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Breaking the Break-Up News with Zachary Reality · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Its Ashley and Ben and Zachary Reality. Because we said
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  Speaker 3: that we were going to have him back whenever we
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  Speaker 3: had breaking news, and we have breaking breakup news.
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  Speaker 4: And Ashley, the response was incredible, Oh yes, we gotta
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  Speaker 4: have Zachary back. Because even Hannah, as we were starting
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  Speaker 4: this thing out, was like, people loved it. We love
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  Speaker 4: it. It's so much easier, better, just like cooler to talk
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  Speaker 4: about this was Zachary. So there's another good reason, right,
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  Speaker 4: it makes sense And the response.
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  Speaker 3: Was good, Yeah, and zach It was like minutes after
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  Speaker 3: we rapped with you and both other Bachelor and Paradise
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  Speaker 3: couples go on Instagram to announce their breakups. Kat and
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  Speaker 3: John Henry call off their engagement and then so do
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  Speaker 3: Aaron and Eliza. So can you go through and tell
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  Speaker 3: us what you know?
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  Speaker 5: That was kind of crazy because it all happened in
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  Speaker 5: one day, and I don't think there's ever been a
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  Speaker 5: big domino effect this fast. Like I usually, I feel
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  Speaker 5: like couples will stay together or maybe pretend to stay
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  Speaker 5: together for at least a few months. So to have
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  Speaker 5: them all announce breakups within four days of a finale
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  Speaker 5: is pretty crazy. So we talked about Avian and Kylie
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  Speaker 5: last time, but quickly after we hung up, John Henry
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  Speaker 5: and Kat posted a mutual breakup statement, so they did
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  Speaker 5: it together, said that they were going their own ways
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  Speaker 5: because of career, and then hours later Aaron posted an
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  Speaker 5: Instagram story saying, with much love and respect, we mutually
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  Speaker 5: decided to break up. And Eliza has not posted anything
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  Speaker 5: other than her being in Greece, so she's going rogue.
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  Speaker 2: Oh huh, so.
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  Speaker 6: That's the latest thing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, the Cat and John Henry thing interesting about career
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  Speaker 3: because she's a nurse, he says in a caption which
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  Speaker 3: he uh followed up with yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He followed up by saying that.
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  Speaker 6: Like she's a nurse practitioner.
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  Speaker 3: A nurse practitioner, and that like he doesn't want any
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  Speaker 3: like hate thrown anyway, you know, it's like appreciates the
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  Speaker 3: kindness and all that. But is she's going to continue
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  Speaker 3: her career as a nurse practitioner?
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  Speaker 2: Like can't you do it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's why people were immediately like this does not
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  Speaker 5: make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Also, isn't she sounds like she's moving to San Diego
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  Speaker 3: to be part of that Bachelor of San Diego crew
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  Speaker 3: to be closer to La.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, I'm not like.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're just like probably weren't compatible enough and
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  Speaker 3: they want a little bit of an out.
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  Speaker 2: And that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: He's obviously going to stay in Virginia where he is
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  Speaker 3: going to continue doing his underwater my.
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  Speaker 6: Welding, welding, Ben, do you know what that is? A welding?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Can you can you explain it to the gays and
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  Speaker 5: the girls who might not understand.
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  Speaker 4: The gays and the girls? Is this what they called
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  Speaker 4: man's plaining?
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  Speaker 6: Like like sometimes sometimes we meet it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I got in trouble for that before.
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  Speaker 6: We're on your side this time.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah. I mean his job is crazy. Right
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  Speaker 4: when I heard this, I wanted him to talk about
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  Speaker 4: more and more about what he did for a profession
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  Speaker 4: because I grew up in a welding family. My grandfather
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  Speaker 4: was a welder in the Navy and so he was
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  Speaker 4: always welding. You put on the you know, the big mask.
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  Speaker 4: People know what that is. And also I'm from Northern
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  Speaker 4: Indiana and we have a massive, like you know, welding industry.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to our v's and trailers that we
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  Speaker 4: are manufacturing in Northern Indiana, and so I'm very familiar
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  Speaker 4: in short, in the simplest terms, when you see metal
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  Speaker 4: being put together and you see kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: cock line like you would see like where you like
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  Speaker 4: in a windowsill or you know, in a house, they're
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  Speaker 4: actually taking and they're using a super hot flame to
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  Speaker 4: melt these metals together, and it's a it's an art form.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's very dangerous because you're dealing with a
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  Speaker 4: lot of gases, a lot of hot flames, and then
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  Speaker 4: also you're usually doing it in a confined environment and
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  Speaker 4: so there's a lot of like dirt and smoke and
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  Speaker 4: everything that comes off of it. It's just very impressive.
