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Kassia Meador | Embracing the Waves of Sound Healing and Silence in Antarctica · Seen and Heard with Prue Aja

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: To work with sound.
• 0:00
  Speaker 1: It's like working with our true essence because we're vibratory beings in that level.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: So, yes, it can absolutely help to move and reharmonize and pull into balance through bio resonance, because it's like the highest frequency or the strongest frequency will entrain everything around it into that vibration, which is also so important.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: It's like vibes are real, like, oh, this person gives me a good vibe and you feel good around them.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: Their energy is a vibration that you're being resonates with.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Seen and Heard podcast, helping you enhance your connection, evolve your mindset and emerge confidently as your true self, living a life feeling aligned, activated and energized.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I'm your host, pruaja international photographer, motivational speaker and alignment strategist.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: This episode was recorded live in Antarctica on a music, wellness and conservation adventure hosted by Insider Expeditions, where we danced all night to DJs like Diplo Flume and Oliver Tree.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: We went deep inside our minds of secular Sabbath and learned about and explore the world's most precious, powerful and protected land Antarctica.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: If you're the adventurous type like me and live for wild experiences like this, check out the show notes for up and coming trips with Insider Expeditions, where I have also included a very special offer for my listeners.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: Today's guest I had unknowingly crossed paths with in the late 90s on the Australian Longboarding Circuit and now once more at the end of the earth in Antarctica.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: Kassiya Mirdoy is a professional surfer, sound healer and wisdom seeker whose journey has woven the rhythmic dance of riding waves with healing frequencies of sound.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Born and raised in California, kassiya began her path in the late 90s, shaping the world of surfing for women.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: It was during a sound healing meditation session.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: I felt inspired to capture Kassiya on the rooftop of the boat framed by the Antarctica's dramatic mountains, as she played her singing bowls, an ethereal scene that is showcased on the cover photo of this podcast episode and you can see more on my Instagram page.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: Beyond waves, kassiya is a force behind Kassiya's surf brand, offering women's wetsuits and surf wax that embody performance, quality and conscious production solutions.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: Exhale and relax into our discussion as we share our experience in Antarctica and go into a mini breath meditation.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: Enjoy what's that called again.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: Jaw harp.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: I love the jaw harp.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Where's it from?
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: It's Tibetan.
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: When did you get into all this musical, sound and sound healing?
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I first was introduced to vibrational medicine in 2008,.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: Totally by accident, as most things happen, I was out in the desert with some friends on a photo shoot and we finished early and we went over to this space that they were rebuilding and my friend that originally brought us there she's kind of in the art world from like, went to Brown and very like just like one of those brilliant kind of academic type people that love studying structures and you know kind of these different things and she's like I heard about this place called the Integra Tron.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: Let's Go there and it was before it got kind of popular at all.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: So what is it?
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: It's essentially like a structure that was built by an aeronautical engineer back in the 60s.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: His name was George Vantassel.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: He used to work with Howard Hughes and at one point, like the CIA, he was on the wanted list because, you know, in the 60s it was all that craze about spies and all this other stuff.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, he worked in aeronautics and disappeared at one point and came back and essentially said that he was abducted by aliens and that he came back with the blueprints for the Integra Tron and it was a time travel machine, you know, and I think there was a cell regeneration element to it, but he never ended up fully like completing it because he then died he was poisoned.
