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Wayne Sullivan - OMAHA- MMA Light Heavyweight · Caught on the Mike...

1:08
SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, this is caught on the mic.
1:17
SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, I am with the one, the only Omaha's favorite son, light heavyweight fighter, Wayne Sullivan.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: How the hell are you, man?
1:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm good, man.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm just uh getting ready for the big showdown.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: I tell you that you were one of my more requested fighters from uh the uh the local ranks, and I absolutely love it.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to kind of dig into your story a little bit.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: Um so without any further ado, why don't you tell me how did you get yourself into the fight game?
1:56
SPEAKER_00: Because you've been fighting since what, 2013?
1:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, somewhere around there.
2:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've been uh really fighting my whole life, so it's just that's what got me into fighting is really fighting.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: So just it came pretty fast, and then once I done it, I was addicted to it, and the police didn't show up, and I didn't get no letters in the mail.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: Stuff like that.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: So uh and then it was just like it became a big thing, you know.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: People got really excited when I was gonna fight.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so what is it that you that you bring to the table that kind of sets you apart from some of your other contemporaries?
2:33
SPEAKER_00: Myself, I mean, being me really.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have no, I mean, you see how night as and some of those guys are, you know, people love them.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Why?
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Because they're not gonna some of them guys sit in front of that camera and they pretend to be this person that they're not, or some good person, you know.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: And with guys like us, you get what you see, and uh people respect that and love that, you know, and we still help people and we're still the same guys, but just we're a little tougher.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: We're all fighters, you know.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: I try to explain to some people, no matter some guys get psyched out, like, man, that guy, you see how mean he was to me and stuff at the way in.
3:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, guess what?
3:04
SPEAKER_01: If that guy brings you flowers, he brings you a postcard, he gives you a hug, whatever, at the end of the day, they're gonna put you and him in a cage and they're gonna lock the door.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: So all that woofing and all that other stuff, it doesn't matter, you know.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: You just it's just all the politics to it.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: But is there a certain level of balance with like you know, engaging your animal instincts to get that fight out that makes you a little bit more welcomposed outside of the cage?
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Fighting helped me a lot outside the cage, big time.
3:40
unknown: Yeah.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: So, but like you said, animal instinct, you know, and animal instinct's been my sponsor for ever since I started.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: And uh people like, what do you mean?
3:49
SPEAKER_01: Like by that, like, yeah, go put a raccoon in a corner.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: Go try to trap some wild animal, and uh it's animal instinct's gonna come out.
3:57
SPEAKER_01: So I started acting, you know, all crazy, but fighting composed me to that, you know, to where I used to be in the streets and getting in fights and all that, to where, like, oh, this guy's over here is running his mouth.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, me and a guy that's training to fight another guy that's also probably a pretty bad man GM, you know, just fought each other.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you gonna do to me, you know?
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, so it just makes it more not worth your time.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: So when you're kind of considering your fight career, because this is your second professional bout, but you've had a very long amateur career, um what are some of your long-term goals?
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Man, I just want to be successful, you know.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: As you know, fighting's bound me a lot.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: Like I literally fought for everything I have.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: When I started fighting, I had nothing.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: Most of my family had nothing.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: And uh even as the amateur, I was doing really good because I'm an exciting fighter to watch.
4:57
SPEAKER_01: So once everybody sees me on the different cars and different fighters and their fans see me, and then every time I was gonna fight, people are like, hey, we want to be there to watch this guy fight.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: For one, we don't know what he's gonna do when he's coming out.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: For two, he's probably gonna start in his corner, run over the other guy's corner, and you know, so uh it helped me build a lot of platforms.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: I've used fighting as a big network for me.
5:19
SPEAKER_01: And guess what?
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Even big COs and companies, you know what people love?
5:22
SPEAKER_01: For some reason, everybody loves fighting, you know.
5:25
SPEAKER_01: So it's just uh I use it as a platform to network and everything.
5:32
SPEAKER_01: And I do, I I used to love it so much.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: I did used to like dream big in it, but for me, it's just a stepping stone to get to where I'm gonna be next.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: And I've been more excited the closer we got to fight week now.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: But when I first started, when I got on the treadmill, I'm about to run three to five miles, I'm like, yeah, uh, dynasty.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: Fuck this.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: I was just uh at lunch eating and drinking, tequila and hanging out, you know, and uh now I'm uh drinking water, not running every day.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: And I I like it, you know, because it brings back that, but my heart's not in it like that no more, you know?