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  Speaker 4: And the fact that he does it underwater is that's
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  Speaker 4: the crazier.
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  Speaker 3: Taking Like, that's so crazy because he's basically building bridges
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  Speaker 3: and tunnels and that scares the out of me.
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  Speaker 4: What that John Henry's the one doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Or like all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, how do they make those structures? And there's
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  Speaker 3: a picture of the two of them out like right
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  Speaker 3: next to what I think is the Chessmig Bay tunnel
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  Speaker 3: bridge and that thing that structure is like the scariest
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  Speaker 3: thing you'll ever see in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Google it. It's like a twenty two mile bridge and tunnel.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bridge that turns into a tunnel midway through
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  Speaker 3: and then goes back.
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  Speaker 2: Into a bridge. It's freaky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I mean that's it, so long story short,
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  Speaker 4: it's a very impressive profession, one that we should all
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  Speaker 4: be like kind of an awe of. And he took
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  Speaker 4: it like one step further by doing it underwater.
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  Speaker 6: See I'm glad, I asked.
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  Speaker 5: And there's like a passion for everybody, Like I would
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  Speaker 5: never think to do a job like that, but everyone
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  Speaker 5: can just do whatever they want.
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  Speaker 6: Like that is just insane to me.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, like we were saying, she is a nurse practitioner,
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know how their career goals necessarily like
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  Speaker 5: got in the way if maybe neither of them wanted
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  Speaker 5: to move. She did actually comment.
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  Speaker 4: On my mind.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it sounds like, yeah, she did actually comment
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  Speaker 5: on my TikTok this morning, and she said, psa, we
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  Speaker 5: were still together when they told us we were not
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  Speaker 5: having a reunion, so they broke up pretty recently.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting because here's one of the things from an
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  Speaker 4: insight source. Won't mention names here, you know there was.
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  Speaker 4: Now people are upset on the kind of the production
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  Speaker 4: and work side that there wasn't a reunion, because they're saying, wait,
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  Speaker 4: this would help everything make more sense. If all these
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  Speaker 4: couples are going to break up, you know, a reunion
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  Speaker 4: would help explain it all. Or the show could explain it.
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  Speaker 4: But they canceled a reunion, or they maybe never planned
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  Speaker 4: one and they later told the cast that there wasn't, Zachary,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's an important point. Do you know any
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  Speaker 4: details about kind of how they are when they decided
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  Speaker 4: to have a reunion.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't know anything about that. I know that
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  Speaker 5: the fans are pissed off that there's no reunion. I
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  Speaker 5: know that the reunion played out on social media for
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  Speaker 5: all of us to watch, So that's what we're here
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  Speaker 5: to talk about. So I guess that they didn't want one.
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  Speaker 5: We can speculate why. Maybe because there was a Golden
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  Speaker 5: Bachelor reunion, they don't want to do two so close
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  Speaker 5: to back. Maybe there was no happy couples, Maybe there
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  Speaker 5: wasn't enough contestants with a following or clout. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know what the decision why it was made. But I
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  Speaker 5: think a lot of the fans would have liked one.
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  Speaker 5: And we don't care that there's no happy couples. We
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  Speaker 5: just want to see all the stories be told and
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  Speaker 5: get closure on the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, on one end, it's like a great season to
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  Speaker 3: have one, so you can get the explanation. But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, maybe they were concerned that it would
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  Speaker 3: look bad that they go from engagements to a reunion
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  Speaker 3: where no one's together. It would have been just see though,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been juicy, and that's and that's part
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  Speaker 3: of like, yeah, that's that's part of that's a huge
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  Speaker 3: part of it.
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  Speaker 4: Can you I mean not to like capitalize on people's
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  Speaker 4: sadness sadness, but can you imagine Even and Kylie sitting
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  Speaker 4: on a stage together at a reunion?
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  Speaker 3: That would be see yeah, like if I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: take out the morality of this, that's great TV.
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  Speaker 6: But but it would have got away.
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  Speaker 2: We wouldn't have known.