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: So there is all this interesting conspiracy in and around it, and so it's been out in the desert near a place called Landers for a long time and we rocked up and this gentleman kind of came out and he was a surfer, grew up surfing Topanga, so of course I just started chatting with him and he invited us in and gave us my first sound bath.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, so does he live in it.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: No, so these sisters took over the land because the land, I think, was like in a truss and this was back in 2008.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: He doesn't live there.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: He was just helping to restore it at the time.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Now it's a place that you have to book months out in advance.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: Everything has changed, but this was, like you know, 2008,.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: A long time ago, kind of, before everybody started talking about really sound baths and all this stuff.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: So that's when I got interested in it.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely like transported me.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: It felt a lot like surfing.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Well, doing it in that space as well, it would have transported you Totally.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: I felt like it was like an interesting initiation into it and I've since gone back and we played at the Integra Tron and at one point they were trying to get us to come out from LA and do sound baths all the time and it was just too far, I mean.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: It's like two and a half, three hours from LA, like I wasn't going to go out there all the time and I was traveling a lot at the time surfing professionally.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: So it was not like you know, but it was my first kind of entry into sound and vibrational therapy and it's something that stuck with me.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: And then it kind of led me on a journey.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like disenchanted with the surf world and disenchanted with like just the marketing media aspect and I felt like it just kind of like for me at that point I had been within that world for like 15, 16 years.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: So I just felt like a little kind of burnt out and wanting some new challenges and also just feeling like a lot of like the magic was being lost and the purity of what surfing was for me as like a heart medicine and also a way to interact with like creation in real time and, you know, interact with the natural world in such a pure and authentic way was being kind of like I don't know, just manipulated into a field, commercialized and put a dollar sign on it.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: That's it, yeah.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: And it is like that's what I love about surfing when you're out there, you know it brings that present, you're fully present with nature.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: And that's when you just become clear, like all your worries just disperse and you get that channel of creative consciousness and becoming one with the wave and riding it and feeling it out, and yeah just creating magic with it.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Super stoked, you know, and exactly that it's like so pure and you need nothing.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: It's like the ocean forces you to be present, the ocean forces you to be in your body and I think that also you know, the ocean taught me so much about embodiment and being in my body and being totally aware and receptive to everything that's happening around me, constantly and all the time, that it was such a way to practice single pointed focus, which I think is a very I mean, it is the key element to fully get immersed when you're in like meditation, when you like fully go deep into that space.
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: It's that single pointed focus and having an active mind, being like a young kind of like excited person.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: It was through movement that I first got into flow state of meditation, you know, and I feel like sound and vibrational therapy is like a great way to go there for people as well.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: It helps to kind of quiet that active chatter in the mind.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: I learned Vedic meditation maybe eight years ago and yeah, it's totally changed my life.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: But I am curious with the sound bath and the sound healing.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: What else does it do?
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Because I've kind of made up in my head that it shifts energy through your body and clears you.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: But that's what I've just guessed.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: What would you say?
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: How would you explain what it does?
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like, how do you put words to everything and make it concise?
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: And essentially, you know, from a full quantum mechanics perspective, everything that is around us is vibration.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: You are sound, you are vibration that is actually stopped down into the third dimensional reality that we're experiencing, into solid matter.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: So everything has a frequency, everything has a tone and by working with sound and vibrational therapy, we're able to bring into harmony and balance frequencies that have been dissonant in our field, so dissonant dis-ease, right.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: So when things come out of balance, there's maybe an energy block and maybe that energy block and or energy cysts causes some pain and some swelling.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's emotional, maybe it's physical.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: Like what layer is it?
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: It's like the physical body is the densest form of energy essentially, which is why we can have a, you know, witness and be here, and there's this table we can put a cup of tea on, you know.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: So, to work with sound, it's like working with our true essence, because we're vibratory beings in that level.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: So, yes, it can absolutely help to move and reharmonize and pull into balance through bio resonance, because it's like the highest frequency or the strongest frequency will entrain everything around it into that vibration, which is also so important.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: It's like vibes are real, like, oh, this person gives me a good vibe and you feel good around them.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Their energy is a vibration that you're being resonates with and by coming into resonance and relation, we're actually starting to kind of, like you know, come into cohesion in that way.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting, right, so we can break it down into a scientific perspective and then we can also just like break it down into like what it feels like, like if it's moving stuff in you.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: It's like everything wants to come back into resonance.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Everything, I feel personally, wants to come back into peace and harmony.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: And you know you have a day that everything feels super groovy.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: And then you have a day you get a couple weird phone calls and or interactions and maybe you hit all the red lights and spill coffee on your shirt right before a thing and you're kind of like fragmented and sometimes really just going back to that piece and whether it's grounding in the earth, using your own voice to hum and soothe yourself, self soothing.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: That's huge actually, when I was going through all this anxiety this year.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: I was keeping up my meditation practice, for one morning I just felt the need to really hum and make a vibration in my body and it just shifted.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: So much stuff, instead of just being in silence and in that dense denseness like creating sound, like you can even I can feel it now as I'm talking you know creates a vibration in your body and I guess that's where positive affirmations can shift your body to absolutely.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why, like mantras, you, you know, you said you were interested in Vedic meditation and they give you a mantra and that mantra has a frequency with it, because actually every sound has a frequency, right.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: So, like our voices, our own sounds are the original healing tool.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Just by speaking, you know, as I speak, so it is.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: You know, abhacadabra, that's what that truly means.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: So by actually breaking it into these mantras and or phrases, there's a certain tone, there's a certain energy and or frequency that has been associated with that mantra or that phrase or whatever you know you work with, yeah, for so long that you're actually calling into that and that's actually what, and then other people who have worked with it for so long.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: It's actually energizing more so that mantra.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: So you notice too, even words, words are vibration.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: So if words have been associated with a certain thought, form and or feeling cultural, you know, energetic, like, whatever kind of it has been associated, it has its own tone with it.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: And how do, like we re-tone language, because language has been associated with so many things and sometimes language divides, you know.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I can go like off on kind of that stuff and maybe we might lose people a little bit.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: But, like you know, it's all, it's all sound, you know, it all goes back to like you know, and that's why you know ohm, you know the ohm, like that is the, the sound of God, the word of God, you know, and it is a frequency and it is a sound.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I recently learnt that when you do ohm, that it goes from here to your throat and then that and is it out of your mind?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: like you kind of you move it up your body instead of just going ohm and just from here it actually yeah and and in, in and out, like in evolution and evolution, like you know, like from your heart space out and up and from that kind of solar center of our universe, the sun, back and down into our heart space and from our heart space into that core of the earth and from the core of the earth back into our heart space.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: You know, can you demonstrate that?