6:06
SPEAKER_01: Right.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: So it's just I love to do it.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: And some of my teammates have come from absolutely nothing too.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: But some of these guys, if it doesn't work, then what?
6:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, people don't understand that.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: Like people buy a ticket, you know, no matter if they bought a$35 ticket, a$100 ticket, whatever, they go there, they don't understand the type of support that they're doing for that person.
6:27
SPEAKER_01: They that's just one night for them, and what, a couple hours of work that they're paying for the ticket for that kid or man or whoever in there, that guy just trained probably three months just to get to right there every single day.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then missed out on his family, missed out on work, you know, with his losing money and maybe other opportunities.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: Hey, guess what?
6:46
SPEAKER_01: Your friends are at the bar drinking, oh, come hang out.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: No, I can't.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: Why?
6:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, because well, I'm tired from the gym.
6:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be tempted by like for me, though, I can go out and see everybody, and they're like, Yeah, shot, shot, shot.
6:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, no, water.
6:57
SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll take a shot of water, right?
6:59
SPEAKER_01: What's up?
7:00
SPEAKER_01: They're like, I just got that energy.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: Some people are like, Are you drunk?
7:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, water.
7:04
SPEAKER_01: I drank a gallon and a half of water today, homeboy.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: Fought three people in the gym, like, park space.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm here with you guys.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, so it's just it's a lot to it.
7:13
SPEAKER_00: I love hearing all of that because you just spelled out a lot of what the fighter's motivation is.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: So, speaking of motivation, who are some of the people that influenced you and motivated you throughout the course of your career?
7:27
SPEAKER_01: A lot of it's been uh like my son James Thor, he uh he always loved it.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: He had a superhero dad, literally, from he was a little kid.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: So, and now he's 15 and he is one of the main reasons I took this fight.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, Dad, you knew the fight, you need to fight.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't need to do nothing.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: You want me to fight?
7:45
SPEAKER_01: I don't need to fight.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: I can sit here, you know.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Guess what we got?
7:48
SPEAKER_01: Because fighting, I took one of my last, you know, money from the fight I made.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: I bought a tow truck, flatbed, right?
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Knockout towing.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: What's up, everybody?
7:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, all the tow companies in town was like, let me tell you, you should do repost because the last person I want to see hooked up my car is you.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: You see somebody come back and telling you they're gonna take their car back?
8:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: So, and that's grown, you know, it's been open for a year.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: I've I've got two current run of trucks, but I've had four trucks in a year, you know.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: I bought a pizza shop, I got, you know, IT company.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: My it's actually gonna be the captain software solutions Red Corner, you know?
8:23
SPEAKER_01: So that's huge.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: And I involved in there because they know, like, hey, Wayne will sell out the whole floor.
8:29
SPEAKER_01: Like, the floor's been pretty much sold out.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what Henry was telling me.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Like a month ago, you know?
8:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: And uh in the card actually started laying.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: I got on the card late, you know?
8:39
unknown: Right.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: So it's just like, you know, those type of things.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: But then I had Joe Spinceria, you know, that's who really got me into it, and it was like, kid, you gotta fight.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: I was a little kid, you know, duking it up with grown men and stuff.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: And uh, he's like, hey, some of those guys you just fought with spiders, dude, and you uh got the better half of it.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, you need to fight.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: So just stuff like that, just to all my like friends, you know, that don't see the bigger side of life sometimes, and my family and stuff like that.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: That like, guess what?
9:09
SPEAKER_01: This is like a reunion here.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, people are gonna find out.
9:13
SPEAKER_01: I just broke my own ticket sale record, you know.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: So it's just like it motivates me because I absolutely kind of don't want it.
9:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, I want to fight, but I don't want to put in the work it takes to fight because it's a lot of work.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: Not that I'm lazy, I just know I'm not gonna come in to do something half-assed.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: So I've been working my ass off.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, I've been getting to it.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: And I went from 235, I dropped down to 219, then I started gaining that healthy weight.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: So it's just a lot.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: Is your son taking any kind of interest in taking it up as a sport?
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: It could be a football star.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: What's he wanna do?