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  Speaker 5: Would it would have filmed two weeks in advance? Yes,
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  Speaker 5: And then she only found out because she posted online.
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  Speaker 5: And that's how exactly, that's how the infidelities, you know,
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  Speaker 5: came to her mostly right Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Another scandal, or so says you know the hardcore fans
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  Speaker 3: on social media, is that at the end of the episode,
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  Speaker 3: ring all like the where are they now recaps, they
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  Speaker 3: left out Becca and Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, did you realize?
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  Speaker 4: No, I didn't realize. I mean I didn't realize it
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  Speaker 4: until now because I never remember.
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  Speaker 2: Who didn't realize.
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  Speaker 3: There they go through every married couple from Bachelor and
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  Speaker 3: Paradise and what has happened to them recently. There's so
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  Speaker 3: many babies and so many marriages of the past year
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  Speaker 3: or two, and then they didn't mention Becca and Thomas
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  Speaker 3: getting married and having a baby.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my theory.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't have one, so I want to hear you.
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  Speaker 3: They've reached out. Sorry if I'm like seeming winded, I
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  Speaker 3: have a cold. I cannot breathe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So they reached out to us last first week of
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  Speaker 3: November to get the picture any they've won in many
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  Speaker 3: pictures of Jared Dawson and I together for the end recap.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm assuming that they needed to have your approval
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  Speaker 3: on just being part of the end recap, and that
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  Speaker 3: they needed a picture that you submitted on your own
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  Speaker 3: behalf so either they didn't reach out to Becka Thomas
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  Speaker 3: or my theory is that they did and they did
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  Speaker 3: not want to share because they feel like they have
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  Speaker 3: been wronged by the show as of late when he got.
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  Speaker 2: Dumbed from the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting because I know that they are not happy about that.
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  Speaker 4: They have been public about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way they just didn't ask no.
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  Speaker 5: And it's also like important to note that they weren't
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  Speaker 5: just picking couples who got engaged on TV, because they
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  Speaker 5: even picked Noah and Abigail who broke up on the
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  Speaker 5: show but then got back together after. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: like a logistical.
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  Speaker 2: Thing same like it was like Jared and I were there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you guys got engaged on the show, Like
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  Speaker 5: they didn't give the show their engagement or anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's that's very interesting because Becka and Thomas have I've
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  Speaker 4: really had, like, outside of the breakup from the podcast,
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  Speaker 4: a really beautiful year one that's been really exciting to follow.
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  Speaker 4: And it's been really fun to see their relationship. You know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously we've talked about it, but I did Bachelor Live
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  Speaker 4: on stage with Becca. I think she's terrific and to
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  Speaker 4: see this kind of like new season of her life
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  Speaker 4: come in full display in front of us. It's been
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  Speaker 4: really fun for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it makes it really sad that they weren't
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  Speaker 2: part of that.
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  Speaker 6: She's she's not your ex, right, You guys didn't overlap.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, we never We never dated. We just co
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  Speaker 4: hosted together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: She's with Garrett during the tour and I was with Jess,
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  Speaker 4: So we were kind of both and I guess at
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  Speaker 4: the time what we thought were our long term relationships.
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  Speaker 4: Only one of those survived and the other one ended
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  Speaker 4: up really good for Becca, she's doing great. But the
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  Speaker 4: here's the interesting part actually, and the only way I
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  Speaker 4: crush your theory is I think that because they're upset
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  Speaker 4: because it's aired, I just know Becca well enough to
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  Speaker 4: think that she would have said something publicly, like if
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  Speaker 4: if there was any hurt feelings like the way they
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think Becca would have said something because
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  Speaker 4: I just don't. I think she's kind of like lighting
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  Speaker 4: it all on fire.
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  Speaker 3: You would have she would have said something because she
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  Speaker 3: was hurt by being excluded from it. Yeah, But the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing is I think that she excluded herself.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you think she chose to Oh, yeah, sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, I don't think sorry, I should have clarified
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  Speaker 3: that I don't think that the show is annoyed at
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  Speaker 3: her and didn't ask her. I think they asked, and
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  Speaker 3: then Becca said, no, thank you don't want to be
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  Speaker 3: part of your thing anymore interesting?
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  Speaker 4: That would make sense.
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  Speaker 2: And then also Yea.
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  Speaker 5: And Thomas, they don't like, they're not posting their baby online.
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  Speaker 5: They're not showing his face, so I think.