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so we can sit here and ohm together.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Let's do three ohms, so like feeling into our heart, and as we feel into our heart, we can ohm and as we ohm, feeling that frequency move through your body from your heart space up into your throat, up into the third eye, up into your crown and out the top of your head into that solar star, that galactic solar logo that is the sun Inhaling.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Ohm.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And then breathing it back down from the sun into our hearts.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Ohm.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And then from our heart space down into the core of the earth through our solar sacral root earth star, and then in through the earth crust, visualizing it fully and completely aligning and connecting with the core of the earth.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Ohm, ohm.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: And then from the core of the earth, breathing it back up through every layer, every piece of crust, all the magma, up through our earth, star chakra, our root, sacral, solar, and back into our heart space.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Ohm.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And then, lastly, let's extend it out to encircle our physical body, our electromagnetic, our auric, our aetheric bodies, into our subtler bodies, out and around us, kind of greeting and meeting everything around us, greeting the wind and the water and just as an act of gratitude and thanks, just extending out into the universe from our body.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And as we extend it out to meet the earth and all the elements, we're also feeling it shining back towards us.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Ohm, ohm, ohm, there's an ice pack, yeah it's so nice, so it's interesting, it's the most grounded, I feel, all day.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I woke up and was so scattered and I think it's from dancing to 5 am and because we are sitting here on an incredible boat in the most incredible place landscape, majestic, untouched land in the world and so privileged to be here.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: What a privilege and an honor it is to have step foot on the seventh continent today, Actually put our feet on that continent and been, you know, some of the very few people who have ever landed upon those shores.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: What like a pure place to be.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And this ship has been taking us through truly like uncharted territory.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And I heard kind of number from one of the guides and I don't know how accurate or true it is, but they were like yeah, there's probably outside of researchers and scientists and then people obviously that came here probably by accident, got lost at sea at some point, and or maybe some of the early explorers.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: There has only been 150,000 around people to have ever stepped foot on the seventh continent outside of science and research.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So what a gift it is to come here and I feel like a mix of like a lot of gratitude and then also in my space like fear coming up for having too many people go visit it and also noticing it's important to go see it and there's really not much untouched land on the planet and this is a very sacred space because it is so pure and kind of feeling.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I've felt like wow, it's such a gift to be here and I've also felt conflicted by even being here.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I felt what's like also conflicted Wow, what a gift and also like feeling the weight humans have put everywhere.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm really really so grateful for this crew and how they've been teaching us about the AYATO regulations and guidelines and and how, by like learning about these guidelines and regulations, we can kind of also help to like communicate that, and I think it's really awesome that you know people from other countries in the world have all kind of collaborated around Antarctica and protecting it, and I also feel very fortunate and grateful to be here to be able to like actually experience this place.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that the practice they've put in place here to protect the land to be on more land around the world.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: It would be really.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is important and I think that's the thing, and just being present and aware, like going back to what you said, this is the most grounded you felt all day.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think we all kind of come from busy lives and busy things and sometimes when we're in that busyness, we're focused on what's in front of us and we're not like as much expanding our awareness around us.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And I think it's really important to have a wide view and have like awareness around everything around us and how, like every step we take every which way in our life whether it's a step towards communicating or a step towards putting something out there in the world or just like walking on the street how, like every step we, every footprint we make, has a ripple effect in one way or another.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So I feel like being here, you witness it even more and you're like, oh yeah, so that's something I'm definitely gonna take back with me even more.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: We're even learning about a crumb.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: A crumb coming out of someone's pocket, landing on the ice, a penguin eating it, and then them associating humans coming on to land with food, and just how that tiny crumb can just ruin the biodiversity.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Is that what the word is?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it definitely starts to like kind of mess with, like the structure and the fabric of the ecosystem and what holds it together.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden it's like think about, like you know, sugar.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's like people want sugar rather than like nutrients, you know.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So like that crumb could like affect its palate, you know, and it could have the ripple effect or what you're saying like associating.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So it's like all of a sudden, they're waiting for us to come ashore rather than going and hunting for food.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they turn into pigeons.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: They associate people coming down the beach eating their fish and chips and they're like oh, the seagulls and they fly over and they're like, oh, these people, they're gonna give me chips.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So if that happened and where people are doing a walk and then the penguins all start running over, going, oh, there might be more crumbs of these guys.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That would be awful.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: That would be awful, and we've seen it happen time and time again across the whole world over.