play a remix of come Clean, the Hillary Duff song.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: That's really good. That's a really good yeah. So that
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: was That was kind of my DJ five I'm sure
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I have a my Heart Will Go On remix somewhere which,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: oh my god, my Heart will go On. We were
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: remaking Titanic. Who would do the song? We're thinking, Okay,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we're thinking torch song but mainstream. I feel like Adele
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: is obvious because mainstream, but like think about it in
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the nineties, like Celine Dion was not necessarily at her peak,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: but in the late nineties she wasn't. She was around,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: but she well around in the United States and Canada.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: She is the most famous person of that. Okay, so
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: actually I do think Adele, you're right. Yeah, to me,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it's getting Dell. But who else? A Delphie is too
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: obvious because she did the James Bond movie too. She
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: didn't a Bond song, Like, who else would it be?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Like a tor a contemporary Torch song. It's not Phoebe
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Bridgers to all, but she's actually so mainstream now maybe no,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't. Can you imagine Bridgers doing a Titanic song?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Actually if they? Here's the thing though, is like if
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: it were made today, it would probably like Jack Antonov
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: would like produce the soundtrack, and then it would be
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: like all the that's not melodramatic enough. You know. There
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was a Titanic musical and I saw it when I
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: was a kid. Yeah, it was bad. What was it?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I think that some of the music I think that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: it is it is regarded as a good piece of art.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't. I think it was kind
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of a flop, although it might have won best musical
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: at the Tony's. I'm not sure and I won't look
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: it up, but I did see it because, as I said,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I was obsessed with Titanic and this was like still
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: in the years Titanic Mania, and like, I'm still obsessed
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: with Titanic. I I'm not saying that my name is
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Rose because of Titanic, but it is certainly a contributing factor.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would absolutely be rewatching if it was
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: an hour shorter. I will probably watch it tonight, like
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: while I'm repacking for a fire Island. Hopefully, oh my god,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: hopefully the ferry doesn't sink. No, but we should do.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: We should do um King of the World on the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Fire Island ferry. I'm just imagining us in the middle
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: of whatever. I don't know. Harbor is between Sayville and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the Pines on a floating door being like road, and
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the water is actually only like six ft deep. Yeah,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and there's like a twink like drowning and sludge on
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the slide. That's like help If the boat sinks, though,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: what are we going to have to float on? I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: guess like a case of lacroix. Someone brought a palette
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: of of keylime Lacroix. Yeah, but yeah, okay, but if
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: there's not room enough for both of us on it
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: on the Lacroix palette, who's surviving. I mean, I feel
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: like I have more survivalist instincts than you. No offense,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Oh so you would push me off and kill me. No,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. I was just saying I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: have more survivalist instincts. But I do think, yes, you
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: would push me off and kill me. Well, the reality
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: is that if we did, if we have our ferry
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: wrecked between Sayville and and Fire Island, I do think
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you could swim to shore and survive. I think we
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I think we both could could make it to shore.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I think we both could. I have definitely on Fire
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Island been. There was one time on my birthday where
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I was so high on ketamine that I went to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the ocean and swam out really really far. And then
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: that's kind of scared. And then realized once I got
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that far out that all my energy is gone and
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I did not know how I was going to get
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: back to shore. And that's so dumb, right, And I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was so high, I was so high, but so stupid.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just floating in the middle. That's the kind of
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: dumb ship I used to do. I was so high
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and I just like I just kind of like gave
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: it up to God, and eventually the waves did bring
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: me back to shore. Honestly, and honestly, nothing feels better
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: than being in the ocean on Kenemine. It is the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: best feeling. I feel like it's so even if both
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: of us but not when you think you're about to die. Yeah,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: even if both of us have the kind of um
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: ability to swim back to shore. I feel like the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: weight of like all of my toiletries would would would
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: sink me to the ocean. Oh so you're still holding
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: onto your bags And I mean it's a lot of girl.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: The combined cost of my toiletries when I travel hundreds
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Yes, more than the
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: heart of the ocean. Is my heart of the ocean. Okay,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: It's like you and I did it again video. It's like, um,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I hand you like a like a Tata Harper Boister.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: It's like I thought, the old woman moisturizer alone is
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: like a hundred and twenty dollars. It was gifted to
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: me Okay, so you should be okay, letting it sink
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of the whatever, Sayville Harbor. But I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: think in this scenario we never would imagine. I think
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: in that Titanic as well, they never would have imagined
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: that they would die. They never thought I would draw.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I'm keeping my phone because it's waterproof, and that's that
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: everything else can sin. Phones actually really aren't waterproof. And
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I learned that the hard way in Mexico City. I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: mean not Mexico City, in Mexico when I was there. Um,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't know what would weigh you down,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: all your skims, um my baggage, not my my metaphor
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: emotional baggage, because I'd be like, okay, well if this
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is I mean, this is a way out, So why not? Okay, okay?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And this is great because you know Joel has already
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: you know, laid the ground of the class warfare in
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Fire Islands. So we have that component of the Titanic
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: allegory set for us. Um. Yeah, cool. So we're going
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to green light this, Yeah, we are going to I
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: hope sell I don't know, free form. No, this podcast
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: is coming to you from beyond the grave because we
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: will be dying in a boat wreck tomorrow. We have
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: plans to off the coast of Fire Island and um,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: it's been nice knowing you. Yeah, I love. Next week
• 55:26
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• 55:31
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• 55:35
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• 55:40
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• 55:45
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• 55:47
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