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  Speaker 3: That's one thing, but I don't they could still give
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  Speaker 3: a picture without the baby's face.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So then at the end thing they also said, right,
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  Speaker 3: Rachel didn't want to be any part of this recap.
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  Speaker 3: Rachel didn't have didn't want to have any part to
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  Speaker 3: do with this recap. I thought that was funny. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh haha, okay. I thought they kind of
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  Speaker 3: like just made that up, kind of the way that
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  Speaker 3: they make up the job titles, you know, and all
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  Speaker 3: those like little things in the cry on or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it's called. But then there was like some people that
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  Speaker 3: thought like she actually was annoyed by the show and
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  Speaker 3: did not want to like give an update on her life.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: No, I think she was just trying to be funny.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, I think so too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the same Rachel who just like like it's
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  Speaker 5: just her sense of humor.
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  Speaker 6: I think.
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  Speaker 5: I think she like makes fun of herself a lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And I was listening to your podcast when you had
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  Speaker 5: her on, and like she said, like she did Bachelor,
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  Speaker 5: Bachelor at Bachelor in Paradise, so like she gave it
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  Speaker 5: all three tries and like that's it. There's no more
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  Speaker 5: updates to have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, okay, I thought so too. But it's also a
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  Speaker 3: proof that like they everyone what was going on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so them to leave out backa in Thomas, I just
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  Speaker 3: think is massive and unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it is. I mean, she's she was such a
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  Speaker 4: great She still is a great piece of this franchise
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  Speaker 4: and one that the franchise would probably enjoy leaning on
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  Speaker 4: in terms of success stories because it was such just
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  Speaker 4: a success story for so many reasons. It was really
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  Speaker 4: the first, you know, trailblazing relationship where we've seen a
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  Speaker 4: villain end up with somebody in a happy relationship, let
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  Speaker 4: alone a lead in a happy relationship. And so, okay,
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  Speaker 4: going back to these breakups real quick, Zachary, I want
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  Speaker 4: to ask you breakups happen. They just do from the show, right,
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  Speaker 4: We're used to that. The weird part for me this
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  Speaker 4: season in the last week has been the like announcement
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  Speaker 4: of we're so happy and this is our new relationship,
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  Speaker 4: and then the breakup like the next day, and then Zachary,
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  Speaker 4: you could respond to that, but then Ashley, I want
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  Speaker 4: to hear your opinion, like, why what's happening in those
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  Speaker 4: like twenty four hours between exciting announcement posts to breakup?
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  Speaker 2: They did it.
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  Speaker 3: That was the whole thing on Friday when you weren't here,
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  Speaker 3: Like none of them made happy posts.
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  Speaker 6: Well, kat made a story.
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  Speaker 4: She made a story.
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  Speaker 2: She made a story that was a happy story.
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  Speaker 4: And Kylie and Avan had said that they were happy.
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  Speaker 5: It said just a few of my favorite memories. That's
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  Speaker 5: what the story said. And then Kylie and Avan did
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  Speaker 5: the photoshoot see memories.
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  Speaker 3: See when you go back and you can like totally
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  Speaker 3: rewrite this, you hear the words the way that they
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  Speaker 3: were supposed to be said, the memories not like my
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  Speaker 3: current life.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know that's key wording, keywording.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just feel like it's still there's
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  Speaker 4: let alone, Okay, back to it, Zachary is a happy
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  Speaker 4: post and then a breakup, like what is happening?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a celebration of making it through the
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  Speaker 5: season as a t you know, like you did it together.
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  Speaker 5: Whether it ends it positively or not. It's like a
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  Speaker 5: race to the end if you can get through the
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  Speaker 5: Bachelor process.
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  Speaker 6: So there could be that.
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  Speaker 5: It could be for the extra clout or attention. It
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  Speaker 5: could just be a way to acknowledge how you feel
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  Speaker 5: about the person.
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  Speaker 6: But a lot of things happened really fast.
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  Speaker 5: I really was not expecting all three of these couples
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  Speaker 5: to break up within a matter of four days, But
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  Speaker 5: here we are. The season will be remembered forever because
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  Speaker 5: of that.
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  Speaker 4: M Yeah. My next question for you and really the
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  Speaker 4: final one as a fan, and I would consider myself
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  Speaker 4: in that category. Does it change anything for you that
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  Speaker 4: no couples came from this season? Does it change your
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  Speaker 4: excitement towards possibly a next season or your outlook on
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  Speaker 4: this season? Do you think, as from a viewership perspective,
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  Speaker 4: is this a disappointment?