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, so that's, yeah, that's an interesting thing, and just being here with this much space around and how pure the land is, you're just like wow, and how wild and raw it is.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: What would you say is being your or moment?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Gosh, you know so many all moments.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Really it's hard to say one.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: That said, I feel like yesterday morning, right after kind of like the yoga, or maybe it was in the middle of yoga and we went outside and that kind of like cloud, rainbow, the rainbow cloud like it was like that iridescent rainbow and then having our actual reflections and the glassy water and how it created like we can see our own auras, essentially.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, wow, like this is like an angelic realm, like the, the air feels really fine and everything feels really pure and crisp and it felt like we had drifted like my like actual sensory feeling was that we had like drifted into this kind of like seaship of, like clouds and we were just in this different space, like almost like a different dimension, where we can see our own auras.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It was crazy that's been my all moment as well because there was this fog over the water and then there was mountains and there was more fog and the way the ship moves it kind of feels like it moves in slow motion and it felt like we were a spaceship going through here, this other dimension, like literally floating through it, with these gigantic mountains and such an expansive space and something you never had seen before.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It just was incredibly hard opening.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Before that in the tea ceremony I had a.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I had a nice cry like a purge I could.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Quite a few emotions were coming up.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I was actually.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I got a message from someone just before it that triggered me and made me really angry and so I was angry at them and being reactive in my head and from the gestalt therapy the night before questioning am I okay or how do I feel?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and then how do I really feel?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And getting underneath what that was.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So I did a lot of processing in that tea ceremony and I realized it was actually remnants from what I was clearing out in the last year and it was just this stuff that was still there and releasing that brought me back.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Well, releasing that and crying and then looking out at the expansive space and just going, bringing it back to the present and going this is all I need and have right now and I've been taken care of and that can, it will.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Everything is fine it's all okay, it was that morning it's cool.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It's like there's always those moments and I think it's so important.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: It's like when you do big trips or or you have something profound come up, it's like it's like holding space for all of it, and I think there's always those moments of the breakdown to break through and there has to be like a crack for the light to come in and like, okay, where is that moment that we do kind of crack open a little bit so we can actually shed another layer?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Crack open to shed another layer.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: It's like this kind of like that's it more and more, you know, and just when we think we're clearing more, and just when we feel like something is done more and more and more, just getting to the finer and finer and finer essences of I'm glad it was.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: It was only like for an hour, not a week or a month, but it was a nice process and released to have in this place with these people mm-hmm and like the best music in the world, so healing modalities in the world.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: It's just magic.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It's so magical, like I'm so grateful for the whole crew that like all worked so hard to make this happen and I got brought on to this trip with the secular Sabbath community and they're good friends with like Diplo and like it's such a nice contrast and I feel like it's really like you know, with all the music talent that is on this ship it's, and then also like all the wellness offerings to you know, secular Sabbath it's.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It's like a beautiful contrast of all things, like it's and we're like in the South Pole and I feel like it's like perfect polarized elements of like what you need to move through stuff.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: In that way it's such a perfect balance of like all night music and dancing and like full, you know expression and then also this like softer, subtler expression with like tea ceremonies and gestalt and you know sound bass and ambient music and excursions to the land, to ground at all, and then coming back to the boat and like doing a drawing workshop with Whitney and you know dropping into like deeper layers and then having that time to pause and so on.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I mean honestly like it's such a journey and it's only been a few days and it's like what a radical crew of humans to be experiencing this with.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, so incredible, yeah, and then going on excursion, the only thing is there's actually this is for the listeners like there's no time to sleep.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone's had hardly any sleep because there's so much fun to have.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It's non-stop.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: We're up all night.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's like I went to bed at three last night and woke up this morning at like 6.30 to go due to ceremony and sound bath, but they were cleaning up because I don't think like the dance party stopped until five this morning, so like it was like this was the first morning we haven't done tea or yoga or a sound bath first thing in the morning.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It was a big party night last night.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah but it's so beautiful because everybody's showing up to it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And then you know, the minute the announcement came on that it was time to go to land, like wow, everybody got their stuff and, you know, whacked a bit of coffee in their eyeballs probably and down their throat and got out.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You know I was lying in bed for only three hours sleep and was thinking you know what I might just give in.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: A mere sleep's more important now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But then you remember where you are and you're like, no, there's actually no time to sleep, and you go and we just climbed a mountain this morning, or maybe it was.