9:48
SPEAKER_01: Get punched in the face.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
9:50
SPEAKER_01: But he's been in the gym.
9:52
SPEAKER_01: He came in Yeah, he came in the gym in a car seat, you know?
9:56
SPEAKER_01: And he just adapted to it.
9:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, his mom when he was like five, six years old, she didn't want him to wrestle.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: Why put him in this wrestling tournament just from being at the gym with me?
10:06
SPEAKER_01: And he won the whole tournament, you know.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Then guess what?
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Of course he's gonna find out.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, he's just off watching, sprawling, everything, you know.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Now he's 15, he's really he's pretty good at jujitsu.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: He goes to open mat.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: And I absolutely didn't agree with it.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: So I told him, no, you know?
10:22
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: You're playing football, homeboy.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, you're good at football, you're at the West Side, you're at the number one football school, you'll be great, you know.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I don't want to play football.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: I want to be an MMA fighter.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, like, why would you want to be an MMA fighter?
10:37
SPEAKER_01: Fighting's a broke person sport, not very many percent of people make it, you know?
10:42
SPEAKER_01: So uh it kind of pissed me off, but you know, Terrence got on me for that.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's not his dream, Wayne.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's your dream, right?
10:51
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, his son's kind of short.
10:52
SPEAKER_01: He told him he couldn't play basketball.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, all right, well, tell Lil' T, then he can play basketball then.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's not his dream to be a wrestler, Terrence.
10:59
SPEAKER_01: That's your dream, you know?
11:01
SPEAKER_01: So just like that.
11:02
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I like it, but it's just a hard sport.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: So I didn't let him, you know.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: Danny and them, of course, they got my respect.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: They can do whatever they want, you know, with him.
11:10
SPEAKER_01: But he started going to open Matt by himself on Sundays and all that.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, come with me, come with me.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: No.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody's already figuring out you're my son.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: Now they're giving you a little bit of a special treatment, but get it in rough.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: Guess how it was when I started in the gym?
11:26
SPEAKER_01: It was this ghetto kid, you know?
11:28
SPEAKER_01: They all tried to stop me from everybody, from Houston to Anthony Smith to Ryan Jensen.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: You know, I got to put in a tank with a bunch of sharks to start.
11:37
SPEAKER_01: So it's just like that, you know.
11:38
SPEAKER_01: You gotta just build that for yourself.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: So if he does decide to pursue it, let's say it's three, four years down the line, do you see yourself reverting from dad into coach?
11:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, I hope that my companies are do so well that I can pay him not to fight.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: One time fight, one time sponsor.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: You know what he wants?
12:00
SPEAKER_01: He wants LeBron James and James Jr.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: He wants to me to fight for two more years so we can have B on a card, I can be the main event, he can have his first fight.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what he wants.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: That would be pretty remarkable though.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks for having my back.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Two more years of running, you know, and all that.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, I know I look at me now on one of those announcers.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: They're like, geez, Wayne, I hope he doesn't wait another three years to do another fight.
12:30
SPEAKER_01: And I and at the time, I'm like, of course I wouldn't.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: Here's two and a half years.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: I know, dude.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: Whenever you think about things in in cut terms of your kids, you're like, you're like, shit off.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Three years is a long time away, and then that three years comes and goes, and you're like, where the hell did that time go, dude?
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just uh man, that's what makes you realize is the kids.
12:53
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Like bringing them into the car seat, and now he's in the gym, he's as big as me, and he's learning jujitsu moves and all that, and all my other kids are in the gym too.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: Last night at sparring, I had my three youngest kids, and they just they love it.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: Like they really do love it.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: Then they go put to work in with me, and they see it, they they miss out on time too, you know, with me.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: But I get them in there as much as I can, and then they're like, oh, all this works up.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: There's like some big celebration thing.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: So all these people, everybody wanna see us, everybody's so happy.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Then dad comes out, they all go crazy.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: Dad wins, we get in a K take a picture with him and gets in home, then we go have fun for you know a week or go, you know.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, now dad will spoil us with stuff because the time lists.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: So I I do gotta say there is something to kids learning discipline and work ethic by getting themselves into a gym, for sure.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean sports in general, you know.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: But that's a huge one.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, and that's for today's time.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, now it's 2025.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: We don't want to talk.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: My kids are 2020 proof, alright?
13:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you send your kid to school and he's not a little badass kid and all that and everything, guess what's gonna happen?
14:05
SPEAKER_01: If they put their hands on my kid and my kid, they're gonna get a championship belt from me when they get home.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: Good job.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: You won.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Don't don't start it, but definitely don't get bullied, you know.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: Kids are kids are not kids like that you know more, you know.
14:19
SPEAKER_01: Kids are bad as shit.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: So uh, yeah, my kids definitely know that.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: My little daughters can throw one-one twos and hooks and uppercuts.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Like, and people are like, um, are you trying to have them box?
14:30
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm just showing them to protect their self.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: So both both my kids, well, so I've got four kids, man.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: I got two twin stepdaughters, and I got another and two bio kids.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: So I've got three girls that are all the same age.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: They're all graduating high school this year, and then I have a 15-year-old son too, just like you.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: He plays football for Creighton Prep.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: And uh, so my daughter, she started martial arts after my son, and she kind of got forced into it.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: Like within a year, dude, she was killing everybody, and she wants nothing to fucking do with it.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: She wants nothing to, but she's just naturally talented, and it's like she's got the reach, she's got oh man, it's crazy how that happens sometimes.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: It is.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: I I mean I enjoy it, you know, but uh they do gymnastics and stuff, and that's nothing.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: I had two boys first, so the boys can protect him, and both the girls are five years old, you know, so they got built-in best friends, which I absolutely love too, you know.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: So it's an amazing thing with the kids, man.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: That's what really uh done a lot of this for me.
15:34
SPEAKER_01: If it wasn't for this, you know, if it wasn't for my kids, I'd who knows, you know, I'd just be fighting everywhere and anywhere.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I tell you what, though, that's that's great motivation because I know having kids absolutely changed my life and make me it made me a much better man for sure.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: Let's get into the weeds on this fight you have coming up.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: January 17th at Liberty First Credit Union Arena.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Why can't it just have stayed the Ralston Arena?
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I can't get that out.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: I cannot get that out.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: You're just telling me the Ralston Arena.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: For Dynasty Combat Sports New Year's knockouts, I will be sitting cage side calling the fight for pay-per-view.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: What can you tell us about your opponent and kind of what to expect that night?
16:17
SPEAKER_01: Man, for me, I just I think it's gonna be a fun fight.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: I can see it.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to kind of predict what he's gonna do, you know.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: My coach is like, you know, we know he throws bombs, you know, and he he actually is a pretty fun fighter to watch himself because he just like I watch himself when he throws three right hands in a row.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, let's try that.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh three right hands of me, and I'm gonna throw four right hands.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna slug fest, okay?
16:41
SPEAKER_01: But with my coach is saying, you know, like just outbox him, you know.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: Of course, he's gonna have uh the weight advantage on me because he's probably gonna come in at 265.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: And you know, not that I've been I've been in the gym.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: We got a kid in there that you know that's about six foot four, and he's 270, you know.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: We got some other guys, 260, 260.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, I've just been wrestling and getting rough with them big dudes.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: So, and they're like, man, you're strong.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: How much you weigh?
17:12
SPEAKER_01: 240?
17:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, I'm 220, 225, you know.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm just wow.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: I've never took no protein or no pre-workout or none of that stuff my whole career, nothing at all.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: No extras.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: I just eat healthy food, chicken, rice.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've been on steak.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Casio's been sponsored me.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: Pitch has been sponsored me.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: The new uh salty dog sponsored me, you know, all these places I eat, I just go to lunch and I've just been trying to gain that good healthy weight.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: So uh I'm just I'm ready, man.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm so ready.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: I think anywhere it goes, I'm gonna be ready.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: I do love when fights are interesting, you know, and fun and everything.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: But my coach is like, you know, go in there and just win.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: That's all you is winning.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: Do you have any history whatsoever with your opponent?