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  Speaker 5: No, Okay, I don't care. I wasn't rooting for any
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  Speaker 5: of these couples, like strongly. Had it been a couple
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  Speaker 5: of years ago, and like it was Joe and Serena,
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  Speaker 5: or like Ashley and Jared, maybe I would have been
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  Speaker 5: a lot more heartbroken. But I just felt like with
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  Speaker 5: these couples, I wasn't invested in the love story. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm just here for the resolution immediately after the show.
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  Speaker 5: We don't have to wait. There's no faking it for
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  Speaker 5: a few months, for six months. So I think that
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  Speaker 5: it still makes the season more exciting in a way
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  Speaker 5: how everything kind of ended. And I watched the show
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: for drama and for love, so it's always going to
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: be a gamble, Okay.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So I agree with him.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: You do. Yeah, I'm not like, you know, we watched
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the season. I'm not sitting here being like, goodness, gracious,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: this season was a waste.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I feel validated.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I feel validated because I felt nothing from them, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: it proves that nothing was there.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no heartbreak that we're not crying.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: We just talked Tanner Zachary, and Tanner was telling us that,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: you know, even hit for himself on the beach. He
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't see these couples working like they're not.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: They're not having the connection like I would that he
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: said he would imagine a couple who would last forever,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: having like he was confused that some of them even
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: walking off the beach together. And so I think, yeah,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: for us, it is the kind of the closure to
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: the story is you're saying, we didn't feel it and
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: maybe we were just missing it as viewers, but now
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: we're like, no, we caught on. We were right like this,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: these couples were not that strong.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's probably a lot of reasons that go
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: into it. I think Bachelor in Paradise maybe could have
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: took a year off, Like I miss it when it
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: was like the All Star cast, when it was like
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: a lot of people who made it far. Now they're
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: just throwing in people who left night one left night two,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: which is not like a problem. It doesn't make them
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: less than It just makes them not as prepared for
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: the experience at the end and like know how to
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: put your all into it. So maybe they could they
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: could have took a year off. And I think Bachelor
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: in Paradise still can't continue, but I think that they
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: could do a little bit. It could be a little
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: bit pickier with casting and maybe have some challenges thrown in.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree the cast.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Like I know, it sounds sort of bad to be like, oh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I don't really care about that person that was eliminated
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: week four.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: But Paradise used to be like where the fan favorites.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Went, where you knew pretty much everybody's name. We showed
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: up and then they threw in a couple of randoms
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: that you learned to love, but like you wanted the
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: people that you like, loved and rooted for on the
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: main show to get together with somebody else and rooted
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: for on the main show.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: And now there's none of that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: There's none of it. And I also think the element
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and maybe Ashley, I think, and what you're saying too
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: is you're just not invested. It's not that you don't care.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: These are good people, we just don't know anything about
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and we're not invested into him. I remember years in
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: the past watching Paradise from you know these and I
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: would be like, okay, let's use Ashley as an example.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Ashley's coming to the beach this year. I know the
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: personalities of so many of these people this so I
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: could see Ashley with we didn't have that this year.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: We didn't know these personalities because the only one that
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: we really tried to match make Ashley was Rachel like
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the only one that we could be like, she might
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: be into this guy because we know what she was
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: into from her season. We just don't know the personalities
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: any from during this season. I have one last statement
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: that I would love your response to an article or
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a comment that I received, and I've been thinking about it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I got it yesterday and it said that they were
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: upset with this season because they think this Bachelor in
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Paradise season did Rachel Rekia very dirty.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why, because it made me love her
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: even more.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Well sure as her as a person. However, they felt
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: bad because you have a season where you have a
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: lead come to the beach, and then you have all
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: of these other leads come down to the beach every
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: like there's so many bachelorettes that showed up this year
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: more in like a hierarchical role. Right, We're going to
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: host a date, We're going to host a conversation where
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: the show knew Rachel was going to be there, and
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it's a big deal for her to go yet and
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I think this makes her lovable because it kind of
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: makes people feel bad for her. But it was like
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: they put her beneath other bachelorettes. I think this season
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: was what the comment was saying. Yeah, I'll throw that
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: out there. I don't disagree with him now that I
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: think about it. Like it did feel like Rachel was
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: on a different you know, platform than the women showing up.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but she know, she came down as a contestant.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: The other women were in relationships Hannah Brown, Charity, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Katie was going on another show. Maybe she didn't know
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: that at the time, but like she just kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: came in to host something.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I think Rachel, yeah, she was a bachelorette, but her
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: going in as a contestant, I don't think she deserves
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: any more treatment than any other contestant there. If anything,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I feel like she got plenty of opportunities to go
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: on multiple dates. She dated like three or four guys,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: so I think her guy just wasn't there. But I
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: did like watching her this season, and I found her
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: a lot more endearing and chill than maybe in the past.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Fair Ashley, you agree, Yeah, I agree with him that
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: like she had to kind of just her pass as
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: bachelorette does not go forward when she's a cast. Okay, yeah, okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: wait before we go, before we let you go, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: do want to get back to Aaron and.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Eliza for just a split second.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, do you have any idea what their timeline could
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: have been, because I feel like, you know, they we
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: had the update on at the end of the show
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: that says they're going through some rough waters.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We'll see what this ends up.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: To me, that was kind of like they're already broken up,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and that was weeks ago that they put that together.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Probably, what do you think any any insight?