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was a hill.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: It felt like a mountain though, because, too, it's like going through the snow and just like the elevation, like.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I feel like this place feels denser, like I feel like the weight is different here, like it's heavier the air.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: That's been my experience, interesting yeah well, a couple of people, and it sounds a bit silly and I kind of laughed with them about it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They're like we're at a high altitude, aren't we?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, we're actually at sea level so, but it's maybe has that feeling of being at a high altitude because of the thin air, maybe it's a latitude thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I mean we're literally in the Arctic Circle and there is different polarities.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Like I've been to the North Pole before, Heavy and yeah, like a couple years ago actually, with Andrew the yoga teacher that's here with Secular Sabbath and like and yeah, it's interesting we had been there before and I felt like I felt lighter there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Interesting and I feel like.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I feel heavier here and I don't know what that is.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's interesting.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Also, when we have to go to shore, we go with so much gear on, so maybe it's also that you know like we're just wearing so much stuff.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there is, there is definitely something that feels different.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: What's another contrast between the North Pole and the South Pole?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you found I mean the equator right, oh, between.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I guess I was thinking like what's the difference between the North and the South Pole?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: That I feel a different polar shift and like when I'm on the equator I just feel like nothing.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like kind of that balance of all things.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: But I think another contrast between the North and the South Pole is it has the northern lights, in the North Pole it has the aurora borealis and it's not down here.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So that's really interesting.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It's all right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's really interesting.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they have the australis borealis here.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: So I want to see it, but I think it just never gets dark enough.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Winter, that's one it is.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so is that kind of like the aurora, like it's the same, it's the same?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting because, like somebody was saying, that doesn't happen here.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't but maybe it's just because when we're here, yeah because we come in summer and I'm wondering if it's actually too cold in winter.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: To even experience it and go see it, yeah, which is why you don't see it, and also there's nobody here but scientists.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to think Well interesting.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Might wrap it up here.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Cool Is there anything else you wanted to share?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm just like so grateful to be here and it's just so awesome and you know, I'm happy to share sound and just happy to share this experience, you know.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that's the thing, because we have got the privilege to be here and experience this.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's I want to be able to share you know everyone else's experience but share it with the outside world so they can understand what it's like.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I had no expectations, which was great as well, but so curious about what it's actually like and I think, having these discussions, you get different perspectives.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: What different people take away from it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm taking so much away from this and I feel like on the whatever 20 something hours of flights it'll take to get home, it's like I always feel like whenever I go somewhere, and especially somewhere this far out and this powerful and this special and this unique and like I mean literally like I feel like we're in a different universe.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That's how it feels for me, like somebody's, like it's like the moon.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, totally, it's like the moon, you know.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: It's like beyond the map.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It's like we're like you can't really see it unless you're here, because the map you can't like look at it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: So, beyond the map, and like You're, open off the edge of the map.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like how do we even begin to process all that we're experiencing?
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: It's going to take a while to unpack.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So it's probably good having our long flights home to integrate.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I feel.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like in that space it's going to be like whoa, going back to like movement and different things, and then coming out here like I mean, just being here makes me want to spend time like just on the land, like in silence here, like it makes me want to come back.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I wonder if we could set that intention of one of our landings, that we actually just have a moment like two minutes silence, at least Totally, or a silent walk, a meditation walk.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, like on this next one, I really want to invite people to do it because there's like that's something that I would just love you know, because, yeah, totally.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll coordinate one of the zodiacs to be a silent zodiac.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Totally, you know.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And then also like maybe inviting other people, like, hey, why don't we take this excursion and be in silence and be in full like experience, and like let us have a silent meditation, walking experience.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Do this like really special land, because I feel like there's so much subtlety that can't get through with all the noise, and that would be really, really special.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah let's do it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 36:39
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• 36:39
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