17:59
SPEAKER_01: No, you know, I've seen him around and stuff, and I a couple, uh one of my teammates fought him, and then he's fought a couple other guys.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: The guy in Lincoln told me, he's like, Man, that guy's been training really hard, Wayne.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: Because they was like, he's like, Man, I've been training with him and stuff, and all this.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: I said, All right.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, some other people, you know, a couple people was gonna take the fight, then they didn't.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: And Henry narked him out.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Because I was on Henry.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Heavyweight, Henry, he's from Iowa though.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: All right, sign me up, go be a red.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: I like how the Nebraska game went.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: It's over.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Sign me up.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Like you guys got me on the hook, and Pimp was like, Yeah, we know what we was doing, you know.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: So uh I just I don't know, man.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: I just I hope he's you know, the way in and everything, hope it's all respectful and everything.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, like I said, no matter what, if we're gonna get in that cage, you're gonna be locked in there and we're gonna get it on, you know.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna see what you got, and you're definitely gonna find out what I got.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: So I just uh as athletes, let's do it, you know, and give the crowd a show and go from there.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: You see how loved I am in the city.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: Look, look, they're in my window right now.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: Look you're having a poster, alright?
19:09
SPEAKER_01: Leave us alone.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll hit you up.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: I gotta finish the sentences.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: Love you, man.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: Left.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Dude.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: They've been walking up to my truck, dude.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: I can tell people.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've been hearing them knock on the window, bro.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: So how did you how did you build that fan base in Omaha?
19:27
SPEAKER_01: Man, I'm just a straightforward guy, ten toes down.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: If you do good and be good, guess what?
19:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do good and be good.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: But I'm literally favored by God.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, people have no idea.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: When you do bad and do some dumb shit, guess who you're gonna have in your face?
19:42
SPEAKER_01: He Wayne motherfucking Sullivan, right?
19:44
SPEAKER_01: 6'4, 220 pounds, MMA fighter.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: He don't care about his own life.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: You think he cares about yours while you're over here pushing an old lady or hitting some girl or you know, no, but like that, you know.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of people have been like, man, like I bet you over a hundred people just in the last year, but like, Wayne, you saved my life, bro.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, just the things you do, like everything.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, I can go from they can see me turn up and fight four or five guys for being dickheads, or you know, be happy as can be and help an old lady cross the street.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm like a reflection of everything.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: But I believe God really puts me in places all the time.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, people have no idea about a year ago, a uh maybe a little bit under a year, you know, a girl almost hit me head on in my car.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, I got a turbo camaro, and the whole window of the car was bashed or the car was smoking, two flat tires.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: She's doing like 80s sliding all over.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: So I catch up and there's a little kid in there.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: He's not buckled in.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: And I'm on the phone with 911.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: The lady's like, Mr.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: Sullivan, do not approach your car.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: I said, Look, ma'am, there's a little kid in here.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: I gotta go, I gotta get this kid out the car.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: She's like, Wayne, do not hang up this car, do not approach.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: I said, I am sorry, I gotta go.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: I said, I ain't gonna hang up.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: I dropped the phone down.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, I got out.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: I had her kind of blocked.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: She had a reverse one to go.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: I dove in the window.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: So she drugged me about 200 feet backwards.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: And I'm hanging out the window.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get the shifter and trying to shut off the button with the car, but it won't shut off.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: So I get it put in a neutral.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: The little kid goes flying, she slams on the brakes.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's glass everywhere, she's bleeding everywhere, everything.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: So uh then she gets in drive, and I finally kind of yeeted her a little bit, you know, but I had to stop her.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: So then I get it open, I pull her out the car, the little kid was going crazy, but uh, I got him out and see, like I saved him, and they was like, Man, you're a hero, man.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, hey, this is cool.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Just get this kid out of here, I gotta go.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: Cops are all over, my Camaro don't have plates, I'm out like, you know, so just stuff like that, you know.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: God, like, and people were like, I posted on something like to show them like all these cops and all this stuff, and people like, how are you always, always, always in these situations?
21:42
SPEAKER_01: Like, like, I literally think in my head sometimes when something's going on to the left of me, and I'm just like, pay it, don't, don't pay it attention, just forget it, forget it.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: Then it gets worse and worse, and somebody's doing bad, and then so I'm like, Thank you, God.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for putting me here.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: Here goes this.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: So then I'll try to, you know, intervene as anyway.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: I can't bump the You know, like the other person's why they're going a million miles an hour.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm in the video game.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: Sle, you know, like what are you doing?