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I definitely know that they broke up like a
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: month ago at least that's kind of when I got
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the vibes from whatever I've heard. But I kind of
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: think that they maybe she went, maybe she broke up
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: with him pretty quickly after.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Do you remember when she.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Did the whole thing with Rodney and Justin She couldn't
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: make up her mind and then she had to have
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the cameras go to Baltimore because her story wasn't done.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: And then when it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Was Justin and Rodney who were talking about it on
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: a podcast and they were saying how they were like
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: making plans to see her, and she just wouldn't answer,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: and she was just hard to get a hold of,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: and like she just wasn't present. Like, so the fact
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: that she's like in Greece and she's not giving us
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: any updates, right, Like she's the only person out of
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the six people who ended in happy relationships to at
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: least que the fans in on what's going on. There's
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: no reunion, Like I'm glad that Aaron did it for
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: them because he said it was mutual. So I just
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: think Eliza is just very detached and in her and
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: just uninterested and anything Bachelor Nation. I don't even know
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: why she was there. She's just so confusing.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Her entire instagram is selfie.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, it's just a surprising like addition to the
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: beach because we knew last year was really hard on
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: her and that it you know, the show did have
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: to go literally to her house to close out the story.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: So it was just interesting to see her want agree
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: to go back and too for the show to be like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you are somebody we want back here, because yes, she's
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously a beautiful catch, a great catches, yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: but just one that maybe doesn't make doesn't help the
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: show out, would be probably the best way to say it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: When it comes to storylines.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: It's kind of funny how much she doesn't care, or
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: at least how it comes across, because it's like she
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: really gives like no fs, Like she just seems so
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: out of this world, Like she just seems like she's
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: like a traveler. She's like whimsical, like I just can't
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: really put my finger on her. But good for her,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: like in a way too, for being so uninterested that
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: she doesn't even care to comment.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: You know, she's like, you guys can figure this out
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: on your own. I'm done. Yeah, so good. Well, he Zachary,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: it's always a blast to have you here. Thanks for
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: coming on again. This will not now be the last time.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I think. Once you do it twice, we're gonna, you know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: just keep rolling this over if you ever, if you
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: keep agreeing to it. It's always fun to have you.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: But that's the updates. We got some breakups and from
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Bachelor in Paradise, no relationships still standing. The season is over.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: This is probably the last time we'll talk about this season,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: you know, until next season. We probably get familiar faces.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: But oh hey, I do have a question for you. Sorry,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Blake and Rachel, are they together?
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: No, they're just friends.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Dang.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, we might have to talk about the season again
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: if any of these people do podcasts in the next
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: week or two, because I don't know if Kylie or
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Kat are going to have like more to say.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we all hope to have them on, but we
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: also really need to know whether Blake and Kylie are
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: going to get together.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a Eileen we need to hear from Kylie.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I feel like Blake came off The Beast just with
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of just friendships and maybe some curious like romance.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Blake could be a bachelor in the future if they
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: bring someone back like they did with Ari or maybe Nick,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: like they could pull Blake.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, good for that guy. All right, Hey,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: until next time, I've been Ben, I've.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Been Ashley, and I've been Zachary.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts
• 25:29
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