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's just it's not like I'm just good at it.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I love all that.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: It is not hard to figure out why you are so beloved by the city, man.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: I've only been sitting here wit talking with you for 22 minutes.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I've known you my whole life.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: This is amazing, brother.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Dude.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: It is, man.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's like even over this.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: I've been working, I've been building companies and you know, doing a lot, you know, hanging out in the city, and I'll go away for a while and come back.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: And even this, like, I almost forgot who I was.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, it is so much going on, like so many people.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's like, hey, all these people are reaching out to me because you're not interested, or this, or this, you know.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: Then we got Christopher Wall, you know, my number one fan.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: He is calling everybody.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Henry didn't get the picture to the Rawls and Arena or the Liberty First Credit Mutual, right?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: All right, yeah, the new name, okay?
23:06
SPEAKER_01: And uh he's like, he works there, you know, because they help people with disabilities get, you know, jobs and stuff.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: So he works there.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: He's like, how come you're not on the sign?
23:17
SPEAKER_01: He's calling me about five times a day about this.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: I said, Hey, Chris, I can't, I don't have nothing to do with that, buddy.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, you told me you're fighting and you should be on the sign.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: So he calls the manager.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: Donovan V, he didn't get older, so he went to the Rawls Arena in her office.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Hey, how come my number one fighter Wayne ain't on the billboard?
23:34
SPEAKER_01: And she's like, he called me, he said, it's not even her fault, it's the dynasty's fault.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: So I was calling Henry.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Henry, I'm gonna give him your number.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: You better figure this out.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, so even him, he's been calling everybody, he's been causing an uproar.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: He went to and his t-shirt just got done today, all right?
23:50
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Where's my t-shirt, Wayne?
23:52
SPEAKER_01: He's calling me, he's calling my sponsors, he's you know, he's just like, but just things like that, you know.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: That's my giving back.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: People wonder, like his mom and them asked before, like, what does this do for you, Wayne?
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, well, do you need anything from us?
24:05
SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: The kid just wants to feel normal.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: He's older than me, you know, and he acts like a little kid, but he's just you know, he has things to be bitter about in life, and he knows how some other people are more can do this or that.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: He knows why he can't do things, but he still wakes up happy nine days out of ten, you know.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: Gives it his all.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: So when I do that, you know, I hey that kid, if he wanted to fight, couldn't fight.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: But he loves fighting, it's his favorite thing ever.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: So I take care of him.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: Terrence takes care of him, you know.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: He gets all the shirts and all that stuff.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: So it's just things like that that's God given, you know, God made us like that.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Why do we do it?
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Because we just give back.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: That's actually usually my closing question is what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
24:50
SPEAKER_00: And I think you just summed it up right there, man.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Church, really, though.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: See all this craziness going around, it said in the Bible.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: And it said, What did it say before that in the last days?
25:00
SPEAKER_01: This is what it's gonna be like.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: And it shows, like, and people are realizing this ain't no uh fairy tale book.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, get right by God, you know, make sure you're right.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: And I do, you know, I go to church and all that, and that's what keeps me composed.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine if I didn't go to church?
25:20
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to be one of these other people doing bad, you know?
25:24
SPEAKER_01: The cops would have to gun me down.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Like a couple people ain't gonna stop me, you know.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Like it's just gonna so it's just things like that, you know.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Everybody has to be composed in something.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Divine intervention by Wayne Sullivan.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, man, everybody get excited.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: January 17th at the Ralston Arena, Dynasty Combat Sports, New Year's knockouts with my friend Wayne Sullivan.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: Brother, I appreciate you making the time for doing this podcast.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Means a lot to me.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: The world's a much better place with you in it, my friend.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: By you too, I appreciate it, man.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: So I'll see you guys at the home coming to party up there.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm almost thinking about backing out and just showing up because there's so many people going.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: What's up, guys?
26:12
SPEAKER_01: What are you doing?
26:12
SPEAKER_01: Coming to hang out with you guys.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: You may fight no.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna take a party.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: I'll see you up there, man.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Once again, I'd like to thank my friend Wayne Sullivan for joining me on the podcast today.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: That conversation was a blast.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: I cannot wait for his fight on Friday.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: Liberty First Credit Union Arena used to be called the Ralston Arena, used to be a lot easier to say.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: I digress.
26:38
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26:51
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26:57
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27:04
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27:14
SPEAKER_00: This conversation was a blast.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: There's much more to come.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys for being here.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: It's been caught on the mic with Michael Clark.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm Michael Clark.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Till next time.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.